Ep 624 - Big Boy (feat. Nate Marshall)

Summary

Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast Ep 624 – “Big Boy” (feat. Nate Marshall) – July 9, 2026

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Overview

This episode brings together hosts Matt McCusker and Shane Gillis, joined by comedian Nate Marshall (plus Lamar), for a freewheeling, highly irreverent chat spanning summer pool disasters, ayahuasca skepticism, generational drug stories, America’s obsession with minor league sports, heatwaves, the “Big Boy” train event, and collapse-ready electrical grids. The crew’s signature blend of off-color humor, personal anecdotes, and social commentary keeps the episode moving at breakneck pace—complete with plenty of quotable moments and bizarre tangents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Poolside Disasters & Men’s Swimwear Anxiety

• The guys open with gripes about male bathing suits, specifically the dilemma of underwear in swim trunks (00:00–03:00).
  • Matt’s sunburn and the horror of vacuum-sealed swim trunks: “You don’t want the vacuum sealed in the pool. It’s just awkward.” (Paul/Matt, 01:01)
• Discussions on “presenting” in public and the universal concern over awkward bulges when exiting the pool.
• Extended riffing about Europeans in Speedos and the “art of penis presentation” (03:30–05:00).
  • “That’s probably stuff you learn in gay school. How to lay out, how to just put it up properly. We never learned. Our dads never taught us.” (Paul/Matt, 04:49)

2. Learning to Swim & Swimming Culture

• Matt recounts taking post-kid swimming lessons and the difficulty of their proper technique (05:07–06:56).
  • “Swimming properly is so hard.” (Paul/Matt, 05:19)
• The comic subculture of Swim Meets, fashion, and the freestyle stroke.
  • “Swimming culture is so outlandish with Speedos.” (Paul/Matt, 05:35)

3. Drug Safety and Ayahuasca Skepticism

• The group discusses the recent death of fitness influencer Connor Murphy (Thailand, possible meth/ayahuasca overdose, 08:26–10:02).
  • “Thailand meth seems terrifying.” (Nathan, 09:19)
• Deep dive into ayahuasca culture, its popularity among Westerners, and the possible scam element in “shaman” circles (10:02–12:49).
  • “The ayahuascaro shaman types… that is the easiest hustle to pull off.” (Paul/Matt, 10:40)
• Agreement that “50 trips” is probably a sign of cultishness, not enlightenment.
• Paul and Nate share personal psychedelic experiences, including “changa” (a smokable DMT blend, 16:10–17:53).
  • “My older brother’s here. I’m totally cool.” (Matt, 16:32)
• Contemplating psychedelics for end-of-life care and dementia.
  • “It’s going to be so great to approach death with the ability to be like... Time for a five grammer.” (Paul/Matt, 18:46)
  • Nate considers microdosing his Deadhead dad as an alternative therapy for old age (25:06–27:10)

4. Family, Maintenance, and the Dad Vibe

• Discussions on aging parents, generational attitudes, and the ultimate dad move: cutting your own grass and running Tonka toys (28:00–29:25).
• “My dad’s a big fisherman… he loves being on the smallest boat in the water.” (Paul/Matt, 28:31)
• Stories of family mowing accidents: “My grandpa died on a lawnmower… It’s my bloodline.” (Lamar, 30:44)

5. Phone Addiction, Boredom, and Pleasure

• Matt resolves to make his mind “better than the phone scroll” and celebrates boredom as creativity fuel (31:14–33:15).
  • “My screen time’s down to, like, two hours.” (Paul/Matt, 32:05)
  • “Boredom is good for your brain... You're thinking about things. You're getting better empathy.” (Nathan, 32:05)
• Scrolling is likened to watching a constant series of commercials (34:13–34:42).
  • “You're watching a very sophisticated commercial.” (Paul/Matt, 34:43)
• Advocacy for books, walks, musical instruments, and puzzles as positive alternatives to mindless scrolling (35:32–36:22).

6. Guns, Cops, and Power

• Nathan contemplates shooting as a hobby, laments expensive ammo (36:22–37:02).
• Fascination and critique of cop culture; debates about police bias and how badge “donor” stickers can garner favor (37:17–38:36).
• Severe cynicism toward bad policing: “They get career ambitious… They’re not upholding their true calling.” (Paul/Matt, 41:02)
• Comedic fantasy about being a “justice cop” and the classic cop-nurse romance trope (41:20–41:52).

7. Mealtime Justice & Social Bias

• Wild stat: Judges are reliably harsher close to lunch—hunger = tougher sentences (43:57–44:29).
  • “If you catch [the judge] right after lunch, you have a better shot.” (Nathan, 44:24)
• Gendered jokes about “lady judges” on their period (44:53–45:40).

8. Petty Politics at the Parade

• Matt vents about politicians hijacking community events for video ops (46:40–49:37).
  • “They use the crowd almost as like, a look what I'm up to here.” (Paul/Matt, 48:35)
• Comic suggestions for politicians to “ruffle a kid’s head” instead of making speeches.

9. Cringe at the Farmer’s Market

• Matt’s tale of enduring a heatwave and a fellow shopper moaning behind him (51:44–53:06).

10. The “Big Boy” Train Fiasco

• Legendary segment: Hundreds collapse from heatstroke just to view the antique “Big Boy” train in PA (53:24–55:18).
  • “A thousand autistic people… Over a hundred of them went down just to see the Big Boy.” (Nathan, 53:51)
  • “Imagine dying like that... I would walk away if my kid passed out waiting for Big Boy.” (Paul/Matt, 55:02)

11. Heatwaves, AC, and The Billionaire Divide

• Critique of New York’s “cool socialism”: Mandating max AC temps for the power grid, while Taylor Swift’s wedding probably stayed frosty (56:48–59:19).
  • “Give me 72 degrees or give me blackout.” (Paul/Matt, 57:37)
  • “You're never gonna get anywhere by worrying about what billionaires do with their air conditioning.” (Paul/Matt, 59:19)

12. Energy Grids & Data Center Takeover

• Deep-dive into how data centers are spiking local electric bills and even causing utilities to abandon towns (60:43–66:07).
  • “You're just gonna give all your electrical to the company?” (Paul/Matt, 62:11)
  • “It's on the electric companies and the data centers are lying about how much electricity they're going to use.” (Lamar, 61:08)

13. Creepy Tech: WiFi as X-Ray Vision

• LaMear shares that WiFi signals can be used to “see” inside homes using new surveillance tech (64:41–65:05).

14. World Cup “Minor League” America

• Aftermath of the US-hosted World Cup, shenanigans with Trump and FIFA, and wry admissions America’s soccer effort is a “minor league” phenomenon (68:00–69:28).
  • “Hot take. Soccer is a minor league sport.” (Paul/Matt, 68:00)

15. Mid-Atlantic Resilience and Good BBQ

• America’s global image improves as foreigners experience the US—especially its BBQ, ranch, and Philly’s Reading Railroad heritage (70:05–71:10).
  • “Let's stop being haters for a second and be like, this place kind of rocks.” (Paul/Matt, 70:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Summer Wear:
  “You don’t want the vacuum sealed in the pool. It’s just awkward.”
  — Paul/Matt (01:01)

• On Ayahuasca Shamanism:
  “That is the easiest hustle to pull off.”
  — Paul/Matt (10:40)

• On Modern Scrolling:
  “You're watching a very sophisticated commercial.”
  — Paul/Matt (34:43)

• On the “Big Boy” Train:
  “A thousand autistic people… Over a hundred of them went down just to see the Big Boy.”
  — Nathan (53:51)

• On Socioeconomic Realities:
  “Stop comparing yourself. It is what it is. You're never going to get anywhere that way.”
  — Paul/Matt (59:19)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Pool/Bathing Suit Hijinks: 00:00–05:00
• Swimming Lessons & Swim Culture: 05:07–07:15
• Psychedelics & Ayahuasca: 08:26–19:29
• Deadhead Dads & Family Drug Stories: 25:06–27:10
• Phone/Scroll Detox: 31:14–36:22
• Cops, Bias, and Systemic Skepticism: 37:17–42:16
• Justice, Judges & Snickers: 43:57–45:40
• Small Town Politics Rant: 46:40–49:37
• Farmer’s Market Moaning: 51:44–53:06
• Big Boy Train Fiasco: 53:24–55:18
• Heatwaves, Energy, & Inequality: 56:48–66:07
• WiFi Surveillance: 64:41–65:05
• World Cup & America’s Image: 68:00–69:28

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Tone & Style

The tone is loose, raucous, and banter-filled with sharp asides, affectionate mockery, and frequent swerves from serious insight to provocatively dumb jokes—true to the podcast’s reputation. The hosts play with the line between keen cultural observation and gleeful irreverence, maintaining camaraderie and energy throughout.

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For New Listeners

This episode is an ideal encapsulation of Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast: wild tangents, male vulnerability masked in humor, real and imagined grievances, and comedy’s unique ability to take on (and take apart) everything from psychedelic spirituality to small-town politics and America’s quirkiest spectacles. Skipping the ads, you’ll get all the gags, inside stories, trenchant asides—and a masterclass in keeping serious topics unserious.

Transcript

[Nathan]

Wow. Wow. Wes.

[Paul]

Hey, we're fired up, dude.

[Nathan]

We're here.

[Paul]

We're here. We're here again every week, dude. We're here. We're rocking. I'm not trying to be purposely obscured in the plants. This is just how the seats going.

[Nathan]

You do got the Mary house look going though. You got the safari look.

[Paul]

I do look like jungle gym right now. The wild thornberries I got cooked in the sun yesterday. So the bucket. I just brought the bucket. I am wearing it inside just to reflect how absolutely sunburned I was. I got. I just got destroyed in the sun. And then I was chilling at the house. Just dead. I. I had just eaten, crushed my fiber like drink, poured the fiber powder in the drink and dude, I. I'm like still in a. A bathing suit with wet underwear because you know the bathing suit doesn't have ever. Like why do you have an underwear? So they didn't have like a net and it's just. It's so thin.

[Nathan]

And you were around.

[Paul]

You were on children right around children. You can't have. You can't have the Tina getting vacuum shield. Even.

[Nathan]

Even if life changing moment.

[Paul]

It's just weird. Even if I was like presenting that day, because it is. We're in the Austin heat. This is the best flac weather ever. I could even been presenting. I still don't. You don't want the diff flaccid. You don't want the vacuum sealed in the pool. It's just awkward.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And then you got to watch too. If I get out of the water, I'll try to like un vacuum seal. But then you're just opening your waistband. You can be flashing dong inadvertently.

