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Matt
Okay. The U2 album, it was on the ipod. It was on everybody's phone. Phil was convinced that I downloaded that onto his car because anytime he started, his car played. And the album art was like a guy sucking another guy's dick. I don't know if you remember that. No, the album. Out of the album that they put
Shane
on that YouTube, there's a guy kissing a guy's.
Chris
Was it really?
Shane
Yes, of course.
Matt
Dude, that's you, too.
Chris
I didn't know that.
Matt
Yeah.
Chris
Huge information.
Matt
Yeah. The YouTube movement.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
Phil thought it was me. Now, some guys, I'm not saying. Who, think Metallica is not as good as YouTube.
Chris
Well, the original argument was November rain versus enter salmon. November Rain, I would say, but we were talking about.
Billy
Well, the original argument was about Prince. And then we all agreed, so we had to find musician.
Chris
He's not that good.
Shane
I'm like, bro, bro, I didn't say that. You did.
Chris
He's not even that good. This. He's not.
Shane
He's not. Like, everyone, like, jerks him off like he's some crazy guitarist. He's like just like every other shredder in the 80s.
Matt
You said he wasn't top 20.
Shane
He's not top 20.
Matt
Yes. That was the beginning.
Shane
That was my argument.
Chris
Argument.
Shane
That's literally fair.
Chris
Genesis, that's. We already. We settled the Prince.
Shane
Prince, not top 20 is a pretty fair argument in terms of.
Chris
I don't think you had. You didn't have an argument there. We entered into the argument of, like, if. If stuff's better musically as, like, a musician. And then we got into somehow Enter Sandman verse. Guns N Roses.
Matt
Yeah.
Shane
That had nothing to do with that conversation.
Billy
It did.
Chris
It sprung from it. What are you talking about?
Billy
Yeah.
Shane
You said, Enter Salmon isn't as good as November Rain. I said, dude, Enter Sandman rules.
Matt
You definitely entered November Rain into the argument. Yeah, because nobody would pick that.
Chris
We're talking about Inner Sandman.
Shane
And I was like, we didn't go from Prince to gnr. It was just a new thing.
Chris
No, it was all the same. It. Dude. It was a music musical debate.
Shane
The debate was Enter Sandman versus What's it called again?
Chris
November Rain.
Shane
Yeah, exactly.
Guest
And.
Chris
Oh, the appeal to authority.
Shane
There it is.
Chris
They're to authority and Achilles heel argument. No, they could never see Aguilera better than Santana. Tell for the people.
Shane
You already. You're already moving the goal post all around. It's crazy. It's almost like a girl tactic. I don't.
Matt
I don't see girl tactics.
Shane
Enter Sandman.
Matt
A good move in the debate or girl tactics. A great movie.
Chris
November.
Shane
November Rain.
Producer
Yeah.
Chris
November rain's better. A better song.
Shane
Enter Salmon is I November reason.
Billy
I will say that last night I came in on the November rain camp.
Matt
Chris, you were. But you were out of your.
Shane
Pound for pound.
Chris
You were out.
Shane
And our Sandman's better. We listened to literally, like, Was pretty good.
Chris
Nate.
Matt
November heard it for the first time. Oh, this song's awesome.
Shane
Hold on, Nate, you heard?
Matt
It's awesome.
Shane
You heard that for the first time last night?
Matt
Yes.
Shane
And then what happened when we play Enter Sandman? You heard it already, right? Enter Sandman. Yeah. You heard it a million times already. I wonder why.
Chris
Yeah. That dude that you're. I look, I love you. I don't want you to go back into those. It really is the pumpkin waters.
Matt
We've already covered this.
Chris
True. Yo, he feels he was blown away. Sandman Nate was blown away by November Anderson.
Shane
Man. Nate butt.
Matt
It thinks Lupe is better than Kanye.
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah, you do. You. You did until I took you to that concert. Yes or no? Yes or no? I'm just reporting. Yes or no? Yes or now. I love them both. Guard dog. Guard dog. Guard dog. He loves Lupe.
Shane
Backpack wrap.
Matt
I love Lupe. I love Lupe.
Guest
He's.
Matt
He's one of my goats. But Kanye is the best. I was about to make everybody, man, say Kanye's better than Beatles.
Shane
Nice mic drop.
Chris
Sick mic drop.
Matt
Kanye better than Beatles. You got a better argument than you two over Metallica.
Shane
Yeah, that's the second argument.
Matt
You two over Metallica.
Shane
You two over Metallica.
Matt
The most insane look I'll take.
Shane
That's literally, like, the most.
Chris
I was riding high from November Rain. I don't like Metallica.
Shane
I don't either.
Chris
And then not that much.
Shane
Like, I don't ride.
Chris
Okay, who's a girl now? Screaming about who's a girl now?
Matt
I'm saying, who's a girl now?
Shane
Dude, I had screaming and crying last night.
Chris
Picked a horse.
Matt
You screamed and cried last night.
Chris
I back.
Matt
I went to bed. Like, man, I said, I'll let the little boys handle this.
Chris
I backed a bad horse. I. I was like, dude, you two is probably better than Talca. We went track by track. Did I back a bad horse?
Matt
Judas Dud. I literally saved you on the beach. I literally pulled you off. By the way, if you think we have teams, if you don't think I'm just sitting back and enjoying this, I mean, I understand the truth. Is anybody saying November rain over Answer Sandman is a fool in public. Boys
Billy
like the Edges.
Chris
So often times the fools dressed in a crowd.
Matt
A lot of times fools are
Shane
pushed
Matt
onto the ground and everyone goes, shut up, fool.
Shane
Yeah, my argument.
Matt
Remember when Mariano Rivera ran out to November Rain? No, no, no, no, no.
Shane
That's right.
Matt
Remember when guys, I can't believe November. Remember, yo, when Virginia Tech, when they run out of tunnel? You know how the entire hundred thousand stadium jumps up?
Chris
You know something I like?
Matt
I. I swear to God, it doesn't come close.
Billy
It comes pretty close after a goal,
Chris
and that's a cool application for a song. The Crowd up is great, but as a great song because you can. You can puzzle the crowd.
Matt
It's almost like you can listen to
Chris
it in your car while you're driving. You can do all kinds of stuff. That's one specific thing for a song to be used for. November Rain. So many different kind.
Matt
How come the musicians agreed?
Chris
They were led, by the way.
Matt
There was a lot of the musicians that we will not name. Two out of one.
Chris
Two for one, two for one. Nate, first time listener. November Rain blew him away.
Shane
He didn't choose.
Chris
Yes, he did.
Shane
I mean, if we put on Inner Sandman for the first time ever he heard a million times already, it would have blown his mind.
Chris
I don't think it did.
Matt
He would have been literally one of the Russians taking his uniform off and
Chris
being on someone's shoulders going, guys, people like different stuff. Nate doesn't like.
Matt
People like different stuff. Different stuff is the end of the argument.
Shane
Yeah, that's where it went.
Matt
Then we can agree that was a college.
Shane
Then you said, this is a better guitarist.
Chris
Immediately took that.
Shane
Disgusting.
Chris
That was a hail Mary.
Matt
I was.
Chris
I was really sweat.
Shane
And you guys. You didn't take it back. You guys. What about Britney Spears and Carlos Santana?
Guest
What the.
Chris
You guys.
Matt
Hold on.
Chris
I. I said the Edge one. I did a compilation and a mid thing went, this sucks. Took it back immediately. You went, they're better because more people listen to it. I said, whoa, Bill. I said, now I got them where I want them. I said, bill, that's appeal.
Matt
That's how you're losing this argument. I can't believe you're losing this argument.
Chris
He was. That was.
Matt
You're losing a YouTube vers. Metallica argument.
Chris
By his own logic, you two is technically better because they have more records or whatever.
Shane
They have more records.
Matt
It's literally hard to lose this hard. You two is.
Chris
He was on the break and he wouldn't admit. I admit it when I'm wrong. I go.
Matt
Some may argue, why climb the highest mountain. Why does you two beat Metallica? Not because it is easy. I argue that you two.
Chris
God, I could have went with Sabbath. I could have went with Sabbath.
Matt
Sabbath. Matt, you wouldn't have an argument with Sabbath.
Chris
What do you mean?
Matt
We would agree with you.
Chris
Yeah, yeah, true.
Matt
We're not. We're not guys that go.
Chris
I was saying a bad.
Matt
Remember Coldplay? They're better than Mentality.
Chris
You said coldplay rocks. Coldplay does rock.
Matt
Coldplay does rock.
Chris
They rock.
Matt
But YouTube, come on, entertainment.
Chris
I said, if we were going things, if we were going by. They're more popular and they sell more.
Shane
We were just going by what's best.
Matt
That's not the only. Because that was not the argument.
Chris
His argument was that. And then.
Matt
Hold on.
Chris
Take it back.
Shane
Quiet for a second.
Chris
You said, don't worry about. The sound is better than Carlos Santana. Britney Spears better than Carlos. You said that last night, brother.
Matt
Like a woman.
Shane
I was like. Like a woman.
Matt
You look at me, you're a liar.
Shane
Like a woman.
Matt
You get rid of these beggars.
Shane
Like, you were like, edge is better than Kirk Hammett. And I was like, dude, that's just not true. I put you in the dirt on that. And then you were like, what about.
Billy
I laughed.
Shane
Your eyes started darting around.
Chris
Not true. I looked at it. I went, this guy sucks. This guy sucks. And then I said the whole thing. My whole argument was like, you were basing on appeal to authority. And I said, bill authority.
Shane
You were saying, you too. They're the most appeal authority band in the world.
Matt
They're on everybody. They're on everybody.
Shane
They're making red iPhones.
Chris
The whole way I was saying is, musically, I was like, they're better musicians than Metallica.
Shane
They're not.
Chris
And I died on that hill because
Shane
I Bono against Hetfield. You think Bono's a better singer than Headfield, bro?
Chris
Well, it depends on who has more range. Yeah. Now you get.
Matt
I'm getting field.
Chris
I guess.
Matt
You know this master.
Chris
Master. He. Every dude, every one of his songs sounds exactly.
Shane
And Bono weirdly whispers into the mic,
Chris
Bono has more of a vocal range.
Shane
He doesn't.
Chris
He does.
Shane
Literally does.
Chris
He does.
Shane
And then he said, edge over.
Chris
And I immediately laugh and come back as soon as I saw the compilation, you said, yeah, Nsick and Britney Spears are better than Carlos Santana. You gotta live with that.
Shane
You were trying to get.
Matt
Well, yes.
Chris
By those metrics.
Matt
I believe I gotta walk that back.
Chris
You gotta take.
Matt
Also.
Shane
Okay, I'm taking My l. So you
Chris
have to take that out.
Shane
I'll answer.
Chris
You flopped on that. You almost lost the worst debate of all.
Shane
The reason. The reason it got to there because I said, dude, they're just better. It's not even competition. And you guys are like, but why?
Matt
But why? I was like, they're.
Chris
You said they're better than Carlos Santana. I was getting double revoked. No, you can't revoke.
Matt
Also in the middle of the double teaming, you were taking the Okame was a wild card too.
Shane
Okay?
Matt
You just hop in and scream. You had your own argument. You were arguing. Just so you know, you were arguing alone against no one.
Billy
No, I wasn't part of this conversation.
Matt
You were sitting at the bar. You were sitting at the bar. You would look over with your white eyes and your red face, okay. And you would go, yeah, we go. Holy. I forgot Chris was here.
