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Max Lockhan
All right, real quick. Before we start today's episode, we open nominations for the very first Max Lockhan Awards. And honestly, this one means a lot to me because it's something I've been wanting to do for several years, and we're finally doing it. These awards are about recognizing the people who are genuinely making an impact in the legal industry. The people building standout brands, they're innovating, they're creating incredible cultures and teams, marketers getting attention for their law firms, leaders giving back to the community, people pushing the industry forward and raising the standard for all of us. We created 10 different awards to celebrate law firm owners inside the community and the legal industry. And I'd love for you to take a few minutes and nominate someone that you know. Nominations are open now through June 30th at MaximumLawyer.com forward/awards. And hey, make sure you nominate more than one person if you want. There are 10 different awards, so nominate away. Nominate someone for every single category if you know someone that fits that role. There are a lot of people that are in the community, in the Max law community that deserve to be recognized, and hopefully you will share the love and recognize those that deserve to be nominated.
Jeff Hampton
Foreign. So I. We have you out here in Chicago. You're going to leading our. You lead our YouTube accelerator with Jeff Hampton. But you were telling me about something a couple days ago that is really cool. I. I twisted your arm and convinced you to talk about it a little bit. It's a. It's a skill that you created for, like, it's basically your entire YouTube process. Right? Is that how it is?
Ryan Weber
Yeah. So I've paid $15,000 to probably the top YouTube strategists out there. And so I took what they were doing, getting all the transcripts off of our conversations, learned everything they're doing, applied what I'm doing, and put it all into Claude, Had Claude build it all out and say, you know, extract everything. What are we doing? You know, this is what I do. This is how I do it. This is my process and put it in there to build a skill. And now I have. I would call it a 9 to 9.5 out of 10 from those guys. YouTube strategist.
Jeff Hampton
That's. I mean, that's. It's pretty awesome. I mean, like, I'm. I'm excited if somebody. You'll show it to me, but it's pretty cool. Walk me through, I guess, how it works. Like, what does it do for you?
Ryan Weber
So probably the easiest way to explain it is YouTube in general. So YouTube is all about time, title topic, thumbnail. Those are most important things. So that's what I built this on. So I will have this thing. It knows our channel, knows what we're about, knows who our channel's for, what we're trying to achieve with the channel. Is it, is it a growth channel? Is it a, you know, a views channel for YouTube or is it trying to just get clients? So it's trained on that. It's also trained on our whole brand voice and all of that. So it knows everything about the law firm. And then the skill will then go in and study YouTube, find outlier videos the same way I would. I have our channel trackers of. Here's our exact niche channels that we look at. Here's our adjacent niche channels we look at. So it goes into. It's the, the platform I use is1of10.com. So it goes in there, it opens our trackers, it says, okay, here's the exact niche that you're looking at over the last six months. Here's the outlier videos. So these are good topics. So I, so I'm going to apply those to the title formats that you like using. Then I'm going to go over to the adjacent niches and I'm going to see what titles are working and I'm apply those and I'm marry it together based on your goal. And I usually say, give me 10 ideas. And it gives me the 10 ideas that I'm looking for with an idea for what the thumbnail should be with the title. And it gives me all the research data of like, why this is good and its recency and relevancy to what we're doing.
Jeff Hampton
So what is the input? I guess, how does it start? What triggers this thing to start off?
Ryan Weber
I do it in Cowork, so I just learned Cowork. You told me I need to do this and I finally got time. So I go into cowork and I say on the YouTube channel, Thomas and Weber or the real estate lawyer, go find me 10 YouTube titles based on my skill. And that's it. Like there's not some crazy prompt because of I've trained it on what it does and so it'll start the whole process. It'll open up, you know, one of ten dot com. It'll open up YouTube. It'll look at our most recent videos, it'll look at what we've done, and then it'll go through and it'll also prioritize them. So one through 10, like number one is what it thinks the best priority one is. And so I'll still go through and I'll say, like, okay, I like this one. I don't like this one. But I was paying a lot of money for someone to do this for me. And it would take them, you know, we'd have a monthly call and they do their research and all that. And I'd still get my 10 titles and I'd pick the ones that I wanted. And now I just have Claude do it. And I compared it against what they were doing, and it's. I don't want to say the same. I'm not going to discredit them.
Jeff Hampton
Sure.
Ryan Weber
But it's really close. And so do I want to continue paying $7,500 every three months, or do I want to just use this and say, well, I got it 95% of the way. What's the human element that they were adding to it, that I can also add to it to get the same idea?
Jeff Hampton
All right, so you all hit 100,000 subscribers a couple of months, couple weeks ago, and you've seen a pretty big uptick over the last few weeks. How, how much of that can you attribute to what you just built out?
Ryan Weber
100%.
Max Lockhan
Really?
