Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown: Part Two – How Changing Our Core Narratives Changes Our Life! (with Dr. Sue Morter)
Podcast: Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown
Host: Mayim Bialik (with Jonathan Cohen)
Guest: Dr. Sue Morter
Air Date: December 3, 2025
Episode Theme: Exploring spiritual awakening, the mind-body connection, the role of core narratives, and the energetic root of healing with Dr. Sue Morter.
Overview
In the second part of their deep-dive conversation, Mayim Bialik and Jonathan Cohen welcome Dr. Sue Morter—author, international speaker, and master of bioenergetic medicine. They focus on her personal spiritual awakening, the physical and energetic processes underpinning healing, how remote healing happens, and especially the transformative role of love. There’s also a lively discussion about how our narratives shape our experiences, bridging Dr. Morter’s energetic/spiritual framework with scientific and therapeutic perspectives.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Dr. Sue Morter’s Spiritual Awakening
[03:44] Dr. Sue Morter recounts her spiritual awakening:
- Experienced during a group chanting meditation involving deep, sustained Sanskrit chants.
- She describes an out-of-body, transcendental experience: seeing the Earth from above, feeling herself as a “ray of light,” and being enveloped in “brilliant light, ten times brighter than the brightest day in the desert.”
- This state brought a sense of deep peace, completeness, and understanding of the “truth of who we are.”
- Notably, her physical ailments—intense migraines and later scoliosis—disappeared post-experience.
“There was nothing broken. There was nothing missing. There was nothing wrong. There was nothing to achieve, nothing to become. It wasn’t about that at all.”
—Dr. Sue Morter [08:43]
Integration After Awakening
- Returning was challenging; the intensity of the experience made normal functioning difficult for weeks.
- Her life became “a living laboratory” for understanding how to integrate new, holistic energy states into daily life.
The Toric (Torus) Field and Energetic Distortion
[10:30] Dr. Morter introduces the “toric field” model:
- Visualizes human energy as a doughnut-shaped, dynamic flow—energy moves through and around the body.
- Distortions in the field arise from unresolved experiences (abandonment, abuse, negative beliefs), leading to “blockages,” which then reflect in one’s health, personality, and perception.
“As we have been abandoned or been abused or drawn conclusions about love or about life... we shut down in certain ways. And now that rising energy has to circumvent around what’s going on in us, and that wobble creates a distortion in the field.”
—Dr. Sue Morter [15:10]
- Healing involves “building circuitry” to realign and harmonize the energetic flow, enabling access to higher potential.
Energy, Narratives, and Physical Health
[22:06] Migraine Case Study:
- Dr. Morter shares insights on migraines as energetic blockages related to “not being rooted” in oneself.
- Energy that’s blocked at the root “backs up into the head,” creating pain.
“When someone has a headache... that energy that’s coming out of the crown can’t get into the rootedness, so it backs up into the head. So... I wasn’t awake in my rootedness.”
—Dr. Sue Morter [22:42]
Changing Core Narratives:
- Disempowering core stories limit energy flow; changing them at a fundamental level opens paths to healing—both physical and emotional.
Remote Healing and Unified Field
[24:36] How does remote healing work?
- Dr. Morter explains it in energetic terms: all beings share a “unified field” at the highest frequency.
- By focusing attention and conscious intention on another, practitioners can “stream source energy” to correct vibrational dissonance.
“If I stream this source energy and dial into that frequency and bring you into my consciousness at the same time... It allows your field to be served by something more unconditional than it perhaps has been exposed to...”
—Dr. Sue Morter [27:58]
The Transformative Power of Love
[29:40] Love as the Mechanism of Healing:
- Love is described as the highest vibration and our “true nature”—something to embody, not seek externally.
- Embodied love differs fundamentally from codependent or “bargaining” love.
- Practical advice: Practice feeling the love you wish existed in the world, daily—even for five minutes.
“Embodied love is different than negotiable love or romantic love, bargaining love... What I encourage people to do is imagine the love that you would love the world to know... and to practice feeling that in your body every day, as many times a day as you can remember to do it.”
