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Ryan Reynolds
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Paul Brunson
Good morning guys. Welcome back to the Mike Force podcast. It's good to be back with you. I apologize for the slurping. I gotta get my coffee this morning. Big shout out to Black Rifle Coffee company. We gotta get into it. The EDC series. It continues. Look, there's a lot of mistakes that we make in EDC everyday carry. You're pretty familiar with the term. It became very popular on the Internet because it hashtag. Well, it looked cool, but I've made a series of mistakes even in marketing this to you. I talked about in a video I did for Philcraft outpost on the YouTubes about how for example, first aid as it translates from military to civilian applications isn't always translatable. And I talked about the tourniquet. Yeah, for sure have a tourniquet. That's important to have, but that's not the highest statistical probability. The reality is if you're in a pew pew exchange with somebody or you take it on the chest literally, you're going to have to have a different piece of equipment. A hyphen chest seal, a halo chest seal, a chest seal, period. The ability to needle decompress. I've done that as a civilian. I needle decompressed. A buddy of mine who was in a tragic accident on his motorcycle where he had a lacerated chest that caused one of his lungs to deflate. And that's how it works. A tourniquet was good for extremities in the military because we had body armor on protecting our chest cavity and it's not. Don't, don't carry, do not not carry a tourniquet. I hate wording it that way, but carry a tourniquet for sure. Carry a tourniquet. I'm not saying don't, but also have a chest seal. And how many of you have thought about carrying a chest seal? It's not common. It's not something that we even educate. But we have to because of the probability, the statistical probability. Let me get some more of this coffee. Big shout out to our sponsor. If you haven't heard about Carnival, then you're not paying attention to my podcast or the content that I do. Top sirloin beef, it's raw, it's uncooked. You constitute this in like 5 minutes with your favorite seasoning and you cook it up and it's steak, it's just meat, but it's also 25 year shelf life meat. They have chicken and pork as well. My favorite is the beef. But look at this big bag of top sirloin beef. It keeps well, it's for preppers. It's also something that you should be eating, just camping, overlanding, backcountry hunting, whatever you're into. And again, that 25 year shelf life is a huge benefit. Check them out in the links down below. Look, when I look at everyday carry applications, the primary start point is going to be the breakout of the pistola on my Patreon. I'm going to do an underground, we call it, we're calling it Training Companion TC for paid members. We're doing a breakout of the distillation of these conversations. So I'm talking about pistols and pew, pew for edc. I'll show you for example, a pistol, how, how to, how to look at it, what to consider. And then I'm going to go through a grip class because I think that's the fundamentals, that's the basic start point. Stay tuned for that on my next episode on my Patreon link down below. Look, pistol considerations, there are many considerations, but let's think about those considerations. Let's say you know nothing about pistols and you're like, I'm going to get into carrying a pistol for self defense. Man, woman, you, you go to the gun store, you have no experience and you say, hey, I want a pistol. And the person who's responsible, and this is most places that I know of, ready gunner, for example, they're going to say what are you using it for? Because the application for target practice, for sport, for carry are very different. But let's say you say it's for self defense. I want a pistola for self defense. Okay, let's walk you over to this section. And typically it's going to be a subcompact section. Now let's say compact for the sake of nomenclature is very small. Subcompact is somewhere in between. In full size is what you would have overtly or outside the waistband for a range session or for target practice or for sport. So they're gonna say, hey, you need this compact pistol more than likely this summer.
