159. Hasan Minhaj Returns: Off with His Head, On with His Jokes - Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out

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Hasan Minhaj (0:00)

I'm down to jump off the high dive.

Mike Birbiglia (0:02)

Yeah.

Hasan Minhaj (0:03)

Like when. If we're on, like, a trip with da boys and, like, we, like, climb up, like, we go to a lake and we climb up on the rock.

Mike Birbiglia (0:09)

Yeah.

Hasan Minhaj (0:09)

And you're like, let's jump off of it. I'll jump off.

Mike Birbiglia (0:12)

Me too.

Hasan Minhaj (0:13)

I'll jump off.

Mike Birbiglia (0:14)

Same.

Hasan Minhaj (0:15)

So, like, that. That's probably like my. But in a weird way, it was good for comedy.

Mike Birbiglia (0:20)

How come I'm never on the trip with you with the boys?

Hasan Minhaj (0:24)

Because we didn't go to high school together. I know, but these are, like, my middle school.

Mike Birbiglia (0:27)

Put me on the group chain, drop me in. You know what I mean? Get. No, I think, like, you have zero.

Hasan Minhaj (0:33)

Interest in hanging out with Hit Squad. Those are my. You have no interest in hanging out. You have zero interest in hanging out with Hit Squad.

Mike Birbiglia (0:40)

I would be. I think I would slide right in with Hit Squad. What do you think about me? Doesn't qualify me for Hit Squad.

Hasan Minhaj (0:47)

Do you play basketball?

Mike Birbiglia (0:48)

Yeah, I'll play basketball.

Hasan Minhaj (0:49)

All right. Foreign.

Mike Birbiglia (0:58)

That is the voice of the great Hasan Minaj. Man, I love it when Hasan comes on. It's his third time on the podcast. He's a fan favorite. He's actually. He's one of the people. He's one of our first guests on the show. Whenever people ask, where is a good place to start with the podcast? Because, you know, we're well over 150 episodes now. I always say the first Hasan Minaj episode, and after that, the second. And after that, this one today. His latest Netflix special is fantastic. It's called Off With His Head. I love talking to him on this show. By the way, thanks to everyone who's been coming out to my shows. I just added four small shows in March in Largo in la, which sold out immediately. I sent the email to the mailing list. I always say on the show, sign up for the mailing list to be the first to know. We may add more, I don't know. But if we do, again, you will be the first to know. I will be donating a portion of the proceeds from those shows to people affected by the fires. I also added a sixth show in New York City at the Beacon Theater, March 18. Tickets are going fast. Grab those while you can. I was just in Toronto this week. I'm in Baltimore, which is sold out. Palm beach, sold out. Northampton and Burlington, Vermont. Sold out again. Check on Burbigs.com for the details. I'm so excited to share the new show, the Good Life with You all love talking to Hasan. Today we talk a little politics. Rare for me. We dive deep into childhood memories. Who was the fastest kid at your school? Who were your first childhood crushes? Why are those memories so important, so funny? Names have been bleeped to protect the innocent. We talk a lot about how to develop a standup bit from scratch, how to use crowd work strategically to find what's funny about a story. And it's just a nerdy episode. Enjoy my conversation with the great Hassan Minhaj. Working it. First of all, love this special so much. I, you know, you don't want to be hyperbolic to a point where, like, I like, you feel like. I feel like I'm overdoing it. I feel like it's Carlin esque. It's George Carlin esque, you know, and you have to take this compliment, Mike.

Podcast Summary: Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out
Episode 159: Hasan Minhaj Returns: Off with His Head, On with His Jokes
Release Date: February 3, 2025

Introduction

In episode 159 of Working It Out, comedian Mike Birbiglia welcomes back the talented Hasan Minhaj for his third appearance on the podcast. The episode, titled "Hasan Minhaj Returns: Off with His Head, On with His Jokes," delves into Minhaj's latest Netflix special, "Off With His Head," and explores a variety of topics ranging from the creative process in comedy to personal childhood memories and political satire.

Discussion Topics

1. Hasan Minhaj's Latest Special: "Off With His Head"

Praise and Comparisons: Mike begins by lauding Minhaj's new special, comparing it to legendary comedian George Carlin. Minhaj responds with humility, acknowledging the high praise.
- Mike Birbiglia: “This is the biggest compliment.” [00:33]
- Hasan Minhaj: “This is insane.” [03:29]
Political Humor and Timing: Minhaj discusses the timing of his special, which was filmed just before a significant political event—the day Donald Trump was shot. This momentous event was selectively excluded from the special to maintain its comedic integrity.
- Hasan Minhaj: “We filmed it the day Donald Trump got shot. Oh, Jesus Christ.” [04:14]
Themes in the Special: Minhaj emphasizes that his comedy focuses on what genuinely matters to people, such as financial concerns and personal experiences, rather than being bogged down by demographic generalizations.
- Mike Birbiglia: “…only pay attention to what matters.” [05:49]
- Hasan Minhaj: “Here are the issues that actually matter.” [05:20]

