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All right, we are back live on Facebook after a, I don't know, six month hiatus. Whatever it is, wouldn't really call it hiatus. We had switched to something else and now we are back. So I'm, I want to do something special today just to sort of commemorate us returning to Facebook, I guess. But for those of you that have not been listening, we, I do have a Facebook or a, a book coming out. Not a Facebook. I've got a book coming out into July or early August. I, I, Becca's gonna kill me for not knowing the exact date, but I'm pretty sure it's the, it's August 1st is the date that it's going to be coming out. It's called founder optional. And I, I want to actually talk about some of the things I removed from it. The, the fun thing about this is this book started as another book. I, I don't think I'm going to mention the, the name of that book because it's, it's still in progress. The one that I'm still working on. I've set it aside until this one is fully done. There's some final edits that I've got to get done and then this one will be fully, fully done. But I, I've cut a lot out of it and just like the other book that I'm writing, it is, the other book was, it had got, it had gotten so gigantic, there's so much in it. And I was like, I just can't, this isn't ready. Like we, I can't release it. Technology is changing so fast. And as I'm in the process of creating that book, I've got the idea for founder optional and I start to play with this idea of gravity and how, especially when you were a newer lawyer, the gravity all sits on you. And as you grow, what you want to do, what allows you to grow is actually dispersing that gravity. And that's the concept of the book and I talk about some, some ways of doing that, but I like to tell stories in the book. I like to use real examples of stories. One of the, one of the bits of feedback that I got from our editor Connie was she said should really, I like I pulled a bunch of stories that weren't just legal stories in the original book and she said you should really pull in real stories from other lawyers. Sort of begrudgingly I, I took her advice and I removed some of the stories from the book that were non legal related. So I want to talk about some of those today. Specifically there's one I want to talk about if we have time. I'll get into some other ones. But I, this one I, for some reason this one stuck with me and so I want to, I want to talk about it. I'm not going to read the chapter. I've got the actual chapter that I had removed from the book. Basically the way it worked was this is a really interesting thing. I'm probably going to do an episode about it at some point, some point where I'm going to talk about the process and probably, I'll probably need to have Becca on here too because Becca's got, has been absolutely integral to getting it done because she's been doing all the, the back end stuff like the stuff that actually takes to get the book done and actually published. That that's, she's been doing all of that stuff. But it's, it is really kind of an interesting process. But I, I, I'm gonna go through some of these. Not going to read it. But I do have the chapters in front of me but I'm gonna, I want to kind of go through some of the parts of it that I thought were kind of interesting. So one of the stories and I'll talk about why like basically why I wanted to include some of this stuff in here. But the, one of the stories and I'll, I guess I'll read the beginning of this chapter. Just the first sentence. This one it. Because it lays the land for you. In November of 1940, a crowd gathered along the Puget Sound to celebrate a triumph of modern engineering. The opening of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Okay, so this was a very just normal bridge that they had built, but pretty conventional. It was pretty sleek in the design, but it was also like the, it was economical at the same time pretty slender in its size. And I mean the, the architects, the engineers had done, they'd done all the math right. They had done all the calculations, they had calculated wind loads and all this, they, they, they, they're okay. You know, there's something called tensile strength. They worked. They figured out the tensile strength and they figured all the different forces against it. And the, whenever they first built it, like at the very beginning, the bridge, it. It behaved exactly as predicted. Okay. Everything was, was just fine. And then shortly after, though, it began to move a little bit. And it wasn't like dramatic movements. They were, it was like nothing that was alarming. Right. This is b. PR I love, I love this story so much because you can probably predict what the end is going to be when it comes to this bridge, but it, it starts to move a little bit. Nothing alarming for anyone, but it, like, it rippled. So when people are driving across it, drivers noticed that it would ripple as they drove across it, which is, as you can imagine, kind of a unsettling feeling, right? It's. It's kind of what is going on here. And it was like, it was gentle, right? And they, some people described it as if the roadway was breathing, which is kind of an interesting way of putting it. And you know, as time went by, you know, people just kind of, they, oh, this kind of got used to it. It was like just part of the bridge. It was like there little character. And they, they actually gave it a nickname. They called it Galloping Gertie. Okay. That was the name of it. And it's one of those things where like, it's like an affectionate name for it, right? They. Which is kind of interesting part of it too, because you don't, it's not, you don't. You don't