S19 Ep46: The fae folk, naked humanoids and a worm-ridden ghost (Sn. 19 Ep. 46)

Summary

Monsters Among Us – Season 19, Episode 46

Title: The fae folk, naked humanoids and a worm-ridden ghost
Release Date: September 18, 2025
Host: Derek Hayes

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Overview

This episode of Monsters Among Us features a hair-raising lineup of firsthand paranormal stories, focusing on encounters with doppelgangers, strange humanoids, urban Fae folk, a ghostly entity riddled with worms, unexplained lights, and much more. Host Derek Hayes weaves in listener calls and personal insights, creating a chilling, nostalgia-rich experience for anyone fascinated by the uncanny.

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Key Stories & Discussions

1. Doppelganger in Minnesota

(03:09–05:56)
Caller: Christy

• Summary: Christy recounts persistent encounters over more than a decade where friends, family, and acquaintances mistake another woman for her “doppelganger.” She never actually saw this double herself, but reports were frequent and unsettlingly consistent.
• Notable Details:
  • Doppelganger reportedly shares same build, features, and even glasses.
  • Occurrences ceased after Christy moved away.
  • Christy jokes about a possible unknown sibling explaining the mystery.
• Quote:

  “There's somebody who looks exactly like me... Same hair, same body, build, same facial features, same glasses.” – Christy (03:19)

• Derek’s Take: Considers the possibility of a long-lost relative but leans into the mystery.

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2. Unexplained Electric Blue Lights in Dallas

(06:54–08:23)
Caller: Anonymous (West Dallas)

• Summary: An anonymous caller describes witnessing the sky light up in white, royal blue, and purple hues for 6–7 seconds, accompanied by power flickers across several neighborhoods.
• Host’s Research: Derek connects the event to a documented transformer explosion in Fort Worth, referencing a similar “blue sky” incident in New York City.
• Quote:

  “The sky turned white, royal blue and purple... all of the lights flickered.” – Anonymous Caller (07:15)

• Derek’s Recommendation: Check the show notes for comparison videos and details.

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3. Shadowy Humanoid Figure in New Mexico

(12:43–15:56)
Caller: Emily

• Summary: Emily observes a massive black shadowy figure atop a neighbor’s roof in the desert, first noticed by her usually silent dog. Believes it could not have been an inflatable or a shadow due to lack of trees and rapid disappearance.
• Host’s Comment: Links the sighting to a local news story about a mysterious cloaked figure near a cemetery, aired during a supermoon.
• Quote:

  “I'm seeing this house... something huge and black. A shadow on top of a roof. One foot on the ground, one foot running. It had its arms like in the motion of a running stance, but it just stood there.” – Emily (13:19)

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4. Worm-Ridden Ghost in Canadian Care Home

(19:16–20:20)
Caller: Danica

• Summary: Danica shares a terrifying encounter with a specter in a care facility: a woman in a tattered hospital gown, with worms under her skin and voids for eyes, floating and pushing an IV pole down a corridor.
• Quote:

  “She had long scraggly hair in old tattered hospital gown with black worms under her skin, pools where her eyes were and she was kind of floating and she was pushing an IV pole.” – Danica (19:37)

• Derek’s Reaction:

  “Did I hear you say worms under the skin? ...Good Lord, I think I could have done without that detail.” (20:20)

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5. Invoking "The Dark Side" for Financial Gain

(21:11–27:37)
Caller: Ty (Los Angeles)

• Summary: Ty recalls a skeptical “experiment” in 2018: playfully addressing a vague “dark side” for financial help. Within days, he finds cash in public, receives a pinned $50 bill with a note, and is awarded an unexpected $1,700 in financial aid due to a supposed accounting error. Cautiously ends his experiment, fearing there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
• Quote:

  “I have a feeling the amounts of money are going to increase... I just kind of get the feeling at some point I'm going to owe somebody or something.” – Ty (26:35)

• Derek’s Feedback: Notes the lack of results when a staff member tried the same approach—“At least not well enough that she took notice.” (27:37)

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6. Disembodied Voices and Haunted Laundry Rooms

(30:03–32:24)
Caller: Lane (from South Carolina, story in Cheyenne, WY)

• Summary: Lane, who suffers from psychosis, distinguishes between his typical internal voice and a one-time, external “sweet woman’s voice” offering lunch while he cleaned a closet as a child. Family experienced similarly inexplicable events in the same house, including attempted luring into the basement laundry room.
• Quote:

  “This voice I heard when I was really young was a sweet woman's voice. And that hasn't happened to me since.” – Lane (30:46)

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7. Ghostly Energy in a Northern California Home

(33:32–37:53)
Caller: Alex (Northern California)

• Summary: Alex and friends experience an “energy shift” in a buddy’s house: the dog barks aggressively down a dark hallway, Christmas lights flicker, the TV goes to static, and their cat becomes bizarrely fixated. Later discover a past suicide occurred in that part of the house.
• Quote:

  “Mr. Biggles gets up and just starts barking super aggressively down the hallway... and as soon as that started happening, the plant... started flickering.” – Alex (34:00)

• Derek’s Comment: “You have to start listening to your pets, folks. They seem to know what’s up.” (37:53)

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8. Missing Items, the Fae, and the Penny Trick

(38:28–41:27)
Caller: Squirrel (Wichita, KS)

• Summary: Squirrel recounts family experiences with missing objects mysteriously reappearing after offering shiny pennies to the Fae, a practice grounded in Celtic folklore. Even hardline skeptics are stumped when items reappear in plain sight after the ritual.
• Quote:

  “If I was a purely critical thinker, then he gets met with this kind of thing. It's just very interesting. Some preachers, they're not necessarily evil or malicious or anything like that. They're just tricky.” – Squirrel (40:52)

• Derek’s Query: Puts out a call for more Fae encounters in Kansas or surrounding states.

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9. Mysterious Knocking Circles a Minivan

(43:55–46:54)
Caller: John (Nevada, story in Southern California)

• Summary: Late at night, while driving into Orange County with family, John hears perfectly timed and evenly spaced knocks circling the entire van from front to back and side to side at 80 mph. No mechanical explanation found.
• Quote:

  “It was just two knocks. And exact, even spacing in between. And it went around the entire car.” – John (45:19)

• Derek’s Quip: Suggests the Fae folk might be to blame.