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Dr. Lisa
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Paul Brunson
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Dr. Lisa
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Paul Brunson
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Dr. Lisa
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Paul Brunson
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Ryan Reynolds
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Dr. Lisa
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Paul Brunson
So if you hear a pause, you're listening to me on Spotify. That's me drinking coffee. I just got to get in me. So they're going to walk you to that section, and they're going to say, hey. Okay, these are what we recommend. The benefit is going to be over another consideration, maybe magazine capacity or round capacity in the magazine, like this Glock 43X or this Glock 19. You know, this Glock 19 has 15 rounds plus one in the chamber. It's a good carry configuration. You're a man. You have bigger hands. You could potentially carry this. So one of the first things I do when somebody asks me, I want to get into a pistol, as I say, let me see your hand compared to mine. I'll have them bring up their hand on my hand. Now, this is not. I'm not trying to brag here. I mean, I don't think it. I don't think it's a bragging point at all. But my. My hands are huge. I have big paws and big feet. 13ft. 13 size feet and big paws. I should be six three, six four. I'm six one. I stunted my growth because I'm half Korean. That's just the reality of it. So I'm holding my hand up to the camera for. For the youtubes. My hand is massive. I think the spread. I mean, my wrist is 8 inches in circumference, and my hand is large. A large palm and large fingers. I could. I could. I could palm a basketball when I was 16. Now why does that matter? Well, one, I want you to put your hand on mine because I want to see how it relates to mine. I want to look at finger length and palm size. Because if you're like me, if you have a compact pistol, let's say a Glock 43X, right? Ruger LCR, even the Sig 365X Macro, then you're going to overwhelm that pistol. On a Glock 43X, my support hand as positioned on the frame of the pistol, my thumb moving forward, as illustrated by my hands in this video, are nearly, if not in some cases, depending on the pistol size, my left thumb, my support hand thumb is beyond the side of the frame and slot. So it's like exposed to the end of the barrel where the bullet comes out, the projectile comes out of the barrel. Now inherently, people with larger hands overwhelm the guns, period. But to have my finger exposed to the end of the barrel, which will bite you for sure, it's bit me before. But in, in cases where you're not positioned on the pistol correctly because you're in an alternative position, a compromise position, you're fighting for your life, you're holding the gun retracted, you're, you're offhand, you're sideways, that could be a problem. On top of that, one of the major considerations is the overall size is going to likely determine the way the gun muzzle flips and recoils. It's one and the same. It's, it's physics, right? The gun goes up and it goes back. That, that inertia or momentum up and back is part of this cycle of operation. When the bullet is struck, the primer is struck, and you have combustion taking place in a closed chamber, right? That's, that's how these guns cycle. It goes boom. That explosion moves the slide rearward and it's typically operating in its cycle utilizing its mechanical advantage, a spring and rod. I mean that's typical, that spring and rod, that recoil spring and rod on a compact or subcompact is very small. And it's because the slide is reciprocating very fast. It's a smaller slide overall, a shorter stroke in motion. And when that happens, you're going to get a snap your bite on the gun. So even a Glock 43X with my big hands being a bigger guy, is hard to manage. Now if you take a female with a hand half of my size, it's going to be even harder for her to manage. So the question is when? A and I've seen this a hundred times. I've taught thousands of people over the course of the last decade, civilian wise, and thousands of men in the military from Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, I mean every country that you could name. I've trained these guys. So a lot of, a lot of reputations. And I've seen it all one of the biggest factors is how does the gun feel in your hands and how confident do you feel shooting that gun? A lot of women and some men who shoot very small subcompact pistols will say, man, I hate the way this thing feels in my hand. In addition to that, you have to consider in the cycle of operation, the split time in between. It's how you measure the time in between shots. If you have a gun and it fires and it goes pop, the muzzle flips, it goes back in recoil, and then it settles that time in between those shots. The first and second shot, for example, is measured in splits. That split time is a good indication on target one, how quickly the gun cycles, but also how fast you're getting back on target and breaking the second shot. Now, you could have two shots in sequence that are considered a double tap, where one shot is in one place and the second shot is in another place. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a control pair. How long does it take the gun to shoot in one spot? Point of aim, point of impact? The gun cycles and it settles back in that position. And then you break the second shot and it lands in the same spot or in the general vicinity. That's an important measure because that control pair is an indication how quickly the gun cycles. And one of the variabilities is how you're holding the position and maintaining that muzzle flip and recoil, that control. Now it's going to muzzle flip regardless. But you could reduce the muzzle flip for sure with a tight grip or a right grip. And then when it settles back in the same position, how you break that shot in your trigger control or manipulation is also important. So if you are not able to manage the cycle of operations sequentially through each individual round through a gunfight, because it's going to be multiple rounds on target in a rapid engagement scenario, then that's a problem. Now, a lot of people that I've heard say it wrong say, well, you don't need that many rounds. Like, they're not educated on how a gunfight works. For example, in a couple seconds, you can get a lot of rounds off in a couple seconds. If you have a 0.1720 split breaking that shot, which is pretty common for decent shooters on target. Well, do the math. 0.20 seconds, a third of a second, you're going to break off multiple rounds in a couple of seconds. That's how long it takes you to drop. Excuse me.
