
“I’m pregnant with the Prince of Dubai’s child and I will be moving out of China.” That is a sentence that has been uttered by at least 15 different Chinese influencers. They are always sitting next to the man, a small prince from Dubai, and explaining in Chinese to their viewers that because they’re moving they will be selling everything during a livestream. Royal perfume. Royal cooking ware. Royal toilet paper. All used by the Prince of Dubai. But how can every influencer be married to the Prince? Are there that many Princes? And how come every hot, young, rich influencer is suddenly taking meetings at the UN headquarters? This is the world of Chinese influencers - who have lost their minds. We’re living for it.
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Debbie
Um, I don't think that I have any kids, but if I did have kids, this is why I would be a great mom. Let me just list one reason. I have about 5,000 reasons why I would not be a good mom, which is probably why I'm not gonna have kids. However, this is the one redeeming quality that I have to be a parent. This is it. Sometimes It'll be like 2 in the morning, way past my bedtime. He will be working, he'll be doing something. And I like to lay in bed. And there is this one guilty pleasure tiktoker that I like to watch. There is something about their content that is so fascinating to me. I don't have children. I don't remember the last time I went to a playground because I don't have children. And that feels a little creepy if I go to a playground. So I decided that this is the person that I'm gonna be so obsessed with. On TikTok, there is this person that opens every single video with a doll. The doll is the size of, I wanna say, could be nine years old, could be nine months old. I don't know, kid ages. It's about yay tall. It looks about maybe up to my chest tall. Okay, it's a doll. It's got hair, it's got rosy little cheeks. This is not a real human. This is a doll. And it opens with them at a playground. And it is reviewing the safety of this specific playground. They will bring to the top of the slide and then just push it down the slide and the doll will dun, dun, dun, dun, all the way down. Or they'll push the doll down, down the ladder and all the way down, it's just bonk, bonk, bonk, bonking its head. And it's like so comical because the bonks are really loud and everyone there is very silent. Just Listening to the bonks. And then you open up the comments section and everyone is very serious. I will not be bringing my kid here. This playground will never be taking our services. We will never be visiting ever again. And I'm just like, why am. Why am I so addicted to this? I can't stop watching it every.
Chris
Why are you addicted?
Debbie
Something about it is so fascinating.
Chris
Like, what's fascinating Debunking or.
Debbie
It's like just the absurdity of it. I'm like, what would I do if I do go to a playground for once in my lifetime? I bring my nieces and I just see these full grown adults with a little doll that they're bonking around. Sometimes they put the doll on the seesaw and then they jump on the other side and the doll goes flying.
Chris
And I'm like, is that like he's trying to check safety? Yeah, he's like, trying to try to start something. Like, what? What do you mean? Who's gonna jump on the seesaw and see a child flying?
Debbie
You just never know. You don't know what crotch goblins do in their free time. You don't know. Have you seen what our nieces get up to? They're crazy. I saw one picking her nose, trying to put it on the wall. And I said, at least make it artistic. At least make it. Make it modern art, you weirdo. Yeah, yeah. And then we made eye contact, too. She was like, mid plucking. And then she's, like, reaching for the wall in slow motion.
Chris
Well, at least.
Debbie
Yeah, at least she didn't eat it, right, you know? Okay, never mind.
Chris
What? What?
Debbie
I told my sister once. I feel like it'd be better if they ate it, right? Because, like, you don't have to clean up the book. Because I'm a loving sister. I care about my sister.
Chris
So. What? What? What did she say?
Debbie
She was like, 70. You're crazy. I was like, at least if they eat it, you don't have to clean up after them. And you can finally get, like one second, one millisecond of rest, don't you think? And then she was like, oh, my God, you're the worst.
Chris
Stephanie goes MIA look, this is a treat.
Debbie
Yum, yum, yum, nom, nom.
Chris
This is the forbidden chocolate.
Debbie
Also, I started doing this thing where anytime I'm eating something delicious around the kids that I don't want to share, I say it's medicine. So maybe I should say the boogers are a snack. They're a snack. You eat snacks. Okay. But anyway, I'M obsessed with that influencer. And there's another influencer that I'm genuinely kind of really into right now. And they're on Douyin. I can't download doing on my app for some reason. Tiffany, my sister in law, won't help me. I don't know why I put out an sos And I think that she's doing it for my mental clarity and my mental sanity. Because if I had doing, which is the Chinese version of TikTok, I would never get off of doing. TikTok itself is already bad doing. Are you kidding me? I don't even understand the language.
Chris
I mean, you basically get douyin experience now on red, on xiaohongzhu.
Debbie
It's not the same as doing. It's not the same as douyin. Let me tell you the craziest thing about douyin. I come across so many American interrogation tapes on douyin. Like lots of like weird American culture stuff on douyin. And I love reading the comments because they're like, these people are f ing weird. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, we are. Okay. It's sick and twisted. But my favorite person on douyin, I don't even know how I came across him. His name is Special Agent Butt.
