Scott Clary: The Truth About Building Real Influence | Motivation | E17 - Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey (Motivation, Self Help, and Mental Health)

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Hello, my name is Tim Storey. Welcome to Miracle Mentality.
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Remember rooftops, drawing spaceships on the ground.
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It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow, and light.
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Welcome to the Miracle Mentality. This podcast is working. You guys are watching, you're liking, you're subscribing, you're texting me. If you don't have my number, let me give it to you right now. 555-5555. That was a joke, but you guys are telling people about it. And I'm really enjoying this because I get to interview so many amazing guests today. I'm interviewing someone that I consider a friend, Scott Clary. And the thing that's cool about him is I think some things in life you decide, other things you discover. And so he's had his decisions in life by being really good at marketing, really good in business, and then got into the podcast space and he has one of the top podcasts in America and so many of you watch it already. So I'm going to be able to dig in to his life a little bit and find out even things that he's learned from people who know. So remember, we're talking about the Miracle mentality. So what is a miracle, Tim Story? A miracle is just something extraordinary. So we're going to talk to Scott a little bit about this, things that he's learned from people who think in an extraordinary way and also do and find out about how his life is unfolding. So let's welcome to the podcast D. Scott Clary. Thank you for having me, sir.
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Likewise. Thank you for having me.
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And thank you for letting me use your podcast studio today because I'm in Miami where you now currently reside, and, and so you are letting me use your studio and I appreciate that.
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I appreciate you for, for doing the interview here. You're, you're blessing this studio with a little bit of experience and greatness. And I'm usually on the other side. I'm usually in that chair right there. So I'm excited to do this and.
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Thank you for letting me go without wearing any shoes. I do have socks on though.
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I was just doing it for you. Not many people want to have their, their, their, their socks being recorded on the wide angle camera.
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That's why I'm I'm good. When you get to this stage of life, it's stage. It's a stage.
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I've had requests for hair and makeup. I've had requests to move the cameras, get the different angle, make sure you don't see the double ch. I've had every request in the. In the book. Right. Like, so.
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So that's. That. That is a famous story. And if Barbra Streisand, if you're. If you're watching this, I love you. I think you're great. But Barbra Streisand only liked to be shot from a certain angle. But that is so true. But when I hit about 40 years of age, because I. I am a little bit bougie, I like clothes. I like all that. But when I hit, like 40, Scott, it was weird. I was like, I'm just okay with myself.
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I think you gotta be. I think. I think that. Listen, it's always good to present well, to. To take care of yourself and to take care of how you look and how you feel, for sure. But I think that in the age of media and new media. Yes. Too much. What's the word? Too much pomp and circumstance, too much editing, too much. Too much of not delivering the raw real you. I think it turns people off. So I think that when you edit yourself too much, the way you think, the way you speak, I think that. I think that people do it because they have fear of putting themselves out there, but I think it actually backfires.
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Yes. Okay, so I have these notes on you. And so when I go through these notes, it gets very, very interesting when it says, did you have over 22 million.
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Podcast downloads? And it's probably even more than that now. But when you started the podcast, what was your thinking? I'm going to speak to just a few, or I really think I'm on to something. And someday I'm going to have over 22 million downloads. What was the thought process?
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So there was a few thoughts. The first thought was, at the time when I started the podcast, I didn't know what it was going to turn into, but I did know and I did believe in building media and building media as leverage for whatever you wanted to accomplish in life. I'm a big follower and fan of the Gary Vees of the World of the Naval Ravikant, who speaks about the four types of leverage. And media is one of the types of leverage that is the most powerful, like building true influence and being able to use that influence for good, and being able to use that influence to help you build a business in the future like you've done. Like I see. Again, our mutual friend, Gary V. Launches businesses off of his personal brand every single year. And when I was starting the podcast, I didn't know what I wanted to use it for, but I did know that I wanted to future proof myself and create a competitive advantage for me in the marketplace.
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Yes.
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And building media and building trust was a way to do that, and it still is. And I think it's even more important in the age of AI, where content seems to be AI ified. Being true and being yourself and building trust, but also building community is one of the most unique competitive advantages that businesses have to take advantage of.
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Okay, let's talk about this, because there's so many people that either have podcasts or they want to launch a podcast. And I think that a lot of people are intimidated by this because it's almost like the Boston Marathon. The Boston marathon has over 30,000 runners, and people are all running for different reasons, different motives. In the podcast space, there are millions of podcasters, but literally around the world. So how did you think about, okay, Scott, how am I going to fit in here and who's going to listen and what am I going to say? That's. That's different. So in that crowded space that we have as a. In the podcast of millions of podcasters, what was your mindset going in?
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So a few things prompted me to start a podcast. I'm a believer that anybody who's built something before me is not that special. They're not that unique. They found a way to figure it out. I believe that if I do anything in my life, I'll find a way to figure it out. If I am able to do it for an unfair, extended period of time, if I can do something for 10, 15 plus years, I'll be able to figure it out. So that leads me to the thought of, well, if I'm going to be doing something for 10 to 15 years, I better enjoy it. I better be able to do it for 10 to 15 years without seeing the immediate return or the immediate revenue or whatever the immediate gratification could be.
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And for me, podcasting was that thing. I knew that it would build an audience. I knew that it would build leverage, But I also knew that I enjoyed it. I enjoy conversations. So this was the format of media that I chose to start.
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Yes.
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Now, you asked who was I creating it for? If you want to create content, especially educational content, a really easy way to think through how you should start is Created for the younger. You create it for the person five years ago. You. Five years ago or five years earlier. That is trying to figure out life or trying to figure out a problem with their business. And that's the content you create, and that's how I started this podcast. So when I started this podcast, I was running sales and marketing for a startup in the software space. So I would interview people that were CROs and CEOs and software startups, and I would learn from them. And that was helping younger Scott try and figure out his career path, how to succeed in the business he was building. So that was a very easy way for me to start identifying who my audience was. Now, the best thing about content creation is it's not stagnant, and the content you create shouldn't be stagnant. So as you grow as a person, your audience grows with you.
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Yes.
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And the things that I found interesting in my life at a later stage, as the podcast progresses, as I go through life and I'm trying to figure out how to balance family and work, I'm trying to figure out how to be successful and make money, but at the same time be physically and mentally healthy. These different topics that were important to me, I know they're important to another version of Scott somewhere out there. So I got to bring those topics into my content. That was really how I progressed, and that's how the podcast grew. It was. It was me as the avatar. It was talking to a younger version of me and teaching a younger version of me. Because the one thing that people, I think screw up with content is they think they got to speak to everyone. They think they got to. They have. Their audience is the world. And they want the million followers or the 22 million downloads or the huge Instagram account. You don't need any of that to make more money and be more successful or be more influential than you even know what to do with.
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Yes.
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So find out who you are, find out what you were struggling with five years ago, and build content around that and serve that person. That's really how I started my show.
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But by studying you. I think that one of the things I love about you is I don't think you did it just for monetary reasons or to be the best, but you wanted to add value to people's lives, which you are.
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Thank you.
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You like to do things at a high standard. And even studying your background in marketing and everything that you did back in Canada and Toronto, I think that that plays into it. But then in also studying you and the way that you are interviewing people, I think you have a secret sauce, and I think every single person has a secret sauce, but they don't know how to identify it. Yeah. And they don't properly use it. And let me go there for just a second.
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Yeah.
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So if Bob Dylan plays the harmonica, it sounds different than Stevie Wonder the way he plays the harmonica. They both sound different. They both play the harmonica and it sounds different because they approach the harmonica, the instrument, in a different way, but yet they're still friends, but they, they play that instrument in a different way.
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I think that somehow, some way, and I want to get to it today, is that you're okay, like being you right now. Very much so, yeah. You're, you're, you're not being somebody else. Of these other speakers that are out there, these other podcasters are out there, or even the people that have been late night show TV host or daytime TV show host. I'm seeing a whole different secret sauce that you have. And I want to know where you get that, where you were just okay being yourself.
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Because I couldn't do it for a long enough period of time for it to be successful if I had to put on a mask.
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Okay.
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I hated it. I hate. When I started, I was a version of myself, but I was a watered down version of myself.
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And I just felt like if this is the way that I want to create content, I don't want to do it. Yeah, I want to bring in my other passions. I want to speak about physical mental health. I want to speak about religion, spirituality. I want to speak about making a lot of money and being successful. That's also very important, but not at the expense of all the other things in your life. Yes, I want to bring all that stuff into my content because I'm passionate about it. If I have to water myself down from my content, I should be in another business. And the people that I look like, I look up to, the people that are mentors that don't even know I exist. Right. The people that I study from yourself included. The people that have been doing it for a long enough period of time. There's a point. And you can tell if you go to their YouTube and you go oldest video to newest video, their oldest video, they're just buttoned up, vanilla version of themselves and then go fast forward 2, 3, 4, 5 years. The ones that are successful and the ones that stick with it, whether or not you like them is a mute point. The ones that are successful and they're accomplishing whatever they want to accomplish with their content. Yeah, they are. They are themselves and they are 150% themselves. And I think that's not just listen. That's not just a lesson for content.
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Yeah.
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That's the lesson for living a life that you actually enjoy, that actually fulfills you. If you're just going through life and you are watering yourself down and you're not doing the things you want to do, you're not taking the risks that you want to take, that is a recipe for waking up on your deathbed at 80, 90 years old and looking back and just regretting everything. And we all know every single person who has been successful to any degree, one of their main rules is don't regret anything. Whether or not it's Jeff Bezos with his regret minimization framework or everyone else that just jumps into things that they're not qualified to do and figures it out and builds the plane as they're jumping. Right, Whatever. Learning to fly as they're jump, whatever the saying is.
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Yes.
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Just be yourself, live without regret. And I think that is. That is the path to true happiness and fulfillment.
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So I think it's an interesting thing. So I. I work a lot with actors in life coaching them, and so many of them that are very, very well known, say, Tim, the goal was never the Academy Award and it was never to be a film star. It was. I truly loved the craft. Yeah. And by loving the craft, they ended up becoming these brilliant people. And so, you know, when I look at my notes and I see that on so many charts that you constantly are ranking in the top five or the top eight in your categories of leadership, entrepreneur, even motivation, that your podcast is really one of the top in America. And I obviously know that you're not just going to be American wide, but you're going to be worldwide and continue to help a lot of people. Did that start to blow you away when you started to see these ratings and rankings of how many people were listening to you and watching you and how high you were ranked?
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You know, it's funny. So you're going to appreciate this because of how you've built your career speaking in front of audiences. It doesn't blow me away until I step on stage in front of an audience. And that's when you realize that the impact that you can actually have. And I think that.
