TRY GUYS Ned Fulmer Disrespects Wife In PUBLIC AFFAIR Then Disrespects Internet With AWFUL Comeback

Summary

Moral Of The Story with Stephanie Soo

Episode Title: TRY GUYS Ned Fulmer Disrespects Wife In PUBLIC AFFAIR Then Disrespects Internet With AWFUL Comeback
Date: January 16, 2026
Host: Stephanie Soo
Theme: Dissecting the Ned Fulmer cheating scandal, his public downfall, and cringe-worthy attempted comeback—told in Stephanie’s signature storytime style, with her husband as the bemused audience and a healthy dose of unfiltered commentary.

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Episode Overview

Stephanie dishes to her husband about the wild trajectory of the Ned Fulmer scandal: how a founding Try Guy went from “Wife Guy” to internet pariah after being caught in a public, morally messy affair, and then how his attempted return to the internet world flopped spectacularly. The conversation (full of memes, disbelief, and iconic quotes) covers Ned and Ariel’s saga, the Try Guys' fallout, and Ned’s embarrassing attempts at rebranding—all with zero moralizing, but plenty of biting humor and empathy for Ariel.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Who is Ned Fulmer?

[01:57–03:46]

• Stephanie and her husband encounter viral TikToks of a shirtless, wrestling Ned Fulmer, leading to her husband’s bafflement about who Ned even is.
• Ned Fulmer: Former Try Guy, infamous for the “wife guy” persona, ejected from the Try Guys amid a cheating scandal.
• “His whole shtick is that he has a wife and he has two children. And, like, that’s the only reason I think Ned Fulmer is palatable.” (Host, [10:33])

2. The Cheating Gets Exposed—In The WORST Way

[05:21–14:49]

• Ned is seen at a Harry Styles concert with producer Alex—not his wife Ariel. Fans spot them, sense the oddness, and sparks curiosity online.
• Subreddit sleuthing unearths multiple allegations:
  • 2021 post about Ned hitting on a woman at a NYC bar.
  • Several people (in Sept 2022) report sightings of Ned making out with Alex in public.
• Eventually, photographic proof emerges of Ned and Alex at a bar—making the allegations undeniable.
• “Watch out. Because there are allegations they were doing it in a Tesla.” (Host, [14:40])

3. The Fall Out: Try Guys & Internet React

[19:54–21:37]

• Ned is rapidly scrubbed from Try Guys YouTube videos; removed from podcasts and social feeds.
• The secrecy was such that fans noticed his notable absence before the official reveal.
• Try Guys' response: A somber ‘no longer working with us’ statement. Eugene’s visible anger becomes meme-worthy.
• “SNL did a skit on it... it was less making fun of Ned and more making fun of the Try Guys and the three of them on the couch addressing the scandal.” (Host, [56:15])

4. Ned’s (Cursed) Comeback Attempt

[22:13–35:54]

• After three years in hiding, Ned attempts a rebrand:
  • Two new YouTube channels: “Rock Bottom with Ned Fulmer” (podcast) & “Ned Fulmer” (general content).
  • Multiple videos (e.g., boxing, walking 50 miles for MS, “blind dating” shows) with suspiciously high view counts but few comments.
• “He’s buying views allegedly. Who? Don’t sue me for defamation... a million people watched it and only 400 people have thoughts about it. That’s crazy.” (Host, [22:50])

Notable Comeback Fails:

• Walking to Disneyland for MS:
  “It’s sad because... he does have MS. But a lot of people are upset with him because it seems like he’s talking about it purely to make people feel sympathy... However, MS does not make you cheat on your wife and children.” (Host, [25:10])
• Cringe Boxing/Wrestling Video:
  Turns out to be a staged YouTube stunt.
  “The announcer is like, a social media sensation enters the ring, and I’m like, oh my god, it’s getting cheesy.” (Host, [33:04])
• Corporate, soulless video style:
  “His videos feel like the backrooms.” (Host, [35:54]) “He has the personality of stale Cheesecake Factory bread.” (Comment quoted by Host, [37:56])

5. The “Redemption” Podcast with Ariel: Worse Than Expected

[63:35–78:37]

• Ned and Ariel release a tense, awkward podcast “addressing the scandal.”
• Opening lines:
  “Hi, I’m Ned Fulmer. Three years ago, I cheated on my wife with my producer.” ([63:35])
• Ariel details the trauma: stalked by paparazzi, lost friends, lost trust, lost freedom. Ned is largely expressionless or tone-deaf, delivers limp apologies, and tries to “therapy-speak” his way out.
• Ariel, poised yet cutting, delivers possibly the most iconic line in the saga:
  • [75:09] Ariel (to Ned): “You think you’re interesting enough?”
  • Ned sheepishly: “No, I don’t.”
• Internet universal reaction is to praise Ariel’s poise and dry humor, while Ned becomes a meme of cringe-worthy, self-centered comebacks.
• “Her visceral disgust with him the entire podcast episode is so incredible. I love her so much, and I’m so glad that she kicked—” (Host, [77:18])

6. Extra Insights and Social Fallout

• Power Imbalance: Ned’s affair with an employee (Alex) while also being her HR/report, adding a layer of workplace ethics violations.
  “The power imbalance is crazy. And Alex is just like a producer... a massive power imbalance.” (Host, [50:01])
• Failed “forgiveness arc”: Instead of growth or true accountability, Ned’s content and statements keep missing the point and center himself.
• Ariel, meanwhile, has found solace in creative work—she now runs a pottery studio and avoids the public eye.

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Notable Quotes by Section

Cheating & Initial Internet Discovery

• “Where do you go to commit some nasty, disgusting, filthy moral crimes?... You don’t go to a Harry Styles concert.” – Stephanie, [02:57–05:26]
• “His whole shtick is that he has a wife... It’s like the only reason he has any redeeming qualities.” – Stephanie, [10:33]

Ned’s “Wife Guy” Persona

• “There are literal compilations of him going, ‘my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife...’” – Stephanie and husband in unison, [10:28–10:33]

Internet Fallout & Try Guys' Response

• “They just had a Food Network show... with TV, timing is everything... it pretty much killed all hopes of a renewed season.” – [55:15]

On Ned’s Rebrand & Internet Tone-Deafness

• “It just feels corporate. I can’t stop doing the Courtney Cook look. Okay? Just feels corporate.” – Stephanie, [21:37]
• “These videos feel like they were made for Nickelodeon, a 1am slot 10 years ago. They feel outdated. They feel kind of weird.” ([36:00])

Ariel’s Epic Zinger

• “You think you’re interesting enough?” – Ariel, [75:19]
• Ned: “No, I don’t.”

General Critique

• “He is now talking about [MS] at a time like this. [Having MS] does not make you cheat on your wife and children.” – Stephanie, [25:10]
• “He so desperately wants to be the victim of his own crime that he perpetrated.” – Stephanie, [73:21]

On Forgiveness and Moving On

• “I've never been more confused in my life. I mean, he has a Yale degree. Why can't he get a job?” – Stephanie, [80:00]
• “Like, you don’t have to be a public figure. That’s not part of human healing.” – [80:04]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|------------------------------------------------| | 01:57 | Introduction of Ned Fulmer, viral TikToks | | 05:21 | Ned and Alex spotted at Harry Styles concert | | 10:28 | “Wife guy” montage; disbelief over cheating | | 14:00 | Allegations/evidence emerge (photo at bar) | | 19:54 | Ned absent from Try Guys, rumors ignite | | 21:37 | The “corporate rebrand” vibe | | 22:13–35:54 | Critique of Ned’s new (awkward) content/videos | | 63:35 | Ned & Ariel’s podcast “apology” episode | | 75:09 | Ariel: “You think you’re interesting enough?” | | 77:18 | Internet reactions, Wendy’s comment, closure | | 78:37 | Ariel moves on—pottery studio, offline life | | 80:00 | Stephanie’s reflection, why Ned can’t just “get a job” |

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The Episode’s Tone & Takeaways

• Language: Conversational, meme-filled, sarcastic, with a strong dose of empathy for Ariel.
• Moral: As Stephanie notes up top—the story is chaotic and “the moral is—well, there is none.”
  (But implicit is a warning about hypocrisy, internet fame, and how NOT to handle a public scandal.)
• Memorable Moments:
  • Ariel’s dry “You think you’re interesting enough?”
  • The host’s recurring “Whose fault is that? Ned’s fault.”
  • Endless “my wife” montage punctuating Ned’s collapse.
  • Stephanie’s exasperation at Ned’s never-ending, self-centered fake apologies.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode recounts the Ned Fulmer saga with all the juicy Reddit receipts, memes, and post-scandal weirdness, but centers on how not to handle public disgrace. It’s a celebration of Ariel’s quiet dignity, an evisceration of Ned’s victim-complex rebrand, and a genuinely funny, cathartic vent about one of YouTube’s most infamous betrayals.

