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Episode: The Science of Messages From Your Soul (Part Two): NASA Scientist on Telepathy, Mind Reading & What Astronauts Teach About High-Performance Intuition (w/ Dr. Iya Whiteley)

Date: February 18, 2026
Host: Mayim Bialik | Guest: Dr. Iya Whiteley | Co-host: Jonathan Cohen

Episode Overview

In this rich and wide-ranging second part of their conversation, Mayim Bialik, Jonathan Cohen, and Dr. Iya Whiteley (NASA scientist and cognitive engineer) explore the science and lived experience of intuition, synchronicity, and the transmission of emotion and thought—especially in high-performance or extreme environments like those of astronauts and pilots. They also take a thoughtful, open-minded dive into family constellation therapy, the nature of coincidence, intergenerational healing, and the mystery of pre-birth communication. The group’s banter and blend of skepticism, curiosity, and humility allow for a surprisingly practical, heartfelt, and at times metaphysical conversation touching the boundaries between science, subjective experience, and the unknown.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Coincidence, Synchronicity, and the "Field"

Timestamps: [03:06]–[10:36]

• The group opens with Mayim sharing a real-time example of "coincidence": multiple people simultaneously thinking about Jonathan’s son just before he calls.
• Expanded Definitions:
  • Jonathan: “For me, I don't know that that changes my worldview. I think, like, that's a coincidence. But what is coincidence to you, and what would an expanded definition of coincidence be if we were more dropped in?” [04:37]
  • Dr. Whiteley: “To me, synchronicity is like a coincidence. It's almost a discounting of, of taking the power out of it. But synchronicity...things come synchronized with our vibration, our expectation, mood, tone, perception...It's the universe playing to see if we are watching.” [04:53]
• The idea emerges that openness to possibility can make us more sensitive to meaningful coincidence, akin to the martial arts tenet of responding to circumstances flexibly.

2. Intuition, Experience, and the Limitations of Science

Timestamps: [07:45]–[10:36]

• Dr. Whiteley discusses intuition and internal signals, drawing on applied research, training, and lived experience:
  • “Once we start explaining, we're losing the ability because our mind starts to doubt it's possible. I allow for observation and making a connection, learning from it.” [07:45]
• The limitations of current science to explain such phenomena are acknowledged, with a nod to historical paradigm shifts (e.g., germ theory).

3. Family Constellation Therapy: Healing Across Generations

Timestamps: [11:31]–[33:37]

• The group explores Family Constellation Therapy in depth, with skepticism and open-minded inquiry.
• Jonathan’s skepticism: “I'm just going to say right now...I don't buy it. I don't understand it...Tell us about family constellation therapy.” [11:31]
• Dr. Whiteley’s experience: Describes being initially skeptical but compelled by firsthand, visceral experiences:
  • “When I go in, I wanted to experience it in order for me to, in my mind...tap into it.” [21:55]
• Explains Bert Hellinger's approach: physical placement of people to represent family roles, which appears to release emotional energy and reveal intergenerational connections.
• Key insights:
  • Formation of the request—Identifying a visceral feeling tied to a recurring family or personal pattern.
  • The role of love and acceptance—“The idea in constellation is letting the love flow. And if it flows correctly, there is a release...acceptance...allowing that moment of experience.” [37:30]

Memorable Quotes:

• On the healing field:
  • “When you are in a state of love, perception and acceptance, certain things start to unfold and release happens...This field that is invoked is acceptance, almost like the presence of God.” – Dr. Iya Whiteley [32:33]
  • Jonathan: “You're describing God...a power greater than yourself that is in a constant state of acceptance and love." [33:37]

4. Case Example of Family Constellation

Timestamps: [40:57]–[42:52]

• Co-host shares a simple case:
  • A woman struggling with procrastination finds, through constellation, that her pattern is linked to her father's unresolved anger—only acknowledged and released through acceptance, not blame.

5. Openness, Perception, and Selective Attention

Timestamps: [44:09]–[48:52]

• The group discusses how openness to intuition and patterns allows more noticing of synchronicities; skepticism and “veils” can reduce it.
• “When someone is open to that, they're open to more patterns, seeing coincidences. Then they form a yoga studio, then it's a cult—different story.” – Jonathan [44:09]

6. Prebirth Communication and the Soul’s Choice

Timestamps: [45:07]–[51:07]

• Topic: Communicating with children's spirits before birth, or even conception.
  • “There are reports of people communicating with their babies before the baby is born...dreams, thoughts, a sense of knowing.” – Host [45:14]
  • Jonathan shares his then-wife’s experience of sensing their unborn child’s presence.
• Dr. Whiteley: Created a website to collect stories about prebirth visions and communications, inspired by collections of “last words” before death:
  • “I'm interested in people's experiences because as we know in science, until we have data points, there is nothing we can do. So it's all anecdotes until we have enough data points that we can explore.” [50:19]

