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Maximum Lawyer
Hosted by Tyson Mutrux · EN
Maximum Lawyer is the podcast for law firm owners who want to scale with intention and build a business that works for their life.
Hosted by Tyson Mutrux, each weekly episode features candid conversations with law firm owners, business experts, and industry leaders sharing real strategies and lessons learned in the trenches.
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A Paralegal’s Honest Talk with Law Firm Owners
3d ago00:39:27Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREIn this episode, Tyson interviews paralegal Haley Binkowski to talk about what law firm owners are really getting wrong behind the scenes, and what to do instead. Haley pulls back the curtain on how overpromising to clients, poor communication, and constant “progress” without proper implementation can create chaos and burnout for your team.She shares how boundaries with both clients and attorneys protect quality work, why overreliance on call transcripts and AI summaries is causing a “time tax,” and how half‑implemented tools drain productivity instead of saving it. Haley also walks through the training gaps she’s lived through, how she’s building a multi‑media training system, and why regular check‑ins and game‑planning with your A‑players matter more than you think.They wrap by tackling uncomfortable truths: relying too heavily on one superstar, letting C‑players linger, and how an owner’s mental health and pace directly spill over into every person in the firm. If you want your team to stay, grow, and actually like working with you, this episode is required listening.In this episode, you’ll learn:How overpromising timelines to clients quietly creates stress, mistakes, and resentment on your team.Why overreliance on call transcripts and AI summaries is adding a “time tax” instead of saving time and what to do instead.How to stop drowning your staff in half‑implemented tools and start rolling out tech with real training and ownership.What great training looks like from a paralegal’s perspective, including multi‑media SOPs and in‑the‑flow tooltips.How A‑players experience C‑players, and why failing to address underperformance pushes your best people out.Simple ways to transfer authority from attorney to staff so clients respect and communicate with non‑lawyer team members.The check‑in rhythms and conversations that make team members feel heard, supported, and willing to speak up before they burn out.The uncomfortable truth about your mental health as an owner and why you need to slow down if you want a stable, high‑performing firm.Highlights00:00 – Why Tyson wanted a paralegal to call out law firm owners00:54 – The number one thing: healthy boundaries with clients and attorneys02:59 – Over‑promising, “time tax,” and overreliance on call transcripts07:16 – New tech, tool overload, and half‑implemented systems09:29 – How to actually roll out and adopt new tools with the team10:42 – Getting real feedback from the people using tools every day12:02 – Shiny objects, duplicate tools, and wasted subscription spend13:51 – The training disaster: moving from estate planning to probate15:39 – Building ideal training: docs, visuals, and click‑by‑click videos17:16 – In‑the‑flow training: tooltips and instructions where work happens19:03 – Boundary violations: after‑hours asks and “just one more favor”22:24 – Capacity, marbles in the cup, and reassigning work25:21 – A‑players, C‑players, and the cost of not acting26:47 – What makes great employees feel respected and valued29:02 – Letting paralegals help design the game plan29:56 – Why good people still leave good firms31:26 – Transferring authority so clients respect non‑lawyer staff33:32 – What owners should start doing in the next 30 days34:59 – What owners should stop doing immediately36:01 – The one thing owners don’t want to hear: slow down🔗 Join the Maximum Lawyer community: maximumlawyer.com🎟️ Get your MaxLawCon tickets: maxlawcon.com🔍 Vet your vendors: beccaslist.coMaximum Lawyer helps law firm owners build businesses, not jobs.Connect with HaileyEmail: haley@amymcgarrylaw.comResources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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From Casting to Courtroom: Stepping Into the Role of the Leader You Want to Be
6d ago00:20:31Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREIn this solo episode of Maximum Lawyer Live, Tyson Mutrux unpacks a powerful idea: most of what you think is “just who I am” is actually a series of choices you’ve made, and can change. Inspired by Sydney Sweeney’s physical and mental transformation to play boxer Christy Martin, Tyson explores how our looks, leadership style, and even our “bad habits” are usually the result of repeated decisions, not permanent traits.He weaves in a moving Eric Church commencement clip about a guitar that’s slightly out of tune, reminding you that there is a core “chord” running through you that should stay constant while you intentionally upgrade everything around it.From visualizing the future version of yourself to stepping into different