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I think this is a lesson for people that don't have large audiences. If you actually think and you post something on Instagram and a thousand people look at it and you're like, oh, Just. Just a thousand people. Go step on stage in front of a thousand people and tell me that's not intimidating for somebody who's never spoken on stage before.
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You're right.
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So I think that it didn't really hit and make sense to me until you start getting recognized or you start jumping on stage and you're like, oh, this is a room of 5,000 people. Yet a million people are listening to me every single month. Like, what the f? Seriously?
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Oh, yeah.
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And I think that the only takeaway is understand that even if you don't have big numbers, you still have big impact.
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Yeah.
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And that's why everyone says, and I believe it's true, like, numbers are vanity metrics to use content for your business. You can have a thousand, five thousand people that are the ideal customer for the product or service that is that you're selling. You don't need a lot of people. And I think people have to sort of reacquaint, or I would say, what's the best way to say this?
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They have to develop a much healthier relationship with social media and influence and audience and what it actually means, and understand if they're gonna put themselves out there, that you don't need the big numbers. Because, again, like, a small crowd can make you more money if that's really what you want to accomplish, than most people know what to do with. And I wanna actually just add one thing onto this too. I speak a lot about money and making money through content. You pointed out to the fact that when I started, I was not building a podcast to make money. And I actually still am not building a podcast to make money. The way I think about content is if you give enough value and you teach enough people and you help enough people, whether or not that's through educational conversations, whether or not, I'm a little bit more niche. And I'm talking about the latest SEO strategy, and I run an agency that does SEO. If you give enough value, you will find a way to make money.
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Yes.
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So the value. You have to lead with value all the time. And then everything else really does figure itself out.
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I love that answer. I think it's a great answer. So let's talk about motives. So I'm going to mention two friends of mine. One is in heaven. Larry King. So Larry King, you know, had his show on CNN forever. And there's a restaurant called Nate and Al's in. In Beverly Hills. And probably for 15 years of my life, I'd go there two times, sometimes three times a week, because I lived Right up the street and I'd roll down and that's where I would life coach people one on one. And Larry King would be there like Monday through Friday, unless he was traveling, maybe he was in New York or something. And we would sit and have these amazing talks about life. He said that one reason that he became, as we know, a really great person who gave interviews was he was curious. So he says, tim, it's not like I'm coming with an agend. He said, so whether I'm interviewing Prince Charles or Michael Jackson, there was no agenda. It was I'm curious. And so I wanted to learn and to know. And the audience went with me. Okay. So then I also look at a friend, Oprah Winfrey, where she is so phenomenal at giving interviews. But also her program was known for influencing people in self help motivation. In fact, her executive producer, Diane Hudson lives in this town and she's one of my best friends. They knew when they were making that choice of we are going towards like self help motivation to expand people's lives. So there's Larry with really no motive of doing something like that, just interviewing people, and then Oprah's team saying, no, purposeful. Yeah, purposeful. We're going, we're going to lift people up. So this is probably a question you've never been asked. So at this point in your podcast, what is your motivation and what is your motive?
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That's a great question. So I think that I really resonate with Larry King's answer about curiosity. So even though I think I have a lane that I try and stay in.
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I still have to be curious about the person that I'm interviewing. Now, the lane that I'm staying in is not exclusively self help personal development, but how self help and personal development can help you unlock all the other areas of your life successfully. So I like to take the mindset of a successful person and I like to show somebody how that mindset is what is required to build a business or to build a relationship or to lose the 20 pounds or whatever it is.
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Yes.
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So you have the, you have the mindset and the sort of the higher level esoteric conversations.
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Yeah.
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And then that bleeds into the very tactical because you can't have one without the other anything that you want to. Let's use building a business because that's a very important topic for a lot of people. People are not so happy right now. They're thinking about. Okay. So we learned during COVID that my job isn't as safe as it is cost of Living is very high. How do I make a little bit extra money? But I don't feel like entrepreneurship is for me. I try and shift the perspective and say, okay, so what if entrepreneurship is for you? What if you want to find a way to make a little bit of extra cash or monetize your skill set? There's a lot of people that come on the show that have done that and built incredible businesses. So you can Google everything that you have to do to build a business. You can Google how to run Facebook ads, you can Google how to hire. You can Google all the tools and whatever.
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But Google's not going to tell you what to do at year three when you're still not making money. Google's not going to tell you how to manage your emotions when you get sued.
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So good.
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Google won't tell you any of that. That's where you have to combine the mindset of a successful person alongside the tactics to get you to wherever you want to be. Why do people quit going to the gym after, you know, January? It's not because they don't know what to do to get to the goal weight or to look the way they want to look. It's because maybe they haven't architected their environment so that they are successful. Maybe they don't have the systems and the processes. Maybe they overloaded on their work schedule so they can't find time for the gym. Maybe they don't have, you know, the Mel Robbins. What is it? If you, if you want to do something, just do it in the first. What is it, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, 10 seconds? And if you don't do it in 5 seconds, then you're much more likely to not do it. So you have to have this. You have to have the exercises, you have to have the form. You have to have the understanding of macronutrients and calories to get to the weight you want to get to. But you also have to have the mindset to be able to do it, to make it a lifestyle and so you can do it for the next five years.
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So it's an interesting thing because you also have this newsletter that is doing so well. So I know a lot about this world of newsletters, media, all of it. And media. Yeah. And because even in the, the world that I come in from, the space I come from, there's a, there's a lot of letter writing and newsletters and things of that nature. But you now have the. What is, what is the number? I have a number that's 320,000 in. In here. But on the list, I mean, so 320,000 people are subscribing to your newsletter, which is just enormous. Thank you. The newsletter is basically for what, what, what's the reason behind that?
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So I put content out everywhere, and I think that my mission is to serve and educate people.
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Yes.
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And again, help people that are at an earlier stage in their life figure out again, the tactics plus the mindset to get to where they want to go. I could just say I want to do a podcast, and if you want to learn from me, you're going to listen to the podcast. But I'm not ignorant. And if I want to reach the most people, I have to hit them on the medium where they want to consume content. So part of the strategy of the podcast, why I started it, is because it's a very easy piece of content that you can repurpose everywhere. So you can take a long form podcast, put it up on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, you can transcribe it, you can turn it into a newsletter, you can clip it, you can put it across, you know, TikTok, Instagram, Reels, YouTube, shorts, all that.
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Yeah.
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So I am not trying to get somebody who likes reading to tune into an hour, hour and a half long podcast. I'm saying I'm gonna take the information that I learned that I'm very privileged. These conversations that I have, I'm very privileged to have these conversations. I'm gonna take that information, I'm gonna put into a newsletter, I'm gonna send it to you on your preferred format, and it's just, it's just strategically expanding the reach. That's really it. And I think that that's not where I would recommend people start. I never recommend people start going everywhere or doing one particular format or medium. I say start with a form or type of content that you actually enjoy making. But then once you have built out that vehicle, you've killed it on Instagram, you've killed it on Twitter, you like doing video, so you kill it on YouTube, then find a way to translate that into all the other types of content.
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So give me one testimonial, just a short story of somebody that's run into you at the airport or somebody that has contacted you through a DM and said why they like the newsletter. Just give me one testimonial.
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I think that the number one piece of feedback that I get is the newsletter that I write and the content that I put out.
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It has to be lived. Like people say that the reason why they like My content is. Because it feels like I've lived through it.
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Yeah.
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So what I mean by that is it's never me taking someone else's story and just saying, this is what Tim experienced. This is the lesson that Tim. That I learned from Tim.
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Yeah.
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And then this is how it applied to my life, and this is how I interpreted it. And I think that this sort of brings us full circle back to being yourself and being authentic and including you in your content. That's the number one piece of feedback I get. I like that you bring your own life into your content and your newsletter. And I even have. You know, my newsletter is on substack, and people can leave, like, little bits of. They can leave, like, a little paragraph as to why they subscribe. That's usually the one thing. This is lived experience.
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I don't have a lot of people around me that can mentor me and teach me. And I feel like wherever I am in the world, I feel like I can get a little bit of lived experience from somebody that has my best intentions in mind from behind my computer. It's a very beautiful thing that people say, and I think that that's what I aspire to give people. I don't want to sound like I'm better than any other content creators. I'm definitely not. But I just think that.
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I think that the reason why you put content out into the world, especially the type of content we put out, it's for somebody who. You have to understand the person who's receiving it. You don't know where they're at in their life or the. Or the influences that they have around them.
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So you have to be careful about what you say and what you tell them that they should do, because you can have real impact on their life.
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Yeah.
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And I think that you just have to be very cognizant of the weight of that influence. And I think that. I like that not enough people are. And I think that when I get those little messages back, it makes it very real, but it also makes me very proud of what I do.
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Yeah. I'm believing that you're enjoying this podcast, the miracle mentality. And so the best way to help other people is to share it with a friend, a family member, or even a colleague. We work hard on getting the right types of guests that will make your life go from the mundane, the messy, the madness into the miracle mentality. Don't forget, your mindset is yours to set. So make sure and share this with someone else, and then tag me.
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Official. That's Tim Story official. Thank you for making this one of the most listened to and watched podcasts out there in the world. And guess what? Get ready for miracles to come your way. I want to step into your mindset because this is a miracle mentality podcast.
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So psychologists talk about the stages of Life. Birth to 20 is stage one, stage two is 20 to 40. Stage three is 40 to 60, then 60 to 80, 80 to 100. And now they are taking it farther because of what's going on. 100 to 120. Okay, so at this stage of your life, so you, you got to figure out what stage you're in. You don't have to say it, but just figure it out. What bothers you at this stage of your life? What grinds against you? What. What irritates you? Because most people are not going to ask you questions like this. I'm a therapist, so I'm. I'm coming at you as a therapist. So what irritates you? Because things are going to irritate you if you're smart.
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And you're smart.
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Very well said.
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And you're smart. So what. What irritates you?
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Okay, so give me a frame. Is it what irritates me about.
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People that would be my consumers of my content or what irritates me in my own life?
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Okay, so now this is now stepping away from just your brand.
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Yes.
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Just about your journey in dealing with people, dealing with human beings. I think that dealing with things like the fact that most people are really not in the moment and you could be talking to them and then they're looking somewhere else. So I have things that irritate me just as a human being. At this stage of your life, what irritates you? Then I'm going to get to the other side of life.
