Part Two: Bashar’s Warning: Extraterrestrial Contact In 2027, Humanity’s Reset, UFO Disclosure & How To Create Your Reality | Darryl Anka

Summary

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Mayim Bialik's Breakdown — Part Two: Bashar’s Warning: Extraterrestrial Contact In 2027, Humanity’s Reset, UFO Disclosure & How To Create Your Reality | Darryl Anka

Release Date: March 25, 2026
Guests: Darryl Anka (channeler of Bashar)
Hosts: Mayim Bialik & Jonathan Cohen

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Overview

In this compelling continuation, Mayim and Jonathan dive even deeper with Darryl Anka, renowned for channeling communications from Bashar, an alleged extraterrestrial hybrid. The trio explores the mechanics of channeling, the upcoming alleged ET contact, the structure and purpose of reality according to Bashar, the principles for manifesting change, and how both science and spirituality intersect on these topics.

Anka discusses what’s ahead for humanity, how we interact with non-physical consciousness, the nature of healing and synchronicity, and Bashar’s guidance for preparing for imminent "disclosure." This part balances curiosity with open skepticism, weaving in practical advice for listeners interested in consciousness, metaphysics, and (potential) first contact.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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The Nature & Experience of Channeling Bashar

[02:08–04:38]

• Darryl Anka’s Channeling Mechanics: Darryl describes the early exhaustion from channeling ("for the first two years, every time I did it, I would be exhausted. Afterward... now it energizes me." — Daryl, 02:46).
• Channeling feels like "driving a car, but now you shift over to the passenger side and somebody else is driving." (Daryl, 03:40)
• He seldom remembers the exact words post-session—only concepts, like waking from a vivid dream (Daryl, 04:12).
• The hosts note his changed “countenance” and speech patterns during channel sessions, emphasizing the authenticity of the altered state.

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Lucid Dreams, Astral Projection, & Pre-Session Meetings

[04:42–07:05]

• Jonathan shares a dream featuring free fall and peace, which Darryl suggests may be "astral projection" or a "pre-session meeting" with Bashar (Daryl, 06:18).
• Anka explains astral projection as consciousness “relaxing the physical focus and expanding into the nonphysical realm” (Daryl, 06:25).

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The Unconditional Nature of Love and the Purpose of Negativity

[07:15–08:21]

• “You are so loved unconditionally by creation that you can even choose to believe that you are not loved.” — Jonathan quoting Bashar, 07:15
• Darryl clarifies, "You're trusting in lack. That's how unconditionally loved you are — you have free will to ignore the love" (Daryl, 07:52).
• Soul lessons occur over many lifetimes, so don’t despair over one incomplete journey, as “everyone will get it at some point." (Daryl, 07:58)

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The Formula: Following Your Passion, Raising Vibration, and Making Contact

[08:47–11:06]

• Anka is now teaching the “formula” for personal development and spiritual growth (Daryl, 08:47).
• Key Principle: “The most important thing is to follow your passion…You raise your vibrational frequency. That makes you a better receiver for higher frequency information.” (Daryl, 09:35)
• “You cannot perceive what you are not the vibration of.” (Daryl, 09:57)
• Societal example: Bashar’s civilization "has so much inertia, so much momentum energetically…no one would think about trying to go and make some negative choice." (Daryl, 10:36)

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Coping with Uncertainty and Trust

[11:06–13:13]

• Mayim expresses generational disillusionment and lack of trust in leadership, to which Darryl responds:
• “There’s no such thing as a lack of trust. There is, however, a trust in lack. We’re always trusting something to be true, but are you trusting what works for you or what doesn’t work for you?” (Daryl, 12:00)
• Bashar’s humor: “You’re confident that you’re not confident.” (Daryl, 12:10)

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Personal Application: Challenging Beliefs, Facing Death, and Service to Others

[18:05–20:58]

• Anka emphasizes the automatic nature of our limiting beliefs: “That’s a belief that it’s hard to break out of. That’s just a belief.” (Daryl, 18:13)
• "Death is like the finish of our school year...we're going back to decide how to use the lessons we learned here." (Daryl, 19:10)
• Everything can serve double duty — even negative experiences teach or serve others.

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Relationship with Bashar & Life Integration

[19:23–21:34]

• Channeling Bashar has made Darryl less reactive and more emotionally balanced: “I know now everything can serve double duty...it doesn't matter what happens. It matters what you do with what happens.” (Daryl, 19:34).
• Bashar doesn’t make personal decisions for Darryl: “It wouldn’t be a real relationship if he was trying to run me. And he has his life. I have my life.” (Daryl, 21:09)
• Bashar’s channeling will end when open extraterrestrial contact occurs: "Once extraterrestrials are physically here, there would be no reason to have to channel him.” (Daryl, 21:30)

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The Phases of Contact: Disclosure, Hybrids, & Alien Integration

[21:45–26:26]

• Hybrid Extraterrestrials: “They may...look enough like us that they can be among us...they have been among us for a long time” (Daryl, 21:45)
• Public Disclosure Timeline: “2026 is the year of disclosure...it will culminate [in 2027] in the idea of an official public presentation.” (Daryl, 24:49, 24:46)
• Gradual integration: “The hybrids that have already been here...will be introduced first...then over time, more ‘alien’ types.” (Daryl, 23:54)
• If the event doesn’t happen: “Absolutely...But it will happen. It’s inevitable at this point.” (Daryl, 24:36)
• On resistance to aliens: Their technology is superior; “they can’t get shot.” They would treat human resistance like tantrums: “Not annoyed — just waiting for the child to settle down.” (Daryl, 25:53)

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Proof, Transparency, and Safety

[26:19–27:34]

