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S20 Ep29: Paranormal Whiteout: White UFOs, ladies in white and a white thing in the river (Sn. 20 Ep. 29)
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Good evening and welcome to Monsters Among Us. I am your guide, Derek Hayes. It's mighty nice to be with you here this evening, Al. It's mighty nice to have you with us any evening. But tonight is a little bit special because we're coming off of a much needed and dare I say, much deserved break. Now, it wasn't a complete shutdown for us here at the studio. There is plenty of behind the scenes work that has piled up over the years, but this little breather helped us put a dent in that to do list. And Sarah and I did manage to take a few days off and trek out to the high desert. So now we're recharged, reset and ready to tackle the back half of season 20. Now for tonight's entry, I went broad. A few weeks back I featured the color black, wherein each and every submission somehow involved the color. Well, I'm bringing that segment back tonight, but this time I'm featuring the absence of color. It's the color that Most folks in the States at least associate with perfection, honesty, and cleanliness. It was one of the first colors used in cave paintings, specifically the Lascaux Cave in France. The color represented death. In ancient Egypt, early Christians adopted the Roman symbolism of the color, meant to exude purity, sacrifice, and virtue. And in China and a few other ancient cultures, the color is meant to represent reincarnation, a symbol that death is not a permanent separation from the world. Tonight we're talking about the color white. And to kick off this colorless selection, please welcome Chris from California.
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Hey, bud. My name is Chris Farris. My first story starts off when I was about six or seven, living in a house in Southern California with my little brother. Every night, we would be afraid to open our door around midnight because we would see a white lady. Only the top half, though you couldn't see the bottom half. She'd be wearing a white dress with a big, like, white rim hat and a veil. It truly freaked us out. And we knew after 12 to stay the heck in our room and not even think about going out there. And it was a pretty common occurrence. We never talked about it just because, like, you know, you, like, you grow up in a family where you're like, you know, everybody's tossed and gross and we all talk trash and tease each other, so we still want to be the crybaby in the night. So this went on for years and years and years. Like when we got older and we were staying up later, playing games or watching movies on the TV in the living room, we wouldn't look back at the hallway after midnight. We would just know. We would see this lady, and we could feel her. It was almost like electricity in the air. Like you just got shocked. Like you got static shocked. You just feel the static electricity. It was crazy. So that happened for years. I eventually moved out. I'm 28 now. Recently, my cousin got married, so we all went up to Oregon for the wedding, where my nana and my cousin were living. My cousin got married to a really nice young man. So me and my brother helping my nana clear some stuff out because you know how grandmas are when they got the two grandsons, they start making them work, and we find a photo album. You know, I'm curious, Start flipping through the photo album, see if there's anything funny or cool or anything I, like, blackmail my cousins with, and I'm not finding nothing. But then I see this lady with a wide brim hat and a veil like we've been seeing in the hallway for years. I call my Brother over. I'm like, hey, does this lady look familiar to you? He said, yeah, I've seen her every night for the last few years when I was in the house. I'm like, me too. Just that moment was, like, more scary than how lady was because we were just like, oh, my God, I'm not crazy. You're not crazy. You've been seeing the same thing I've been seeing. So that's my story. Thank you for hearing me out, and I hope you have a good day.
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Thank you, Chris. Now, one might not think of it, but the Los Angeles area has quite a history, and it sounds like Chris might have been offered a glimpse into that forgotten world. Now, I would love to know how this ghostly woman was related to you, Chris. Was she a distant relative? Or perhaps someone wanting to keep an eye on the family's newest additions? Whoever she was, we love the call. So thank you again, Chris, for bringing in. Now, we're gonna go fast and loose here tonight. I think I pulled more calls than I have time for, but there's no going back now. We're committed. So please welcome Anonymous out of Bart Sundown.
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Hey, Derek. I'd like to remain anonymous. I grew up on the west coast and I was listening to season 18, episode 12 with Zach's call about the white witch, the faceless woman he was seeing. And around the same time period that he reported, I also was having sleep paralysis episodes with a woman in white who was faceless, who I also nicknamed the white witch. And I thought that was a strange coincidence, so I thought I'd call it in. Thank you.
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Thank you, caller. Are they ever really coincidences when the connection is this on the nose? White witches. Thank you again, caller, for the tale. Now, gang, if you have a story you would like to share on the show, call the hotline at 888608 night. That's 888608 night. Or you can shoot me a voice message at monsters among us podcastmail.com. well, from those white witches, we wander to New York. Please welcome Will to the show.