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All right, so at this stage of life, what irritates me the most? I've only started to realize that one of the most powerful ideas that has helped me is agency. Is having control over my own destiny good or bad? Something good happens to me, great. If something bad happens to me, it's also my fault. And there's different ways to talk about this. Yako Willink talks about this extreme ownership. It's a very powerful idea.
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Idea.
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And I think the most frustrating thing is when someone asks for help or advice. And I give a lot of help and advice. And you can even talk to. To Gina. When I go on stage.
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Yeah.
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After I walk off stage, which is when people ask you the real questions, the stuff that's, like, very personal to them. I could spend an hour at a conference just talking to people, trying to strategize all these very different, unique set of circumstances that people are struggling with. And because I love helping. So when somebody asks me a genuine question, I'll pour myself into them. I'll try and think of ideas on the fly. Sometimes it frustrates her, but I'll try and go above and beyond for random people that really, really would, like, help. But then I look at these people, like a year later or two years later, and they're in the same set of circumstances as when they asked me for that piece of advice. Should I quit my job? How do I start my business? I started my business and my relationship is suffering, like all these random things that people deal with. And I realized that, first of all, they either don't like taking accountability for their current set of circumstances, which then doesn't, in my opinion, at least doesn't prompt them to take the action required to get out of their set of circumstances they're not happy with. And I think that the concept of ownership over the good and bad in your life, coupled with extreme action can get most people to where they want to be. But I find that those two concepts, because they are so uncomfortable for most people, they do not actually believe in them, understand them, execute against them, internalize them, whatever it is. I'll say it more tangibly. I've given my exact podcast playbook that I've used to build my show to roughly 50 people that have asked, how do I start a podcast?
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Wow.
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I have all my SOPs. I have every single thing I do for every single show, the tools that I use, even how to hire employees, like how I started, how to source guests, how to write a subject line if you're pitching a guest that gets open, and then an email that gets somebody to say, yes, I want to be on your show. I have all these strategies that I've used out of, say, the 50 plus people. I've had two people that have executed on that strategy, and I think one of them has a podcast that's actually ranked higher than mine right now. So I know the Playbook works, but for some reason, 48, 47 people who have the playbook haven't executed on it, and they don't have podcasts. They never even recorded the first episode. So why is that? I don't know. But that's frustrating and annoying as hell because.
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If somebody gave me a playbook for something, yeah. And I had, like, the secret sauce to achieve the life that I wanted to achieve. And I just said, you know what? Too much work, too busy. But then in a year from now, I went back to them and said, my life still sucks, or I'm not making enough money or my. My business is in shambles. Like, there's such this. It's like. It doesn't make sense to me how people think like that.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying? Yes.
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Can I tell you what I'm loving?
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Yeah.
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Is this emotion that's coming at you annoying? No. Because I. I know you have this emotion, but you don't see it come out very often, but it's in you. And I think this is one thing that's constantly taking you to the top at what you do. I want you to be that way. In fact, I'd like you to be more like that. So I'm going to give you the reason why I think people are doing this. There's a real lack of honor in the world today where this whole idea, biblical idea is even honor your mother and your father. There's such a lack of honor in. In. In that. Or even the grandparents, where it was always about, like, honoring your grandparents. And you would see many times the. The grandparents even living with the family and just. Just to honor. But how about honoring people that have done amazing things? Like, I could go to a young group of young people and I'll say, this guy, Nelson Mandela, he did such an amazing job, you know, but for what he's believed in. He was 25 years incarcerated, and they're looking at me like I don't really even care. And why are you even telling me this story? There's such a lack of honor for.
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People that are valuable, not just for what they have accomplished or how popular they are, but just because they're quality people. So I also think there's a lack of honor for information. Like the fact that you gave these people this information, which was like, here, here's a gold mine. Go create something big. So, like, the lady that taught me life coaching is really like one of the three pioneers of life coaching. Dr. Helen Mendez, black lady from USC. And she started studying life coaching in 1974. It doesn't really start coming out till the 80s.
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She's one of the OGs.
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She's one of the OGS. And she taught me for 30 years. And. And I remember her handing me this big file of notes, and she said, tim, it's going to go from not just therapy, but it's going to go from that into coaching, because therapy is. Is More your past and your present, where coaching is more your present and your future. And she just blew my world open. And the thing that she loved about me is she said, tim, even when you grabbed my manual, you grabbed it like it was like sacred. And you treated it like it was sacred.
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That manual and that lady changed my life, helped get me to 82 countries of the world. So this. The lack of honor of people that you've given your secrets to and they didn't do anything with them.
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I know I would say that to add on to that.
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Yeah.
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There's also a lack of honor with yourself. I think that people as opposed. Because a lot of what we're talking about is taking accountability and responsibility for your own set of circumstances. I don't know when this happened. I didn't see it with my parents or my grandparents.
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Yeah.
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But everybody seems to want to be a victim. I don't get it. I wasn't raised like that. It seems like. And I think in our circle, we don't quite understand it because a lot of people that are successful are not like that. But there's a lot of victim mindset and victim mentality. And it's just not honoring yourself and honoring your own abilities to improve your circumstance and your situation. And I don't understand it. It makes no sense to me. But it is the most frustrating thing in the world. And I'll take it a step further. The content I create that gets the most hate is about taking responsibility for your own life. I put out a post. I knew it was going to be an inflammatory post. I knew it. I said, before you go to therapy, sleep for eight hours, move every day, eat healthy, quit the job you don't like. Quit the toxic relationship. That was the pose. I said, therapy is useful, but you're not going to fix if the rest of your life is broken.
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True.
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You have to fix the rest of your life and then you can use it as a tool.
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Yeah.
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But I think people use it as a crutch to try and escape the reality because they aren't strong enough to actually address the reality. And that post, so much, so much anger, so much hate, so much you're out of touch. I'm like, none of this is rocket science. You should want to fix the rest of your life as opposed to paying a therapist for the next 10 years because you aren't brave enough to leave the job that treats you poorly. Leave the boyfriend or girlfriend or husband or wife that treats you poorly. And I get. Everyone has their own set of circumstances. And their own reality. And maybe you can't quit the job tomorrow because you got a mortgage to pay, but move in the direction in your life that's going to support you being happy, being fulfilled, being successful, whatever that means. And people have a. A really big issue with that idea.
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I personally think that's going to be part of more of the. The future of Scott Clary, of talking about core values. Because there's such a need for that. I mean, if you look at what happened with Stephen Covey years ago and how many people read that book. Yeah. And everything was all about core values, about the habits of highly effective people. There's not enough discussion about core values. That's what you're saying right there. And also respecting yourself enough to not just get by, but take real accountability for what's going on in your life.
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I have no doubt it frustrates the hell out of you, too.
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Yeah. Oh, no doubt. Oh, big time.
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But you can see it. But the thing is, you. I just. I just. I'm new to this game. I'm new to content. I'm new to putting my ideas on the Internet and seeing how people react. You've been doing this for I don't even know how many years.
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Yeah.
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Very long time.
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Long time.
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So do you see when I talk about, like, a shift in how people view accountability and their own personal success and their own personal happiness? Do you see that shift as well?
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And.
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And can you equate it to something like. Is there.
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I have a perfect story. You ready?
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Okay, go.
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Okay. So I was about to speak at 10x and. And Grant's been nice to. I believe I did either six or seven of the 10.
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And a couple young guys come up. One guy knew me and two of them did not. And one of them, one of the young guys. And you know how nice I am. But this kid was cocky. He was yoked up. He was probably like 28, and he was like a chessbounder. And he goes. He goes, who are you? And I go, my name's Tim. He goes, you got a last name? I go, I just go by Tim right now. And he goes, so, like, what do you do? And I said, I'm a humanitarian. And then so one guy that knows me says he's about to speak. So the guy goes, like, I. I never seen you. So what are you going to speak on? And I go, I don't know. Watch me. And then maybe we'll bump into each other later. Okay. So I literally, like, dynamite to 10,000 people, right? Yeah. Just Dynamite the place. Right. So this kid has to deal with me after because I come off the stage and all these people are coming around me during this break.
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And these three kids just bump into me, and the kid literally looks scared.
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And I said to him, that's funny. I said to him, I said, you should have paid attention to me the first time. That. That was my answer.
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But that's good. That's good. That's. That's good.
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That's. That's the inner side, inner city side of me. That's Compton.
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That's good. I know, but listen, listen. You got to shake people up every once in a while. But that. So I'm talking a lot, and. And people may think like, well, you know, Scott, you have to be empathetic. Yeah, I'm probably one of the most empathetic people.
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You are empathetic? Yes.
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You get. So.
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I don't understand how somebody goes through life like that either, because that has never worked out for me. Being an judging people before, you know them. I don't judge anybody.
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Yeah.
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I'm actually disappointed and frustrated that I see something in you that you don't see in you. That's the most frustrating.
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Yes. All right, so how do people get a hold of you? How do people follow you? How do people continue to watch your podcast?
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Well, we have a lot of conversations like this. So if you like this kind of podcast, if you like having these conversations. Podcasts called Success Story.
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Yes.
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You can get it anywhere. You get your podcast, and then all the socials got declary.
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You say that too humbly. Your podcast is one of the best in the world, buddy.
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It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The people that like it are going to find.
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Dude, you're hitting 360.
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Yes, sir.
[42:44]
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You're like. You're like sh otani right now.
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I appreciate that.
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Just go with it.
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Deal? Deal.
[42:50]
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What a privilege to have you on, Scott.
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Thank you for having me.
[42:53]
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All right, so miracle mentality.
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So I do it. I mean, what a great conversation with Scott and how he's thinking, how he's doing, how he's evolving, growing, and building you up. So Scott's vision is to see your vision come to pass. So make sure and follow him, get his newsletter and be one of the hundreds of thousands of people that get it, because it's fantastic. And then keep on watching what we're doing. Be sure to, like, subscribe and continue to tell people, tell a friend, tell many friends about the miracle mentality and life is good. And as I often tell you you may not be what you want to be, but thank God you're not what you used to be. See you next time. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that miracle mentality forward. Visit me@tim story.com that story with an eye on the end. Until next time. Walk by faith, embrace possibility and create your own comeback. Story.