• Public proof will be TV news-style reports of UFOs, then followed by official government disclosures (Daryl, 26:26).
• Aliens have already demonstrated power: “Ships over, missile silos off. We’ve seen that several times.” (Daryl, 27:13)
• “They're showing us we won't have a war...we won't be able to launch against one another.” (Daryl, 27:29)
• On human fear of invasion: “With their level of advanced technology, they could have done this a hundred times over...They’ve been around for millions of years." (Daryl, 27:42)

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Consciousness, Intelligence, and Healing

[28:03–29:32]

• True intelligence sees all parts of the system as necessary; no intelligent advanced race would destroy itself by damaging a part of its network (Daryl, 28:15).
• Spontaneous Healing: “A healer never heals anyone directly...a healer puts out a vibrational frequency that represents the healed state. If the person...matches that frequency, they will heal themselves.” (Daryl, 28:45)
• Sometimes, illness serves a lesson for the individual or those around them; if a lesson is complete, healing can occur (Daryl, 29:32).

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Guardian Angels, Spirit Teams & Near Death

[30:43–33:07]

• “Everyone has a spirit team, sometimes hundreds of beings.” (Daryl, 30:49)
• Guardian angels (birth angels) “keep you on the planet until you have agreed to leave.” Survival “miracles” are angels intervening if it’s not your time (Daryl, 30:54).
• “You can always talk to [your angels], but they help you figure out how to do things yourself.” (Daryl, 32:15)
• ET energy can trigger the "vibration of spirit"—which can cause panic or a sense of impending death, but it’s actually harmless (Daryl, 32:34).

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Addiction & Disconnection from Source

[34:18–34:53]

• “Addiction from Bashar’s point of view is trying to fill an emptiness...either attempting to numb it so you don’t feel it, or trying to fill it with something that will never fill it.” (Daryl, 34:18)
• Paradox of digital age: “When we have an Internet that connects all of us, we feel more disconnected than ever.” (Daryl, 34:53)

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Creativity as a Spiritual Practice; Building Escape Rooms

[35:10–36:48]

• Balancing the “grounded, practical stuff with the creative stuff” is important for full human experience, and both can be approached as spiritual practice (Daryl, 35:10).
• Darryl and his wife created an escape room business as another form of creative storytelling when filmmaking “didn’t make a great living” (Daryl, 36:06).

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The Formula (Book) & Bashar Resources

[37:11–37:29]

• Mayim recommends “The Formula” and notes its logical, clear structure for practical self-development.
• Upcoming workbook edition will feature exercises for “locking in the concepts.”
• Resources: bashar.org, boggledescaperooms.com, darrylanka.com (Daryl, 37:29).

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Final Messages for Listeners

[38:05–39:13]

• “Following all the steps of the formula...it does work. I have always refused to do anything that was not representative of my passion...it has always supported me, always. There are many forms of abundance...Allow all forms of abundance to be equally valuable. Allow it to flow to you more automatically and more naturally, and you will be taken care of.” (Daryl, 38:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On unconditional love:
  “You are so loved unconditionally by creation that you can even choose to believe that you are not loved.”
  — Jonathan Cohen quoting Bashar (07:15)

• On transformation:
  “You can’t perceive what you’re not the vibration of.”
  — Daryl Anka (09:57)

• On trust:
  “There’s no such thing as a lack of trust. There is, however, a trust in lack.”
  — Daryl Anka (12:00)

• On healing:
  “A healer puts out a frequency representing the healed state. The one seeking healing must agree to mirror that state within themselves, thereby healing themselves.”
  — Daryl Anka (29:14)

• On abundance:
  “There are many forms of abundance, like synchronicity, like being given a gift...communication, imagination, time, and space are all forms of abundance.”
  — Daryl Anka (38:05)

• On “lacking confidence”:
  “When someone might come up to [Bashar] and say, you know, 'I'm not very confident,' he’ll say, 'Well, you're confident about that, aren't you?'”
  — Daryl Anka (12:10)

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Additional Reflections (From Hosts)

[39:47–44:00]

• Mayim compares Anka’s process to other channelers, noting each person’s unique approach and entry point.
• Discussion on meditative states and the measurable changes in brain function during channeling, including references to neuroscience (Richard Davidson, EEG studies).
• Mayim outlines Bashar’s "Five Laws of Existence," which are broad, logical, and not cultish—emphasizing existence, reflection, resonance, constant change, and practical principles.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:08 — Channeling state, energy, and experience
• 04:42 — Lucid dreams and astral projection
• 07:15 — On unconditional love and choice
• 09:35 — “Raising your vibration” to tune to higher info
• 12:00 — Bashar’s trust and confidence paradox
• 24:46 — Disclosure & ET contact predicted for 2026–2027
• 28:45 — Spontaneous healing explained
• 30:43 — Spirit team & guardian angels
• 34:18 — Addiction as disconnection from source
• 35:10 — Creativity as spiritual practice
• 38:05 — Final positive message on abundance and trust

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Tone and Style

• The conversation, while exploring unconventional topics, maintains a practical, open-minded, but still respectfully skeptical tone.
• Bashar’s humor, as channeled by Darryl, is highlighted as both a teaching tool and a tension-breaker.
• The episode is rich with concrete advice for those interested in spirituality, personal growth, or preparing for “what’s next.”

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking an in-depth but accessible account of the episode’s content, core beliefs, and unique energy.

Transcript

[Mayim Bialik]

Hi.

[Daryl Anka]

Hey, Sal. Hank, what's going on?

[Jonathan Cohen]

We haven't worked a case in years.

[Daryl Anka]

I just bought my car at Carvana

[Jonathan Cohen]

and it was so easy. Too easy.

[Daryl Anka]

Think something's up?