Billy
It was a different conversation.
Matt
I know. You were having your own. It's a different conversation.
Shane
I supported.
Matt
You were having your own battle.
Billy
This is a misrepresentation.
Matt
And you always do this. Anytime I talk about Prince, you hijack it and you take it too far. I didn't take it too far. Anytime.
Billy
I said there was 2,000 artists that
Matt
I believe are better than Prince. Taking it too far.
Billy
Yeah, that's great.
Matt
That's false.
Billy
And I began today. Through the top thousand from 2001 was
Matt
Prince is not top ten. And then my only ally in the argument is always you. And you jump in and you say, he's not top 2000. Then I gotta go. Now I gotta ride with this guy. He's like, creed better than Prince. And I gotta go, am I wrong? Creed bangs 311 better than Prince. And I gotta go. And I gotta go.
Billy
You've had the fight too many times.
Matt
I know the battle. I've listened to every single song.
Billy
It's. It's.
Matt
I've had this battle that many times.
Billy
I know, but that's what makes you gun shy. You know what I mean? That's why you'll say he's outside the top 10. And I'm telling you, outside the top
Matt
10, there are big.
Billy
It's worse than that.
Matt
You think he's not top 2000?
Billy
I don't think so.
Matt
Matchbox 20 year prince. Okay. It's easy.
Billy
Matchbox.
Matt
Where we're wrong. You're wrong about how? Because Prince is better than Matchbox Horny.
Billy
By what metric?
Matt
Every single possible metric. No, there's not one metric.
Billy
Hit songs.
Matt
Yes.
Billy
You think Prince has.
Matt
Yes. We could look at Billboard's top hit songs.
Billy
Now we're back to the popularity thing.
Matt
Well, you just said hit songs.
Shane
See what happens, they start dancing around.
Matt
Okay, hold on. Time out for one second. Call Timeout.
Billy
Hits.
Matt
You literally just said hit songs.
Billy
Yeah, yeah.
Matt
And then I said, no, but hit songs, this. And you said, now you're bringing up.
Shane
I like this.
Billy
No, no, no. That's not what I said.
Matt
Okay, let's do it again.
Billy
I was saying hit songs. I'm talking about.
Matt
Okay.
Billy
Songs that they've made that you, like, genuinely love listening to.
Matt
That's the definition of a hit song.
Billy
Yeah. Like Matchbox 20, I think, has, like, hit songs that you would, like, play and.
Matt
A hit song.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
So a popular song. That's what a hit song is.
Billy
I guess. I didn't mean it that way. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it in the. In the. Like, a building.
Matt
Like a Billboard top, maybe Bangers. No, but it. Hit song. Yeah, we're gonna strike. That's fine. We play for a couple seconds. Yeah, yeah, but I love that. I love that argument. Name a hit song. You mean like a Billboard top one? No, you're bringing up hit songs.
Billy
No, no, I mean, like.
Guest
Yes.
Chris
You mean Bangers.
Guest
By bangers.
Chris
So it's push you around. I wanna push you. What other. Oh,
Guest
yeah.
Matt
Santana and Matchbox 28.
Chris
That lab was no.
Billy
Nasty.
Shane
Rob Johnson. Or is it Rob Johnson? Rob Thomas.
Matt
Rob Thomas.
Guest
Yeah.
Chris
I met him one time backstage. I snuck backstage, actually.
Shane
I'm a big Game of Love fan, too.
Matt
I always thought Rob Thomas looked like the guy who cuts the guy's dick off in Game of Thrones.
Chris
He does look exactly.
Matt
Does he look exactly like him? I can't.
Chris
Yo.
Matt
You know, he's Spud.
Billy
Spud.
Matt
Rob Thomas and the guy who cuts the guy's dick off.
Chris
I feel he looks more like different
Billy
stages of their lives, you know?
Chris
That guy's had an incredibly brutal life. Rob Thomas had, like, the worst life ever. I've read his.
Shane
You can hear it in his music.
Chris
No, he got. He had, like, a really. He had a very up. Horrible.
Matt
More than I can hear.
Chris
Yeah, like a terrible, like, horrible home life. And then, like, he started a band that never worked out for a long time.
Matt
It's just like, hey, guys.
Chris
He had a tough time trying to.
Billy
No, I was listening to When It Comes. Sexual deviant.
Guest
He.
Chris
No, I never said that.
Matt
He said sexual deviant.
Billy
Sexual deviant.
Chris
No, he just had.
Billy
If you read his Wicked Home Life is Bad.
Chris
It's like an unbelievably. Horrible.
Billy
Tried to start a band and it didn't go so good.
Chris
I think he got like by a manager. It was. He just had like hardship after hard talk about Prince.
Shane
Not Rob Thomas.
Chris
Rob Thomas.
Billy
Yeah, yeah, he's talking about Rob Thomas.
Shane
Rob Thomas isn't sexual deviant.
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Billy
I don't know
Matt
if he listens to this podcast. I never said Chris o' Connor called
Billy
you and I'm the only one defending him against Prince.
Matt
You're saying so what do you think he's gonna I bet you Rob Thomas be like, dude, Prince is better. I think he I didn't cut the guy's dick off in Game of Thrones. Prince is probably better.
Chris
It was good. I. I love a good sport though. That was good sport.
Matt
Nothing fires me up. People. People seem to get mad at me every time I I.
Chris
It's fun.
Matt
I delight in.
Chris
It's fun.
Matt
I delight it. I, I love it. I love seeing guys get going like that.
Chris
I entered the argument last night laughing. I was having a good time. And then I got sucked into it. Next thing I knew, I was having a good time.
Shane
It took me an hour and a half fully caffeinated.
Chris
You were caffeinated, though.
Shane
I know. And the conversation kept going.
Chris
Next thing I knew, I was just like, you too. I love you too. Yeah.
Shane
I was going to sleep like, how did that happen to me? I, I told myself it wouldn't work.
Matt
I got sucked in.
Chris
I know.
Guest
Huh.
Chris
Text the group chat.
Billy
Yeah.
Chris
No more arguing.
Billy
Yeah.
Shane
Shane Stannis I love.
Matt
He's inevitable somebody's gonna. If, if you're on beach trip, there's gonna be a blowout argument.
Shane
Nah, that was nowhere near sand.
Billy
Sand.
Matt
That was nowhere near Sandman. Yes, that was. Understand the real Sandman.
Shane
O' Connor almost got physical on that one. Our argument did not.
Matt
Almost scared my dad. You die was scared when he got
Shane
bored him maybe, but no, I remember
Matt
him going, I filmed it. I have.
Shane
You're domineering over me.
Billy
No, as I was on the other side of the count.
Shane
Walked over. I remember everything from last year. And you know that.
Matt
I do remember. And you know that I remember domineer over him. You stood over me. You're like, I don't give a. I have a degree.
Billy
I said that from the other side of this counter.
Matt
No, no, you walked.
Billy
When I said, when I said that I don't care who your uncle is or whatever.
Matt
No, I, I, I remember there were two chairs kept going.
Billy
My uncle works for Halberton or.
Shane
No, my uncle doesn't work for Halberton.
Billy
Please.
Shane
I don't know. No, the owners Spade was talking about,
Billy
I think they were. Halberton came up.
Shane
Spade was talking about Halbert and how they get oil out of the ground. I will say those hunks nothing to
Matt
do with the sand. Those hunks that were this Halbert and they were bringing up the, the hunks
Shane
that were giving us our umbrellas.
Billy
Yeah.
Shane
They're pouring a lot of water on that pole.
Billy
Well, they were digging deep down to. What do you think?
Chris
What was the argument with the sand?
Shane
Compacted sand?
Billy
Yeah. If you pour water on sand, does it get stronger?
Shane
Weaker?
Matt
Stronger, Weaker.
Chris
How so?
Matt
Oh, well, once it dries. Here's, here's a part of the argument. Here's the part of the argument you're missing.
Shane
They're wrong.
Billy
They're wrong.
Matt
Here's part of the argument that you're messing with with the sand argument. Chris was filling up a single bottle of water.
Billy
That's. Now, now it's not true.
Shane
I remember everything.
Billy
What.
Chris
How do you build a wet sandcastle?
Shane
What do you mean?
Chris
Like when you do a drippy castle, that's way different than just a pile of dry sand.
Shane
It's the same thing. There's just water in it.
Chris
So.
Shane
So it doesn't absorb.
Chris
It just whole water gets trapped between it pretty much.
Shane
I mean, it's. Sand's like one of the smallest.
Chris
It's like rock.
Billy
No one said it absorbed. Chris, does it hold together better?
Chris
Yeah, for sure.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
Chris, can I ask.
Billy
Pretty simple. You pour. You pour water on sand. What happens to it?
Chris
It does go here.
Billy
Yeah, sure.
Matt
Chris, can I ask.
Billy
It's not rocket science. And I had to. I'd have this battle for five hours.
Matt
Chris, can I ask you something?
Billy
Halliburton comes up. Chris, 3:00am 3:00am is a great matchbox 20. So
Matt
hold on. Can I ask you something?
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
You're telling me you were not filling up water in a water bottle?
Billy
It was a. It was a bigger water bottle.
Matt
It was bigger.
Shane
And then when this went down the pole, all the water expanded the hole and pushed the hole out more.
Billy
I compacted the sand with my foot and then I poured water on top of that and then I compacted it again.
Chris
Yeah. Water does something to sand for sure. Yeah.
Matt
Yes.
Shane
But it's not worth filling this up.
Matt
But at the, at the. Where we were on the beach, it
Billy
also kept the umbrella from tipping over. No one gives a about that results.
Chris
Okay.
Matt
It was pouring water onto the base.
Billy
No one gives a about the result.
Chris
To get the thing.
Billy
They just, they kept talking to me.
Shane
Thankless job.
Billy
You can't. You can't build a foundation on sand. All this stuff that I never was
Chris
even talking about, it was still open because it does. Water does something to sand.
Matt
I.
Shane
Not tonight.
Matt
Right in the middle.
Billy
Slightly wet sand is stronger, but if
Matt
you do it too much. Yeah, but this was zero wet sand. This is pouring a.
Billy
No, slightly bottle of water. Slightly wet. Not like soupy. Not soupy sand.
Matt
I know, but you were tying.
Billy
Make that sand soupy. Chris, you're saying I was.
Shane
I. I should put more water and
Billy
that would have been a soup.
Matt
More water would have helped.
Billy
Soup.
Matt
This was nothing. If you walk up to that beach
Billy
right now, you would have done the same thing. If I put a big bucket of water on it, you go, it's too Much water. It's soupy.
Matt
And Chris, I supported it. I actually stayed out of this argument. I was delighted to watch it happen because I remember when you were filling up one of these in the ocean. Now all of a sudden, the bottle got bigger. We got a case of big waters for the first time ever.
Shane
I remember everything from beach trip one. It was literally water bottle.
Matt
It was 100. Is it 20? Chris, 24. Chris, Chris, Chris.
Billy
And you guys are also changing.
Guest
You.
Billy
You were saying water does nothing.
Matt
I didn't say that.
Shane
It's not going to help.
Matt
I never said that.
Shane
Water goes back and forth.
Matt
I never said that.
Chris
Once every 30 minutes.
Billy
30 minutes. That's how long we were at the beach today. You think it took 30 minutes?