[Nathan]

Is the. I don't know. I was about to complain about a whole different thing. I got like, I get the same problem when I wear the netted jones, but my like soft water dick gets mashed into the front of it. But it looks like every time. I don't know if it's just the way my dick wrestle my balls. It looks like I have the tiniest boner. And it's just. I get out the pool every time.

[Paul]

Like, oh, yeah, it sucks, dude. It sucks. You got to do it. You got to do a quick like. And then it's like, yeah, you in the head game of like, is this person wondering why I'm adjusting?

[Nathan]

Yeah, I don't want to look.

[Paul]

Dick behavior. Is it little dick behavior? I don't know. I don't. I don't know what these ladies are thinking.

[Nathan]

And I don't want anybody to think it's weirdo behavior because. Because I feel like I got to do it every time I get out the pool.

[Paul]

I've been trying to let it ride, but I do, because every now and again, it's not as bad as you think.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And that's why I'll keep the boxer briefs on under certain bathing suits that don't have the compression. It's like, they're so thin. If I get vacuum sealed, it's just. Just awkward. Dudes.

[Nathan]

I get nervous to just even check how bad it looks because I feel like once you make eye contact with it. Yeah. If you notice, you're like, well, I got it.

[Paul]

I try to hit it underwater as I'm getting out. I'll try to. Then if you let the water in, it breaks the seal. Water rushes.

[Nathan]

I haven't even thought of that. I don't think about it till I'm out the water.

[Paul]

I know 99 of the times I'm just kind of coming out, but lately I have been like, I'm gonna let it ride. I'm gonna let it ride. We have fucking foreigners here. We got guys in Speedos.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

A lot more. Yeah, yeah. We. There's. There's a dude in Speedos the other day laying on his back, just sunning a hog, and it's just like, bro, do you. Do you? But like, I. I was probably feels nice swimming, being like, girls don't even like that, dude. They don't like that being weird. And I. I was. There's like these two ladies, and I'm like. I was like, they don't like that. That's got to just be.

[Nathan]

I. I gotta ask, actually, because now I need to know if ladies think that's like. Because in my mind it looks so goofy. It's no way. They go, that's hot as hell.

[Paul]

Yeah, it. I honestly though, upon if I had my eye on these guys. They're gay guys. Right away I'm like, oh, duh.

[Nathan]

I was not even worried about late what ladies think.

[Paul]

Weren't even thinking about them. They were probably wondering what I was thinking about. And I was like, I am actively thinking I'm the only guy in this pool thinking about your dong right now.

[Lamar]

But, dude, like, think about it. Like, we see ladies in bikinis and go, ooh, you know?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

Also, Sunny, your dog probably feels Sonic, your dick is probably like, I. I don't really outside of, like, pissing outside during the day. Like, I don't know what sun on my dick feels like.

[Paul]

It's probably nice, but he was. But again, it was still speedo'd up. He didn't have it, like, hanging out, but still.

[Nathan]

That's this much of a leg.

[Paul]

That's true. It was there.

[Nathan]

And it's like a tight layer. It's not like when you're in just your. Your swim trunks was kind of like over you.

[Paul]

Yeah. You're not feeling the race. He was definitely feeling the rays on his dog.

[Nathan]

He.

[Paul]

It's probably what was swelling it up.

[Nathan]

I was about to say it probably makes it. I mean, there's a part of me that thinks it makes it at least a little bigger.

[Paul]

Definitely, dude. Just warm in the sun and there's a guy swimming there with his kids just constantly checking your penis in the pool. He's probably like, what the hell's going on? He's working. It's working. My gay traps working.

[Nathan]

Is that sunbird dude checking out my dick?

[Paul]

It was. It was just. I would. The angle was crazy because he was laying on his back.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So if you're a pool, if you came out of the water, you saw the dudes you just saw. All you saw was dick. You're like, wow, man, what the hell?

[Nathan]

Like, the underside of dick. The worst.

[Paul]

It was. It was like a crazy angle where I was like, bro, did you set this up?

[Nathan]

Yeah. Did you lift. Did you lift it before you laid? It was.

[Paul]

Yeah, he was. Yeah, he definitely propped it. That's just probably stuff you learn in gay school. How to lay out, how to just put it up properly. We never learned. Our dads never taught us how to

[Nathan]

put it up properly. Penmanship and penis presentation. The three Ps.

[Paul]

But, yeah, that was. Yeah, that was the day yesterday. Just floating, swimming, getting absolutely cooked. I learned. I learned about swimming, though. I did learn about. I learned how to swim properly.

[Nathan]

Was it a.

[Paul]

Took lessons after my kid. My kid got done lessons and I. I kind of. I asked. I was like, yeah, you know, everyone gave an old man some technique lessons. Dude, swimming's like. Swimming properly is so hard. Yeah.

[Nathan]

What. What stroke were they teaching you?

[Paul]

Freestyle.

[Nathan]

Okay. Stroke. But.

[Paul]

But no, hey, dude, that's swimming culture. It's like Paul's culture. Can't even be in swimming culture. Swimming culture. So outlandish with Speedos and, dude, it was.

[Nathan]

You be pausing all day.

[Paul]

You'd be paused. You wouldn't even. You can't even function if you're even in a pause mindset. If I brought Dame Dash or somebody to a swim meet, he would. He would have. He'd have to leave. He's saying he could be paused for being there. I was at a swim meet. He's like, Paul's, you know, he's in a full suit, on a podcast. Do whatever the he's up to.

[Nathan]

I hope this isn't a hilariously like, I can't swim question, but what I know what's freestyle? Like, it's just anything.

[Paul]

Freestyle is the classic.

[Nathan]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Paul]

Let me actually get proper form.

[Nathan]

Oh. Hand over hand.

[Paul]

My hands are cupped, whatever that is. But the. That's. Freestyle is hard to do without getting completely gas. You get breaststroke indefinitely.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Because you're coming up. But freestyle, I mean, this is. I don't want to bore people out of their minds, but if you're doing it properly, you need to have a plan. Like, okay, three strokes. Breathe. Because if you're like, stroke, stroke, stroke. Oh, I'm out of air. And you don't even come up for air. You just kind of roll to your side and your mouth breaches and you take in air and you go back down. But if you miss. I was just about to bring water in. You're like. It was. Have a long way to go. That's all. Have a long way to go.

[Nathan]

So you found out you actually can't swim also.

[Paul]

Oh, I could swim. It's a matter of technique. I mean. I mean, I can. I can do a thousand yards in about 27 minutes, which is solidarity between

[Nathan]

the three of us.

[Paul]

No, I hear you. I'm not a particularly great swimmer. If you want to bond over that,

[Lamar]

I got a great butterfly stroke, bro.

[Paul]

No butterfly, bro.

[Nathan]

No, you don't.

[Paul]

That's a ladybug stroke. I want to see your butterfly now. Okay.

[Nathan]

Yo. Matter of fact, almost a year.

[Paul]

Where's your legs doing? Where's your legs doing?

[Nathan]

We went on the lake was, like, about a year ago. You that you, bro. You were terrified of the water. Me too.

[Paul]

Lake waters. I will say lake water is a little different.

[Nathan]

It was. I, I. We. I think we both did the whole day with the floaty.

[Lamar]

We were.

[Nathan]

We were live jacks.

[Paul]

Smart. Floaty. And floaty in the lake is honestly especially. I'm sure alcohol is involved.

[Nathan]

If we wouldn't have done that, we'd have drowned. And you guys would have been the racist guys who killed us on the Internet. That wouldn't have been true, but that's what the Internet would say. They'd be like, they went out there

[Paul]

with their white little Obama chef conspiracy. It would have been gay and racist. It was like Gay, racist, conspiracy.

[Nathan]

We get overly confident. Just.

[Paul]

I'm pretty sure they. Their producers drowned them. Lake Austin.

[Nathan]

We get too confident, ruin everybody's lives.

[Paul]

I mean, yeah, there was. What you call it. I just saw a thing, a famous, like, Instagram bodybuilder. Like a fitness influencer. Like an OG Fitness influencer. Just. Yeah, he just. Well, he drowned the guy. I forget his name. He.

[Lamar]

I saw one about a guy who was like on ayahuasca and he like, ran out of a building.

[Paul]

No, wait, the guy in Thailand.

[Lamar]

I'll find it because I. I find the guy. I'm talking.

[Paul]

I just. I just had it here in my phone yesterday. But there was a guy who was like a OG fitness influencer, 32 years old and let me see if I can find it right here.

[Lamar]

Connor Murphy?

[Paul]

I believe so.

[Lamar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the guy.

[Paul]

32 years old.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

He apparently was just in Thailand and bugged out, like, he smeared paint all over it. He like, just was up all night. Yeah, it again. He's. I think the toxicology is coming in. It seems like meth type stuff.

[Lamar]

I have a video if you want to see him from, like, when he

[Nathan]

was about to pass out, like, Thailand. Meth seems terrifying.

[Lamar]

This is a video from him.

[Paul]

Oh, yeah, he ran. Well, the cops came and he ran away and jumped into a. Like a really deep lake or wherever it was. Tried to swim away and he just drowned. Yeah, that's how he went out. That's him. Is that what he's on?

[Nathan]

Oh.

[Paul]

Oh, no. Oh, God. Dude, that's. That doesn't look fun.

[Nathan]

No.

[Paul]

Oh, that's.

[Nathan]

He's like, playing with his tongue. Damn. Also, that was the thing I wanted to try one day was ayahuasca, but that, like, might have just scared me off.

[Paul]

I'm staunchly, also staunchly. I don't. I think it's bizarre. Like, all these guys that do ayahuasca, they always do it 50 times. They go, you go down into a jungle. I. I really do suspect that some of that stuff is a cult. Yeah, again, it's like you never did it, blah, blah, blah. Fair enough. But I see a lot of people, like, this is my 50th ayahuasca journey.

[Nathan]

Yeah, dude, I feel like too many.

[Paul]

Exactly, exactly.

[Nathan]

Double digits.

[Paul]

If. If it is this, like, you know, mother spirit, transformative thing. You gotta pay this guy a thousand bucks again to do it down in Peru.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Why? I. I personally. And my. I've talked to my brother about this a lot. He shares, I think Even more so. Kind of a paranoid concern where you go down to, like, you know, say, Peru, wherever. These guys, like, the ayahuascaro guys, shaman types, man, that is the easiest hustle to pull off.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You get a rich guy from America or London or wherever, you have them tripping balls with a bunch of other people. And then afterwards you're like, bro, your aura during that whole thing, like, I think you're like part of the great lineage and you need to come back down here and train and like, yeah, I don't know, I could. I don't want to be yucking yum or being like a big time hater on people's, you know, psychedelic bug out sesh. But like, dude, that freaks me out where it's like, this is my 50th time. I'm just. I have so much more to clear. It's like, dude, I know.