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Hi, my name is Will. I'm from Buffalo, New York. And when I was younger, I went out one night to go take the car to the back of the house. At the end of the street was a funeral home. And when I was going around the street, there was a guy in all white and he was kind of like glowing. That was about 12 o' clock at night. Pouring rain. I mean, such pouring rain. If you walked out for a second, you were so. So he was out in the middle of the funeral home in all whites, under the only light. And as I was rounding the corner, I looked at him, and he was standing, staring right at me, smiling. And it was kind of weird. It was like we had a moment. So I rounded the corner, and I had to bring my second car to the back of the house. So I didn't get a ticket. And when I did, he was gone. And it was 12 at night, pouring rain. When I rounded that house, it only took me a minute because I wanted to see if he was still there. So I sprinted to the other car, and I got right in the car and drove right around. So it was maybe a minute difference, maybe two minutes, probably. But anyway, there was no way he could have got out of that line of sight down this long street. In the area that I was in the street was Pine Avenue. It's very long. He couldn't have gone anywhere. So that was kind of weird. Kind of feel like maybe something has been in that house and maybe followed me ever since. So since then, I would have sleep paralysis in that house, and I would always wake up and I couldn't move. And it was kind of weird. I'm not super religious, but I did notice that when I prayed, it would stop and go away. So I remember one time I sat up in the morning when it had happened, and I tried to move. I couldn't. I prayed. And as soon as I did, I could hear kind of a weird sound like something fighting. And when I got up, because as soon as I was sat up, I said out loud, thank you, God. And I heard this evil growl right next to my ear. And I jumped up, I ran out of the house. And it turns out that I was the only one in the house at that time. So in any case, years later, I moved to another house. And I think it followed me there because it's like three in the morning, I would hear walking in the attic in this apartment that I'd lived in. I hear walking in the attic every single night about three in the morning. And one night in particular, I had had this evil dream that this thing was attacking me. And it said its name was Darius. And I looked it up. An old, ancient Hebrew. It means, thee who possesses. So that freaked me out because I woke up remembering this name. But one night in particular, living in this next house, I went to, I woke up and my bed was smashing the wall. And it was about, I'd say, three in the morning, and I didn't move. I didn't open my eyes because I knew I was in a bedroom by myself and I knew the door actually had a bolt and I knew I had locked it. So I knew I was in the room by myself. And oddly enough, I sleep with my lights on because of all the weird things that's happened in my life. So as soon as I sat up, the bed stopped rocking and the girl that I was dating at the time, who I'm now married to, called me frantically at three in the morning and she's like, I just had this dream that something was trying to hurt you. She was like almost in tears and she said, I'm leaving. I'm coming to stay with you tonight. And that was completely weird because I had had the bed rocking and at the exact same time she called me right after. So that was weird.
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Thank you, Will. And that was weird. And so was the mysterious man in white. And we certainly appreciate it, Will, that you took the time to share. Now, folks, I have all kinds of spookiness waiting for you on the other side of this quick break. Don't move a muscle because I'll be right back.
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Yeah, we'll have more at the bottom of the hour right before the 605. That disabled vehicle is in the middle lane.
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All right, gang, look up into the sky. This anonymous caller out of Wisconsin will tell you what to look for.
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Hello, I'm calling from Wisconsin. I live just south of Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
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And I want to share my UFO sighting from the other morning. It was August 2nd at 3:15am I was watching TV and my TV streaming service wasn't working. None of them were. I was getting a little frustrated with it. But then as I was kind of looking at the screen, I noticed there was a light outside just above my tv. My TV sits in a bay window, silly. And I thought maybe it was a reflection. I live by a highway. But I noticed it was getting brighter. So I stood up and I looked out the window and all of a sudden this like glowing stick of light. It was a very brilliant light, like neon white. And it was just like this stick or this rod, I guess I would say. It was at a slant and it was moving from white west to east at a pretty decent speed. I wouldn't say super fast, but it was clipping along and it wasn't terribly high in the sky. It was like midline level to my eyes. I wasn't looking up per se, but I just watched it fade into the eastern sky. As it kept going, I did look at the Starlink because I have seen Starlink satellite clusters go by. This was not like that, but I thought I'd look at the Starlink schedule anyway. And there was no satellites in the sky in Wisconsin that night. But it was really cool. I did get some video. The video is not great because it's through a window, but I did capture a picture within that video that I'll send. But then after that went through my streaming and Internet and everything was just fine. Nothing was lagging. I just thought that to be a little curious. But yeah, it was really cool. I've never seen a light like that in the sky. So that was a new experience for me. Just wondering if anybody else has seen anything like that. Thanks for listening. Bye bye.
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Thank you, caller. That white cigar shape was a very common description given in UFO reports all the way back in the 50s and 60s and I'd say even part of the 1970s. And to this day, reports like yours still trickle in from time to time. Now, before we move on, we did manage to rustle up one of those reports. One that too was made on August 2nd of that very same year, also at 3:15 in the morning. And from just down the road, the witness observed a narrow, rectangular, solid light moving across the northern sky at an angle of elevation of approximately 45 degrees. The object was slowly moving horizontally across the sky from west to east. The witness observed the object for approximately 30 seconds before it slowly faded away. The object made no noticeable sound and was too large to be any type of normal aircraft. The rectangular shape was very distinct and it was a solid light. Now, there's no denying that they both saw the exact same thing, whatever that was. And the full report from Nuford can be found over on tonight's Show Notes. And lastly here, our caller did in fact send in a photograph. You can see it in tonight's Show Notes or I'll do my best to get it posted up on social media so you can take a look for yourself. And speaking of mysterious white lights, what do you make of this one sent in from Miriam in the state of Texas?
