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- [00:01]
Derek Hayes
It's time for trash day nose yoga with Hefti. Let's transform stinky scenarios with a joyful scent of fabuloso.
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Various Female Callers
Inhale.
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You forgot to empty your kid's lunchbox.
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Derek Hayes
Exhale a field of lavender. Inhale stinky leftovers.
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Various Female Callers
Exhale watermelon in the summer.
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Derek Hayes
That's the power of hefty. Ultra strong trash bags with fabuloso. Calling all sightseers and selfie takers. Welcome to Texas, where a day on our hiking trails will lead to a lifetime of memories. And family road trips become family legends where thrill seekers make a splash into spring fed pools and picky eaters will clean their plates. This is your invitation to visit Texas and see it for yourself. Visit traveltexas.com and plan your family's trip today. Let's Texas. Good evening and welcome to Monsters Among Us. I am your guide, Derek Hayes. Here we go with another thrill filled episode. And this week we're making a trip to one of the most beautiful parts of the country, the pnw, the Pacific Northwest. More specifically, Washington State. That's right. Each of tonight's entries originate out of the Evergreen State. And it won't take long for you to realize that Washington is a weird and wacky place. And to light the fires and kick the tires here. This evening, we start with a gnarly one. Please welcome Ann Marie to the program.
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Ann Marie / Rebecca
Hi, Derek.
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Ann Marie's Cousin / Other Female Caller
This is Ann Marie from Washington. I was just listening to season 19, episode 21 and I heard Ian's story about driving past like a construction site and seeing a man with a hole in his face or, you know, kind of blown off or this dark indent where his face was supposed to be. And it brought to mind an incident that I had when I was a young child, maybe five or six years old, and I was visiting my grandmother's house with my cousin and she lives off the Washington coast, like right on the beach. It was a very small neighborhood in a small town. And so we were walking down the road, there was not a lot of people around. And it was kind of one of those situations where the neighbors knew who everyone was. And so everyone visiting the family at that time felt very safe. Just kind of letting a couple like five, six year old girls, you know, walk up and down the street. I don't even remember what we were doing, but we were coming back to my grandmother's house after having gone for this short little walk. And as we were walking, we hear a car coming up behind us. And it was very slow, maybe 15, 20 miles an hour. And so, because we were so used to this that we both instinctively got off to each side of the road. So my cousin went to the left side and I went to the right. There were no sidewalks or anything. It was just a road kind of surrounded by forests. And then every now and then there's like a little house. So we had done that. And this car goes by, just this very old school metal, brown four door sedan goes by. And I look at it because I didn't recognize the car. And it was such a small town that everybody kind of knew each other and so I did not recognize the car. And I remember being a small kid and looking in to the window and there was this woman driving. I remember thinking in my little kid brain, I just thought like, oh my gosh, she's so beautiful. Like she's so pretty. She had flawless skin and long brown hair and just these really kind and beautiful eyes. And she kind of gave me a little smile and I, of course, you know, was kind of shy. I kind of smiled back. And then she drove off and so that was the end of it. So my cousin and I met back up in the middle of the road at that point because we were walking in the middle of the road like, you know, kids do or whatever, and I said to my cousin, I said, wow, she was really pretty. And my cousin was like, what? What are you talking about? And I was kind of like, yeah, didn't you see her? Did you look in the car? And then I thought, oh, you probably couldn't have seen her because she was looking at me. So her head was turned and she was looking at me. And my cousin said, no, she was looking at me and she wasn't pretty. And I was like, what are you talking about? And so we were both kind of like freaked out by this because my cousin said, no, it was a mean old lady and she had gray hair and she glaring at me like with this evil, mean snarl on her face. And she was actually scared by this. And so we were already going back to my grandmother's house. So, you know, she felt a little better knowing that she wasn't going to have to, you know, stay and talk to this lady or anything like that. But she was genuinely freaked out by it. And I was so confused because I just kept saying, there's no way that you saw her face because she was facing me. She was looking out the window of her car and she was looking directly at me. And my cousin swears that the woman was not young, that she was not Pretty and that she was not looking at me out the window, but that her face was turned out the driver's side window and that she was glaring at her. Ian's story reminded me of this incident and I just thought I would call in and see if anyone else has anything similar. We called her the Two Faced Lady. For years after that, we never saw her again. So I have no idea what that was about. I just remember it pretty clearly. So I'm going to reach out to my cousin and see if she remembers and try to get her side of the story. Anyway, keep up the great work. Still loving the show. It's been years. We're really glad for all the work that you guys put into it. Thanks.