[Nathan]

I know one dude who did it. He did it once and he changed his life. I don't know if it was for the better or not, but he was like, he had like a good job working it for like, like a big company or whatever. He just quit and started like, after he did I asked, he came back and quit and started taking care of like volunteering and taking care of dogs at the Humane Society.

[Paul]

That's true.

[Nathan]

Like, that's cool. But it also is like, you had a great gig, bro. I don't know if that. I don't know if your family was pretty hype on that.

[Paul]

That's the thing. I've heard of a couple people too, who have been like, yeah, I've done it once or twice. It was like the. It was life changing. Amazing. It's like, cool. That's nice. I've also, I feel like I've seen a couple people kind of bug, completely bug on it. And then like, I remember, I remember really early on when it was first coming online, talking to someone. We're like, you would hear about it like, it was like steroids. We'd be like, it was like hippie steroids. Like, dude, he's just on a different level now. Like my. I remember someone telling like, dude, my boy did ayahuasca. He came back, now he has a dual screen computer and he just like does all day.

[Nathan]

You know, it's just looking at Conspiracy 2 screens now. That's.

[Paul]

That was the big breakthrough. But yeah, I don't know. I. I do think there's like. I don't know. I. I'm like, the more I see of that stuff, the More. I'm kind of. I'm really hesitant.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

But my whole point is definitely don't do it in your apartment by yourself in Thailand, if that's what you're.

[Lamar]

Every two hours. He was doing extra doses every two hours. Like, taking ayahuasca with you, though.

[Paul]

Just himself.

[Lamar]

Just himself.

[Paul]

Yeah, That's. Well, that's the other thing. You get people who are, like, in the States. Like, not all. I. I can make it. I'll just bring it over. And it's like, I'm not doing it in my house.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

What the, dude? Then you're like, no, take me to the jungle. I don't care if I'm being sucked into a cold.

[Nathan]

Give me the. And everybody I know who's done it says, like, a six hour trip. Like, every two is like, he was bugging. He had to be on, I don't know, multiple. Yeah, multiple levels.

[Lamar]

Yeah. He was in all the dimensions.

[Nathan]

He saw his past, present.

[Lamar]

Andrew Tate was. He was talking about I. He says it's for cowards. He's like, if I wanted to find myself, I'll go in the ring and I'll fight and see what I'm made of. I don't need ayahuasca like that. That's what he said.

[Paul]

Okay. My thing is, like, do it before you talk. That's. That's the OG Anti stoner. Like, dude, I don't even care what any. I guarantee he would bug out and freak the out. That's my thing. It's like, it's probably sick. I'm not saying it's not sick. It's just the context is in. Kind of bugs me out a little bit where it's like I'm part of the ancient lineage. And I've heard that stuff's not even real. Like, the. Like, I heard they did it. Like, that was like, a thing they did a long time ago, but, like, this whole, like, Iowa Scaro lineage. I could be wrong. I've heard it's pretty recent in terms of, like, formalizing it and all this

[Nathan]

stuff again, we're starting to, like, almost like, if you're a salesman.

[Paul]

Like, I heard it's kind of a grift. I heard it's a bit of a hustle. Again, I could be wrong. I don't know. Ayahuascaros. I mean, good luck with that. But I don't even know how to spell it. Ayahuasca. It's like, up there with diarrhea.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Yeah. Impossible to spell.

[Nathan]

Yep.

[Paul]

Impossible to spell. That's all my whole thing is just like heed caution because it's easy, dude. You imagine again, if you are, if you happen to be a bit of a malevolent actor, it's easy to snap. You have some wayward westerner and you're. You blow their mind.

[Nathan]

You're dressed, you have a look like the thing they want you to look like you. I believe that guy. Especially if you're going there for that you're. You want that to all be true. They already know that, that they, you know, they want you to believe or they want to believe everything you're put pitching to them. It's probably a layup.

[Paul]

I mean the easiest and then the babes, the, the babes are there. You can snag the babes. They're first and foremost. It's just like you have the beautiful mother spirit. You're a divine.

[Nathan]

I, I do like. Oh my God.

[Paul]

Have you ever done like theory yoga classes? How did you know?

[Nathan]

Oh my God.

[Paul]

Oh my God. I have done orange theory. Is it showing?

[Lamar]

It's just a Peruvian creeps llamas again.

[Paul]

Maybe I'm wrong. All right, Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's chill again. It's my thing is, I will say for the record, terrified to do it. Maybe one day it'd be cool. You can all do it. You say maybe the company retreat level. That way we none of us get whisked away into.

[Nathan]

So that's like a zero for you. Ayahuasca complete zero.

[Paul]

Maybe maybe one day again. Maybe one day again. I could be wrong. I, I, you know, I, I have a lot of. I have a tendency to like hear things and be like that. That's. But I think it definitely probably rocks your socks because it's similar to dmt.

[Nathan]

I think I'm nervous. That's what I'm nervous.

[Paul]

I smoked EMT before and I was. If you're telling me you're gonna turn that on for six hours. Thank you.

[Nathan]

Did you do like the straight or did you do like the chang?

[Paul]

But it's still like I blasted. I was gone. I, it's nuts, dude.

[Nathan]

I was so I had the chenga for a while and just I had it so long, I was like, it might not be good anymore.

[Paul]

You need. And again this, this is, you know, I'm contradicting myself. But you need somebody there you can.

[Nathan]

It's gonna be me and my girl. She's not you.

[Paul]

Don't you need like I, I luckily still have a thing where like if I'm with my older brother. I'm like, my older brother's here. Yeah, I'm totally cool. Yeah. So I smoked a changa with him and I was like, what could go wrong with motor? And dude, it literally felt like someone just like. Like, you know, we see everything here. I feel like someone just crunched that, like a soda can. Now it's just somewhere else.

[Nathan]

I'm laughing because you said that you saw the day you were with me, the day I lost that my brother couldn't hang at the show, collapsed. Yeah, that was the day I was like, yo, I'm big bro now. He went down.

[Lamar]

What is a changa?

[Paul]

Changa is when you take. So you take basically dmt and rather than smoking the crystal itself, you can kind of like melt it down or like dissolve it in something and put it on like an herb, like anything. And then you let that, the alcohol, whatever, evaporate out and you're. It like transfers the DMT into a smokable herb form. So that way you can just kind of rip it out of a bong and then having to like blow towards crystals like a crackhead. So, yeah, it was, it's. And here's the thing too. It's like, you know, I'm not the biggest psychonaut in the world, but it's like I've done mushrooms a bunch of times. I've done it all that stuff. At the end of the day, there's really nothing that can completely ice out your day to day. Like a Tuesday, 10am part of the day.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You can only. You can only get better at that by facing it head on. The idea like, dude, I transcend it to another dimension with this. And now it's like, now I'm not. Yeah, maybe for three months, man. And then you're gonna, like, you're gonna get an annoying phone call and you're gonna spaz and it's going to contradict this whole personality you've built around being high for 10 hours.

[Nathan]

That might be the. That might be.

[Paul]

That's gonna suck. And then you're gonna get depressed. Is. I've. I've seen it.

[Nathan]

That might be the nice ayahuasca, though. It might last long. They're like that, like little.

[Paul]

Yeah, it's the afterglow.

[Nathan]

Yeah. Because the. Because you get the mushroom after glue, I feel like, lasts for like. If you, if you do. I don't know. I've never really done more than the eighth, but that lasts for like two days.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

Of like. You know what? Nothing's that bad. The world's great. People are nice. And then you get, like. By day three, you're back to, like, yelling in traff. Whatever the.

[Paul]

I mean, again, I'm. I'm not against it. I think it's. I think it rocks that we have that stuff, especially for as we get older.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I think it's, like, massive. It's going to be so great to approach death with the ability to be like, oh, oh, yeah. Diagnosis isn't good. Yeah, Time for a five grammer. It's all been. You know, I'm not in, like, some weird basement. This is all above board. I think all of that is phenomenal. It's just this whole thing when guys are, like, with the whole, like, Twitter thread brain, where it's like, let me tell you about a time I've absolutely transcended. Here's how I've done. It's like, dude, shut the up. No, you haven't. You're a dumbass. This is probably AI.

[Lamar]

It's.

[Paul]

That's the. I hate when it's like, I've gone to. I just. I've gone to another level.

[Nathan]

I would love to feel like that, though. Like, come back and just be weird around y'. All. Like, I'm just weird.

[Paul]

I've. Dude, I've literally done this.

[Nathan]

I've lived it.

[Paul]

I've lived it. And you just crash. It's a delusion. It's a chemically powered delusion that crashes so hard. And you go.

[Nathan]

Just start only wearing the sandals and shit like that. Just. No, guys, I know what's going on.

[Lamar]

If I got diagnosed with, like, a deadly disease, I'd be on mushrooms all the time. I think that would be, like, it just deal.

[Nathan]

I would do, like, a crazy amount every day.

[Lamar]

Just, like, a bunch.

[Nathan]

I might eat a. Like a. Like a quarter ounce, like a half ounce. I think I might definitely. If I knew I'm dying.

[Paul]

Pure vision quest.

[Nathan]

Yeah. 4 fool, you know, lay me down.

[Lamar]

I'm finishing my life. God.

[Paul]

Here's the thing, though. Maybe. Maybe I. I like to think I would, too. But imagine tripping really hard when you know you have a terrible disease.

[Nathan]

Oh.

[Paul]

Because then you might go like, I have a disease.

[Nathan]

And I'm gonna. Yeah, it could freak you out.

[Paul]

No, but if you take enough, you will, like, leave your body. And that would be pleasant because you'd be like, what the. A disease. I'm going over here.

[Nathan]

I'm never going back to that.

[Paul]

That. My body sucks.

[Nathan]

My body's cooked.

[Paul]

My mind is gay. I'm on the ethereal plane, come back into your body, you're like, damn, I thought I was.

[Nathan]

I thought I made it out.

[Lamar]

I already met God.

[Paul]

I think, overall, for real probably would help if you have a terminal disease and you get to, like, blast out of the whole body sphere. No doubt. Huge W. Spiritual w. For sure. It's just when you're, like, 27, you're a coder, and you're like, I've actually hacked the fabric of reality and Tate, dude. Oh. I just get in the ring to see what it's like, first of all. Okay, so then, you know, whatever. I'm not going to hate on Cobra Tate, but it's like, I. He's not in UFC or anything. Yeah, it's like, it's definitely impressive to be a kickboxer, but, like, okay, dude, cool. And it's also, like, he's not defined by his fighting. It's his online personality that's attracting people, so it's kind of nuts.