Chris
What?
Debbie
You know why? Special agent. But his resume is long. It's oof. It's in depth. It's. There's so much going in and out and all up around it. He's been across 17 provinces in China. He travels 17 provinces, 225 locations, 32 universities, 26 hotels. Hotels in total. He is a reviewer. Special agent. But what do you think he reviews? What do you think he reviews?
Chris
I say butts.
Debbie
Like other people's butts or his butt.
Chris
Other people's butts.
Debbie
So he. Okay, imagine this. He walks up to someone on the street and he says, my name is Special Agent Butt and I'm here to. To measure your butt. Rank your butt.
Chris
Yeah, maybe.
Debbie
Okay.
Chris
Sounds a little illegal. Yeah, like harassment, but yeah.
Debbie
Okay, but you think maybe he's this evil tiktoker that made his career off of that. He reviews toilets. He has reviewed 582 toilets across China. He is a finance graduate from Beijing University, which is like the Harvard of China. And now he goes around. Yeah, he talks about that all the time. He says, guys, everyone, I am basically one of the smartest graduates in the country and I am going into the niche sector. And everyone comments, don't worry. I think you're the only person going into this Niche sector. Like you have job security at least. So he goes to all these malls and he reviews the flushing power of the toilet. Because if you. You're on a date, you have to go do your business. It doesn't flush. What does that mean? What does that mean?
Chris
That means you just left a surprise for the next.
Debbie
Can I tell you something so embarrassing?
Chris
Sure.
Debbie
I don't even know if I should be repeating this out loud. I haven't even told you in private. Okay, I'm gonna cut this out if it's too embarrassing. That time we were coming back from New York, and we were at the airport in Atlanta, Okay? So I went into the restroom, and there was nobody in the restroom. I think there was, like one stall, no two stalls open, but there wasn't a line. So there was two stalls open. I go into one of the stalls, and I been holding it in the entire flight. We had just landed and I didn't take my anti gas tums, which I have to do prior to any liftoff takeoff. Nothing. Something here turns into kombucha once I reach a certain altitude. However I reach that point, it's a bubbling, and I let it burst. Then I walk out. Okay, and there's a whole line of people. And that's fine, right? I'm like, whatever.
Chris
It's okay. We all been there.
Debbie
No, that's not the. That's not the embarrassing part. Okay? There's a whole line of people. The person in the front of the line, and I can see them as I'm washing my hands, goes into the stall. The only open stall, the one that I came out of, and then comes back out and waits for the next one.
Chris
Oh, okay. So they made a ui.
Debbie
They made a UI in front of my face.
Chris
And then they go. You go first.
Debbie
You first. Can you check it Safe in front of my face? Aww.
Chris
That's okay, honey.
Debbie
I know it's okay, because last night you had cauliflower for dinner, and you get very gassy during cauliflower. So don't even. Don't try to act like I'm the only embarrassing one, but it was really bad. Anyway, that's not even what we're talking about today. I'm bringing this up because it really takes a lot to.
Chris
I don't even know where we at right now.
Debbie
Oh, the toilet guy.
Chris
It went from the playground.
Debbie
Yeah.
Chris
To the toilet.
Debbie
Oh, then you really have no clue where this is going. I'm about to take you on a trip. Just get ready. Buckle it up. Put your seatbelts on hands on the steering wheel. Okay, so basically the whole reason that I got here is it takes a lot to stand out in China as a douyin influencer. You've got a billion different people that you're competing with. And it feels like everyone on Chinese social media, they have a saying for it. They said, this is the profile. Fair, rich, and pretty.
Chris
Yes. It's called Bai Fu Mei.