- [06:35]
Derek Hayes
Thank you, Anne Marie, for that unsettling entry, the Two Faced Lady. You know, I'd love to hear the cousin's version of this story if you can convince her to ring in. And I'm not sure what to make of this one. Was she wearing a mask of some sort that was only visible from a certain angle, or was a window glare at work here? Something's not adding up either way. What a weird way to kick things off here tonight. And we're going to keep that magic going with this entry from Thomas.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
Hey, this is Thomas in Washington State, longtime listener, first time caller. Something happened to me when I was about five years old and I didn't know how to even describe it until I started listening to your podcast and realized there's a lot of people that have had the same experience. And this phenomenon has come to be known as shadow people. Now, when I was like five years old, we moved into the new house and the first experience I had, it wasn't in the middle of the night and I wasn't alone. It actually happened while I was watching TV with my family in the living room. Everyone was there, but I was the only one seeing it. And what I saw was this shadowy figure, the outline of a man, and he was standing in the shadows of the kitchen, I don't know, probably 30ft from where we were sitting in the living room. And I could see that he was peeking around the corner. And it freaked me out. I tried to get my parents to see what I was talking about. We went in there and turned the light on. There was nothing there. And then I thought nothing of it. And since then, it happened again in that house a few months after that. It was in the middle of the night, I'd woken up and I saw two shadow people. That's what we want to call them and it seemed like they were talking to each other about me and I couldn't figure out what they were saying but they were not far from where I was. This happened to me two more times. The last time it happened I was 12 and I was at a friend's house actually I was sleeping on the floor and I woke up in the middle of the night and I actually saw this shadow figure walk into the room and stand at the foot of the bed where I was sleeping. And of course, as you can imagine, any 12 year old, it freaked me out. I tried not to move and waited for it to go in and it didn't. I eventually fell back asleep.
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Various Female Callers
Anyway.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
I love the podcast man. I have a lot of weird things that have happened to me and my family. I'll definitely call them again. Thanks again.
- [09:22]
Derek Hayes
Thank you Thomas. Those pesky shadow entities. Even the flag state seems to be plagued with them. And that's not all they're plagued with, as you're about to hear this evening. But first we have to take tonight's first AD break. But don't worry, I'll be right back.
- [09:45]
Guest Callers / Mike
No decision at this point has been made. With respect,
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Derek Hayes
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- [11:29]
Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
There is no problem with sources and methods.
- [11:36]
Derek Hayes
Now, before we move on, a little background on the state of Washington. It's the 13th most populated state with about 8 million residents. Washington was the 42nd state admitted to the Union back on November 11, 1889. It's the only state named after a president and I'll let you guess which one. And it's home to three national parks, Mount Rainier, Olympic and North Cascades. And home to 143 state parks and nine national forests. That's plenty of dark places for mystery to hide. And to further that point, please welcome Anonymous to the airwaves.
- [12:24]
Various Female Callers
I'm calling from Washington State. I had a couple of weird experiences in my life, but this one is one of my favorites and it definitely seemed paranormal. This is one of a couple different weird things that happened in this apartment. This happened my sophomore year of college. So I was living in an older apartment in northern Washington with four other women. And this apartment was kind of run down and it was on the second story of I think a three story apartment complex. So there were four bedrooms in this apartment. It was kind of shaped like a square kind of one half you can imagine, you walk in, there's a kitchen and a living room straight ahead. And then the other half were four bedrooms all in a row and some bathrooms. So one of our roommates bedrooms was shared with the kitchen wall. So this particular weekend all of our roommates were gone except for one. So it was just me and one roommate. We were sitting at the kitchen table just trying to figure out, you know, what to do with ourselves this weekend. And we had this like four person kitchen table, normal height. I was sitting with my back to that shared wall and she was sitting, I don't know, across from me or next to me. We were just kind of hanging out. I think it's probably like before dinner time ish, or right around dinner time, but it's Washington so it was dark at this time. I think it might have been the winter. All of a sudden out of nowhere, we just hear this large bang come from behind me, like someone punched or slammed against the wall. From inside my roommate's room. Almost sounded like a kick even or just a super large punch. My back was to that wall and it was so loud that I instinctively flexed forward and arched my back and jumped forward in my chair towards the table. And my roommate also jumped a little bit sitting in the chair she was sitting in. We were like, what the heck because we knew no one was home. And we knew that that roommate had closed her door and locked her window because she was just pretty darn secure when she would leave for the weekend. So it did sound like someone was in the room who just punched the wall. It sounded like it came with force. Like it couldn't have been something that just like fell off the dresser or something like that. So we were a little bit confused and we thought maybe someone broke in through the window. So we grabbed, I think, some kitchen knives and we went and checked it out. So we walked on over to the room and I opened the door super slowly and no one was in there, but it was freezing. Like, the window had been closed and locked all day, but the room itself was noticeably colder than all the other rooms in the house. And, like, when I opened the door, it was like a rush of cold. And my roommate and I were getting kind of freaked out at this point. We were worried that someone was squatting. And when no one was in there, we became a little bit more worried. We were like, what was that? So we closed the door and we walked outside, contemplated what to do. And we called some friends to come over and check it out. They walked into the room a little bit more fearlessly than we did. But the first thing they did notice was the cold. And then they pointed out that there were footprints on the wall. They saw that they were kind of like child sized footprints super high above the dresser, above the bed, and above an empty wal. So one of the weird things is that all the footprints were horizontal. Kind of like someone was running around the room on the walls. You know, it couldn't have been that my roommate was laying on her back and putting her feet up on the bed, because that would be a vertical footprint. They were all horizontal. And they were also all child size. My roommate, who lived there at the time, who was gone, had like a size women's 8 or 9 shoe. These footprints were small, like maybe the smallest women's size, if not youth. So that was super weird. And after that, we closed the door and I think we like locked it or we put something in front of it and we left the apartment and we contemplated life. And then we slept in the living room because we were too afraid to sleep apart. And that was kind of the end of that. When our roommate came back, we told her, but she was a total skeptic. And there's been a couple other things that we thought were happening, but she thought we were crazy. And it was kind of an ongoing joke between us that she didn't believe in anything paranormal. And so she just kept on living her life, and we completely avoided that room for most of the rest of the leaf. Love your podcast. Bye.