[Nathan]

Wait, Tate used to be a fighter?

[Paul]

He's a kickboxer.

[Lamar]

He was like, a kickboxer.

[Paul]

He's a real. Yeah, he's a real kickboxer.

[Lamar]

The last time he fought, he, like, lost, though, didn't he?

[Paul]

Yeah. I mean, every fighter loses. But it's also like, I'm not. Again, I'm not sitting here hating on Cobra Tate's fighting.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

But it's like, dude, if that's the case, get in the octagon with a UFC guy, you know? But it's. You know, it's whatever. That whole thing that I've encountered that so many times, it's like that smoking weed is. It's like, dude, you will bug out. It's okay. You'll bug out. Be like, I don't even need that. I'll. It's like, okay, cool.

[Nathan]

I've been debating whether or not I'm gonna, like, do something like that for my dad. He's getting, like, he's getting older. He's getting goofy brained.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

And. And I don't know, just part of me feels like that would be nice for. But I don't want to. Are you laughing at me? Calling it goofy brain?

[Paul]

What's goofy? Yeah. Explain goofy brain. Oh, no, apparently I. I've read a thing that single dose massive mushroom things help dementia. And that's from. That's from our health czar, Brian Johnson.

[Nathan]

See this?

[Paul]

That's a new health jar. Brian. No, Brian Johnson.

[Lamar]

Yeah. I thought he has an incurable disease.

[Paul]

He's got a little bit of these are a little autoimmune stuff. Dude, everyone has that. If anyone. If anyone can figure it out, it's him. He's just going to. Now he's going to dedicate all this time and money to curing whatever this

[Lamar]

is you're talking about. The guy who was drinking his child blood has a weird disease.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Lamar]

Okay.

[Nathan]

But it's the guy you got that mushroom take on.

[Paul]

Brian Johnson. Brian Johnson. Here's the thing. Yes. When he swapped blood serum with the sun. Is that creepy? Optically, yes. Obviously. That's a very, very me. It's the essence of creepy to like. To actually like, suck out your son's youth and inject it into your. It's from fairy tales. He did the mirror, mirror on the wall, and instead of giving a poison apple, he was like, yo, give me some of your genetic youth. Just. You have enough. Let me. Let me feed from you, boy. Yes, that's very unappealing. I understand that. However, what the thing I do like about him is he publishes all. He puts all of his money into stuff, and he's very. Seems pretty transparent about all of his findings. So I. I do again, as optically not the best. That is, I. I do appreciate what he's doing.

[Lamar]

Yeah, he's going euphogenics on his son.

[Paul]

He's doing me genics. But yeah, that's, you know, that's the whole thing.

[Nathan]

Is he getting funding from people? He's just like his own.

[Paul]

He's rich. He's rich from tech.

[Nathan]

Ah.

[Paul]

So he took all of his tech dough and he's becoming like a, you know, like a healthy vamp.

[Nathan]

I love.

[Paul]

He's doing healthy vamp life, which is a new. It's a totally new thing.

[Nathan]

Yeah, I like. I like this new thing where, like, people make a bunch of money from like one tech thing and then just do whatever they want for the rest of their lives.

[Paul]

Exactly. Yeah. It's not. It's not like, you know, I. I have. We have parallel interests, me and. Me and Brian Johnson. But there's a part where I'm kind of like, all right, this is a little weird. I'm obviously a sun maxer. He's not. That's where we really disagree. But the thing he did, he got

[Nathan]

really thinks the sun is bad.

[Paul]

Yeah. He wears an umbrella. It's embarrassing. But the umbrellas. Umbrellas for rain are just like. I. I find that questionable enough for the sun is like, bro, come on. That's just for Asian ladies and a pasty white weebly. That's if we're gonna extend it. Irish is unacceptable. Dude. I took my burn like a man in the pool yesterday. No sunscreen. But yeah, the. The thing Brian Johnson did is he took like, mushrooms, like, big doses and hooked himself up to like state of the art brain. And he's. Now he's. He's taking his nerd brain.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Onto the science of mushrooms and he's finding like, dude, these things are so good. Yeah. For like a lot of stuff that we're not using.

[Nathan]

I was thinking about giving him a little micro and telling him, like, yo, this is like, you know, like, not even like a half a gram maybe.

[Paul]

What do you take it?

[Nathan]

Oh, yeah, he. My dad used to. My dad used to be a.

[Lamar]

He got dementia, man. He won't know.

[Nathan]

I'll tell. I'll tell him. He'll be like, all right, Nathan. He'll give it a shot. But he used to be a Deadhead. Like, for real. For real.

[Paul]

So.

[Nathan]

Yeah, that, like, might be why he has the going on now.

[Paul]

It's a real dead.

[Nathan]

Yeah, he used to. He told me some story about like riding a motorcycle. He didn't know how to ride a motorcycle on acid. Like, he used to be. If you met him, you wouldn't guess that he comes off like a straight lace. Like just Dude.

[Paul]

But usually the most far out guys, by the way.

[Nathan]

Yeah. Like, come on.

[Paul]

Pretty straight laced, if I'm being honest.

[Nathan]

When. When he was younger, he was. He went to Catholic school too, in Redding. And like, all his homies were just like Italian dudes and I don't know, he just became deadheads with them and.

[Paul]

That's so sick.

[Nathan]

Just. He was like, selling weed with you. Like, he. And. And I didn't believe him when he would first tell me, but he did that dad thing where he would, like, tell it again. Like. Like it was. And it would never be. It would just be like a story told like the first time. Nothing's different.

[Lamar]

Like.

[Nathan]

Oh, he really did that. He just wasn't trying to sound cool. But.

[Paul]

Yeah, no, he's probably. And also, he probably was like. Yeah, I. I would imagine he. He wouldn't try to just sound cool. First case. Probably.

[Lamar]

Like.

[Paul]

Yeah, he was.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Especially if he was a. Yeah. Being a Deadhead back then must have. It was black Deadhead. Like, Deadhead is wild.

[Nathan]

It was.

[Paul]

And it was like those dudes just like chomped LSD with no fucking clue what it was.

[Nathan]

Yeah, that was. Apparently that was him. I got black Deadhead.

[Lamar]

All the white women you can fuck, dude.

[Nathan]

Bro, he Went to Catholic school when I was. I don't mean that now. I'd be like, hop up, my dad.

[Paul]

But no, that is a buffet. That is a snowboarding buffet. That's the bunny buff.

[Nathan]

I was at, y'. All. You know the Pal. They had pals. Yeah. You know, the pal right there, He. I was at the Pal for, like, a summer camp, and this lady, like, found out about me, realized she knew my dad. She was a freshman when he was a senior. She brought in the yearbook, showed me the picture, and was like, oh. She told me. She was like, all the girls used to like your dad. And it was just like, hell, yeah.

[Paul]

Yeah, dude. He was probably the absolute girth monster of the deadlock in the seventies. Who's the OG Girth monster?

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You got to find out if he had, like, a hippie name, because a lot of those dudes did have, like, a alias. That's really fun.

[Nathan]

Yeah. I gotta ask names. I'm asking.

[Paul]

Probably was just Girthquake.

[Nathan]

Earthquake.

[Paul]

You're so funny, D. It truly called you earthquake. Buffalo 72, son.

[Nathan]

How'd you know?

[Lamar]

That's going to be nice, though. You give them the mushrooms. You got to play the dead. You got to put on the dead. Back in the day moment.

[Paul]

Yeah, true. That's a good idea. A good call.

[Nathan]

Yeah, That's a good call.

[Paul]

My brother's on a similar quest to get my parents on the micros.

[Nathan]

Yeah, it'd be good.

[Paul]

It'd be good.

[Nathan]

Where they. They're not in Philly anymore, right?

[Paul]

They're. They're in Philly. They're, like, right outside.

[Nathan]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Paul]

Where they always been. So. I mean, they should just move to Florida.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Honestly, that would be the most chill if they just. Or at least, like, split time.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Just go in there all winter and

[Nathan]

come back, get around the warm. Yeah. Not worry about shoveling or. Does your dad still shovel? Or like.

[Paul]

Dude, they. They get, like. I mean, they're. They get full Tonka toys.

[Nathan]

They have.

[Paul]

Because they have, like, loaders. They have, like, excavators. Loaders. Or they don't use the excavator for the thing, but they'll use, like, backhoes.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And just plow the driveway. They're so into maintenance.

[Nathan]

Yeah. Grass.

[Paul]

All that.

[Nathan]

So they might miss the winter if they go down.

[Paul]

I think they. They would enjoy. My dad's a big fisherman, so he'll enjoy the boats. He's a. He's a big pedal kayak guy, so he loves being on the smallest boat in the water and looking at all the big boats and being like the. Would you need that? Yeah, it's a waste. It's his favorite thing in the world. What the is that, dude?

[Lamar]

Ain't nothing like cutting your own grass, though.

[Paul]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Nathan]

We would just. I, I, I don't wanna. Like, I don't wanna. I haven't. I got an apartment instead of trying to rent a house for that reason, I did not wanna.

[Lamar]

I used to cut my grandma's grass all the time, and then she had, like, a yard.

[Paul]

It's cool. I mean, it's, It's. If you put on the thing is like you try to put in the T mower so loud, if the tunes don't come through that well. I used to mow the lawn back in the day with the CD Walkman. It was just torture. Hit a bump, Skip, and I'd be like, trying to listen to Wu Tang forever.

[Nathan]

I'm surprised you don't have, like, mowing grass fears because of debris. Just real quick, please come to Optim Noctis. Me, Lamar and Sean. Oh, no, Sean probably won't actually be at that one, I think, but he, I think he's going straight to, To Philly, though. Wait, no. So what is it? 7 17th, 21st. Oh, he'll be back. Yeah. Me, Lamar, Sean, Beer. Optimum Knock this creek in the cave. July 21st. Please, please come.

[Paul]

All right, August 7th and 8th, I'll be in San Jose, California. Please come to that. August 13th and 14th, I'll be in Spokane, Washington. That'll be fun. And then the old fall tour kicks up. September 11th, I'll be in Portland, Maine. And then Boston, Massachusetts. Royal Oak, Michigan, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Chattanooga, or Chattanooga. Excuse me. Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, Orlando, Newark, New Jersey. Baltimore, Columbus, Cincinnati, San Diego, Sacramento. So that'll go into December. So please come, guys.

