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Episode: He Was Declared Dead, Left His Body, Traveled Across States, and Later Described a Town He’d Never Visited—One of the Most Astonishing Near-Death Experiences Recorded

Guest: Dr. Raymond Moody

Release Date: December 23, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode explores the phenomenon of near-death experiences (NDEs) and their implications for our understanding of consciousness, the afterlife, and the intersection of science and spirituality. Mayim Bialik and co-host Jonathan Cohen engage Dr. Raymond Moody—the physician, philosopher, and originator of the term “near-death experience”—in a wide-ranging, deeply inquisitive discussion about what NDEs reveal about the nature of existence and human perception. The episode also features memorable case studies, an exploration of ancient Greek practices regarding death and the soul, and Dr. Moody’s own groundbreaking “psychomantium” research.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Ubiquity of NDEs and Contact with the Afterlife

• Dr. Moody recounts family experiences during his mother’s passing where multiple relatives felt a presence or communication with deceased loved ones, illustrating how common near-death and shared death experiences are in contemporary society.

  • Quote: "Practically everybody knows somebody who is in touch with the afterlife." – Dr. Moody [00:22]

• Mayim highlights that the once-fringe topic of NDEs is now widely discussed, with high percentages of bereaved individuals reporting contact with the deceased.

Origins of the NDE Concept

• Dr. Moody explains his philosophical and historical roots in approaching NDEs, referencing Plato and the idea that ancient Greeks were familiar with death-related visions and soul journeys.
  • Quote: "All the ancient Greek philosophers knew about oracles of the dead. People would go through there and they would have experiences and converse with their dead relatives." – Dr. Moody [00:33]
• The progression from philosophical anecdote to clinical research is traced, emphasizing that heart-revivals via CPR have prompted an explosion in reported NDEs in recent decades.

Core Aspects of Near-Death Experiences (NDEs)

• Jonathan and Mayim enumerate hallmark features shared among NDEs:
  • Life review (seeing one's life "flash before their eyes")
  • Timelessness; sense of being outside of normal time
  • Ineffability (“words can't encapsulate it”)
  • Overwhelming colors and heightened senses
  • Instant, telepathic knowledge (“a download”)
  • No fear of dying, deep focus on love and connection, appreciation for small moments, changes in destiny/sense of control, and sometimes, acquisition of psychic abilities
  • Quote: "People who have an NDE come out with a very similar set of changes. The fear of dying is gone." – Mayim [07:54]

Dr. George Ritchie's NDE: Traveling Out of State While Dead

• Mayim recounts Dr. George Ritchie’s famous case (from December 1943), considered the “best out-of-body experience” by Dr. Moody:
  • Dr. Ritchie, declared dead in Texas, describes leaving his body, instantaneously traveling to Virginia, and later physically recognizing a town he’d “visited” only while clinically dead.
  • He detailed the town’s geography accurately, shocking acquaintances and suggesting perceptual abilities beyond ordinary consciousness.
  • Notable for physical documentation: Dr. Ritchie was declared dead twice and later revived by hospital staff.
  • Quote: "He remembered the geography of an entire town that he had never been to with his body." – Mayim [14:07]

Conceptual Barriers and the Limits of Science

• Dr. Moody critiques the Western reliance on the scientific method for existential questions, calling for “conceptual thinking”—a return to philosophical rigor and logic to approach the mystery of the afterlife.

  • "The solution to the afterlife problem is not science. In 2025, the question of life after death is the most important question of existence. And it is also not yet a scientific question." – Dr. Moody [70:12]

• He challenges self-identified “skeptics” and the “afterlife establishment,” arguing that both parapsychologists and skeptics often misunderstand or ignore the philosophical complexities involved.

  • Quote: "The folks who say, ‘Oh, I'm a skeptic about these near death experiences, I think it's just the chemistry of the brain.’ Their kind of statement is a self-contradiction." [33:23]

Shared Death and Parallel Dreams

• Dr. Moody describes his own family’s shared death experience, emphasizing that bystanders often witness aspects of the dying process (apparitions, presence of deceased relatives, unexplained senses or communications).

  • Quote: "Bystanders say: As grandma died, I myself got out of my body and rose up with her partway toward this light. Or…I saw the apparitions of my grandmother's deceased relatives coming in the room to take her away." [41:22]

• Discussion extends into "parallel dreams" and "precognitive dreams," where multiple people share vivid, overlapping dream experiences sometimes tied to real future events.