[Jonathan Cohen]

You tell me.

[Daryl Anka]

They got thousands of options, found a great car at a great price, and

[Mayim Bialik]

it got delivered the next day.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It sounds like Carvana just makes it

[Daryl Anka]

easy to buy your car, Hank. Yeah, you're right.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Case closed.

[Mayim Bialik]

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[Jonathan Cohen]

And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

[Mayim Bialik]

And welcome to part two of our conversation with Daryl Anka, a man born in Canada but raised in California, who for 41 years has been channeling information from an extraterrestrial hybrid named Bashar. In part one of our conversation, we spoke about how he came to realize that he could channel who Bashar is and what parallel reality he comes from, as well as the things that we will learn in the next two years about extraterrestrials on this planet. Please make sure to listen to part one of our conversation. And in part two, we're going to talk more about phases of contact, what disclosure will look like, how to use creativity as a spiritual connection, and what does it mean that we all have a spirit team made of guardian angels. Daryl's going to explain everything that he knows from both communication through Bashar as well as more about his experience as the channeler. Please enjoy part two of our conversation with Daryl Anka. Break it down. Here's a funny question. Does Bashar have a sense of humor?

[Daryl Anka]

Oh, absolutely. Constantly. That's one of the things people comment on the most, is that he has a very wry sense of humor.

[Mayim Bialik]

I've seen some of the, you know, the videos. There's a very specific countenance that you take on. It definitely. It doesn't seem like you. It's a. It's a different, you know, countenance.

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah.

[Mayim Bialik]

It's a different speech cadence. And, you know, it's very, very. It's very interesting. I'm curious if you can tell us a little bit about kind of what's the longest that you spend in that space. Is it exhausting? Like, what does it feel like either emotionally or somatically? Like, what are you aware of when you're channeling?

[Daryl Anka]

In the beginning, it was tough to take. I'd say for the first two years, every time I did it, I would be exhausted. Afterward. Once I started sort of letting go of anything that was sort of in the way of trusting it and just getting, you know, old ideas out and stuff like that, then it started energizing me. So now it energizes me. I'm left with that. The longest stint I think I ever channeled was about five hours. Now it's, on average 90 minutes to two hours.

[Mayim Bialik]

That's a long time, though, to be in that.

[Daryl Anka]

It doesn't feel like that, though. To me. It feels like maybe it's been 20 minutes.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I'm curious about the exhaustion part. Is it because you were nervous about what would be happening?

[Daryl Anka]

No. Too much energy. Not used to the energy.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Not used to the energy.

[Mayim Bialik]

Also, your brain is operating in a different state.

[Daryl Anka]

Like. Yes.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Have you ever thought, like, I'm not sure what to say or if I should.

[Daryl Anka]

I'm not saying anything. I never plan. No. Yeah. It's like. It's like you're driving a car, but now you shift over to the passenger side and somebody else is driving. You can look out the window and pay attention to other things, but I'm

[Jonathan Cohen]

always terrified that the person driving isn't going to do a good job.

[Daryl Anka]

Oh, well, I know he's going to do a good job. I don't have to worry about his driving record. He's been doing this for 41 years now with me, so.

[Jonathan Cohen]

But at the beginning, was there ever a time where you were a little bit of a nervous passenger or just kind of?

[Daryl Anka]

No, because I already knew that was what the research was about. I already knew it could be a helpful thing.

[Mayim Bialik]

And you remember everything?

[Daryl Anka]

I remember snippets of concepts that I need. I don't hear the words. That fades like a dream. So I'm aware there's something happening.

[Mayim Bialik]

You're in a different brain state.

[Daryl Anka]

Literally, I'm aware there's something happening. But you know how, like, you know, if you're, like, having a really strong daydream and somebody walks in the room and goes, mayim, Mayim. And you just, like, what? You know, you don't hear it for, like, the third time they call you. It's like that. The conversation might as well be happening in another room.

[Mayim Bialik]

I always have to call you three times before you listen to me, are you channeling?

[Jonathan Cohen]

I am. I am very focused. I had a dream last night that I have never had before in my life. And it shook me. And I'm wondering if the dream had anything to do with this podcast because I believe people come together and have a certain resonance and change to it.

[Daryl Anka]

I'm going to guess that it probably does, because that happens when Bashar does private sessions. He tells people, look, anytime I'm going to actually be talking to anyone physically through the channel, we always have a meeting in the dream state first to set it up.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Here's the quick version of the dream. I forget why I was. I was somewhere very high. It was either a plane, but it didn't feel like a plane, but I was like at a vantage point that was extremely high. And there was a quick negotiation and I was released from that vantage point and it was a free fall. And I passed a bird that was flying and I was like, oh, that's weird that I'm falling faster than this creature that should be able to go wherever it wants. And it's just an absolute free fall. And I'm like, oh, there was a moment of fear and then there was no fear at all. And I'm like, I'm just gonna land like a feather and I'll be totally in control of it. And it reminded me of dreams, a recurring dream that I've had a lot, which is that I can fly and sort of being in control of flight

[Daryl Anka]

is sort of like a typical astral

[Jonathan Cohen]

projection, most powerful, but I've never had it, that level of free fall. And what struck me was both the terror and then the sense of serene confidence and peace in that free fall.

[Daryl Anka]

You might have been close to experiencing lucidity in the astral form.

[Mayim Bialik]

Explain what an astral projection is.

[Daryl Anka]

Well, remember when I talked about the idea of how the soul. Okay, well then it's. It's that you have relaxed the idea of your physical focus and you have expanded back out to become. Your consciousness now is in the non physical realm, but not all the way out. So you're still connected to the vibration of the physical realm, but you're able to transcend it and go wherever you want to go within a certain, you know, amount of parameter. But you're now freer to explore different things because you're not limited by any physical boundary. So it's your consciousness moving. This is also similar to remote viewing. It's a form of astral projection. It's more of out of body travel.

