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Sal DeStefano
There are lots of hurdles to getting fit and staying fit. One of the biggest ones is travel, especially those of you that work that require a lot of travel. The question is, how do I stay in shape or even more, how do I make progress while traveling with my fitness and nutrition? That's what we're going to talk about.
Adam Schafer
Today, New Year, new travel season. I would say this is probably one of the more common things that you would have to prepare for as a trainer because obviously a lot of clients that train with you tend to be affluent, fly for business a lot and or be just vacation occasionally. And so, you know, nothing like disrupting a great routine and rhythm that you just got your client in after they hired you and here comes a vacation or here comes a business trip and to derail them. So coming up with a plan and a strategy was something I'm obviously, as a young trainer, made the mistake of, like, oh, we'll figure it out when you get back. That was not a good idea.
Justin Andrews
Coach you from afar.
Adam Schafer
Yeah.
Justin Andrews
Really planning it out and simplifying the.
Sal DeStefano
Hell out of it.
Adam Schafer
Yes, totally.
Sal DeStefano
And I think that we, you know, because we all our careers were built in Silicon Valley and so we had a significant portion of our clients traveled a lot, probably more than most, I would say. I think you're right, Adam. You know, trainers typically have affluent clients, but when, you know, Silicon Valley, like a significant percentage of people that work here travel, travel. And so this was a problem to figure out.
Adam Schafer
Not only that, that's a Good point. And so, I mean, most of my clients traveled, I know, like regularly, like other clients. It took me a while before I actually distilled this down to a handful of like big rocks.
Sal DeStefano
Yes.
Adam Schafer
I think I over complicated this. So first, first mist. This was, oh, we'll figure it out when you get back. That was a big mistake. Second mistake was, okay, I need to like write up this like serious plan where, which most of them would not. They're busy, they're work, they're in meetings or they're on vacation. And so it took a while before I started to realize, like, okay, it's important that I, I give them a strategy to be successful while they travel, whether it be business or on, on vacation. But I can't over complicate it or overdo it because then I'm setting them up for failure. And so what I love about this episode or these, these, these points we're going to make is I really think we distill it down to a handful of things that's like, just focus on this while you're traveling and we can get more granular when you're here.
Sal DeStefano
Yeah. And I think the important to start out with, we really have to understand the context of what's important here. And it's. There's a couple things that you need to focus on if travel is a relatively regular part of your life and you're trying to get fit or maintain a level of fitness. And one is you don't want to lose momentum. So this is the biggest problem, the biggest challenge. If you're somebody that travels every month or every other month, which is not that uncommon, again, especially in place like Silicon Valley is, you know, you get in this rhythm and then it breaks the rhythm and then getting back into the room, it just feels so difficult. So how do we maintain a certain level of consistency and momentum so it doesn't turn into this on, off, on off, and then eventually just off. Right. The second thing is if you're traveling, you can use fitness and nutrition in a way to improve the experience of your travel. So if you're working and you're having meetings or presentations, this should improve your performance. It should not take away from your performance. If you're traveling for work, that's your number one. Like, I'm not with my family, I'm working. I do this thing, I'm not going to do this workout and I'm not going to, you know, bring my meals with me. It's only going to make what I'm trying to do. So much more difficult. So it also has to improve or add to what you're traveling for in the first place. And when you combine those together, you come up with a really successful strategy. So the first thing is this. I talked about momentum and I talked about improving your productivity or your performance while you travel. And what I, the, the way I approached this early on was totally wrong. The way I approached it was, okay, you're gone for a week. We're going to pick two days to do this, like full on workout. Yeah. And that never worked. Yeah, it never worked. So you got to take an hour out of your day, you got to go to the gym, you got to do your thing, and it just was inconvenient. It didn't add to their performance at work. Only my most hardcore, dedicated clients would keep this up. It almost always was a fail.
Adam Schafer
Yeah, go ahead.
Justin Andrews
Oh, I made the mistake earlier too. I was trying to get so specific. So I would research ahead of time what they had in the gym at the hotel or the surrounding area to see if we could get them a pass to go to the gym. And it's just like too much. Yeah, all these variables, like, make it so, you know, when they're in their meeting and then they have to go from one place and now they want to meet for lunch, then they want to go over here. It just never would line up and. And I just set them up for failure.