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Miracle Mentality with Tim Storey

Episode 17: Scott Clary—The Truth About Building Real Influence

Date: December 8, 2025
Guest: Scott Clary
Host: Tim Storey

Overview

This episode of Miracle Mentality features Tim Storey in a deep, authentic conversation with Scott Clary, host of the top-ranked “Success Story” podcast. The discussion centers on building genuine influence, the real attitudes behind successful content creation, the power of lived experience, and the importance of authenticity and purpose—not just in business, but as a foundation for personal fulfillment. Clary and Storey share hard-earned insights from their journeys, exploring actionable mindsets and the challenges of modern media, mentorship, and personal growth.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Origin of Scott Clary’s Podcast and Influence

Leverage Through Media:
- Scott began his podcast to build personal and professional leverage rather than chase downloads or immediate returns.
- Quote:
  
  “I did know and I did believe in building media and building media as leverage for whatever you wanted to accomplish in life.” — Scott Clary (04:40)
- He drew inspiration from figures like Gary Vee and Naval Ravikant on the power of media.
Intentionality Over ROI:
- Emphasizes loving the process:
  
  “If I am able to do it for an unfair, extended period of time... I better enjoy it. I better be able to do it for 10 to 15 years without seeing immediate revenue or gratification.” — Scott (06:45)

2. Standing Out in a Crowded Podcast Landscape

Content for the ‘Younger You’:
- Scott advises content creators to make educational content that would have helped their five-year-younger selves.
  
  “Create it for the person five years ago. You. That's the content you create, and that's how I started this podcast.” — Scott (07:39)
Grow With Your Audience:
- As Scott evolved, so did his content, reflecting his personal journey with topics like work-life balance and health.

3. Secret Sauce: Authenticity and Individuality

Owning Uniqueness:
- Tim likens individuality to how Bob Dylan and Stevie Wonder both create differently with the same tool.
- Scott reflects on dropping the mask:
  
  “I couldn’t do it for a long enough period of time for it to be successful if I had to put on a mask... If I have to water myself down from my content, I should be in another business.” — Scott (11:31 & 11:44)
The Evolution of Realness:
- Successful content creators move from buttoned-up to fully authentic over time:
  
  “The ones that are successful and stick with it... they are themselves and they are 150% themselves.” — Scott (12:55)

4. Measuring Impact Beyond Numbers

Meaningful Influence:
- The scale of audience is only felt when standing in front of a live crowd.
  
  “Go step on stage in front of a thousand people and tell me that's not intimidating... you still have big impact.” — Scott (15:12 & 15:54)
Vanity Metrics vs. Value:
- Tim and Scott stress the importance of small, dedicated audiences over chasing follower counts.

5. Motives and Curiosity

Larry King vs. Oprah Model:
- Tim describes Larry King’s curiosity-driven interviewing versus Oprah’s purpose-driven, motivational focus.
Scott’s Approach:
- A blend of curiosity and practical self-help; showing how mindset underpins success in business and life.
  
  “I like to take the mindset of a successful person and show how that mindset is required to build a business, a relationship, or whatever you want.” — Scott (20:09)

6. Tactics, Mindset, and Lived Experience

The Newsletter Strategy:
- Scott emphasizes serving audiences by meeting them where they consume content, expanding from podcasts to the newsletter format (320,000 subscribers).
  
  “I'm gonna take that information, I'm gonna put it into a newsletter, I'm gonna send it to you on your preferred format.” — Scott (23:51)
Lived Experience as Value:
- His audience values advice that’s “lived”—not theoretical.
  
  “The reason why they like my content is because it feels like I've lived through it.” — Scott (25:05) “I feel like I can get a little bit of lived experience from somebody that has my best intentions in mind from behind my computer. It's a very beautiful thing that people say...” — Scott (25:57)

7. Challenges with Influence, Mentorship, and Accountability

Frustration with Inaction:
- Scott’s main irritation is people not taking action despite receiving direct advice:
  
  “I've given my exact podcast playbook… to roughly 50 people... I've had two people that have executed on that strategy.” — Scott (31:51) “That's frustrating and annoying as hell because if somebody gave me a playbook... and I just said, you know what? Too much work, too busy…” — Scott (32:40)
Lack of Honor & Victimhood Culture:
- Tim decries the lack of honor for knowledge, mentorship, and even self-respect:
  
  “There's a real lack of honor in the world today... how about honoring people that have done amazing things?... this whole idea, biblical idea is even honor your mother and your father.” — Tim (34:32)
- Scott extends this to self-honor, seeing a growth in victim mentality and lack of personal accountability:
  
  “Everybody seems to want to be a victim. I don't get it. I wasn't raised like that... there's a lot of victim mindset and victim mentality. And it's just not honoring yourself...” — Scott (36:36)
Tough Love and the Value of Directness:
- They discuss the need to challenge people, even if it means being blunt or tough, to shake up complacency.