Producer
Water in back.
Chris
That's the real argument.
Matt
The situation is dry, dry, dry. We're at the top.
Chris
You got too much water.
Billy
You got too much water in the San.
Matt
We're at the top of the beach here.
Chris
Powdery dry.
Matt
Is completely powdery dry.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
Chris is sticking one of these bottles, without a doubt, into the ocean. And I'm sitting next to Spud. We're down by the ocean, and Spud goes, that's not gonna do anything. And I was like, you should tell Chris, because I knew Littlefinger. Second, he tells Chris, we got a ball game now. Then once Chris. It's my favorite moment of beach trip. Chris with a bottle of water in the ocean that he's gonna walk back up to the umbrella to pour on the base of the umbrella. He goes, oh, yeah, okay. Why is that? As soon as I went, oh, we got it. We got one now. I. I gotta.
Billy
I'm glad that you said that, because it's not gonna do anything, is the argument.
Shane
It's so.
Matt
It's then the opening statement. I look at Spud, I say, I'm gonna leave. You guys are going to be arguing about something else in one hour. Came back. We're talking about Halliburton, building sand. Nothing like building on top of it.
Billy
I didn't bring up.
Matt
We're arguing about that. Where the water table is. We're arguing about everything. Now. The truth is, Chris, you are right in my opinion. This is my opinion.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
That. That would help pack the sand.
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
If you weren't pouring more than this and walking back and forth, which is a giant waste of time.
Billy
How far was it today? How far was it today?
Matt
Today's farther. We both know today is different than
Shane
we were talking years ago.
Matt
We know the hurricane. We know the hurricane. We're here.
Billy
The Way the things move. It's like now I'm filling up a thimble. I'm walking two miles back and forth.
Matt
It's like, Chris, Chris, you're right, you're right. It was an office water cooler water bottle. It was gigantic. And it was.
Billy
If you want me to be extremely packed it down. It did work, Chris.
Matt
You're right. You're right, Matthew. Box 20 is better than Prince.
Chris
You were.
Matt
You were filling up a 50, if you want.
Shane
Extremely honest. Glad you were pouring it out. You were also squeezing it as hard as you can and crinkling it up.
Matt
You squeezed it and crinkled it and
Shane
it was one of these water bottles.
Matt
I mean this.
Billy
That's in real time changing discussion.
Matt
Now I got to have a crinkle. I'm giving you a mental picture like this, all right? I got Bill on my side. He goes. Just so you know, you were crinkling it. And I got to go, yeah, you're crinkling it.
Billy
That affects to be filled up again.
Matt
I'm just.
Shane
No, I'm just saying, like that's what you do again. A little water bottle like this and filling it up. It wasn't any bigger than this. It was this big.
Chris
So not enough water.
Matt
It was a feudal. It was just. It was completely useless.
Shane
Just enjoy the beach.
Billy
It was useless. Other than the fact that it works.
Chris
In theory, it would.
Matt
It worked. You had to. With or without the.
Billy
I got all I got.
Matt
I got.
Billy
They ran the gamut. The wind stopped. Like all this stuff they just couldn't admit.
Matt
You think the water worked?
Shane
Yeah.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
You think pouring a this amount of water on the base many times.
Billy
It was back and forth. Yeah.
Matt
Maybe three. You gave up because you knew it was ridiculous. Well, I got caught in the middle of an argument I couldn't keep. But you did.
Billy
I didn't stop.
Matt
But you did. How many times do you think you went.
Shane
You had to keep doing it because it wasn't.
Matt
I would say.
Billy
I would say it's almost like. I would say seven to 10.
Matt
You think you did seven to 10 trips far.
Billy
It's not that far.
Shane
It was a long beach.
Matt
It was a long one. The beach was almost like Normandy.
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
It was crazy. You were talking, you were falling, you're sound was given out. You were Hanks. Yeah.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
Also, Chris, when you're telling me you took 10 trips, I think easy. You think you took 10 trips?
Billy
You think I wouldn't in the face
Shane
of this, why did you have to take 10 trips?
Billy
Someone goes, that's not gonna work. You don't think I'm doing 10?
Matt
At least 10 trips.
Shane
But why did you have to take 10?
Billy
I talked about it for six hours. I'm gonna make more than.
Chris
Did the umbrella stay after the water?
Billy
Yes.
Matt
Why did you have to do all before the water as well?
Billy
It didn't.
Chris
Okay.
Billy
It didn't. It didn't.
Producer
It didn't.
Billy
It fell over. Almost got blown away.
Matt
Almost.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
Phil caught it.
Billy
Phil caught it. Phil caught it before it blew away.
Shane
But why did you have to keep filling it up?
Matt
And beach trip podcast is nuts.
Billy
Well, I had to. It's a great debate around it.
Matt
The greatest debate. The country needs another debate. We're back to the sand. Somebody wakes but up, please.
Chris
Now he's sleeping.
Billy
Moist driver.
Chris
What was your favorite part from the trip? Of the trip?
Matt
I swear to God, the argument last night was probably my favorite.
Billy
Really?
Matt
I love it. I love a beach. A beach argument. Yeah.
Shane
My favorite. Probably having to catch with my friends.
Billy
Stingray.
Shane
Having a catch with my friends.
Chris
Having a catch is nice.
Guest
Yeah.
Billy
But the stingrays jumping, that was crazy.
Shane
I thought they were showing grace or I floaters.
Chris
I wish those guys.
Shane
I also.
Billy
There was a really great moment and I experienced this personally, but because there's a lot been a lot of like F15s and stuff flying over. We just saw Chinook. That was pretty cool.
Matt
Chinook was nice.
Billy
And then there was a pack of four. What I thought were, that's crazy. Navy planes, Air Force planes ripping down the beach. Turns out there was just pelicans. There's four pelicans.
Shane
Nate thought it was a duck.
Matt
They do it every day.
Billy
It was great.
Matt
They literally thought the pelicans. That was probably my favorite moment. A pelican laying in the water. And they go, yeah, that's a big ass duck. God damn it. Trying so hard not to be racist.
Chris
I liked watching Nate enjoy the beach.
Matt
Nate enjoying the beach is very nice.
Chris
Nate's. It might be pure salt life now
Matt
you think you're solid.
Chris
I was watching the salt life gears.
Billy
He sat down and pissed in front of a family.
Matt
Family photo. Nate's sitting taking the piss in one foot of water.
Chris
That is solid. It's an inch of water. Should have been more obvious.
Shane
Families are probably texting their friends. Like these Somalis.
Matt
How do they figure out, dude, did
Shane
you know that this place is where they filmed Truman Show?
Guest
Yeah.
Chris
You're saying that.
Shane
It's crazy.
Chris
Yeah, it makes sense.
Matt
Makes sense.
Chris
Yeah. As soon as you said, I was like, yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Shane
That's crazy.
Chris
That is pretty nice just to shift gears. True. It's a good gear shift. This is a. Why, this is kind of a wild town.
Matt
It's cool.
Chris
Very cool.
Matt
It was cool. We like it here.
Chris
Yeah, true.
Matt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We won't get.
Chris
We won't say where it is.
Matt
Don't worry, I'll defend you. Yeah, it's more popular. Dude, I think Britney Spears is better than I defend you had him on the ropes.
Chris
The track by track was devastating. The track by track was devastating.
Matt
I lied.
Chris
Listen. On the beach and just going track by track and being like, yeah, domination.
Matt
Yeah. There's no comparison. What's that?
Shane
Agamemnon. How do you say his name?
Guest
Yeah.
Shane
That is Metallica.
Matt
That was the coolest I've ever seen.
Chris
That's where I jump off the train. I don't like Metallica like that. I don't think they're that. If you were to just go, all bands of all time. They are just. In my opinion. Yeah, they're not that good.
Matt
Who's better? Prince?
Shane
Everyone's got opinions, bro.
Chris
I would say, well, you're back to your other part. Now you're Britney Spears over Santana. I would go, yeah, I. I would genuinely. But I really don't like. I don't like metal. That's the thing for me, it's tough. I don't.
Shane
I know.
Billy
But I mean, you can even.
Shane
You don't like and you still have to pick them.
Chris
But yeah, they have more songs that I'd be like, okay, this is kind of a slammer than Prince, obviously. Yeah. But you. Now we're talking sub top, like sub 50. What do you say?
Shane
He's bench 315. You literally need to listen to Kill Them All.
Matt
What did you say? If you could bench 315, you would like Metallica. You have.
Chris
There's way better metal for lifting, dude.
Shane
Kill them all, bro.
Chris
I'm sorry. Metallica's like. It's kind of soft for metal. Metallica is kind of soft from.
Billy
It is, dude.
Chris
It just is. Deftones. Real lifters. Deftones.
Shane
Come on, bro.
Guest
Hey, look.
Matt
Let it be SoCal so bad. You want to be SoCal so bad, bro?
Chris
Guilty as charged.
Shane
I'm a Mighty Muddy Boss Tones guy.
Chris
They rock. I'm just saying I don't think is in the pantheon of, like, the greatest of great bands.
Guest
They're.
Chris
They're super successful.
Shane
More power to them. Moscow, Moscow.
Chris
CIA put them there. CIA put them there. And then we did Russia. We use them to do Russia, you
Matt
are coming up with. CIA put them there.
Chris
No, I didn't.
Shane
That's.
Chris
That was a fact. Why did the CIA selected.
Shane
Why did the CIA put them there?
Chris
Someone was telling me that literally on the.
Matt
No, we just said that.
Chris
So who said that?
Matt
Drunk Chris said that. Yeah, Well, I think that. He said.
Chris
I think he's onto something with that.
Matt
No, I mean, it's a fair choice. We brought bands to Moscow, obviously. The CIA probably did that.
Chris
Exactly. But they're kind of. I said, you're saying they're responsible for that.
Billy
If you want to foment. If you want to foment unrest. If you want to foment unrest in a communist,
Matt
you drop what there.
Billy
You enter the sandman.
Matt
You enter salmon. You go, fellas, I know. He goes, what do you think of the eastern block?
Shane
And then you said, this Bulls on Parade would probably do just as good as.
Chris
I'm saying there was a bunch of bands. Yeah.
Shane
And the two agents.
Chris
The rap part would have kind of blew it.
Shane
Yes, it would, obviously.
Chris
But there was other bands that could have rocked Moscow. That was a captive audience.
Matt
So other bands. Other bands did do that.
Chris
Who else?
Producer
Rock.
Matt
It was a bunch of bands, did that concert.
Chris
Who else?
Matt
But entertainment. Entertainment was the moment they met.
Billy
The moment.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
I think Sabbath was on that.
Guest
Really?
Matt
I think a bunch of bands.
Shane
Russians are metal.
Chris
Gigantic Russians are metal.
Matt
But when you put Metallica Enter Sandman in Moscow, that rocks.
Chris
I've said before, that video.
Matt
I promise, I challenge anyone to find me a better concert moment than that.
Chris
That. I mean, it's. Historically, it's amazing.
Matt
So that puts them, in my mind, in the pantheon of rock titans.
Shane
Yes, obviously, dude.
Chris
In terms of, like, bands I could put on and be like, damn, these guys rock. I can listen to all their songs. You listen to two Metallica songs, you're done for a month.
Shane
Bench 315.
Chris
Come on, dude.
Billy
I don't know, man.
Matt
They got some good ones. That's nasty.
Billy
Nothing else matters.