Sal DeStefano
That's it. So here's what worked. And this was very effective. And it was, you're going to do a short workout every morning. Every morning you're going to spend 15 to 20 minutes doing a very short workout. And if you miss one or two, it's not a big deal. And actually what happened with my clients is they actually appreciated this because they found that they were more energetic, more productive.
Justin Andrews
Anyway, cognitive benefits to that.
Sal DeStefano
It's huge. Cognitive. Yeah, it's phenomenal. And so there's a few ways that we would do this. One, and this is the most obvious is we, you know, okay, well, hopefully if you could pick a hotel that has a gym, let's. Let's start there. Sometimes they don't have this option. Sometimes the hotel they're staying at or where they're staying is not dictated by them. But if it was, let's find one with a gym that makes it really convenient and if not, a suspension trainer and bands. That's it. Very easy to take with you. It's controllable.
Justin Andrews
I think that's really what I learned was just like the more you can go in with the controllables already thought of ahead of time and the simplicity of it, way more attainable to, you know, you know, release them and know they're going to get the accomplishment.
Adam Schafer
Well, I also want you, let's address the desired outcome of this period of time too. This is not when I'm trying to make huge leaps in progress with my client. I just don't want to regress.
Sal DeStefano
That's right.
Adam Schafer
And I care more, especially if it's a business trip, I care more about the cognitive benefits. So really just some sort of movement. We've talked about ad nauseam, the study that supports, you know, it takes 1/7 the volume of training to hold and maintain the muscle that you built. So in a one week vacation or a three day business trip, we're not going to lose all your muscle. And so really what I'm looking at is like some sort of stimulation so that we don't go backwards. And I care more about the cognitive benefits and just movement overall. And so making it so easy like bands or suspension trainer or like a Maps 15 routine that they can do in a gym hotel is such a superior way to go about this versus Justin's point about organizing some one day pass at a big commercial gym they have to go to. And it's not to say that there's somebody who's listening that doesn't love to do that, like if that's your jam and that works for you. And I absolutely have 1 percenter. Yeah, I absolutely had a client or two that was like that. And so I know, I know they exist, but I, I know I made the mistake as a trainer and I failed my clients a lot of times over complicating this process versus really distilling it down. Okay, what is our desired outcome? Our desired outcome is that we don't regress this, this great progress we made. Okay, well what does that take then? It doesn't take a lot of training and training intensity and volume takes just a little bit of stimulation and some good choices, food and some movement and we're going to be successful.
Sal DeStefano
I would tell my clients just like this very basic, I'd say you're going to do a push, you're going to do a pull and you're going to do some type of a squat. And the squat could be a lunge, it could be a traditional squat, it could be some type of a deadlift, covers the basis. It could be a push, could be a push up, an overhead press of some sort, a pull could be Some kind of a row or some pull down with a band. That's it. Three exercises. Three exercises every single day is all you need to do. And there's another part to this that I found to be extremely valuable. When clients did this, they felt so good doing this first thing in the morning, then going to work and doing the meeting, that they actually developed a great relationship with this to where they looked forward to it. And that's everything, right? If this becomes, I mean, just to put it differently, if this is something you look forward to doing, you're going to do it. The way to do that is to make it benefit what you're there to do in the first place. Three exercises. That's it. Two to three exercises every morning that you're there with a suspension trainer or bands or the hotel gym and you're done. You're looking at 15 to 20 minutes, 30 minutes if it's the hotel gym, because you got to walk to it and walk back and you're finished and you get your day started and you're ready to go, you're not going to lose any progress. You're going to feel good, you're going to be moving, you're more productive anyway. It's great. And by the way, you can't push for progress and gains all the time, even if you don't travel. So this is the other thing. People are always like, oh, I'm not going to push to make progress. Even if you didn't travel, we're not always trying to push for progress. You can't do that. Your body requires long periods of time where you're kind of maintaining with these short sprints of progress anyway. This just so happens it'll fall right into the. Hey, I'm maintaining.
Adam Schafer
Well, I think this attitude, this setup, sets you up for the next thing on your list, which is the walk after every meal. And I find that the client that gets up and just does the two exercises kickstarts their day. And then they're more likely to be active and make those choices totally versus the client who, you know, slept in that day or decides they're not going to do anything or it's an all or nothing. Either I get to the gym and I do that hour hard workout, or I don't. And then if I don't, I end up not being active throughout the rest of the day. And so I've found just getting them setting the bar low, where it's just like, hey, here's the two movements we're going to do. Either in Your hotel room or with the bands, or if they actually have a, you know, little gym workout that we can go down and do, and then they find that the rest of the day they're already more active.