- [16:46]
Derek Hayes
Thank you. Caller. Look, explaining away mysterious bangs on the wall isn't impossible. The house settling could cause loud popping sounds. Things fall over, things break on their own, put footprints on the wall. Well, it's much more difficult to explain away, and I'm not sure what to make of that, but I can tell you that it makes for a creepy entry, caller. So thank you again for taking the time to call in. Now, if you think ghosts banging and walking on the walls is an invasion of privacy, just wait until you hear what happened to Heidi. Her tale is up next.
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Heidi
Hey, Derek, My name's Heidi. I live in Seattle, Washington. So I wanted to tell you about the one experience in my life that I think actually could be paranormal. So this took place in Seattle in either 1994 or 1995. I was in a coffee shop, and it was an old building. And this particular coffee shop was one where it was lined with windows on all sides, and it had benches all along the inside of two walls. And they had stools, like, lining those two walls so people could sit there and drink their coffee and look out the window and read their books and stuff. So that's what I was doing, sitting on a stool. It was one of those high stools reading my book. And all of a sudden, I felt. It was like someone was standing right behind me, immediately behind me and blowing on the back of my neck, like an inch or two away from my neck, like this really strong, like, right on my hairline. And I had super short hair at the time. So, you know, it was, like, right against my skin. So I whip around immediately after this happened. Like, I whipped around with less than a second, and there was no one there. And I'm just like, what the heck just happened? I look around. There's no one, you know, like, moving quickly away from me as if they had just done that and were, like, trying to pretend they didn't. Everyone was kind of, like, doing their own thing, sitting at tables behind me. There was nobody that, you know, could have done this. And I was just completely baffled. I look around, I look up at the ceiling. Is there maybe a vent or something that could have suddenly blown some air? And maybe that's what it was. Nothing like that. It was just the weirdest thing. I spent probably 10, 15 minutes just kind of, like, sitting there trying to process it and looking around, thinking what was that? It was someone standing directly behind me, blowing hard against my neck. I don't really know history of the building, although it was an old building, like I said, I don't know particular history of it doesn't exist anymore. So, yeah, I don't know. It's one of those really weird, unexplainable things. I think it was a ghost. I don't know. It was the only thing that's ever happened to me like that. Although I'm very interested in the paranormal. Yeah. Love the show, Derek. Can't wait to hear more episodes.
- [20:29]
Derek Hayes
We appreciate the entry, Heidi. About 10 years ago, I did a tour of the Seattle underground. Just like its neighbor, Portland, Seattle, too is built over a series of tunnels. Tunnels that at one time were crawling with the dregs of society. Tunnels that I'm sure are haunted to this day. So maybe that coffee shop was built for one of these infamous passageways. That sure could explain the strange activity. And speaking of coffee shops in Seattle, the largest coffee chain in the world, Starbucks, was famously founded in 1971 at Pike's Place Market in Seattle, Washington. Now, gang, if you have a call you would like to make a story you would like to share, give our hotline a call at 888-608-NIGHT. That's 888608 N I G H T. Or you can record your story and send the file to me at monsters among us podcastmail.com and a little reminder, if you have a youngster with a story they'd like to share, have them call the monsters among us junior hotline at 833 MAU kids. And it goes without saying that you should give Monsters Among Us Junior a listen today if you haven't already. Now with a topic we've heard a lot about over the years, please welcome Rebecca to tonight's show.
- [22:12]
Ann Marie / Rebecca
Hi Derek, this is Rebecca from Seattle. I'm calling in reference to season 13, episode 15, the bonus call that you included. But I also listened to the Patreon episode about this topic which was there was a man who can see his room with his eyes closed. So in his story he alluded to being asleep and being able to see this and some of the other folks explanations seem to give possibly some good explanations as to what might be happening to him. But for me, it happens to me occasionally. I would say over the last five years, it's happened to me a handful of times where I'll be in bed either dozing off or just happen to close my eyes, ready to doze off and I can see the room through my eyelids or I'll wake up and I can see the room through my eyelids. And what's interesting about this, there's two things. One is it's not like I can see the room in full color or darkness and make things out. It's almost like I can see through my eyelids, which would have a reddish pink hue. I feel like I am seeing through my eyelids. So it's not like when my eyes are open and everything's crisp and clear. So that's one interesting aspect that it didn't sound like most other folks were saying that they could see. The other thing is I know I'm awake. It's not sleep paralysis. I have experienced sleep paralysis many times, but this is different. I'm very awake. It's like the fact when that starts to happen, I'm even more awake and I'm like, okay, this is really happening. And I'll like look around, you know, move my eyes around, look around. And sometimes I've opened them and closed them again and it's happened, it's still there. Most of the time I think to myself, okay, now what? Because like other folks have said, there isn't a presence or anything else. It's just you can see through your eyelids. The one thing the original caller mentioned was when that happens to him the next day, he has really good luck. There's no correlation for me in that way. And I didn't notice that in anyone else's call either. So I thought that was an interesting aspect of his story. When I first heard his story, there was a moment of like, what? Because I've never told anyone this. I still haven't except for this call. And so it was just this moment of like, I thought I was the only one. And it's really fascinating that someone else has a similar story. So thanks for all your due. I'll call back another time.