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Hi, my name is Miriam and at the time when this occurred, I was living in Austin, Texas. So it was March 29th of 2014, and my husband and I had gone on a romantic but delayed Valentine's Day trip to Santa Fe. On the way home, we stopped at Roswell. Loved it, but got there late in the day and had an early dinner. And I can cite the time that we were there because the timestamp from the photos at the restaurant show that we were there at about 4, 4:30. So we probably left about 5, maybe 5:30 to get on the road and drive the seven hours. Go to Austin, Texas. We drove listening to music and podcasts and had a mostly uneventful drive. It gets dark and we continue on and we're driving through West Texas. At this point, the populations and towns are sparse, so it's quite dark on the roads, but it was very clear out and there was no clouds. It was a beautiful night. We were then somewhere between Sterling and San Angelo, which are a couple of towns the in Texas. And that puts us at about maybe 10 or 11pm at night based on how many stops we'd had. We suddenly see off to the side of the road to the right from the passenger side, a bright white light. It basically expands out from its center into a large round ball shape. We're like seeing an anime explosion in space. So if you ever watch Gundam Wings, they'll do space explosions. And it starts at a center point and then explodes out into a perfect sphere. This is what I Saw, but it was in white light. It was perfectly spherical and huge, you know, maybe like hundreds of feet across. And it was like a phosphorus white light, pure white. And I knew it was a physical thing because I could see on the ground below that it was bathed in this white light. And I could make out the small town that was just off the highway and see buildings and other items in detail from this light. It lasted for a few seconds and then basically reversed in. It shrunk down into its center and everything was utter blackness again. I looked at my husband and I said, tell me you saw that too. And he's a dynamical skeptic and has no truck with any spooky things. He confirmed that he had seen it. And he's also a big fan of military things and astronomical things. And so he sore up and down. This wasn't something that he was familiar with or had seen or heard of before. It definitely wasn't a flare or a plane because it didn't move and there wasn't a structure. It was just light. It just extended out from the center and then retracted into the center as well. It was suspended high up in the air. It was, you know, a couple hundred feet above these buildings that we could see. And nothing I know of in this world except for the sighted animation would behave like this. Being a big UFO nerd and into all things paranormal, I expect to move on and other websites and even newspapers to see if anybody reported this or had seen something like it. But I never found anything. I've never seen anybody describe anything like this before. So after your Mirror Men episodes and all of the people who called in with similar stories, I'm hoping this might spark somebody's memory. They'll hear this and they can maybe tell me what it was or some things that it's not. Thank you. Big fan of the podcast. I've been really enjoying it. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
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Thank you, Miriam. You know, Miriam, I think you too should have a look at New Fork, the National UFO Reporting Center. That's the best resource we found to locate likewise experiences. But other than that resource, what do you think, folks? Does this ring a bell for anyone else? And speaking of New Fork, if you search for the word white on their database, nearly 17,000 hits come back. So it's obvious that it's a prominent color among these reports. And if you need further proof of that claim, here is a third and final white UFO report for your consideration. Please welcome Logan from Ohio.
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Hi, Derek. This is Logan from Lake Erie, Ohio. Lorain County. I got something that happened to me during the aurora Borealis. The date was May 11th and 12th. We live right off the lake, so we were able to see the auroras really well. Me and my family, my woman, my two kids. We went up to the lake at about 1 1am Took a camera out there, and we were just sitting on the beach trying to get pictures of the lights and all that good stuff. It was really windy, no moon, completely black. My kids, they had fell asleep and they were just passed out on the beach. My woman, she was taking pictures and, you know, doing her thing. Yeah, we were able to see the lights, and we were just infatuated with the lights. It was awesome. First time ever seeing them. But as I was walking to the car, trying to, you know, get blankets or whatever I was getting for the kids, a fisherman and said, excuse me. And he was like, have you seen the lights that have been showing up in the sky? And I'm like, yeah, dude, it's the aurora borealis is going on right now. And he's like, no, dude. These balls of light have been showing up for the last two and a half, three hours. I've been watching them. He's like, I actually quit fishing about an hour and a half ago. And I just sat there and watched his lights. And as he's telling me this, he's pointing east, straight down the shore. He pointed out a triangle of stars. I could tell they were stars. And then he was like, they're showing up under here and they're just fizzing out. They're dying out. As he showed me this one had shown up. And he was like, holy, dude. Because that's the brightest one I've seen so far. It looked like a white ball light. It was kind of just flickering. It wasn't blinking. There was no red, there was no green. It wasn't a planet. I've seen all the planets. I know what Venus looks like. Saturn wasn't that I've seen Starlink, and it's a bunch of lights in a row. This was lower than the planes in the sky. I even took a video of a plane just for good measure to compare what I saw to a plane. And what's funny is these lights that were showing up are east of me. And what's east of me is the Peri nuclear power plant. And ever since the 911 attacks, there is a no flight zone around this nuclear power plant. And this is where these lights were. So in the time that this guy is explaining what he saw, what he's been doing. We saw three of them. Within a couple minutes they would just come and show up. They would go across sky pretty slow, but consistent go, you know, for about a minute or so. And then they would just kind of fizz out into the darkness. Sometimes it would take a couple minutes for another one to show up. And sometimes, you know, it would be almost instantaneously as one went away and I wanted to show up. I had learned from, you know, past stories on your show to look at the flight radar, the live map of lights. And there was no flights going over the lake at this time because there is the Buffalo, New York airport and there's also Cleveland Hopkins, which would be kind of that way. These lights were way closer, way, way, way brighter. I would say they were probably only a couple thousand feet. And I couldn't believe it. So I took videos of these things and, you know, these lights would just show up and fizz out into the darkness. So this happened on the Friday of the aurora borealis. We were there from 1am to about 4am, saw them all night long, have no explanation for it. So this happened that night and go to Saturday night. It was supposed to be a better viewing of the lights, the aurora. So I went back with my woman and didn't take the kids because the kids weren't very happy about how cold and windy and they just weren't having it. So