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Paul Verhoeven, author of Loose Units is back with a second book about his father John’s time in NSW police and it’s another fantastic, action-packed and funny read. There’s a deeper, darker side this time too, as the Verhoeven’s confront the brutal bullying Paul suffered during his childhood and the decisions his parents made around dealing with it.

This is an intriguing conversation about father son dynamics.

Thanks to Paul Verhoeven & John Verhoeven, and Professor Stephen Cordner.

If you or someone you know is being bullied, contact The Bully Project.

Listen to my other interview with Paul and John on Australian True Crime here.

Listen to Paul and John's podcast Loose Units here or on your favourite podcast app.

If you'd like to purchase Electric Blue by Paul Verhoeven you can find it here.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.