Chris
We can do the Presidential Fitness Test right now. I'd whoop that ass.
Matt
I don't run. That's my president.
Shane
I don't run.
Chris
I'm talking weekends.
Matt
We can run.
Chris
We can swim. You do a lot of stuff.
Matt
I don't run from nothing.
Chris
I'm just saying, dude. I'm just saying, like, there's so much.
Matt
If you listen to Metallica, you'll never run, dude.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
You'll go, dude, I face death, dude. I'll fight.
Chris
Don't fight.
Matt
If I listen to you, too, I'm sprinting. Like this.
Chris
That was a true point.
Matt
You're gonna go, oh, my God, there's a moth. Metallica. You go, dude, somebody's entering my house.
Shane
I'm gonna fight him and then kill myself.
Chris
Now, if you listen to Metallica say, someone's in my apartment. What the.
Matt
You say, I'm gonna stand my ground in my apartment. Mom, dad, get down. You gotta go to school.
Chris
I just don't think. But that video is sick. And that video was the first time I sort of got. I went, damn, this kind of rocks. Yeah, but that's it for me. It's like, if I'm chilling, the last thing I'm thinking about is putting on James Hetfield in large.
Matt
Nobody. Nobody. If you're chilling and popping Metallica, you weirdo. For sure. But it's designed for what it's.
Shane
That's like being like fireworks.
Matt
It's fireworks. You're like, I'm not gonna chill and just light off a firework. If you're a beast, of course you're not. The. Honestly, the exact correlations of the same guys who chill and put on Metallica. Chill and go, I'm gonna let a
Shane
firework at 2:45 in the afternoon.
Matt
But when you need fireworks, you go, bro, that's fireworks.
Chris
I think, see, now we're talking about lifting rap. I think rap's better for lifting Metallica. If I'm gonna get pumped, I'm going rap.
Shane
I go, I can't listen to rap anymore.
Matt
It's because you. You're, like, rotted to the core with racism. It's just so deep. It's just. It's got.
Shane
So speak to me anymore as a
Chris
you till I collapse on the lifting playlist. You're not doing till I collapse. No, come on, bro.
Shane
I'm not a real slim guy.
Chris
Come on, dude.
Matt
Until I collapse, you keep doing anything he is doing.
Shane
Rap stopped probably 24, 25. And I was just like, man, when
Chris
were you benching 315? You're trying to get off the floor.
Shane
I would say three years ago, maybe.
Chris
You did the PAs first. Dude, I was firing back.
Matt
I'm just here, pure usda, no chips on this table. The only reason that was a good
Shane
one, the only reason I left is for Oklahoma drills. We'll do Oklahoma drills. And that's the fitness test.
Matt
Come on.
Chris
This is what you do. You do. You do a bandwidth this wide and go. I could beat you with that. It's like, cool, what I'm talking. Let's run the gamut. Let's do The Olympics. I'm talking about, let's go crazy. Let's spread it. Let's go.
Matt
Let's go crazy. You have.
Shane
Dude, you're talking to me me right now. You have someone who's so on your ass and you have no idea. Hoss is like the Russian in Rocky right now. Just came third place in a bodybuilding competition. That's your true enemy, not my enemy.
Chris
We built. Me and him build each other up. I'm not like CIA. I wouldn't go there. I wouldn't go tear Russia apart. He burnt a bodybuilding man. He shredded. And I'll still be him.
Matt
I was on the beach.
Producer
I know.
Shane
That's crazy.
Guest
Hello.
Chris
You threw the PAs.
Matt
I didn't throw any PA. You did throw PAs first. You started the 315 bench. When you're losing an argument that bad though, is crazy. You lost that argument so badly. What? Dude, you blew it, dude. It was Metallica versus you too. And I. I heard you losing it. Chris. I heard. Chris jumped in screaming.
Chris
I had to.
Matt
I had to call downstairs. I said, what the is going on?
Shane
I was behind enemy lines. You went to sleep?
Matt
Yeah. You retreated. No, I went upstairs. Don't ever hit me again.
Producer
Don't ever.
Matt
You retreated on guys trip. You hit me again. Now listen twice now. I'm gonna join, man. We're gonna literally shave your head. We're gonna humiliate you.
Shane
Kill myself.
Matt
You will. You will if don't make me join Matt, dude, We'll make you die. Go ahead. I went upstairs and I laid down nice. And I heard screaming downstairs.
Shane
And I was like, I don't say
Matt
a lot of people. That was. It was unbelievably loud.
Shane
We're talking loudly.
Matt
Like people were screaming. Once I heard the Kiss man. Once I heard the Kiss man go from the bar to the couch, dude.
Billy
I was like, yeah.
Matt
I had to call and go, what's the situation? I would call downstairs a guitar. I called downstairs go, yo, what the are you screaming about? He goes, okay, this is what I'm saying is. Is you to a guitar forward band. And I was like, yeah, it's my favorite argument I've ever heard. That almost got you out of the room. I almost came downstairs 1am Someone going,
Chris
you do is not a guitar forward band.
Matt
And somebody else be like you. No, dude, that's what I love, dude.
Chris
My favorite part was genuinely put up the compilation. I have no idea if edgy go.
Matt
Here we go.
Chris
Check it out. And it was just like, come on edge. And I even jumped Ahead. It was like. That made me laugh. I was like, damn it, Edge.
Guest
It.
Chris
I was just assuming. I'm like, this guy's got a shred.
Billy
I didn't realize the Edge had solo projects.
Matt
Oh, really?
Chris
Wait, those are actually fire.
Matt
I listen to Edge all the time. You think you know me, dude.
Chris
I stay edging. Yeah, that one. That really sunk my battleship.
Billy
I was like, cap, is it acoustic or is he.
Chris
It's just, like, top 10. You would think, like, top 10 moments. Shred, shred. Shredded, dude. I pulled the first one on was for real. Like, just a try. There's like a D chord. Like, I'm like, okay, here we go. Hit again. And it was just like.
Guest
He.
Chris
It was just bad.
Billy
Did he have the yellow, like, translucent Oakley's on or.
Shane
No, that's bomb.
Chris
That's mono, bro.
Billy
I thought the Edge did that, too.
Shane
I think he just had sunnies.
Chris
Pono would not allow him to wear.
Shane
Yeah,
Chris
right. He'd be feeding the world. He'd be like, actually, that's my thing. Back up.
Matt
I just. Just sending pictures of you two to the group. If you Google pictures of you, too, you go, these are literally the lamest dudes. Yeah. Of all time. Cold Coldplay butt. You too.
Guest
That they're.
Chris
They've been disqualified. Their last album, they had emojis in the title of their last.
Matt
I swear to God, bro. Recently. Sounds like you, too, to me. Early Coldplay.
Chris
I go, all right.
Guest
I.
Matt
With that.
Shane
Coldplay's been YouTube now there.
Chris
Do you ever listen to Coldplay's newest. Newest album?
Guest
Them?
Shane
Yeah, every day.
Chris
I actually probably listen to it the most out of anyone here.
Billy
It's.
Chris
It's real funny. Like, you listen to it. You're like, whoa.
Matt
What? Pick your phone up, dude.
Chris
Yo, let's listen to you.
Billy
The Edge.
Matt
Oh, you can't.
Shane
Always a worthy man.
Matt
It's magnetic to the table.
Shane
It's a magnet.
Chris
Oh, here he goes. Oh, yeah.
Billy
He wore, like, the Under Armour. Cold gear. Like, cap. Like, head cap.
Chris
I don't know anything about you, too. That's my problem. I argued for them, and I don't know much about them.
Guest
Them.
Chris
I honestly forgot their guitarist's name.
Billy
I don't think it's the Edge.
Chris
It's just edge.
Billy
Yeah. Yeah. If you say the edge, it's.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
Uncover your O. Yeah.
Shane
Thank you.
Guest
Thank you.
Shane
Ever see this videos?
Matt
Thank you, African Rose,
Chris
man.
Shane
Let's switch gears and just get what's
Producer
going on in the world.
Chris
That's a funny part. It's a victory. I have no idea what's going on.
Shane
Doesn't matter. I was in the Wawa and this kid was lowballing on Facebook, Marketplace and hit him with can we buckle down and get serious? And it's the greatest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Chris
That's nice. What was he trying to buy? You had no idea.
Shane
Pickup truck.
Chris
Yeah, we buckled down and get serious on this.
Shane
It's also what I do. I just hit Marketplace and hauling it.
Chris
What are you getting on Marketplace?
Shane
Nothing. I just look at it like porn. Yeah.
Chris
Dang. That's dad. You got Dad's jeans. I know. He stays on Marketplace.
Matt
He's gunning.
Chris
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Matt
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Chris
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Matt
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Producer
Come on.
Chris
No. Oh, yeah. It's the same weekend out.
Guest
It's the same weekend.
Matt
Seven through eight. We'll find it. Here we go. August 8th. Charleston.
Shane
O' Connor's group.
Billy
I'm looking at the edge.
Matt
Let me see the edge.
Chris
Let's see this guy.
Shane
Look at him, dude.
Matt
He doesn't look like a douchebag.
Billy
I thought it was Under Armour. I thought it was.
Matt
I thought it Was a cold gear next look.
Billy
I mean, but he actually just has the.
Matt
All right, hold on.
Billy
Beanie of all time.
Chris
That's. That's a pub legend, bro. That's a pub.
Matt
I take it back.
Guest
Okay.
Chris
Edge is a man.
Matt
I haven't seen him in a while. He does look sick as. Back with the.
Billy
Yeah, now that's good. But what do you evolve into?
Chris
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know he's gonna be such a beast.
Matt
Bono still.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
Feed the world, bro.
Shane
I literally don't like Bono as a dude.
Matt
Yeah, this man. Dude. You two over Metallica is nuts.
Chris
I'm saying what I'd rather listen to. I swear to God, if I had to do YouTube's hits like the two songs that I like versus Metallica, I would genuinely pick the U2 song one. Still haven't found what I'm looking for. Yeah, there's my only two you two songs. I know, but I like those songs. 1.
Billy
Streets have no Names, Streets Out.
Chris
They played on the beach. It kind of stunk. On the beach.
Matt
Yeah. We. We went.
Chris
One. One is. One is.
Matt
We went.
Billy
You can't listen to you two under attack.
Chris
Ah, yeah, true. It's a private matter.
Billy
You can listen to Metallica under attack. I will.
Matt
You can go. I defend this with my life.
Billy
Yeah, yeah. It's. It's literally fighting your interlocutors. Yeah, true.
Matt
Going. Going from Chris. Going from sitting on the beach, beach blasting For Whom the Bell Tolls during a thunderstorm at night on the beach in Florida. Lightning. I'm with you like crazy.
Billy
I'm with you.
Matt
Going inside and hearing people say you two is better. I mean, what are we talking about?
Billy
It's gonna ruffle your feathers.
Matt
What do we do? Nate, you were out there for that.
Chris
It was incredible.
Matt
If I was playing Sunday Bloody Sunday during that, you would have said I was, man, it's a big ass duck.
Shane
I mean, realistically, I was inside the horse all night.
Matt
You were in the horse?
Shane
I was in the horse all night until once the sun went down, I broke out of the horse.
Matt
What did I tell you today? What? When you and I stood on the beach and I said, I'm. I'm Agamemnon. And I said, tonight. Tonight we leave the horse.
Shane
I was in the horse.