I go out there about the same time, midnight 1am and sure as man, the lights are still going across the sky, same part of the sky. And I started taking videos of it. And I'm just even more, you know, surprised because this is two nights in a row now. So I got probably 10 videos. So after a couple hours of doing this, watching it, getting video footage, and just being, you know, blown away, I went home and showed my dad. And when I tried showing him the videos, I was only seeing one light going across the sky. When I slowed it down and tried showing him, I realized I caught a triangle of these white orbs. The triangle actually two of the orbs shoot away from each other. Like if you were to take a triangle and it would just like go out equally, the two sides shoot out, almost out of vision. They go and they make a 90 degree turn, going really fast. I mean, this is like a shooting star does a 90 degree turn and then shoots like a shooting star straight back to one orb. And the two orbs do this simultaneously almost at the same exact time. And it made one orb and that one orb after a few seconds, phases out into the darkness. Another weird thing. The videos that I have, if I go forward, some of them are kind of hard to see or whatever, but if I take it in reverse and use my finger to, like, control the speed of the video, I'm seeing more than one light. I'm seeing something that what isn't there? When I'm going forward with the video, but in reverse, I'm seeing more than one. I mean, these are like shooting stars shooting through the sky. And when I zoom in on the video, it has, like, a white energy coming off of the orb. I mean, it's just. I don't even know how to explain it if anybody's a welder. The weld. How it just kind of is sporadic and it's just kind of all over the place. That's the only thing I kind of compare it to. It's not like a solid ball of light. You can see how this energy that it's giving off all around it is making the clouds around it light up. It looks white, but it's almost like a rainbow effect of colors. Once I looked into it, this is something that's been going on since 1857. They call it the Lake Erie lights. And even before 1857, the Indians that were up here in Northern Ohio, they have stories about these lights. They called them the wizard lights. And also there's the Hessdalen lights in Norway is the same exact thing that I saw. They happen every single night. They've been studying this since the 80s, I want to say. And it's a town of 120 people. And they actually built a facility there just to study these lights, this phenomena that's been going on there. The light source from these is no known military aircraft or any kind of aircraft. So these are happening every single day in Norway. But anyways, this has been on the History Channel. There's actually a guy named Michael Lee Hill who was on the History Channel. He's been documenting this since 2007. There's been people that call into the radio stations up here in Northern Ohio about this phenomenon. These lights are just bizarre. Yeah, thanks, man. I appreciate it. Love your show. I've been listening to you for years and years now. Thanks, man.
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Thank you, Logan. You know, it pays to look up. I've always said that. And it's not lost on me that these strange lights seem to focus on a nuclear reactor site. We've heard that detail many times before. And for the craft to be a massive triangle floating in the sky, we've heard that one, too. Now I can't find an email from Logan, so I don't have the video that he's referencing. But if you're listening Logan, send them in. If you need to text him to me, shoot me an email and I'll get you set up. And if these photos do arrive, I'll post them up in the Show Notes lickety split. But in the meantime, Connor found a video from another witness that seems to describe what Logan saw. Head on over to the Show Notes and take a look and tell us what you think. Thanks again Logan for taking the time to call.
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Now, seeing a strange white light in the sky is one thing, but what do you do when it's in your backyard? Please welcome another anonymous caller, this time out of Utah.
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Hi Derek, I'd like to remain anonymous for this call. So time was between about 8 or 9 o' clock in October of 2023 and I was in my backyard in Provo, Utah. I looked towards the north so from my backyard I can see about eight houses lined up. I'M in a suburban area. So I looked, and about two houses north of me, I saw a white mass of light. And it was an orb and like spherical shape. At first I thought it was a drone because I love seeing drones. And like, that's just where my mind went to. I thought it was a drone. As I continued watching it, though, I just became aware that it wasn't really a drone. I don't know what it was. I've looked at drone websites and hobbyist websites to try and figure out what it could be. But this orb of light, I'd say was about the size of a basketball, but just completely made of light. Illuminous and yeah, just made of light. And that's what really got me was how spherical it actually was emitting light. And it didn't have any discernible features. It didn't have a rudder, it didn't have like wings. It didn't have anything that looked like a drone. And you would think that you'd be able to see like, with that much light, you'd be able to see some discernible features, but there was none. And looking at all the hobbyist websites, it said that most drones usually have like a secondary colored light to like show that it's a drone for identification. This didn't have that. It was a solid map of white. I mean, if it was led, it was crazy how strong the LED was, but it was that type of white light. That's how I would describe it. This is my story. Thank you. Bye.
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Thank you, caller. Well, whatever it was you saw, you weren't the only one to have done so. Please welcome this anonymous caller with a very similar story.
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Hello, Derek, have a story to tell you. Something that happened to me, like within the last year or so. I was over at a friend's house and left her home around 12:30 to 1:00am in the morning. So we walked out together. She was going to walk me to my car, as she usually does. As we were walking down the sidewalk. It's, you know, kind of like a cold night. Streets were all deserted. My car was parked on the sidewalk just a little bit down the road. Just then as we were walking, there's a wall of white light that came out from behind somebody's house, kind of in between the houses kind of floated around, rooftop height, kind of bobbed around a little bit, and it was just a ball of pure white light between the size of a tennis ball and a softball. And then kind of dipped a little bit, kind of went back up again and the first thing I thought about was, well, maybe it's a drone. But it wasn't a drone as we kind of just looked at it. And then it started to just float along there and then it went towards the sidewalk and then it kind of went sort of behind a tree and it kind of dropped down. And then as it dropped down, kind of just disappeared. And then I went over there and I just looked at it, looked at the ground and nothing there on the ground or anything like that. So never seen anything like that. I know there's ball lightning, but you know, she saw it also and I just confirmed it with her and I said, did you just see that? She's like, yeah, she didn't want to talk about it though. Kind of superstitious, you know, so I've never seen anything like that. But anyway, I just wanted to tell you. Thanks, Derek. Bye.