8. The Power of Core Values & the Future of Influence

Respecting Yourself and Core Values:
- Tim predicts Scott will help champion a dialogue on core values, a topic not emphasized enough today:
  
  “There’s not enough discussion about core values. That's what you're saying right there. And also respecting yourself enough to not just get by, but take real accountability for what's going on in your life.” — Tim (38:25)

9. Personal Nuggets and Final Thoughts

On Agency:
- Scott’s biggest realization is the importance of agency and extreme ownership:
  
  "Something good happens to me, great. If something bad happens to me, it's also my fault... I think the most frustrating thing is when someone asks for help... and they're in the same set of circumstances as when they asked..." — Scott (29:41–31:52)
On Helping Others:
- Both agree that influence comes with responsibility, and you never know what someone is truly going through, so be careful with your words.
On Success:
- Success, fulfillment, and the “miracle mentality” all stem from choosing to act with intention, accountability, and authenticity.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On being authentic as a creator:

“Just be yourself, live without regret. And I think that is—that is the path to true happiness and fulfillment.”
— Scott Clary (13:37)
On actionable accountability:

“I've given my exact podcast playbook… to roughly 50 people that have asked... Out of, say, the 50 plus people, I've had two people that have executed on that strategy...”
— Scott Clary (31:51)
On value over numbers:

“It didn't really hit and make sense to me until you start getting recognized or you start jumping on stage and you're like, oh, this is a room of 5,000 people. Yet a million people are listening to me every single month. Like, what the f? Seriously?”
— Scott Clary (15:29)
On lived experience:

“It has to be lived... the reason why they like my content is because it feels like I've lived through it.”
— Scott Clary (25:05)
On lack of honor for information and mentors:

“There's such a lack of honor for information. Like the fact that you gave these people this information, which was like, here, here's a gold mine. Go create something big.”
— Tim Storey (34:32)

Timestamps for Key Segments

02:08 | Scott joins; studio banter, authenticity about being oneself
04:18 | Scott’s motivation for starting a podcast and media as leverage
06:45 | How to pick your podcast lane and audience (“create for younger you”)
10:23 | Authenticity, “secret sauce,” and not putting on a persona
13:44 | Tim on fulfillment in acting; Scott on audience impact and the reality of influence
19:25 | Motives for interviewing: Larry King’s curiosity vs. Oprah’s purpose, Scott’s own blend
22:12 | The strategy and vision behind Scott’s newsletter
25:05 | Audience feedback: lived experience, authenticity, and responsibility of influence
29:41 | Scott and Tim on accountability, frustration with people not taking action
34:32 | Tim on the lack of honor in the modern age toward mentors, information, and self
36:36 | Scott on the rise of victim mentality and self-responsibility
39:42 | Tim’s story about being underestimated and the importance of respect
42:19 | Where to find Scott Clary and his content

Flow and Tone

The episode is candid, motivational, and at times, direct—mirroring the “miracle mentality’s” core message: stop settling and start living boldly. Both Storey and Clary balance tough love with practical advice and honest, lived wisdom. The conversation is lively, engaging, and peppered with storytelling and gentle ribbing—fitting for two accomplished communicators comfortable in their own skin.

For Further Engagement

Scott Clary:
- Podcast: [Success Story] (Available everywhere podcasts are found)
- Newsletter: Substack (Over 320,000 subscribers)
- Socials: @scottdclary
Tim Storey:
- Website: timstorey.com
- Podcast: Miracle Mentality (Subscribe for future episodes)

Takeaway:
Real influence is built through lived experience, relentless authenticity, service, and honoring both the knowledge you gain and the people you share it with. The “miracle mentality” means not just dreaming big—but taking ruthless ownership, acting intentionally, and striving to help others do the same.