- [25:07]
Derek Hayes
Thank you, Rebecca. I too had a moment of what regarding this phenomenon. Well, after the special episode Rebecca is talking about, which was season 15, episode 26, by the way, someone, and forgive me for not remembering who mentioned that seeing through closed eyes is simply an out of body experience or at the very least, remote viewing. Either way, it was suggested that these two psychic abilities were to blame for this odd talent. And boy, did that make a lot of sense when I first heard it. Of course, we're explaining one mystery with another here. But despite that, this all checks a lot of boxes. That is if you believe in such a thing. And let me Remind you that for nearly a decade the US government publicly believed in all of this. They likely still believe, just not so much publicly these days, but crazy stuff. Rebecca, we thank you again for ringing in. Now let's work in one more story before we're forced to take the next break. So if you would please welcome Stephanie to the program.
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Various Female Callers
Hi Derek, my name is Stephanie and I'm calling from Wenatchee, Washington. I just wanted to tell you a quick story that just happened to me as I was driving home. This happened on a Thursday at 7:30 in the evening. I was going about 50 miles an hour. I was in a dead zone where I'd have no cell service and there was a car behind me and a cat darted out in front of my car with a death wish. I don't remember turning the wheel to avoid the cat and I don't remember jerking the wheel again to avoid going off into a ravine. Somehow I did both and the cat made it safely across the road. I don't know if I can chalk this up to really good reflexes or something a little bit higher power. I am grateful I made it home though. Hopefully you can use this.
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Derek Hayes
Thanks Stephanie for the phone call. Just like seeing through closed eyelids, guardian angel stories are abundant here on the program as well. And many of them go exactly like Stephanie's. Here, dad. Now, we're glad to hear both you and the kitty were okay, Stephanie. And we're also glad you could share this experience here with us. So thank you again for making the call.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
Your physical limitations.
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Derek Hayes
Are you really buying a car online
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Ann Marie's Cousin / Other Female Caller
on Autotrader right now?
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Various Female Callers
Really? I can get super specific with dealer listings and see cars based on my budget.
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Ann Marie's Cousin / Other Female Caller
You can really have it delivered or pick it up.
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Derek Hayes
I think kid is walking up the slide.
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Ann Marie's Cousin / Other Female Caller
Really?
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Various Female Callers
Autotrader buy your car online? Really?
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Derek Hayes
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Various Female Callers
Hey Derek, my name is Felicia. I'm from Seattle, Washington. I had A amazing animal named Kane. It was a dog and he has been passed about a year and a half now. And when he first passed away, I would feel him jump up on our bed and I could feel his paws like stepping towards me. And I honestly just had such great comfort with it. I loved it. I would tell him good night and we ended up getting a puppy a couple months after he passed. And one night I thought that my puppy jumped on the bed and I was like, oh, hey Eisen, that's our new puppy's name. And when I looked there was nothing there. And so I was like, aww, my little dog Kane is still around and probably hopefully properly treating my puppy. I don't feel his presence too much anymore, but I absolutely love it when I can feel the footsteps coming up towards me on the bed or laying next to me, to my leg laying beside me. I also used to catch glimpses of like a black shadow walk across the kitchen. And I always carry his little necklace that I got made with his paw print cremation. And I do feel like he stays with me, he stays around me. Just maybe not so active anymore. But anyways, I just wanted to call in and tell you my story because I know you're always talking about your cat and how you wish that you
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could feel the presence around you.
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And some of the people that call in, I've heard them kind of be creeped out by it, but I absolutely love animal ghosts. Love your podcast, love listening, and I hope you have a great day.
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Derek Hayes
Thank you, Felicia. They just don't live long enough. And while my cat Annabelle has yet to make her presence known in spirit form, her presence is certainly felt in the two cats that we've adopted since losing her. Josephine and Penelope. And Josie grew up to be a near identical match to Annabelle, at least in physical appearance, down to the same tiny tuft of white fur in the center of her chest. I'll put a couple side by side photos up in the shoutouts. Tell me it's not weird how similar the two look. Anyway, we'd do anything for our pets, Felicia, and it seems our pets will do anything for us, even coming back from the other side. So thank you for the touching tale. And speaking of pets, let's bring in the second animal related call that I have for you here this evening. Shelly, come on in and share your experience.
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Various Female Callers
Hi Monsters Among Us team. My name is Shelley. We are in Southwest Washington State. My paranormal experiences have generally come in the form of dreams. I've had four distinct dreams that I know about with family members who have passed on. The most recent one was with my dog Moo. We had this wonderful little cattle dog mix named Daphne, also known as Moo. We just lost her mid October due to irritable bowel disease. It was really tough. We basically tried everything we could to save her over the past year but just couldn't do it when we let her go. I whispered in her ear when she went to sleep to come back to me a few days later. I had a dream around 2am where she came to me. I think it was more of a visitation than a dream. I say this because when this happens they are extremely vivid and specific. In this quote dream I am in the corner of a bathroom sitting in a bathtub. I can see that the tub surround is drywall with areas patched. I can see the two walls that meet at the corner when I look in the opposite direction. Right there in the doorway is Moo. She's just standing there looking at me. If you have seen Star wars with Obi Wan, she looked a lot like that with a blue light around her. This reminded me of an experience of a caller in season 10 episode 14 who saw a spirit with yellow light around them. I immediately woke up from this dream completely freaked out because seeing a ghost frankly scares me to death. I then immediately apologized to her and thanked her for coming to see me and then was sorry I freaked myself out and wish I could go back into my quote dream and see her. I woke my husband up and had a really good cry. It's been really hard but I feel like she's okay so that part of this whole thing has been comforting. I have not seen her since.