Debbie
Yes. Yeah. Literally, colorism, socioeconomicism, and then pretty privileged. Yeah. It's literally like the worst three things combined in one. And they said, those are the influencers that you're gonna see. They're all fair, rich, and pretty. And guess what? It's not their fault. They're fair, rich, and pretty. Kudos to them. Do your thing. Live your life. Post your videos. Right? But there's so many of them. Everyone said everybody is fair, rich, and pretty. These days, it seems like every corner of the Internet has 50 million of them competing for the attention. Until last year, there was a shift in China, a social, cultural shift. It was an earthquake. It was the birthing of the UN Influencer. And you're wondering what the that is, because that's the question that I had. What's a UN Influencer? A United nations influencer? You got a lot of questions. I can see it in your eyeballs right now. Don't ask, because I'm going to answer them all. February 2024, a creator named Shirley posts a video on Douyin, and everyone is scrolling. Fair, rich and pretty. Fair, rich and pretty. Ooh, that's a good toilet. And then they keep scrolling, right? And then suddenly they land on this opening line. Good morning. Today I am going to the United nations headquarters for lunch. And it is just one of those moments where you're casually swiping through your feed and you're passing her video and you think, wait, what the fork do you mean you're going to the United nations headquarters? Is this a Chipotle? I'm sorry, did they open up a chick fil A inside of the United nations headquarters? What do you mean you're just going to go eat lunch there? Everyone who comes across her video that day has the same reactions. Is this girl serious? What is she talking about? So they scroll back and they see this beautiful style, stunning girl sitting in a car, casually talking about her plans to have lunch at the UN Headquarters. So as these words are leaving her mouth, she's like, casually tucking her hair behind her ears. Boom. Large pearl earrings. And everyone's like, wait, what's going on? She looks 21, 22. She looks rich, she's beautiful and she's going to the United Nations Headquarters. Today's episode is sponsored by Acorns. The most valuable financial advice I've ever encountered is pay yourself first. This simple approach transforms saving into a non negotiable priority. You can easily do this with Acorns. Acorns is a financial wellness app that makes it easy to start saving and investing for your future. Acorns lets you get started with the money you've got right now. Even if all you've got is spare change, you don't need to be an expert. Acorns recommends a diversified portfolio that can help you weather all of the market's ups and downs. You just need to stick with it and Acorns makes that easy too. Acorns automatically invest your money, giving it a chance to grow with time. Sign up now and join the over 14 million all time customers who have already saved and invested over $25 billion with Acorns. Head to acorns.com rotten or download the Acorns app to get started. Paid client endorsement compensation provides incentive to positively promote Acorns Tier 4 compensation provided investing involves risk. Acorns Advisors LLC and SEC registered investment advisor view important disclosures@acorns.com Rauten NetCredit is.
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Debbie
Guarantee on eligible plans exclusion supply. See website for details. Not available Fab Metro with T Mobile in the past six months Tax supplies Then she gets there, she checks in, she goes to the restroom and she's like guys, I'm going to show you guys my outfit. But I'm just really casually today. It's a casual event. I'm just eating with my own team so I'm not going to wear anything super formal. She pins the camera to the full length mirror in the bathroom. She's decked out head to toe in Christian Dior. Like everything. Christian Dior. Her outfit is probably like $10,000, not including accessories and handb. Just her clothing. Then she shows her walking through the hallways of the United Nations. She's like periodically waving. The headquarter. Yeah. Where you can't even just like walk in. You can't just walk in there. This is not a museum. This is not like a public library. She's. I don't know, I imagine it's like the Pentagon. Okay, clearly.
Chris
So what is her job? Does she say like, nobody knows.
Debbie
Nobody knows. So then she's like, let me just show you what's going on. Then she sits down at this like circular table in the cafeteria of the United Nations. And then she has a little plaque. What?
Chris
Whatever you say she sits down at the United Nations. I'm just seeing like sitting with all the head of the. Every nation.
Debbie
Actually, she does sit in front of Bill Gates at one point. So perhaps. Perhaps. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So she sits down at the circular cafeteria table. It looks okay. I would give it like a three and a half, four star type of vibe from a hotel, but it's the United nations, so it's like 10 stars automatically because how cool is that? She shows a plaque card with her name on there. Shirley Lynn. It's like a little wedding. And she's sitting there. There's clearly people next to her, but she doesn't show them out of respect for, I don't know, national security. Who the fuck knows, right? And she's eating the food. It looks like delicate vegetables and protein.
Chris
And she's like, yeah, she's eating while attending a meeting.
Debbie
I think this is the lunch break. I'm assuming she would not just be vlogging, right? I'm assuming.
Chris
Okay.
Debbie
And she's like, yeah. I mean, usually for buffet, like they'll have buffets, like little lunch periods at the un, but for private gatherings like this, they only allow delegates and related personnel to make reservations. So we made a reservations and now we're just eating. And then she just like puts up the camera and she's eating and she's like. I think the worst part about this and like being the youngest at the table is the food sucks. But at least you have an excuse not to talk because it's like part of Chinese culture. Everyone's like, young kiss. You need to eat more. You need to eat more. So then she's just like, yeah, so I just like to sit there and Eat, eat, eat. So I don't have to talk. But the food's not that great. And everyone's looking at the food like it looks so good. And then at the end, she's like, yeah, anyway, it's over. It's like the joy of the happiness of school being over for the day. And she's just like, skippity hoppity out of the UN building. And everyone is like, who are you? What's going on? Are you Xi Jinping's lost daughter? Because how. What's happening? You're so young, you're so beautiful, you're so rich. What's going on at the un? And everything is so vague, which adds to the mystery of it. Like, delegates, personnel. Which part? Like, what team? What private reservation? I don't understand. So everybody is asking all of these comments, and she just keeps kind of avoiding them. She just posts more UN videos. And so everyone was like, okay, that makes a lot of sense. When you are involved with the un, you don't go around sharing what kind of work you do. That's highly classified information. Perhaps. I don't know. Probably not. Okay, but it could be. It could be. And everybody is so fascinated at this rare glimpse of the high stake, high political, high impact, high influence life of a UN influencer. You're not an influencer with a Lamborghini. Those are losers. Lamborghini. L for loser. You're un. You for the ultimate. You for unicorn. You for. You are doing great. Okay? That's what she's doing. So they're flooding her comments, like, begging her, please, can we do more day in the lives of, like, you going to the un because this is the best I've ever seen. And then so she does. She's like, good morning. Today I'm going to the UN headquarters to give a speech and to receive an award. And she's all dressed up in a gown. She goes up onto the stage, and again, for privacy reasons, she doesn't show a bunch of people. She only shows, like, a snippet of her speech. And she's like, hi, my name is Shirley. And she speaks English and Mandarin. She's like, hi, my name is Shirley. And she goes on with her little speech. Then it cuts to her receiving the award, and she's just gracefully waving like a little princess, like a UN princess. And everyone is like, ah, we need more of this. I want more. Shirley, you need to go to work every single day. You need to go to work on the weekends. I don't care that you want to have an off day. Get to work. I'm tired of this, Grandma. I don't care that that's what they want from Shirley. Okay, to the point. All the comments are talking about it. Oh. In one snippet of her UN Video, Bill Gates is just there. And all the comments are, I thought Bill Gates died. Yeah. I don't know why.