really nickname something if it terrifies you. Not usually. So they gave it a cute little nickname and so they kind of viewed it as harmless. And then four months later, the bridge collapsed. I mean, completely just collapsed. All the work that they had done gone. And what's interesting is like the bridge, it didn't fail because of like there was like some single violent gust of wind or some massive storm that came through. It actually failed because of the repetition of the small, little bitty nudges and movements like these really subtle oscillations. It was just, just small enough to ignore. And the thing is like that if those are repeated often enough, they begin to amplify over time. So on that day, unfortunately, the wind had struck the deck just the right frequency, just the right amount of times. And what happened was the. The bridge responded and then it. It was one of the things where it. Then it kind of invited more wind, and then the Pattern intensified and it kind of built up and you had this like, resonance built into it. And then the collapse happened. It. And apparently it. I mean, this was a long time ago, but apparently people described it as very cinematic. It was. And I, And I think that part of this is like the story is not. It's not really in the final minutes of. Was really in the months before when things just seemed manageable, they seemed okay. And the reason why I had this in the book was I, I feel like kind of as. As law firm owners, founders, we live on bridges like this. And in the early stages of a firm that, like having all that gravity in one place or. Because a lot of it comes down to gravity. And I'll, I'll kind of connect the dots in a second, but in the early stages, it all just kind of feels efficient, right? Because we're all doing. We're doing everything. Whenever you're first out of the firm, if it, If a decision needs to be made, you make it. Okay. If a client needs reassurance on something, you provide that reassurance to them. If numbers need to be, you know, interpreted for a bookkeeper, well, you. Who does it? You do. You're the law firm owner. You're the founder. And the reality is you are the most competent person in the firm. You undoubtedly are. You to this day, you probably are. Are the most competent person in the room. That's my guess. For. For the ma. Vast majority of you, you know, even for those of you more established firms, the shortest path between a problem and a solution runs directly through you. It works. It's one of the things that it works at first, just like the bridge at work, this works for you at first. Okay? And there, when it comes to, like, there is a part of this where, like psychologists call it the competence trap, where the better you are at solving something, the more often the system sends you. Sends it back to you. Because you've built this system where it's just coming back to you because you're more. Because you're better at it. And some of you, we do this to our employees sometimes too, right? Where you. You've got a really competent employee, and then what happens is, is we just kind of. It's that confidence trap where we're just starting to unload things on that really competent employee. And then you wear the employee out. Your strength or their, Their strength attracts more of that, that same demand over and over again. And each decision, it. It. It just kind of feels more productive, right? It just feels that way. So every Time you look at something, every time you review something, it. It reinforces your in indispensability. And so you think that every time some conflict comes to you, you're the, you're the stabilizing effect. That's what you think. And then but slowly just like those little ripples, okay without any sort of big announcement, without some big storm, without any, any, anything big happening, that mass, it starts to concentrate on you, okay. So that, that gravity, you start to build that gravity more as time goes by. It's those little ripples on the bridge, right? Little bitty ripples, little bitty ripples. It kind of builds and builds and builds. And in this. So what I called it when it comes to this chapter is I actually. And we again, this one's not in there. I called it gravitational debt is what I was calling it. And so it's one of those things where it, it can, it's okay at first, right? Where it's like not. It's not a debt that, that appears on a balance sheet so you can't really see it. It's. It's. So it's all, it's invisible, right? You lot of times you don't even know it's there. But it is there, right? It is, it is building and building and building. And because like a lot of us think like is burnout is like this big loud thing, right? Burnout is usually the collapse is, is really the build up to the burnout. It's one of those things where it's not super noticeable. It's. It's that one extra call you take a day. It's those three extra emails that you're reviewing on the weekends. It's oh, you missed that 1T ball game. It's. It's this just development of things of piling on and piling on and piling piling on and then the burnout. And when it finally hits, that's the collapse in the bridge. That's what happens. It's the moment that the bridge gives way which is obviously a, a big, a really big problem. So this is so to kind of. This is why I brought. I wanted this story. This is why I want to talk about this story. Because I. And here's the thing, I'm probably going to do this maybe a few more times when it comes to some of these chapters. I may not even, I may not even tell you. I may just, you know, talk about it because there are these things I think are in the book that I think are really using examples. The reason Why I like these so