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Further Listening & Links

• Ariel’s Pottery Studio: Host mentions she now runs her own website/store.
• Try Guys Remaining Content: The fate of the group post-scandal covered in-depth.
• Stephanie’s Social Media: For the host’s signature storytime podcasting.

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End of Summary

— (Ad sections/tangents omitted. All timestamps MM:SS, notable quotes cited, and podcast’s original tone maintained.)

Transcript

[Podcast Host]

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[Podcast Host]

We were on TikTok the other day and we keep getting these TikTok videos of shirtless Ned. You're wondering, who's Ned? Why is he shirtless? Ned Fulmer, as in the former try guy casted out for his cheating scandal. That Ned Fulmer. He's shirtless and he's in this ring full of sweaty men and he's touching these other sweaty men. He's wrestling. I don't know why he's wrestling. And my husband was like, who is he again? And I'm like, it's Ned Fulmer. And then pulling up my phone, I go to YouTube, I show him the video with Ned Fulmer and his wife.

[Co-host or Guest]

Ariel, the podcast that went viral three months ago.

[Podcast Host]

And then he goes, wait, so this is his wife I'm like, x, yeah, wife. He's like, wait, so he cheated, but they're doing a podcast.

[Co-host or Guest]

I'm like, how do you not know anything that's going on?

[Podcast Host]

So this.

[Co-host or Guest]

This entire episode is dedicated to my husband. What do you know about the situation?

[Podcast Host]

He cheated and they broke up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Right.

So that's what today's episode is going to be about. And I do want to say that our YouTube feeds are just so drastically different, because I don't know how he doesn't know the entire lore of what happened in 2022.

[Podcast Host]

The Harry Styles concert, the pictures, the old Buzzfeed videos, the deleted vid. Anyway, where do you go if you want to commit some nasty, disgusting, filthy moral crimes? In a poochie outfit. Nasty. In a poochie outfit. You're committing some crimes. Where do you go? Give me, like, the top three places that you would go. It's not illegal. It's just morally, ethically not allowed. Where do you go to commit these types of crimes?

[Co-host or Guest]

Where do you go?

[Podcast Host]

Okay, here's where I would go.

[Co-host or Guest]

I would go to an alleyway in.

[Podcast Host]

New York City, like one of those, like, small side streets, and I would be with a group of people, because you don't commit moral crimes alone. Like, that's too much for your moral compass.

[Co-host or Guest]

You got to have a group so.

[Podcast Host]

That you can split out the accountability. You go with the group. You're standing there in the alleyway, and you're comparing the condiment bowl that you just stole from the diner that you really shouldn't have stolen.

[Co-host or Guest]

But.

[Podcast Host]

But maybe you're a little drunk, and you don't get drunk often. And so you stole it.

[Co-host or Guest]

And you know what?

[Podcast Host]

You looked into it, and this restaurant is not owned by a mom and pop shop, okay? This is like a corporate.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's a Cheesecake Factory. I stole the basket of bread from the Cheesecake Factory. F. Cking sue me. That's probably illegal, actually. Okay? But I stole it.

[Podcast Host]

They said it's free bread. I took the basket. Are you mad? Probably. But now I'm in this alleyway. Nasty. In a poochie outfit, and I'm asking every single person, did you guys happen to bring a dog?

[Co-host or Guest]

Huh?

[Podcast Host]

You're like, what dog? I'm like, oh, never mind. It's just a rat gnawing on my pants.

[Co-host or Guest]

Then I really thought this through. I thought through everything. And then we go and we run and I drop my bread basket that.

[Podcast Host]

I just stole, and when I get.

[Co-host or Guest]

Back home, I don't have the bread.

[Podcast Host]

Basket that I committed moral crimes with. Because that's what I get. That's karma.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay?

[Podcast Host]

So if you want to commit nasty, unethical crimes, you go to Cheesecake Factory, and then you go to a little side street in New York City. You don't go, however, you do not go to a Harry Styles concert. Harry Styles concerts are strictly for a few things. You go to a Harry Styles concert for good music. You go to a Harry Styles concert if your name is your name and.

[Co-host or Guest]

You'Re trying to get kidnapped.

[Podcast Host]

That's it.

[Co-host or Guest]

Those are the only two reasons. There's no other reason to go to.

[Podcast Host]

A Harry Styles concert.

[Co-host or Guest]

And it's definitely the last place you.

[Podcast Host]

Want to go if you're cheating on.

[Co-host or Guest]

Your wife and kids and you decide, why don't I just go out with.

[Podcast Host]

My mistress for a fun little date.

[Co-host or Guest]

At a Harry Styles concert.

Wait, who is the one that went viral?

This is Ned Fulmer. This is Ned.

I know.

Coldplay. Cold.

Cold Play concert.

[Podcast Host]

You don't go to a Coldplay concert either.

[Co-host or Guest]

You just don't go to a concert.

Is that the only two?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, Coldplay, Harry Styles.

[Co-host or Guest]

Dang. It's the concerts.

[Podcast Host]

Oh. I don't know why people would think it's safe either.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I don't get it. You're in, like a.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's like stadium.

Exactly.

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There's.

[Co-host or Guest]

You're surrounded by thousands of people and.

Thousands of people with their phones up, like, recording the whole experience, too. So I really don't understand.

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No.

[Podcast Host]

That's weird.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's crazy.

So bald.

[Podcast Host]

Where would you go if you were.

[Co-host or Guest]

Cheating in the 21st century?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

With the amount of cameras that's out there and the cell phones out there, how could anybody cheat?

[Podcast Host]

Everything is everything.

[Co-host or Guest]

You have a digital footprint. There's receipts on everything you do.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

Every message, every phone call, every even.

[Podcast Host]

Every look.

[Co-host or Guest]

Every look. Every look.

[Podcast Host]

Like, imagine you're, like, looking at a neighbor while you're opening up the front door and you're checking out her butt.

[Co-host or Guest]

I'll be watching on the camera. I'll be watching on the camera. We have a little snack bar outside for the delivery drivers.

[Podcast Host]

And we be watching because every single time my family members come over, why are they walking away with groceries?

[Co-host or Guest]

Why are they walking away with enough snacks for the entire week?

It's mia.

No. Oh, my God. I wish I could show you this video. So we told my nieces, hey, this.

[Podcast Host]

Little snack thing outside, this is strictly for delivery drivers. I got two nieces, okay? And the oldest one, Sophie, she is, like, a rule follower. She's kind of like me, where she's like, okay, if an adult told me not to do it, I'm probably not gonna do it. Which means she's. She's gonna get rebellious later. But right now, she follows the rules. So they come in one day from.

[Co-host or Guest]

The front door, and we see Sophie run past the snack bar.

Also, just so everyone knows, Sophie is, like, almost five.

[Podcast Host]

Mia is four.

[Co-host or Guest]

Almost four.

Yeah. And then Mia comes running in, and we had to replay this footage because her left hand, without even looking at the snack bar, chucks a bag of snacks. And then she runs into the house. She doesn't look at the snack bar. She doesn't pick and choose. It was, like, pure convenience. And she. It was so smooth.

[Podcast Host]

And then when she got in, everyone was like, where are we getting all these chips?

[Co-host or Guest]

And I was like, that's a good question. Check the camera. Anyway, everything is caught on film is.