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10. Communicating Ghost Boy in Hammond, Louisiana

(48:23–50:39)
Caller: Paige (Philadelphia, story in Hammond, LA)

• Summary: Paige encounters a glowing, blue-tinged ghost boy who communicates telepathically that he and his mother were buried beneath railroad tracks after being moved from a nearby church graveyard. Follow-up research supports many, but not all, of the historical details.
• Quote:

  “As I opened my eyes, I saw what appeared to be a young boy, around 8 to 10 years old, wearing the clothing from a time that had long since passed. His skin... was white and bright and yet with a hue of blue...” – Paige (48:34)

• Derek’s Research: Finds the cemetery exists and pre-dates the church, but railroad dates predate both deeds, muddying the historical waters.

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Secret/Bonus Story: Naked Humanoid Encounter in Washington

(58:18–59:41)
Caller: Nick (Portland, OR)

• Summary: On a rural highway, Nick sees a naked, “fleshy” figure run out of the woods toward his car. He keeps driving and offers no further detail—leaving the host to speculate on possible explanations, from cryptids (Bandage Man, Pale Crawler, Skinwalker, Wendigo) to deranged humans.
• Notable Research:
  • Derek details multiple “crawler humanoid” reports in the Pacific Northwest, linking them to cryptid legends like the Bandage Man and the Pale Crawler.
• Quote:

  “A naked figure could mean a human... but it also could have been something else. The infamous skinwalker will likely be a suggestion made, as will be the Wendigo, I assume.” – Derek (60:16)

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Memorable Quotes

• On financial “miracles”:

  “There are no free rides. You're going to either end up owing someone or something.” – Derek Hayes (27:37)

• On unexplained phenomena and skepticism:

  “If you say this particular voice was different, then I have to believe you.” – Derek Hayes (32:24)

• On the quirks of fairies:

  “Fairies, the Fae, Bogarts, gremlins, elves, dwarves, brownies… tricksters. They pop up here and there… and most of the time… out West.” – Derek Hayes (41:27)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:09 – Doppelganger story from Minnesota (Christy)
• 06:54 – Dallas “lights in the sky” incident
• 12:43 – Shadow humanoid in New Mexico (Emily)
• 19:16 – Worm-ghost in Canadian care facility (Danica)
• 21:11 – “Calling the dark side” financial experiment (Ty)
• 30:03 – Disembodied voice and haunted laundry (Lane)
• 33:32 – Haunted house: pets react (Alex)
• 38:28 – The Fae, missing objects, and the penny trick (Squirrel)
• 43:55 – Mysterious knocks while driving in California (John)
• 48:23 – Ghost child under the railroad in Louisiana (Paige)
• 58:18 – Secret story: naked humanoid in Washington (Nick)

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Derek’s tone is inviting but matter-of-fact, fueling the spooky, campfire vibe of the show.
• Listener stories range from earnest and frightened to speculative and tongue-in-cheek.
• Skepticism is balanced with open-minded curiosity, and each call is treated respectfully, regardless of content.

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Final Thoughts

This episode exemplifies why Monsters Among Us is a go-to for paranormal enthusiasts: a wide variety of firsthand, unexplained encounters arranged in a chilling, engaging, communal format. Each story is received with empathy and wonder, and Derek’s commentary, occasional research, and lighthearted asides amplify both the intrigue and eeriness.

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Remember: When the sky lights up or things go missing, perhaps it’s just a transformer… or the Fae. And if you see a naked figure run at your car: keep driving.

Transcript

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[Derek Hayes]

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[Derek Hayes]

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Or wherever you get your podcasts. Good evening and welcome to Monsters Among Us. I am your guide Derek Hayes. It's a pleasure having you with us here tonight. No, I don't have time to dilly dally. There's no time for small talk tonight because we have a ton of content to get through here this evening. Maybe even a bit more than my one hour allots for. So what I'm saying is let's just get after it. Coming to us from the state of Minnesota, please welcome Christy to the program.

[Caller]

Hi, this is Christy from Minnesota. So I was listening to the podcast and I remembered that I have a doppelganger story. This has happened for much of my life, especially from the time I was about 17 till I was almost 30. There is somebody in my neighborhood, the neighborhood I grew up in and went to post secondary school and worked and lived and everything. There's somebody who looks exactly like me. She looks so much like me that my sister in law and a very good friend almost approached her in the Rosedale shopping center because they thought she was me. Same hair Same body, build, same facial features, same glasses. When I was going to the VO Tech school, I had a teacher come up to me and call me by another name. And when I looked up at him confused, he said, don't you remember me? And I went, I'm sorry, but my name is not, I'll say Karen, whatever the name was he used, my name is Christy. And he got very embarrassed and walked away very quickly. But it wasn't just one person. I had more than a few people come up to me, start talking to me like they knew me, and then realize that they had no idea who I was. I have no explanation for it. I never saw her. I no longer live in that area. I live 3 1/2 hours north of there and have not had any experiences since. But I don't know if I have a doppelganger in the area. If that was just something that was happening at that time, God forbid, my dad would have had a kid my age since I was the middle of five by somebody other than my mom. I would have been very shocked and surprised to find that out. And my parents are both passed now. But it was weird. It was strange and a bit disconcerting when you realize that we were in the same area for probably a good 15, 20 years. Bye.

[Derek Hayes]

Now. It's been a while since we shared a doppelganger story and I don't know that we've ever let off with one. So thank you Christy, for starting us off on a spooky foot. Now, Christy brought up a possible solution I never thought of before. That perhaps the doppelganger was merely a relative. Perhaps a long lost relative. That is a pretty good explanation. A weird, wacky stuff, Christy. And I wish I had an answer for you, but sometimes the mysteries prevail. Now, before we rush off to this evening's first AD break, how about another quick call? This time from an anonymous source from down in Texas.