7. Anomalous Experiences in Aviation and Space

Timestamps: [51:07]–[59:41]; [59:41]–[63:48]

• Dr. Whiteley describes her work with pilots and astronauts, collecting accounts of intuition, unexplained or “anomalous” experiences (UAPs, “ghosts in the cockpit”), and how stress or fear can suppress reporting.
• On pilot experiences:
  • “The more we can describe them...other people start to follow and say, actually yes, I did feel that, but I didn't feel it’s manly [to share].” [57:57]
• On astronaut “eye flashes”:
  • Initially interpreted as hallucinations, later discovered to be cosmic radiation interacting with the retina. Dr. Whiteley highlights the need to collect all experiences, even those not yet scientifically understood. [59:41]

8. The Importance of Staying Open—Metaphor of the “Gorilla Suit Experiment”

Timestamps: [70:01]–[72:48]

• Jonathan recounts the famous selective attention experiment, likening it to how people often miss the metaphorical “gorilla in the room” in both life and the exploration of consciousness.
  • “What else are you missing that is literally right in front of you?” [72:29]
  • Group discusses how noticing opens awareness to new perspectives and possibility.

9. Love, Acceptance, and Universal Connection

Timestamps: [72:48]–[74:06]

• Jonathan reflects on Dr. Whiteley’s articulation that “love and acceptance” is the language of connection—found in religious tradition and in the felt sense of animals, nature, or meaningful human exchanges.
  • “That feeling of love, when you look into the eyes of someone who unconditionally loves you...that connection...I really loved how she said that.” [72:48]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Dr. Iya Whiteley on Synchronicities:
  “Synchronicity is like a coincidence...but to me, synchronicity is that things come synchronized with our vibration, with our expectation, with our mood, with our perception.” [04:53]

• On the Unexplainable:
  “Once we start explaining, we're losing the ability because our mind starts to doubt that it's not possible.” – Dr. Whiteley [07:45]

• Jonathan, jokingly:
  “I ask him [Jonathan] that all the time, it's not weird at all.” [26:06, on taking the father role in constellation therapy]

• Mayim on acceptance in parenting:
  “If I am like, somehow I had a larger contract to be the guardian steward of this soul...how does that change my parenting?” [66:15]

• Dr. Whiteley on Peak Experiences (re pilots/astronauts):
  “What we're touching is love. Again, you know, we're touching those qualities...let that be part of the data.” [57:57]

• Co-host, on noticing:
  “What else am I missing that is literally right in front of me? ... What might happen...that we are not consciously aware of at any given moment?” [72:29]

• Jonathan’s closing reflection:
  “That feeling of love...should still speak to you and touch you somewhere. Because that...opens something up. And I really loved how she said that.” [72:48]

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic/Segment | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |--------------------------------------------------|------------------------| | Coincidence, Synchronicity & the “Field” | 03:06–10:36 | | Family Constellation Therapy Explained | 11:31–33:37 | | Acceptance, Love, and Healing | 32:33–33:37; 37:30–39:49| | Simple Procrastination Case in Constellation | 40:57–42:52 | | Prebirth Communication and Souls | 45:07–51:07 | | Pilot & Astronaut Anomalous Experiences | 51:07–63:48 | | Selective Attention: The "Gorilla Suit" | 70:01–72:29 | | Reflections on Noticing and Awareness | 72:29–74:06 |

Tone and Style

The conversation remains light, inquisitive, and candid even while venturing into unconventional territory. Mayim and Jonathan balance earnest scientific inquiry with banter and thoughtful skepticism, while Dr. Whiteley’s gentle humility and willingness to sit with the “not knowing” ground the dialogue.

Practical Takeaways

• Openness is key: Genuine openness to experience (without premature judgment) allows for insight, healing, and new scientific discovery.
• Personal stories and data: Collecting and honoring lived experiences—even when unexplainable—can lay groundwork for future scientific understanding.
• Love and acceptance: Whether in therapy, parenting, or extreme environments, states of unconditional acceptance can be a profound agent of change.
• Selective attention: What we focus on shapes what we notice—expanding our mental “aperture” can reveal much more to us about ourselves and our world.

Further Resources Mentioned

• Family Constellation Therapy (Bert Hellinger)
• Books/References:
  • “Synchronicities and Coincidences” (title and author not specified)
  • Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) & Eastern philosophies on acceptance
• Websites:
  • Dr. Whiteley’s resource: childbirthvisions.com (for stories on prebirth intuition)
  • Substack for further discussion: bialikbreakdown.substack.com

Closing

For listeners curious about family constellation, intuition, and science at the edge of the explainable, this episode embodies that rare mix of heartfelt narrative, open inquiry, and intellect.
“Everything is important when we're exploring.” – Dr. Iya Whiteley [63:48]