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My guest today has been on the front lines for a long time, fighting the unseen battles and advocating for equality and diversity in the workplace.

Simma Lieberman is internationally known as "The Inclusionist," Her passion for diversity and its possibilities began in 1963 when she went on the March On Washington. In 1963. She wishes she could say that it was because of hearing Martin Luther King give his "I Have A Dream" speech, but she was too young to remember it.

However, she has always remembered what it felt like to be amongst 250,000 people for the first time of all colors, cultures, and ages, rallying and marching together for change.

Today, Simma works with leaders of organizations who understand that while training in areas of diversity and inclusion is important, sustainable change only occurs when diversity and inclusion are integrated into the business strategy, and are part of the organization's cultural DNAHer website is www.simmalieberman.com.