[Mayim Bialik]

I Had a dream I had a gigantic tumor on my face. Should we talk about that?

[Daryl Anka]

That might be something else.

[Mayim Bialik]

Just kind of dropping that in there. Just to say, who knows?

[Jonathan Cohen]

That leads me to another one of the principles. You are so loved unconditionally by creation that you can even choose to believe that you are not loved.

[Daryl Anka]

That's how unconditionally loved you are.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Yeah, I mean, there's something both profound and very sad in that, for me. Profound in that there's a force that exists that we just have to recognize. And the sadness is that there isn't some more guidance to help pick people up who are really struggling.

[Daryl Anka]

But it is there. But you have absolute free will to ignore it because that's.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I think the sadness is the people who, for whatever reason haven't felt it yet or are choosing.

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah, but your sadness is temporally based. And what I mean by that is remember that souls are actually eternal and infinite. And therefore everyone's always going to have another choice and another choice and another choice and another choice. It never ends. So everyone will get it at some point. There's no reason to be sad if they don't get it in one particular life. That's the way that life went. They'll learn from it.

[Mayim Bialik]

In terms of the principles and in particular, you know, the wisdom that you have and the formula, you know, in terms of this. Is this something that you have an agreement with Bashar, you know, to be able to articulate this and to, you know, package it right. In a way that people can have access to. Is this something that is an agreement of sorts of.

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah. Because I'll be at this point, now that I understand that as deeply as I do, I will actually start teaching classes on this. Because in any 90 minute channeling event, it's not enough time for people to really grasp the concepts. So I'll be doing week long, two week long courses, hours and hours a day. So that through talking and also illustrations and demonstrations and what have you, people can really lock into the concepts, make them their own and apply them in their lives to get an effect. So, yeah, I know enough about it to be able to do that now. And I've been starting to do that at certain events I go to, I will sometimes teach like one part of the class.

[Jonathan Cohen]

How do people start to open up their intuition or telepathic capability?

[Daryl Anka]

Well, again, the most important thing is to follow your passion. Because when you do act on your passion, what happens? You raise your vibrational frequency. And when you raise your vibrational frequency, what Happens you become a better receiver or a better antenna for higher frequency information and higher frequency abilities. And so it just goes hand in hand. I mean, in a sense, from Bashar's point of view. And now I understand this, this is just physics. You can't perceive what you're not. The vibration of you have to be equal to the vibration of something. You have to be there first before you can perceive that. And when you're operating on a higher level, you can't have anything but the thoughts that go with that level. The only way to have more negative thoughts is to leave that level and go down to a lower vibration that is commensurate with those negative thoughts. Everything has its level.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I've heard it described as there's a point of no return when you start to explore healing and personal development, where you kind of realize that there's a tipping point.

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah, absolutely. Bashar talked about that for his own civilization. He basically said, look, we've been making positive choices in our society for so long. It would actually be a challenge for us to choose something negative. There's so much inertia, so much momentum energetically in our collective society that no one would even think about trying to go and make some negative choice. He said it would actually be difficult for them to do that. They would struggle to go negatively at this point.

[Mayim Bialik]

I think, especially with kind of what the world feels like now, you know, there's a lot of, I think, extra uncertainty. I think there's a lack of trust, you know, in, you know, whether it's lack of trust in leadership or in the news that's reporting on the leadership. You know, it feels like a very confusing time. And, you know, as. As a parent of a teenager and someone in college, like, I'm also hearing, you know, from young people who feel very disillusioned.

[Daryl Anka]

Absolutely.

[Mayim Bialik]

What, what would you be able to offer, you know, from what learn from Bashar about sort of the place of whether it's evil in the world or negativity, you know?

[Daryl Anka]

Well, it goes back to what we talked about earlier. We have to understand that sometimes a soul will choose to do something that will point out to us the things that we've been doing that do not serve us. And they'll do it more and more strongly to get our attention.

[Mayim Bialik]

Like a child.

[Daryl Anka]

Exactly. So it's kind of like, are we going to finally pay attention or are we just going to break down? So we're seeing more and more extreme versions of that because we have to wake up and we have to decide that we're not going to allow that to happen anymore, and we have to go to the causes of these things and not just deal with the symptoms. The second thing I'll say about that is one of the things I really appreciate about the information that's come through is sometimes how it paradoxically reverses our preconceptions about things like what you said we have a lack of trust. From his perspective, there's no such thing as a lack of trust. There is, however, a trust in lack. We're always trusting something to be true. But are you trusting what works for you or what doesn't work for you? There's no such thing as lacking trust. You know, and here's an. Here's an example sometimes of Bashar's humor. When someone might come up to him and say, you know, I'm not very confident, he'll say, well, you're confident about that, aren't you? You are confident that you're not confident. So it's not that you're not confident. You're using your confidence to be confident in something that doesn't work for you.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And people will say, well, my life has proven over and over and over again. Therefore it's true.

[Daryl Anka]

Yes, but then he explains how that works and why they get that reflection. The reflection reinforces a belief they already had, and he can point out what that belief is that is causing that reflection that then reinforces itself.

[Jonathan Cohen]

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[Jonathan Cohen]

of people listening have health conditions which are a real hard situation to break out of a belief system from.