[Caller]

Hi, so I'm calling anonymous, but I'm coming from the west side of Dallas. This happened in the mid January 2025. We were on the way home, me and my husband and our compadres, he's our kids godfather. It was a clear night, no rain, it was windy, but not like a lot. There was no rain in the forecast. There was no thunder, lightning, none of that. The sky, it was dark. It was like at 9 o' clock at night. And we flew up to our apartment. I'm getting out of the car and then all of a sudden the sky turned white, royal blue and purple. And this lasted for about six, seven seconds. And I stood from the car door, all three of us, like, did you see one? Did y' all see one? We were just amazed and like, just, it was eerie. And when that happened, all of the lights flickered, all of our porch lights, the apartment complex, everything flickered. And from the street over here, off of Singleton and Loop 12, the lights were off as well. But we've never seen anything like that in the sky. It went from like white, royal blue and a beautiful purple. It lit up the night sky. So it was kind of eerie feeling. So, yeah, I just want to let you know, and I love your show. I always listen to you. We're really big friends and I hope you're doing well. Thanks.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, caller. Now, calls like this are a lot of fun because there are enough details given that the team and I can actually track down some information. And we think we might have cracked this one maybe. Now, first off, the sky can be lit up by all sorts of things. Things, especially in major city centers like Dallas. Low clouds can bounce light back down to us, causing it to be unnaturally bright. Outside, stadiums do laser shows that light up the sky, especially when there's a lot of moisture or dust in the air. And greenhouses can also light up the night sky. Those specialized lights that help the plants grow are quite powerful. Now, the point here is that there are all sorts of things out there that could cause the sky to light up. But I don't think that any of those examples should have only lasted six or seven seconds. But in our research, we stumbled upon an event that occurred on the 8th of January, 2025, roughly the same time that our caller had her experience a transformer explosion on the east side of Fort Worth. 7:14pm that night, both Denton and Fort Worth 911 lines lit up with calls reporting a large explosion at a nearby substation. Homes in the area were evacuated, but no injuries were reported. Now, by the way, there is a video of this event in the show notes, and sadly, it's of the aftermath of the explosion and not the explosion itself. But five or six years ago, something similar happened up in New York City. A bright blue light filled the sky with a supernatural shade of blue, setting off alarms citywide and scaring the hell out of a lot of New Yorkers. But just like I suspected to be the cause with her collar down in Texas, it ended up being a large substation transformer shorting out and exploding. Now, I've linked to a video of that blue light seen in New York in the Show Notes. So take a look at the Show Notes Scholar, and let us know if what you saw looked like what took place up there in New York. And if it does, we might have ourselves an explanation. Thank you again for making the call. You know, this world is full of mystery, and chances are, if you're listening to this show, you're always looking for more deep dives into the unknown. And that's why I recommend checking out the Belief Hole podcast. Every other week, the brothers of the Belief Hole present the strangest true stories with corroborative research and immersive storytelling. From documented cases of near invisible sky creatures that float hidden in the world just above the sinister, mimicking entities that lure you into the dark, the Belief Hole is an amazing grab bag of the bizarre. Whether you're hungry for new stories of scarcely heard hauntings, unsettling encounters with roadside dogman, or clandestine cases of psychic government projects, the Belief Hole is the place to dig. The guys take the topic seriously, but have a natural brotherly banter and are just weird enough to often make me feel like I'm laughing in the dark with friends. So join me in listening to the Belief Whole podcast available on Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. I also put a link down in the Show Notes.

[Ty / Podcast Host or Guest]

There's false stars on every one of these.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you. All right, gang, it's time for another tale. And for this one we work our way down to the great American Southwest. Please welcome Emily out of New Mexico.

[Emily]

Hi Monsters Among US fans. My name's Emily. I live in New Mexico. I live near the Oregon mountains specifically, and I saw this today at 8am August 6th. And then two hours later at 10:30 close to 11ish, it was no longer there. My dog was the one that saw it first. Actually, my dog doesn't like to bark. He doesn't do it. Not even to stray dogs, not even to people he doesn't know. To strange sounds. Yes, he will bark at strange sounds. There was no sound coming out of us. He was barking really intense, so he got my attention really quick. And he was barking towards the back of our house. We live in the desert, so there's no trees around us to block whatever he's seeing. So I'm looking like two streets over. That's how good our visibility is to other houses. And two streets down, I'm seeing this house. Like our yards over here are pretty big. They're like a good five acres per house per structure. So I'm seeing a good distance. Why am I seeing Something huge and black. A shadow on top of a roof. One foot on the ground, one foot running. It had its arms like in the motion of a running stance, but it just stood there. Think of like the Punisher, but not the Punisher and just a shadow. So I thought it was an inflatable, like a Halloween inflatable. And if it was a Halloween inflatable, two hours later, they wouldn't take it down. If they just put it up, they would, like deflate it. It would be like a black blob on top of the roof. It wasn't. So I'm thinking, okay, maybe it was a shadow of a tree. There's no trees out here. If you have a tree, that means that the person planted it and they're trying to keep it alive as best they can with water. And when we went back outside later, that thing wasn't there. There was no remnants of like an inflatable. I'm looking at that house and there is nothing that can explain a shadow away. There's nothing taller than that house on that property. It couldn't have been a shadow because the shadow has to be on something. This was above the house already. Like the head, the shoulders, they were not explain away shadowy on the house. It was air. It's so hard to explain. I thought it was the Punisher thing because, you know, the movie's coming out Halloween, someone could put an inflatable. But no, it wasn't there. I went back outside since, and it hasn't been. It's barely 12. Thank you for putting me on the show. Please call in if you know what this is. It would be something off my heart to just know what this is.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you. Bye. Thank you, Emily. Now, as I was listening to Emily's story, I'm reminded of some wild news coverage out of her state about a mysterious figure that looks almost exactly like what Emily described here. A tall figure in a dark black cloak. I think of the light wanderer, Matt. Drivers called it a creepy scene. A figure cloaked in all black standing at this cemetery. Sunday stopped traffic on the highway.

[Caller]

So who was he?

[Derek Hayes]

The eve of the supermoon. Eyes of passerbys were drawn to a dark figure looming over the San Jose del Rosario cemetery on Gibson by i25.

[Emily]

Everybody was freaked out. Everybody wanted to know what it was.

[Derek Hayes]

Michelle Gonzalez thought a crash caused the backup. But when she got out of her.