roles (parent, firm leader, spouse, business owner) on purpose, Tyson gives you a practical mindset shift: stop saying “I’m not organized” or “I’m bad at hiring” and start saying “I haven’t chosen to get good at this yet.”Most lawyers hide behind fixed labels like “I’m not a numbers person” or “I’m just bad at sales.” Tyson explains why those identities are choices, and how to change them without losing who you really are.In this episode, you’ll learn:How watching Sydney Sweeney play boxer Christy Martin sparked a deep question: how much of how we look, act, and lead is actually a choice?Why your “look” isn’t just clothes and hair, but training, eating, body language, and how you carry yourself as a leader.The difference between your unchangeable inner “chord” (your core values) and the roles you can intentionally step into.How to use visualization to become the future version of yourself, including the way Tyson borrows characters like the lawyer from “The Judge” to snap into a different mode.Why saying “I’m disorganized,” “I’m bad at hiring,” or “I’m not a numbers person” is just dodging responsibility—and how to reframe those as underdeveloped skills you’re actively improving.How intentional decisions around health, fitness, and training now pay off for your 50-, 60-, and 80-year-old self.Highlights01:00 - The Christy Martin movie that sparked Tyson’s identity rabbit hole03:12 - How Hollywood proves “the look follows the decision” (training, eating, moving differently)05:09 - The unchanging “chord” inside you and why you shouldn’t try to rewrite it06:45 - Visualization 101 – stepping into the future version of you on purpose (Billy Terrasio shoutout)08:18 - Using characters like “The Judge” to snap into parent, leader, and owner roles09:52 - Why Tyson wore a three‑piece suit at MaxLawCon and Disrupt while everyone else went casual11:24 - Health as a long game – building muscle in your 40s for your 50‑ and 80‑year‑old self13:03 - “I’m just not organized” and other identity lies law firm owners tell themselves14:37 - Reframing your labels: “I haven’t chosen to get good at this… yet”16:02 - Teaching kids (and teams) to replace “I’m bad at this” with “I’m working on getting better”17:25 - Turning decisions into reality – training, support, and telling your leadership team who you’re becoming19:10 - Final challenge: audit your labels, choose new ones, and keep that core chord intact🔗 Join the Maximum Lawyer community: maximumlawyer.com🎟️ Get your MaxLawCon tickets: maxlawcon.com🔍 Vet your vendors: beccaslist.coMaximum Lawyer helps law firm owners build businesses, not jobs.Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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The Marketing Message Most Lawyers Never Dig Deep Enough to Find
1w ago00:48:25Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREWhat if the real differentiator in your law firm is not your service, your process, or even your results, but your story?In this episode, Tyson Mutrux brings listeners into a mastermind moment from Arizona with Marne Pehrson and Travis Lee Howard. What started as a conversation about marketing turned into something much bigger: a framework for helping law firm owners connect who they are with what their clients need.Travis walks through the first two buckets of his business framework: self and customer. He explains why most lawyers skip the deeper work, how vulnerability builds trust, and why the best marketing does not start with a generic ideal client avatar. It starts with understanding what makes you impossible to compete with.This episode is about reverse engineering your message, identifying the emotional truth behind your client’s problem, and building a brand that feels real because it is.Key TakeawaysYour story is not a distraction from your marketing. It may be the reason your marketing works.Most law firm owners focus on documents, tactics, and features when they should focus on outcomes, trust, and connection.Differentiation happens when you wrap the transaction in something only you can give.Vulnerability, when done with confidence and clarity, makes people feel safe.The right marketing message often comes from reverse engineering the right-fit client instead of forcing an avatar too early.Highlights01:00 The mastermind moment in Arizona that started it all04:01 Travis introduces the Self → Customer → Machine → Team framework08:47 If your manifesto doesn't give you goosebumps, start over10:40 Walking through the framework live with Marne14:19 The real problem in your market - fear, indifference, and generic plans17:06 Why you should reverse engineer your ideal client, not assume one17:53 The tidal pool strategy - own a small ecosystem before chasing the blue ocean24:28 Why lawyers minimize their own story and why that is a mistake27:07 Vulnerability is not weakness - it is the fastest way to build trust34:05 The core differentiation sentence - and how to know when you've nailed it35:01 Marne reads her positioning statement live and Travis grades it41:39 Travis reads the CGH Law manifesto - the real-world version of all of this49:00 What comes next - turning 30 pages of clarity into something executable55:00 Closing thoughts and where to connect with Travis and Marne🔗 Join the Maximum Lawyer community: maximumlawyer.com🎟️ Get your MaxLawCon tickets: maxlawcon.com🔍 Vet your vendors: beccaslist.coMaximum Lawyer helps law firm owners build businesses, not jobs.Connect with Travis Howard:Website https://www.cghlawfirm.com/LinkedIn travisleehoward Connect with Marne PehrsonLinkedInResources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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The Hard Call: AI, Staffing, and Protecting Your Firm Over Your Comfort