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The reason that I say this was
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specific is that I don't generally dream about working on my house. We have a 102-year-old Craftsman bungalow that I've been restoring off and on since 2013. She came to live with us as a rescue in 2015. So she's been here the whole time that I've been working on the house and must have known how important and specific it was to me. Perhaps she also knew that Star wars is a favorite thing of ours and was trying not to scare me. Or maybe it's all in my head. I mean, my husband is a complete skeptic, so I'm not 100% sure he believes me. I think he have to see something for himself to even, you know, start to believe. He was supportive, however, and said maybe in any case it has helped me heal. I still really miss her but the hole in my heart is slowly mending. Thank you for all you and the Monsters Among Us team does. We appreciate the entertainment and the platform you provide to tell these stories. Happy New Year, Shelley.
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Derek Hayes
Thank you, Shelley. For a long time now, I've been spreading the gospel about these dream visitations by the recently departed. It seems there's a brief window a week or two after death where they can come back to deliver a message in our sleep. Now, typically when this phenomenon occurs, it's human loved ones that come back oftentimes to give an apology, to share a sentiment, disclose important information, or just to check in on those they left behind. But it's not super often that you hear about a pet coming back during this grace period. So that fact makes this story even more special in my mind. SHELLEY and for that, we thank you for ringing in. Now, folks, time for another quick break, but I'll be right back with a few super unsettling stories out of Washington. Don't touch that. Dial.
- [36:03]
Guest Callers / Mike
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Various Female Callers
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- [36:09]
Bailey
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- [36:11]
Various Female Callers
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- [36:21]
Derek Hayes
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Various Female Callers
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- [36:28]
Derek Hayes
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Bailey
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- [36:37]
Derek Hayes
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- [37:08]
Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
So I didn't need to get on this ladder, Ron.
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Derek Hayes
Now these calls start to get a little gnarly here in the back half. And to prove my point, please welcome Troy to tonight's program.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
Hey Derek, my name's Troy. I'm calling from Yakima, Washington about a sighting I just had. So I moved into an old farmhouse about a year ago. The house I'm in now, it's got three big rooms on the bottom, a couple rooms on top, one bathroom, stairway. It was built in 1912, I think it is. It's over 100 years old. History of the house is it was abandoned for a long time. At one point it was the headquarters for a commune slash local cult. And this is all coming from our neighbor who's like a history buff. Anyway, my sighting tonight is I'm in one of the rooms on the bottom floor playing Tung Hawk with my son, listening to the podcast. My wife's just gotten home. She's gotten up the stairs. So because the house is so old, it's got like wooden floors, it creaks a lot. When you walk, you hear it. So I can hear my wife go up the stairs and you can hear her, me or my son coming down the stairs quite easily. So my wife's gone up the stairs. She has not come down the stairs yet. And the lights in the room were in, were dark, almost up to the tv. The room to our left, one of the big three rooms on the bottom is our dining room. And that light's on. We have four cats. None of the cats reacted to this as far as I know. But all of a sudden something like comes into my peripheral vision for playing our game. And I look because I think it's like maybe my wife checking in on us because she just got home, you know, and it's like this ill defined face of a woman. And as soon as I look at it, it doesn't disappear, but the face kind of goes back around the corner, almost like, oh, I see what I wanted to see. I'm gonna go make dinner or something, right? And it's not just like I saw it in the corner of my eye. Like I looked directly at it. And I realize I have not heard my wife come down the stairs. And about five minutes later or so, I hear my wife coming down the stairs. So this just happened. This ghost, or whatever you want to call it, was apparently very interested in our game of Tony Hawk because it looked in on us. Thank you for running the podcast. Me and my son love listening to it. Keep it spooky.
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Derek Hayes
Thanks, Troy. Something I often think about is if ghosts are real and they can interact with us in our current environment, they must be mind boggled by the advances in technology. Try explaining high def television to an 18th century housewife or an iPhone 18 to a little boy that drowned in a well hundreds of years ago. So maybe it was a little bit of that, Troy. Maybe you hit the nail right on the head and the entity was indeed interested in the game that you and your son were playing. It makes perfect sense to me. Thank you again sir for sharing your experience. Now gang, don't forget about our merchandise shop. If you are looking for more ways to support the program, it's the perfect way to do it. Tons of gear designed by real artists, printed by real people, shipped by a human being and mailed directly to your doorstep. Shirts, hats, pins, patches, stickers. You name it, we probably have it. Just visit monsters among us podcast.com and click that Shop tab now. Up next, we hear from Sarah down in Hawaii.