[Daryl Anka]

That's a belief. That's a belief that it's hard to break out of. That. That's a belief. See what I mean, how automatic that is when we get into that? Well, everyone knows it's hard to break. No, everyone doesn't know that. Everyone doesn't need to know that. That's a belief. So he's very quick about pointing out, listen to what goes through your head. Listen to what comes out of your mouth. You're reinforcing something that doesn't work for you. When you say it's hard to do that, yes, it may be a challenge you laid out for yourself on your life, but that doesn't mean you can't face that challenge in a way that gives you a positive result and gives you a lesson you need to learn.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It's unpacking every idea that we have, every and holding a space of the unknown to say there is something here that I may not realize how it turns out yet, but there may be a different potential for it.

[Daryl Anka]

Exactly. Always Everything can serve double duty. Everything.

[Mayim Bialik]

Even death.

[Daryl Anka]

Well, death is the finish of our school year, so to speak, the finish of our lesson. We're going back when we're done to decide how to use the lessons we learned here and to move on to something else.

[Mayim Bialik]

You mentioned that you met your wife in a class. Um, what has your personal life been like? Because in. In a sense, you. You carry another set of wisdom with you, another personality.

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely made a change in who I am in terms of things like emotional balance, in terms of just, again, experiencing more synchronicity in just knowing how things actually work allows me not to be reactive to things. It allows me to say, let me maintain, at the very least, a neutral position so that I can decide how I'm going to define this experience. And it is by how I define it that will determine how I experience it. Because I know now everything can serve double duty. As Bashar often says, it doesn't really matter what happens. It matters what you do with what happens that makes the difference in your life. And so I've gotten to the point where I can hold a space for myself, where I'm not automatically reacting to unconscious, built in belief systems that are out of alignment with who I prefer to be. I am able to say this is happening in my life for a reason. Let me figure out what that reason is so I can use it not only to help myself, but maybe also to help the other people involved. Because maybe there's something about this situation that they need to understand as well as I need to understand. Because I understand maybe what I'm dealing with is not my issue, but their issue. And I need to maybe help them figure out how they can get around that.

[Mayim Bialik]

Does Bashar help you make any decisions in your personal life? For example, did you say to Bashar, should I have kids? Should I do this? Should I do that? No. Those are decisions you make on your own.

[Daryl Anka]

Absolutely. I mean, it wouldn't be a real relationship if he was trying to run me. And he has his life. I have my life. We work together.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It's a work relationship.

[Mayim Bialik]

Do you have any indication from Bashar how long this relationship will last? Meaning, is he with you for your earthly life?

[Daryl Anka]

I would think. I'm not positive about this. I would think that once extraterrestrials are physically here, there would be no reason to have to channel him. You can talk to the ETs yourself.

[Mayim Bialik]

I mean, I wouldn't assume that I can communicate with extraterrestrials when they get here.

[Daryl Anka]

Why not? Let's just break this down into two basic types of extraterrestrials. We've talked about the hybrids. Hybrid extraterrestrials are a specific type that have a lot to do with our genetics being mixed in there with them. And they may, most of them look enough like us that they can be among us and have been among us for a long time, helping create different things in the sciences, in philosophy, in sociology, in politics, whatever they're helping. When open contact occurs, my understanding is we will be told who they are and we will be able to interact with them in public.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It's me.

[Mayim Bialik]

No, it's not.

[Daryl Anka]

None of them would reveal themselves at this point.

[Mayim Bialik]

None of them would be tall Canadians.

[Daryl Anka]

None of them will reveal who they are at this moment. There have been instances where people have reported seeing, like there was something very odd about this person. I couldn't put my finger on it. They felt like they weren't from here, but then I just went about my business. They have the telepathic ability to recognize when you recognize them and to turn you away and make you think about something else.

[Mayim Bialik]

These are not the droids you are looking for.

[Daryl Anka]

Exactly. So that's one phase of open contact. The next phase is the pure extraterrestrials who will be introduced to us. Those we may not interact with a lot right away, but over the course of a few decades, they'll be fully integrated into our society and we into theirs. But first, the extraterrestrial hybrids that have already been here. We can interact with them.

[Mayim Bialik]

Would that mean the end of your relationship?

[Daryl Anka]

I don't need to channel if you can talk to an extraterrestrial hybrid.

[Mayim Bialik]

Because that might be sad. He's been with you for so long.

[Daryl Anka]

No, because I'm going to still teach the principles, and that energy is still there. The connection is still there.

[Mayim Bialik]

Why am I sad about it and you're not?

[Daryl Anka]

I don't know.

[Jonathan Cohen]

She's sad about a lot of things,

[Daryl Anka]

but that's very sweet of you.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Can we talk about the other aliens that are not the gray hybrids? What's their deal?

[Daryl Anka]

Well, there are beings that people have called out as being Pleiadian, Arcturan, whatever, reptilian, the mantis beings, insectoid beings. I think that as we get introduced to more and more extraterrestrials, we will be introduced to ones that at first are more like us, so we don't freak out. And then.

[Mayim Bialik]

I'm freaked out already.

[Daryl Anka]

And then over time, more of the ones that are not like Us at all, because there are many more extraterrestrials that have no relationship to what we look like.

[Mayim Bialik]

Okay, I'm asking another stupid and cynical question.

[Daryl Anka]

Okay.

[Mayim Bialik]

What happens if this doesn't happen? Meaning, will you get further information about why it didn't happen and.

[Daryl Anka]

Okay, absolutely. But it will happen. It's inevitable at this point.

[Mayim Bialik]

Like soon.

[Daryl Anka]

2027.

[Mayim Bialik]

Oh, geez. Okay.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Also pretty specific.

[Daryl Anka]

Well, 2026 is the year of disclosure, and that's why we're seeing more information in the congressional hearings come out.

[Mayim Bialik]

I just thought it was the year that I was finally going to get fit.

[Daryl Anka]

And then it will culminate in the idea of an actual official public presentation.