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Thank you, caller. Well, from outside to the inside, let's hear what it's like to have one of these weird white things inside your house. Please welcome our third anonymous caller in a row, this time out of Arizona.
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Hello, Derek, I won't keep my name anonymous, but I'm calling from Phoenix, Arizona. And this happened when I was about 10 or 12 years old, old enough that I remember it pretty clearly. It was middle of the night and I went out to the kitchen to get a glass of water, was at my parents house and I walked into the kitchen and there was a floating orb of white light in the kitchen, was not touching the floor, was not touching the ceiling or any of the walls. It was about the size of a basketball, like very clearly round. And it sat there for a second and then it shot at extreme speed into the next room. It did not appear to be something like a projected light coming in from outside or anything. It was very clearly floating in the center of the room, not touching any walls or coming from any windows or the floor or the ceiling. And then when I checked the next room, after it shot into the next room, there was nothing in there whatsoever. I enjoy these kind of stories, but I'm a very skeptical person. But I have absolutely no explanation for what that possibly could have been. And I actually have secondary confirmation of it happening because my mother remembers that happening too because she came out front, you know, just kind of being like, oh, what are you doing awake? And she remembers me telling her that she mentioned it the other day without any provocation. And that's why I decided to call. Like I said, I have absolutely no explanation for what that could have been. Big fan of the show. Bye.
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Thank you caller. Gotta be ball lightning, right? I shuddered to think of what else these things could have been.
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Their games on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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Now? We started the show with a woman in white, so let's work our way back to that subject. Please welcome Tim out of the state of Oklahoma.
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Hey Derek. My name is Tim. I reside in Oklahoma now, but I grew up in Massachusetts on the north shore, a little town called Middleton. My story took place somewhere between 19992001 when I was like 14, 16 years old before I got a license. I had a friend of mine, my best friend, sleeping over spending the night. And I had another friend in town who lived a little over a mile away. She would like rollerblade or take her bike over and we just hang out late into the night doing dumb teenage stuff. My parents house where we were, it borders conservation land so there's not a lot of foot traffic. Rarely like you'll see people maybe walking their dogs or going for like a jog in the morning when it's light. But to see Anyone at night, just where it was located. It was very rare, not impossible. I think in my over 30 years of living there, I've only seen two people walking the road and one was always my neighbor walking his dog at night. But from my parents yard you could see like this t intersection. So if you're leaving my parents house, you could pull on the road, there's a stop sign, you go straight through. And that's where we had our encounter at the stop sign. If you went right, it went up this hill and continued onto the main road. But we were in the front yard playing with a hacky sack, just joking around. I punted the thing from the yard and it arched over the road and landed on the other side in the bushes. So I ran over to go find it. And there's no sidewalks there. They put some sense. But at this time there are no sidewalks. There weren't really a lot of street lights that were bright or anything. It was kind of dimly lit, that whole area. But going through the bushes looking for the hacky sack, and I noticed something in my peripheral coming down the hill towards the stop sign. It caught my attention, so I looked up and the best way I can describe it, it was like a woman. Imagine like an older woman wearing an all white tracksuit with short hair, but she was very. It wasn't a solid figure, it was like wispy or smoky. Like you could tell it was a person, but you couldn't see legs moving and it just kind of glided down the hill. So when I saw it, I was like, you know, what is that? Because it's like a person, but it's not. So I'm rubbing my eyes, I'm squinting at it, and before I could even say anything, one of my friends goes, what the heck is that? So now we're all looking at it and it comes down the hill to the stop sign and just stops. Almost as if it's like catching our attention. And what's messed up was even though we were looking at its left profile, its head was turned away from us. We never saw its face. The head was always turned completely opposite from where we were. So we're all going like, what is this? And then all of a sudden it just starts gliding away. It took a right, so it's going away from us down the road. So, you know, because it's rare to see someone, I kind of shouted out to it. I was like, hey. You know, I wasn't like, you know, like, hey, like scary. I was like, hey, try to get his Attention to look at us, but it didn't even react, just kept gliding away. And the road, it's very snaky from that spot. So there's a lot of bends in it. From like where we were to the first bend in the road is a little over 600ft. And we were probably half that distance away from it, just walking behind it. And when it got to the corner, it stopped and like waited for us to get closer. And then as soon as like we were close enough, it started moving again around the bend. Now the second bend, probably around 550ft from that bend to the next bend in the road, like it had just gone around the corner. And when we get to that first corner, it's all the way at the other bend, just stopped, like waiting for us. So we start like power walking, slash a little bit, running towards it and same thing again. It waited for us to get close enough and then it moved around the bend. And that one for the next one is about same thing, 500ft, exact same thing again. It goes around the corner as soon as we get close enough and then it's all the way at the other end, like traveling hundreds of feet in seconds. There's another bend in the road, not too big. It's probably like 200, 250ft. Same thing again. It waited for us to get close, disappeared around the corner. Now we started running at it, running, running, running. And then the next, like the cusp of the road, you can see a good stretch down, that's about 2/10 of a mile. So it's a little over a thousand feet. And we got close enough and this is what blew our minds. It did the same thing again. It went around the corner and as soon as we got there, I'm talking up just a few seconds, it was all the way down to the other bend, over a thousand feet, just completely still. Just stopped again, waiting for