Ryan Weber
Yeah. So we went from. We changed our YouTube strategy. We used to be YouTube to try and get clients to the business. It was working. We were getting between five and 15 phone calls a week. So, like, I've posted in the, the maximum Lawyer group and, and said, hey, look, this is a, you know, and
Jeff Hampton
tell you do really well.
Ryan Weber
Yeah, like, this literally came from our website this morning. It's like, hey, Tiffany, I watched your YouTube video. I have this problem that you answered. Do you think you could help me? It's like we get those weekly, but we were only getting like a hundred or one hundred, a thousand to maybe like 3,000 views a video. And don't get me wrong, like, it's great. It was working. But I started seeing, like, the numbers grow and I got like, real excited. I wanted to get to 100k. And the difference was we were really niched into North Carolina law specific because that's where we are. And we had to go broader because if you want to get views and be a YouTuber, it's the broad approach. And so as soon as we shifted to broader, I think we've had about, let's say 11 or 12 videos. The lowest viewed video since we've shifted is like 30,000 views, and we've got one that's 600,000 our number two best ever video. And it's a hundred percent doing that, that exact strategy.
Jeff Hampton
So from listening and talking to you and Jeff Hampton, I kind of got like, there's sort of a recipe I guess when it comes to like what makes a good video. And that's may probably oversimplifying it, but it seems like the research and then like the mechanics of the thumbnails and the titles and things like that, that's like, feels like it's like 80% of it.
Ryan Weber
As opposed to click first platform. If you do not get the click, you don't get the view. So none of it matters. You could be the smartest lawyer with the best information with the most beautiful video. But if someone doesn't click on the video because the title wasn't a format that works, the topic wasn't relevant that people were looking for, and the thumbnail didn't grab attention and work together, the video doesn't matter. So you actually focus. I put about 80% effort into that. And then the rest of it is it's all Claude as well. Like Tiff's videos are scripted, but they're not scripted from me. Just telling Claude, like, here's the video title, Go do it. She sends me a voice note of what she wants to say. So she basically gives me a five minute rough draft of all the things that she would like to say in it. And then we use our script writing framework that we've built out in Claude and it then puts it all together into the exact framework that we want for a good YouTube script.
Jeff Hampton
And that's where like there's like that specific expertise of the attorney that makes sense. Some of the stuff that, the nuance that you wouldn't get whenever you like if you were to just do it yourself. Right?
Ryan Weber
For sure. So like, you know, like we can use you for example, if you're making a video, it wouldn't be this, but let's just say like, you know, seven things you should never say to the car insurance adjuster and you're going through your number one. I want to say, um, you know, you, you never tell them I'm having a good day. Actually, I have a story I want to mention. I had this client, he said, how are you doing on the phone? And my client responded, oh, I'm fine. And then they use that against us when we went to trial. So you tell that story and then in the script it puts it in there and it's not AI generated, it's not something that someone else could use. This is your actual information and that's how you use AI. Well, yeah, no one knows that it's AI written. No one. Because it's Tiffany's actual thoughts and opinions and stories.
Jeff Hampton
Do you all use a teleprompter?
Ryan Weber
Yes. We just started though.
Jeff Hampton
Okay.
Ryan Weber
Like this year, so probably the last 25 videos. I hate it. I'm terrible. I tried to read off my teleprompter yesterday. It's like I don't know how to read. I don't know what happens now. Tiff, she screws up like once out of a 10 minute script. She's like perfect. And she loves it because her time involvement of actually recording videos now we just calculated it were total. Me and her editing 15 hours a month for YouTube.
Jeff Hampton
Pretty damn good.
Ryan Weber
Yeah. Her involvement is two hours a month.
Jeff Hampton
That's pretty good.
Ryan Weber
So that's her just voice noting and sitting in front of the teleprompter to make one YouTube video a week for us that generated 1.5 million views last month that also generated $7,800 in AdSense, which to me is crazy. That is pretty crazy. Now I do the marketing. I got a free $7,800 to go run ads to go actually market the business in our local area. So that's why we shifted to the broad.
Jeff Hampton
I love, I love when you send me those text messages where you like you'll send me. I kid you not everyone, he sends me these breakdowns. Here's how much we spend on these ads. Here's how much we made on the like, it's really impressive. Like, and like you factor in like the adsense and all that, which it's just, it's really impressive. And like I just love that you're, you're focusing on the numbers. Yeah. But you basically, you're like she got free advertising basically because like the marketing paid for itself. Which is just incredible.
Ryan Weber
Yeah. I mean don't get me wrong, like $7800 is not like unmeaningful.
Jeff Hampton
No. But it pays for all the ads.
Ryan Weber
I use it to actually make us money.
Jeff Hampton
Yeah.