Sal DeStefano
That's right, that's right. So again, you just go for a short walk after your meals and when you have breaks. And I got a great story around this. I had a client that would travel and part of his travel included or involved creating relationships or networking. And he actually found this to be extremely valuable for that. So they would have their lunch or whatever with the company and then he would take some as, hey, you want to go for a walk with me? And they would have like a little meeting, you know, a 10 minute walk around the hotel. You know, you don't have to go outside. Outside is great. But sometimes you're in a place where maybe it's snowing and raining or whatever. You go walk around in the convention center or the hotel, take someone with you. It's 10 minutes. By the way, we're not talking about a 35 minute walk. You do a 10 minute walk after your meals or during a break. Now you've added throughout the day 20 to 30 minutes worth of walking. This keeps you moving, keeps you productive. It feels good. And you could do the networking, you could do meetings this way. It's extremely beneficial. Yeah, all this is the antidote.
Justin Andrews
So it's so sedentary when you're traveling just to get there, being an airplane and then decompressing from that, being in the hotel. So yeah, any opportunity you can to really, you know, walk and get some steps in is gonna be great.
Sal DeStefano
You know, if you, you're bringing your suspension trainer, your bands, one other thing you can bring is a protein powder. Very easy to pack, bring with the shaker cup. This is a very easy substitute for a meal or to hit your protein targets. And oftentimes, in my experience, my clients would do this for breakfast. So breakfast was typically not the meal where the company would do the thing. It was typically lunch. Lunch was the meal when they're meeting with people and they're doing something together. Breakfast was kind of on their own. And I'd have them bring a shake and so they could have their 40, 50 grams of protein in the morning. It's very, you know, it's a little bit of food or it's barely any food. They have lots of energy to hit their protein targets. It's. I think this is a very valuable thing to travel with. Very easy to travel.
Adam Schafer
If you. Okay, so I have, I have several pieces of luggage that I use to travel. Ones like smaller luggage. When I'm going somewhere short, I have a bigger one than for when I'm long travel. If you go in there right now, in my room, you will find at the bottoms of those bags and travel cases, I have creatures of habit. Protein oatmeal.
Sal DeStefano
Yeah.
Adam Schafer
And it's just, I've. I've trained myself to always have four or five that I just throw and I just, I leave it, leave them in there. Just leave them in there until they go low and then I throw more in there and I keep it in there for this exact reason, because it's something so quick that I can mix up and I can drink or in this case, eat really quick. And this is where I find shakes, bars, stuff like this really beneficial. Totally. Obviously on the show we talk so much about promoting whole foods and that's the goal. When you're traveling and you're on the go, having this stuff ready for you makes it a lot easier for you to not make that choice to go in and get the high calorie Starbucks drink or to drive through and go some fast food. And so this is where I'm very pro utilizing shakes or protein oatmeals or things like that. That's easy, accessible for the client.
Sal DeStefano
Totally. And then when you do eat food, seek out the protein and eat it first. Almost every meal will allow for this. So you may be getting food presented to you guys. You're in this big meeting. Here's the lunch. Seek out the proteins, eat that, eat it first. Aim to hit your body weight in grams of protein for the day. So if you know that requires 50 grams of protein, eyeball it, eat it first. Now the data on this is, I mean, we talk about this on the podcast all the time, but when you eat your body weight in grams of protein, it reduces the amount of total calories that you eat. It's very satiety producing protein itself. It's great for muscle. It's also great for fat loss. So in studies where their calories are controlled, one's high protein, one's moderate or low protein, the high protein diets tend to outperform the other ones. So seek out that protein. So when you're at the, you know, your lunch and you see the salad bar and there's the chicken and then, oh, there's some bread over there, you know, I'm gonna get the protein first, I'm gonna eat that, I'm gonna stick to that. And then if I want some more food afterwards, I'll eat it. This is just. By the way, this is just good advice across the board. Anytime you eat out, anytime you eat out, seek out the protein, eat it first, aim for a large serving of it, and you would be shocked. People who've never done this before, it is remarkable how well this controls overall food intake. It's extremely effective.