us. And we freaked out. We turned around, we started running, screaming. I mean, my eyes were watery, hackles standing up. I kept telling myself, like, don't turn around or it's going to be right behind you, like reaching for you. And we booked it all the way back to my house. And my room had an entrance from the driveway. So we all pile in, slam the door, we're like looking out the little window, waiting to see it again. But yeah, it was one of the most bizarre things. Like in retrospect, you know, it wasn't anything malicious from what I got from it, but it was almost like toying with us. Like maybe playing, but it seemed more like, hey, you want to, you know, follow me? Let me shatter your, you know, concept of reality here. To this day, we still talk about it. My friend who, you know, came over that night, like, we had to wait until the sun came up. And then we walked her home because she was so freaked out. I've shown people that row. We've tried to reenact it. And that one small bend, that's maybe a 200 foot stretch, like, someone could book it at the last second and get close to that, you know, in that amount of time. But, you know, you can see them breathing heavy, you know, heaving and stuff like that. This thing was always still, always just like there. And like I said, like, never. You could see its face. It was always looking away. I've done some, like, quick research over the years because, like I said, it kind of looked like a woman in a tracksuit is like the best way I could describe it. All white. But I've never seen anything that popped out. Like, hey, you know, like a jogger killed on the road or someone on a morning walk. Nothing like a no aha moment for it. So to this day, it's still a mystery. But, yeah, it was wild. Hope you liked the story. Love the show. Thanks for all the good times. Take care.
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Thank you, Tim. A lady in white. A white tracksuit that is. You know, I think I saw that in the original Ghostbusters movie, if I remember correctly. And I love that the entire squad saw whoever, whatever this thing was. Creepy stuff. Any fun story, Tim. So thank you again for making the call. Now, folks, I have time for one more before we take tonight's final break. So please welcome Nate out of the state of Utah.
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Hey, Derek, this is Nate. I'm originally from eastern Idaho, but currently living down in Utah. I'm a truck driver. So first encounter I want to tell you about actually just happened a couple months ago. Started my day out in central Utah area. Driving down a back road. It was about sunrise. Sun was just peeking over the mountaintops, Nothing around me. It was a nice clear day. No wind, no rain, no clouds really. Even out of nowhere on the driver's side of the truck, this amorphous white shape just comes straight towards the truck, straight towards the driver's side. No idea what it was. My brain first said, oh, there's a piece of trash or a sheet or something, just big and white and ominous coming right at the side of the truck. God, it seemed like it was just going to envelop the entire side of the truck. But as soon as it came out the truck, I flinched. Kind of dropped gears, hit the brakes a little bit, and then nothing. It was just gone. The day was just back to normal. I looked around and fully pulled off the side of the shoulder, got out of the truck, thinking I was gonna see some trash or something hooked onto my truck or, you know, underneath the truck. I couldn't find anything. It doesn't sound really disturbing, but it really was. It just kind of threw me off. It almost seemed like it was alive as it was coming at me. Just the way it was kind of undulating in the air. It was big enough where I thought it was going to envelop the whole side of my truck. I don't drive a little truck. I drive a big old Peterbilt. I walked around the entire truck. I couldn't find anything around me. It wasn't a windy day, so there was no trash, no big pieces of plastic blowing around. I was on a country road, you know, Couldn't have been a sheet blowing off a drier line. I mean, it wasn't really the time of year for that Anyways, like I said, it was early spring. You know, it hadn't been snowing. There wasn't any snow on the ground, Only up in the mountains, and I wasn't up in the mountains. So. Yeah, thanks for all you do, Derek. I appreciate you and everything you do, and we'll talk again later. Thanks.
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Thank you, Nate. An amorphous white shape along the highway. I tell ya, truckers have all the fun. No, I can't solve your mystery, Nate, but we sure do appreciate that you shared it. And perhaps we'll get lucky and someone out there listening might know exactly what it was you had a run in with. Until then, big thanks for sharing your story.
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Had senses to my court or some type of. Okay.
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Now, before we wrap things up here tonight, let's visit with a few monsters of the white variety. And here with a bit of a yin and yang situation is Robin out of California.
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Hi, my name is Robin. I'm from Northern California. This story took place over 40 years ago. It is a story from my parents took place in Siskiyou County. My dad was a small town evangelical minister for over 40 years. He was kind of the white sheep of his family. He had some really, really rough, really, really bad people and most of his family that were in some really, really bad things. But like I said, he became a pastor and he was a wonderful, wonderful man. Way back when, I think I was just a baby and I'm in my 40s, but they had my dad's cousin come and stay with my parents for a week or so. He had fallen on hard times and I guess he was a pretty bad man. But he loved my dad. He considered my dad a brother. The whole time he was there, my parents had been talking to him about changing his ways, discussing, you know, in spiritual terms, like saving his soul, changing his life, all of those things. Well, I guess one night it had gotten pretty intense and they were in the midst of these talks and my dad's cousin finally decided that he was going to change. And I guess for lack of a better way to put it, leave the darkness and step into the light. And right at that moment they all heard a huge ruckus in the backyard. It was a small town, but it was still in the city. It wasn't out in the country or anything. In their small backyard, they heard a huge ruckus and they all went running to the sliding glass door. And there was a big black dog and a three legged, big white dog and they were in like a horrific dog fight together. They all watched this happen and all of a sudden the three legged white dog starts getting the best of the black dog and chases the black dog away. Gone. Anyway, they thought that was pretty symbolic and I think it's creepy as hell. But anyway, I grew up hearing that story and I thought maybe that the audience members would enjoy it. Anyway, thanks. Keep it, Suki. Bye.
