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Episode: "New Quantum Science: Deepak Chopra Explains Telepathy, Simulation Theory & How to Break Old Patterns to Increase Your Potential!"

Guest: Dr. Deepak Chopra
Date: March 14, 2025

Episode Overview

In this expansive and often mind-bending episode, neuroscientist and actress Mayim Bialik (with co-host Jonathan Cohen) sits down with Dr. Deepak Chopra to unpack the intersections between ancient wisdom, quantum science, artificial intelligence, consciousness, telepathy, and what it means to "wake up" as humans at a critical evolutionary crossroads. The conversation traverses the nature of reality, the hard problem of consciousness, simulation theory, the practical applications of AI for personal evolution, extrasensory abilities, and why love—and the willingness to break old patterns—may hold the key to our unlimited potential.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Are We at an Evolutionary Crossroads?

• Chopra positions humanity at a moment of profound transformation:

  "We are at a very critical crossroads in our evolution. You're going to see the emergence of a new human species, maybe extra sensory perception and remote viewing and all of that." (00:00)

• Mayim and Jonathan underscore the blend of metaphysical and scientific perspectives this transition entails, including integrating AI and ancient wisdom.

2. What Is the Universe Made Of?

• Chopra succinctly summarizes the limits of current scientific understanding:
  • 70% of the universe is "dark energy"—a force we don't understand (opposite of gravity).
  • 27% is "dark matter," inferred only by its gravitational effects.
  • ~3% is atomic matter, yet most of that is invisible interstellar dust.
• The visible universe is a tiny fragment of reality; the rest is “unknown or unknowable.”

  "The only guess we have...it's made of nothing." (10:20)

3. Simulation & Cosmic Consciousness: Is Reality Illusory?

• Chopra references simulation theory:

  "There's no universe, okay? The universe is a cosmic dream. It's a simulation from a digital workshop outside of space and time." (11:09)

• This concept aligns with Eastern philosophical traditions and mysticism:

  "The universe is the appearance of cosmic consciousness." (12:19) “The world is wearing a mask.” (12:52)

• Note: Mayim and Jonathan draw connections to Kabbalah, Sufi mysticism, and Western philosophy, highlighting perennial parallels.

4. AI as Catalyst for Human Evolution

• Chopra introduces his “Cyberhuman AI” platform, using AI as an extension and amplifier of both ancient wisdom and modern knowledge.

• AI’s large language models have the potential to reshape not just culture but biology:

  "The more knowledge you acquire, the brain networks adjust to, and then your epigenetic modulation occurs. So we will see a new human species in 20 years." (17:35)

• Mayim brings personal context about neuroplasticity, generational change, and how technological environments shape human minds and bodies.

5. Conditioning, Perception & Infinite Possibility

• Chopra challenges the materialist worldview:

  "We only see things that we believe in. So seeing is not believing. It's the other way around." (22:44)

• Our perceptions are products of conditioning—cultural, emotional, spiritual, neural. Studies on animals demonstrate perception is shaped by environmental exposure.

  "Matter is not the ontological primitive of the universe. Consciousness is." (23:01)

• Practically, breaking through one's conditioning unlocks new possibilities:

  "We can see through the belief into the world of infinite possibilities, the mind of God." (27:02)

6. Quantum Mechanics, Consciousness, and Qualia

• Chopra draws parallels between quantum indeterminacy and the mind:

  “You are at the most fundamental level in a superposition of infinite possibilities of experience.” (27:54)

• Suggests a new science—“qualia mechanics”—where experiences are as quantum as particles, emphasizing the unpredictability and richness of consciousness.

7. Intuition, Creativity & AI’s Limits

• AI can simulate but not originate: true creativity and intuition "disrupt the algorithm."

  "True intuition is far superior to anything in the realm of rational thought...it eavesdrops on the mind of God." (28:36)

• Chopra actively challenges AI's "physicalist bias" in conversations, showing that worldview can shape even the outputs of AI.

  “Whenever it gives Me what I think is the wrong answer...I say, you have a physicalist bias. Why don’t you look at this, this and this.” (30:55)

8. Practical Paths to Breaking Old Patterns

• The path to unlocking potential is finding passion beyond conditioned beliefs:

  "What are you passionate about? What actually really moves you?" (32:56)

• Chopra and the hosts share stories of listeners and clients who, by shifting mindset and risking new avenues, found flourishing careers and fulfillment.

• Quote:

  “Once they do, the money and whatever, the time is a byproduct.” (33:09)

9. Synchronicity, Intuition, and Dormant Human Potentials

• Chopra emphasizes synchronicity and intuition as “non-local” (beyond time and space) potentials available to everyone.

• Example of real-world “telepathy tapes":

  “This kid... is typing what [his mother] is reading. I asked the kid: ‘How do you do it?’ He says, ‘I love my mother so much. ...I can get into her mind, then I know what she's thinking.’” (38:15, 38:23)

• Telepathy explained as "non-local correlation or entanglement," akin to quantum phenomena.

