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Foreign. Hey, what's going on guys? Welcome back to the Mike Forest podcast. I am feeling good enough to do a podcast. If you haven't been seeing my content, it's because I've been sick with the flu. That's what happens when you have lots of kids that make each other sick and then they bring that sickness home. Look, I want to say big shout out to Carnival, our premier sponsor. They're doing single serving pouches now packed in these boxes. Pork, beef, chicken. And it's not just what's prepped in your cupboard, it's also what's for dinner. I do it every morning with breakfast because it's easy to constitute this meat in a very short period of time and then cook it up with some eggs. But also if you're meal prepping, you need to look at weight, like actual physical, tangible weight. If you got cans of food, that's a lot of weight. If you had to pack that out in a 72 hour bug out bag, for example, it would be a huge tax on your body. That's why I like the guys from Carnival. They make these freeze dried beef, chicken and pork packs. Constitutes quick and it cooks quick. Also it's all USA grade meat. You're not getting this stuff from Brazil. Check out the description down below for MG10 to save. So a few things. I've been really ill and people have asked me about the opinion of this Alex Preddy shooting. And I've checked the headlines this morning on this. Not one headline even from Ms. Now. Let me check it because it, I checked it this morning early on. Yep, not one headline is mentioning Alex pretty. That's how fast this goes by the headline right now it says on Ms. Now is there a fracture in Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer's relationship? Oh, that seems like it shouldn't be a left wing talking point, but it is and it says Democratic Senator raises eyebrows with two Senates letter to CIA Director. So I want to talk on this episode about a few things. The Alex Predi shooting. I discuss it in depth on Andy Stumps podcast which, excuse me, is coming out next week. Oh man, I need some of this. It's coming out next week but I don't have conclusive thoughts on this. I, I have a lot of opinions on a lot of different things and I think you could agree to disagree. But if you take critical thinking instead of emotion and the argument or discussion, I think we could come to some conclusions. We'll talk about that. Also, the Epstein files Bombshell releases it's, it's pretty diabolical because I think everybody realizes more and more that the elites are being protected. And also we'll talk about some things going on in the fight to protect children. There's just a lawsuit that was won for $2 million for a 16 year old little girl who had her breast removed and now she just got a payout because she sued. And now gender affirming care, gender affirming care, which is ridiculous even as you say it out loud, is something that might stop because it's hurting the pocketbooks. It's going to hurt the pocketbooks. I think anybody who's got gender affirming care is likely going to sue and going to win. And since that's going to hurt the pocketbooks of these doctors and psychologists, it might stop, which is a good thing for a country. Let's get into this. Alex, pretty thing first. So this situation in Minnesota has been ramped up in escalation. And the thumbnail and the title of this has to do with civil war. And I'll talk about why I think that's feasible, just not in the way that we think of civil war in the 1860s historically. So if you remember back to when this kicked off, it kicked off because Nick Shirley on YouTube, a YouTuber, a journalist doing more combined better journalism than all national media, culminated together by himself on YouTube reporting the truth. He's doing better than any national media organization and reporting the truth. And nobody wants to hear it if you're on the radical left. But he dropped some bombs and as he delivered these messages using this gentleman, he went around to these daycares, looking into these daycares where there were no kids present. He exposed something that nobody wanted to be exposed, especially in the Minnesota government. What he exposed is fraud, waste and abuse in the billions of dollars via mostly legal immigrants from Somalia in the Somali community with healthcare and daycares. Now the estimate is above $8 billion of potential fraud. So he reports that. And the next thing that happens is ICE is confronting citizens, American citizens on the streets of Minnesota and Renee Goode and Alex Pretty and two different distinct situations similar are killed by ICE and Border Patrol. Now I already talked about this on a reacts about Renee Good. I will mention that Alex Preddy's circumstance is very different and that I think personally it was a bad shoot. Now do I think the law enforcement officer that was involved could potentially get off? I do because it's very subjective as far as the perspective or perception of the individual. In this case a law enforcement Officer using deadly force or objective reasonableness lined out by Graham v. Connor in 1989 as the legal standard through his eyes, his ears, his senses, his perception. So a lot of the criticism is based on perspectives that aren't his and angles and things that we see from the cameras that aren't his that have nothing to do with