Chris
Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay, I can see that. Like, growing up in China, we learn about Bill Gates. I learned about Bill Gates, like, third grade in a textbook. It literally goes, bill Gates is the richest person in the world.
Debbie
Wait, what do you guys call him?
Chris
B R Gates.
Debbie
Shut up. Shut up. Wait, say it again.
Chris
BR Gates.
Debbie
What's Jeff Bezos?
Chris
I don't know. I didn't learn about him. He hadn't made it yet. When I was.
Debbie
Yeah, he was like. He hadn't grown up. Whatever. He hadn't done atrocious things yet.
Chris
I learned about BR Guys. And I learned about Ronald. Ronaldo.
Debbie
Cristiano Ronaldo, the football player.
Chris
Like, ever since I was young, since I learned it at third grade, I always thought he's, like, a historical figure.
Debbie
You thought he's like, Einstein, like, dead and gone.
Chris
Oh, yeah, for sure. So I came to America, like, high school. Oh, wow. He's super relevant. Like, he's still around.
Debbie
Not only is he relevant, I think he's dating someone young now.
Chris
I mean. No, I'm just saying.
Debbie
Yeah.
Chris
So I think I know why some people comment that.
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Debbie
I thought there was, like, fake news spreading, or maybe it's just, like, American Billionaire. They're too focused on the Chinese billionaires that they didn't care about Bill Gates. Because all the comments. I was so confused when I was, like, translating the comments, because all of them were like, wait, didn't he die, like, a thousand years ago? Yeah.
Chris
And I was like, if I read. Think about it. If I learn about him in third grade, it's been, like, what, Decades?
Debbie
Okay, you're aging yourself here.
Chris
Yeah.
Debbie
So because of her UN Video and Bill Gates in the video, her followers jumped from 3 million to 7 million practically overnight.
Chris
What was Bill doing?
Debbie
Oh, he was just sitting there saying. He was talking, but she had voiceover. It's like Bill Gates was hosting a dinner today, and then she was there.
Chris
Okay.
Debbie
And I was like, whoa, this is straight out of a show, a movie. I mean, these are glimpses into such a rare world. And people are saying she was born in 2002 and she's already at the U.N. this is, I mean, crazy.
Chris
2002.
Debbie
Yeah. She's so young.
Chris
She's like 22. Back last year. 20, 22.
Debbie
Meanwhile, I can't even get a sentence out without drinking water. And she's giving speeches at the un and then the comments start reading, wait, isn't this the girl that makes the song covers? So everyone's like, what is she? What are they talking about? Scroll back to her past post. She's a singer. She's good at singing. There's videos of her opening for a concert. Like a small little concert. I mean, this girl does everything. Everyone is like, this is the new it girl of China. We need to make her someone. Because these are the types of influencers we need to have. We don't need Lamborghini influencers, we need UN influencers. And it was like the minute that someone typed in that comment so innocently, it's probably some random person like me laying in bed, 3am like, sideways on their phone, about to drop it on their face. Like, we need more UN influencers instead of Lamborghini influencers. Post 2 seconds later, they check to see how many likes they got. Okay, that's me. That's what they're doing. And the whole world sees this one comment. The next day, you go on douyin. Every single person is a UN influencer all of a sudden. And then people originally thought, is my algorith algorithming the out of here because I posted or, I liked this one UN influencer. I followed her. And suddenly I'm getting all these young people. Spend a day with me at the UN Headquarters today. Spend a day of my life at the UN Headquarters. Today I'm gonna be joining a very important meeting to discuss world politics and foreign policy. Spend the day with me as we talk about climate change at the UN Headquarters. I was late, so I had to take a helicopter. And everyone is like, what the fuck?
Chris
I didn't even know your voice can sound like that.
Debbie
Did you like?
Chris
That was. That was weird.
Debbie
He said, I didn't know you had a quiet mode. I didn't know.