2w ago00:22:17Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREAI Is Replacing Jobs at Your Firm, Are You Ready to Make the Hard Calls?In this raw, unfiltered episode of Maximum Lawyer Live, Tyson Mutrux gets real about something most law firm owners are avoiding: AI has already replaced three full positions at his firm, and the decision about what to do next is harder than he expected.Tyson breaks down the emotional weight of being a business owner when automation starts outpacing your people and how loyalty, guilt, and sentimentality can quietly sink your firm's future.If you're a law firm owner navigating AI, staffing decisions, and building a business that actually serves clients well, this one's for you. Timestamps:00:01 – Why Tyson is recording from home today02:00 – The original optimistic view on AI: automate tasks, elevate people05:00 – What Clio's data actually says about AI in law firms07:30 – The conversation with Jason Self that forced a hard truth11:00 – Three positions AI can fully replace, right now15:00 – The difference between loyalty and sentimentality19:00 – The hidden moral problem of keeping unneeded people too long22:00 – "Profit is not greed. Profit is oxygen for your firm."26:00 – Who on your team is there because you need the role vs. avoiding a decision?🔗 Join the Maximum Lawyer community: maximumlawyer.com🎟️ Get your MaxLawCon tickets: maxlawcon.com🔍 Vet your vendors: beccaslist.coMaximum Lawyer helps law firm owners build businesses, not jobs.Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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Why Your Law Firm's Performance Starts With Your Nervous System
2w ago00:53:05Summary readyLaw firm owners frequently wake up feeling behind before the day even begins because their nervous systems are trapped in a chronic state of fight, flight, or freeze. This persistent anxiety is a physiological drain on your energy that restricts access to the prefrontal cortex, ultimately impacting your ability to make critical and strategic decisions for your firm. Maximum Lawyer exists because too many smart and caring lawyers are trapped in firms that own them instead of firms they own.In this episode, Tyson Mutrux sits down with former trial lawyer Lexlee Overton to discuss how upgrading your internal operating system is the ultimate growth strategy for legal entrepreneurs. They explore the science of state management and explain how your emotional coherency directly influences your team's performance, your courtroom presence, and your overall ability to scale. Lexlee highlights why the traditional hustle mentality often leads to burnout and how true leaders prioritize well-being to build a culture of high retention and measurable results.Law firm owners change more lives when they stop building jobs and start building businesses. To support this mission, Lexlee shares practical playbooks for regulating your nervous system, performing daily energy audits, and implementing simple recovery protocols. These proven strategies ensure you can effectively manage stress, reclaim your time, and create a sustainable business that serves your life and family.Highlights00:00:23 The science behind waking up anxious and feeling behind.00:01:47 How a reactive state blocks your access to strategic decision making.00:05:27 The post trial physiological crash and the importance of recovery protocols.00:07:19 Why lawyers constantly struggle to shut their brains off at home.00:08:29 Performing an energy audit to track your daily fueling and draining activities.00:11:39 Five minute breathing practices to quickly shift into recovery mode.00:13:53 Upgrading your internal operating system as a core leadership advantage.00:19:50 Why scrolling on your phone deceptively depletes your daily energy.00:23:50 The strategic benefits of managing healthy morning cortisol.00:28:06 How your nervous system unconsciously impacts your team and clients.00:36:47 Common mistakes owners make when trying to improve overall team performanceConnect with Lexlee:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lexleeoverton/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/lexlee.overton Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14Z74inmZUj/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexleeoverton/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@mindoverlaw Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedInFollow Maximum Lawyer for more conversations on building a stronger, more connected, and more intentional law firm.