The Psychomantium Experiment: Modern Oracles of the Dead

• Dr. Moody outlines his recreation of the ancient Greek "oracle of the dead" (psychomantium): a dark room with a mirror where participants, prepared to reflect deeply on a departed loved one, often have vivid encounters, sometimes seeing the deceased step out of the mirror into the room.
  • "Not only did he appear in the mirror, he stepped out of the mirror into the room." – Dr. Moody [66:28]
  • In his trials, about 50% “saw” the person they were seeking, even though participants were highly trained professionals unlikely to be easily influenced or suggestible (e.g., counselors, psychiatrists).
  • Sometimes, unexpected deceased individuals appeared, not the ones participants had focused on.
  • Quote: "If we're opening some portal, it doesn't mean that the person that you want to come through is going to come through." – Mayim [88:17]

Rational Inquiry vs. Storytelling

• Dr. Moody distinguishes between the emotional impact of narrative stories and the challenging philosophical logic needed to advance true understanding of consciousness after death.
  • He claims to have devised a new logical framework (“nonsense logic”) for this inquiry, outlined in his manuscript “Swan Song,” seeking feedback from analytic thinkers.
  • Quote: "Raymond Moody will be the person who figured out nonsense logic." – Dr. Moody [78:28]

The Intersection of Family, Ancestral Support & Healing

• Mayim and Jonathan discuss how ancestral presence is felt in therapy practices (e.g., Family Constellation work), dreams, and end-of-life experiences—pointing to possible continuities between psychological well-being, familial lineage, and post-mortem consciousness.
  • Quote: "If physiologically I don't believe I can heal, I don't believe I should be able to heal…Then the healing practices aren't going to hold." – Jonathan [102:18]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• "Practically everybody knows somebody who is in touch with the afterlife." – Dr. Moody [00:22]
• "All the ancient Greek philosophers knew about oracles of the dead. People would go through there and they would have experiences and converse with their dead relatives." – Dr. Moody [00:33]
• "People who have an NDE come out with a very similar set of changes. The fear of dying is gone." – Mayim [07:54]
• Dr. George Ritchie's vision:
  "He remembered the geography of an entire town that he had never been to with his body." – Mayim [14:07]
• "The folks who say, ‘Oh, I'm a skeptic about these near death experiences, I think it's just the chemistry of the brain.’ Their kind of statement is a self-contradiction." – Dr. Moody [33:23]
• Moody’s own family’s shared death:
  "My perception was that the space I was in bent and it, it widened out at the top and at the bottom, and there was a very narrow intermediate space which was tending to rotate… I heard my mother say twice, I love you, although she wasn't moving her mouth." – Dr. Moody [42:52]
• On the psychomantium:
  "Not only did he appear in the mirror, he stepped out of the mirror into the room." – Dr. Moody [66:28]
• "If we're opening some portal, it doesn't mean that the person that you want to come through is going to come through." – Mayim [88:17]
• "The solution to the afterlife problem is not science. In 2025, the question of life after death is the most important question of existence. And it is also not yet a scientific question." – Dr. Moody [70:12]
• "Raymond Moody will be the person who figured out nonsense logic." – Dr. Moody [78:28]

Important Segments & Timestamps

• Family shared death experiences & societal prevalence [00:00–00:24]
• Definition and origin of NDEs / Ancient Greek perspective [00:32–00:59]
• Core NDE characteristics (by Mayim & Jonathan) [06:14–09:11]
• Dr. George Ritchie's story—case details [11:13–14:43]
• Discussion of skepticism, philosophy versus science [27:27–36:20]
• Dr. Moody’s own shared death experience [41:22–42:52]
• Psychomantium experiment details & findings [57:19–69:49] & [88:17–90:01]
• Shared death, dreams, and family experiences [91:10–103:42]
• Legacy and the future of afterlife inquiry [78:28–78:50]

Flow & Tone

• The conversation is open, curious, occasionally playful, and deeply philosophical.
• Mayim and Jonathan approach the subject with both earnest fascination and healthy skepticism.
• Dr. Moody is humble, witty, and critical of superficial approaches—urging analytical rigor but also humility in the face of the great mysteries.

Summary Takeaways

• NDEs and related phenomena are reported much more commonly than most realize; advances in medical resuscitation have enabled a cultural reckoning with these experiences.
• Dr. Moody argues that both scientific materialism and naive credulity are insufficient: the next breakthrough in understanding the afterlife requires conceptual, even paradoxical, philosophical rigor—not just stories or clinical anecdotes.
• Experiments like the psychomantium reflect an ongoing attempt to bridge ancient wisdom and modern research, yielding eye-opening results on the permeability of consciousness.
• The soul, consciousness, and the afterlife are, as of now, not scientifically provable—but philosophical exploration offers a compelling way forward.
• Shared death experiences, parallel dreams, and phenomena described by both ancient and modern witnesses continue to challenge simplistic, materialist views of reality.

For listeners and skeptics alike, this episode powerfully spotlights the need to approach life’s greatest mystery—what happens after death—with deep humility, creativity, and a willingness to “think about unintelligible things.”