[Nathan]

Hell yeah.

[Lamar]

Wait, guys, wait. Don't leave. It's me, Lumer. July 31st in Savannah, Georgia at 7:00pm Please come to that. And then Chick Lamerly dot fun.

[Nathan]

Mowing grass fears because of debris.

[Lamar]

No.

[Paul]

What happened to him?

[Lamar]

He cut his toe off.

[Paul]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lamar]

No, I used to mow it to. My grandpa died on a lawnmower. It's my, like, bloodline.

[Paul]

Dang. He did he really?

[Lamar]

Yeah, he was working at the vets. Like the AM Vets.

[Nathan]

Such a beast there.

[Lamar]

Yeah. Then he had, like, a heart attack. Just, like, kept going.

[Paul]

Be. It is a beast.

[Nathan]

It really is.

[Paul]

Dying on the lawnmower is nasty. You know what kind of craft he

[Lamar]

Was working John Deere, brother. The green and yellow dude.

[Paul]

I didn't know that. That is such a beastly day.

[Lamar]

It really is dying what you love, doing what you love.

[Nathan]

You just can't ride. Literally rode into the sunset.

[Paul]

I was praying he got to lower the deck. Shame if he didn't get to lower the deck and smell that grass one more time. Yeah, I'm on a. Right now. I don't know. I don't know when. This just, like, hit me the other day. I'm on a personal quest right now to make my mind better than the phone scroll. So in any moment that I have mental downtime that I initially. It's, like, instinctively pull out the phone to scroll.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I don't know when it just occurred to me, I'm like, dude, that's such a. A front to myself to be like, my mind's not better. It's like, every time I scroll, I'm like, it's pointless. This is dumb.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

But then I'm going, well, I'm saying that's better than just, like, my mind. I'm like, I'm on a quest now to be like, no, my mind's better than the scroll.

[Nathan]

I can find more entertainment in here.

[Paul]

I can find more entertainment in my own brain. I don't need the scroll. And I've been off it. I've been off the scroll. My. My screen time's down to, like, two hours.

[Nathan]

I. I was reading something that. That was, like, saying that boredom is, like, good for your brain, too. We're trying so hard to not be bored. Like, you're taking a dump phone. You're doing. You're waiting at, like, I don't know, at the doctor's phone. And it was like, boredom is good. Is like, your brain is. You're thinking about things. You're. You're getting better empathy. You're doing all this other, like, I don't know, dumb human. Not dumb human, but, like, human that we don't do as much anymore because all of our downtime is like, all right, I got downtime. What's going on?

[Paul]

Well, yes, it's literally, like, subconscious processing. So that's why when they say, like, sleep on it, like, you. You thinking about stuff, then your brain goes offline and you wake up, you're like, oh. You know, that's why people figure that out. I think the boredom is, like. For me, it's just like. Yeah, it's just a sick part of the day. It's like, you're left alone with yourself and you have to like. Like they did back in, like, the day when you're out in like, a field in like the 1700s, you would just be, like, staring at the sky with nothing to do. I feel like that's a good idea. Generation time. That's when you kick out a sick idea or one leaps out of nowhere.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

That's the whole thing of just constantly pulling that out. It's just. I don't know. For some. I don't know when it happened, I just got, like, sick of the idea. I was like, dude, my brain is. My brain's better than this.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Why the am I. What am I doing? Why am I. Why am I nagging my brain in mind as if, like, I need to watch people fall and argue.

[Nathan]

I love watching people fall. People fall is so good.

[Paul]

It is nice.

[Lamar]

I.

[Nathan]

You don't need to. But then you see what you're like. Well, that's the funniest thing I know

[Lamar]

I've seen all day.

[Paul]

I know. It is good. Again, it's not. Not my problem is I'll be bored and then I'll scroll till I'm so bored of scrolling that then I'm somehow able to return to normal life. And I'm like, dude, I'm just gonna cut it out. I'm gonna try my best to cut it out all together.

[Nathan]

I do feel mentally drained after those long scrolls. I can feel like something in the front of my head, like, feels like tired. I don't know, maybe dopamine or whatever.

[Paul]

Your brain's literally going. It's so much stimuli. Your brain just. It's not like you're going, oh, I'm here. And, well, now I'm entertained. It's like a mentally taxing event to constantly be like. And then watch and be like, why the would they say that?

[Lamar]

It's kind of like a psychological assault,

[Paul]

you know, that's my whole point. It's like, dude, it's the. And it's like you have almost every single person tuning in. Did not everyone has different algorithms, but it's like there's a part of your individuality that is like those quiet moments, I think, kind of make up because you're in those moments. You're going, huh, I never thought about this. I never thought about this. But in all your quiet moments are replaced with almost like watching a commercial.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

It's going to be like. It's have this like, bland, uniform way

[Nathan]

to put it, like watching a fucking commercial.

[Paul]

Kind of what you're doing. You're watching a Very sophisticated commercial.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And it's just like, you know, like a Pepsi commercial. Although it's tied to, like, all the corporations and they're just like keeping you in that, like, I call it a negative flow state. And you're just in a literally a negative flow state that like, goes nowhere and they're just sending you anger horny,

[Nathan]

you know, somebody got hurt. So that's funny.

[Paul]

Yeah, that's awesome. Oh, someone you don't like. Yes. Has embarrassed themselves.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Congratulations.

[Lamar]

You win it again. Good job.

[Nathan]

You win.

[Paul]

No, I'm really am. I'm really working that out of being like, yeah, I need to whatever. To fit whatever I'm deficient in to make it so that I can't enjoy a quiet moment with myself. I'm going to actually take that head on rather than staring at my phone and continue to pacify myself into oblivion.

[Nathan]

That's nice.

[Lamar]

Do you think a book counts, too?

[Paul]

Books are good. Books are good.

[Lamar]

Why are they different than.

[Paul]

I'll tell you why a book. You're taking on the spirit of the author. It's a transformative experience. You never once. You put it on a book. You can go, I've never once put down my scroll and have been inspired in any way. The book, on the other hand, is you're communing with people dead and alive on a very, very deep personal level. So I would say books 100. This is. This is my. Is my prescriptive action is you have to come up with actions that make time feel not like torture. So books of constructive action instrument, obviously, I think is a huge one. Walks, talking to people. Anything else than staring at. I really think it's bad. Puzzles. Fantastic. Puzzles are great.

[Nathan]

I've been wanting shooting to be like my new hobby because I live close to the range. But it's like buying bullets is so it's not like a cheap. You go like, all right, I'm just having a relaxing baby.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

You drop 150 old bullets, you're like, well, now I'm stressed out about these bullets.

[Paul]

How much are bullets now? I haven't bought bullets and depending on

[Nathan]

because I have a 9 and I have a like a gun that shoots 5, 5, 6 and the 9's head. But the 556 is the one I want to shoot more. And yeah, it's that those are like a box. A decent box is like, I don't know, 150 or something like for like 150 of them. Ends up being like 50, 70 bucks depending on. Yeah, I don't know, it's always like a different box size when I go to the range. So it's just like a different.

[Paul]

Well, you know, you could do. You could become a cop. Because then I think if you're a police officer, you go to the gun range there and they give you ammunition, you can just not use it all. And you can stockpile it basically free. So I've heard. But you're stockpiling, brother.

[Nathan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul]

You're the well oiled militia that's going to protect this government dude. So you deserve some ammo. The taxpayers.

[Nathan]

I like it.

[Lamar]

I've been getting cop pilled. What do you mean they're bad cop

[Nathan]

hill or good cop hill?

[Lamar]

No, it's just like ever since the Legos thing, it's really like exposed and I've been watching like a lot of Midwest safety and a lot of the cop stuff is just like cops, they pick a person and then they're like, that's the bad guy. Even if it's not the bad guy. You know what I mean?

[Paul]

I don't know. I mean sometimes. But I also think they have also

[Lamar]

I feel like they work for the rich too.

[Paul]

I mean that definitely. Dude, if you're, if you're rich, obviously the cops are going to favor. If you, dude, if you donate to that like FOP shit, you could do whatever you want. If you, if you like for real or in there like actively donating to the police all the time, bro, they're gonna let you go for sure.

[Nathan]

The first car I ever had, I, I feel like I like never got pulled over. And I, what I did one time as I was driving, they were giving out like if you took, gave a donation on the side of the road, they were giving out these magnets that were. I forget what it was, but it was about like a cop who got killed. It was like, it was like something and I slapped it on the back of the car and I just had it on there for years. Did I have my white Acura when I knew you? I don't. When I had that car. But never I never really. And then, and then somebody crashed it

[Paul]

and I, I had the FOP sticker.

[Nathan]

My fiance crashed my OG car and

[Lamar]

at Stitches Comedy Club.

[Nathan]

At Stitches Comedy Club. Dang.

[Paul]

Somebody, Somebody crashing.

[Nathan]

We were like early date. I picked her up hammered. I was like, you could drive the. You drive back. Crashed it in the parking lot.

[Lamar]

I was

[Paul]

dang. Well, here's also laver to your point. I mean who do you think tortures cops more Rich people or poor people?

[Nathan]

Poor people.

[Lamar]

I mean, but like, they have. It's like. It's like working at a McDonald's, you know? You know who's. Who's going to come.

[Paul]

Yeah, but still, I mean, to be fair, they're getting tortured, my poor people. Constantly.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

It's just a matter of fact. And obviously, you know, it's not only that, but it's like they're torturing. Imagine, dude, just having to go into a domestic dispute. I would cry. Be crawling in my skin. Just because I don't. I. I don't like being there where people are fighting. But then it's. You're around strangers who are going at each other, their children are crying, and you're in their house. After the hundredth one, I'd be like, man, I really can't stand those guys. I really dislike having to do that. That sucks so bad. They're both screaming at me now. That sucks so bad. Yeah, I would put it. I would put that off. So I would be like, yeah, I'll be. Let me do something.

[Nathan]

The only time cop really irritates me is when they are doing for like quotas or. There was a. This doc. I think we might have talked about it before, but it was like about the girls who got killed in Austin at the ice cream shop. The dude who. The first, like three dudes who got arrested for who have now, like, they're. They're cleared. They got arrested because the, the detective who was interviewing him was really good at tricking people into being like, the best thing for you to do that'll be like. Is to say you did it. And we'll go from there and you won't get as bad a time. But. So he was like tricking dudes who didn't do to be like, just say you did it. It'll be okay.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Lamar]

And.

[Nathan]

And then they were like in jail, like their lives were ruined.