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Various Female Callers
My name is Sarah and I currently live in Maui, Hawaii. The story I have takes place not in Maui, although I've lived here for 20 years. Prior to living in Maui, I lived in Washington State and I lived in an old Victorian home there. I have many stories, but one that immediately surfaced to the top of my brain when I was listening to your podcast was there was one morning I woke up, I was maybe 21, 22 years old, woke up in an old Victorian home that I rented with my friends. I went to drive my boyfriend to work early in the morning, 6am, came
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back from work, crawled back into bed
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and I did not have a chance to fall asleep. I had driven. I didn't have any coffee, but I had driven. So I was awake and I came back and I just wanted to lay down for a little while and as soon as my brain started to shift a little bit, I felt something tugging at my foot and in my sleepy grogginess I reached out and I kicked it. Whatever it was. I was like, leave me alone, I'm trying to sleep, I'm tired. And it tried again. I said leave me alone. I kicked my foot to get it off of me and I peeked through my eyes and it was being about less than 3ft tall, brown. I couldn't tell if it was wearing clothing. It didn't look like it was wrinkly body like it looked like what you would imagine, a gray alien but brown. And its eyes were smaller. I can't quite explain it, it had no emotions and it was just intent on bothering me or getting me to come with it. And I just was not in the mood because I was tired and I needed a little more sleep.
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So I kept kicking it off and
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kicking it off and I just said leave me alone, try to sleep and kicked it away and put the covers back over my head and I don't think I actually went back to sleep. I think that it all happened in a moment to where when I finally realized clicked into reality what had actually happened. I couldn't go back to sleep. I just laid there with my head under the blanket, like, did that just really happen? And it's been over 20 years now, and I pretty much put it in the back of my brain and forgotten about it. But listening to some of your stories reminded me of that incident. And I mean, I wholeheartedly believe that that was a physical creature that I was kicking telling me to leave me alone so I can try to get some sleep. Thank you so much for your podcast.
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Derek Hayes
Thank you, Sarah. What do you think here, folks? Sleep paralysis? A hallucination of some sort? Was it all in Sarah's imagination? Or was this truly a ghostly entity? Or is it possible that this was maybe a fragment of a memory lost to an alien abduction experience? Sarah merely got a glimpse of what really took place. Now, we've heard other tales of frogman or lizardman or toadman in children's bedrooms, and if those cases hinted towards some sort of abduction experience, then perhaps this one does as well. Amazing stuff, Sarah, and we thank you again for calling in. Now, when you think of Washington, you're likely to think of lumberjacks as the second largest producer of softwood lumber in the U.S. the state is full of them. Now this next call doesn't necessarily feature a lumberjack, but it does feature a well known entity that shares a similar uniform. Please welcome Bailey to the program.
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Bailey
Hi Derek, this is bailey from Spokane, Washington. So when I was probably like 14, 15, we were up camping with our family. It was like our whole family. There's a campground outside of Northport, Washington. It's like three miles from the Canadian border and they used to have like a town wide garage sale. So we were going into town from the campground to go to the big garage sale deal. It was my mom, my aunt and one of my brothers and a couple of my cousins. And as we were driving, there was a woman. She wasn't hitchhiking, but she was walking along the side of the road. She had short hair, very skinny, very pale, and she had like a flannel shirt on over a white shirt, jeans, just very dirty looking. And she was carrying a red gas can. And so my mom pulled over and she's like, hey, do you need a ride into town? Because it was just a couple miles up the road and she didn't say anything, she just nodded. So she got in the back and she smelled but she didn't say anything. Like we tried to talk to her and she wouldn't speak, she would just nod or shake her head. So we went into Northport and we dropped her off at the gas station. And as soon as she got out, well, I turned around and I looked and she was gone. Like, she was not filling up her gas can. She wasn't just standing there somewhere. She just totally vanished, which was weird because it's kind of like an open area. She couldn't have just like went into the gas station that quickly. And there's no other areas for her to go. So anyway, we'd go to the yard sale stuff and, you know, we do our shopping and we're heading back to the campground. And as we're driving back, this woman is exactly in the same spot where we picked her up, walking back to town with her gas can again. And she didn't look at us, Nothing, no wave. And it was just really weird. And we all kind of, like, looked at each other like, okay, that was odd. Like, what are the chances? So I kind of think that we picked up a ghost and gave her a ride to the gas station. I have been trying to, like, look up missing people up there recently, see if I could see a photo or something that might look like her. I haven't had any luck, but apparently there was like a mass murderer that was like hiding bodies up there. So who really knows? I had no idea until just like a couple days ago when I was looking this up. So, yeah, pretty spooky. Anyway, thank you. Bye.
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Derek Hayes
Thank you, Bailey. It might have been a ghost, but it also could have been the female version of the infamous Flannel man phenomenon. A flannel woman, if you will. Now, if you're not familiar with the Flannel Man, I suggest you do a deep dive and I suggest you start with the Strange Familiars podcast. There's a link in the show notes if you need a head start. And thank you again, Bailey, for introducing us to that wild story.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
At some point in your career, you have to accept.
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Derek Hayes
Now back to the action and back to the phone calls. And this time we hear from Angie.
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Various Female Callers
Hi, Derek.
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My name is Angie. I live in Olympia, Washington, and I live with listening to your podcast a few days ago where someone heard a mechanical growl in the woods behind their house. Well, I heard the exact same thing. It really freaked me out. My cousin was visiting from Canada, and we were in the backyard around 11 o' clock at night, and it was close to summer, I'd say probably late June. And I was going to let my dog out for the night to use the bathroom. And when I went out with her, we heard this crazy Mechanical growl, scream. It was basically like your caller described. And I had never heard anybody else say that they had seen or heard that same thing. So I don't know. Could be Bigfoot. Could be not. It really freaked me out, though. It freaked my dog out. She wouldn't go outside. And when I heard that growl, it's like chills went up my spine. Like it just. Something in my body was like, don't go out there. It was really weird.