his individual perception. Why I think it was a bad shoot is a few reasons. I explained this in depth on Andy Stumps podcast because me and Andy have taught, we have taught this specific course together called Decision Point. It's a course I used to run with my company, Phil Craft Survival, whereby the reality for people who train in self defense, nobody really trains the critical thinking necessary to make that decision, to flip that switch to use deadly force. Nobody, nobody trains the, the protocol, the decisive point in which you decide to do what you do or post what happens after the shooting. What are the legal ramifications? What are the statements that I make or don't make to law enforcement? Nobody trains that. Sure we can get some situational awareness on it, but we don't specifically train it because the technical component of that is easy to train. It's actually fun to train. I draw my pistol from concealed carry. I shoot the target. I fall in love with that script I develop. But that's the easy part guys. That's the part that requires no critical thinking at all. It requires repetition, a rehearsal, optimization of your movement and your hand and eye coordination. What's more difficult is navigating what is the decisive point in which you decide to use deadly force in these type of scenarios. And if we take that thinking or understanding and apply it to what we saw, there's many errors that took place outside of what we know this specific person was doing. Okay, so it has been proven that one, 11 days prior, he did spit on a law enforcement vehicle, he did kick that law enforcement vehicle and he committed a felony. He obstructed the physical duties of these law enforcement officers and got put to the ground for it. He kicked a tail light out. It's all on camera from different angles. That was not AI, that was real. And so the idea that he was just an innocent protester, an innocent ICU nurse is false. He was a professional agitator. In fact, the group that he was working with that particular day in which he was killed is, is allegedly a 50 person group that that's what they did. They obstructed justice. They interdicted or intervened in police investigations, specifically ICE and border patrol investigations and to illegal immigrants. And this has caused a crap storm across the country, but especially here, because one third all of ICE agents or immigration federal agents were deployed to Minnesota to take care of this. You know, why? Well, specifically why is politicians like Tim Walls and Mayor Jacob Frey put out to their local police departments and local sheriff's departments. They would not allow them to cooperate with ice. So ICE is number one priority. Immigration number one priority is going after illegal immigrants who have criminal records, especially those who are already in custody. But up until actually today and yesterday, that wasn't even a thing because sheriff's departments could not coordinate with these federal agencies to go into their jails for these illegals that were already arrested and take them into custody to deport them. Even, even criminals that we know who have con been charged with a crime, some of which have lengthy criminal records, they would not allow them to come into the jail, arrest them and transfer them for deportation. Apparently, Tom Holman, who just withdrew 700 immigration officials, said he's been able to work that deal. On top of that deal, he has been able to stop working with local chiefs of police. The setting up of local checkpoints of Radical leftist checking IDs and license plates. Let me say that again. There have been checkpoints set up just like in Chaz in Seattle during BLM and TIFA to stop civilians, intervene, interdict them and then ask them, question them whether or not they have id, have papers and what their business is. Can you imagine? I can't imagine in any scenario me getting pulled over or me being stopped by a civilian who's telling me, let me see your id. Yeah, that would be a very bad day for them. But that's happening in Minnesota and chiefs of police, until the conversation was had with Tom Holman, were allowing it to happen. Don't believe me? Go. Go check the videos. It's been happen happening all over. So we know that Alex Preddy is part of a group that were antagonist and intentionally intervening, interdicting in some cases with vehicles and their bodies, ongoing duties of immigration enforcement. That's immigration, that's Border Patrol. What happened that day was he intervened, got involved, and what you saw was exactly what what me and Andy talk about in these courses. You saw officers who aren't trained to do specifically this. Border Patrol and ICE are not trained to do containment, to do riot control. Yeah, they can get a block of instruction for a few hours, but it's not what they do. Anybody can get trained in familiarity, but it's if it's not what they do, they don't have the Experience, and then they screw it up. So when these guys got pretty on the ground, one of my concerns is there was an announcement of gun. Andy described this because we talk about this in these courses and combatives, but also he came from a jiu jitsu perspective. Why did it take four or five, six officers to control Alex Preddy? If one officer was training jiu jitsu, training combatives, and was able to control him, then