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Dr. Lisa
Wow.
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Paul Brunson
If I, if I told you right now, From a standing position to drop down to a laying down position and you pretending like you were a kid, cowboys and Indians, you get hit and you, oh, and you fall on the ground. That will take you a minimum of 2 seconds for your big body to fall on the ground. So again, I could get five to 10 shots off before you even hit the ground. And I perceive that you're no longer a threat. So this idea, you're going to shoot a couple of rounds and then assess, that's not going to happen. You're going to break multiple shots off in a rapid engagement scenario in one sequence. You know, whatever the methodology, from sternum to head, breaking them center mass, whatever it is, it's going to be a multiple round engagement, which means one, you have to be confident in the pistol you're holding. That confidence equates to managing muzzle flip and recoil, a reduced split that you could manage and accuracy on target, letting the gun settle in position. And that consideration with a subcompact, even for me is very difficult. So what's the answer? Well, the answer is one, get a pistol that's comfortable for you. Two, you know that because you've shot it, Measure the split time. Anything between a 0.15 and 0.20 split, in my opinion is a, a decent split time maintaining accuracy on target. If you can't maintain that because it's too aggressive in your hand, then you need to reconsider. Also you need to look at three, look at the actual size and the benefit you're getting. A lot of people think subcompact or compact's the way to go because I can conceal it. I use this analogy or this example the other day where if you take a Glock 19 and you stack it on top of a Glock 17, it is very minimal and it's overall size in comparison for this idea or benefit of one being concealed versus one not. So don't default to say, oh, I'm going to go Glock 19 because it's more concealable, because it's actually not really more concealable than a Glock 17. It's the same width and you're maybe saving a half an inch on either side. I needed to do a post of this and stack them on top of each other because there's not a great benefit. And when you look at concealed carry, the question is, where are you carrying it? And that's the second segment of this. Where are you carrying it? If you're carrying a configuration in a fanny pack, then you really don't have to care. You don't really have to worry about these slight variations. And so would you rather have a Glock 43X in a fanny pack that's concealable inside a Phil Craft fanny pack or a Glock 19? I. I can't remember off the top of my head. I think a Glock 43 is like nine rounds, maybe 13. I can't remember. I don't carry one. I carried one for a short period of time before I was like, why am I carrying this? I carry a Glock 17. Was 17 plus one in the round or one in the chamber. So if you're carrying a subcompact but you have the capacity like in a fanny pack or even in your EDC holster in your waistband center. I want to work with Invader Concepts and make a good EDC inside the waistband holster, which I've made these. I used to manufacture holsters for Phil Craft in the waistband, because you're not going to print if you're a larger human being. I have a 30 to 34 inch waist and I can get away with carrying appendix center of my. I mean, it's kind of. It's actually offset. That's why it's called appendix. Your appendix is not where your belly button is. So if you have a belt buckle, which I carry a belt most often, it's offset to the right. And that magazine is still not printing or creating a signature on the right side of my body. So you can get away with carrying it that way in that configuration. So if you can get away with carrying a Glock 43X, maybe check and see if you can get away with a 19 or a 17. Another consideration is women are carrying super small pistols in their purse. Ladies, if you carry a purse and you have a setup, the reason you would go smaller is because you don't have the capacity in your waistband because you have a very small waist. My wife's waist is. I mean, I could, between my finger, my thumb and my pinky, I could almost cover her waist line. Super small. I mean, my hands can almost fit around her entire waist to tmi. But what I mean is, like, she's not going to get away with a Glock 17 carrying concealed, but maybe a 19, maybe a 365X Macro, which is a great configuration and in width, a great overall pistol for women to carry. Overall, I didn't help in the development of the pistol, but I helped in the, in the, in the marketing of that pistol because I believed in it so much. The tech is in the magazine itself, I mean 17 plus rounds in a short configuration double stack mag. Massive advantage. So your configuration matters. We get wrapped around the axle of taking like a fanny pack from fieldcraft and putting a compact in it. You don't need that. I mean if I, I need a, a mini pistol, it's because I'm not wearing a fanny pack. And maybe for the day I'm going out and pumping gas in the middle of nowhere because I'm on a road trip and I'm carrying a pistol like a Ruger LCR synthetic J frame pistol, hammerless with