[Mayim Bialik]

What would you like us to do? To prepare, or what do you think? Either you or. What is the information? This is what to do to prepare,

[Daryl Anka]

because it raises your vibration and makes you more vibrationally capable of interacting with higher vibrational beings. So that's what you do is follow

[Jonathan Cohen]

the formula, given that human beings are not so great with welcoming the other, even the other amongst the same species.

[Daryl Anka]

Well, that's why it will take decades for this to be absorbed into our society.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Are we concerned that there are going to be armed, resilient resistance to welcoming aliens?

[Daryl Anka]

But the aliens have an advanced technology where that's not a worry to them.

[Jonathan Cohen]

They can't get shot, for example.

[Daryl Anka]

They can't get shot.

[Jonathan Cohen]

If they do, do they get annoyed with that? Is that like a mosquito biting them? They're like, what are these guys doing?

[Daryl Anka]

I mean, again, look at it this way. Like I said, the adults are stepping into the room. You can recognize when a child is throwing a tantrum, but you understand it's a child, and it doesn't really understand what's going on. So you're not getting annoyed so much as you're going. I'll let you calm down for a minute and then we'll have a conversation.

[Mayim Bialik]

Is this gonna be like a dun, dun, dun, dun. Here we are.

[Jonathan Cohen]

She wants to be a part of the inaugural committee.

[Daryl Anka]

It's in phases. It's in phases. I think at first, in disclosure.

[Mayim Bialik]

Yes.

[Daryl Anka]

We're going to have more and more absolute proof that their ships are real. In other words, on the news. I'm going to be a little facetious right now. Maybe this is literal and maybe it's not. But just like you have a nightly weather report. Yeah, here's the nightly UFO report. This is what was seen over Brazil today. Here's a photograph. This is what was seen over Washington, D.C. today. Here's a photograph. So the ships at first will be documented more clearly. So yeah, yeah, will be documented more clearly. Then it will lead to. Okay, we're going to have either something like a State of the Union address or an official press release or a press conference.

[Mayim Bialik]

Trump's still going to be president.

[Daryl Anka]

No, no.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I mean, you don't want to send the nukes out to the ships. Like, you know, you can't.

[Daryl Anka]

Like I said, ships over, missile silos off. We've done that. We've seen that several times. Malmstrom Air Force Base around the world, ships over nuclear silos.

[Mayim Bialik]

Why would I not feel threatened by what you just said?

[Daryl Anka]

Because they're showing us we won't have a war. A global thermonuclear war. We won't be able to launch against one another.

[Mayim Bialik]

I'm going to say a horrible thing. What if this is just all a plot to infiltrate and invade and maim and kill?

[Daryl Anka]

With their level of advanced technology, they could have done this a hundred times over. Why would they wait until we had nuclear weapons to do so? Why wouldn't they have taken us over when we were Neanderthals if they could do it? They've been around for millions of years.

[Mayim Bialik]

They want our donuts.

[Jonathan Cohen]

They were waiting for us to make good candy.

[Daryl Anka]

This is where human based fears come in without understanding what true intelligence is.

[Mayim Bialik]

I mean, all my fears are based on lack of understanding what true intelligence is.

[Daryl Anka]

Well, exactly, because from Bashar's perspective, true intelligence operates on whole systems. It would never do anything to eliminate any part of the system to which it belongs because it would be damaging itself.

[Jonathan Cohen]

That makes a lot of sense. And I like this sort of operational view. There's probably so much more to gain in that operational view. But if I shift to a couple of the practical questions. What's involved in spontaneous healing?

[Daryl Anka]

What's involved in spontaneous healing is first to understand that a healer never heals anyone directly. A healer puts out a vibrational frequency that represents the healed state. If the person requiring the healing decides that they're going to match that frequency, they will heal themselves.

[Jonathan Cohen]

This is, I think, one of the most simple explanations I've heard.

[Daryl Anka]

Let's just say in the Bible, Jesus never healed anyone. He said, you, faith has healed you. Your belief has healed, has healed you.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I want to repeat it, though. That's why the notion is that a

[Daryl Anka]

healer puts out a vibration that represents the healed state. The person requiring the healing has to agree to mirror that state within themselves, thereby healing themselves.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And we all know how to do that, we all can recognize this frequency and match it.

[Daryl Anka]

The only reason it wouldn't happen is if there is another lesson to learn by maintaining the disease. Not only the lesson may be for the person, but sometimes a soul will choose to have that experience for what other people around that person will learn.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And if they're struggling, can they get out of that contract by saying, I no longer want to? Just kidding.

[Mayim Bialik]

I get it.

[Daryl Anka]

If it was part of the life path choice, yes. If it wasn't, no.

[Jonathan Cohen]

How do you know if it's part of that choice? Can you like muscle test? How do you figure it out?

[Daryl Anka]

Well, you just go through it and learn whatever lessons you can extract from it. Because if you use up the lessons and there's no more reason for it, it will go. If it stays, there's still a purpose for it.

[Mayim Bialik]

It's like when we say, you know your defects, if they're serving you, you'll hold on to them.

[Daryl Anka]

Exactly.

[Mayim Bialik]

And when they no longer serve you, you will have them restored.

[Daryl Anka]

Exactly, exactly. But it's also about sometimes serving others. Because sometimes a person that comes in with a particular condition is because of what doctors will learn from that, that will help humanity.

[Mayim Bialik]

You're welcome. To every doctor I've ever been to, you're welcome. You didn't know someone could have influenza A and B at the same time,

[Daryl Anka]

or you've learned something that can help someone else. Exactly.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Do we all have angels, Guardian angels and non physical support system.

[Daryl Anka]

Everyone has a spirit team, sometimes hundreds of beings.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Hundreds, yeah.