[Paul]

That's. That's jerk stuff. That's the thing when cops. Well, they get like. They get like career ambitious. So it's like, yeah, the more stuff they do, the better it looks. It's. You know, they're just. They're not upholding their true calling.

[Nathan]

Yeah. And that. And that is like ruining lives on the way. Like.

[Paul]

I get it too. Yeah, attorneys do it too. They'll be like, hey, man, just. It'll be better for you. For you and it for them. It's like if they have a prosecution rate that's high, they're. That's all they care about.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So it's not about justice.

[Nathan]

Yeah. We need to get back to justice.

[Lamar]

I think I'm going to become a justice cop after when. When this is all done.

[Paul]

Justice cop would be nice. Dude, bro, I'm telling you, I. When Brittany was a cop, I was so close to becoming a cop. It's kind of. It's like as shitty as it is. I remember being like, you could make this chill.

[Nathan]

Your husband, wife, partners might be awesome.

[Paul]

They do there. It's more than you think. And it's. I think it's a disaster. Really. It's. Yeah, there's. It's either cops either marry other cops or nurses typically. That's what I saw. The cop nurse combo is like the absolute age old love affair.

[Lamar]

Yeah. The cop sends him to her. He's like, I hurt this guy.

[Paul]

Patch him up, man.

[Nathan]

But not too good.

[Paul]

You could make it a chill job for real.

[Nathan]

You said it would be you.

[Paul]

You could, you could. But the thing is that sucks is I didn't know this, but a lot of times starting out, you're on shift work. So you could work the mornings for two weeks and you're in the afternoons, then you're on the fucking graveyard and that shit sucks. No matter.

[Nathan]

You can't never get a real sleep schedule.

[Paul]

No. You're fucked. You're kind of fried all the time. So if you can avoid shift work, you need to walk in, you need connections. Is if you go in there for sweet deal.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Where it's like you're on the 7 to 2, you're off. That would be chill. But it's like, I think it's. I don't know, it's.

[Nathan]

It seven to two, I'd be a bag seven to two cop. Because I'd catch a hangover.

[Paul]

Maybe ten to four.

[Nathan]

Ten to four, I'd be great. Seven to two, you catch me on a hangover, I'd be like, you were speed. You're gonna pay for this.

[Paul]

Just say you did it, man. You'll be fine. You know what sucks the most? Imagine if you just munch lunch you haven't done all day. You eat a big fat. You eat a meatball sandwich. And then just like everybody, they hit you on the radio. And now you gotta get out of your car and full sprint after a guy who stole like a pipe off a construction job. That's why they get heart attacks, man,

[Nathan]

because they're just super stressed, dude.

[Paul]

They just munch. It's like a. Even a snake knows not to move after a date. A boa Constrictor knows delay for like four days after he eats a prey. The dude. Imagine munching, thinking about it, like, especially, like, four coffees deep meatball sandwich now. It's like

[Nathan]

your value constipated now. He got over.

[Paul]

You just. You just finished the hobby. You're three refreshers. Deep Starbucks refreshers. And now you gotta chase a guy who might have a gun. You're like, it's up.

[Nathan]

He better not let me catch him up.

[Paul]

My digestion, the bliss of having just finished a big sandwich.

[Nathan]

Did you ever hear that statistic about, like, judges where, I guess when people have, like, their. Their hearings, like any sort of like, hearing, like you're trying to get parole or whatever, if you catch the judge, like a couple. Like, he was close to his lunchtime, but he didn't have lunch yet. Is like, those dudes have the worst records of, like, getting out because they're grumpy. Like, when they're. They're a little grumpy. Water. Yeah. Dealing with. If you catch them, like, right after lunch, you have a better shot of.

[Paul]

Wow.

[Nathan]

I. I saw something that said. That's a real. I didn't do research about it, but.

[Lamar]

Your honor, before I present my case. You hungry?

[Nathan]

Would you like a Snickers? True.

[Paul]

Why wait?

[Nathan]

I saved to my commissary. Your honor. I worked for 17 hours to get you this Snickers.

[Paul]

There's a pack of peanut butter crackers. That's. I could see that. Actually, I could definitely see.

[Nathan]

As soon as I heard, I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. Yeah.

[Paul]

Oh, dude. Especially a lady judge. Come on. Come on. Life sentence.

[Nathan]

Yeah, you're cooked.

[Paul]

Life sentence.

[Nathan]

You hear a lady.

[Paul]

You're speeding in the construction zone. She missed lunch. You're doing three years hard labor camp. Why did you do that? I just think this is a little. What? Your honor, I think you're. You might just be being overly emotional.

[Nathan]

Excuse me, your honor. Is it by any chance your period?

[Paul]

They should. For real. That's like a real thing? Yeah, that's a real.

[Nathan]

They should not be allowed to be.

[Paul]

Judges decide fates. Are you kidding me?

[Nathan]

Yeah, that's. I never even thought about that. That's unreasonable.

[Paul]

It's crazy.

[Nathan]

That's.

[Lamar]

We.

[Nathan]

We've gone to a little too far with.

[Lamar]

Dude, where's the statistic on that?

[Nathan]

There's gotta be one.

[Paul]

There's gotta be. You can't even study it because they'd be like, what? You wanna look that up? That's got. There's got to Be something. Gotta be something to that. What is the grock? What is the period judge statistic? Dude, I. While you find that lemaire. I had a fort. We were talking fourth of July earlier. We had. In my neighborhood, there was like a little. They did like a little thing where like kids and whoever could like walk around, I guess. Like a parade.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And you know, and it was. It was hot as. You know, as we know. Huh? Dude, it will. It was hot. It was like hot as. So we were like, all right, we'll just like go. We knew where the end point was. Let's just chill. We'll do our thing and then we'll go to the end point of the parade and we'll wait because then like they opened up this little building and they did face painting and all this.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So I was like, we'll just wait for like the after party type thing on 4th of July. This is like when. Whatever it was like 10 in the morning. It was early, so. Or 12, whatever it was. But so we're. We're like ready to go in. It's like a crowd now. Every. All the parade walkers are done. They're waiting outside this building and. And it's like a decent little crowd.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And there's like the Ever kids are excited. There's face painting. There's like cotton candy and inside. So we're all like waiting to go in. And you know, with all this like, whenever there's like a free public thing, you're always like, oh, this is nice.

[Nathan]

Yeah, I.

[Paul]

It always. There's always weird politicians, like low level politicians that come and they use it. They like hold you hostage to do their politicians sit there and listen. Dude, here's. This was the weirdest part. So I'm like, all right, excited. I fall for it every time. And I'm like, of course, here comes the. Some guy who's a. Whatever cabinet chancellor.

[Nathan]

So the. The.

[Paul]

This like, guy starts talking and they. I didn't realize they had a camera and they're giving speeches, but they didn't have a real mic. They only had a road mic that hooked audio to the camera. So they're. They were doing political content in front of a crowd and nobody could hear them.

[Nathan]

They're not like, no projections.

[Paul]

They weren't even talking to us. They were using the. The visual of a crowd and being like, what fourth of July means to me. And it was pissing me off.

[Nathan]

No, that's so bad. Thanks.

[Paul]

That's so bad. On the day of Independence.

[Nathan]

Yeah. I want the 250th birthday.

[Paul]

You're gonna make on 250, bro, I forgot. If it was 250, I might have. I might have dumped something over. I might have flipped the face paint into the pond, bro.

[Nathan]

It was 250.

[Paul]

Three of them are. Three or four of them did these jerked off speeches. It. It bothered me so much, dude. It. It was so brutal and it was like nobody could hear them.

[Nathan]

Yeah, it was just for sure.

[Paul]

Okay, hold on. They take it off, give it to the other guy, and they use the crowd almost as like a look what I'm up to here. And it was like, you, man.

[Nathan]

People are bringing out their kids to

[Paul]

see me and I'm to hear my thoughts on this. It's like, dude, open the face paint. Get the fuck out of the way. Those politician guys, it'd be so easy for them to be like, hey, I'm a. If they were just had a slight sense of humor, like, hey, me, your local scumbag politician. Just letting you guys know, get in there. It's going to be sick. Happy fourth of July, everybody. I would go, I remember that guy who's fucking normal.

[Nathan]

He was cool as hell.

[Paul]

I have no other faces of these names. I'll fucking tack that guy on. Just be transparent. Like, hey, I'm running for office. Annoyingly, I have to just like get my face out there. Yeah, I know, it sucks. Love you guys. Happy fourth of July. Let's get after the cotton candy. Hey, little kid. Dude, you didn't even ruffle little kids.

[Nathan]

A little scamp.

[Paul]

Raw heads ruffle little baby kiss. I. I would have instantly been like, what's up, little guy? You gotta get in there.

[Nathan]

Politicians can't kiss kids anymore though.

[Paul]

Nah, head ruffles all you could do. Maybe baby.

[Nathan]

Maybe baby. But after, I think, I think the like all that other Epstein, all that kissing the kids, you gotta go full

[Lamar]

open mout

[Paul]

key on a baby. Man, that guy really loves art.

[Nathan]

His constituents being so upfront about it. It can't be that weird.

[Paul]

It's like a. When a dog's corner of its mouth goes up. Whoa, sir. Yeah, I. I was just watching that. Being like, this is bad. Yeah, it just sucked. It's like, dude, be fun. If you're a politician, you're. If you're trying to attract attention. First of all, if. And again, maybe this isn't a YouTube. Maybe this is for their personal website. But if which it probably was a YouTube video. Do you really think anyone's gonna watch? Yeah, a shitty speech on it was like, dude, be a hoarder, dude. Get out there and project.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Fellow constituents.

[Nathan]

Like, if you have somebody actually with their voice command attention, that's good.

[Paul]

Like, well, they did have a crazy homeless lady who was there who was like their kind of like, mascot for. And she was rocking it, dude. She was. They had a marching band and she was just like, yelling nonsense and moving around. I was like, at least she's entertaining. Yeah. These guys were boring. I was in the very front going, boo. I kept my kids being like, this is boring.

[Nathan]

What were they doing?

[Paul]

They're just laughing. Like, when can we get a face pain? Like, once these jerk off stop talking. These jerked off, low level politicians. Shut up. We can finally get cotton candy and face paint.

[Lamar]

Oh, dude, I saw Brittany at Jutes on Monday.

[Paul]

Yeah, she was dropping. Yeah. A little jiu jitsu camp. My kids were kind of stoked on that. But, dude, I was. Oh, yeah. So then, yeah, we go in there and it was just like. It was. It was annoying. That Fourth of July did rule, though. I was in a pool all day. It was nasty as hell. Got to play horse pool ball. But then Sunday, so I go to the farmer's market. And that's my. One of my favorite things during the week. I like going to the farmer's market. I like. Whenever there's a new vendor, I'm like, oh, what's this? Raw milk? Cheese? Yes, please. Which, by the way, I'm gonna eat when I get home.