Matt
We were on the beach. I said, don't worry, we're gonna get them tonight. And what did we do? Can you admit, yo, I'm Odysseus? Can you admit, no, I'm Odysseus. You admit we got him in there. I felt the horse.
Billy
Hold on.
Matt
Can we like. Did we burn Troy tonight?
Shane
We burned Troy. Yeah.
Chris
I lost on the beach. However. November rain is. I would still argue that's better choice.
Shane
Burn, brother.
Chris
You almost lost, bro. Easiest argument.
Shane
You know, many soldiers almost died in that horse waiting for it. Drug and Detroit.
Chris
I will say, look, I was bleeding. See that loss. I can see that loss.
Shane
And in the horse.
Chris
See that lost. But I just think like, like, dialogues like this are really important to me, actually.
Matt
Love YouTube. That's a YouTube, guys.
Chris
Dialogues like this is what the country needs. People just come together. Hey, I know we don't agree on everything. Doesn't mean I don't like you as a person. Billy's clips.
Matt
Billy's. Why such a for real. You're Fuentes. You're Hunter Biden.
Guest
Yeah.
Chris
A lot of my kids friends are listening to this Metallica. I'm just trying to get a hand around. I'm trying to figure out what it's about.
Matt
It's interesting.
Shane
That was crazy.
Matt
Apac. I know we're talking Gavin now, but Apac. Wow. I never even thought of that.
Shane
That's interesting.
Matt
It's interesting.
Shane
It's interesting that you say that.
Matt
2020.
Shane
I saw a dude down here with the Trump 2828 flag. That's powerful.
Matt
That's literally the last Mohegan. Trump 2028. You have to be the dumbest guy alive. I mean, he's there with like two knives. No, it's.
Chris
It's like. It's like third floor balcony to the ground. Trump banner.
Matt
He was there last time we were here.
Shane
Yeah, he has 2028.
Chris
I don't know. He had just a G. Like. No, it was. It was.
Shane
It's Trump.
Chris
250. 250 years. Then it's thank you.
Shane
Boomers are hard on the 250 love right now.
Matt
It's wild. 250 love is sick.
Shane
They were also there for the bicentennial too, which is sick.
Matt
I do love 250.
Chris
250 just hits.
Shane
You got to put a sticker on your car. Love my dad put a sticker on everyone's car. 250 and you got to get an sob sticker.
Chris
No, it is.
Matt
I might get a terrace hunting permit.
Shane
That's tough.
Matt
Yeah, I like that.
Guest
Actually.
Matt
South of the border, Terror's hunting permit still being Trump.
Chris
Build is nice.
Matt
They lost all their swag. Who Trump dogs?
Billy
What?
Guest
Yeah.
Shane
No, just like trying to get us into wars. It's like terrorist hunting permit was sick. Now they got nothing they were.
Matt
They were coming off. They're firing also, you know, they should have done.
Chris
Is taking a break from war. That would have helped. They've like, chilled for a little bit. Maybe you could get stirred back up. If you're in war all the time, you're like, oh, God damn it.
Matt
Here we go. Yeah, that's a great thing. I never thought of it like that.
Shane
That's why we had to have gone.
Chris
I mean, it's just.
Matt
It is important to have conversations.
Shane
Open the straights, you crazy bastards.
Matt
Praise be to Allah. Hit him with a Tyson. Praise be to Allah.
Shane
Crazy.
Matt
I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah. Easter. Tyson became Muslim for a minute.
Shane
That's sick.
Matt
He was fired up.
Shane
Damn.
Matt
I want to eat your children. Lennox Lewis jabbed him to death. Lennox destroyed him.
Guest
He did.
Shane
Can't bring kids into the equation.
Billy
I forgot about Lennox Lewis.
Matt
This was a legend. Yeah, Legend in the pub.
Chris
True, true. He's probably dragged with Edge. For real.
Billy
More than likely. Yeah.
Matt
Tyson's obviously Metallica. Yeah, that's understandable. That's entertainment. That's what that energy is.
Billy
Lennox Lewis is November rain.
Matt
No, obviously. Who's better all time. Obviously. Who's better all the time?
Chris
Yeah, yeah, I'll take that.
Matt
Tyson or Lennox Lewis?
Chris
I think that's good. Common ground.
Matt
Yeah, yeah, but with just jabs.
Chris
Volume, volume.
Billy
Say eight minute tracks.
Matt
Here's the third guitar solo.
Shane
You guys love this, right? Excuse me while I beat my wife.
Chris
You know, I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna look up Edge guitar solos all night now. Yeah, I'm gonna find you're gonna have a five minute once. Dude, he's. I. I gave him like. Like two solid minutes and I was
Shane
like, you should buy his signature Stratocaster. He has a signature.
Matt
Shout out to Marcus King for selling the debate.
Shane
Obviously a professional musician.
Matt
I know your brother.
Chris
Shout out to him for sure.
Matt
I know your brother. Tom said differently.
Chris
We're two too, obviously. No, we got. We got some.
Matt
Tom being included with those other three is preposterous.
Chris
Okay, fair enough. But Billy caught him.
Matt
You know that the records are.
Chris
I'm very. When it comes to.
Matt
I'll probably put you on in November, Marine.
Chris
For sure.
Matt
Yes, obviously.
Shane
Tom's told me that's like his favorite song.
Chris
He's. But he's a musical fictionado.
Guest
For sure.
Matt
Yeah, but the guys we called are actual. Yeah, the. Actually, It's.
Chris
It's only 2. Verse 1. 2v1.
Billy
You think?
Chris
And. And two of the guys were led by Three. That was leading. That was leading the witness.
Matt
Marcus. Marcus was led the.
Chris
Fair enough, fair enough. Third wasn't.
Shane
Third was third.
Matt
Literally. I open for you too.
Chris
Yeah, fair, fair, fair. Third is not lead.
Billy
Do you think the edge.
Chris
So it's one verse.
Billy
One. Do you think the edge is big enough?
Matt
This is very good. We can keep that.
Billy
Do you think the edge has, like, a historian? Like a specific edge Historian?
Chris
An edge, Lord, probably.
Billy
No,
Shane
it's.
Matt
Matt's gonna start uploading solos to YouTube.
Shane
Edgelord69.
Matt
King of the edge. Lord, you got to make a YouTube channel. Edgelord69.
Shane
Just start clipping.
Chris
Make him be like, oh, guys, this next technique he does is actually really kind of cra. Very.
Matt
Yeah, I like depth in my music and range. Layers, layers, layers. Depth, range.
Chris
Yeah. Little dissonance here and there.
Matt
Love dissonance.
Chris
I love distance.
Matt
Metallic, right? You're right.
Chris
That's like listening to a diesel engine. You're just like, okay, it's punching a
Shane
guy in the face getting work done.
Matt
You got that diesel running.
Shane
That's getting work done.
Billy
It's tractor pull.
Matt
You're talking about making LBZ punch a guy in the face.
Chris
No, I'm talking about telling a woman how you feel.
Matt
Where?
Chris
Huh?
Matt
Which. Which one does that?
Chris
That's you too, dude.
Shane
No, I proposed to Gianna to kill them all.
Chris
Now just friend. Now you're front.
Shane
I did ride the lightning came on.
Chris
So you marry me like Metallica. That's the craziest thing. Never, bro.
Shane
I've been to seven of their concerts.
Guest
Me too.
Matt
This is what it's all about, dude. This is Beach Trip 2022.
Chris
This is guys having fun.
Billy
It's so great.
Shane
Conversations, like, these are important.
Chris
You know what's up? That I was thinking about literally just the other day, and it's kind of like, damning. I don't know if I should even unleash this. And it's like, not. I guess it's not. Well, I'm saying it's probably kind of dumb, but, like, you know, people pay for testosterone. Like, it's like something people. It's like, even women, too, will, like, get.
Shane
It helps launching this.
Chris
Nobody buys. Like, if you were to buy estrogen, what'd you say?
Shane
You're soft launching this. Yeah, Beyonce.
Chris
No, I'm just trying. I'm just trying to make sure. I'm trying to organize it right now, establish things.
Matt
Dude, this is important. We have conversations.
Shane
Yeah, good point. This is a very important conversation. People do buy.
Chris
Hey, he could do. It's little bro man, he's gonna do what he does.
Billy
You're saying you can't buy.
Chris
No, I'm saying you. You wouldn't buy estroge. You wouldn't.
Shane
You wouldn't like D1 crash.
Chris
It wouldn't make people buy. People pay good money for testosterone.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Chris
It's the essence of a man.
Shane
What does it cost?
Chris
I don't know.
Shane
I don't either.
Chris
But I'm saying people pay money for testosterone. You would pay money to get estrogen out.
Shane
Girls are actually paying money for testosterone.
Guest
I know.
Chris
This is how. That's how damning. I'm like, that's really bad.
Shane
It's almost like guys rule and girls drool.
Chris
That's kind. I mean, scientifically proven.
Matt
Yeah.
Chris
If you were to inject estrogen, you'd have, like, problems. Yeah, you'd be.
Shane
I think there are dudes.
Matt
We've had problems here.
Shane
Michigan plates.
Billy
Someone's had to need estrogen, though, right? Someone's had to need estrogen.
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
There's dudes who take tea and their estrogen levels go to zero. I had to get estrogen because I had too much tea.
Guest
Yeah.
Chris
My tea was super high when I was 10.
Matt
Yeah. My tea was too high. And they're like, dude, you're gonna do something.
Shane
And I think some girls do have, like, hormone problems.
Matt
I got waist. Well, I got my blood taste. Talking about, dude. And they were like, dude, your. Your te is at.
Billy
I believe they said that.
Producer
Yeah.
Matt
No, they said, no te. You need less estrogen high.
Billy
We need to balance what's going on in your.
Matt
They said, you're too jacked.
Billy
You're about to o on T. Yes.
Matt
High E. Is that the reason you keep winning arguments about against your girlfriend, Chris?
Billy
The reason you can't hear the damp and range of you two is the
Matt
T. And I said, can you please play entertainment T. Jack.
Billy
Yeah. Yeah.
Matt
It is obviously. Obviously high Te music Metallic Low T music Ways too well.
Billy
It be like tr.
Shane
He made a concert dedicated to AIDS for it.
Matt
One of them's high te. One of them's high te. One.
Chris
AIDS is high te. Hold on. Getting AIDS is high.
Matt
Getting a. Getting.
Shane
Receiving AIDS might not be giving AIDS is high Ted.
Chris
AIDS is high te. Is high te.
Matt
AIDS is high. Giving AIDS is high tea.
Chris
Getting AIDS AIDS is high tea.
Matt
There's only one way to get it.
Chris
It's high.
Matt
There's only one way to give it. You got to have the highest defense
Chris
is top of the mountain tea.
Matt
AIDS is definitely the highest tea.
Chris
So we're right where we started.
Shane
I'll give you that.
Chris
We were right where we started. You too, dude.
Matt
You too. Is low.
Chris
That's the highest tea possible. Damn.
Matt
Metallica's hot tea.
Chris
He was trying to vanquish the highest. Highest T disease.
Matt
Exactly. That's girl.
Chris
No way.
Matt
Saw the highest.
Chris
He wants to party.
Matt
He saw the highest tea. No, dude, he saw the aids. He saw aids. He was like, yo, that's high T. I got. These guys are partying too hard. There's got to be a way to make money off.
Chris
Couldn't party for a while. He wanted to party back on.
