Welcome to Money for Change, a brand-new podcast from Triodos Bank! In this weekly podcast, the Impact & Economics department will share insights and challenges related to our core question: how can we transition to a more balanced and just world?

Each episode, we’ll be joined by Hans Stegeman, Triodos Bank’s Chief Economist. Together, we’ll dive into various topics and current affairs related to this overarching question, exploring ways in which these necessary changes might be realized.

If you follow our socials you probably haven seen our social tipping point research passing by. Social tipping points refer to moments of relatively small changes in our behavior that can lead to a significant shift in the embedded norms of our system. Our study has found that the social tipping points regarding our five transition themes are mostly closer than we think. Simply put; many Dutch people want change, and quite a few people are already trying to bring about this change as well. In this episode we will analyze and discuss the most important findings with professor of socio-economic transitions Derk Loorbach at the office of the Dutch Research Institute For Transition. Together we’ll explore what proportion of society is needed to achieve our ‘social tipping points’ and how the institutional resistance that we see in politics amongst others can be interpreted as a sign of us actually coming closer to these tipping points.

Enjoy listening to this special episode of Money for Change and don’t forget to rate & follow us!

If you have any comments or questions about this episode, feel free to contact us using the form on our webpage: https://www.triodos.com/en/podcasts/money-for-change

Host: Ernst Hobma

Fixed guest: Hans Stegeman

Guest: Derk Loorbach

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Press release on Social Tipping Points research (Dutch); https://www.triodos.nl/persberichten/2025/250102-kantelpunten-voor-cruciale-veranderingen-binnen-handbereik#nieuwe-economie