five rounds and a cylinder that's.38 plus P in my jacket pocket. Right. So capacity matters, guys. I always default to the fanny pack. I used to pitch this idea because I carried it in the agency of a Patagonia fly fishing bag. Well, does that fit into normal routines? For most people it does. And what can you carry if you have a family like mine of four children and a spouse, more first aid communications and then sling the bag and you're wearing a Patagonia fly fishing bag on the, on your back. I, I think it's a great way to think about carrying and it fits into most routines when you're in board shorts that don't have the opportunity to carry that way. Lastly, I mean it's never lastly. Just for this episode because we're, we're doing breakouts for this EDC series next week, I intend to do a segment on lights and then knives and then going down the, the list. But each of these will have training companion breakout sessions on my Patreon because I, I believe in it so much. So lastly, in the pistola space, you have to think about ammo. This is, I still don't understand the, the argument here. I, I don't get into riffs online because I, I'm just doing me, man. I don't have time to, to look into why people are criticizing me about why I talk about ammo considerations. I did a video and said, hey, the, the ammo you use matters. And a couple guys in special operations that are veterans criticized that. And I thought about it and I'm like, wait a minute. These same men that I serve with had different considerations for ammo, different types of caliber, depending on the op. If I was doing containment in a very tight urban environment, I didn't have to carry my.300 win mag because I had.556. If I was doing a vehicle interdiction, I, I might want to have a heavier round, a.308 gas gun or consider 62 grain green tip, something that was penetrating sheet metal. Because I was going up against the vehicle, a person was in the vehicle and just using rounds for people is very different. So a lot of people default, for example, to carrying in their pistol configuration what they would see on a flat range. Guys, bad guys, don't just stand around with her pistola presented or you know, the classic hostage holding. And that's the configuration or that's the disposition they're going to be in there. We live in an environment where we're surrounded by obstacles. It's like doing CQB with no furniture. Sure. Crawl and walk in that environment. But when you're running, you better be in a shoot house that has furniture. The first time that you actually go from a shoot house with no furniture and you go into a shoot house or a real life scenario with furniture, you're like, oh, so I have to like go around this. And then what are, what are the considerations for number two or number three and number four? Man, when they're punching the center of the room and I'm running around a couch in a very confined space train. Like you fight. So bad guys are in obstacles already. You spend a lot of time in your vehicle. There are a lot of incidents that take place in self defense in and around a vehicle. And I said, hey, if you have a pistola and you're looking at home defense, even your home defense setup is very different than your EDC setup. Because my home defense pistol on the nightstand is not going to be a compact pistol. Why would I do that? Well, why would I not look for the tactical advantage? I don't want a subcompact with no optic, no light on my nightstand. I mean, look, if it's a consideration of like, you're broke, then yeah, I guess use what you got. But you might want to invest in having the right tool for the job. And that includes weighing whether or not I'm carrying synthetic bonded self defense ammo versus ball versus, versus whatever. It's why I advocate for 300 Blackout as a truck gun. Why would I carry a truck gun? Why would you not? If you're on a road trip and you're driving your pickup truck with your family and you get in a situation where you need to affect the target through your glass. The most insane thing I've ever seen is this advocation. And you can see it in the threads and the comment sections of most officer involved shootings where the OG cop, the, the gangsta cop is shooting through his windshield and you're like that cop's getting after it. No, he's a liability to all the civilians who are likely going to get injured or killed because this guy doesn't understand ballistics. If you take a synthetic bonded round and you shoot it into a windshield from the inside out or outside in, you are going to fragment that round on glass. It's not going to maintain its integrity or its composition. It's going to fragment and not, it's not the desired outcome that I want because the, the round is meant to fragment on impact, to displace vertical displacement of energy to not over penetrate a target. But when I say that, people are insulted. How dare you talk about ammunition that way. What? Oh, you have an ammunition sponsor. That's why. So what does it mean? Well, here's a couple of pro tips. If you're in and around a vehicle all the time because you live it, you're a truck driver. God bless our truck drivers. Truck drivers are listening to this podcast right now. Then think about the situations you would be in in self