Adam Schafer
So my generic rule was eating out for breakfast and lunch, you double the meat no matter what. If you're at a restaurant like, say, like a steakhouse, you can order like the regular steak. But most places, this is the place that I think the clients have to be the most careful with, is that most breakfast and lunch in particular, some. Some dinners, but mostly breakfast and lunch, servings of protein is only like 4 ounces. So the rule was double meat, eat your veggies first. I'm not managing the rest after that. As long as you did that at every meal, double the meat, eat your veggies first. I'm not, I'm not worried about the other stuff. And just make sure that every meal that you're doing that they hit their protein intake. They get full enough off of that, even if they had a little bit of chips or crackers or bread or a drink or whatever afterwards, they got satiated enough from just eating the high protein. One, they had enough protein to keep the lean body mass that we had built. Two, it suppressed the appetite enough that when they got done with this trip, we didn't lose any of our gains.
Sal DeStefano
That we worked so hard for. And then if there are no good options, unless you have a history of eating disorder, unless you're underweight, fast, if there's no good options, just don't eat. It's not a big deal, everybody. It really isn't a big deal. And here's what you may find. This is what I find, at least in the short term. If I'm traveling for work, it's typically a few days. For most people, it's no longer than a week. Fasting here and there, in short periods of time, you tend to get improvement in focus and improvement in your ability to pay attention. You tend to have better cognitive performance. The data pretty much supports us. Again, there are cases where this may not be the case, but for many people, you tend to feel better. So I'll give an example. Like, you know, if I went to a place that served, let's say, breakfast, say I'm going to a convention and there's a big meeting of speakers, sometimes I go speak at an event so like, okay, come up. We're all gonna have breakfast together before the event. It's all pancakes and sometimes they provide food and what is it? It's a bunch of muffins and bagels and stuff like that. I'm gonna skip. I'm not. There's really nothing here for me to eat. I'm just gonna fast and I'm gonna be okay. And I feel better versus when I eat the muffins and I eat the bread and then I feel lethargic the rest of the day. So there's no good options, just fast. Not a big deal.
Adam Schafer
It's so funny, you put. I didn't know this is what you meant when you put fast. I went through my head is what has happened to me the last couple times I've traveled is most places now even if they don't serve food or that's all they have is like this. You can. You could doordash to the hotel.
Sal DeStefano
Yes.
Adam Schafer
So I thought you meant by fast, like fast food that can get delivered to you. And every city that at least that I've gone to, this is a new thing.
Sal DeStefano
Because when I was training clients, they didn't have them.
Adam Schafer
No. So this has now become this new option where I've been at hotels or these inns where they don't have any food or just like a bar and it's like drinks or it's just like muffin type stuff. And I'm like, okay, I just pull up and then doordash pulls what's near me. And then on there, there's always one or two options where I can get a double serving of meat. And we've talked about some of the most popular place online that have those things. And then I just have it delivered to the hotel and I eat it like that.
Sal DeStefano
Yeah, that's what I do now. That's so funny. You know what? You know what it is, Adam? I was thinking of when I used to train clients and you know, when I was training clients, you know, 15 years ago, that wasn't an option.
Adam Schafer
Yeah.
Sal DeStefano
Now it's an option. That's what I do. So when I travel for mind pump, if I. If there are no good options, I doordash. Because sometimes hotels don't even have great options. But there's always restaurants around. They'll deliver it to the front desk, you're downstairs and pick it up.
Adam Schafer
Yeah, I didn't. So it wasn't until one of our trips where we're traveling to. To do interviews and stuff, and I saw somebody else do it. I went, oh my God.
Sal DeStefano
I don't know.
Adam Schafer
Yeah. At home I. I knew that. I was obviously used to that. I'm like, I didn't even think that.
Sal DeStefano
I do it every time.
Adam Schafer
Yeah. That's now become the thing where even if like the place doesn't have, like, it could even have food, if it does have options, I like, I'm like, let me see what I can get just brought to me from right here. And then I can be a little pickier about what I want and then have it delivered. And so, yeah, that really we over complicate this a lot. And clients used to too. And I'm just as guilty as a trainer of overcomplicating this with macros and calories and stuff like that. It's like, man, if I can get my client to just move and be active during this trip that they're on, be aware of that they've either been sitting on a plane for a really long time or that they can easily just kind of lounge around like getting them to be active and move. If I can get them to do just a couple exercises to start their day every single morning. And then if I could just get them to like, I don't want to tell my client who's going to Hawaii and hasn't been there in 10 years. Like, you can't have any of these foods. Use all your macros. It's just like, enjoy yourself, but eat the protein first. Like, just do that first for me and then do that thing. It just makes a huge difference on the success rate of that trip. And when they come back, it's not like I'm having to unwind all this damage the muscle that we've lost, the body fat that we've put on. They've remained active, they've maintained where we're at, and it's just a much better strategy.