[Nathan]

But the fart Max Cub.

[Paul]

Dude, I. It was the. I've been. I don't know what it is. So there. There's been. I've been discovering just new freaks. There's. There's different. And this one guy I think was one of one. I'm at the farmer's market. I'm in line to get. I was getting like figs and peaches or whatever. So I'm in line to get that in a watermelon. I'm in line ready to get my produce. It's hot. We all know it's hot outside.

[Nathan]

It's hotter than they're saying it is.

[Paul]

That's a fair point. I think the weatherman might be lying to us.

[Nathan]

Yes.

[Paul]

It's probably like 200 degrees right now.

[Nathan]

I think it's 250 degrees outside. There's no way it's only 98.

[Paul]

Dude. I'm in line. We're all crammed in. And the lines at a farmer's market. I've already talked about this. Are annoying enough because everyone feels like they have To. To talk to the vendor where they're like, hey, man, those peaches ahead last week. It's like, shut the up. Buy your peaches, dude, we're in a thousand degrees in the line. Buy and leave. But whatever, that's fine. I'm dealing with that. And I'm in line, and there's this older guy behind me. And you know, it's hot. We're all hot. And this guy goes, ah, right in my ear. And I go, come on, bro. I'm looking ahead like, that better have been one of, like, no more of those. Two minutes later.

[Nathan]

Oh.

[Paul]

And I turn around, I'm like, bro, are you okay?

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You're moaning in my. We were all hot. This is despicable what you're up to.

[Nathan]

How old did he look?

[Paul]

He wasn't old enough to be. He was like, maybe my dad's age.

[Nathan]

Okay.

[Paul]

Okay. Where it's like, dude, this is crazy behavior right now.

[Nathan]

Yeah. You're not dying. Get out the heat.

[Lamar]

No.

[Paul]

Yeah. Just move, dude. Get out of here. You can't get. Get peaches this week. You're going to die.

[Nathan]

Yeah. Did you hear about Big Boy? No, it's. It was this. This trade. Yo, the bear loves this. It's. It was this train that was going through, like, all, like, all the, like, pa. Like an old train that people were really excited to see. Like, an old freight train. And they're. They're, you know, all out there waiting, just waiting for. Just to drive past. But it was so hot in PA that like 150 people went down for

[Paul]

the heat exhaust mid train.

[Nathan]

Not like, they were not on it. They're just standing at the side of the tracks waiting for it drive past. It was just like a thousand autistic people.

[Lamar]

There was so many people watching this.

[Paul]

Oh, these were just train enthusiasts.

[Nathan]

Just enthusiasts. Over a hundred of them went down

[Paul]

just see the Big Boy.

[Nathan]

Just to see the Big Boy. No deaths. No deaths. Three hos. 30 hospitalizations in, like, 100. Plus EMT, like, needed to help, so

[Paul]

their butt got as sweaty as it could.

[Nathan]

Who waited for the trade. Like.

[Paul]

Like passing out. The Big Boy is so funny.

[Nathan]

It's just a loud freight train. It's nothing else. It doesn't shoot off fireworks when it comes past.

[Paul]

Oh, my God.

[Nathan]

It rides past, it stops for a little, and then keeps going on pandas.

[Lamar]

This week, we were like. It was Big Boy mania.

[Paul]

I mean, giving it all, leaving it all on the field for Big Boy is nice, but I know I left it all in the tracks. I Withstood the maximum amount of heat for Big Boy. And me and 100 other biggest nerds ever is passed out.

[Nathan]

That's so like, imagine dying like that.

[Paul]

That might be something. I would walk away from my kid if my kids passed out waiting for Big Boy. I would just quietly turn heel and get in my car and drive away. I like, I don't want to do this anymore. My getting passed out. Big Boy.

[Nathan]

I, I raised the bail.

[Paul]

Fat autistic son, one arm across his shoulder like Vietnam and is walking back to your car. Man, come on. Big Boy passed me. Yeah, he passed. It was beautiful. You saw it?

[Nathan]

You saw it, man. Passing out and missing Big Boy.

[Paul]

Missing Big Boy.

[Nathan]

I didn't even think about that.

[Paul]

This is final words, did I, Did I say Big Boy? Yeah, they had a red, white and blue banner on the front of the grill. It was beautiful, son. You saw it. You saw it.

[Nathan]

You saw it. I promise you saw it. You just don't remember you saw it.

[Lamar]

It is a pretty nice train though. When we saw it.

[Paul]

I mean, to be honest, I, I would, Yeah, I, I, any of us could pass out looking at it.

[Nathan]

Especially when it's 300 degrees outside. You dress for 110 and it was 340 degrees.

[Paul]

I mean just the, I mean it is the palest legs.

[Nathan]

It's like Central pa.

[Paul]

Imagine the flashbang. Because if your kid's gone down, you're probably close.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And you're just walking through a field of passed out autists. The train horns like, where am I?

[Lamar]

It's goddamn D day.

[Paul]

How is there no snack bar? Where's the concession stand?

[Nathan]

There was none in it.

[Paul]

You're getting hella back to a quick stop. Right? I wish I knew about the battle. I not see the Big Boy fallout

[Nathan]

to his sheets.

[Paul]

It's so really Mamdani's against the autists right now because he did the air conditioning. He like tried to have it so people couldn't have their air conditioning below 78 degree or 74, whatever the it was because they were giving. They're expecting outages because they're in a massive heat wave. So I think he did, you know, try to get into some like cool socialism. Like come on guys, let's all, let's all be the same temperature. Isn't that, wouldn't that be cool if we're all the same exact temperature, guys? And already people are like you, yeah, it's hot as I'm going to 73. And also to be fair, that's like give me Liberty, give me death. It's like, give me 72 degrees or give me blackout. I'd rather be hot and sweltering and just like a complete electrical blackout and be like, oops, the governor said, or whoever said, like the mayor said, I couldn't go below this thing in my house.

[Nathan]

And if that's the one thing too, because if it blacks out, you're like, well, Everybody was under 74.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

Imagine you had yours on 74, your hottest. And it still blacks out.

[Paul]

And you go to your Neighbor's house around 73, and you're going, bro, mayor's orders. He goes, what are you gonna tell you now?

[Nathan]

Would you be pissed if you went to your neighbor's house and they were on 68?

[Paul]

Well, here. This was the big. The thing I saw was that I, I think, I think Taylor Swift either had or was planning to have a concert and, or not a concert, a wedding.

[Nathan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul]

With her beloved.

[Nathan]

Yeah, she had it.

[Paul]

Chelsea, she had it. And they were going, I bet that wasn't 74 degrees. It's like, yeah, of course it wasn't, dude.

[Nathan]

Yeah, yeah. She rented out MSG also.

[Paul]

I, I, again, it's like, I, I'm not like a huge. Proponents of the rights of billionaires, but this whole thing of being like, the billionaires, it's like, yeah, they're billionaires.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

They're going to do it.

[Paul]

They're not going to do all the. You're worried about. Has it just stopped making it seem like it'll ever have anything to do with them. Them. They're fight. They're financial mutants.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

They're not going to be like, well, we're going to turn down our thermostats. It's like, no, you imagine they're billionaires. It's like, I get why you're mad, but it's like, be real.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You know, you're not going to be like, well, do it billionaire. That's why they have a billion dollars. They're going to be like, hey, turn off their. Yeah, they can do that. That's what happens when you're a billionaire. I don't know. It's not a welcome take, but it's like, stop comparing yourself.

[Nathan]

It's just billionaire. It is what. It's one of those it is what it is kind of thing.

[Paul]

It's like completely is.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

It's like, at least free yourself for the mental burden by being like, I bet Taylor Swift's wedding was. Yeah, it was. Dude, she's a billionaire. She had a comfortable Wedding in Madison Square Garden.

[Nathan]

Stop wasting your time worrying about it.

[Paul]

Yeah, you're never gonna get anywhere that way.

[Nathan]

I've tried to have that. A similar conversation with my mom about politics. She'll be working exactly like. Like it doesn't matter. You're old as like.

[Paul]

Yeah, it's just relaxing. You're mad about this. Yeah, it's a sad thing to get mad about.

[Nathan]

That's exactly, That's. I've said it to her like, it bums me out how much time you spend thinking about this. Yeah, you're gonna die one day, lady.

[Paul]

You have a mayor telling you to control your thermostat.

[Lamar]

You think she feels the same way with you about aliens?

[Nathan]

I don't talk to her about it, psycho. I'm not gonna be like, mom, have you heard about the aliens?

[Paul]

It is funny to calm her down about the news and like now about these aliens.

[Nathan]

Watch Nathan about to die.

[Paul]

That's the thing too. It's like, I don't know, it's just. You read all this and it's like, I. There is, there is the other aspect where it's like, you know, if we're going into a future of super hot, super cool socialism, which we might be of just babes being like, let's all come together as one and turn down our thermostats. It's like, yeah, maybe there's a. There's a cool community aspect in that. But first of all, it's like, I know people are cheating, dude. Yeah, I know people are going, well, I have.

[Nathan]

Have you been getting the Austin Energy text? No, I've been getting the text from Austin Energy that's like, we're expecting higher because of the heat here. Like, they're. I'm getting the same thing, like maybe below on your electricity. They don't get specific about like the temperatures, but there are like, they're big.

[Paul]

Be conscious of it.

[Nathan]

Be conscious of your. The electric you're using during the day to day.

[Lamar]

You're about to get a data center. Thousand dollar bill.

[Nathan]

I know, right? It's going to.

[Paul]

Are they come. Do we have them here now?

[Lamar]

There's data centers in Texas. I don't know if they're really in Austin. Yeah, but there's some like outside, like,

[Paul]

and they're jacking up the electrical bills for everybody because they're using so much electrical that then becomes so in demand that they can raise their prices.

[Nathan]

And they're kind of, kind of on

[Paul]

the electrical companies, dude.

[Lamar]

It's on the electrical companies and the, the data Centers are, like, lying about how they're. How much electricity they're going to use, too.

[Nathan]

The thing that sucks was it's in these like. Like lowly pot. They put them in lowly populated places, which are usually not a lot of money there, too. The person making, you know, $40,000 a year, who.

[Paul]

And then their bill skyrockets. My thing is, why doesn't the utility company take the W and say, cool, we're now selling more gigawatts, whatever the they're called.