10. Love as the Ultimate Unifier and Healing Force

• Chopra cites Tagore:

  “Love is not a sentiment. It's the ultimate truth at the heart of creation. The ultimate truth where subject and object are one.” (39:23)

• Healing occurs via “limbic resonance,” leading to nervous system regulation and even neural rewiring, underlining the measurable power of love and attention.

  “Attention, affection, appreciation and acceptance... your brain changes.” (44:58, 45:37)

11. Experiencing Presence and Meditative Stillness

• Simple exercise: Pause before answering a question, to feel pure consciousness—the space between thoughts is “God’s mind.” (50:09–51:03)
• Quieting mind and body is the gateway to intuition, creativity, and breaking old patterns.
• Chopra details the eight “limbs” of yoga—moving far beyond physical postures to social/emotional intelligence, breathwork, and ultimately, transcendence.

  “Yoga... is a field of consciousness.” (52:51)

12. Are We Alone? Life Across the Universe

• Chopra affirms belief in extraterrestrial life based on current science and philosophical models:

  “According to astrobiologists, there is certainly life across the universe as we know it, not just microscopic life.” (54:12)

• Multiverse theory: Infinite versions of “you” exist.

  “...for us, they're all in the imagination of the divine.” (55:57)

13. Takeaway: Love & Openness as Evolutionary Imperatives

• Being open to possibility, slowing down, and learning to experience presence is essential for radical change.
• Love—in the broadest, most interconnected sense—is both means and end.

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On Perception & Conditioned Reality

  “Seeing is not believing. It’s the other way around.” — Deepak Chopra (22:44)

• On the Heart of Reality

  “Matter is not the ontological primitive of the universe. Consciousness is the ontological primitive of the universe.” — Deepak Chopra (23:01)

• On Passion & Purpose

  “What are you passionate about?...Once they do, the money...is a byproduct.” — Deepak Chopra (32:56, 33:09)

• On Intuition & God’s Mind

  “True intuition is far superior to anything in the realm of rational thought...it eavesdrops on the mind of God.” — Deepak Chopra (28:36) “God is what the mind becomes when it goes beyond the threshold of our comprehension.” — Freeman Dyson cited by Chopra (13:49)

• On Telepathy & Entanglement

  “I asked this kid: ‘How do you do it?’ He says, ‘I love my mother so much. ...I can get into her mind, then I know what she's thinking.’” — Deepak Chopra recalling his telepathy experiment (38:15, 38:23) “What is love in this context of telepathy?...It means non local correlation or entanglement.” — Deepak Chopra (38:38)

• On Healing & Presence

  “Attention, affection, appreciation and acceptance... your brain changes.” — Deepak Chopra (44:58, 45:37) “In between is you consciousness.” — Deepak Chopra, after asking listeners to pause between thoughts (50:51) “God’s mind is silence. Everything else is poor translation.” — Deepak Chopra (51:00)

Important Timestamps

• Cosmic Simulation and the Nature of Matter: 10:20–12:50
• Conditioning & Perception: 22:44–26:36
• Qualia Mechanics & Infinite Possibility: 27:40–29:55
• AI and Human Creativity: 30:02–31:20
• Synchronicity, Intuition, and Telepathy: 36:38–41:08
• Healing Through Love (Limbic Resonance): 44:58–46:03
• Practical Exercises for Presence: 49:50–51:00
• Yoga’s 8 Limbs and the Path to Stillness: 52:51–53:58
• Life Across the Universe & Multiverse Theory: 54:12–55:57

Practical Takeaways

• To Start Your Transformational Journey:

  • Learn to quiet the mind: Practice pausing and feeling the space between thoughts.
  • Break free from conditioned beliefs; notice your limiting narratives.
  • Cultivate attention, affection, appreciation, and acceptance—for yourself and others.
  • Stay open to intuition and possibility—each experience can change your genetic and neural potential.
  • Follow your true passion, unbound by societal or economic expectations.

• On Love and Connection:

  • Deep, loving attention can lead to physiological healing and transformation.
  • What we call "telepathy" or extrasensory ability may be expressions of profound interconnectedness—“entanglement of souls.”

Memorable Wrap-Up

• The Ultimate Principle:

  “Love is the answer. Love is the way that people can communicate in ways that are beyond the material world.” — Mayim Bialik (57:14)

• The Entry Point:

  “That means you have to learn how to breathe and start paying attention to your body. That's it. Like, that's, that's how you get there.” — Mayim Bialik (59:55)

Further Exploration

• Deepak Chopra’s Projects: Cyberhuman AI, Digital Dharma, upcoming course on dormant human potentials
• Recommended Reading/Guests: Nick Bostrom (Simulation Theory), Thomas Campbell (Consciousness), Sean Carroll (Multiverse Physics)
• Referenced Studies: Animal sensory conditioning, limbic resonance, telepathy experiments

This episode merges cosmic speculation, rigorous inquiry, and practical wisdom for unlocking human potential, making a persuasive case for why science and spirituality are not just compatible, but mutually necessary for our individual and collective evolution.

(For full effect, dive into the in-episode exercises and try Chopra’s presence meditation at 49:50.)