Sal DeStefano
Yeah. Which actually brings us to the last point, which is focus on what's important for your travel, whether it's for business or it is for leisure. Because if you make it all about the diet, all about the workout, all about it turns into rebound. Either it becomes all or nothing. Either you lose the benefit of the. The reason why you're traveling in the first place because you're so stressed out, or it becomes an escape. This will sometimes happen with fitness fanatics when they go on vacation. It becomes less about the vacation and more about the food. Oh, my God. I've been dieting to go to Hawaii. Now that I'm here, I'm just gonna gorge and eat like crazy. So focus on what's important and don't sweat too much the details. Which is exactly, you know, kind of what you said. By the way, we have a guide. It's a doordash diet guide. So on it we cover popular places to eat, what's good for cutting, what's good for bulk, best options, worst options, macro breakdowns. It's a totally free guide if you want it. All you gotta do is go to mpdordash.com and we'll send it right over to you. Also you can find us on Instagram indpumpmedia. We'll see you there.
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Title: How To Make Progress While Traveling
Date: January 19, 2026
Hosts: Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews, Doug Egge
In this episode, the Mind Pump crew lays out their practical, science-backed strategies for staying fit and making progress—even when frequent travel threatens to derail health and fitness routines. Drawing from decades of experience as trainers to professionals (many in Silicon Valley, where travel is the norm), hosts Sal, Adam, and Justin break travel fitness down into manageable tactics, focus on momentum and cognitive benefits, and emphasize that keeping it simple is crucial for sustainable success.
“If you’re somebody that travels every month or every other month…you get in this rhythm and then it breaks the rhythm and then getting back into the room, it just feels so difficult.” — Sal (05:54)
"I made the mistake as a trainer and I failed my clients a lot of times over complicating this process versus really distilling it down." — Adam (09:31)
"They felt so good doing this first thing in the morning, then going to work and doing the meeting, that they actually developed a great relationship with this to where they looked forward to it." — Sal (11:41)
"Client that gets up and just does the two exercises kickstarts their day. And then they're more likely to be active and make those choices."
"[My client] would take someone as, 'Hey, you want to go for a walk with me?'…they would have like a little meeting…It's 10 minutes…Now you've added throughout the day 20 to 30 minutes worth of walking." — Sal (13:30)
(19:57–21:23) Adam and Sal discuss how modern delivery apps (DoorDash, etc.) are game-changers, allowing clients to get better food options brought directly to hotels, even when on the road:
"Now it’s an option…restaurants around. They’ll deliver it to the front desk, you’re downstairs and pick it up." — Sal (20:47)
Resource Mentioned: The Mind Pump DoorDash Diet Guide, available for free at mpdordash.com, offering macro-friendly, health-conscious options for various restaurant chains and meal types (bulking, cutting, maintenance).
“If you make it all about the diet, all about the workout…it turns into rebound. Either it becomes all or nothing…So focus on what's important and don't sweat too much the details." — Sal (22:35)
On Momentum and Simplicity:
“How do we maintain a certain level of consistency and momentum so it doesn't turn into this on, off, on off, and then eventually just off. Right?”
— Sal (05:54)
On Over-Prescription:
“I was trying to get so specific. So I would research ahead of time what they had in the gym at the hotel or the surrounding area to see if we could get them a pass to go to the gym. And it's just like too much.”
— Justin (07:58)
On Cognitive Benefits:
“Anyway, cognitive benefits to that…"
— Justin (08:49)
“It's huge. Cognitive. Yeah, it's phenomenal.”
— Sal (08:51)
On Protein First:
“When you eat your body weight in grams of protein, it reduces the amount of total calories that you eat. It's very satiety producing...”
— Sal (16:29)
On Flexibility:
“If there are no good options, unless you have a history of eating disorder, unless you're underweight, fast, if there's no good options, just don't eat. It's not a big deal, everybody.”
— Sal (18:45)
This episode provides a powerful, concise framework for anyone traveling who wants to maintain fitness and health—with no need for overthinking, guilt, or falling into the all-or-nothing trap.