you wouldn't have had this mobile mentality of doggy piling on. Guys like, you would have one or two guys work in the problem set and have these guys out. The first mistake in leadership, which I, I finally heard addressed today from Tom Holman, is when you have exposure of federal law enforcement officers in these kind of cities where you know there's going to be drama unfolding, that's a huge mistake because you're asking for it to happen. And I think it's part of the playbook, which I'll get into, which is part of why I think this is all deliberate. When you have six, seven officers addressing one person and you don't have control, things get out of hand. And so at one point, somebody announces gun. Now, in combat, when somebody says gun, you back off and you have the rules of engagement to potentially eliminate that threat. In law enforcement, you don't get that. Gun typically means you've identified a gun. But imagine if you've never been in this scenario. In real life, pressure is high, cortisol and adrenaline is through the roof, and you hear gun. Well, then everything spikes. You're in fight or flight, and then everything you do is very reactive. This I've seen play out in scenarios in my course Decision Point. Again, again and again, it's actually common. Let me give you an example. One of the scenarios I do is I have a man and woman. Sometimes they're related. They're husband and wife, boyfriend and girlfriend in the class. Sometimes they're not related. My. My favorite are the ones who are not related. So it's a random guy and a random girl. And I say, you're a couple. You just got done working out at the local gym, and you have a gym bag. And I give one of the people a bag, and typically it's the woman. I say, you get this bag, and I say, you're walking from the gym. You're walking from the gym to the parking lot to get in your vehicle. And what I do is I brief the aggressor. Very specific things. Like, for example, in this scenario, I say, you will not ever threaten Anybody's life. You'll ask for food, for water, say you're hungry. And I want you to continue to reach for the bag, but I don't want you to grab it. I actually don't want you to have physical contact with the woman, but I want you to continue to advance towards her. And then I put the gun, or I give the simunitions gun, in this case, the. The force on force play. I give the gun to the. The man who's with the woman. And then the aggressor has no weapon. His entire goal is to pretend like he's homeless, he's hungry, and he's trying to get into the bag to get food in desperation. So they come out, he goes towards the bag, and immediately, in most cases, the guy draws the gun and he's telling the guy to back up, to back up, to back up. And the guy advances, he lunges towards the bag, and he gets shot, typically in the back. I've seen this scenario play out a dozen times, and typically it's exactly the same. The guy shoots the homeless guy in the back five times. And then I go to the audience, the other students who are acting as observers, and I say to them, who here thinks that what they just saw was manslaughter or murder? And almost everybody exclusively raises their hand. Then we go to the shooter and I say, walk me through what you saw. And he says, dude, I. I thought he was going to hurt, seriously injure or kill my wife, my spouse. And I said, you don't think it's a problem that you shot him five times in the back as he was grabbing at the bag, not even physically contacting your wife? And sometimes you'll get like, oh, yeah, I didn't think about that. But most of the time you'll get. I just, I don't want to take a chance. And I did what I had to do. So back to Preddy circumstance. Somebody pulled the gun out of his holster when they said gun. Now there's this big debate online whether or not that gun and the person who was holding it had an accidental discharge. I did not see that. What I saw was video of people talking about it, but no indications from the actual gun itself, like muzzle flipping and recoiling and that person's hand that that gun went off. What we do know is two officers. Two officers fire their, Their. Their weapon systems. As soon as those shots rang out, Alex Preddy laid there and he died. He was dead on the scene. 1. It's very tragic for anybody to get killed in Fact, I looked up the statistics that night because I saw a Chicago protest over the Alex Preddy shooting. In that same 24 hour period in Humboldt park which is known for violence in Chicago, There was a 30 year old who was shot in the head, likely a young African American that was killed in the inner cities of Chicago. Nobody protested his death and the the response would be, well, this is different. Is it? I think personally any loss of life is bad and everybody should be protected. The questions are, was this guy murdered? Well, if through the objective reasonableness of the officer, he determined that his life was in danger, other officers lives were potentially in danger or they were potentially going to be seriously injured because that's part of it, serious bodily harm or death, then it would be justified. And that's not from the perspective of the camera's view where you obviously see there is no gun because he could say, all he has to say is the man was going to go towards his waistband. I didn't know he didn't have a gun and I