[Podcast Host]

What we're trying to say. You can't get away with anything in this day and age. Now, Ned Fulmer from the Try Guys is spotted with one of the producers of the Try Guys, the production manager for the Try Guys company at a Harry Styles concert in New York City. Is that the craziest thing in the world? Maybe not. Perhaps not. Okay. A fan runs into Ned and Alex at a Harry Styles concert, asks Ned for a photo because she watches the Try Guys. She's a fan of Ned Fulmer. Well, I don't know if she's a fan of Ned Fulmer, but she's a fan of the Try Guys. She takes this photo, and then she just. I guess she just feels weird about it because the whole thing about he's out at a Harry Styles concert with a producer. We don't see his wife anywhere. And then she said, okay, well, maybe it was like a work thing. So she's browsing online, watching all of their socials, and she doesn't see, like, this big group picture with all the Try Guys team at the Harry Styles concert. Because I think that would explain away everything if I'm not. I mean, this is me guessing and speculating, but perhaps it's like. It's the fact that the producer was annoyed when she approached Ned, because that's very weird. Like, I guess I would imagine if I went out with someone from the Rotten Mango team, and then we're, like, out on the streets of New York and we run into a viewer and they want to take a picture with me, and the person who works with us is acting annoyed or seems annoyed. I feel like, that would be very odd behavior.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's like, okay, well, this is the reason we have jobs. So, like, why are you annoyed?

[Podcast Host]

It doesn't make any sense. Like, this is just odd. It's weird. And then, so she's browsing online and she does see that other producers from the Try Guys team did go to a Harry Styles concert in New York City. But, like, you know how a lot of concerts, like, they have the Friday night show, Saturday night show, sometimes the Sunday show. They don't see a whole group photo with Ned and Alex with the other producers. So they just thought it was weird. They post it. A lot of people think, okay, well, maybe this is like our constitutional right as an American to just overthink sh. T. To make sh. T Up online and forget about libel and defamation. And we just be having speculations. We be having allegedly, in my opinion, your honor. I said allegedly, your honor. Like, we're just having those moments online. But then people start digging up stuff from the Try Guys subreddit. Because I would say the initial reaction everybody's having is, no, no, no, no, you don'. Ned's the wife guy. They call him the wife guy. Because the other Try guys have personalities. Ned, there are literal compilations of him going, my wife, my wife, my wife.

[Co-host or Guest]

My wife, my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

My wife, my wife, my wife, my wife.

[Podcast Host]

His whole shtick is that he has a wife and he has two children. And, like, that's the only reason I think Ned Fulmer is palatable.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

About to off road.

[Podcast Host]

It genuinely, it's like the only reason he has any redeeming qualities. Because I would say that he's like the least, least charismatic out of the Try Guys. What are you trying to say, bruh? I mean, I wouldn't even say that it compares. He doesn't really have charisma. It's just he's so obsessed with his wife that maybe that's his charisma. And so people are like, no, there's no way. But then someone digs up a post from a year ago. People are going crazy on the Try Guys subreddit.

[Co-host or Guest]

Listen, subreddits are terrifying places. The try guy subreddit, September 2022. I bet you it gave them, like, heart palpitations. Like, there's no way that they did not experience medical emergencies because of the subreddit. Like, I just. I don't believe it.

[Podcast Host]

Anyway, they dig up another post from a year ago. So now we're talking A post from 2021, from the Try guys subreddit, and it's talking about how, hey, you know that whole guy whose whole shtick is, I have. I love my wife and kids. He was hitting on my friend at the bars in New York City. So people are like, what do you mean? Tell us more. What do you mean?

[Co-host or Guest]

Ned Fulmer was hitting on your friend? He's got a whole wife that he's obsessed with. Have you seen the videos? My wife.

[Podcast Host]

My wife.

[Co-host or Guest]

My wife. Have you seen.

[Podcast Host]

And so they elaborate, and this is like an unverified, unconfirmed. Could be making it out of their. A hole. They could be having delusions of grandeur in their head. And they're typing it out on Reddit. Because that's what we do on Reddit. That is, that's like in our Bill of Rights as an American, we make it up on Reddit. So they're like, okay, so this is what happened. My friend was dancing at the bar and he just kept trying to kiss her neck, kept trying to get her to grind on him, and she kept trying to move away, but he kept being like, you want to come back to my hotel? Hey, I'll give you backstage passes to our show tomorrow. Because I guess the Try guys are in town for a show tomorrow, and the commentator is like. And so the whole rest of the night, I'm trying to rack my brain around what the f are people paying their show for? Like, why are they going to their show? What.

[Co-host or Guest]

What could they possibly be doing at their show?

[Podcast Host]

Which is oddly rude for a post like this, but came out of nowhere. So this is unverified. People ripped them apart in the comment section because this is from 2021.

[Co-host or Guest]

They ripped the poster apart.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

They're like, what do you mean he's not. There's no way. Like, maybe you thought it was a. Okay, it's not Ned Fulmer. Maybe he just looked like Ned, which.

[Podcast Host]

He just looks like a Whatever dude.

[Co-host or Guest]

So, like, probably just looks like Ned.

[Podcast Host]

They all kind of look like that. Ned has a relatively longer distance between his nose and the top of his forehead, which is not considered to be most conventionally attractive. Ned has the softest jawline of all the men, which makes him the most desirable in terms of long term partnership.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

It all makes sense now.

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So if somebody says you look like you're married, it makes sense. Makes total sense.

[Podcast Host]

Then this gets re dug up and people are like, wait a minute. Perhaps it could have been Ned. And then another post, September 2022, starts going viral. Multiple people have seen Ned around New York City this week, making out with women at the local bars. It's unfortunate for Ariel, his family and the tri team, but this is true. People are like, but how do we know it's true? So one of the top comments for that post was saying something along the lines of like, source I made this up. Being like, you don't even have proof and you're just making stuff up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Source me, source my brain.

[Podcast Host]

Like that type of comment, the poster of that. And that person start DMing private messaging and they start sending all sorts of proof, such as this picture. This picture does not come out for a little while. So this is why things get confusing. But there is a picture that now we have probably all seen is of Ned at. At a bar making out with Alex, the producer. And people have cross referenced the dress that she's wearing with the dress that she's already worn on her Instagram with her purse. It's a purse that she owns. Ned looks like he's wearing the same thing that he's worn in other clothes.

[Co-host or Guest]

You can see their features or.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

And there were people around them in a public.

[Podcast Host]

It's like full to the brim with people. Just watch out. Because there are allegations they were doing it in a Tesla.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hold on.

[Podcast Host]

It gets crazy.

[Co-host or Guest]

No, it gets. It's so psychotically bizarre.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, so all we know now is like, this picture hasn't come out yet. We just keep hearing whispers on the subreddit of proof and like someone sent proof and like all of these things are all happening at once and then.

[Co-host or Guest]

Crazy, huh?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

You're just like full on making a full ass bar.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And there's other pictures that get submitted later from earlier where they're eating lunch.

[Co-host or Guest]

I'm so confused.

[Podcast Host]

On the side of the street in New York City.

[Co-host or Guest]

They don't even wear sunglasses. A hat.

[Podcast Host]

No. Okay, so there's this picture of them eating lunch in New York City. And it's. You know how like those little cafes, they'll have like the outside seating and it's. But it's like apart from the restaurant anyway. And it's like two people on. It's like a bistro sitting. So it's like one person. One person. And they're all smushed together. Well, it's a picture. So you see all of their bodies. You see the whole table. You see underneath the table and everything.

[Co-host or Guest]

Because it's just on the streets of New York City.

[Podcast Host]

What do you mean? Right.

[Co-host or Guest]

They're just playing fatigue.

[Podcast Host]

And this is what's crazy. Just judging from the body language of that photo.

[Co-host or Guest]

They're doing it.

[Podcast Host]

No, it's not that they're doing it. See, that's the. That's the weird thing. It's not a sexual photo. It's not like a hot and steamy photo. Oh, this photo makes me mad. Okay. It's like, you can tell that they're very comfortable with each other. And the part that's worse about that is the fact that, like, at what point do you get comfortable enough with the person you're having an affair with to sit like that at a dinner or, like, at a lunch?

[Co-host or Guest]

So how are they sitting?

[Podcast Host]

Okay, so Ned is sitting there, and he's leaned back against the chair, and his legs are completely outstretched. So he's all up in her table space. Which you only do that if you're very comfortable with the person or if you're, like, the biggest douchebag in the world and everyone hates you and no one will ever sit and eat lunch with you ever again.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, his legs are under her seat. Seat.