—Dr. Sue Morter [31:20]
Integrating Science & Energy
[34:35] Mayim and Jonathan’s Reflections:
- Mayim links Dr. Morter’s ideas to measurable brain states (alpha, beta, theta waves) and scientific studies about meditation.
- They draw parallels between Dr. Morter’s energetic model and the work of scientists like Richard Davidson and Bruce Lipton, highlighting both overlaps and necessary distinctions in definitions (especially “consciousness” in spiritual vs. scientific contexts).
“This notion that we all come from a blank slate... The you that originated when sperm meets egg... That you is pure. It is love.”
—Mayim Bialik [36:59]
Dealing with Emotional Blockages and “Garbage”:
- Michael Singer’s analogy of carrying “garbage” or “baggage” is discussed as energetically and neurologically limiting, echoing Dr. Morter’s blockage theory.
- Mayim shares personal anecdotes about experiences with Reiki and emotional release.
Practical Applications & Daily Practice
On Practicing Love & Grounding:
- Focusing on love as an embodied feeling changes how the mind and body operate at a cellular level.
- Breath and focused attention are entry points to shifting one’s state—especially valuable when distressed, agitated, or reactive.
“When you start practicing this greater love, it becomes like first nature, because it is your first nature. And it becomes readily accessible in an instant—all you have to do is put your attention, boom, right there you are.”
—Dr. Sue Morter [32:09]
Resources and Next Steps
[33:13] Dr. Sue Morter:
- Website: drsuemorter.com
- Upcoming book: Anatomy of Awakening (Spring 2026)
- Offers courses on energy medicine, body-awake yoga, meditations, and a school of higher consciousness.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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“I knew that this was the truth of who I was, who we are. I had always been there and... this was home.”
— Dr. Sue Morter [08:32] -
“You can feel where the blockage is. It feels like the pulse of energy shifts. It becomes either colder or warmer… almost pulled into the body or pushed away. But it is a substantial change.”
— Jonathan Cohen [44:00] -
“We heal when we start to do this. And anchoring yourself in the body, there are ways to learn to do that that are so easy to do, but we’ve just never put the pieces together in this way.”
— Dr. Sue Morter [32:40] -
“What happens is you change on a cellular level. Your mind starts to be magnetized back onto the self instead of operating out there on its own. And now it's here to magnify the true self, the true loving self.”
— Dr. Sue Morter [32:46]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [03:44] – Dr. Morter’s spiritual awakening and migraine healing
- [10:30] – Introduction of the toric field and energetic distortion
- [14:34] – Sacred sites & symbols for higher consciousness
- [22:06] – Energetics of migraines and physical symptoms
- [24:36] – How remote healing works
- [29:40] – Love as a healing vibration
- [34:35] – Mayim and Jonathan’s scientific reflections on meditation and energy
- [56:23] – Embodying love and difficulties with mindfulness practice
- [60:31] – Dr. Richard Davidson on stories, narratives, and perception
Mayim & Jonathan’s Takeaways
- Scientific and spiritual frameworks intersect in interesting ways around meditation, brainwaves, and healing.
- There is growing recognition, even among skeptics and scientists, of the role of core stories/narratives and embodied states in health and personal growth.
- Practical, accessible daily practices (breath, self-reflection, intentionally accessing loving states) can have profound effects.
Further Resources & Reading
- Dr. Sue Morter’s The Energy Codes
- Upcoming: The Anatomy of Awakening (Spring 2026)
- Richard Davidson’s research on meditation and the brain
- Works of Bruce Lipton, Martha Beck, Susan David
Closing Thought:
“Our beliefs about ourselves and our expectations… not only influence our perception of the world, they define the world in which we subjectively inhabit.”
— Richard Davidson [60:31]
If you resonated with this episode, Mayim and Jonathan invite you to join their Substack community for live Q&As, deeper dives into energy, meditation, and practical exercises for self-discovery and healing.
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