Matt
Oh, he wanted that.
Chris
Dude, the party's on, Dude, If a stops, party's on.
Shane
He was looking for a cure to Fauci's disease.
Matt
True. You dudes fouch.
Shane
Yeah, dude.
Chris
Metallica, CIA plants. They basically started the war in Ukraine.
Matt
Chris loves the war.
Shane
That's crazy.
Billy
I don't love it.
Matt
What a disaster. I don't love it.
Chris
But that's crazy.
Shane
That's what they use together.
Chris
Say that.
Guest
I can dance, man.
Matt
I'm.
Chris
I'm getting attacked. I can dance.
Matt
After what you did to Billy last night? That was it. I mean, I could hear him screaming, dude, I heard what you did to the boy.
Chris
What did I do?
Matt
I went upstairs and Billy got mogged, dude.
Chris
I saw a flaw in the argument.
Matt
I saw a floor, and I smiled in his face and went to bed.
Chris
No, I was saying good night. Genuinely.
Matt
Spud told me you went and went to bed.
Chris
I was tired.
Matt
I think it's a great move, by the way. I commended you when the three of us were outside. When you, me, and Spud sat outside this morning and he told me what you did, I was like. Like, hats off. That's the ultimate. That's a knockout. Leaving an argument when someone's yelling at you and going and going to bed is a knockout.
Chris
I don't think I was trying to do that. You committed me on a move on the beach. I didn't know I was making a move.
Matt
I respect the moves.
Chris
I do. It might be subconscious.
Billy
Yeah. It comes naturally.
Matt
My favorite moves are just being like, dude, you see how I can admit when I'm wrong and you can't? Anytime someone proves you wrong and you go, see how I said yes? You're right on this?
Billy
This.
Matt
You haven't said that once.
Chris
Well, it's a trap. Because you're like, yeah, I do. And you're like, now I'm stuck.
Shane
You're arguing about something different now. That's what I'm saying. I was taking on machine gun fire. And you went to sleep, dude, I
Matt
couldn't defend you anymore. I was also. You don't even realize this. I had a third drone. I'm going. Chris is back there screaming about.
Billy
I was not.
Matt
I'm going, Chris.
Shane
Chris was in the bullpen. I was waiting to get him out.
Billy
I was on the porch having a great time.
Matt
Or at least you have before that screaming.
Chris
Bill by the table being like, he started the top 1,000.
Matt
We're talking about you doing your timelines.
Chris
Was I not out on the porch
Billy
with you having a conversation about.
Chris
That was way after.
Billy
No, it wasn't.
Shane
We were having the argument.
Chris
What do you mean?
Billy
The whole time, when you guys got into this that's okay thing, I walked away from it. I went.
Matt
You went like this.
Billy
I got down to Atlantis.
Chris
The original. The original argument that was my favorite is when Tommy was making the risotto. Chris came in. You're like, you make a Rush mushroom risotto, and Thomas goes, yeah, and just walks away.
Matt
My favorite. That was. That was. That was. Now, look, this is one of the finest moments of Mike. I like to stir it up. When you leaned over and talked to him and went, what are you making? Risotto, Obviously. I know Tommy. Sure. However you say.
Shane
Are you.
Chris
You enthusiastic?
Billy
Are you making a wild mushroom risotto?
Chris
You were. I was telling me a cranky response.
Matt
Now, when you did that, I. I was behind you, and I pushed you back in towards him, which made me very happy. I was right behind you. I was out of frame. Pushed you in. I knew you're being stage.
Chris
I knew you're being enthusiastic about it. I was like. It was enthusiastic, but, you know, Tommy
Matt
was gonna be furious. Somebody was.
Chris
He thought you were coming. He thought you were. Yeah. Where's my dinner?
Matt
When someone's making dinner and you come in hammering, you making the risotto, I don't think it's wrong.
Chris
It was.
Matt
But I knew you would take it.
Billy
I was. I was like, that's awesome.
Matt
It was awesome. You didn't say, that's awesome. You literally said, you making the risotto and pushing you into that made me feel very good.
Chris
Well, when I.
Billy
When I entered it in to be sent out, I. I thought it was.
Matt
I knew your mentality.
Chris
That was my smile before leaving.
Guest
Same thing.
Chris
I was like, good night, everybody.
Billy
I had no intention of.
Matt
Nobody would have thought speaking down to
Billy
the wild mushroom risotto. It's great.
Shane
I mean, it's hard, but these are conversations we have to have
Chris
by the way.
Matt
By the way, these are conversations we literally contractually have to have. So we're doing it. Literally.
Chris
It's very important we have these conversations.
Matt
Personally, I think it's funny.
Billy
It is.
Matt
I would like to hear this argument. You know. Yeah, this one, this entire podcast. It's a good ide to hear this.
Chris
Yeah, it's a good argument. Then you can right or left.
Shane
It just has to.
Matt
Right or left. Not a lot of guys tell like it is like we are right now.
Chris
I agree. Totally agree.
Matt
Very man, that's a big ass duck. The pelican fool.
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Matt
Hello, love. Anyway, we're back.
Chris
Yeah, we're fired up.
Matt
I never thought I went into it, I saw a meme that said Elliot Page was playing Achilles.
Shane
Yeah, Rage.
Matt
So right when I saw it, I was like, why is Achilles running like that? Why is Achilles acting like a Achilles gets speared right away?
Chris
And I was like, oh, you thought
Matt
it was Achilles in the opening scene? Literally while I was watching, I was like, damn, dude, that is a terrible portrayal.
Chris
So who was Elliot Page actually playing? Just a random soldier.
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah. And it was actually. Truthfully. And I'm gonna get called a lib for this. I liked it.
Chris
It was decent.
Matt
I liked Elliot Page in Hades as well. Liked it.
Chris
She's in the underworld.
Matt
Sue me. Sue me.
Shane
This conversation court. Strong and powerful.
Matt
I liked it.
Shane
It was strong, power, powerful.
Chris
It was just enough casting controversy. Too much. Too much would have been a problem.
Matt
Nah.
Chris
Yeah, you need a little casting.
Shane
Astro World in the beginning was Astro
Matt
World pissed me off. That was crazy.
Shane
They literally had his neck tattoos in the directly into what?
Matt
I thought Achilles pissed me off.
Shane
What?
Matt
I thought it was that and then Achilles.
Shane
I was like, this Damon looks like a hairless chimp. High day.
Chris
Nice.
Matt
Damon's definitely Metallica.
Shane
Rip.
Matt
He's more Metallica than you.
Shane
It's craziness.
Chris
Yeah, it's fair. I gotta see it to form my own opinion.
Shane
But I paid you too.
Matt
Other page you do.
Chris
I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say that. It is what it is, I'll say Pattinson.
Matt
Or beyond that, definitely Metallica.
Shane
He's Metallica.
Chris
You can't just claim all the guys you like. That's just. I didn't. I didn't see the movie.
Matt
That was one of the greatest things I've ever heard about it. I'm gonna name something. You tell me.
Chris
It was YouTube.
Matt
You tell me. Metallica or YouTube. Football.
Chris
I'll give you Metallica for that.
Guest
Okay.
Matt
Okay, we're done.
Guest
Fair.
Matt
It's the end of the game.
Chris
That's fine.
Matt
Skateboarding Metallica. Okay. I'm trying to think of something else that's cool as
Shane
fishing.
Chris
That could go.
Matt
You too. Deep sea Choppy.
Chris
Dude, that's. Sorry, but here's what you're doing. You're narrowing the dimensions.
Matt
No, I'm just naming the coolest possible possible.
Chris
You don't want choppy. You want choppy waters, bro.
Matt
It's a hell of a story. We live to tell the tale. The coolest dude, you guys don't want choppy waters decided will favor us.
Chris
You guys, if I was deep sea fishing, that's you too, man. If I'm on. If I'm on choppy waters, I don't want Metallica playing at all.
Matt
Yes. It's the only thing that's going to save you,
Chris
Cap. As captain of the ship, I would say. Turn that racket off. I need to focus.
Matt
Captain of what?
Chris
The proverbial ship.
Guest
On.
Chris
On choppy water. You're the one asking me Edge.
Matt
Lord.
Chris
You were asking me about it. I'm saying. Well, clearly I'm. I'm piloting or captaining.
Matt
Yeah.
Shane
All right.
Matt
But you skateboarding and football or Metallica.
Chris
I would say, yeah, for sure.
Shane
What would you say?
Chris
Come on. Metallica, obviously.
Matt
Okay, these are the six. The Grove. The Grove.
Chris
That's talent.
Shane
If you put on YouTube at the Grove, they throw the up.
Chris
No, they won, bro. If you put on YouTube one of YouTube biggest hits. Yeah, bro.
Matt
If you put on one of the
Chris
biggest hits, dude, there'd be ladies there.
Matt
There'd be some groves also pretty docile. They could. They're pretty face. Or on heroin.
Chris
If you put on a YouTube banger, Sunday, bloody Sunday at the Grove, they're gonna go.
Matt
But you put on. You put on Enter Sandman, Beer hills, going nuts.
Shane
Yeah, you're hearing it from Shane's dad's house.
Billy
True.
Chris
But then again, you're with your kids, you're like, all right, man. This devil music's kind of devil music, man. I'm not. I'm not into that stuff.
Shane
I heard devil music.
Chris
It's not for the family. Rock and rolls, Devils, Metallica, more so, you know, it's devil music.
Billy
Well, it's.
Matt
You know, that's all just bringing up a good point.
Shane
I mean, this is a crush conversation you have to have.
Matt
We love Christ. He's bringing up a good point. Yeah. It's an important conversation.
Chris
I don't want to tap the ultimate boss, but.
Matt
Yeah, you're saying bye, boss. True. Jesus, Jesus, Metallica or you too?
Chris
You too. Feed the world.
Matt
Feed the world.
Shane
Launder money through the worlds.
Guest
Huh?
Matt
When he flipped the table.
Chris
That's talca.
Matt
When his heart. His mom getting nailed to the cross. Was that you two or Metallica?
Shane
You're saying?
Chris
I'm being honest. That's got to be talca for.
Producer
Yeah.
Chris
If you're getting.
Shane
Nothing else matters. Nothing else matters.
Chris
I don't know. He might not like Metallica. Jesus is like Metallica.
Shane
Jesus loves everybody.
Chris
That's what I'm saying. I can't make that up. I can't speak for.
Billy
Yeah, I think you two is more likely Jesus lovers than Metallica as banned.
Matt
Yeah, true Jesus lovers.
Billy
Yeah.
Shane
Yeah.
Matt
Like, they're Catholic, not Catholics. They're weird Protestants.
Shane
I think you two is Catholic.
Matt
No, no, no. I mean the people that would support you two over Metallica.
Shane
Yeah, true, dude.
Matt
The Crusades. The Crusades.
Chris
Metallica or the majority of Catholics are old ladies.
Billy
Irish Catholic. Aren't they not fellas.
Matt
The Crusades. Is that Metallica or you too, King Baldwin?
Chris
That's. Yes. I don't know. That's a tough one. The Crusades not have like Metallica speaking about lifting. That's. Dude, that's medieval Christianity.
Billy
I thought the French. I thought the French started the Crusades.
Shane
I work out to the music that plays when that sex scene happens in the kingdom of heaven. Yeah, they took it from talking about
Chris
the actual Crusades, not the movie Hannibal actor. They wouldn't have liked that crap, dude. The medieval priesthood.