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Hello, my name is Tim Storey. Welcome to Miracle Mentality.
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Remember rooftops, drawing spaceships on the ground.
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It's for the dreamers, the doers, the believers in something greater. In each episode, I'll invite you to rise above the mundane, to push past the messy and learn to live boldly in the miraculous. Every episode will have practical wisdom, spiritual insight, and my guests will explore what it takes to activate your miracle mindset. Remember to subscribe, follow, and light.
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Welcome to the Miracle Mentality. This podcast is working. You guys are watching, you're liking, you're subscribing, you're texting me. If you don't have my number, let me give it to you right now. 555-5555. That was a joke, but you guys are telling people about it. And I'm really enjoying this because I get to interview so many amazing guests today. I'm interviewing someone that I consider a friend, Scott Clary. And the thing that's cool about him is I think some things in life you decide, other things you discover. And so he's had his decisions in life by being really good at marketing, really good in business, and then got into the podcast space and he has one of the top podcasts in America and so many of you watch it already. So I'm going to be able to dig in to his life a little bit and find out even things that he's learned from people who know. So remember, we're talking about the Miracle mentality. So what is a miracle, Tim Story? A miracle is just something extraordinary. So we're going to talk to Scott a little bit about this, things that he's learned from people who think in an extraordinary way and also do and find out about how his life is unfolding. So let's welcome to the podcast D. Scott Clary. Thank you for having me, sir.
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Likewise. Thank you for having me.
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And thank you for letting me use your podcast studio today because I'm in Miami where you now currently reside, and, and so you are letting me use your studio and I appreciate that.
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I appreciate you for, for doing the interview here. You're, you're blessing this studio with a little bit of experience and greatness. And I'm usually on the other side. I'm usually in that chair right there. So I'm excited to do this and.
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Thank you for letting me go without wearing any shoes. I do have socks on though.
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I was just doing it for you. Not many people want to have their, their, their, their socks being recorded on the wide angle camera.
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That's why I'm I'm good. When you get to this stage of life, it's stage. It's a stage.
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I've had requests for hair and makeup. I've had requests to move the cameras, get the different angle, make sure you don't see the double ch. I've had every request in the. In the book. Right. Like, so.
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So that's. That. That is a famous story. And if Barbra Streisand, if you're. If you're watching this, I love you. I think you're great. But Barbra Streisand only liked to be shot from a certain angle. But that is so true. But when I hit about 40 years of age, because I. I am a little bit bougie, I like clothes. I like all that. But when I hit, like 40, Scott, it was weird. I was like, I'm just okay with myself.
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I think you gotta be. I think. I think that. Listen, it's always good to present well, to. To take care of yourself and to take care of how you look and how you feel, for sure. But I think that in the age of media and new media. Yes. Too much. What's the word? Too much pomp and circumstance, too much editing, too much. Too much of not delivering the raw real you. I think it turns people off. So I think that when you edit yourself too much, the way you think, the way you speak, I think that. I think that people do it because they have fear of putting themselves out there, but I think it actually backfires.
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Yes. Okay, so I have these notes on you. And so when I go through these notes, it gets very, very interesting when it says, did you have over 22 million.
[04:19]
Podcast downloads? And it's probably even more than that now. But when you started the podcast, what was your thinking? I'm going to speak to just a few, or I really think I'm on to something. And someday I'm going to have over 22 million downloads. What was the thought process?
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So there was a few thoughts. The first thought was, at the time when I started the podcast, I didn't know what it was going to turn into, but I did know and I did believe in building media and building media as leverage for whatever you wanted to accomplish in life. I'm a big follower and fan of the Gary Vees of the World of the Naval Ravikant, who speaks about the four types of leverage. And media is one of the types of leverage that is the most powerful, like building true influence and being able to use that influence for good, and being able to use that influence to help you build a business in the future like you've done. Like I see. Again, our mutual friend, Gary V. Launches businesses off of his personal brand every single year. And when I was starting the podcast, I didn't know what I wanted to use it for, but I did know that I wanted to future proof myself and create a competitive advantage for me in the marketplace.
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Yes.
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And building media and building trust was a way to do that, and it still is. And I think it's even more important in the age of AI, where content seems to be AI ified. Being true and being yourself and building trust, but also building community is one of the most unique competitive advantages that businesses have to take advantage of.
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Okay, let's talk about this, because there's so many people that either have podcasts or they want to launch a podcast. And I think that a lot of people are intimidated by this because it's almost like the Boston Marathon. The Boston marathon has over 30,000 runners, and people are all running for different reasons, different motives. In the podcast space, there are millions of podcasters, but literally around the world. So how did you think about, okay, Scott, how am I going to fit in here and who's going to listen and what am I going to say? That's. That's different. So in that crowded space that we have as a. In the podcast of millions of podcasters, what was your mindset going in?
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So a few things prompted me to start a podcast. I'm a believer that anybody who's built something before me is not that special. They're not that unique. They found a way to figure it out. I believe that if I do anything in my life, I'll find a way to figure it out. If I am able to do it for an unfair, extended period of time, if I can do something for 10, 15 plus years, I'll be able to figure it out. So that leads me to the thought of, well, if I'm going to be doing something for 10 to 15 years, I better enjoy it. I better be able to do it for 10 to 15 years without seeing the immediate return or the immediate revenue or whatever the immediate gratification could be.
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And for me, podcasting was that thing. I knew that it would build an audience. I knew that it would build leverage, But I also knew that I enjoyed it. I enjoy conversations. So this was the format of media that I chose to start.
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Yes.
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Now, you asked who was I creating it for? If you want to create content, especially educational content, a really easy way to think through how you should start is Created for the younger. You create it for the person five years ago. You. Five years ago or five years earlier. That is trying to figure out life or trying to figure out a problem with their business. And that's the content you create, and that's how I started this podcast. So when I started this podcast, I was running sales and marketing for a startup in the software space. So I would interview people that were CROs and CEOs and software startups, and I would learn from them. And that was helping younger Scott try and figure out his career path, how to succeed in the business he was building. So that was a very easy way for me to start identifying who my audience was. Now, the best thing about content creation is it's not stagnant, and the content you create shouldn't be stagnant. So as you grow as a person, your audience grows with you.
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Yes.
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And the things that I found interesting in my life at a later stage, as the podcast progresses, as I go through life and I'm trying to figure out how to balance family and work, I'm trying to figure out how to be successful and make money, but at the same time be physically and mentally healthy. These different topics that were important to me, I know they're important to another version of Scott somewhere out there. So I got to bring those topics into my content. That was really how I progressed, and that's how the podcast grew. It was. It was me as the avatar. It was talking to a younger version of me and teaching a younger version of me. Because the one thing that people, I think screw up with content is they think they got to speak to everyone. They think they got to. They have. Their audience is the world. And they want the million followers or the 22 million downloads or the huge Instagram account. You don't need any of that to make more money and be more successful or be more influential than you even know what to do with.
[09:27]
A
Yes.
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B
So find out who you are, find out what you were struggling with five years ago, and build content around that and serve that person. That's really how I started my show.
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A
But by studying you. I think that one of the things I love about you is I don't think you did it just for monetary reasons or to be the best, but you wanted to add value to people's lives, which you are.
[09:55]
B
Thank you.
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A
You like to do things at a high standard. And even studying your background in marketing and everything that you did back in Canada and Toronto, I think that that plays into it. But then in also studying you and the way that you are interviewing people, I think you have a secret sauce, and I think every single person has a secret sauce, but they don't know how to identify it. Yeah. And they don't properly use it. And let me go there for just a second.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So if Bob Dylan plays the harmonica, it sounds different than Stevie Wonder the way he plays the harmonica. They both sound different. They both play the harmonica and it sounds different because they approach the harmonica, the instrument, in a different way, but yet they're still friends, but they, they play that instrument in a different way.
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I think that somehow, some way, and I want to get to it today, is that you're okay, like being you right now. Very much so, yeah. You're, you're, you're not being somebody else. Of these other speakers that are out there, these other podcasters are out there, or even the people that have been late night show TV host or daytime TV show host. I'm seeing a whole different secret sauce that you have. And I want to know where you get that, where you were just okay being yourself.
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B
Because I couldn't do it for a long enough period of time for it to be successful if I had to put on a mask.
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A
Okay.
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B
I hated it. I hate. When I started, I was a version of myself, but I was a watered down version of myself.
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And I just felt like if this is the way that I want to create content, I don't want to do it. Yeah, I want to bring in my other passions. I want to speak about physical mental health. I want to speak about religion, spirituality. I want to speak about making a lot of money and being successful. That's also very important, but not at the expense of all the other things in your life. Yes, I want to bring all that stuff into my content because I'm passionate about it. If I have to water myself down from my content, I should be in another business. And the people that I look like, I look up to, the people that are mentors that don't even know I exist. Right. The people that I study from yourself included. The people that have been doing it for a long enough period of time. There's a point. And you can tell if you go to their YouTube and you go oldest video to newest video, their oldest video, they're just buttoned up, vanilla version of themselves and then go fast forward 2, 3, 4, 5 years. The ones that are successful and the ones that stick with it, whether or not you like them is a mute point. The ones that are successful and they're accomplishing whatever they want to accomplish with their content. Yeah, they are. They are themselves and they are 150% themselves. And I think that's not just listen. That's not just a lesson for content.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That's the lesson for living a life that you actually enjoy, that actually fulfills you. If you're just going through life and you are watering yourself down and you're not doing the things you want to do, you're not taking the risks that you want to take, that is a recipe for waking up on your deathbed at 80, 90 years old and looking back and just regretting everything. And we all know every single person who has been successful to any degree, one of their main rules is don't regret anything. Whether or not it's Jeff Bezos with his regret minimization framework or everyone else that just jumps into things that they're not qualified to do and figures it out and builds the plane as they're jumping. Right, Whatever. Learning to fly as they're jump, whatever the saying is.
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A
Yes.
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B
Just be yourself, live without regret. And I think that is. That is the path to true happiness and fulfillment.
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A
So I think it's an interesting thing. So I. I work a lot with actors in life coaching them, and so many of them that are very, very well known, say, Tim, the goal was never the Academy Award and it was never to be a film star. It was. I truly loved the craft. Yeah. And by loving the craft, they ended up becoming these brilliant people. And so, you know, when I look at my notes and I see that on so many charts that you constantly are ranking in the top five or the top eight in your categories of leadership, entrepreneur, even motivation, that your podcast is really one of the top in America. And I obviously know that you're not just going to be American wide, but you're going to be worldwide and continue to help a lot of people. Did that start to blow you away when you started to see these ratings and rankings of how many people were listening to you and watching you and how high you were ranked?
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B