defense. It could be from the inside of your truck or inside of your vehicle shooting inside out. And if you're that law enforcement officer who's looking at ammunition, you might want to do ballistic testing, terminal ballistic testing on the glass. As an officer shooting from inside out because you have a piece of laminate between two pieces of glass on that windshield and when you hit it with a self defense round made for an open and clear shot and impact on tissue in a gelatin block, well, God, that's controversial for some reason. All you got to do is do the test. Ball will have a better outcome because of the round itself and how it's composed and what it's meant to do. Sure. You're the SWAT officer walking through a trailer park in CQB and you come across the threat. Very different consideration. You're using 556 anyways, but very different consideration. You're a law enforcement officer on patrol. Most OIS involved shootings in your department happen because you have b cops who are on foot or you're arriving to a domestic. Sure. I'm talking about the self defense consideration for those who Uber drivers, commuters, the list goes on. So weigh the composition and the type of ammo based on what you're doing. I carried magazines, a 62 grain green tip. I had magazines of 70 grain barns. I had magazines of 556 ball when I was training. It just depended on. It depended on what we were doing. Right. So take the statistical probability of what you're most likely to encounter and then factor that. Lastly, I would be amiss if I didn't mention this. I'm going to mention it in the the light block focused on lights but have a light on your pistol in edc. Why would you not have that? The reason you want it is because you want the options. Now I'm going to go through a light block. I'm going to teach it on training companion on Patreon and you're going to be mind blown. I'm going to show you what it looks like when three SWAT officers come through a breach point with white lights because they don't have an MVG capability. I'm going to show you what it looks like when you're looking for a bad guy in your house and you illuminate your white light in a known space. You know the space giving yourself away. I'm going to tell you why it's beneficial for you to have an infrared capability and tactical defense scenarios and including home defense. You mean you would don NVGs in your house? Yeah. If. If you are donning NVGs and you have an infrared laser capability on a weapon system in your home, you have and own the tactical advantage because you own the night. It's something that should excite you because it just. I just gave you the excuse and reasons to justify buying a whole no another loadout of your own kit. I don't sell any of this stuff. I'm not upselling anything. Although I am working on a 60 liter called the D bag for deployments for military and law enforcement but also for civilians that have separate breakouts for your speedball which is an upgraded circumstance for your tactical loadout. I don't care if you're going on vacation. You should consider having a segment and section of your loadout where you have personal hygiene in your clothes and all your crap but also having an upgraded capability of tactical loadout. I'm doing that in Vietnam with my buddy Kyung who's helped me design some really boss kit. I'm being fully transparent. I need those margins. I've tried to make it in America. An example was my mobility bag which cost me cost you about 150 bucks the ones I've designed in America. The cost to make them in America because we did it through Tier Tactical was 120 bucks. Not sustainable. But that's for another conversation. Guys. I appreciate you guys tuning in the podcast. I love you guys. I'm doing a health and wellness block really soon. I just wrote an article for Substack about testosterone. I am off right now because I've had a horrible time with local clinics that only care about just pumping you full of testosterone for the cash. I found a wellness clinic through Brent Tucker's network, a former tier one operator and a friend of mine. And I am working with him because I don't want to be a thousand and above on my testosterone. I was at 400 ish when measured, which for my age is okay. But the available testosterone in my blood is not okay because my endocrine system is fried. This clinic you work with, Phil, the guy who actually will call you and work on your levels and it's a. Is it concierge service? Like, it's a very intimate service where they're working with you based on feeling and you can't get that even in a local clinic because all they care about is the transaction. I've actually linked that down below. I'll talk about it more in advance to save you 20% off for all my guys out there. And if you're into it, girls, all my guys out there looking to get on a program where they ship it to your front door. It saves you 20% on your Kickstarter the program. And it's something that I am going to be on because I need detailed blood work and I need somebody who cares about my own health and wellness, especially in something as significant as testosterone as we age as men. Guys, I appreciate you. I'll catch you next time. Stay tuned for this EDC series. It's going to be awesome. Till next time. Peace.