[Podcast Host]

Like, it's spread wide open. So it's not under her seat, but it's like her legs are in between his legs, but, like, not in, like, a sexual way. Does that make sense? Because it's like a small table, and then she's sitting there, and then they look really comfortable in the sense of, like, they're both on their phones. Now. There's speculations that they could be looking at menus because New York City loves doing those QR code menus that will be the death of every single person alive. Okay.

[Co-host or Guest]

Genuinely the worst.

[Podcast Host]

It's especially the worst when they, like, print out the QR code. Now I'm like, you're not even really saving paper. You, like, printed out all these QR codes and you laminated them all, and.

[Co-host or Guest]

Now you got QR codes floating around everywhere.

[Podcast Host]

And then sometimes it doesn't load quickly.

[Co-host or Guest]

Well, hot take. I like the digital one.

You like the QR code?

Yeah, because it's, like, so much easier to zoom in and.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

What?

[Podcast Host]

No, but then it, like, disappears. So. So you're waiting, okay. You go to the QR code menu, and then you pick out the things that you want. And then you're anxious because the. The server is going to come and take your order, and you're, like, practicing in your head, okay. But then you're like, okay, I don't want to be so anxious. I got to think about other things. So then you're like, go to your email and you're responding to emails or whatever.

[Co-host or Guest]

And then they come and they're like, oh, yeah, what do you want?

[Podcast Host]

And I'm like, oh, my God. And then I go to Safari, but.

[Co-host or Guest]

Then my little thing is gone, so I'm like, oh, my God. Do I need to scan the QR code again? It's just not loading because the service is bad. So then now I'm like, panicking.

Wow.

I'm sorry. That's what you're battling every time that you're not there and I gotta order for myself. That is the experience. Okay? And then sometimes if it's like, you.

[Podcast Host]

Know how you put a privacy screen on my phone? You were like, honey, you need a privacy screen. So then you put that on my phone. Then you can't even be like, can I get this one? And especially if you're like, at a.

[Co-host or Guest]

French restaurant and you're like, what's a Vichy swap? You know what I mean? I don't know. And then sometimes the servers are nice and they go, ooh, that's a good one. And they'll write it down.

[Podcast Host]

Or they go, a what? And then you have to go, vichy sauce. And they go.

[Co-host or Guest]

And you go, isn't that what I just said?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

No, I'm sweating. I'm sweating thinking about this. I'm so stressed.

Why are you so red?

I'm so stressed.

That's crazy.

What the f. Do I hate the QR code.

[Podcast Host]

I'm just. Someone's gonna put in the comments, like.

[Co-host or Guest]

A really reasonable explanation of why QR codes exist, and I'm gonna feel like a person. So. Okay, maybe. Maybe they're good. I don't know.

[Podcast Host]

Anyway, some people are like, Alex and Ned are reading the menu is on their phone. That's why they look so comfortable. Other people are saying no. They're texting their spouses. Either way, it's bad. It's bad. So at this point, Ned is just not in any of the Try Guys stuff. Since all of this starts blowing up on Reddit. We don't have that picture from the club out yet. We don't have confirmation.

[Co-host or Guest]

So all rumors.

[Podcast Host]

All rumors, allegations. But the allegations are semi confirmed by the fact that Ned's not in any videos. Ned's not in any Instagram post. He is in one promotional video where it's of all the Try guys doing something for Food Network. But that seems like it was filmed a long time ago. Because the Food Network thing has been in the works for a really long time. And it almost seems like an obligation that they have to post it for the Food Network. But other than that, he's not on the Tripod. The podcast. The Try guys have a podcast, the Tripod. I know their naming is, like, really good.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, like a tripod.

[Podcast Host]

He's not on there. And in fact, the next episode is Zach, one of the Try guys. He's talking about his week and he says, you know, I'm okay, but I'm surviving. Like, it's been a rough week, but I'm surviving. And everyone's like, what are you surviving?

[Co-host or Guest]

Because we have ideas.

[Podcast Host]

But are we correct when I tell.

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[Podcast Host]

The Try wives, they also have their own podcast. You can sit with us, which Ariel is also a part of, but she just vanishes from the podcast episodes. So does Ned. Ned's not on the Tripod. So we know that something is happening before we know that something is happening. And if you know what's happened in 2022, you know that everyone does come out and they confirm the cheating and it's like a big explosion on YouTube. But before we get there, I have to talk to you about where we are now. So fast forward three years later into the good old year of 2025, and it's like. Have you ever gone onto a YouTube channel and it's like a corporate eruption. I don't have any other work words to describe it. It's just what a video feels like.

[Co-host or Guest]

Corporate ertion.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's like a corporate hard on. It's like. It's like a guys in suits in a boardroom that don't know anything about anything. And they're getting bonbons off of these types of videos. Even the banner for this YouTube channel reads, Building a more curious world. I'm sorry, are you fucking TED Talk? Okay. It's crazy. It's crazy. It just feels corporate. I can't stop doing the Courtney Cook look. Okay, Just feels corporate. And there's videos that are being posted. And this is Ned Fulmer's rebrand.

[Co-host or Guest]

He comes back after this whole cheating scandal. Three years later, he's got two channels.

It's been three years.

[Podcast Host]

It's been three years. It's been three years. Wow. Okay, he comes back, he has two channels, Rock Bottom with Ned Fulmer, which is his podcast channel. And then he has the Ned Fulmer channel. And this NE Fulmer came by with two channels. Two channels. Two channels. And this Ned Fulmer channel has been. Has been doing some dirty.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay, so the recent, recent viral video.

[Podcast Host]

I will say on there, by the way, he's buying views Allegedly. Who?

[Co-host or Guest]

Don't sue me for defamation.

[Podcast Host]

I think in my opinion, as someone.

[Co-host or Guest]

Who'S been on YouTube for a minute.

[Podcast Host]

He'S buying views or someone's buying views or someone's body.

[Co-host or Guest]

Why?

[Podcast Host]

Because, you know, you get a video with a million views and tell me why. Only 400 people have commented.

[Co-host or Guest]

And it's not like a loafy lo.

[Podcast Host]

Fi music playlist, throw in the back type of video. Also, people are. Yeah, people are only watching him to hate watch. Usually when you have a hate watched video, you're gonna get so many comments.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

[Podcast Host]

No, the views don't make sense. A million people watched it and only 400 people have thoughts about it. That's crazy. Okay. And then there's another one where he says, I have Ms. So he says he starts off this video, and this video has recently gone viral where he's gonna walk 50 miles from Los Angeles to Disneyland to raise awareness for the National Ms. Society, which he feels very emotionally tied to this entire organization because he was diagnosed with Ms. Back in 2013. He's since been in remission and he starts walking from Los Angeles to Disneyland. And it's like a you can't stop walking type of thing. Cause that's how you raise awareness and you're trying to raise money. I think he was trying to raise like $100,000. I think he raised like less than a thousand dollars. It was really bad. What? He starts making friends along the way as he's walking. Like there will be pit stops of people who were told to be there at a certain time, bring him food or talk to him while they're walking. And like, that's cute. Like, the friends he makes along the way are actually very cute. It's like the very wholesome part of the video. They seem like very sweet people. Then at night he starts walking by himself and he has to walk, walk 50 miles. And as he's walking, vlog camera style, I gotta show you. And it's sad because, okay, he does have Ms. It's not like he's lying about any of this. But a lot of people are upset with him because it seems like he's talking about it purely to make people feel sympathy because he was diagnosed back in 2013. A lot of people with Ms. Say, hey, listen, Ms. is so bad. I would not wish this upon my worst enemy in life. Like, it is not something that you want. It's not something you want to get sympathy from people. Like, the worst thing ever. Like, you do not want this. It's Bad. It's bad. However, however, Mississippi does not make you cheat on your wife and children. So, like, we don't know why he's bringing it up now.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Hello, friends. I have hit 24 miles. Just the pain in my hips and my hip flexors are. Is getting pretty bad. Yeah, I'm really. I'm like feeling like I'm not able to. Able to walk straight anymore.

[Co-host or Guest]

That feels like a ghost hunting video is what people are saying. Like, why is he crying and doing like dramatic salmon Colby, like ghost hunter movie style.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Like, hit 25 miles. Wow. I've been walking for 13 hours and 55,000 steps. I made it to 26.27.

[Podcast Host]

Just to give you context, a lot of people say, like, 26 miles is a regular marathon. So it's actually not like over exertion of your body, especially if you're an able bodied person.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

So I have completed a marathon. That's amazing.