[Lamar]

Well, there's this one company that, like, stopped. It stopped giving power to people. It's going to stop giving power to people in just four.

[Paul]

Power to the people.

[Lamar]

It's going to stop. It's taking away the power from the

[Paul]

people, their literal power.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Is that true?

[Lamar]

Yeah. And like Mount Vernon, California or something.

[Paul]

Hold on. But they're just not going to have electricity now. I find that hard to believe.

[Lamar]

It's going to have to get another company to come, like, support the town.

[Paul]

I find that strikes me as sensational.

[Lamar]

I don't know.

[Paul]

Maybe that's true again because, like, dude,

[Lamar]

think about if the people can't afford it and the company with all the tax breaks can't afford it, you're going to go.

[Paul]

You're just gonna give all your electrical to the company.

[Lamar]

Yeah,

[Paul]

dude, I'm sorry, dude. If you were. One day, they were like, bro, yeah, I was not giving you. That sucks. I would be livid if they're like,

[Nathan]

I was trying to find it.

[Paul]

I don't know, dude, you're kind of. You gotta kind of like, do something if you want electricity. It's like, come on, man. What the. Just asking for a little bit of juice here. You're trying to power my switch and watch some tv.

[Lamar]

You want to build a goddamn generator.

[Paul]

I find that so. I highly doubt that's true. I'll be honest. There's no way find that story. I need to see if that's actually true. But the mom, Donnie things making me laugh. I just. I have a. I'm just curious to watch that all play out. Here's the thing. I'll be honest. If that worked, if he somehow united the entire city of New York in some very kind, compassionate, thoughtful manner, that works for all. That's amazing. Yeah. I just. There's no. There's no track record of ever really people ever getting away with that and doing it without that. Devolving into the people in power becoming absolute psychopaths.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

Like, wow. I'm controlling everybody.

[Paul]

Yeah. Yeah. I Just don't. You know, I don't see that working out, but we'll see. In the meantime, in New York City, don't touch that thermostat.

[Nathan]

You think the plan. I will tell, like, his people. He'll say, everybody do it, but he knows his supporters will be, like Mandani said, so they'll do it. In that half or however many is enough to kind of be like, all right, we. We got the. We got the dumbass half.

[Paul]

What do you. What do you. Wait, you mean, like.

[Nathan]

Like, the people who voted for him who are, like, super Mandani supporters, like, say he get that, like, a small portion of that group which says, like, one tenth of the population of New York to. To actually do it. He's saying it to everybody, but they are like, there's no way everybody's gonna do it, but that 1/10 is enough. You know what I mean? Like, almost like you're tricking the people. Like, everybody do this. And he's like, no way everybody's gonna do this.

[Paul]

Maybe. I. I personally, I think it could be. And again, I don't. I don't know if it's. If it's this deep, but I. Maybe it could be one of those, like, they call it the totalitarian tiptoe, where it's like, hey, everybody, turn your hair down and see if you can get them to do little by little, see how much control you really have.

[Nathan]

Then they start putting a monitor.

[Paul]

I wonder, because they could probably measure in watts how affect how much people are actually listening to them, which is kind of creepy to be like, let's measure the electrical output and see if

[Nathan]

people are 100 with AI now. 100.

[Lamar]

You, like, look in people's house with WI fi, probably.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Lamar]

No, you can't.

[Nathan]

No, I've seen that.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Lamar]

Like, the day the. The signal bounces off the walls, and then it, like, it hits anything that's interfering the signal, and it can, like, tell you what's in the room.

[Nathan]

Whoa.

[Paul]

It's kind of sick.

[Lamar]

Yeah, it's crazy like that.

[Nathan]

I think the government can, like, military can, like, do that.

[Paul]

Like, look in.

[Nathan]

They can see everything in this room. Like, us sitting here being fat. I don't know if our. I don't know if it. I don't know if it's bouncing off of our penises. I don't know if they can see that. Like, oh, if it's just, like, your clothes outline.

[Paul]

I spent a decent amount of time in here naked, to be honest. If I, like, walk or work Out. I'm sweaty. And then I come in here and I throw my clothes in that washing machine. And I usually get a shower and I'll just sit here, just wait. Waiting for my clothes. My clothes are just the process of being taken care of. They're being washed.

[Lamar]

I found the story. It says, what's the scoop? Envy Energy, the Nevada utility company, has supplied most of Lake Tahoe's electricity for decades. It has informed Lake Tahoe's Liberty Utilities that it intends to. That intends to. Will stop delivering power to the region. That it will stop delivering power to the region sometime after May 2027, forcing the provider responsible for serving 50k area residents of Scramble for a replacement energy source.

[Paul]

So they're going to have a new place step in.

[Lamar]

But because they're giving all of their energy to the data centers. Because up in North Vegas is where they're building the most data centers.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Okay. So then they have to. Dang. So not even hooking them up with like, here. These guys will switch you over.

[Lamar]

Yeah. You gotta find a new guy by May 2027.

[Nathan]

And that's not a little bit of people. 50,000 is a lot of people.

[Paul]

It doesn't even make sense. So my thing is that electric is attached to an infrastructure.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So you can't just be like, unless somebody. Someone must have taken that over or.

[Lamar]

No, I think they're saying someone's going to have to take it over.

[Paul]

I don't think you can legally do that as an electrical.

[Lamar]

They're doing it.

[Paul]

Hey, they must be paying so much.

[Lamar]

It must be giving Trump money.

[Paul]

Yeah. True Trump 2.0 is not going down favorably.

[Nathan]

Let a lot of people down.

[Paul]

Not a lot of people are going down. Even the FIFA thing was interesting too. Would you stepped in and reversed the red card.

[Nathan]

Oh, I. Wait, did they actually reverse it in Canada? So after. Way after the game happened, they ended up.

[Paul]

The dude got a red card in one game that was. He was kicked out of that game and then he was supposed to be suspended for the Belgium game. And apparently I don't know if it's true. Trump knows the guy from FIFA somehow, which I'm curious how he knows him because it almost strikes me as like, he might have some dirt on the guy. Well, the FIFA guy reversed, apparently. I didn't realize that's never been done before. Like reverse or appealing the red card suspension. Yeah, they somehow did it and got it done. So then that player was allowed to play in the Team USA game against Belgium, which they just lost anyway.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So the international community was livid about that. But now England's going for a red card appeal.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So England's like, you. If you let them do it, we can do it.

[Nathan]

It got him. Just give it to him.

[Paul]

So sick. America ruined the World cup, didn't England window. But they're. They're. I think someone got a red card. And they battle against Mexico. So now they'll be suspended for the next game. And England's being like, yo, this.

[Nathan]

Yeah. There's a lot of sad people walking

[Paul]

down the street on Mexico game.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Those jerseys are sick, though.

[Nathan]

They are.

[Paul]

They're fire, those jerseys. They're very sick. Yeah.

[Lamar]

You know what? There was no sad American when we lost. Everybody seemed relieved.

[Nathan]

Yeah. I was at the bar and everybody was like, oh, that sucks.

[Paul]

Hot take. Soccer is a minor league sport. It's literally a minor. It's the Philadelphia Phantoms, dude. It's like, I'm stoked. People are excited about it, but it is genuinely. World cup is minor league. It just is, dude.

[Nathan]

It was. It was fun for a little bit knowing other countries were, like, getting to watch us be kids, though. Like, it's their favorite time of, like, the center of the decade.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

And it's just us with, like, red, white, blue face paint, yellow, USA being mid. It's like, you guys aren't even that good. Shut the up, dude.

[Paul]

It's like if the Philadelphia Phantoms went and played abroad and like, yeah. They got fourth place in a global tournament, we go, cool.

[Nathan]

Yeah. Nice.

[Paul]

Cool.

[Nathan]

Kind of did better than we thought.

[Paul]

Yeah. Great. I'm glad everyone had fun, man. That's a good thing. Glad everyone got there and gave it the best. The whatchamacallit. The hell's gonna say, people? Apparently the, you know, everyone, like, abroad is like, America sucks. Apparently the World cup was a giant. It was a big leg up for, like, the image of America abroad because everyone. There's all the. Was going back where everyone's like, this place rules. I don't know. Everyone's saying America sucks. And everyone's. But all these people from all over the world were like, this country rules.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

They got to experience it. But the Trump reversal, I think erased some of that goodwill where they're like, like, I knew it. They think they can do whatever they want. First of all, we did. We literally can, like, like the revert, which, again, I don't know how they did that, but that was like, on, you know, but that. Yeah. I'm glad everyone's enjoying the World Cup. It's Fun. It's fun to watch. But again, it's. Losing is kind of like, whatever, guys, we won. We made all that money. All our businesses thrived during the World Cup.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Been great for us. We looked great during it.

[Nathan]

I've been enjoying watching, like, foreign people try our foods.

[Paul]

Yeah. Ranch is a big one, apparently.

[Nathan]

Ranch.

[Paul]

Yeah. Apparently there's a lot of videos of foreigners trying ranch and being like, what the is this?

[Nathan]

I've seen good ones of barbecue. Like, trying barbecue. And I'm being, like, grabbing one of them big ribs and just being like, holy. Like, taking a bite and being like, oh, man, I'm not coming back. I'm not going back to where I'm from.

[Lamar]

American cow. Very big cow.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Nathan]

That's what. They're just in Philly. They're yelling. I just go, go Birds. In, like, a dumb accent. Just. Just like.

[Paul]

I mean, dude, it really is. It's. It's sick to let people come here and be like, yeah, this place actually kind of does rule.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Let's stop being haters for a second and be like, this place kind of rocks. We have our problems, obviously, but, like, it rocks, dude. It rocks. You know, it sucks. The town that got completely unplugged sucks. That sucks. I'm sorry.

[Nathan]

There are places where the coolest is go see a big train drive past, and that kind of sucks, but.

[Paul]

No, that's good.

[Nathan]

One of them was in Reading. Like, where I'm from, I'm not even.

[Paul]

That strikes me as a big train town.

[Nathan]

We're on the. We're on the Monopoly board. We're the train. We're the reading railroad. That's us. It's us. I didn't think about was the railroad doesn't run anymore. I think it was like, a big deal because it came back through where it didn't run for my whole life.

[Paul]

Yeah, that's fucking reading. No surprise. That's probably why I had the association was from there. Yeah. Okay. I think we did. Let's.

[Lamar]

Let's switch over.

[Paul]

Might even we will just jam this up and maybe cut it in half. Lamar. Let's just keep rocking, man. Keep rolling.

[Nathan]

Hell, yeah.

[Paul]

Let me pee real quick. I have to pee.

[Nathan]

Yeah.

[Paul]

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