Shane
Like they heard it. They would have thought they went to Hel Heaven.
Guest
Metallica, dude.
Shane
Yes.
Chris
This is a far. This is devil music. No, it was a turkey.
Shane
They started calling it devil music because they wouldn't give people a cut of their stuff. They said, oh, this is for the devil.
Guest
Guys.
Shane
Don't listen to this, dude.
Chris
It's literally metal. Metal. Metal is. If you had to pick. Okay. If you had to pick the official music for devil worshiping, it would be metal.
Billy
Yeah, but I don't think. I don't think Metallica Is really.
Shane
They're not dumb.
Chris
They're not even really metal.
Matt
Most they just rock.
Billy
They soft.
Chris
They do rock.
Matt
Yeah.
Chris
Soft metal.
Matt
King Baldwin. Metallica or YouTube?
Guest
I don't know.
Matt
I I Leper that conquered Jerusalem.
Chris
Yeah, that's met. That's Metallica. I'm just saying.
Guest
I don't know.
Chris
If he were a medieval mind. I don't. I think would have been like turn. What the is this?
Matt
I'm not even going to pretend to understand. Grasping the getting into a medieval mind.
Chris
I've been reading about medieval mind.
Guest
Mind.
Matt
I can't even pretend to get into it.
Shane
Who wrote it?
Chris
What'd he say?
Guest
Who wrote it?
Chris
Who wrote what?
Shane
The medieval mind.
Chris
No, no, it's not a book. I'm saying I've been reading books about the medieval mind.
Matt
Who wrote them?
Producer
Huh?
Matt
Who wrote him the books?
Chris
What was the guy's name? I don't have to. It's in my room right there. I can grab it. But get it. I'll get it right now.
Shane
I have full control over you. Look at how I command you. Bend to my will. Metallica.
Matt
Oh, yeah.
Shane
Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Don't you worry about that.
Billy
Yes.
Shane
I've been in the horse for way too long. Brothers.
Matt
That you too is catholic.
Billy
Yeah, yeah.
Matt
You two is actually Catholic.
Billy
And I bet once they got down and were fighting in Jerusalem.
Chris
Charles Taylor, second boy.
Shane
Put that on the table.
Chris
It's a good book.
Billy
What does matter?
Chris
It's bad thick boy.
Matt
Charles Taylor.
Chris
Sounds like a Protestant secular age.
Guest
You could be.
Matt
Sounds like a proddy.
Guest
But yeah.
Chris
He's talking about the medieval mind. Very porous. Whereas we're kind of buffered.
Shane
I'm reading a book on vaxes right now.
Chris
Honestly.
Shane
Reading a book on vaxes.
Chris
How's that going?
Shane
Pretty good. Finished it.
Chris
What did it say?
Shane
Know what I did? That was good.
Matt
I'm reading it.
Shane
Suzanne Humphrey's book. She was on Rogan. I read it and had audiobook going at the same time. It was awesome. You ever do that?
Chris
No, but I heard that.
Matt
It's sweet.
Shane
Can I ask you really trying to pay attention.
Matt
Yes.
Shane
It's awesome.
Chris
What's.
Shane
It's like you're in school with your English teacher waiting.
Billy
That is kind of nice.
Shane
Popcorn, Dawn.
Chris
Whatever.
Billy
Put it on like three times speed to see if you can read.
Chris
I can't. That bothers the Bothers me.
Shane
I read it while you're two times speed. So you're like trying to go up with it. I was at like Two times.
Matt
Appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate that. I never.
Guest
I.
Chris
The two times. Three times. It me up. It's too fast.
Billy
Yeah, the rhythm's up.
Chris
What's the prostate hoax I saw you gave?
Shane
Oh, it's a completely made the prostate test. They made it up. And the dude who made up the test was like, please stop doing this to people.
Matt
Really?
Shane
To check prostate.
Chris
Oh, to go up people's butts.
Guest
Dude.
Shane
They go up here.
Billy
Gives people cancer, doesn't it? That's why they're like.
Matt
Really?
Billy
They don't like doing it. Annihilates the prostate test. Gives you cancer.
Matt
What Cancer.
Shane
You too. A made up disease world.
Matt
Cancer is Metallica.
Shane
There's like a number here.
Matt
There's a lot of negative things. Age. You too.
Chris
You too.
Matt
There's a lot of negative things that are also.
Chris
That's true.
Shane
I'm the family doctor.
Matt
Being the family doctor. You too.
Chris
Being a family doctor.
Shane
Giving them stuff I find on the Internet.
Matt
Metallica. That's what.
Shane
That's how I medicate them.
Matt
No. Ajax is the only Metallica dude on you on your way to your Wawa
Chris
interview throwing a metal baseball bat. Ajax is the Metallic.
Matt
You've done so much Metallica, dude. You're way more Metallica than you too.
Chris
Yeah, I was just arguing.
Matt
I hate to admit this. I'm more you too, than Metallica. I'm more YouTube reverse.
Chris
How do you feel?
Matt
Like you're more YouTube big soft gay guy.
Chris
No, you're.
Shane
You're cool fish for compliments, bro.
Guest
Bro.
Matt
Huh?
Shane
Fishing for compliments.
Matt
That's you too. That's you too. That's girl stuff you do, dude.
Chris
No, I'm not just hyping you. You're more Metallica.
Matt
I wish I was more Metallica. I wish I was more his anima.
Billy
His anima is you too.
Matt
Unfortunately, it is his essence. My essence is you too.
Chris
My demons are. My demons are Metallic.
Matt
Your demons are.
Shane
Demons are. When you're smashing oil bottles. That's metal. That's not you too.
Matt
You're definitely.
Shane
You slam in the dishwasher. Never to metall. Never to you too.
Chris
It's always smash. Smash the top row.
Matt
You're.
Shane
You can't listen to Metallica because you will hulk out.
Chris
I will say smashing a glass. Smashing a glass dishwasher is the best feeling in the world, dude. No banner punching holes in the wall. That's Metallica.
Matt
That's Talica.
Chris
True.
Shane
You're on the path. I mean, just put on kill them all.
Chris
I. I tell you, I don't like Metal, dude.
Billy
It's already playing in your head.
Matt
Look, you and me are different. I wish.
Shane
You're sprinting, dude.
Matt
I am. You too. You are Metallica. We both wish.
Chris
That's true.
Shane
You're not living in harmony,
Matt
tiger. Can't deny str. I know what I am. You skateboarded.
Chris
True. Still do.
Matt
That's metallic. Although I will say yeah. Riding a scooter to the gym. You too. Not going to the gym. Metallica.
Chris
I ride my bicycle, which is. That's you too.
Matt
Riding your bicycle. Gym now. Crashing your bicycle. Fighting a dog. Bleeding at the gym. Metallica. You're pretending to be. You too. You keep being metallic.
Shane
Trying to keep a lid on it is metallic.
Matt
Hanging white knuckle in it. Metallic. You are literally metallic. Denial. You complete denial. You are.
Shane
Watch a Metallica documentary. You'll love.
Matt
Rules, dude.
Chris
Did you guys. That was the ultimate Trojan horse into my psyche. Now I'm like, dude, Metallica rules.
Matt
You were. You were literally swimming. I was standing next to Billy on the beach. It was.
Shane
He gave me the whole plan.
Matt
It was. I, like, stood.
Shane
I went.
Matt
I was looking at all the driftwood so we could build a horse. I said, don't worry. Tonight we're going to get him.
Billy
You win.
Shane
That's.
Chris
I was completely done. It got me. I can't deny it. That was like the fifth dimension level of the argument.
Matt
I had to give myself up. I had to admit, unfortunately, I am deep down in my core gay ass. You too. But I wish I was Metallica.
Chris
You're Metallica, bro.
Matt
Guard dog's Metallica, dude. Guard dog. Yeah, you do.
Shane
Nate 2 All day.
Matt
Me too, bro. There's nothing we can do about it. We got a good heart. I wish I didn't, dude. I wish I was sick. And I wish I was evil. I'm not. You do have Metallica. Possibly the most metallic. Darkness.
Chris
Absolute.
Matt
Yeah. You are metallic. You're the most metallic.
Chris
You're.
Matt
Out of everyone, you're easily the most.
Billy
I don't think so.
Chris
We have. Dude.
Billy
Beezer.
Matt
That's the most brutality.
Chris
Yeah, true.
Shane
Beezers ride the light.
Matt
Beezer might be Edge. That might be Edge. It actually might be him. Have we seen them together?
Shane
I mean, Beezer put all the rumors around.
Chris
Yeah, dude, he swam.
Matt
Swam with the flat rim. He swam. Oh, you two swim?
Billy
He hates swam.
Chris
Yeah, dude, he swam so far out.
Matt
YouTube swim. I'll preview.
Shane
I'm out here.
Billy
And he swam out further than everyone.
Chris
Lost his sunglasses.
Billy
He's trying to ride the wind.
Matt
Oh, dude,
Chris
it's Crazy.
Matt
There was a. You, too. You're Metallica. You might be the most metallic.
Billy
I'm not the most. I'm easily. I'm Matchbox Billy's.
Matt
You, too, Billy.
Shane
I'm Iron maiden.
Matt
No, you're YouTube. You're definitely more YouTube than Metall. You're not like a. You're not like a. Tiger's in the cage.
Shane
When Tyler gets out of the cage, I'm a tower.
Matt
I don't think the tiger's in the cage.
Shane
You've heard me before.
Matt
I think tiger's in the cage. Yeah, Tiger's out of the cage. Yeah.
Shane
Stevie and Reggie, you too.
Matt
That's you, too. That's you, too. Four and a five pound dog. That's you, too.
Chris
Jackson's Metallica.
Matt
He's a blind, dying pimple. Dude. That's so Metallica. You know what? It is, dude. It's all Jackson. Here.
Shane
Kid on the bed, slapping his chest to the drums.
Matt
Oh, my God.
Shane
I wish I could find it. I'll try to find it for you.
Guest
Continue.
Chris
Dude, Falling on a YouTube sword is the most noble thing you've ever done.
Matt
It's embarrassing, but I know who I am. I'm gonna get you, too, man. That's crazy. I'm right there with you, Chris. You are the most metallic.
Chris
That's.
Guest
That's true.
Matt
You're a demon.
Billy
Yeah. I want to run. Sunlight on my face, dude.
Guest
What?
Matt
What you do. You sound like an actual demon. I want sunlight on my face. You're a demon. I'm actually gonna be scared to sleep here with you.
Billy
That's crazy.
Matt
You in this house. Spooks me out. God knows when you're breaking my room. Tonight's tonight. Nate's been begging us to eat.
Chris
We never ate, Nate.
Matt
Oh, yeah? Well, you were begging us to eat. You pause. No, that was Nate. That's the king of the pause, dude. He kept, like, falling down the ocean, being like, oh, my God, are you
Shane
guys gonna get me?
Matt
What the. Remember when you did that to me twice? You did that to me twice. Obviously, if you drown, we're in big, big trouble.
Shane
Hot water.
Chris
Nobody will believe us.
Matt
No one's gonna believe us. But who knows what happened anyway? We're gonna find out.
Chris
What you looking up, Bill?
Matt
Metallica.
Shane
Trying to find this video.
Matt
Denying it's crazy.
Shane
Yeah, I wish.
Billy
I wish I was Metallica.