feared for my life. It's the same benefit of the doubt that you get now why I think this is more volatile outside of your personal opinion, whether or not you think it was a murder, a tragic circumstance. Alex Freddie was an antagonist or he was an innocent protester. What's more concerning is the playbook, because here's what's happening. How many organizations in the national media are talking about fraud in Minnesota? We're not talking about like a couple hundred grand political corruption. We're talking about billions of federal and state taxpayer dollars. I just saw a thing today reported by James o' Keefe where he interviewed somebody who said that none of these people in Minnesota are going to get put in jail. Wow, that's concerning. So what is the playbook? Well, the playbook as we understand it, because this is well coordinated. The playbook is the radical left following Marxist ideology, wants to bring the population to their side. Why? Guys, we're midterm election year. This is a midterm election year. Guess who will win most midterm elections? The Democrats. They're rezoning districts in their states. You have states like Massachusetts that has 11 elected seats, nine congressionally, two in the Senate, and every single one of them, despite 25 to 30% of Massachusetts population voting for Trump, they're all Democrats across the board. The state is locked into Dems. 8% of the population of Massachusetts is Republican, 25% is Democrat and the rest is independent, meaning they can go either way. So how does this play out? Well, you have a Nick Shirley who comes in, reports on the truth, massive fraud, waste and abuse. The politicians know it. They allow these communities to get away with it because they're getting their vote. It's the same argument over this nationalization of federalizing the vote or nationalizing the vote. You know why most Democrats don't want this? Because they've already applied laws, for example, in California where you don't need an ID so they'll swing the vote in their favor. You have to get an ID to buy a pack of cigarettes in this country, but you don't need an ID to vote in a presidential election. And then if you talk about that, which there are some people even in the Republican Party saying this is a bad thing. Like what? Out of all the things we could agree on or disagree on, this is not one of the things that we disagree on. We want American citizens to vote in these elections, but that's not what they want. So if you go into their state, for example, Nick Shirley goes into Minnesota and exposes the fraud, then starts holding people accountable, starts throwing people in jail, they don't like that. So how do you turn the tables? With a strategy. Strategy? A mobilization. A mobilization of a whole bunch of protesters that are paid, some of them 80 to $100,000. And then they're outraged and then they conflict in these scenarios perpetuated by the propaganda pushed by left wing politicians like Jacob Frey. And the next thing you know, you have a shooting. And you know what everybody's talking about now is these type of things like murders, assassinations, rights protest. But nobody's talking about fraud, waste and abuse. And so I believe this is the precursor to not a conventional civil conflict or civil war, but what's likely to happen in the future when you have Republicans not rezoning because they just don't want to get involved in stuff like that because they're too conservative to do things like that, then you're going to lose. And then you'll have entire states that are just Democrat locked out. Can you imagine that same checkpoint in Minnesota checking your id and instead of asking you whether or not you're ice, they ask what political affiliation you have. Do you have paperwork that we've given out that says you're a liberal, a left leftist, anti fascist, and if you don't, there's consequences. They throw you in a makeshift prison, they kill you on site. I mean, it's not too far stretched to think that this is a possibility when we have already the radicals coming out and doing whatever is necessary to drive us away from the truth and more into the narrative. Here's a prediction. Nick Shirley's in California right now. You're already seeing slight headlines coming out of California where he's going to expose the truth of fraud, waste and abuse, the homelessness, the fires, there's lots of it. And what do you think is going to happen? Well, he's going to spew radical. Newsom's going to spew radical rhetoric. He's going to get people to hit the streets because he's going to pay them. Not him, but proxy. He'll get paid. They'll be paid agitators on the streets. You'll get some federal organization protecting the buildings, and then you'll get some conflict. It's what they want. It's what they want. So can you imagine going from like north to south in this country, driving in South Carolina, for example, where you have New Yorkers who have moved to Myrtle Beach, Daytona beach, you know, South Carolina and Florida to get out of those radical areas where California's have moved to Texas. And then to go through specific states, you have to show specific identification. Divided we stand is that scenario. It's scary. Also, the Epstein files. So I'm super disappointed. Three and a half million documents, 200,000 of those documents redacted. Millions of