You know, it's funny. So you're going to appreciate this because of how you've built your career speaking in front of audiences. It doesn't blow me away until I step on stage in front of an audience. And that's when you realize that the impact that you can actually have. And I think that.
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I think this is a lesson for people that don't have large audiences. If you actually think and you post something on Instagram and a thousand people look at it and you're like, oh, Just. Just a thousand people. Go step on stage in front of a thousand people and tell me that's not intimidating for somebody who's never spoken on stage before.
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A
You're right.
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B
So I think that it didn't really hit and make sense to me until you start getting recognized or you start jumping on stage and you're like, oh, this is a room of 5,000 people. Yet a million people are listening to me every single month. Like, what the f? Seriously?
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A
Oh, yeah.
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B
And I think that the only takeaway is understand that even if you don't have big numbers, you still have big impact.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that's why everyone says, and I believe it's true, like, numbers are vanity metrics to use content for your business. You can have a thousand, five thousand people that are the ideal customer for the product or service that is that you're selling. You don't need a lot of people. And I think people have to sort of reacquaint, or I would say, what's the best way to say this?
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They have to develop a much healthier relationship with social media and influence and audience and what it actually means, and understand if they're gonna put themselves out there, that you don't need the big numbers. Because, again, like, a small crowd can make you more money if that's really what you want to accomplish, than most people know what to do with. And I wanna actually just add one thing onto this too. I speak a lot about money and making money through content. You pointed out to the fact that when I started, I was not building a podcast to make money. And I actually still am not building a podcast to make money. The way I think about content is if you give enough value and you teach enough people and you help enough people, whether or not that's through educational conversations, whether or not, I'm a little bit more niche. And I'm talking about the latest SEO strategy, and I run an agency that does SEO. If you give enough value, you will find a way to make money.
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A
Yes.
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B
So the value. You have to lead with value all the time. And then everything else really does figure itself out.
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A
I love that answer. I think it's a great answer. So let's talk about motives. So I'm going to mention two friends of mine. One is in heaven. Larry King. So Larry King, you know, had his show on CNN forever. And there's a restaurant called Nate and Al's in. In Beverly Hills. And probably for 15 years of my life, I'd go there two times, sometimes three times a week, because I lived Right up the street and I'd roll down and that's where I would life coach people one on one. And Larry King would be there like Monday through Friday, unless he was traveling, maybe he was in New York or something. And we would sit and have these amazing talks about life. He said that one reason that he became, as we know, a really great person who gave interviews was he was curious. So he says, tim, it's not like I'm coming with an agend. He said, so whether I'm interviewing Prince Charles or Michael Jackson, there was no agenda. It was I'm curious. And so I wanted to learn and to know. And the audience went with me. Okay. So then I also look at a friend, Oprah Winfrey, where she is so phenomenal at giving interviews. But also her program was known for influencing people in self help motivation. In fact, her executive producer, Diane Hudson lives in this town and she's one of my best friends. They knew when they were making that choice of we are going towards like self help motivation to expand people's lives. So there's Larry with really no motive of doing something like that, just interviewing people, and then Oprah's team saying, no, purposeful. Yeah, purposeful. We're going, we're going to lift people up. So this is probably a question you've never been asked. So at this point in your podcast, what is your motivation and what is your motive?
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B
That's a great question. So I think that I really resonate with Larry King's answer about curiosity. So even though I think I have a lane that I try and stay in.
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I still have to be curious about the person that I'm interviewing. Now, the lane that I'm staying in is not exclusively self help personal development, but how self help and personal development can help you unlock all the other areas of your life successfully. So I like to take the mindset of a successful person and I like to show somebody how that mindset is what is required to build a business or to build a relationship or to lose the 20 pounds or whatever it is.
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A
Yes.
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B
So you have the, you have the mindset and the sort of the higher level esoteric conversations.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then that bleeds into the very tactical because you can't have one without the other anything that you want to. Let's use building a business because that's a very important topic for a lot of people. People are not so happy right now. They're thinking about. Okay. So we learned during COVID that my job isn't as safe as it is cost of Living is very high. How do I make a little bit extra money? But I don't feel like entrepreneurship is for me. I try and shift the perspective and say, okay, so what if entrepreneurship is for you? What if you want to find a way to make a little bit of extra cash or monetize your skill set? There's a lot of people that come on the show that have done that and built incredible businesses. So you can Google everything that you have to do to build a business. You can Google how to run Facebook ads, you can Google how to hire. You can Google all the tools and whatever.
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But Google's not going to tell you what to do at year three when you're still not making money. Google's not going to tell you how to manage your emotions when you get sued.
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A
So good.
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B
Google won't tell you any of that. That's where you have to combine the mindset of a successful person alongside the tactics to get you to wherever you want to be. Why do people quit going to the gym after, you know, January? It's not because they don't know what to do to get to the goal weight or to look the way they want to look. It's because maybe they haven't architected their environment so that they are successful. Maybe they don't have the systems and the processes. Maybe they overloaded on their work schedule so they can't find time for the gym. Maybe they don't have, you know, the Mel Robbins. What is it? If you, if you want to do something, just do it in the first. What is it, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, 10 seconds? And if you don't do it in 5 seconds, then you're much more likely to not do it. So you have to have this. You have to have the exercises, you have to have the form. You have to have the understanding of macronutrients and calories to get to the weight you want to get to. But you also have to have the mindset to be able to do it, to make it a lifestyle and so you can do it for the next five years.
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A
So it's an interesting thing because you also have this newsletter that is doing so well. So I know a lot about this world of newsletters, media, all of it. And media. Yeah. And because even in the, the world that I come in from, the space I come from, there's a, there's a lot of letter writing and newsletters and things of that nature. But you now have the. What is, what is the number? I have a number that's 320,000 in. In here. But on the list, I mean, so 320,000 people are subscribing to your newsletter, which is just enormous. Thank you. The newsletter is basically for what, what, what's the reason behind that?
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B
So I put content out everywhere, and I think that my mission is to serve and educate people.
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A
Yes.
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B
And again, help people that are at an earlier stage in their life figure out again, the tactics plus the mindset to get to where they want to go. I could just say I want to do a podcast, and if you want to learn from me, you're going to listen to the podcast. But I'm not ignorant. And if I want to reach the most people, I have to hit them on the medium where they want to consume content. So part of the strategy of the podcast, why I started it, is because it's a very easy piece of content that you can repurpose everywhere. So you can take a long form podcast, put it up on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, you can transcribe it, you can turn it into a newsletter, you can clip it, you can put it across, you know, TikTok, Instagram, Reels, YouTube, shorts, all that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I am not trying to get somebody who likes reading to tune into an hour, hour and a half long podcast. I'm saying I'm gonna take the information that I learned that I'm very privileged. These conversations that I have, I'm very privileged to have these conversations. I'm gonna take that information, I'm gonna put into a newsletter, I'm gonna send it to you on your preferred format, and it's just, it's just strategically expanding the reach. That's really it. And I think that that's not where I would recommend people start. I never recommend people start going everywhere or doing one particular format or medium. I say start with a form or type of content that you actually enjoy making. But then once you have built out that vehicle, you've killed it on Instagram, you've killed it on Twitter, you like doing video, so you kill it on YouTube, then find a way to translate that into all the other types of content.
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A
So give me one testimonial, just a short story of somebody that's run into you at the airport or somebody that has contacted you through a DM and said why they like the newsletter. Just give me one testimonial.
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B
I think that the number one piece of feedback that I get is the newsletter that I write and the content that I put out.
[25:05]
It has to be lived. Like people say that the reason why they like My content is. Because it feels like I've lived through it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So what I mean by that is it's never me taking someone else's story and just saying, this is what Tim experienced. This is the lesson that Tim. That I learned from Tim.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then this is how it applied to my life, and this is how I interpreted it. And I think that this sort of brings us full circle back to being yourself and being authentic and including you in your content. That's the number one piece of feedback I get. I like that you bring your own life into your content and your newsletter. And I even have. You know, my newsletter is on substack, and people can leave, like, little bits of. They can leave, like, a little paragraph as to why they subscribe. That's usually the one thing. This is lived experience.
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I don't have a lot of people around me that can mentor me and teach me. And I feel like wherever I am in the world, I feel like I can get a little bit of lived experience from somebody that has my best intentions in mind from behind my computer. It's a very beautiful thing that people say, and I think that that's what I aspire to give people. I don't want to sound like I'm better than any other content creators. I'm definitely not. But I just think that.
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I think that the reason why you put content out into the world, especially the type of content we put out, it's for somebody who. You have to understand the person who's receiving it. You don't know where they're at in their life or the. Or the influences that they have around them.
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So you have to be careful about what you say and what you tell them that they should do, because you can have real impact on their life.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I think that you just have to be very cognizant of the weight of that influence. And I think that. I like that not enough people are. And I think that when I get those little messages back, it makes it very real, but it also makes me very proud of what I do.
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A
Yeah. I'm believing that you're enjoying this podcast, the miracle mentality. And so the best way to help other people is to share it with a friend, a family member, or even a colleague. We work hard on getting the right types of guests that will make your life go from the mundane, the messy, the madness into the miracle mentality. Don't forget, your mindset is yours to set. So make sure and share this with someone else, and then tag me.
[27:37]
Official. That's Tim Story official. Thank you for making this one of the most listened to and watched podcasts out there in the world. And guess what? Get ready for miracles to come your way. I want to step into your mindset because this is a miracle mentality podcast.
[27:58]
So psychologists talk about the stages of Life. Birth to 20 is stage one, stage two is 20 to 40. Stage three is 40 to 60, then 60 to 80, 80 to 100. And now they are taking it farther because of what's going on. 100 to 120. Okay, so at this stage of your life, so you, you got to figure out what stage you're in. You don't have to say it, but just figure it out. What bothers you at this stage of your life? What grinds against you? What. What irritates you? Because most people are not going to ask you questions like this. I'm a therapist, so I'm. I'm coming at you as a therapist. So what irritates you? Because things are going to irritate you if you're smart.
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And you're smart.
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B
Very well said.
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A
And you're smart. So what. What irritates you?
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B
Okay, so give me a frame. Is it what irritates me about.
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People that would be my consumers of my content or what irritates me in my own life?
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A
Okay, so now this is now stepping away from just your brand.
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B
Yes.
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A
Just about your journey in dealing with people, dealing with human beings. I think that dealing with things like the fact that most people are really not in the moment and you could be talking to them and then they're looking somewhere else. So I have things that irritate me just as a human being. At this stage of your life, what irritates you? Then I'm going to get to the other side of life.