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Freaked me out.
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I only heard it that one time.
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And I grew up in this area and about 2 acres of wood, so
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I've heard things like cougars and coyotes and bears and stuff, and owls. And none of those sounded like what I heard. It legitimately sounded like it was a mechanical growl. So anyway, I just wanted to let your caller know that she's not alone. And I heard it too. Thank you for all you do, Derek. Thanks for giving us a space to talk about all of our creepy stuff. It makes us feel not as alone. Take care. Bye.
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Derek Hayes
Thank you, Angie. You know, Bigfoot is certainly big in Washington, so you're right to suggest that monster, Angie. But you know what else is big in Washington? UFOs. In fact, the very first modern day flying saucer report came out of Washington. And the state ranks third in the country for sightings, according to the National UFO Reporting Center. And given that the sound you heard was mechanical in nature, Angie, I feel like a strange craft can't be ruled out here. And I bet a few of you are curious as to what the top 10 cities in Washington are in regards to UFO sightings. Well, that list goes as follows. According to newfork. At number 10 is Bremerton. Number nine is Bellevue. Number eight is Olympia. And number seven is Yakima. Number six is Bellingham. Number five is Everett. Number four is Tacoma. Coming in at three is Vancouver. Number two is Spokane. And the city with the most UFO sightings in the state of Washington is, of course, Seattle. Well, your guess is as good as mine here, Angie, but given the weirdness that goes on up there, I'd say it could have been anything. But thank you again for sharing the experience here with us. Now, up next is a call from Trevor. Please welcome him to the program.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
Hey, Dick, this is Trevor. I'm in Washington State. This story took place in Mineral, Washington, up by Mount Rainier. I talked to a buddy about it to remember what the hell happened, but it was at his house. Super, super old house up on the river. And we were probably around 12 years old. I'm 35 now. So we're out. We're gonna camp and party out by the river. And it's probably 100ft away from his house. And we were back and forth, back and forth. And no one's home. Just three of us kids. And I looked up at the attic window. I just see a reflection. It just looks like the sky. Like, blue and gray, kind of like clouds. I look at it again when I was walking by for the second time, and it, like, took the shape of a body, and it was kind of waving back and forth, you know, kind of looking. It looks like it was looking. It looked kind of like the sky, like through the trees kind of reflection. So I asked my buddy. I'm like, what does that look like to you? And he didn't see anything. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. And I was like, you look. It's got your silhouette from, like, the waist up, and it looks like it's just staring out the window and swaying back and forth. So I chalked it up to his reflection. I just saw myself in the reflection. We just hung out that night, sat by the fire and all that. So probably one to two years later, same thing. Now we're a little bit older. No one's in the house. And we're walking, and I see the exact same thing again. And I grabbed my buddy. Same buddy. And I'm like, dude, what do you see? And he's like, holy crap, I see it this time. And we're staring at it, and I'm like, is there anybody in your house? He's like, no. His dad was actually growing weed up there. And he's like, it's a padlock. You can't get in that attic. And all of a sudden, this thing, we can only see it from the waist up, and it disappeared. And it teleports downstairs. And we can see it walking through the kitchen, both of us. We sprint in there as fast as we can, research every inch of the house. The attic was locked. Never found anything. Thank you very much, man. Keep going. Later.
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Derek Hayes
Thanks, Trevor. Creepy. Not only because there was a stranger in the attic, but because an ambiguous shape like that could literally be anything. A ghost, an alien, a shadow man, a real person. All terrifying concepts. But the security in place here sure does cast doubt on that last option, as does the teleporting. But, like I said, creepy stuff, Trevor. So thank you again for sharing the call. And, folks, that takes us to the final call of the evening. A bit of a creature feature, but probably not the kind you're thinking of. But before I push play, let's learn about the cryptid beasts that are said to roam the Evergreen state. We have the aforementioned Bigfoot. There's also the mutant bat, Squatch, a Bigfoot type creature with wings. And off the coast, one of my favorites, the Catborosaurus, or Catty for short. There's also the Tacoma Narrows octopus, a massive legendary octopus that's said to lurk beneath the Tacoma Narrows bridge. There's also the Lake Shilon dragon, described as having the legs and body of an alligator and the head and eyes of a snake and a scaly tail and of course, bat like wings. And then there's the Tata Klila, or the owl woman monster, an entity found in the folklore of the Yakima nation. These five women were taller and larger than the common human. And they prefer to hunt children for better eating. And then there's whatever Mike saw. Please welcome him to the program.