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The Day a Local Gym Changed How I See Culture
3w ago00:27:20Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HERETyson Mutrux uses a real-world example from a local gym to explore how law firms can build stronger communities around their clients. The episode looks at why great service alone is not always enough, how clients form deeper connections with businesses, and what law firm owners can do to create more trust, belonging, and loyalty.For lawyers, the key question is not just whether the firm is doing good work. It is whether clients can see, feel, and understand the value being created for them. Tyson talks through practical ways to demonstrate value, communicate better during a case, share more relatable stories, and create touchpoints that help clients feel connected instead of forgotten.Listen for:Why “doing a good job” may not be enough to build trustHow to show clients the work happening behind the scenesThe difference between satisfied clients and connected clientsWhy law firms should compete on identity, not just price or outcomesHow intentional touchpoints can help create communityHighlights:00:00 - What a gym taught Tyson about community03:20 - Why good work alone is not enough04:05 - Demonstrating value to clients05:40 - Selling belonging instead of services07:35 - Competing on identity09:45 - Engineering community on purpose11:00 - Turning clients into advocatesFollow Maximum Lawyer for more conversations on building a stronger, more connected, and more intentional law firm.Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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How One Lawyer Used YouTube to Build Two Multi‑7‑Figure Firms
3w ago00:26:32Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREWant to double your law firm revenue and build a real brand using YouTube, without spending a dime on ads? In this MaxLawCon session, Jeff Hampton breaks down the exact YouTube playbook that took his criminal defense and asset protection firms to multi‑seven figures using evergreen video content.Jeff shares how he grew Hampton Law to nearly 500,000 subscribers, 156M+ views, and 200–250 ready‑to‑hire leads per month from YouTube alone, plus how a niche asset protection channel produces an extra $40-50K in monthly revenue. He walks through content pillars, thumbnails, titles, “search everywhere optimization,” and the three‑sentence hook formula that boosted his retention by 20%.If you’re tired of playing the Google ad game, chasing vanity metrics, or feeling like organic is dead, this episode will show you how to turn long‑form YouTube content into your best conversion tool and a digital asset that compounds over time.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why YouTube is the “ultimate conversion tool” for law firmsHow one evergreen “aggravated assault” video generated $1.2M+ over four yearsHow to build content pillars that attract high‑intent, high‑value casesThe Rule of 3 and the 3 C’s of thumbnails (clarity, color, curiosity)Why “giving away your secrets” actually makes clients more likely to hire youHow to “Netflix” your channel so viewers binge your content and book callsThe three‑step hook that keeps viewers watching past the first 30 secondsEpisode Highlights02:10 – 156M views, 4.8M watch hours, and $191K ad revenue in 12 months05:00 – 200–250 local leads per month and $2–2.5M in client revenue from YouTube07:30 – Why organic isn’t dead and why most lawyers are doing YouTube wrong10:15 – Long‑form vs short‑form: Why Jeff treats videos as digital assets13:00 – Using video on your website to boost conversion rate optimization15:20 – Why YouTube is the ultimate conversion tool and how ads become “jet fuel”18:05 – Old lawyer marketing vs omnipresence and “search everywhere optimization”22:10 – Why YouTube is the #1 media platform and how Google is prioritizing itConnect with Jeff Hampton:Website Instagram Linkedin Youtube Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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PPC Isn't a Slot Machine: The Math Behind Law Firm Marketing
3w ago00:33:51Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREThis episode gives you a clear, practical picture of how law firm SEO is changing right now so you can make smarter, more informed decisions about where to invest your time and money. Tyson sits down with Vaidas and Travis from RiseUp to unpack Google’s latest updates, how AI content is being treated, and what actually moves the needle for firms that want cases instead of vanity rankings.You’ll hear how Google is cracking down on scaled, low‑value AI content while rewarding original, human‑edited pages that deliver real information gain, and what that means for your current content library. The guys explain why “set it and forget it” SEO is dead, why they are going back to update a significant chunk of old content for long‑time clients, and how often you really need to revisit key pages. They also share a cautionary story about a firm that dumped 100 AI‑generated pages on their site and watched traffic drop by about 80% in two weeks, giving you a real‑world example of what not to do.Beyond Google’s core update, you’ll get a better understanding of where LLMs and search engines are actually looking: robust attorney bios, detailed case results, local signals, Yelp profiles, and consistent social content. That context helps you see SEO less as “just my website” and more as an ecosystem you can deliberately shape, instead of leaving it to chance.The episode also dives into PPC, showing how Google’s own “smart” recommendations can tank your click‑through rate and why pay‑per‑click only works when you know your cost per click, conversion rate, and case value. By the end, you’ll have a much clearer lens for deciding whether to put dollars into SEO, PPC, or cleaning up your broader online presence, and you’ll know which questions to ask any marketing vendor before you sign the next contract.Episode Highlights00:00 – What’s going on with the latest Google algorithm updates and how they impact law firm SEO.02:00 – Why “set it and forget it” content strategies are failing and how often you should update pages.04:00 – The firm that added 100 AI‑written pages and lost 80% of its traffic in two weeks.07:30 – How stats, FAQs, robust bios, case results, Yelp, and social posts feed Google and LLMs.10:00 – Tyson’s CTR drop after following Google’s “smart” ad recommendations and what to learn from it.15:45 – Travis’s deck‑of‑cards analogy for PPC budgets and what “too little” spend really looks like.26:12 – Why most firms don’t truly know their numbers and how that leads to bad SEO and ad investment decisionsConnect with RizeUp Media:Website Instagram Facebook Linkedin YoutubeResources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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BMI, Bench Press, and Law Firm KPIs: Tracking the Metrics That Actually Matter