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Thanks, Robin. You know, I worked in a paint crew in college painting dorm rooms across campus. And we used to take our breaks outside when the weather permitted. Well, on one of those breaks, while painting a house on sorority row at good old Bowling green State University, I saw a white squirrel and a black squirrel meet in the middle of an open yard and commence to battle to what we could only assume was to the death. I kid you not. Each squirrel had his own army of gray or red variety cheering on behind them. A squirrel battle, if you will. It really happened and I wasn't the only one to see it either. Well, from black and white dogs and squirrels to a horse of a neutral color. Please welcome anonymous to the platform.
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Hey. I still want to remain anonymous, but have a lot of stories from my mom and aunt's childhood. This took place in a bit of property. I think it was near Collins or Hattiesburg, Mississippi. So my mom and her sisters grew up as pretty much tomboys. So they're always outside. And of course, they grew up in a very rural setting, so they had a lot of farmland that they helped do chores on. So they've been around a lot of farm animals, horses, pigs, cows, you name it. They grew up with a lot of those, even if my grandparents really didn't have a lot of those. But I remember my aunt telling me a story that back when she was a child, this was probably, I don't know, 60s or 70s, she was doing one of her chores. It was a nice day outside, so she was out, I think, weeding the garden, if I remember right. Just enjoying the time outdoors. She felt a compulsion to look up, and she looked up without any noise, preamble or anything. There stood this majestic white horse. It looked pretty real to her. I think she said it almost had like an ethereal quality to it. And they've been around a lot of farm animals. They Know what's a real horse and what looks a little off? And I think she mentioned that it did look a little off, like it was real but not quite, just more majestic than what you would normally see at the farm. Really beautiful white horse just sitting there staring at her, hardly moving at all. She stared at it for a good bit, it didn't move. After a while she went back to her weeding to try to finish up and maybe a couple minutes go by. She looks up, nothing's there, like it had just disappeared in there. She didn't hear anything go through the woods. And they lived in a big pine tree forest so you would hear something walking through it. So she didn't hear anything, it's just gone. And according to my aunts and my mom, I think they had also seen this white horse on occasion as well. So this wasn't only time. So this was sort of normal for them. I think they called it a ghost horse or something or they thought of it as such. Cause these kind of weird things happening around that property was commonplace to them. And this wasn't the only horse related thing that happened to them around the same time. I think they were all in the house and they hear stampeding of hooves surrounding the house, circling the house and that scared them. They're wondering did somebody's horses get loose or anything and they go outside after hearing all these horses stamping and galloping around. Nothing, absolutely zero. No horses, no nothing out there at all. And nothing moving through the wood which really puzzled them. So all in all I thought that was a cool story to share with you. So anyway, hope you have a good rest of your day. I love your show.
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Thanks for relaying the story caller. Ghost horses. Now there was a video of a ghost horse going around a few years ago. A guy in Florida was live streaming when he saw something strange in his backyard. When he turned the camera to show where he saw it happen, it came by again. And to me it looks like the front lower end of a pale white horse galloping along for a split second before it disappears into the darkness. Now I've linked to that full livestream video in tonight's show notes. And the action begins around the 45 second mark. Now I promise you it's worth a look or two. Trust me and call her. Thank you again for jogging my memory. Alright friends and foes, we're down to one last call, so please welcome SFW to tonight's show.