[Emily]

Car, I actually was gonna try and walk up and see what it was. And some guy stopped me and he told me that it probably wasn't the best of thing to go up there and because you never know that.

[Derek Hayes]

Clip courtesy of KRQE News 13 out of Albuquerque. Now we covered the story recently, actually season 19 episode 28 if you'd like to get more background. But maybe it's the same guy. Emily, take a look at the show notes and see if the descriptions match. Although I have no idea why this figure would be up on someone's roof. Unless of course, maybe it was his own. Regardless, it's certainly weird stuff. Emily we thank you again for calling. Now folks, if you have a story you would like to share here on the program, give our hotline a call at 888-608-night. That's 888608 NIG HT. Or you can shoot us an email with a voice memo attached at Monsters Among Us podcast gmail dot com. And don't forget about these simple rules when you make your call. True stories only. One story per call. One call per story. Unless you need more time. In that case, just call in and pick up where you left off. And probably most importantly, call from a quiet place. No loud rooms, no televisions in the background, and no moving vehicles please. And don't forget about those hometown legends. You still have about a week to get those in. And lastly, don't forget about Monsters Among Us Junior. New episodes every other Wednesday. And if you have a little one in your life that might want to share a paranormal experience themselves, have them call the monsters among us junior hotline at 833 MAU kids. Now moving on to tonight's next entry. We make our way up to Canada. Please welcome Danica to the program.

[Caller]

Hi Derek, My name is Danica. I'm from Vanderhoof, bc, British Columbia, Canada. Of course I wanted to share one of my stories. I worked as a care aide about 13 years ago. I was in a long term care home. Well during that time I was still smoking then. So I was on night shift and it was my time to have my break. I got relieved. I went down a corridor and I saw this specter coming at me. It was a woman. She had long scraggly hair in old tattered hospital gown with black worms under her skin, pools where her eyes were and she was kind of floating and she was pushing an IV pole. Anyway, needless to say I didn't go for my smoke that night and I was just absolutely terrified. I went back to the pod where I was working and tried to calm down and finish the rest of the night shift. Anyway, I just wanted to share that. Thanks, Derek. Take care. Bye.

[Derek Hayes]

We appreciate the call. Danica. Surprise, surprise. A ghost in a healthcare facility. Like schools and prisons, I feel like most all of these medical facilities have a ghost story or two attached to them. And did I hear you say worms under the skin? Danika? Good Lord, I think I could have done without that detail. No, it's hair raising stuff, Danika. And we thank you again for sharing the nightmare. Well, this next entry is sort of an odd one. From the state of California, please welcome Ty to the program.

[Ty / Podcast Host or Guest]

Hey, Derek, it's me, Ty again from la, longtime listener and frequent caller. So this would be around 2018, and this involves a person at that time who I'd known for about 10 years. We met back in 2008. We worked at an office building in Beverly Hills since I met him. And we were having a conversation one day and I didn't know much about his past and his childhood. You know, he told me he had a very difficult childhood, parents weren't around much. Long story short, he would tell me that he relied, he just called it the dark side. Didn't give it a name or anything, but he would just tell me that he relied on or called on the dark side from his late teen years all the way until now or currently at the time for things that he needed. And just to preface this for a second with myself, I'm not religious. I don't belong to religion. I don't judge anybody who does. I've just never been that way myself. Sort of a skeptic. And just like I say, I do believe in good and bad, but beyond that, I really don't give it much thought. So we're having a talk like we normally do about this. And again, I don't usually interject much. I just listen. But when we got off the phone, I thought, well, you know, for the heck of it, I mean, at this point I was kind of needing some financial help. And I thought, you know, for the heck of it, I'm just going to kind of humor myself. I was kind of laughing to myself, I'm going to humor myself and I'm going to call up this dark side and ask if I can get some assistance, money wise, right? So I just kind of, I wouldn't really even call it a prayer. I just kind of said, look, you know, whoever you are, whatever you are, is the dark side. You know, I need some financial help. If you could help me, I would much appreciate that. If you could manifest that, you know, thank you. That was basically, it didn't give it much thought. Fast forward about three days later, I'm at my favorite restaurant in the Valley in la. And let me kind of set up the layout of this restaurant. So the way this restaurant is is that you open the front door and you probably walk about 20ft straight ahead, and there's a counter where you place your order. I'm seeing this for a reason, because as I'm walking in here, first of all, this is about 2 o' clock in the afternoon on a weekday. So this is that lull period after lunch. So there's literally only one other customer in the restaurant, and he's on a completely different side of the restaurant. So nobody else in the restaurant. So again, as they open the door and as I'm walking up this 20ft, nothing, just basically tables on both sides of this aisle. So I'm walking up to the counter and they all know me there. So when the woman comes up, we kind of chatted for about a minute or two. And then I was starting to place my order, and she interrupts me and she says, hey, is that your money? And I said, huh? And she's pointing behind me, she goes, is that your money? I turn around and there's a bunch of dollar bills on the floor probably about 10ft in back of me. Again, this is the very aisle that I just walked up, but there was nothing there. I don't carry much cash on me. I carry maybe five or ten bucks on me, and the rest I just use credit or debit cards. And that was still in the wallet. So I know it wasn't for me. So I'm kind of shocked. So I said, excuse me for a second. And I go over there and I scoop up all these bills, and it was about 100, probably called about 113 or 14 bucks in cash. I said, oh, my God. So I scoop it up, put it in my wallet again, because there was nobody in that section of the restaurant, so it could not have been anybody else's. So I grabbed it, placed my order, and, you know, finished out my day. Didn't think much about it. About three days later, I was on a bus to Glendale. And as often happens sometimes, you know, I doze off. I missed my stop. When I woke up, I realized that. So I got off the bus, and it meant that I would now have to cross the street and catch the opposite bus going back the other way. So as I'm walking to this bus stop, and this is Glendale, so it's kind of a fancy bus stop or Actually, a bus shelter. As I walk into the bus stop, it's got one of these, like. I guess I would almost call it like a bulletin board where people can pin things up, things like that, put up notices or whatever. And there's just a little note there. The note just simply said, because you are you. And somebody had pinned a $50 bill to this note, to this bulletin board. And my guess is probably just for, I suppose, you know, first come, first serve, I suppose, just for whoever came along first. So that was me. So I took down the $50 bill, took the note, and put it in my pocket. And so this is great. Again, waited for my bus and, you know, went on. Didn't give it much thought. About four days later. @ the time, I was taking management classes at Pasadena City College in la, and as such, I was getting financial aid. And the way this usually works is this is like a semester school, so they break it up in two parts. So generally what will happen is the first, about a month before the semester starts, you'll get half of it, and then about a month or two in, you get the other half. Well, these classes I was taking, I was already about halfway in. So I had already gotten both of my allotments for financial aid, so I was not owed anymore. So one day I'm at school, and there's an app that we use to kind of manage your, you know, financial aid account. And on this app, I got notification that I had some more money available. And I thought, well, that's kind of strange. I thought, there's no way I should have any money available. But anyway, I. Since the office is on campus, I went to the office and I inquired about it. And the woman looked me up and did some checking. And she says, no, no, she says, it looks like they did some accounting errors and you're owed some money. And I said, well, how much is it? She said, it's almost $1,700. And I almost fell off my chair. I was like, oh, good Lord. So she says, do you want to accept? I said, yeah, yeah, I definitely accept. Thank you. Thank you. So, as you can imagine, I was beyond shocked that it never happened. And so I remember as I left the office, though, you know, the gears in my head started turning. I kept thinking, you know, this is great. And I thought, you know, I have a feeling the amounts of money are going to increase. I said, but just the way I am as a skeptic, there's no free lunch, so to speak. Right. I just kind of get the feeling at some point I'm going to owe somebody or something. Something or something is eventually that this isn't just for free. So basically I went and found a little quiet place on the campus and just kind of said, look, I reached out to this dark side or whatever it was, just kind of said, look, hey, listen, thank you. I appreciate all that you've done. This has been a great help. I said, but I think at this point I'm going to have to call up this little experiment and just kind of end it here. I do thank you. Hope I didn't waste your time. Thanks a lot. Basically. Bye. And that was kind of what I said. And I noticed after that, you know, the excess money cut off, I mean, whatever that was, wherever that was from, I don't know. But I do know that after that, that was 2018, this is now 2025. And I have not gotten any more surprises like that. So whatever it's worth, I just thought I would pass it on. As always, great show. Keep it up. Thanks.