[Daryl Anka]

Now you might have three or two or three main spirit working guides that are specifically like, okay, I have the expertise to help you in this particular situation. Or this guide switches off, I have the expertise to help you in that particular situation. Guardian angels are sometimes referred to as birth angels. They're the ones that keep you on the planet until you have actually agreed to leave. So that's why we have a lot of near death experiences or a lot of things that people go, I should have died, why didn't I die? Or people attempting suicide that don't succeed, they missed. Angel says, the birth angel says, not your time. So how much interference depends on the level of what you're doing to yourself. So let's say it's something where like you said, you know, somebody puts a gun to their head. It's not somehow the jams. That could literally be the guardian angel saying that. Guns, little stick a gun, they can affect physical material that strongly if there's a need to, but they will try. Probably Something more subtle earlier.

[Mayim Bialik]

First, most famous example, Abraham and Isaac. He's about to kill him and the angel says, stop.

[Jonathan Cohen]

What are your thoughts about people interacting with their primary guards or guiding angels on a regular basis? Should we be acknowledging them?

[Daryl Anka]

Do we say, yeah, say hi, Say, you know, help. And that doesn't mean that they're going to just give you everything you want. It means they're going to help you figure out how to do it yourself. But you can always talk to them.

[Mayim Bialik]

Is this information that you had before Bashar?

[Daryl Anka]

No.

[Mayim Bialik]

Why does Bashar know about guardian angels?

[Jonathan Cohen]

Bashar knows about everything because he knows about how the universe is structured.

[Daryl Anka]

That's number one. Number two, they operate on a frequency that is actually very close to spirit. And that's one of the reasons why sometimes in the presence of ETs, people panic is because when you're exposed to a vibration that we read as the vibration of spirit, our primitive mind goes, I'm about to die. And it goes into fight or flight, survival mode. And the fear comes up in us. You're not going to die. But that's how we react to being exposed to a frequency we read as the frequency of death.

[Mayim Bialik]

Well, and also, I mean, what I'm thinking of is when people are in the presence of a great healer, right? Or a mystic or what I'm assuming charismatic leaders. Whether it's Jesus or, you know, like when you think about being in the presence of someone who has achieved enlightenment, it's often frightening, right? And the. In Hebrew, we talk about it this, like, this awe, right? The, like the words are that like you're, you're like trembling, right? And it's that, that notion. And I wonder if that's sort of

[Daryl Anka]

like it's a reaction to that higher frequency because we're not used to that and we feel like we're about to be annihilated by it. And so you go into survival mode.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I see people talking, right? And so I'm, I'm reflecting what I've seen, which is that many people are holding on to the narrative, they're holding on to their ideas. They're. They can't or they're struggling to shift their reality. And so when they get in the presence and they feel something different, they're, they're terrified because they're not sure about taking that next leap. What that actually means, to leave that all behind. Can you talk about that? But what also strikes me is that how does addiction play in to keeping us stuck? Is it just another tool to help us Avoid the discomfort of taking that step.

[Daryl Anka]

In a sense, addiction from Bashar's point of view is trying to fill an emptiness that you feel. Trying to feel a connection where you don't feel one and you're either doing one of two things, you are either attempting to numb it so you don't feel it, or you're trying to fill it with something that will never fill it.

[Jonathan Cohen]

The God shaped hole.

[Daryl Anka]

But it's about the idea of feeling a disconnection, feeling an emptiness, not feeling connected to source.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Is that one of our greatest challenges of the digital era is the feeling of emptiness?

[Daryl Anka]

Absolutely. Feeling disconnected. Strangely enough, Paradoxically enough, when we have an Internet that connects all of us, we feel more disconnected than ever because we're not really interacting.

[Jonathan Cohen]

How important is it for people to have a creative practice as a spiritual connection?

[Daryl Anka]

I think it's very important myself. You have to balance the grounded, practical stuff with the creative stuff in life. I think to be a whole human being in some way, shape or form. And I think a lot of creative practices do have a knack for connecting you to spiritual awareness. So. Absolutely. Although, again, I'm not saying that grounded stuff can't do that too. Because staying grounded on the earth is also in a sense a spiritual practice.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I mean, something that's very grounded. Working with your hands in some way can also be highly creative because you're solving problems. So you're using both sides.

[Daryl Anka]

That is why my wife and I created an escape room in Calabasas.

[Mayim Bialik]

So Valerie and I, Valerie and I were just talking about this. Yeah, what, what, what is that venture like? How do you see that as an extension kind of of the work that you get to do?

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah, well, as you came out of the film industry and you know, we made three indie movies and you can't really make great living that way. And we were looking around like, well, what uses the same skill sets we have, that is more of a business, a year long business year round. And somebody suggested we were first going to talk about doing like haunted houses that come out every, you know, Halloween because they are very lucrative. But somebody suggested an escape room. We said, well, what's that? And so we started doing research and found out that it's exactly what we were looking for. Because I'm building sets, I'm building props, I'm telling stories.

[Mayim Bialik]

Telling a story.

[Daryl Anka]

It's just that the people are now the actors in the movie.

[Mayim Bialik]

I want to recommend also. It's, it's. I don't want to say it's an easy read but it's. It's a. It's a. It's a logical and clear read. Okay, thank you. And it's really, you know, it's organized with a lot of. Well, it's very intentionally kind of assembled so that you can understand practically what the things are that we're all working on collectively. I do recommend the formula.

[Daryl Anka]

Yeah, the formula is going to come out from St. Martin's Press next year, probably with a. It's going to actually be more of a workbook, so you can really go through exercises in it that help lock some of those concepts.