much is using these examples that you can visualize that can be very, very powerful. That's why I'll probably use them on the show to talk a little bit more. I think that they are still powerful messages. Now, I also love the fact that we've taken real stories of real attorneys and put them into the book. A lot of them are people that we've had on the show. Not all of them, but the vast majority of them are people we've had on the show. People like Tiffany Weber and Mark Harlan and several others where we've, you know, Jordan Ostroff is. Is in the book. So there's, there's lots of people that we've mentioned in the book that have told their story on the show or on the stage at Max law con and maxwell.com get your tickets for October, by the way. But the, the Earl. I like that part of it, too. I love. I, I think I would much rather have people come on and tell their stories. But these messages are still really, really powerful, in my opinion, because you could visualize it. And I think 80 of the population is a visual learner as opposed to the other sorts. So that's, that's part of the reason why we're talking about. But let's go. Let's get back to this chapter because I. This, this is actually a fairly long chapter, so I'm not gonna. I can go through the entire thing, but I do want to talk about just a couple other highlights on it. And because it's. It is one of those things where this type of gravitational debt or however you want to put. I, I'm sort of a, you know, I'm not totally adopting that term anymore. But it is one of those things where as you. It's sort of a gravitational buildup is really what it is, where it unfortunately can take some sort of an external shock to expose it. And that's what's unfortunate about it. And that's. And I do mention some of this. I just use it in a different way in the revised version of the book where it's usually like some sort of like a health scare or you have like some sort of like, really big missed milestone in your personal life, or you have a key person in the firm, a key leader in the firm that leaves unexpectedly or for some, some firms, sometimes the economy has a massive impact on how the firm is doing. So if you have some sort of economic downturn, that can have a significant effect on it. And in those moments, a lot of times what happens is these. These founders, they just. They're like. I just didn't. Didn't see it coming, or I. I didn't realize how much I was really caring. That's. That's how it. It. That's how it hits. It hits in a really big way. And because I. It was. It was not just like carrying a couple extra tasks, right? They were carrying everything. They were carrying this massive load, plus all the stress that comes on with it, and it all kind of concentrates on you, and then it just becomes too much, right? It's like that one extra thing just becomes. It's. It is the straw that breaks the back, right? And that's. That's what's. What's unfortunate about it. And it does usually take this really big thing. And the other part of this is that growth amplifies this. So as you're beginning to grow, especially if you have those ripples, as you begin to scale, those ripples become waves, and that could cause a really significant crash because you have. Now you have these. And sometimes you have these fractures in the bridge, whereas you're beginning to grow. You've. You've developed these fractures early in the development of the firm. They're never caught, and they turn these massive chasms where the. The bridge collapse in a really monumental way. And in the revised version, I actually use some examples of that actually happening of some really big firms. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna give away everything that I talk about in the actual book, but there's. I do talk about some moments of some monumental failures with some firms because, you know, usually comes down to the masses concentrated on one person. That's usually what it comes down to. There's no one else to absorb that load. So. All right, I think that's all I'm gonna cover today when it comes to this. I'm not gonna get in. And we don't really have any other stories that I could fit in the next, you know, 10 minutes, so I'm probably gonna. I'll. I'll address those on a. On another show. Make sure you get your tickets to maxlawcon.com we have our conference coming in October. Make sure you check out Becca's list co. Find out the best founders or best vendors for your firm. 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Maximum Lawyer — “The Chapter I Cut From My New Book That You Still Need to Hear”
Host: Tyson Mutrux
Date: July 11, 2026
In this solo episode, Tyson Mutrux returns to Facebook Live and offers a special behind-the-scenes look at his forthcoming book, Founder Optional. Specifically, he discusses a chapter he ultimately cut from the manuscript—one that uses the story of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse to illustrate the dangers of “gravitational debt” for law firm owners. Tyson reflects on the challenges faced by founders in managing growth, responsibility, and the slow build-up of burnout. He shares lessons learned, the reasoning behind editorial choices, and how visual stories can convey powerful leadership messages.
Tyson closes the episode by reaffirming the importance of delegation, self-awareness, and learning from other firm owners. He hints at sharing more unused analogies and encourages listeners to check out upcoming opportunities and resources from the Maximum Lawyer community.
This summary provides the core insights, practical lessons, and memorable moments from the episode—perfect for anyone seeking leadership wisdom without having to listen to the full show.