documents, not dropped. And they continue to say there's nothing to see here. There was nothing to see here. Cash Patel said that there's plenty to see. I just saw a headline where this. They're asking because they want to get Bill Gates potentially. They're weighing whether or not they want Bill Gates to testify. Bill Gates is named in thousands of documents. Thousands. And there's a lot of shenanigans around him visiting the island. Yet you're telling me the DOJ doesn't have any corroboration or correlation to him and these victims full of crap, even if they weren't underage, him facilitating, like paying $2 million to Epstein's fund, that's facilitating human trafficking. He's paying for those services. And those services were allegedly trafficking thousands of victims. Now, I don't think Gates was with thousands of victims, but he certainly was with some. And this idea that he says, well, he was writing emails to himself, it's called a draft, dummy. It's called a draft. That wasn't emails to himself. That was a draft because he was about to blow you out of your socks because he was going to blackmail you. In fact, he already did because when you guys were on the fallout, your organization paid him $2 million. I'm also disappointed by Elon Musk, who touts that he's never been in the island. He's never done anything except he was nearly begging to want to be part of the party. Now he. He might have thought the parties were just a whole bunch of chicks all of age, but it's disgusting. And the fact that the government puts out lies and says there is nothing to see here and then releases the documents, and there's plenty to see, including lots of arguments that these guys are being protected. The narrative that I buy into, I don't. Look, a lot of people are up in arms about child trafficking. I get that. But a lot of these women weren't children. They were human trafficked. So you have the child component, the human trafficking component. And here's what I think. I just heard a guy on Joe Rogan's podcast who talked about the possibility, because of the ties that Epstein had in the 70s and 80s with guys who cooperated and were assets of the CIA, that this was a money laundering segment for the CIA. You see, the CIA can't just write you a check or write a check for operations. They have to launder the money. It's how they navigate the payout for everything. Was this guy working for the CIA? The idea is he's working for Mossad, but I think potentially he was working for the Agency. And he said to prove it, you just got to do a FOIA request for documents related to Epstein and the CIA. Oh, by the way, he did that FOIA request himself two different times. Yes, Epstein foyered the CIA to find out what was known about him. And why would you do that? Well, you would do that to see if somebody else foyered the CIA what you would populate, what the CIA would populate and potentially burn of him. They denied the request. They partially denied the request. So it's not just child trafficking, human trafficking, but our own government could be complicit in this entire op, which is why they're so hesitant. And I can't imagine a scenario where there's not documents on Epstein from the CIA. All the documents released were from the FBI and the doj. What about the Agency? I want to see those. I mean, how long did it take us decades to get the documents from jfk? It is not above the CIA to do something like that. And did it backfire? A lot of times it does. You know, these operations that they do, as they play out, things get worse, things get bad or go bad. And then you have a scenario like this where nobody wants to release anything. The CIA is advising. My hope is because Tulsi Gabbard's in that position, Joe Kent's in a position is that eventually this gets out and we can learn the truth instead of protecting these elites that are obviously pedophiles, that are human trafficking children and women, thousands of victims and nobody's in prison for it. Yeah, I don't think so. Lastly, on the subject matter of gender affirming care, do you even know what that means? So most organizations, medical groups approve this because they think it's the right thing to do. I don't. It's made me lose faith in the entire healthcare system. But recently, as of a couple days ago, one group decided it was not appropriate. So thank God, one group step up and said it's not appropriate to do hormone therapy and gender affirming care to remove the breast of young girls or the genitalia of young boys and girls. Thank God somebody's stepping up. But the biggest turning point is that in this suit, this person who was a 16 year old girl who had her breasts removed won this suit for $2 million. Why does that matter? Because it opens Pandora's box. It opens up an opportunity for all these victims, because they're all victims, to sue the doctors and psychologists who told them that it was acceptable to do this in reverse, irreversible in air quotes care where they completely altered them forever. Where little girls that grow up to be women sound like men because of the testosterone they were taking, or worse yet, physical surgical procedures that altered them forever. I hope every single one of them sue and we can get back to some semblance of normalcy. Because it's crazy. It's crazy times, guys. 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