[Derek Hayes]

Thanks. Ty. I had the same thought that you did. There are no free rides. You're going to either end up owing someone or something. Now, our researcher Delaney told me that when she first processed this call a year or so ago, she tried the exact same thing that Ty did. She asked the dark side to help her out financially. And probably to no one's surprise, it didn't work. At least not well enough that she took notice. And I don't know that I'm gonna press my luck by asking. Like Ty said, I certainly don't want to end up owing someone something that I can't pay back. But I think the story is incredible. Tyranny. It certainly seems like something was out there helping you out. Thank you again for making the phone call.

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[Listener / Caller]

Hi Monsters Among Us. This is Lane from South Carolina. But this story happens in Cheyenne, Wyoming. When I was about, I want to say, six or seven, I was cleaning a closet and I heard clear as day a woman ask, what do you want for lunch? And I thought was weird because my mom was mad at me at the time and this voice sounded kind and I didn't think much of it. And like I will caveat this with I do suffer from psychosis. I hear a voice in my head, but this was different. The voice I hear in my head is a male voice, but this voice I heard when I was really young was a sweet woman's voice. And that hasn't happened to me since. And it stuck with me this entire time. I'm 24 and it's weird, but later I found out my brothers had creepy experiences with a laundry room in our basement. And I don't know the full story, but basically this female entity tried luring us into this laundry room. It was so weird. And my mom was taking a shower one day and she heard a door open. And like, she thought it was my father, but he wasn't even home for hours at that point. Personally, I think it was a demon that somehow made its way into our house. I tried doing some research on the house. From what I have found, no one.

[Caller]

Died in the house.

[Listener / Caller]

From what I understand, my parents were the first owners of the house, so I don't know if it was built on sacred ground or whatnot. Anyways, I thought that was interesting. I've been listening to your show for the past month and I'm really happy I found it. Thank you for so many stories and have a wonderful day.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Lane, for making the phone call. Now, I imagine it could get frustrating if you suffer from any condition that causes you to hear disembodied voices and you live in a haunted house. I could see how you could drive yourself mad trying to determine if what you hear or see is a real manifestation or just a trick of the brain. I do not envy you at all, Lane. It sounds like a tough spot to be in, but if you want my two cents, I agree with you. If you say this particular voice was different, then I have to believe you. And if that is the case, that would suggest some sort of ghostly activity. So whatever the cause, we thank you again, Lane, for telling us all about it. And speaking of ghostly activity, this next call has that subject covered like a blanket. Please welcome Alex from parts unknown.

[Listener / Caller]

Hey, there.

[Alex]