Matt
Honestly, if we all voted. If you're Metallica, you are Metallica 100. What would you say about Chris?
Shane
Metallica.
Matt
Yes.
Chris
Yeah.
Matt
Now what would you say about Billy? Metallica or you too.
Billy
Well, he's very. He's been you two to me.
Matt
Nice soft guy.
Billy
He's you two to me.
Matt
But.
Billy
Yeah, I don't think there's a Metallica in there.
Matt
No, but I don't think there's like a real evil boiling under the surface. I think it's. He tries to be a tough guy. He's got a rough outer shell because of the way he's raised. Totally. A bit of a crustacean. He's a lobster. Nothing underneath. Soft underneath.
Billy
See, this is just the kind of thing that brings the Metallica out. You're conjuring a Metallica.
Matt
I'd love to see it. He's trying to think he has it.
Chris
Try some of the Metallica.
Billy
This is a witch's brew.
Matt
No, but Guard dog's a freak. Guard dog's a little metallic.
Billy
Yeah, Guard dog is a Metallica.
Matt
Give him a couple of whiskey. He's like. What you say to me? You're Metallica, man. Sweet, man. Unfortunately. Where you too, bro? We can do.
Chris
I see how you're. You too. How are you not Metallica?
Matt
I'm gay all the time.
Chris
You're not. What are you talking about?
Billy
Yeah, you got Metallica in you.
Shane
I need this.
Matt
I don't think you've ever seen it.
Billy
I've seen it. I've seen it more than most.
Chris
Thrive off of discord.
Billy
I've been on the receiving end.
Chris
Thrive off of discord.
Matt
Lord.
Billy
I've been on the receiving end of a couple solos.
Matt
False.
Chris
False. False. Discord. How you're not Metallica.
Matt
False.
Billy
Yeah, dude.
Matt
That sounds like more Sabbath. That sounds like Sabbath.
Billy
The bell, the bells told for me a couple times.
Chris
We should just say we're all Metallic.
Matt
That's crazy. Obviously we're all
Chris
Bill, you're Metallica.
Shane
Change to try and get someone to say he's Metallica.
Chris
He's Metallica.
Matt
He is hitting the whole. I said, I said you, me and Nate are you too.
Shane
Yeah, I'm obviously Metallica.
Matt
You're not at all. You the night. You're one of the nicest guys I know. You're a sweetheart.
Producer
Thanks.
Chris
Yeah, it's not a bad thing.
Matt
I'm striving, bro.
Shane
Now I need to kiss your stomach like the album.
Matt
Jeez. You know. That's you too.
Chris
That's you too.
Matt
That's you too.
Chris
I'm trying my whole life. Should get to you too.
Matt
That's what makes you the most metallic. Non stop.
Billy
Yeah.
Matt
Like, dude.
Shane
Trying like hell.
Matt
Going crazy. That is Metallica.
Billy
Yeah. Every day I go, I'm. You too. I don't know why everyone treats me
Matt
like that's the difference.
Billy
Know all I'm doing is playing you too.
Matt
Am I taking crazy P. I'm saying this over and over again. You too. All that I see.
Billy
Swear. Me too.
Shane
There's a little kid on a bed singing that.
Matt
And then in the.
Shane
When the drums kick and he slaps his chest.
Matt
Cuz you're playing by the rule. Rules.
Shane
We took it to the limit.
Matt
We took it today at the beach. We took it to the limit. Where's Beezer? Beer comes out.
Shane
You think you could summon him?
Billy
You gotta enjoy it.
Matt
Yes. Summon him.
Shane
Text him.
Chris
Beer.
Matt
He's not gonna like it.
Billy
No, he's out on the. He's out.
Chris
He's out. Yeah, he's.
Matt
He's not gonna like the pod chat. Bzt.
Producer
Yeah.
Chris
It's hilarious.
Shane
He's been stealing all Gardini's Cokes.
Matt
That's so funny. Did you know that? Wanting to watch Intervention while you're up. What the.
Billy
That's a. That's a. It's bees and Tommy.
Matt
It might be the most Metallica geezer and Tommy crushing intervention right now. Yeah. That's textbook.
Chris
That's complete Metallica.
Matt
God dang it. Well, well.
Shane
Getting stolen from him.
Chris
Huh?
Shane
Garden's been getting his Coke.
Matt
Stealing from him.
Shane
He's cokehead.
Matt
Somebody. Coca Cola. Yeah.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
He bought a couple Coca Cola classics. And somebody. Somebody didn't go out to the beach today. And somebody out of nowhere. 12 Coca Colas are gone. That's Metallica. I don't know who took them.
Billy
Smashing the hotel room.
Matt
Yeah.
Chris
There are minis too.
Matt
The Cokes. It's not. All right. You were complaining about it. You were complaining about it. You were down at the beach going, somebody stole my Coca Cola. I think Brian drank them. You call it Brian's. I think that is.
Billy
Metallica is calling 6. Brian.
Matt
Yeah. I think B Dries ankle. Stop.
Chris
Yeah. Have. Seeing them disappear that fast is just alarming.
Shane
Yeah.
Chris
Being like, dude, someone drank eight minutes.
Shane
Somebody get these beggars out of here.
Matt
Somebody get these beggars out of here.
Shane
Him turning the side is amazing.
Chris
Can't wait to see it.
Matt
You're gonna love that scene. You're gonna see it so funny.
Shane
I was pissed. And they're kicking the dog.
Chris
I don't that it. We never did they kick the dog in the movie.
Guest
Yeah. Dang. We never.
Chris
We never talked about SP Odyssey.
Matt
Spotlight.
Chris
Spotlight.
Matt
Spotlight.
Shane
Spotlight.
Matt
That's YouTube. Spotlight. Literally. That's you to the movie.
Shane
Oh, you're talking about that movie.
Chris
Yeah, dude. That so bad.
Shane
There's nothing more powerful than the stinking Catholics.
Matt
Yeah.
Shane
They got to stop raping kids. The hell's going on?
Matt
Like, Irish Catholics. They're never going to turn on these pedophiles. Yeah. Made this. The Is this. They did. That's the point of the movie. The movie's made because they did.
Guest
Yeah, dude, it was bad.
Matt
Nothing stops a Catholic when they got something on their mind. The blow city to stop it.
Guest
Yeah.
Matt
Salon. Here's boss. Yeah.
Shane
Irish boss behavior.
Matt
Crazy Hamas.
Chris
It was crazy. It's. Yeah, that was.
Matt
We rewatched it on. I came in, I was. Don't get me wrong, I had a couple cocktails down at the beach. Came in, the boys were snuggled up watching Spotlight on Tubi, which is the funniest version of watching a movie about.
Billy
Oh, my God, that.
Matt
Three seconds to commercials. AI Casino commercial.
Chris
Oh, my God, it was bad.
Matt
In the middle of people being like, many kids did he rape? He'd be like, are you ready to win money, dude?
Chris
They have, like, offensive. They're like, offensive commercials, dude. Yeah, they have one that would just be like, a hot cartoon.
Matt
Shields big.
Chris
A hot cartoon lady. And then it would just be the same commercial again with just two AI generated black guys. And it be like, I just want a ton of money. He's like, man, you playing games on your phone. He like, I want 900 bucks. Let's do it together.
Shane
Somebody get the swords.
Matt
I was upstairs fighting, shedding. Weapons down. Dude, you were. I was, Holling. I was trying to stop it. No, I was upstairs pushing back
Billy
frames.
Chris
Becoming what?
Billy
You're pushing the table.
Matt
He's kicking. He's. I can't do anything.
Chris
Why are you kicking the table? Yeah, why are you pushing? Are you having a YouTube spaz?
Shane
I. I can't do anything right, I guess.
Matt
Is it. I told you it was YouTube.
Shane
I was trying to. I was just trying to spread out.
Matt
Classic YouTube.
Shane
I'm running the shot.
Matt
See the metallic boys jump down your throat immediately. Seriously,
Chris
I literally. If you can see, you can replay it. You can replay the shot. I go like this.
Matt
Pushed it back.
Chris
First time I failed. It didn't go anywhere. I was like, God damn it. Everyone saw that, that
Billy
shot.
Chris
Some talking, some moving the table, ruining Gardini's frame. It's been a beautiful trip.
Matt
It's been such a beautiful trip. Very important conversation. I actually had such a nice trip.
Chris
That was awesome.
Matt
But every day I wake up, look out. I mean, look out. You see the ocean? I wait. So funny to wake up and see the most beautiful thing in the world and be like. Like, God damn. I don't think I can do this again. I don't think. Dude, I've been here for a week. I'll be here for like, five more years.
Guest
Dude.
Chris
You got to.
Matt
All in front of you.
Chris
You guys got.
Matt
Everyone's leaving.
Chris
Who's all leaving?
Matt
Everyone.
Chris
Dude.
Matt
I'm going to be here by myself.
Shane
Neighbors say you can eat pizza with them.
Matt
I'm going to hang out with the neighbors.
Guest
Hello.
Chris
Look like going full Metallica nasty.
Matt
No, that'd be you, too. That's Ride the Lightning. Voicemail. Obviously Mel Gibson, man.
Chris
He's Italica.
Matt
Okay. Tom Hanks. You too.
Chris
You too. For sure.
Matt
Okay. You see where we're going. But you understand the concept of which one's cooler.
Chris
Cooler, for sure. It is. I get that it's cooler.
Guest
Yeah.
Chris
But it's.
Matt
It's.
Chris
I just. I mean, it's not for me. That's all style hats.
Shane
Backwards.
Matt
Could be edge, though.
Chris
I'll take it.
Billy
If it didn't have a brim on it. The edge. Yeah.
Chris
Odd hat if you cut the brim off. It just happens. I'm a backwards hat guy now. Not all the time.
Billy
50.
Chris
50. Sometimes I just go, I've got to flip this backwards. And we're about to talk, too. I don't want to be obscure. In my face.
Shane
Fire. You know you want to mess up. Guardian. He shot.
Chris
Not at all. I never want to do.
Matt
Is that funny to them? They're laughing.
Chris
I love his shots.
Matt
All right, let's do it.
Chris
Bye. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane's secret podcast on Spotify.
Guest
Do.
Release Date: July 30, 2026
Hosts: Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
Guests: Chris O’Connor & Billy
This episode captures the absolute essence of the classic “guys beach trip”—messy arguments, passionate musical hot takes, and the kind of inside-joke-filled camaraderie that defines the Matt and Shane universe. Recorded on location, the group recounts and laughs through several legendary debates (Metallica vs. U2! November Rain vs. Enter Sandman! Is adding water to sand effective?) and generally paints a portrait of the grandeur and absurdity of spending a week at the beach with your best friends. Expect classic bits, relentless ribbing, and a whole lot of “who’s more Metallica, who's more U2?" banter.
The episode flows as pure, rapid-fire, overlapping “guy talk” with constant inside jokes, mock-serious debates, self-awareness of their own absurdity, and love for passionate disagreement. The camaraderie and the mix of competitive and affectionate energy shines throughout.
For anyone who hasn't listened: This is the definitive “guys trip” episode—a snapshot of friends being competitive and silly, riffing through dumb arguments that everyone cares about way too much, and revealing how music, minor grievances, and group dynamics all turn into works of comedic art in the right company. If you need to choose sides in the Metallica/U2 war or just want to feel like you’re on the beach with some hilarious, opinionated friends, this is the episode to catch.