[Mayim Bialik]

Great. It's really unbelievable. Where else can we direct people to learn more about the work you do and about Bashar?

[Daryl Anka]

To learn about Bashar, you can go to bashar.org, b a s h a r.org org for the escape room, boggledescape rooms.com for anything else I'm doing, like books and so on and so forth, you can go to Darrel anka.com d a r r y l a n k a dot com if we are

[Mayim Bialik]

still doing this podcast next year, will you come back?

[Daryl Anka]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mayim Bialik]

Because I feel like there might be more for us to talk about.

[Daryl Anka]

Sure. Always. We've only scratched the surface.

[Jonathan Cohen]

We really have. As we transition as a human civilization into the next phase, can you leave us with a message that you hope people will take away?

[Daryl Anka]

What I can say about following all the steps of the formula is that I know it does work. Even before I knew anything about Bashar, and maybe because this was going to happen in my life, I have always been a person that refused to do anything that was not representative of my passion. And I've been doing that now for well over half a century. And it has always supported me, always. So it does work. You can make a living that way. Because you have to understand there's more than one form of abundance in the world. It's not just about the idea of money, although that's one valid representation of abundance. There are many forms of abundance, like synchronicity, like being given a gift, like having something to trade. Communication, imagination, time and space are all forms of abundance. And if you allow all forms of abundance to be equally valuable, valid, then they can work together to give you the 100% abundance you need to always move forward. So you just have to relax your definition of what abundance is and allow it to flow to you more automatically and more naturally, and you will be taken care of.

[Mayim Bialik]

I would say this is one of the most unusual conversations we've Had. It was very, very enjoyable, though, and really fascinating. And we appreciate the opportunity not just to, you know, have you able to communicate the things that Bashar brings you, but also for people to understand what it's like to be the person who's holding this kind of information. We really appreciate it.

[Daryl Anka]

Oh, my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

[Mayim Bialik]

Thank you so much.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And if Bashar has a co worker who wants to talk to me, I'm ready, I'm ready to channel.

[Daryl Anka]

Be careful what you wish for.

[Mayim Bialik]

Obviously, this reminded me a lot of our conversation with Lee Harris, you know, who also is channeling information but has a very different kind of entry point in that Lee Harris, you know, was literally like on the subway one night and, you know, this kind of came to him. It's really interesting that Daryl, you know, accessed this channeling opportunity through meditation and more through an intentional, like, can I receive information? He obviously was open to it. You know, as he says himself, you. There's no way to kind of like, verify the veracity of this. We don't know if it's absolutely true. What he knows is that he believes he's tapping into something that feels outside of his cognitive experience, feels like it's being downloaded. It feels like it's coming in an instant and there's some sort of process that he's in with this other part of his consciousness.

[Jonathan Cohen]

You know, what do you think about the change in brain state that was identified in the documentary and like. And connected to this idea of the change in brain state that we have when we're in play in that way or in a creative space?

[Mayim Bialik]

Yeah, I mean, what, what he's talking about is sort of, you know, what we've talked about a lot when we speak about meditation. You know, what, what frequency, right, are you vibrating at? Where if you were to, you know, do an eeg, an electroencephalogram, you know, recording what is your brain doing? And yeah, we know that there are different states that people can get into and that they do get into. And, you know, people like Richard Davidson, who have done brain imaging of people, monks in deep meditative states, we know that the brain is going to behave differently. I don't know enough about, you know, EEG recordings to be able to say that between 9 and 10 and 11 hertz, you know, is a, a shift that's statistically significant. I just, I don't have that information at hand. But what I will say is I think it's interesting that when undergoing an EEG study, there was a difference that, that apparently could be detected of different states. And, yeah, what that. What that indicates, again, is not proof of anything. What it shows is that he is in a different, you know, kind of vibrational frequency when he's receiving this information or when Bashar is listening to information versus when it's his brain activity that's being recorded.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It is fascinating what we can access in different states. You know, we think that just wherever we are is the nature of our reality and how much is available to us as we shift how we're operating, how we're thinking, what our belief systems are, and even the speed at which our brain is processing.

[Mayim Bialik]

Yeah. And also, you know, one of the things that he talks about, you know, in. In the formula, a gift from the future, which he says, you know, as he mentioned, it's this kind of openness that he's hoping people will have, which is the same kind of openness that he believes will be necessary for whatever our next incarnation is, whether it's having contact with extraterrestrials or whether it's just being more in touch with our own needs. Right. And our own destinies. What I was kind of pleased to find in this book is that there's. There's nothing, like, so outside of the realm of understanding that it's like everybody needs to paint their faces blue. Like, it's nothing like that. It's, you know, five principles that existence is all that there is. Everything's an expression or reflection of existence. Everything exists here and now. Everything's determined by resonance or a state of being, and everything constantly changes. Except these laws. You know, these are the. The five principles, or what he calls the laws of existence. So, you know, these are things that are helpful, wise, very interesting. And there's also different actions you can undertake and effects that those have.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It's very interesting, an interesting conversation, and something we didn't even expect as we started this podcast.

[Mayim Bialik]

Not at all. And who knows? I mean, now I feel like I got to really suit up and show up for 2026.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I nominate you to be on the Alien Greeting Committee, putting forward a panel of humanity.

[Mayim Bialik]

Now that you're here, I want you to meet this one.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I was also thinking maybe you should host those news updates, for Pete's sake. Over the Sedona Mountains today, we saw. Brought to you by Mayim Bialik.

[Mayim Bialik]

Let's all stay tuned for that. But until then, from our breakdown to the one we hope you never have. We'll see you next time.

[Daryl Anka]

It's Maya Bialix, breakdown. She's gonna break it down for you. She's got a neuroscience PhD.

[Mayim Bialik]

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