This is Alex. The story takes place in Northern California. When I was in high school, probably 2011. Me and three of my buddies were looking for something to do on, like, Friday or Saturday night. It was fall, and it was rainy out, and there's nothing going on, no parties. And we decided to just have a chill night at his mom's house. His mom's house is always a little bit creepy for us, but nothing ever happened there. You know, we were just gonna hang out and play some video games. So we had his big English Mastiff Dog, Mr. Biggles, with us. We're all sitting on the couch playing video games. And we decided to take a little break because we were just tired of that. And we're talking, sitting around, and Mr. Biggles gets up and just starts barking super aggressively down the hallway. No lights were on down there. And it really shocked us all because he's a big dog, a big, booming bark. But he also never really barked at anyone. You know, strangers would show up, and he would sit in the back of his mom's car all the time and was just a total sweetheart to everybody. And to see him, that wound up, was really scary for us in the first place. And as soon as that started happening, the plant, to my right, indoor plant that was always wrapped in Christmas lights started flickering. And we kind of were looking at that, and we noticed that the little cat that he has, a black and white cat, jumps up on the coffee table, stares at us with this just total creepy look that we've never really seen before, and was just unfazed by us talking at it and the dog's barking the whole time, and the lights turn off, just the Christmas tree lights, and the TV screen goes static. And the energy was just so heavy. And all of us, we realized we were all totally cuddled up with each other with our knees bent in total fear. And we decided that we needed to get out of there. So we all got up, I turned off the TV, and we grabbed Mr. Biggles and got out of there, locked the door, and we were just trying to shake it off in the street. And we decided we could walk over to my buddy's dad's house and spend the night there instead, because there's no way we were staying there. And as we were walking away. We were just asking each other what the hell that was. And we looked back, and the little cat Cosmo, had walked out into the middle of the street and was sitting down under the streetlight just staring at us. And that cat sat there and stared at us the entire walk, the entire two blocks that we walked away till we turned to go down another street. You know, that just shook us. Had a hard time going to sleep that night. We went back the next morning to get our stuff. And the Christmas tree lights turned on fine. There was no breaker that needed to be switched. TV was fine, and it felt okay. But, you know, we were just kind of never really hung out in that house again, actually. And we told his mom. She told us that someone had committed suicide in the bathroom, which is the direction that Mr. Biggles was barking. Kind of makes sense to us. And they soon after moved out of that house. We drive by there every once in a while when I visit back home. And the whole house was remodeled. And I just wonder if there's still any energy left there. It was definitely one of those things where all of us witnessed it, as well as the animals being influenced. Something was there. We didn't see anything, but, you know, we could all feel it. And maybe the dog saw it, but we didn't. Anyways, thank you so much for all that you do, and have a good night.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Alex, for the call. Now, Mr. Biggles tried to tell you. Cosmo the kitten tried to tell you. You have to start listening to your pets, folks. They seem to know what's up. Fun stuff, Alex. Well, fun for us, at least. Thank you again for taking the time to share. Now, folks, here with a possible fairy story is Squirrel out of the state of Kansas.

[Squirrel]

Hi, Derek. This is Squirrel in Wichita. I was calling because I was listening to some of your Patreon stories today while I was at work, and there was a story that kind of caught my attention. It's a story about a woman who was looking for her earbuds, ended up finding them in a location that she'd already cleared that they were not. And it caught my attention because this is kind of something that some, like, friends have dealt with extensively throughout the years. And it kind of, like, spread into my life at some point, too. So my friend, she has deep family roots in. I think it's Celtic roots. Her and her father are both real, real big believers in the supernatural, especially in fey and tricky creatures and such like that. And there have been instances where they've told me about stuff going missing. And they dismiss it as the fate have taken whatever it was. Like they just wanted what it was. And usually what they end up doing is they just take like a shiny penny or something and they say give it back and then just like flip it over their shoulder or something into like a far corner of the room. And then later on they'll end up finding whatever it was in a fairly conspicuous place. I remember a story from my other friend who was her boyfriend at the time. He's like a real, real critical person. He like wants to explain away everything, but he just couldn't explain this away. It was on multiple instances he would describe that he'd be looking for his keys all over the place, for example. And he recollected to me one time specifically that he was looking for his keys. He couldn't find them anywhere. He looked all over the place. And then his girlfriend's dad did the penny trick, took a shiny penny, flicked it over his shoulder, and just went about his day. And then after a little while, the keys were just sitting right in the middle of a table in the living room. It blows his mind. It upsets him, really. I can't say that I really disagree with him, because if I was a purely critical thinker, then he gets met with this kind of thing. It's just very interesting. Some preachers, they're not necessarily evil or malicious or anything like that. They're just tricky.

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you. Squirrel fairies, the Fae, Bogarts, gremlins, elves, dwarves, brownies, those frightened doosing little tricksters. They pop up here and there on the show from time to time. And most of the time these things are encountered here on the west coast. Mostly California, if I'm honest. But the Kanza people have oral legends describing wild little people in the Kansas area going back hundreds of years. But outside of that, there's not much tying this phenomena to the Jayhawk State. So I'll use this opportunity to put some feelers out there. Is anyone sitting on a little people story out of Kansas or the surrounding area? If so, I know a whole bunch of people that would love to hear it. Thank you again, Squirrel, for the interesting entry.

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This is the story of the 1. As a maintenance supervisor at a manufacturing facility, he knows keeping the line up and running is a top priority. That's why he chooses Grainger. Because when a drive belt gets damaged, Grainger makes it easy to find the exact specs for the replacement product he needs. And next day delivery helps ensure he'll have everything in place and running like clockwork. Call 1-800-granger. Click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done. Well, here we are, down to our last couple calls of the evening. And for this first one, we work our way to the Silver State. Please welcome John from Nevada.

[Listener / Caller]

Hi, Derek. This is John. I should have called this in when you did your transportation episode, but it's something that's bothered me for a while, and I was just curious if anyone else has ever had this experience at all while they were traveling in Southern California there. A few years ago, I lived in Las Vegas and we decided to travel down to Newport Beach. And so my wife, myself, my two daughters and their friend traveled down from Las Vegas to Newport beach in our minivan. And it was late at night as we were pulling into Orange County. It was probably about, oh, close to midnight. And we were Traveling down the 91 to the 55 off of I15, headed towards Orange County. And it was either on the 91 after we were on it for a little while, or right when we got on the 55. And we're traveling about 80 miles an hour in the van in the fast lane. And there's suddenly two knocks at the front of the car. And then a couple seconds later, two knocks on the passenger side door on the outside. Then two knocks on the middle row door a couple seconds later. Then two knocks on the back panel of the car. A couple seconds later, two knocks on the rear of the car. And as this is happening, we're all starting to say, who's doing that? What's going on? And then two knocks at the driver's side back panel. A couple seconds later, two knocks on the middle row door outside. And then two knocks on my door. I'm driving the car. And it was just extremely odd that it circled the entire car. And we were looking for anything that could have been hitting the doors at all, anything stuck to the car. And there was absolutely nothing. We're traveling 80 miles an hour, nothing stuck to the car, nothing was flapping or hitting. And it was just two knocks. And Exact, even spacing in between. And it went around the entire car. It was the most odd thing that I've ever had happen while traveling in a car late at night. And I was just really curious whether anyone else traveling on either of those freeways has ever had something knocking all around their car. It wasn't mechanical, anything like that. To this day we have no idea. I really enjoy your show. I appreciate it. Thanks. Bye.