Chris
That. Almost put me to sleep. I got tingles.
Debbie
Did you like it? Did you like it? That was so gross. I want to die. Everyone is like, spend the day with me at the UN headquarter.
Chris
Okay, okay, okay, we get it.
Debbie
And then another person is like, this is me and these are my veto buttons. So I'm just going to press the veto for this. I'm voting.
Chris
What do you mean, veto button?
Debbie
I guess they're saying that they're voting at the UN and they show themselves, like, now I'M going to be pressing.
Chris
X. X, Wait, there's a button?
Debbie
Yes. And then they press X. What? Yeah, that's how they vote. I guess. I guess the UN is technologically advanced.
Chris
Are they all like young girls?
Debbie
There's young dudes, young girls. I would say they're all like 20s, early 20s, like too young that I would not picture them at the un If I can google un. All the people coming up, they're older than my mom.
Chris
Yeah, but these are all like influencers.
Debbie
Yes. And they're all pretty and they're all dressed head to toe. So everyone's like, huh, it's so interesting. Either my algorithm is algorithm ing or. Or something fishy is happening because why is everybody suddenly a UN influencer? Used to just be surely. And now there's like 50 million of them and all of them are making content about the un and now it's getting to the point where it's not even reasonable content because one guy was obsessed with clicking the veto button and he said, I will be repping our nation veto. Now, if you don't know there's like a one veto policy in the UN where eight countries, if any one of them vetoes automatically the whole thing gets vetoed. China is one of them. So they're like this random 21 year old looking dude just did a one vote veto for the nation of China. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Not even for a second. Second. What's happening here?
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Debbie
Guys were worse than the girls. The girl UN influencers. They slayed, they came, they did their thing, they did their voting. They vetoed the out of everything. And I said, good for you, right? The guys. There's this one guy who's like, spend the day with me as the UN influencer and he just wakes up shirtless, just abs. And I'm like, bro, what are you doing at the un? Okay. Then he's like, like putting on the suit and tie really slowly, like he's Christian Gray. Then he goes to the UN and he's all like, he's mewing the whole time. I. If you're mewing at the un, I don't know if you should be at the un. You know what I mean? All of these people are at the un. But then people started noticing something interesting. They're all going to the same UN building at the same location, but they all have different commute times. I mean, I don't know, maybe they're part of different teams, but some of them are like, like, I just need to show up by 9, so I'm taking my helicopter, my chopper. Some people are like, I have to get there at 7:40, so I'm taking my private driver who drives me around in a Rolls Royce, obviously to the un. And everyone's like, something's weird here because who the F is going in a Rolls Royce to the United Nations? So people start investigating. And just to give you some context of what's going on, I need to talk to you about the Gucci type. There was a scandal in China, okay?
Chris
This video is like taking 50 million.
Debbie
Turns and you'll never know what's coming next.
Chris
Now we're in a Gucci store.
Debbie
There was a scandal In China. Okay. Where a lot of fair, rich, and pretty influencers all got a foot fungus at the same time. And people thought that was weird. And they also thought it was weird that they're promoting it. Not promoting it, but vlogging about it because it was. There's a lot of foot. There's a lot of fungus. Eight of them at the same time. Are they all going to the same gym? Showers at some $2,000 a month gym, but they never mop their showers. And then they don't give you free flip flops for $2,000 a month. So you got to walk into the puddle of water and then you get a foot fungus. Is that what's going on? Because it's not that common that eight people at the same time get a foot fungus. And they're all kind of friends. So people start investigating. Turns out they're not fair, rich, and pretty. They're fair and they're pretty, and life's not fair because they're not rich. So they had bought a pair of Gucci tights and split it amongst 20 people, and they all paid, like, $30 for it. One pair of tights covers your feet and everything. You know what I'm talking about? The stockings with the Gucci logo everywhere, those were like, all the hype. And the Chanel ones were all the hype. They bought one pair and they share and they shared it. So everybody reserved a day. They had, like a Google Doc calendar for it. This day I'm going to this town, so I need to take a bunch of pictures.
Chris
Freaking crazy.
Debbie
This day I'm going to book this hotel, so I need to take a bunch of pictures. And one person can't wash it. No, one person had a foot fungus, and so all of them got the foot fungus. What's even crazier is that they even have hotel packages for influencers. You can enter a check chat in China and they'll say, booking Presidential suite at the Shangri La Hotel or the Mandarin Oriental Hotel. Right.
Chris
Yeah.
Debbie
Everyone needs to pitch in. And you get 30 minutes.
Chris
Yeah. To take photos.
Debbie
Yes. Everybody pitches in like a hundred dollars versus, I don't know, probably like the thousands of dollars it is for that night. And they have everything set up to take photos. So you go in, they've already moved the bed next to the window. Like all the Instagram pictures, which, by the way, I always thought about that because I always go to the hotel's Instagra Instagram page, and I always see beds right next to the window. In New York, And I'm like, that is beautiful. I want to wake up like that. Then you book the room. The bed is nowhere near the window. And you're like, how did they move the mattress? Or they get the table? Oh, my God. This was a crazy thing. I saw an influencer breaking it down. She said she moves the table, covers it in blankets to look like bedding, and then she just, like, leans up against the window whilst sitting on the table to make it look like she's just casually woke up. Like this. Next to the window.