2. Developing Standup Bits and Crowd Work

Storytelling in Comedy: Both Birbiglia and Minhaj share insights into constructing effective standup routines. Birbiglia discusses his challenges with opening material, using his “bird shitting in the eye” story as an example.
- Mike Birbiglia: “So what a bit. They do with a tag where you just continue to kind of freestyle...” [17:08]
Crowd Work Techniques: Minhaj suggests leveraging crowd work to enhance storytelling by engaging with the audience, such as asking about their fastest kids in school or their first childhood crushes.
- Hasan Minhaj: “Do you think I should be looking for more punchlines...” [22:01]
Escalation and Punchlines: The conversation highlights the importance of escalating a joke or finding a twist to maintain audience engagement.
- Hasan Minhaj: “This is the joke at peak.” [22:17]
- Mike Birbiglia: “That's a great tip.” [23:06]

3. Childhood Memories and Personal Stories

Fastest Kid Anecdote: Birbiglia recounts his experience as the second-fastest kid at his elementary school, blending humor with self-deprecation.
- Mike Birbiglia: “I must have been 13 yards into the 50 yard dash.” [14:00]
- Hasan Minhaj: “It was the most important thing.” [15:09]
First Crush Narrative: Minhaj explores the innocence and purity of first crushes, discussing how these memories can be both heartfelt and humorous.
- Hasan Minhaj: “There's nothing I literally want to hold your hand.” [25:03]
- Mike Birbiglia: “I'm in a fit.” [25:36]

4. Political Commentary and Society

Power Structures: Minhaj critiques entrenched power systems like the DC establishment, Wall Street, and major political parties, suggesting that only unforeseen "Black Swan" events can disrupt the status quo.
- Hasan Minhaj: “The incumbent entrenched power system...pretty set in their ways.” [07:00]
Impact on Democracy: The duo discusses the challenges current political figures pose to democratic processes, emphasizing the slow pace of societal change.
- Hasan Minhaj: “The world will not change as fast as Uber Eats delivers.” [09:35]
Comedic Responsibility: They debate the role of comedians in reflecting and challenging societal norms without alienating audiences.
- Mike Birbiglia: “I'm team a lot.” [43:48]
- Hasan Minhaj: “Being passionate is important.” [43:57]

5. Personal Reflections and Relationships

Hasan's Faith Journey: Minhaj shares his recent experience meeting the Pope and receiving rosary beads, connecting it to his family's Catholic background and his parents' values.
- Mike Birbiglia: “He gave us rosary beads...” [37:06]
- Hasan Minhaj: “It made me feel more in touch with my own personal history.” [37:35]
Mike's Almost Conversion to Islam: Birbiglia humorously recounts his near-conversion experience in high school, highlighting his curiosity and open-mindedness towards different religions.
- Mike Birbiglia: “I almost converted to Islam when I was in high school.” [36:07]

Notable Quotes

Mike Birbiglia: "Comedy is tragedy plus time." [20:00]
Hasan Minhaj: “Here are the issues that actually matter.” [05:20]
Mike Birbiglia: “I'm team a lot.” [43:48]
Hasan Minhaj: “The world will not change as fast as Uber Eats delivers.” [09:35]
Mike Birbiglia: “It's a very, very, very moving performance.” [46:42]

Insights and Conclusions

Episode 159 showcases the dynamic chemistry between Mike Birbiglia and Hasan Minhaj as they navigate through personal anecdotes, the intricacies of developing comedic material, and thoughtful political discourse. Minhaj’s ability to intertwine humor with genuine societal observations provides listeners with both laughs and food for thought. Birbiglia’s reflective storytelling complements Minhaj’s incisive commentary, offering a comprehensive look into the creative processes behind successful standup comedy.

The episode underscores the importance of authenticity in comedy, the power of personal experiences in shaping comedic narratives, and the role comedians play in addressing and reflecting societal issues. Through their engaging dialogue, Birbiglia and Minhaj not only entertain but also inspire aspiring comedians to delve deeper into their creative journeys.

Conclusion

Hasan Minhaj's return to Working It Out is a testament to his enduring appeal and his adeptness at blending humor with meaningful content. From discussing his latest special to exploring childhood memories and the state of politics, this episode offers a rich and engaging listen for both fans and newcomers alike. Whether you're interested in the mechanics of comedy or the personal stories that fuel it, episode 159 delivers insightful perspectives with plenty of laughs.

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For more information on Hasan Minhaj's special, visit Netflix.