[Co-host or Guest]

So, like, people just like making fun of him. Like, this is like a really extra video.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

26.2 miles makes it really tempting to stop up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, have I had mental breakdowns such as this? Yes, absolutely. Yes. But I don't know if, like, I would do this after a cheating scandal during a rebrand.

Exactly.

No, the watch that he just. It's not funny. It's not funny.

Okay. I think the problem is, like, he probably made it seem like it's such a struggle. You guys should feel bad.

Yeah.

But it's very hard to feel bad for him. Yeah, it's very hard to feel bad.

Anybody else, I probably would feel bad.

Care a little more.

But like, yeah, also, why are you in a fetal position like next to a car dealership and a McDonald's? Like, sir, we're just here to buy. Alexis. Like, why are you here right now? Not the sad music.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, this is the part people thought was so funny. He's showing off his foot. And have you ever met a guy?

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay, stop. Sometimes I will meet a guy.

[Podcast Host]

Not for like dating. Okay. But I'll just meet a guy.

[Co-host or Guest]

It'll be like a family friend who comes over and. You ever see a guy with hands that are as pure as a baby's skin?

[Podcast Host]

I think it's crazy. I think it's incredible.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay, so first of all, I know that you've never worked hard labor a.

[Podcast Host]

Day in your life, but not everybody has to. Not everybody has to. But I also know that you've never.

[Co-host or Guest]

Built an IKEA bookshelf ever a day in your life.

[Podcast Host]

Okay? And I also additionally know that You've never washed dishes repetitively with high heat water. Just getting in the soap suds because that naturally does something to your hands. It strips it of its natural oils. Over time it becomes a thing. I know that you've never done any of that.

[Co-host or Guest]

His foot is a representation. There's not a single callus.

I was expecting like, like there's some blood on the bottom or something.

No, it's like perfect baby.

Are we analyzing his shirt right now?

It's actually like also his toes are shaped perfectly that they haven't like been scrunched up in some like steel toed boots.

[Podcast Host]

They haven't been like squished in sneakers where he had to like work the.

[Co-host or Guest]

Back of a restaurant or something. You know what I mean?

What is he showing us though?

[Podcast Host]

Oh, there's like a blister right here. Right there. I get worse blisters from a new pair of shoes.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's true.

I get new blisters, like worse blisters. A new pair of new balances.

[Podcast Host]

You don't understand.

[Co-host or Guest]

They'll you up. I know we shouldn't laugh but like he's so distraught over this.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

God, I have a gigantic blood blister here.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I didn't make it to Disneyland, but I am really proud of myself for making it 26.2 miles a marathon distance.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. A lot of people netizens were also saying like I want to be proud of myself the way a mediocre white man like Ned Fulmer is proud of himself.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like he be proud of himself for nothing. Like you just feel pride.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I'm just feeling a lot of feelings right now. So happy to be done.

[Co-host or Guest]

Why is your face this? This is your face.

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So a lot of people are saying it's not the fact that he has Ms. A lot of people feel sympathy for that. It's the fact that he is now talking about it at a time like this. Then we go into the next video. So the reason that I'm covering a lot of his recent videos is my.

[Co-host or Guest]

Husband keep keeps coming across him boxing because I think with the recent like Jake Paul match, even one of the.

[Podcast Host]

People on our RM team members, she was like, hey, I keep getting tiktoks of Jake Paul getting his jaw smashed. And she was like, why would he do that? And I was like, I don't know, he's a loser. And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, never mind.

[Co-host or Guest]

He made a hundred million dollars. I'm the loser. Okay. We're all losers. Was crazy. So I think Ever since then, though, they have been pushing the algorithm of like YouTuber in the boxing ring. And so I too have gotten clips of Ned Fulmer in a boxing ring.

[Podcast Host]

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[Podcast Host]

And I thought that he was going down the Jake Paul route. He's going to start boxing. Turns out it's just for a video. He tries boxing for a day and they set up. Which makes it so much worse because when you watch the actual video, he's in the boxing ring, he takes off his shirt. The announcer is like a social media sensation, enters the ring, and I'm like, oh, my God, it's getting cheesy.

[Co-host or Guest]

And then people paid to watch this fight go down. The stands are filled with people.

[Podcast Host]

Turns out it's for a YouTube video.

[Co-host or Guest]

Which means all those people he brought in himself, they're not even paying to watch him fight.

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[Podcast Host]

He's getting the whole boxing experience without boxing. Okay. No, I think it's wrestling.

[Co-host or Guest]

So it wasn't like a match.

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, he makes money on.

[Podcast Host]

He's not making $99 million sitting with their jaw wired shut. Imagine being like, Jake Paul's surrounding circle right now. You're like, yeah, he can't even talk.

[Co-host or Guest]

I bet that would be everyone in my circle.

[Podcast Host]

She.

[Co-host or Guest]

He's finally quiet.

[Podcast Host]

No, but he's not. He's not getting paid. He paid probably to have this entire video. And he said that this is his alter ego of, like, a social media influencer. Like, total. Like, I just got off my private jet.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

A real just like, LA influencer, you know, playing up the fact that I'm making a YouTube video. Just, I just flew off my private jet. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And then at one point, the trainer is like, you gotta really step into the Persona. Like, you gotta be a douchebag. That's half of the whole thing with wrestling. It's like, you gotta. You gotta talk. And he keeps doing this thing where he goes up to the camera and he talks. And then he's like, I can't do this. I can't do this.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Wow. So I'm trying to make myself unlikable.

[Podcast Host]

Where he's like, I'm so distraught. Even pretending to be a bad person. You're a bad person. I'm so confused.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I don't like him at all.

[Co-host or Guest]

So he does this the entire video before he goes into the wrestling ring.

[Podcast Host]

And nothing really happens. And every single video on this Ned Fulmer channel just doesn't make sense. It's like if I went into an AI generator and said, hey, give me a title for a YouTube video. Like, whatever you think will trend. It's like, I tried pro wrestling. I have Ms. Blind dating 5 guys and a secret AI addressing the problem.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's like the most random titles I.

[Podcast Host]

Got Roasted by a professional chef for making a. Like, he's ripping off Try Guys videos. He's making recipes without a recipe, which is a Try Guy thing. Without a recipe. Yeah. Makes.

[Co-host or Guest]

This is all his common feel with, like, just people making fun of him.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But not even a lot of people. Not even a lot of people are in the comments making fun of him.

[Co-host or Guest]

So people are just not giving him.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

Views.

[Podcast Host]

Like, even though blind dating five guys in secret. AI It's a dating show that is being hosted by Ned. Okay. This is being hosted by a guy who cheated on his wife and kids. The guy who had to disappear from the Internet for three years because of his cheating scandal. That guy is going to help someone find love. I don't know what's happening, but, like, his videos feel like the backrooms. I just have to show you a.

[Co-host or Guest]

Clip of the video.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Hi, I'm Ned Fulmer and welcome to Future Love.

[Podcast Host]

Do you see what I mean by corporate action?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I see show that explores dating, love and technology in the future. Artificial intelligence has absolutely, absolutely exploded and taken the world by storm. Billions of dollars are flowing into this new industry that is supposedly going to change the world with its lifelike dialogue and uncanny ability to replicate human speech.

[Co-host or Guest]

I swear, AI wrote that.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

There's no way can an AI trick someone into falling in love with them.

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[Podcast Host]

I don't know the feeling that I get from playing his videos. They feel like they were made for Nickelodeon, a 1am slot 10 years ago. They feel outdated. They feel kind of weird. The music choice, the lighting, the fonts, the edits. It makes me uncomfortable. Why are you sitting like this, sir? I just don't understand.

[Co-host or Guest]

Why did you have to set up three professional cameras for this shot? It would have done better with an A cam. Just one camera on the face. We didn't have to see the legs. We didn't have to see your pristine.

[Podcast Host]

Baby feet in those little shoes. This is like the type of video that they wheel out the little cart in school and they make you watch it for school. And like, the premise of this video doesn't even make sense. So they're going to be six guys. One of them is going to be AI So all of the answers are AI Written. It's like a simple enough concept. Ned's script, just like everything is AI.

[Co-host or Guest]

I don't know how to describe it.

[Podcast Host]

The music sounds like recycled soundtracks from HGTV from 20 years ago. It also just gives like, corporate safety.