Chris
Yeah, it's that influencer economy.
Debbie
It was crazy. So if you see me posing in a hotel next to the window. No, you fucking did it. Okay. That was natural. So they see that and they realize, okay, something weird's going on with the UN influencers. They go online and they find that the un you can actually buy a package to do a full tour where you get to go around and be really integrated in the office. You get to go and sit in on some discussions that are obviously not important discussions. You can even sit and eat lunch there with a reservation. You get a little name tag. You get a badge. You get the whole UN experience. But then people are saying, okay, that explains all the new people. But Shirley's not a faker, because Shirley, she gave me a speech and got an award. Well, according to one article published by mainstream media, Chinese news outlets, if you just pay around $10,000.
Chris
$10,000?
Debbie
Yeah. You could give a speech at the UN. Like, not even just to an empty room. Like, you're going to have people that like. I guess it's like, speech night. Speech night. Please give a speech on something that you care about, and maybe Bill Gates will be there. Maybe. Who knows? Yeah. And then if you pay even more, you get awarded an award. Like, if you pay, like, $30,000, you get an AW award. I don't know what that award is for. For being rich, I guess. But you get an award. So it seems like Shirley paid for that package, because even when you listen to a little snippet of her inter. Her speech at the un, it doesn't make sense. Like, it's very vague. It doesn't sound like she's really saying much. And everything about it, like I said, was very vague. Like, we don't know what she's given a speech on. Right. Turns out you can buy a package to give a speech and award at the un. So everyone realized the UN influence is not a UN influencer. Yeah, Most of them bought their way in, and it actually became a Whole scandal in China because the people that were actually doing work at the un, they were accused of lying, and they're, like, trying to raise awareness for actual topics that are being covered at the un and people are like, you. You're a poser. You're a faker. You're lying. So that was a whole thing. So then people moved on to the next best thing. People became like, it's so fascinating because I think in America, it's the same, but because we're in it, we don't see it. Not like me, but like Americans. Like, we're on TikTok every day, so we don't see the sudden shift of different people. But, like, when you go look at China or different countries because you weren't in it the whole way, it feels like everything is a period. The period was UN influencer, and now there's a new period that everybody is talking about. And. And it's so fascinating. It's people that are saying, hey, look, we're moving out of the country, and I'm going to go settle down in the UAE because my husband is a prince.
Chris
Oh, my God.
Debbie
So.
Chris
Oh, my God.
Debbie
My. My husband is a prince.
Chris
Yeah, I'm a princess.
Debbie
And I'm a princess. And we're going to move to Dubai, and we're going to live there for the rest of our lives. And we have. Have so much royal stuff here, because my prince from the uae, they always say uae. Okay, My prince from the uae, he had a lot of princely stuff in China while he was living with me. But now we're gonna go back and do some royal duties. He's a tiny prince, by the way. He's, like, not even really that big. Oh, he's not even like the main prince. He's like a side prince. Like, if they were to write a romance book about a princess prince, it's not this one. It's not this one, that's for sure. And then they show the husband, and I'm like, look, I don't know. Right? I don't know, but he looks more like a Prince Harry knockoff than a Middle Eastern prince. But, you know, what do I know? Right?
Chris
What?
Debbie
Yeah, they all just look, like, super white. They don't look Middle Eastern at all. At all. So I'm like, do. Am I confused? Do I not know anything about anything? Like, I'm over here googling the princes of the uae, whoever they married in China, and they say, turns out I'm pregnant. So we have decided to move back to settle down and his family want us to be back there. So we're going to be selling everything on the live stream. Look at my belly. They're always heavily pregnant. And when I say they, I've come across maybe like, like 20 UAE prince married princesses. Chinese girls who have married UAE princes. Yeah. Middle Eastern princes. And like I'm pregnant. So we're gonna do a little flash sale of everything in our house. Everything's gotta go for super, super cheap. Just cuz it's not even really for us. We just want to give back to you guys.
Chris
So what are they selling?
Debbie
They're selling some of the cheapest that people have ever seen in their lives. It's like Tupperware that might as well. Like Tupperware is like a reusable food container. Yes. Which should be better for the environment. However, it's like paper. So it's not even Tupperware ing. It's like a paper dish. They're just selling the cheapest things. But they put royal in front of it. They put UAE royalty in front of it. UAE royalty. Tupperware, UAE royalty, French perfume. And it's like the worst thing that Chinese netizens have ever seen in their entire lives. But they eat it up.
Chris
Who eat it up?
Debbie
The netizens.
Chris
The audience buy it.
Debbie
Yeah.
Chris
They're like, oh man, give me some royal toilet paper.