[Derek Hayes]

I don't know John. Maybe your car has Fae folk dwelling within it. Interesting. Now I've been through that area a number of times and I can tell you that the roads can be noisy, shifting concrete there. Perhaps we have our fair share of earthquakes in that area after all. But why? And how would it circle the van? The way that John described seemingly moving from one door to another. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't some elven species. After all, I'd say roughly 80 to 90% of the fairy or forest person stories that I play take place here in the Golden State. Maybe that's not a coincidence. I'd be very curious to know what everyone else in your vehicle thinks. Thought it was. John. Are there any theories there that might hold water? Thank you again John for sharing the story. It's always fun to hear a submission from a place that I'm familiar with. Now folks, here we are. Tonight's final entry. An unusual experience from down in the bayou. Please welcome Paige out of the state of Pennsylvania.

[Caller]

Hi Derek. My name is Pace and I'm calling from Philadelphia. But my story took place in Hammond, Louisiana on a cool summer night back in 2007. On this night there was nothing notable or extraordinary going on. I was living alone at this point in an apartment building called Oak Alley. To my knowledge, the building was not very old and had no history of hauntings or any historical significance. That night I went to bed around 10pm and I slept until around 3am At 3, I was awoken by a bright light that appeared in the right hand corner of my bedroom. As I opened my eyes, I saw what appeared to be a young boy, around 8 to 10 years old, wearing the clothing from a time that had long since passed. His skin in particular looks similar to how the moon appears. It was white and bright and yet with a hue of blue to his illumination. He stood there in the right corner of my room, never opening his mouth. And during this time he communicated to me this story. He wanted me to know that there was a mistake. He and his mother were buried at the graveyard down the street from me. At a church called Grace Memorial. After they were buried, the railroads were built on the back end of the graveyard, which also happened to be on top of their graves. The graves remain under these railroad tracks and they want to be moved back into the borders of the church graveyard. The next morning, I woke up not really knowing how he had left or how I had gotten back to sleep recently, like within the last, like few weeks. I did the research on this and Grace Memorial was built in 1876. According to the records I found on the railroads, it looks like they were completed around 1900, though I couldn't find any records that indicated when this particular.

[Listener / Caller]

Piece of track was built.

[Caller]

While I still need to do some more research, it would seem that it may be possible that a little dead boy asked me for a favor on a cool summer night so very long ago. What I don't know about this story is nearly endless. Why me? Why there? And has he appeared to anybody else?

[Derek Hayes]

Thank you, Paige. Another of those classic ghost stories. You know, the prom date that ended up being dead the entire time with a burned down orphanage plagued with a ghost of the deceased. Or in this case, a ghost coming back from beyond to complain about a burial location. Now, as we often do here on the program, we dug into this story just a bit, so I hope you are ready for some history. Now, we started with the National Register of Historic Places. And according to the applications that was submitted for review Back in 1972, immediately behind the church is an early cemetery. A portion of an original iron fence still stands to assist in defining the cemetery. The Grace Memorial Episcopal Church was the first church in the unsettled section of the Pine Woods Wilderness north of Moropa and northwest of Pontchartrain in southeast Louisiana, now known as Hammett, Louisiana. The new settlement was connected to New Orleans by the raised rail track of the New Orleans Jackson and Great Northern Railroad, which ran through the swamps to the city. So at least part of Paige's story holds up here. There was in fact an older cemetery behind the Grace Memorial Church, and there was and still is a railroad track running through that area. Nowhere. Researcher Delaney was quick to point out that there was no mention on the application of the removal of bodies or the relocation of them. So that's certainly an interesting detail. But one last tidbit of useful information here is that the church was built in 1876, and the first burial in the cemetery there occurred all the way back in 1860. So again, it all still sort of lines up with pages story. But here's where the wheels begin to fall off. The railroad was built six years prior to even the cemetery's date of establishment. Now does that mean that the ghost couldn't exist? Or that what it communicated wasn't true? But it does mean that it in the few hours we were able to spend on the story, we could not find proof that helped support those claims. But maybe that location was selected as a cemetery and later as a church because it already had graves on it from perhaps decades prior. Graves known to locals at the time but later forgotten to history. And you know, maybe one of those graves belongs to the little blue skinned boy that beckoned Paige for help. Maybe this is all as real as it gets. Now, I can't tell you for certain that this call was a real gem. I don't even care that the dates didn't line up perfectly. I'm still convinced. And I appreciate you closing us out here tonight, Paige. Thank you again for making the phone call. Now Monsters Among Us podcast is written and produced by me, Derek Hayes, copyright Red Crow Media. Additional support is provided by Sarah Carter Hayes, Delaney Bowers and Connor Ryan. All media used in this production is done so under the protection of fair use. Be sure to follow us on our social media pages, give us a like and follow on YouTube, leave us a rate and review wherever you can and join us on our Discord server. Now don't forget, you can catch the show every Saturday evening at 10pm Eastern on the unax digital network. Just visit on xnetwork.com to tune in. Now. Finally this evening, tonight's score was provided by Iron Cthulhu Apocalypse co Agmuch Music and Carl Casey at Whitebot Audio. Now folks, that's going to do it for this one. A huge thanks to all those that shared stories here this evening and an even bigger thanks to all those that tuned in here tonight. That means you. Now if you're smart, you'll stick around. You know how these scenes scary things go. The antagonist always has one last jump scare left in them. So stick around if you dare. Otherwise, have yourselves a good night.

[Listener / Caller]

Sam.

[Ty / Podcast Host or Guest]

And I was promotion.

[Derek Hayes]

That's billion with a B. Yeah, but here's what I do know watching the.

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[Ty / Podcast Host or Guest]

Half game lead over the O Chief Chiefs and then lead the division by.

[Derek Hayes]

Now, if you've stuck with us this long, you've made an excellent choice. Because not only is tonight's secret story a weird one, it's also extremely unsettling. Please welcome Nick out of the Beaver state of Oregon.