[Co-host or Guest]

Video training music, but not even good.

[Podcast Host]

Ones I would actually rather watch an airplane safety videos because those be slapping these days.

[Co-host or Guest]

Have you seen the Philippines Airlines one? That one is so good where she's.

[Podcast Host]

Like, I can't fall in love with you. And then she's like putting her little bags up.

[Co-host or Guest]

So good.

[Podcast Host]

I would rather watch that. Okay, that eats the top comments for these video reads. He has the personality of of stale Cheesecake Factory bread. So this video, I think doesn't do as well as Ned Fulmer hopes because he just starts slinging pasta at the wall. He starts posting Can I Survive? Fighter jet G forces £1,400. That's literally a title of his video. He just keeps posting more and more videos until they stick and none of them are sticking. But then out of Nowhere, after the GeForce video, Ned Fulmer posts another one where he says that he's going to be addressing the situation. And he says, okay, so this video has a hundred thousand views and 2,340 comments. And this is clearly being ratioed. Everyone's giving their 10 cents and everything that's going on. He says, hello. I've heard a lot of the commentary and reactions about my podcast episode with Ariel. Okay, we're gonna get into that. And I wanted to take this video to address some of them. That episode with Ariel was mostly about her story. And now in this video, I will tell you more about about mine.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, okay.

[Podcast Host]

He said her story. That episode only exists because you cheated on her. That's your story too. And he just keeps acting like this is something that happened to him rather than he did something. And this is crazy because again, going back to the cheating scandal, there are pictures of him eating lunch with Alex, the producer in New York City, going to the Harry Styles concert, making out with her in a club. People are just confused at how he's downplaying all of it. So for the fact that he's trying to downplay it, I'm going to remind you of it.

[Co-host or Guest]

So like, this is after three years. Yes. Right.

[Podcast Host]

He comes back with a podcast episode with Ariel that we're gonna get into. But I feel like a lot of people have watched it already.

[Co-host or Guest]

And then that was like the biggest shocking thing.

[Podcast Host]

Yes, because even the way that he teased it. So for the past three years, nobody really knew if Ned and Ariel were still together. They were that gone from the Internet.

[Co-host or Guest]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

And there were, there were some sightings on the subreddit where people were saying, oh, I ran into them. I saw them at a Taylor Swift concert. So that Taylor Swift concert was a big thing because people thought that they were still together. Then other people were saying, no. I ran into Ned Fulmer at Disneyland. He didn't have his wedding band on, so there was a bunch of rumors, but nobody knew if they were still together or not. The way that he came out with this podcast, it made it seem like he and Ariel Fulmer were still together. They were gonna sit down and do a weekly episode together and talk about how they're repairing love after this entire thing. Like, that was the vibe it was giving. And a lot of people were really nervous. A lot of people on TikTok were.

[Co-host or Guest]

Saying, I'm literally going to fling myself.

[Podcast Host]

Outside of my bedroom window if she's staying with him. Not that they would blame her. Not that anything would be wrong with it if she chose to stay with him, but they would just be sad for whatever reason, because we're parasocial human beings. And no one knows why he's even coming back after the hiatus because he has no personality. So the other Try Guys, I wasn't, like, the biggest Try Guys fan. Not that I'm not a fan. I just didn't, like, watch a lot of their stuff. But I would say Zach is kind of like the goofier one. I would say Keith is, like, the really dad, wholesome vibe. And then Eugene is the cool guy. And then you've got Ned. I don't know what Ned is. Ned is the wife guy. I really don't know. Like, he. He has kind of like that YouTuber, like, overly enthusiastic about everything vibe.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, no, I know exactly who. What do you mean by that?

[Podcast Host]

No, you don't.

[Co-host or Guest]

You don't know.

[Podcast Host]

I do.

[Co-host or Guest]

What do you mean? What is this video?

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[Podcast Host]

What is this video? That's what we want to know. See, no one talks about this part, But I need you to see this part because I didn't know what to do about this part. It just made me so uncomfortable.

[Co-host or Guest]

What's going on? He's about to fly a jet. What is he doing?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, this guy's going to fly his jet.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

You and I are going to be flying today. We're going to be tearing up the sky, guys. I'm excited. It's really bright out here, though. Yeah. And give these a shot. Are these real aviator sunglasses? They are, man. The real deal. Oh, my gosh. Whoa. Oh.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hey.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

You like flying planes? Wow. This is exciting. This is our. This is our baby.

[Co-host or Guest]

This is our baby. This is our baby. Also, he's wearing the Zuck chain.

What is that?

[Podcast Host]

Mike Zuckerberg's chain? Like, remember how Mark Zuck had the Zuck chain? It's the same fit as Mark Zuckerberg.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Okay, right now on the ground, we're at 1G. We'll go all the way up to eight today, if you're feeling up to it. But there are some tricks to avoid passing out.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know what his personality is, really.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's just like, listen, I'm overly enthusiastic for things.

[Podcast Host]

He's. He's.

[Co-host or Guest]

He's a whole other level.

[Podcast Host]

His whole appeal was being a family man. Also, he did graduate from Yale. I don't know where any of that went in chemistry too. So I don't know if iq, eq, all went out the window, but, like, it seems like it did. Nobody really cared about that. They only cared about the fact that he was one of the very few guys on the Internet that was so loudly passionate about being obsessed with his wife, which, unfortunately, annoyingly, is not something that you see very often. He even did an Architectural Digest home tour with Ariel. He published a cookbook with Ariel called the Date Night Cookbook. There are compilations of him saying, my wife. And so for being so outwardly obsessed with his wife, though, he literally did not care about his wife at all. And I'm not even referencing the cheating scandal, everything that he did in videos.

[Co-host or Guest]

So it's like, all a shtick. Like, he did it strictly for what?

No, I just love when you adopt English words. I of nowhere, the other day, we were laying in bed and we were, like, bickering about something, and he said, you know how you're supposed to say, oh? On the contrary, he goes, oh, no, ma', am. On the contrast. Oh, sir. He said, oh. So it's a whole shtick. Say it again.

It's a stick.

No, it's literally a shit.

[Podcast Host]

And it gets overshadowed. So people at the time, they kept just hearing, my wife, my wife, my wife. That nobody really thought into it, but there were signs. So in the podcast that the Try Wives do, Ariel is talking about how they both had to come into the office to do something.

[Co-host or Guest]

Also, side note, people think that he.

[Podcast Host]

Was cheating on that day that she's talking about. So she says that they both had to come into the office to do, like, promotions for their cookbook. They drive into the office, and they're driving in separate cars because she had to come in early to film a podcast, do something else, and. And then they have to work on this thing. And then once they're done with this thing, it's time to go home. They're really coming into the office for the same exact thing. They drive separately. They get into the office, and then once they're done, she checks the clock and it's 4:30pm so she's like, okay, let's go. She packs up her stuff and she goes to him because they need to go get their kids. And, like, it's a whole thing with the kids. Like, they have the after school stuff. And he tells her, okay, yeah, I'll see you in, like an hour and a half. I'm just gonna finish up some work. So then she was thinking, wait, so why don't I stay and finish up some work and you go take care of the kids? Like, she was talking about how it's not even a thing that's thought of. Like, a lot of dads can just be like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna do work they don't really think about. Oh, well, if I'm working, then who's gonna watch the kids? So he just kind of assumed. So that was her whole point of the story.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Was like, I. It was crazy because it didn't even occur to me because it wouldn't be something I think of like, oh, I just need to finish work. For the next hour and a half.

[Co-host or Guest]

Her story, more of the story, was like, why is wife or mom the only one thinking about picking up the kids?

[Podcast Host]

But then now, in hindsight, people are like, what was he doing for an hour and a half in the office while she was with the kids? Then there's a clip where Keith asks Ned which is more important, being a loving husband or being a loving father? And he says, I think being a loving husband. So maybe he just uses all of his competency, which there's not a lot of, but he uses it all to be the best husband in the world, right? However, no. In another episode, she says that Ariel is talking about how all the guys on the tripod were talking about their wives, and Keith is the sweetest husband in the world. And the whole time he's just talking about his wife, Becky, and how she's the only reason that their house is so clean. She is the only reason that their fort is being held down. And Ariel is just waiting for Ned to talk about her. She. She was like, you know, I'm like, when is it my turn to give her compliments? You know, like, compliments to the chef and just, like, showing gratefulness. But instead he complains about how she threw away his leftovers, and he phrased it. Like, she doesn't like meat, so she threw away his meat. But Ariel is like, no, it was rotting.