Debbie
They say it's actually kind of fun. I mean sometimes they're like, it's fun.
Chris
Oh, okay. So it's like a skit. They know it's a skit.
Debbie
I mean, I hope most people do. Yeah, I hope. I feel like some people might have fallen for it. Like I feel like my mom would have fallen for it.
Chris
No.
Debbie
Okay, maybe not my mom, but I think that there are some older people that might have fallen for it. Yeah.
Chris
Okay, so the question is, are they selling what they have in the house or they're selling like here's like a whole inventory of a whole inventory.
Debbie
Because they're royalty. You know, obviously royalty have inventory. They have a house, house for their house. And that second house, it's like the. When I learned about the yachts.
Chris
A boat for a boat, a boat for a boat.
Debbie
Jeff Bezos's supply boat is like $40 million. I don't think that man has stepped foot on that boat. And it just follows around his like, I don't know, 100 million dollar boat around like a little tail, like, hey, if you ever need to wipe your ass, I got a whole room full of toilet paper here. Yeah. Oh yeah. Huh? Yeah. And then they just. Just disappear. They just disappear afterwards after they make their money. But some of the girls, they decide, I actually want to keep an online career after this. So what they do is douyin gets really mad if you lie to sell products. So they will come out and they'll say, guys. They'll come out looking disheveled. Guys, I got scammed. I thought my husband was the prince of the uae and he wasn't. And now I'm really sad and I have no more money anymore. So I'm gonna be hosting a live stream where I sell products for really discounted prices because I need the money. Yeah, they're smart. They're insane. I don't even know what to say. It got to the point where a lot of international publications were making articles about the rise of UAE product princess marrying Chinese girls. It's a scam. Yeah, like, it's all a scam. And it's always like the weirdest vlogging situation. It's always like they're in a convertible in a car, and then like, someone is recording them. But, like, imagine I'm in the passenger seat of a convertible car and I'm just like, hey, guy. I'm like, looking up at the sky. It's just weird. The whole thing is bizarre. And that is what I been swept up in recently. I've been going down so many rabbit holes. I need to get off the webpage. Doing this is why Tiffany told me I'm not allowed to have the app. I think she's actually helping me because I went through the UN influencer phase. The toilet. The toilet guy. And, oh, the. The. The UAE prince phase. But there's also. This is so fascinating. I think the way that Chinese influencers work is fascinating. And I have so much respect for it because. Because they are efficient, they know what they want. And they cut to the chase. Like, there was this one group where they were hosting these walking events, like, walking on the pier of Shanghai. What's that street? The Bund. Imagine, like, walking down Fifth Avenue or walking around Central park. And they want it to be Gossip Girl esque. They went through a Gossip Girl phase. Everybody in China went through a Gossip Girl phase where they were doing yoga on the street and they were like, we love a America. And then. Which, by the way, I love the fact that if you go on Chinese social media, they always be posting like, guys, look at this American lunch I'm having. Because I think American food was trending at one point. They would go to an American restaurant.
Chris
They call it like white people meal.
Debbie
And the American restaurant they go to is just like the worst salad restaurant I've ever seen in my life. And they always go, I don't know how Americans do it. Why is everything so cold? Yogurt is cold. Your salad is cold. Everything is cold. And they were. Yeah, it was a whole thing to have white people meals. They were cosplaying. And so then they love Gossip Girl. They said in order to walk the pier with us, all they're doing is walking and taking pictures. Your outfit needs to be worth at least $1,000. Your bag needs to at least be $5,000. Please submit this form if you'd like to walk with us. These are strangers that are just gonna be walking together. I don't even know what that means. What do you mean? Yeah, they just dress up and then they just walk. They walk.
Chris
Fascinating, huh?
Debbie
I'm in a rabbit hole. I can't get out of the China verse. I love it here. There's so much going on. Everywhere I look, some weird shit is happening. What are your thoughts on this? Let me know in the comments and I'll see you guys in the next one.
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Podcast Summary: Moral Of The Story – "Chinese Influencers Suddenly Mass Marry Dubai Princes & Attend United Nation Meetings"
Episode Overview
In this episode of Moral Of The Story, host Stephanie Soo delves into a sensational and bizarre trend emerging from Chinese social media platforms, particularly Douyin (the Chinese version of TikTok). The discussion centers around a sudden surge of Chinese influencers marrying Dubai princes and attending meetings at the United Nations, highlighting the absurdity, consequences, and cultural implications of these actions. Through engaging dialogue with her husband, Chris, Stephanie unpacks the intricacies of this phenomenon, blending humor with critical analysis.
1. The Birth of the "UN Influencer"
The episode begins with Stephanie (referred to as Debbie in the transcript) introducing the concept of the new wave of Chinese influencers who are making headlines by aligning themselves with high-profile institutions like the United Nations (UN).
[10:33] Debbie: "It's literally like the worst three things combined in one. And they said, those are the influencers that you're gonna see. They're all fair, rich, and pretty."