4w ago00:22:26Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREThis Morning Meeting episode uses Tyson’s fitness journey and a “slightly high” BMI score as a metaphor for how easily law firm owners can obsess over the wrong numbers and miss the ones that actually drive freedom and profitability. Tyson walks through the gap between vanity metrics and meaningful metrics, from BMI vs body fat to revenue vs profit, and shows why some of the most celebrated law firm numbers actually tell you almost nothing about the health of your practice.You’ll hear how his firm used one primary metric, average fee, to dramatically increase case value over 15 years, and why lead volume, signed cases, and employee headcount often create the illusion of progress while hiding serious problems underneath. Tyson then reframes success around better questions: What if “growth” meant less chaos, fewer fires, and fewer hours at the office, while the right numbers still go up? He shares practical metrics to consider, like profit per case or team, qualified leads, and owner work hours per week, and challenges you to build a simple scoreboard that fits your firm instead of copying someone else’s dashboard.If you’ve ever felt proud of your top-line revenue but unsure whether your firm is actually working for your life, this episode will help you sort the numbers that really matter from the ones that just look good on paper.Highlights00:00 – Tyson shares his “cutting phase” story and how a “slightly high” BMI score sparked this conversation about tracking the right numbers in your firm.01:45 – BMI vs body fat: why one metric labels him “overweight” while another shows he’s in great shape, and how that mirrors misleading metrics in law firms.02:20 – Revenue vs profit: why a firm making one million in revenue might still be in trouble, and why profit tells a much clearer story03:30 – “Not everything that is measured matters…” Tyson unpacks the famous quote and applies it to the mountains of data most firms track but never use.04:10 – Average fee as the “main number”: how tracking this one metric took his firm from $7,400 to about $25,000 per case over 15 years.07:10 – The illusion of progress: Tyson explains how revenue, lead volume, signed cases, and employee headcount can become pure vanity metrics.08:55 – Redefining growth as less chaos: exploring hours worked per week as a more honest signal of whether your firm is truly serving your life.09:35 – The MaxLawCon Jason Selk challenge: rethinking success as leaving later, arriving earlier, and rejecting “first in, last out” as your main value metric.11:15 – Metrics that actually matter: profit per case, profit per team, qualified leads, and ideal-client cases as better levers for high-performing firms.12:25 – Keeping the main thing the main thing: why every firm needs one core number to focus the team and filter out the noise of vanity metrics.Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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Leveraging Automation to Improve Client Communication and Satisfaction
4w ago00:24:10Summary readyWatch the YouTube version of this episode HEREAtlanta family law attorney Regina Edwards has been flat-fee for 15 years in one of the toughest practice areas: contested family litigation. In this episode, she breaks down how she uses automation, tight client selection, and a no‑phone policy to protect her time, deliver better results, and actually enjoy practicing law again.You’ll hear how she intentionally stretches out her intake process to filter out “lava and piranha” clients, why she signs most divorces without doing a traditional consult, and how she trains her team to sell the process instead of selling access to her. Regina walks through her tech stack (Lawmatics, Pipefile, Motion.io, Airtable, portals, and more) and shows how she uses guides, portals, and automated updates to keep clients informed while dramatically cutting down on interruptions.If you’ve ever wondered whether flat fees can work in high‑conflict family law, or how to build a practice that supports vacations, boundaries, and deep work, this episode gives you a complete playbook you can start adapting today.Timestamps00:00 – You Don’t Have To Bill Hourly ForeverRegina’s story, 15 years of flat‑fee family law, and the “Lawyer on the Beach” mindset.02:00 – Stop Letting ‘Lava Clients’ In The DoorBuilding a clear client avatar and stretching intake to filter out bad‑fit, high‑drama cases.05:10 – Flat Fees Only Work With RulesPaperless‑only firm, payment expectations, and why the team (not Regina) runs the intake machine.07:40 – Write The Rules Before Clients DoCommunication policy, no desk phone, redefining emergencies, and using autoresponders to hold boundaries.10:30 – One Guide, A Thousand Fewer QuestionsThe tinyURL client guide that covers timelines, portals, mediation, discovery, and vacation expectations.12:40 – Make Discovery Suck Less For EveryoneUsing Pipefile, reminders, and organized folders so clients actually finish discovery on time.15:40 – Turn Your Case File Into A Client PortalMotion.io + Airtable + Google Drive powering automated updates, status views, and task lists.18:20 – Build A Business You Still LoveHer tech stack, Profit First, value pricing, lifestyle design books, and why she still enjoys practicing law.Connect with Regina:Website Instagram Facebook Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn
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