[Listener / Caller]

Hey Derek. This is Nick from Portland, Oregon. I was on a camping trip in Washington State. I don't remember the campsite we were at, but after we were camping we went up to a friend's cabin in Long Beach, Washington. I believe it was somewhere like north of Long Beach. Went to like an old cabin and they had built a newer cabin on site. We were staying in a newer one. There was an abandoned house that they this walk through was creepy, but this is about the drive back from Long Beach, Washington down to Portland, Oregon on some weird rural highway. I wish I could be more specific, but we were driving down. Everyone was really tired and grumpy from this trip. I was the driver. Everyone else was asleep. But while driving, in my peripheral vision, toward the right, out of the woods ran this completely naked figure towards my car. Fleshy figure, I remember so specifically. I was very awake. I kind of panicked. Kept driving forward, didn't slow down much. That naked figure just ran at my car. Yeah, out of the woods. So not much other than that. Goodbye, thank you.

[Derek Hayes]

That's not something you want to see coming at you through your windshield? Well, it's not something I want to see coming at me through my windshield. I don't want to speak for each of you, but yeah, super weird. A naked maniac sprinting toward a speeding vehicle. A naked figure could mean a human, maybe someone on drugs, perhaps reminiscent of the Florida zombie attacks from 15 years or so ago. Surveillance footage shows the moments after a Miami police officer fatally shoots a naked man after he refused to stop chewing on the face of another naked man.

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[Derek Hayes]

And while authorities look for more witnesses.

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One man describes the scene he came across.

[Alex]

The guy was like tearing him to pieces with his mouth.

[Derek Hayes]

So I told him, get off. You know, it's like.

[Alex]

And the guy just kept eating, eating the other guy away, like ripping his skin.

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[Alex]

Police officer came over, told him several.

[Derek Hayes]

Times to get off. And the police officer climbed over the divider and got in front of him.

[Listener / Caller]

And said, get off.

[Derek Hayes]

He told him several times, and the guy just stood his head up like that with a piece of flesh in.

[Alex]

His mouth and growled.

[Derek Hayes]

One of the officers then shot and killed 31 year old Rudy Eugene. The victim, who hasn't been identified, remains in the hospital. Police have released few other details about the attack. That clip courtesy of the Associated Press. Sure, it could have been a human, but it also could have been something else. The infamous skinwalker will likely be a suggestion made, as will be the Wendigo, I assume. And coincidentally, this stretch of road happens to be home to a legendary creature or man or humanoid or whatever you want to call this thing. Locals in the area call him Bandage man, and he is a bloody mummy like figure said to jump out at cars between Highway 26 in Arch Cape there in western Oregon. But this general area is also home to another lesser known cryptid, another creepy crawler said to roam the darkness. The pale crawler. Now, sure, I often mention how prevalent sightings are of this creature in the east, but I very rarely share any reports of the creature here on the West Coast. Unless you count Nick's experience here, of course, or an experience in Marriottsville, Washington, back in 2016. The witness reported seeing a creature with big black eyes, a huge mouth with many sharp, overcrowded skinny teeth, two nostril holes and a big head near the woods at the edge of the city limits. Witnesses claimed that the entity had skin that was mostly pale with a yellowish tint and could move and climb like a cat. Or near Mount Rainier in 2017, where reports describe a grayish white light colored muscular creature approximately the same size as an adult man crawling into the bushes on the witness's property. Additional members of the family also reported encountering a seven foot tall creature with pasty white skin, large eyes and a long neck peeking into garage windows. Or back in 2019, a woman was walking her dog along a rural road just outside Seattle when the dog suddenly halted and stared intently at a dark patch of pine trees. The witness reported seeing an eerily human like figure that stood on all fours. The creature's elbows were poking out, its ribs were protruding and it had long bony fingers and its spine was protruding. The entity was a sickly pinkish pale color and it had no ears, little hair and hollow eyes. So if all or any of the these accounts actually happened the way that the witnesses think they did, then that means that these things might not just be contained to the east coast and the eastern Midwest. And I know there are plenty of caves in this area, so perhaps there's some sort of underground passageway that allows them to travel not only throughout their region, but throughout the continent as well. Now, at the very least, it's fun to hypothesize, but at the end of the day, anything is possible. It's a pale crawler, bandage man, skinwalker, or some drunk dude fulfilling a dare. Whatever it was, we're here for it. Thank you again Nick for sharing the phone call. And folks, this is the the point where I put up the velvet rope and bring out the Bigfoot bouncers because we're going beyond the VIP lounge where we continue the party for an additional 30 to 40 minutes. More calls, more stories, and more spooky good times. And to join us, all you have to do is visit monsters among us podcast.com and click the Patreon tab, or visit patreon.com and search us out. Or click the Apple subscription button on your Apple homepage. Any of those methods, plus a $5 monthly pledge will get you days worth of back content and the remainder of this episode. And you didn't hear it from me, but they're giving away a week free on either of those platforms, so a real penny pincher could easily squeeze two free weeks out of me. But hey, if you like what you hear, maybe stick around for a month just to show your support. After all, we play some pretty good stories over here in the beyond, just like Chrissy's call. Welcome to the program, Chrissy.

[Caller]

Hi, my name is Chrissy and I'm calling from North Branch, Michigan. I'm Calling about our haunted family home. My husband inherited this property when his parents died and things have been happening here since then. And I got to talking to my sisters in laws and they said things have been happening for longer than I would aware of. We have eight acres and it was bought in about 1982, 1983. The house that we are living in now, it was put on the property in 1985. I learned that my sister in laws were doing automatic writing in their bedroom in the 1990s. And for anybody who doesn't know what automatic writing is, it's when two or more people hold their fingertips to the very top of a pencil or a pen and you place it to a piece of paper and you ask questions and supposedly the spirits use your energy to move the pen and they will write answers down on the page. So they were doing that back in the 1990s. All I remember them talking about is how they were always in contact with a spirit named Eddie. I believe so. So my husband and I started dating in 2002 when we were 16, almost 17 years old. So I was around the family for about a year at this point and my sister in law was telling me about the automatic writing that her older sisters were doing. Well, it piqued my interest. So in 2003, my sister in law and I came into my mother in law and father in law's bedroom. We sat down in the quiet and we did an automatic writing session. The spirit we talked to said his name was Xavier and he told us that in the years to come my father in law would end up in prison and that my mother in law was going to pass away. My husband and I, we got married in October 2004. We were 19. The Monday after we were married, my father in law ended up losing his case that he had going on in court.

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