In this episode of the Modern Arizona Podcast, attorney Billie Tarascio sits down with Lisa Sander, nurse, life coach, and podcast host, to talk about what really happens when a marriage ends in midlife. Lisa shares her own story of leaving a 23-year marriage, how her faith carried her through, and why divorce doesn't have to mean failure. From gender dynamics and loneliness to downsizing and finding yourself again after 50, this conversation is honest, warm, and packed with hard-won perspective.

Lisa Sander is a Registered Nurse of 26 years and the CEO of Our Healer, Our Protector LLC, where she coaches women between 40 and 55 who feel stuck and are ready to figure out what comes next. Alongside her partner Ryan, a retired Lieutenant Colonel, she co-hosts Our Healer, Our Protector, a Christian podcast on divorce and healthy relationships. Lisa is based in Minnesota and works with clients nationwide.

What we cover in this episode:

How faith and divorce can coexist and why God's forgiveness matters more than the stigma
The midlife dip in happiness and why so many people reassess their marriages between 40 and 55
What it really means when one partner grows and the other doesn't
Why women are taking on the masculine role in relationships and burning out because of it
The loneliness epidemic and how to actually build community after divorce
Enabling patterns in marriage and how to break them early
Why your five love languages probably change every few years
How downsizing your life can open up more freedom than you expected
Finding miracles in everyday moments and why that mindset shift changes everything

Connect with Lisa:

You can book a free 30-minute session at LisaSander.com. and check out https://ourhealerourprotector.com/ for help today!