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This is SFW and this is a story my father told me. The crisp September air is rife with what look to be snowflakes rolling in the sky against the late day sun. They're in abundance enough to create kind of a haze on the horizon, but if you really look at what's floating around in the air, you'll see that it's just corn husks and holes. Because this is Iowa during harvest season, it's also the early 1990s. And all of our free time here is spent outdoors, not in front of a television, Fishing, camping, you name it. We're in the woods. It's how we exist. My mother, the one to teach us how to care for monarch chrysalises and orphan wild animals, and my father, the one to teach us how to pull back the spines of a fish and safely remove a hook before release. You see, in Iowa, the biggest threat we face in Mother Nature are tornadoes. We have no large predators, aside from the occasional rogue mountain lion that the DNR refuses to acknowledge. Sure, there's a tall tale of a rattlesnake or two, but that's most likely just a bull snake. What we do have are corn fields, timber, soybean fields, and an overabundance of white tailed deer. So on this fall day as the sun was setting, my father decides to call his friend Rob and take him out catfishing. They've done it before, and it's just sort of what they do. So Rob and him hop in his truck loaded with the poles, the tackle, maybe a couple cigars to ward off any skeeters. No beer, no drugs. We've got kids at home, just two guys going to sit and sit. Silence near a river and hope to bring in a cat. So just west of our sleepy town, a little north of Des Moines, they get to the Raccoon River, Parking off the side of a bridge, crosses the Raccoon on a nice little gravel road. They start their way to the river, flanked by nothing but dense timbers and cornfields. Getting down to their spot was a little precarious, but they'd been there before, for they liked this spot because it was a little more remote. It's in the country, sure, Interstate 80 is about five minutes off, but still out here allowed for fewer interruptions and pure peace and quiet, or so they had thought. My father recalls they'd been sitting a few feet up off the riverbank among the rocks and trees. The timber here can be very dense, and a couple sycamores and cot would trees make a nice canopy for this wildlife. They sat there in the dark and their lines in the water going on about an hour with not much to be said, which is typical. So out of nowhere, they were both startled when all of a sudden, they heard upstream a very large splash. My dad looked over at Rob, who looked at him in the same fashion again. Being raised in the country, they needed not say a thing to each other. Each other, they both were trying to determine what they had heard crash into the river. They inherently knew it was not the slap of a beaver tail or the plunge of a breaching largemouth. Maybe, though, it was an animal. As they listened, they began to hear loud, labored breathing. The river itself supplies a steady ripple sound, but against that ripple were unmistakable, animalistic, deep, labored exhales. The sound was drawing nearer, and my father and Rob instinctively, slowly picked up their poles and began to reel their lines in. My father says he was entertaining the thought that maybe it was a deer. But, you know, deer are good swimmers. Although uncommon in the water, he had also already decided it probably wasn't a person. And because besides the sound of their breathing, there wasn't a single sound of paddling or thrashing. The only thing he and Rob both knew in these moments was that they didn't know what was floating towards them. So as they sat still in the dark, only tracking the object by ear as it loudly inhaled and exhaled against the water, the current slowly drew whatever it was closer. My father recalls he studied his flashlight, waiting for the moment the object would intersect him before he illuminated it. At this point, my father says he guesses it to be about 15ft out from him. When he clicks his light on, the beam immediately makes contact with what appears to be something the shape of a human head with no ears, covered in white fur, and two large, black, glassy eyes with no shine. He says it looked like white hair, but he believes that's because it was wet. He says it could have been dark, but he just is not sure, because as quickly as his light makes contact, whatever it was dips down under the water. At the same time, without having to converse, my father and Rob both individually decide they're gonna get the heck off that riverbank and back to the truck. Abandoning their poles and their tackle, they make a break, not looking back. My father and Rob scramble through this timber in the same direction that the river is running, hoping not to encounter whatever it is that might be floating alongside them. Finally, they reach the truck, neither saying a word, getting in the cab, starting it up, and heading out. Silence in the truck. Finally, my father says, what was that? To this day, my father can recall these details, like I've said, but has no logical explanation for what they saw or why they both felt they needed to abandon everything and just run. Personally, I like to entertain the idea that they interrupted a Bigfoot enjoying a leisurely float down one of his favorite Iowa rivers. Thanks for listening, Derek. I look forward to every single story.
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Thank you SFW for calling in. And very poetically put. Now, SFW paints a pretty good picture about the location of this sighting, the Raccoon river just west of Des Moines, Iowa. And it's funny SFW should mention the Raccoon River. And it's also funny that a monster was mentioned in the story, because a portion of that very same Raccoon river is infamous for its own mysterious monster. In 1903, in the nearby town of Van Meter, mere miles from where SFW's father had his experience, a flap of sightings turned a tiny frontier town on its head. A local businessman was the first to see it returning home from work late one night. It was perched upon a building described as being battered bird like, with a large wind wingspan and a horn on its head that emitted a vibrant white light. Now the story goes that whatever this thing was, it was finally chased into a nearby coal mine, and that's when the town folks quickly collapsed the entrance, entombing the Van Meter visitor behind tons of earth forever. So I think it's kind of weird that both of these stories stem from the same four or five square miles. Maybe it's just another one of those coincidences that we talked about a bit ago. Or perhaps there's a bigger connection here. Either way, amazing work sfw, and we thank you for calling in. And a big thanks to all of tonight's community contributors. And an even bigger thanks to you for tuning in here tonight, because that's gonna do it for this episode. The Monsters Among Us podcast is written and produced by me, Derek Hayes. Copyright Red Crow Media. Additional support is provided by Sarah Carter Hayes, Delaney Bowers and Connor Ryan. All media used in this production is done so under under the protection of Fair Use. Be sure to like us on our social media pages, give us a like and follow on YouTube, and join us on our Discord server. And while you're at it, leave us a rate and review, wherever that sort of thing is possible. Tonight's score was provided by Iron Cthulhu, Apocalypse Co He Music and Carl Casey and White Bat Audio. Now watch our movie. So I can stop asking you to go to borregotriangle.com for all the info, but for real though it's free on tubi and it's really not that bad. It's the dead of winter, so what else are you doing? And join us in the beyond because there's plenty of stories to go around over there. Visit monsters among us podcast.com and click the Patreon tab for all that info. And lastly, if you have young ones in your life or you just really love scary stories from all different perspectives, check out Monsters Among Us junior. New episodes drop every other Wednesday and it's just like this program. The only difference is the stories come from pint sized witnesses. Now that hotline information if you need it is 83 3. It may you kids or you can email us at monsters among us jrmail.com all right gang, that's it for tonight. But I'll be back on Thursday with a brand new collection of chillers. Hopefully I'll see you then. Until then, however, you keep it spooky. By all means, have a good night. Hey Sal. Hank, what's going on?
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