Stephanie explains how these influencers, dubbed "UN Influencers," started gaining attention when a creator named Shirley posted a video announcing she was heading to the UN headquarters for lunch. This unexpected content puzzled viewers and sparked widespread curiosity.
[14:25] Debbie: "Shirley posts a video on Douyin, and everyone is scrolling... 'Good morning. Today I am going to the United Nations headquarters for lunch.'"
2. The Spread and Saturation of "UN Influencers"
Following Shirley's initial posts, Stephanie observes a rapid proliferation of similar content across Douyin. Influencers began mimicking Shirley's style—dressing in high-end fashion, attending seemingly exclusive events at the UN, and engaging in vague, enigmatic activities that left audiences bewildered.
[16:02] Debbie: "It was like something straight out of a show, a movie. These are glimpses into such a rare world."
This trend reached a tipping point when viewers noticed that many of these influencers shared similar patterns, such as traveling to the same UN building from different directions using various luxury transport means like helicopters and Rolls Royces.
[25:12] Chris: "Yeah, but these are all like influencers."
3. Scandals and Exposures: The Gucci Tights Foot Fungus Incident
The episode takes a dramatic turn as Stephanie recounts a scandal that exposed the fraudulent nature of these "UN Influencers." A group of influencers simultaneously developed foot fungus after sharing a single pair of Gucci tights. This incident raised suspicions about their coordinated efforts to fabricate an affluent and high-status lifestyle.
[29:37] Debbie: "They bought a pair of Gucci tights and split it amongst 20 people... eight of them at the same time get a foot fungus."
Investigations revealed that these influencers were not genuinely affiliated with the UN or Dubai royalty. Instead, they had purchased packages costing upwards of $10,000 that allowed them to give speeches and receive awards at the UN, thereby creating a facade of legitimacy and prestige.
[33:31] Chris: "$10,000?"
[33:32] Debbie: "Yeah. If you pay around $10,000, you could give a speech at the UN... If you pay even more, you get an award."
4. The Psychological and Social Impact
Throughout the conversation, Stephanie and Chris explore the psychological allure of such deceptive practices and their impact on both the influencers and their followers. They discuss how these actions manipulate social media algorithms and exploit the aspirations of young audiences seeking fame and recognition.
[32:33] Debbie: "If you see me posing in a hotel next to the window. No, you fucking did it. That was natural."
Moreover, the episode touches on the societal pressures that drive influencers to adopt exaggerated personas, highlighting the thin line between genuine self-presentation and manufactured identities.
5. The UAE Prince Marriages and Product Scams
Expanding beyond the UN Influencer trend, Stephanie introduces another layer to the scandal: the mass marriages between Chinese girls and UAE princes. These unions are often staged to lend an air of royalty and exclusivity to the influencers' brands, enabling them to sell products under the guise of royal endorsement.
[35:36] Debbie: "I'm pregnant. So we're going to be selling everything on the live stream. Look at my belly."
She describes how these influencers leverage their supposed royal connections to offer products at exorbitant prices, such as "royal toilet paper" and other branded items, which many followers purchase, believing in the authenticity of the endorsements.
[37:28] Debbie: "They're selling some of the cheapest that people have ever seen in their lives. It's like Tupperware that might as well be paper."
6. Cultural Reflections and Final Thoughts
In concluding the episode, Stephanie reflects on the efficiency and strategic thinking behind Chinese influencers' tactics. She expresses a mix of fascination and concern over the lengths to which influencers go to fabricate their online personas and the broader implications for social media culture.
[42:45] Chris: "Fascinating, huh?"
[42:46] Debbie: "I'm in a rabbit hole. I can't get out of the China verse. I love it here. There's so much going on."
Stephanie emphasizes the importance of critical media consumption and the need for audiences to distinguish between genuine content and orchestrated marketing ploys.
Notable Quotes
Debbie on the rise of UN Influencers:
"[10:33] Debbie: It's literally like the worst three things combined in one. And they said, those are the influencers that you're gonna see. They're all fair, rich, and pretty."
Debbie on the Gucci tights scandal:
"[29:37] Debbie: They bought a pair of Gucci tights and split it amongst 20 people... eight of them at the same time get a foot fungus."
Chris expressing disbelief:
"[33:31] Chris: $10,000?"
Debbie on the manipulation of social media:
"[32:33] Debbie: If you see me posing in a hotel next to the window. No, you fucking did it. That was natural."
Debbie reflecting on cultural pressures:
"[42:46] Debbie: I'm in a rabbit hole. I can't get out of the China verse. I love it here. There's so much going on."
Conclusion
In this episode of Moral Of The Story, Stephanie Soo provides a compelling examination of the deceptive practices among Chinese influencers, highlighting how the pursuit of fame and prestige can lead to elaborate scams and social media manipulation. Through insightful dialogue with Chris, the episode underscores the importance of vigilance and critical thinking in the digital age, encouraging listeners to question the authenticity of the content they consume.