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Guest Callers / Mike
Hey, Derek, My name is Mike and I'm calling from Ellensburg, Washington. One of my hobbies is shooting and my previous job I was working 12 to 9 usually. So I would try to sneak up and do my shooting early in the morning outside of town. And this Incident took place July 28, 2016, sometime between 6:30 and 7:00 clock in the morning. This area is referred to as Coleman Canyon. Up in kind of like the Nanham Ridge State Forest. So I was up there. Nice morning. You know, it's July, so it's still cool, but you know, not cloudy. Plenty of light, but not bright. There's an area up there that they call the orchard. That's where a lot of shooting in that area goes on. It's kind of concentrated and just kind of keeps all the waste and anything lead wise from shooting in one area. And you know, it's a moderately wooded area coming out of the shrub step. So I was getting my stuff out of the car, getting ready to get set up, just set some stuff down on the ground. And I was maybe 15 yards away from my car. I turned back around, sort of facing in an easterly direction, walking back to my car, and something flew over my head. The buzz of it sounded like a big insect or you know when, if you've been near a hummingbird, when their wings are moving at a really rapid pace, they give off a certain vibration. It was similar to that but more insect. Like the flap, like a kind of a high pitched flap to it, like an insect's wings. So as I'm hearing this fly over My head. I look up, and by the time I catch sight of this thing, it was probably inside of 10 yards away. And at first, I thought it was an insect. I should say, first of all, also that it was flying completely upright. It wasn't parallel to the ground. It was perpendicular to the ground at all times. As I was watching, its abdomen was at least 6 inches long. The total length of this thing was about 10 inches, I would say. And the abdomen was probably 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch wide. It had an insect's wings, I would say, similar to a dragonfly, but they were situated within the upper third of the body. Like, if it was my body, they would be almost kind of up on my shoulders. So there's this long abdominal shape hanging down below these wings that are situated up top on its body. It hovered in place as I looked up at it. And the way that it moved from that point forward really reminded me of a hummingbird, because it darted very quickly, not quite as quickly as a hummingbird, but still very fast. From its stationary position, where I was looking at it, it might have been 8ft off the ground. So it's in a stationary position, and it shoots up probably 4 or 5ft up to kind of the diagonal, right? And I can tell it's facing me. However, at this point, I don't have glasses on, so I can see detail, but not sharp, crystal clear detail. So it darts up, did that about three more times, adjusting its position. And as I'm sitting there looking at it, my brain is trying to process what I'm seeing. And I realized that its abdomen, what I thought its abdomen was, is actually split down the middle, for lack of a better term. It looked almost like legs that were hanging down or two abdomens that were completely separated. The other thing that kind of threw me off about it was it was really kind of a rusty orange color. That chest abdomen portion was like a lighter tan fading into an orange around the edges. And then whatever the appendages were were a darker, rusty orange tone. But it was obviously looking at me. It was curious about me and had stopped its flight to check me out. And then after repositioning three or four times in that kind of hummingbird fashion, and it just continued to fly off to the east. And there's a creek that runs down there. I lost sight of it up in the canopy of the Doug firs and pines and stuff that are around there. But I believe that he must have proceeded down through the tree canopy and then kind of jetted down to that creek. I don't know, I'm just gonna come out and say something really weird because I don't believe in this sort of thing, but like, if I was someone who believed in fairies, I probably would have said, oh, that's a fairy. So the other thing I should tell you about this area, though, is that on two different occasions I've heard knocking coming from a section of woods that's about 100 to 150 yards off from that area. There's a small ridge line that goes up each time. It's only been three, just, you know, that kind of wood knock, but loud wood on wood on a tree. Yeah. So two times in the same area as I've seen this weird creature. I've also heard wood knocking and wonder if any of your listeners have any similar experiences with that combination of weird things that they've seen. Thanks for your show. Take care and I'll talk to you soon.
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Derek Hayes
Thanks, Mike. Now, given that this is a Tuesday episode and I'm already out of time, I can't do a deep dive here on this story. But I did do some quick digging and I might have found an invasive insect that could fit Mike's description. It's a wasp from North Africa and Southern Europe called the Cyrex wood wasp. It's large, it fits the description, and most importantly has two large appendages dangling from its abdomen, exactly like Mike just described. I've included all sorts of info on this critter in the show notes, so take a look. Mike, could this be your culprit? Now, if it's not, that might mean that Washington State could have its very own very problem. Thank you again Mike for sharing your fun entry. And folks, that wraps things up for the All Washington episode. What a weird and beautiful place. Now, Monsters Among Us Podcast is right written and produced by me, Derek Hayes. Copyright Red Crow Media. Additional support is provided by Sarah Carter Hayes, Delaney Bowers and Connor Ryan. All media used in this production is done so under the protection of fair use. Now, be sure to follow the show on social media, YouTube, join our Discord server and leave us a rate and review, wherever that sort of thing is possible. Now, don't forget, you can catch the show every Saturday evening at 10pm Eastern on the on X Digital Network. Just visit on xnetwork.com to tune in. And finally, tonight's score was provided by Iron Cthulhu, Apocalypse Co AG Music and Carl Casey at Whitebat Audio. Now go watch our movie Shadows in the desert. Just visit borregotriangle.com to tune in, or you can find us on Amazon prime or Tubi. Tune in to Monsters Among Us Junior every other Wednesday and join us in the Beyond 30 to 45 extra minutes every Thursday. That's two extra episodes a month, all for the price of whatever you can still find for five bucks these days. Maybe a gas station hot dog or something. Anyway, the point is you can get all this new stuff, plus days worth of back episodes, all at your fingertips ad free as well. Oh, and they have a free trial. If you're not convinced. Just visit monsters among us podcast.com and click that Patreon button. All right, gang, if the see a man about a horse, but until next time, you keep it spooky and have yourselves a good night.
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Male Callers (Thomas, Troy, Trevor)
Sam.