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B
All right, so at this stage of life, what irritates me the most? I've only started to realize that one of the most powerful ideas that has helped me is agency. Is having control over my own destiny good or bad? Something good happens to me, great. If something bad happens to me, it's also my fault. And there's different ways to talk about this. Yako Willink talks about this extreme ownership. It's a very powerful idea.
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A
Idea.
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B
And I think the most frustrating thing is when someone asks for help or advice. And I give a lot of help and advice. And you can even talk to. To Gina. When I go on stage.
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A
Yeah.
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B
After I walk off stage, which is when people ask you the real questions, the stuff that's, like, very personal to them. I could spend an hour at a conference just talking to people, trying to strategize all these very different, unique set of circumstances that people are struggling with. And because I love helping. So when somebody asks me a genuine question, I'll pour myself into them. I'll try and think of ideas on the fly. Sometimes it frustrates her, but I'll try and go above and beyond for random people that really, really would, like, help. But then I look at these people, like a year later or two years later, and they're in the same set of circumstances as when they asked me for that piece of advice. Should I quit my job? How do I start my business? I started my business and my relationship is suffering, like all these random things that people deal with. And I realized that, first of all, they either don't like taking accountability for their current set of circumstances, which then doesn't, in my opinion, at least doesn't prompt them to take the action required to get out of their set of circumstances they're not happy with. And I think that the concept of ownership over the good and bad in your life, coupled with extreme action can get most people to where they want to be. But I find that those two concepts, because they are so uncomfortable for most people, they do not actually believe in them, understand them, execute against them, internalize them, whatever it is. I'll say it more tangibly. I've given my exact podcast playbook that I've used to build my show to roughly 50 people that have asked, how do I start a podcast?
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A
Wow.
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B
I have all my SOPs. I have every single thing I do for every single show, the tools that I use, even how to hire employees, like how I started, how to source guests, how to write a subject line if you're pitching a guest that gets open, and then an email that gets somebody to say, yes, I want to be on your show. I have all these strategies that I've used out of, say, the 50 plus people. I've had two people that have executed on that strategy, and I think one of them has a podcast that's actually ranked higher than mine right now. So I know the Playbook works, but for some reason, 48, 47 people who have the playbook haven't executed on it, and they don't have podcasts. They never even recorded the first episode. So why is that? I don't know. But that's frustrating and annoying as hell because.
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If somebody gave me a playbook for something, yeah. And I had, like, the secret sauce to achieve the life that I wanted to achieve. And I just said, you know what? Too much work, too busy. But then in a year from now, I went back to them and said, my life still sucks, or I'm not making enough money or my. My business is in shambles. Like, there's such this. It's like. It doesn't make sense to me how people think like that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know what I'm saying? Yes.
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A
Can I tell you what I'm loving?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Is this emotion that's coming at you annoying? No. Because I. I know you have this emotion, but you don't see it come out very often, but it's in you. And I think this is one thing that's constantly taking you to the top at what you do. I want you to be that way. In fact, I'd like you to be more like that. So I'm going to give you the reason why I think people are doing this. There's a real lack of honor in the world today where this whole idea, biblical idea is even honor your mother and your father. There's such a lack of honor in. In. In that. Or even the grandparents, where it was always about, like, honoring your grandparents. And you would see many times the. The grandparents even living with the family and just. Just to honor. But how about honoring people that have done amazing things? Like, I could go to a young group of young people and I'll say, this guy, Nelson Mandela, he did such an amazing job, you know, but for what he's believed in. He was 25 years incarcerated, and they're looking at me like I don't really even care. And why are you even telling me this story? There's such a lack of honor for.
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People that are valuable, not just for what they have accomplished or how popular they are, but just because they're quality people. So I also think there's a lack of honor for information. Like the fact that you gave these people this information, which was like, here, here's a gold mine. Go create something big. So, like, the lady that taught me life coaching is really like one of the three pioneers of life coaching. Dr. Helen Mendez, black lady from USC. And she started studying life coaching in 1974. It doesn't really start coming out till the 80s.
[35:18]
B
She's one of the OGs.
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A
She's one of the OGS. And she taught me for 30 years. And. And I remember her handing me this big file of notes, and she said, tim, it's going to go from not just therapy, but it's going to go from that into coaching, because therapy is. Is More your past and your present, where coaching is more your present and your future. And she just blew my world open. And the thing that she loved about me is she said, tim, even when you grabbed my manual, you grabbed it like it was like sacred. And you treated it like it was sacred.
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That manual and that lady changed my life, helped get me to 82 countries of the world. So this. The lack of honor of people that you've given your secrets to and they didn't do anything with them.
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B
I know I would say that to add on to that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
There's also a lack of honor with yourself. I think that people as opposed. Because a lot of what we're talking about is taking accountability and responsibility for your own set of circumstances. I don't know when this happened. I didn't see it with my parents or my grandparents.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But everybody seems to want to be a victim. I don't get it. I wasn't raised like that. It seems like. And I think in our circle, we don't quite understand it because a lot of people that are successful are not like that. But there's a lot of victim mindset and victim mentality. And it's just not honoring yourself and honoring your own abilities to improve your circumstance and your situation. And I don't understand it. It makes no sense to me. But it is the most frustrating thing in the world. And I'll take it a step further. The content I create that gets the most hate is about taking responsibility for your own life. I put out a post. I knew it was going to be an inflammatory post. I knew it. I said, before you go to therapy, sleep for eight hours, move every day, eat healthy, quit the job you don't like. Quit the toxic relationship. That was the pose. I said, therapy is useful, but you're not going to fix if the rest of your life is broken.
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A
True.
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B
You have to fix the rest of your life and then you can use it as a tool.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But I think people use it as a crutch to try and escape the reality because they aren't strong enough to actually address the reality. And that post, so much, so much anger, so much hate, so much you're out of touch. I'm like, none of this is rocket science. You should want to fix the rest of your life as opposed to paying a therapist for the next 10 years because you aren't brave enough to leave the job that treats you poorly. Leave the boyfriend or girlfriend or husband or wife that treats you poorly. And I get. Everyone has their own set of circumstances. And their own reality. And maybe you can't quit the job tomorrow because you got a mortgage to pay, but move in the direction in your life that's going to support you being happy, being fulfilled, being successful, whatever that means. And people have a. A really big issue with that idea.
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A
I personally think that's going to be part of more of the. The future of Scott Clary, of talking about core values. Because there's such a need for that. I mean, if you look at what happened with Stephen Covey years ago and how many people read that book. Yeah. And everything was all about core values, about the habits of highly effective people. There's not enough discussion about core values. That's what you're saying right there. And also respecting yourself enough to not just get by, but take real accountability for what's going on in your life.
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B
I have no doubt it frustrates the hell out of you, too.
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A
Yeah. Oh, no doubt. Oh, big time.
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B
But you can see it. But the thing is, you. I just. I just. I'm new to this game. I'm new to content. I'm new to putting my ideas on the Internet and seeing how people react. You've been doing this for I don't even know how many years.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Very long time.
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A
Long time.
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B
So do you see when I talk about, like, a shift in how people view accountability and their own personal success and their own personal happiness? Do you see that shift as well?
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A
And.
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B
And can you equate it to something like. Is there.
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A
I have a perfect story. You ready?
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B
Okay, go.
[39:43]
A
Okay. So I was about to speak at 10x and. And Grant's been nice to. I believe I did either six or seven of the 10.
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And a couple young guys come up. One guy knew me and two of them did not. And one of them, one of the young guys. And you know how nice I am. But this kid was cocky. He was yoked up. He was probably like 28, and he was like a chessbounder. And he goes. He goes, who are you? And I go, my name's Tim. He goes, you got a last name? I go, I just go by Tim right now. And he goes, so, like, what do you do? And I said, I'm a humanitarian. And then so one guy that knows me says he's about to speak. So the guy goes, like, I. I never seen you. So what are you going to speak on? And I go, I don't know. Watch me. And then maybe we'll bump into each other later. Okay. So I literally, like, dynamite to 10,000 people, right? Yeah. Just Dynamite the place. Right. So this kid has to deal with me after because I come off the stage and all these people are coming around me during this break.
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And these three kids just bump into me, and the kid literally looks scared.
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And I said to him, that's funny. I said to him, I said, you should have paid attention to me the first time. That. That was my answer.
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B
But that's good. That's good. That's. That's good.
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A
That's. That's the inner side, inner city side of me. That's Compton.
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B
That's good. I know, but listen, listen. You got to shake people up every once in a while. But that. So I'm talking a lot, and. And people may think like, well, you know, Scott, you have to be empathetic. Yeah, I'm probably one of the most empathetic people.
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A
You are empathetic? Yes.
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B
You get. So.
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I don't understand how somebody goes through life like that either, because that has never worked out for me. Being an judging people before, you know them. I don't judge anybody.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I'm actually disappointed and frustrated that I see something in you that you don't see in you. That's the most frustrating.
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A
Yes. All right, so how do people get a hold of you? How do people follow you? How do people continue to watch your podcast?
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B
Well, we have a lot of conversations like this. So if you like this kind of podcast, if you like having these conversations. Podcasts called Success Story.
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A
Yes.
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B
You can get it anywhere. You get your podcast, and then all the socials got declary.
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A
You say that too humbly. Your podcast is one of the best in the world, buddy.
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B
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The people that like it are going to find.
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A
Dude, you're hitting 360.
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B
Yes, sir.
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A
You're like. You're like sh otani right now.
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B
I appreciate that.
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A
Just go with it.
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B
Deal? Deal.
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A
What a privilege to have you on, Scott.
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B
Thank you for having me.
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A
All right, so miracle mentality.
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So I do it. I mean, what a great conversation with Scott and how he's thinking, how he's doing, how he's evolving, growing, and building you up. So Scott's vision is to see your vision come to pass. So make sure and follow him, get his newsletter and be one of the hundreds of thousands of people that get it, because it's fantastic. And then keep on watching what we're doing. Be sure to, like, subscribe and continue to tell people, tell a friend, tell many friends about the miracle mentality and life is good. And as I often tell you you may not be what you want to be, but thank God you're not what you used to be. See you next time. Thank you for sharing space with me on this episode of Miracle Mentality with Tim Story. If today sparked your courage or helped you understand why you're created for success, I invite you to carry that miracle mentality forward. Visit me@tim story.com that story with an eye on the end. Until next time. Walk by faith, embrace possibility and create your own comeback. Story.