Ryan Weber
So like I could be happy and just be like, that's my $7,800. No, I'm going to say, well now I'm going to invest the $7,800 into the thing that I'm getting a 9x return. So that $7,800 just turned into $70,000. So YouTube paid me to make $70,000.
Jeff Hampton
Well then you have like you, you kind of extrapolate out even more. Right? Like, so, yeah, like, that's a bunch of money. But then, like, you have. Okay, you have the funnel for getting people to the webinars. The next thing you know, you have, like, 45 people show up to a webinar.
Ryan Weber
Started it yesterday. I mean, 24 hours in, we have 42 people signed up. I've spent $170.
Jeff Hampton
I mean, it's like, you. Like, the things you're doing are just. It's brilliant. It's awesome.
Ryan Weber
I mean, really cool.
Max Lockhan
It's.
Ryan Weber
It's fun. I. I love it. And I have no issue sharing everything that we're doing, because it takes work. Like, it is hard, and it takes a long time to get skilled at it. So I can tell you what we're doing.
Jeff Hampton
Yeah.
Ryan Weber
And I can share everything, but you got to actually do it.
Jeff Hampton
So I love about you. I asked you to come on here, just talk about the YouTube skill. You shared some stuff. If people want to reach out to you and just kind of pick your brain about the cloud skill that you created for YouTube, I guess. What would you call the skill?
Ryan Weber
I call it the YouTube research skill. Now, I have it built out for each individual channel, and that's kind of like, what makes it work. So, you know, like, with us having the skill, we have it, but you would also have to, like, tailor it to what your goals are and what your needs are. So there's probably. I haven't tried this yet. And this is what we were talking about of, like, oh, well, do you want to sell this? Like, yeah, sure. Like, this is going to help people, and it's very valuable. It's $15,000 of education, plus all the six years of being on YouTube learning piled into just. Claude. It's really good. But I would have to figure out, like, the prompt to help someone train it into what they're doing first to then deploy the skill, which I don't think is hard.
Jeff Hampton
Right. Well, I mean, like, if. If I'm understanding you correctly, that means you're gonna save yourself, I don't know, what, $60,000 this year, if not more on having to pay for someone else to do all that for you.
Ryan Weber
Yeah, I mean, I've done them in, like, three months, Sprint. So I paid them for my channel first to see, like, how are they? You know, it worked really well. Like, I. I just wanted to get monetized. Like, I do it when I have these little goals. Like, yeah, I have a goal. I want to get monetized. So I paid them. It worked. I learned a bunch from It. I applied it to the. The law firm's channel. It worked. And then I was like, oh, I've got the YouTube accelerator. You know what I'd really love to do? Be at a hundred thousand subscribers by the time I get. And you nailed it. And we did it.
Jeff Hampton
Nailed it. Yeah.
Ryan Weber
So I was like, well, I'll pay them to sprint and see on what a. A bigger channel. What would they do on that? Well, that's when they opened my eyes up of broadening.
Jeff Hampton
Yeah.
Ryan Weber
Hey, you're still. And to this day, we're still getting the same amount of website increase. We're still getting everything the same. We've just added a million plus views a month. And I'm like, it works.
Jeff Hampton
All right, well, if people want to ask you questions about it, how do they get in touch with you?
Ryan Weber
I'm pretty easy. Probably Instagram's the easiest. I'm usually on there the most. So it's at Ryan Weber marketing. But my YouTube channel's hopefully helping as many law firm owners as possible of just like understanding marketing and, you know, maybe bringing a thing or two in house to. To not have to pay guys like, like me. That'd be great.
Jeff Hampton
Same name, right? Weber marketing for YouTuber. Okay. Ryan Weber on YouTube.
Ryan Weber
See this beautiful face?
Jeff Hampton
Love it. Not Jeremy Weber. Gotta made a maker over. All right, thanks for doing this, dude.
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Episode: I Paid $15,000 for YouTube Advice. Then I Replaced It with Claude.
Host: Tyson Mutrux
Guests: Jeff Hampton, Ryan Weber
Date: June 20, 2026
This episode explores how high-end YouTube strategy consulting for law firms can now be replicated—and possibly improved—by building custom AI workflows. Ryan Weber details his journey: after investing $15,000 in advice from top YouTube strategists, he distilled their methods, trained the Claude AI model on his firm’s data, and built a powerful, automated content research and scripting system. The discussion centers on using AI to drive channel growth, freeing time, and maximizing ROI—highlighting practical, actionable insights for law firm marketers.
On the importance of click metrics:
On transparency and skill-building:
On time savings with AI:
On measurable growth:
This episode is a masterclass in leveraging AI for practical, scalable law firm marketing. Ryan Weber’s openness with his process, focus on ROI, and enthusiasm for continual improvement make this an inspiring and actionable listen for law firm owners wanting to future-proof and scale their marketing.