[Co-host or Guest]

She's like.

[Podcast Host]

She even says, I love my husband. I wasn't even mad, but I was just disappointed in the whole thing. Does this mean that he's just sh. Tty at both? Like, he's shitty as a husband and a father. And then there's obviously all the other clips that aged like milk. Okay. There's compilations. Ned is doing a lie detector test, and he says, I think I'm a pretty bad liar. I don't mind telling the truth even if it hurts.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I think I'm a pretty bad liar. I don't have a problem telling the truth even if it hurts.

[Podcast Host]

Then he's asked if he's hiding anything from the try guys, and he giggles. I don't think so. And the lie detector man is like, that's a lie.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Ned, are there any secrets that you're hiding from us? I don't think so.

[Podcast Host]

That's a lie. There's clips of Ned and Alex flirting on camera.

[Co-host or Guest]

What?

[Podcast Host]

It doesn't seem, like, super flirtatious, but now in hindsight. Yeah. There's, like, one where they're eating crawfish, and both of them say, there's no food in their mouths.

[Co-host or Guest]

How could they cheat and then interact in front of a camera?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

This is kind of nice.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, miss Ned.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Hello.

[Podcast Host]

Hey, girl.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hey, bed.

[Podcast Host]

There's one where they're, like, eating crawfish, and I think there's a competition to, like, I don't know, eat the crawfish, but both of them are like, we're done. We're done. And they don't have food in their mouths, or at least that's what they're claiming. So Alex is opening her mouth, Ned is opening his mouth, and Keith is in the middle. And it's like, you guys still have food in your mouth. And they're like, no, we don't. No, we don't. And he says, you guys are both such great, like, liars.

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There's still food in your mouth.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Still food in your mouth.

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You're both such liars.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

And, like, Keith clearly doesn't know what's going on, but he's just saying these things. And then there's another clip where Alex is filming without Ned, but she's with two of the other try guys, and she just says, like, I miss Ned.

[Co-host or Guest]

I miss Ned.

[Podcast Host]

I miss Ned. And I'm sure it was, like. Like an appropriate joke at the time. Maybe the other guys Were like, oh, well, you didn't do this, blah, blah, blah. And they're like teasing her and she's like, I miss Ned or something. And there is now also a since viral moment of Alex picking Ned for something. I forget what it was, but she was like, I choose Ned because he has a hot wife. Ned to Ned because you have a hot wife.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hmm.

[Podcast Host]

So a lot of people are very on the fence of how to feel about Alex. I would say that a majority of people are not sympathetic towards Alex. They don't hate her like they hate Ned because obviously, like, Ned had kids, he was married. Although Alex was in a 10 year relationship. I also think that the power imbalance really is bad. So. So Ned is not even just one of the four Try guys, one of the founding members. He's also the main HR person for Try guys. The power imbalance is crazy. And Alex is just like a producer for the Try guys. So she's an employee, he's the boss. There's a massive power imbalance. So that's one of the reasons I think people perhaps a little more lenience towards Alex versus Ned. Otherwise it's insane because, I mean, she knew that he was in a relationship with me kids, very publicly. He knows that she's engaged with a fiance of 10 years.

[Co-host or Guest]

Damn. Where is she now? Do we know?

[Podcast Host]

No one knows.

[Co-host or Guest]

What about, like, the engagement?

[Podcast Host]

Oh, he broke it off. Yeah. And then there's just other things. Like there was this video of Ned and Ariel redecorating Zach and Maggie's place. So Zach is another Try guy, and he was dating his girlfriend now wife Maggie, and then moved in together. And they're trying to figure out how to make their living room feel like a cohesive space for both personalities. So Maggie is talking to Ned and Ariel, and Ariel loves decorating. And so they come in and they're gonna do like a living room makeover. This video is edited by primarily Ned, and then they post the video. Now, after the video gets posted, everyone is sh. Tting on Ariel and Maggie. So Ned Fulmer's wife and Zach's girlfriend now wife. Right. So the reason that they were mainly shitting on Ariel, but they were also kind of sh. Tting on Maggie. So basically, Zach is just talking about how he's collected a lot of knickknacks and it's just messy. Like, he has a ton of magazines. He has a ton of, like, figurines and all this stuff that maybe he doesn't want to keep out and about. There are also mentions throughout the video that, like, Maggie doesn't really like clutter. Like, she's very organized. She likes a space a certain way and to look clean and all these things. And so a lot of of his stuff is, like, storage. They did incorporate a lot of it into the shelves, but a lot of it is also, like, put into drawers and storage in different rooms, which I don't think is a big deal. I mean, like, I love knickknacks. I got a ton of knickknacks.

[Co-host or Guest]

I don't need them to be easily.

[Podcast Host]

Viewable to my opticals every two seconds. But because of that, everyone's like, look at Maggie, like, taking over and ruining Zach's life. Look at Ariel calling Zack's stuff stupid. Which Ariel does call it stupid, but only after Zach is like, yeah, just like, all my stupid stuff.

[Co-host or Guest]

You surround yourself with stupid things because you like feeling stupid. Why don't you surround yourself with orderly, beautiful things so that you feel orderly and beautiful?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Boom.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Right? So she's just kind of following his lead. And nothing was malicious about it, but because the Internet just loves to hate on women. They were like, these bitches. So they get so much hate.

[Co-host or Guest]

Zach goes rogue.

[Podcast Host]

Zach unlists the video. He takes it down. He doesn't even talk to the other Try guys because this is his girlfriend.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So then later, the Try guys have a documentary. The Try doc. I don't know.

[Co-host or Guest]

I don't know if that's what it's called. It could just be the Try guys documentary.

[Podcast Host]

And in that documentary, they're confronting Zach, and all the other try guys are mad, and they're just saying things like.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hey, no, it is the Try guy.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, no. Eugene left too.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, okay. I'll come again.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Co-host or Guest]

He'll come back. We'll see you in 30 minutes.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Co-host or Guest]

He's gonna have another light bulb in 30 minutes. Let me rebrand. Okay.

[Podcast Host]

Zach is just. They're confronting him because all the other guys are saying, you can't just, like, take it down without even discussing it with us. Mainly Keith and Eugene are like, just don't go rogue. Like, you gotta talk to us about.

[Co-host or Guest]

It before you just go in there.

[Podcast Host]

And take it down. And we don't know what's going on.

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[Podcast Host]

And then Ned says something that's crazy. He's like, well, I edited this. Like, this was my project. And honestly, it was my wife getting the brunt of the cyberbullying.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I worked for months on that project, and my wife was getting the brunt of the cyberbullying. I think that you're overreacting.

[Podcast Host]

Like, Ariel was getting cyberbullied to filth in that video in the comment section. And Zach's whole approach was like, I'm not sorry about what I did because.

[Co-host or Guest]

Because he's trying to protect his wife, right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. He's like, this is impacting the person that I love most in this world. I'm not sorry.

[Co-host or Guest]

Depending on business.

But Ned, who's. My wife.

[Podcast Host]

My wife. My wife is like, I edited the video.

[Co-host or Guest]

Do you know how long it took me to edit it?

Come on, little bitch.

[Podcast Host]

So when all of this starts breaking out, Try guys don't immediately respond, but they're basically like getting him out of videos. And it's pretty clear because in one video you can hear Ned laugh, but in the rest of the video, he's never present.

[Co-host or Guest]

So it's pretty obvious what they're doing. It's not like Ned just wasn't there for the filming.

[Podcast Host]

These are old videos they're intentionally editing him out of. And then eventually they do make a statement where they mentioned that they were not aware of the situation. They were made aware before all of it went public. They were handling it behind the scene scenes. They had to get corporate lawyers involved. I. I mean, I'm assuming it's very tricky because Ned was probably involved in the forming of the company. So I'm sure there's a lot of, like, things that they have to go through legal hoops. I'm sure that they signed like an ironclad NDA between all four parties and just like, a mess.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Ned Fulmer is no longer working with the Try guys.

[Podcast Host]

Now they come out with their statement. Eugene looks pissed the entire time. And, like, understandably so. All the other guys, they had so much going on. I think Zach and Maggie were planning their wedding and they had some other projects of their own. Keith and Becky just purchased a house and like, they're losing so much money from the scandal, so they have to re edit a bunch of things. They just had a Food Network show that was cleared, and I think at the time it was supposed it was slated to come out on like, really good TV time slot. With TV, timing is everything because no one's watching TV at like 4 in the morning. And then it got switched to like a time slot, and it pretty much killed all hopes of a renewed season. And then I believe Eugene was getting into films. So it was just like a really sh. Tty timing for everyone. And it was just a mess. And then it just blew up, like.

[Co-host or Guest]

The way it Blew up.

[Podcast Host]

I've never seen a YouTube channel cheating.

[Co-host or Guest]

Scandal blow up into the ether like that.

[Podcast Host]

SNL did a skit on it.

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[Podcast Host]

I've never seen SNL do skits on like this, but even that is a whole controversial thing because Ned has a friend who worked on snl, and so people think that the SNL thing was heavily biased towards Ned. It was less making fun of Ned and more making fun of the Try Guys and the three of them on the couch addressing the scandal.

[Co-host or Guest]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So it's sus. It's weird. So they come out with that statement, and then Ned confirms the cheating, and he puts out his own statement. And he used this, like, the same font as the Try Guys. And the Try Guys later were like, we did not plan because people were like, well, they used the same font and they came out the same day. So they probably all, like, okayed the statement statements.

[Co-host or Guest]

What's his statement like?

I regret his statement was ass holy.

[Podcast Host]

His statement is, family should have always been my priority. But I lost focus. Like, this mother is genuinely acting like.

[Co-host or Guest]

You have to lock in to not cheat. He's like, I. I didn't stay locked in.

I forgot to say my wife today.

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So I lost focus, and I had a consensual workplace relationship. I'm sorry for any pain that my actions may have caused to the guys and the fans, but most of all to Ariel. The only thing that matters right now is my marriage and my children. That's where I'm going to focus my attention. And then just to give you more context of why this is so bad, his statement is so cold. He's just like, I lost focus. People start digging up even more about the whole relationship. And Ariel is never a public person. Ned is the reason that she even started doing podcasts, the reason that she's online. Basically, like, you're online because of me, right? I don't know if you would have.

[Co-host or Guest]

Chosen to be online aside from that.

[Podcast Host]

That's basically Ariel, and she had started opening up about her life and her insecurities and a little bit of context. She is two to three years older than Ned, and that was something that she always felt insecure about. Ned cheats on her with a girl who is 10 years younger than him.

[Co-host or Guest]

Whoa.

[Podcast Host]

So she opened up about being pregnant postpartum, becoming a mom. Like, she was very vulnerable about things, which not only made people love Ariel more, but also made people very angry for her. And Ned is such a shit bag on the tripod. They have a guest that comes in and she's talking about her age and she says that she actually has a lot of friends that are in their 40s and I believe she was in her 20s at the time. I don't know. But Ned blurts out rudely, she's like one of the producers. And he says, no kids 35, good luck fighting that by a lot biological clock. 40 year old friends.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I will say, well kids 35 rainy. Good luck fighting that biological clock she doesn't want.

[Podcast Host]

And so all these things are unearthed and they all just disappear. Will deletes Alex so Will is the fiance of 10 years, not involved with the Try guys, not working for them. Deletes all of their pictures engagement from online and then just moves on. Alex never online again. Ned and Ariel basically never online again. And they get kicked out of the Try guys. People think think that's it.

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[Podcast Host]

See terms People think that is it. We get a little bit of subreddit rumors of we saw them at Disneyland. They said that they weren't together. No, we saw them at, you know, the Taylor Swift concert. And the only other thing that we had was right when the scandal was hit, they had gone to couples therapy and they had taken one car. Ned's got a apple in his hand. And she even mentions this later in the podcast. And she's like, he just like needed to have a snack, so he's got an apple in one hand. Ariel has her little water bottle and they're both wearing their wedding rings. And Ariel said that she was so awkward, she didn't know what to do. So she kept smiling because she didn't know what to do. And the paparazzi, she looks like she's happy to be with no Ned because she's smiling. But in reality, she was just uncomfortable and awkward. People see this video, they think that they're staying together. So that was like the biggest piece of evidence. However, the two of them get into a Tesla. This is very important.

[Co-host or Guest]

This is right after the scandal happened. They're going to. Okay.

[Podcast Host]

And they get into a Tesla. And this Tesla car plate, the license plate number is shown for like a brief second. Someone Googles this license plate number. It comes up on Twitter and neighbor, like the neighbor app. You know, the neighbor, like next door or whatever. Neighbor. Right. And this is where it gets insane. So this Tesla, before the cheating scandal, someone had posted a picture of the Tesla, posted the license plate, and said that this is in a family oriented neighborhood. This car is parked on the side of the road at 5:45 while kids and families are walking around and there are people having sex.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's.

[Podcast Host]

That's.

[Co-host or Guest]

Crazy. When was that posted?

[Podcast Host]

Months before. So it doesn't look like it was edited. I mean, if that's them, if that's true, they're breaking laws. Like you could be arrested for that, then nothing, nothing happens. We get no update on the car, we get no update on anything. And then suddenly in 2025, they released that they're doing a podcast together. Everyone thinks that they're still together, that they're going to have a podcast where they talk about how love wins and how you can fight for true love. And we're all going to kind of sink into our blankets and want to cut the lights on life, you know what I mean? Like, it was going to be that vibe. And here's my thing. If it's Ariel's choice to stay, I support Ariel. But I do have a pet peeve. And that is when it comes to apologies, if you are not sorry, first of all, don't apologize. But more importantly, if you're still going to apologize and you're not sorry and it's a fake apology, you need to be speaking to me in two times speed.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, don't, don't give me long, dramatic.

[Podcast Host]

Pauses in a fake apology to try and sell it. Like, you know and I know that you're lying. Like, it needs to be quick and efficient. Because if you are going to waste someone's time with a fake apology, it is your duty as the transgressor in the situation to make it as timely and as efficient to waste as little time as possible possible. And I will stand by this statement.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Hi, I'm Ned Fulmer.

[Co-host or Guest]

This is a podcast.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Three years ago, I cheated on my wife with my producer.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know why he's looking at us like that. Like I did some. Why are you looking at me suspiciously?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

It became a massive public scandal that caused a lot of pain to a lot of people. I know that I represented myself as a kind of wife guy.

[Co-host or Guest]

See, these pauses would piss me off. Like, imagine you are getting a fake.

[Podcast Host]

Apology and now you got to sit.

[Co-host or Guest]

Through these long, lengthy, dramatic theatrical pauses.

[Podcast Host]

Don't be doing this. So then he has this whole little segment where he's sitting in front of the. Everyone has pointed out the very YouTuber esque apology video. White shirt, white background, white kitchen. Like very clean, modern farmhouse, very nice lighting. How many studio lights you think are in here? Like three?

[Co-host or Guest]

Because that just means, like, you're better.

Lighting than you have right now.

That just means like, this is a very genuine video.

[Podcast Host]

You know, that's a nice fridge.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

And then it just.

[Co-host or Guest]

They're just sitting there and I'm so stressed. Let me tell you, when I was watching this for the, the first time, I was so stressed, I even recall where I was watching this.

[Podcast Host]

You ever, like, start a video and you shouldn't have started it while you're peeing because now you feel like you can't get up. You don't even want to waste a second to wipe. So then you sit there until your butt cheeks go numb and then you're like this. You really cannot be good for my health because I'm like a five minute on the toilet rule. Like, I think that if you need to poo for longer than five minutes, you gotta, you gotta wait bit a little, little longer. Go back to your desk and then wait until it's time. Okay? So then I'm like, I'm like one.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hand wiping and then like trying to put the phone down.

[Podcast Host]

But then also it was very stressful. So the rest of the video, they're sitting in this podcast format and I will say it's really awkward. And there is like this very strange humming noise that persists throughout the entirety of the video. And I feel like nobody really knew where any of this is going. Like, nobody understood the direction or even, like, the feeling, the vibe of the video. It's just silent. Clearly, there's no music, and it just feels like we are intruding on a couple's therapy session. However, it does make complete sense. So Ariel opens with the fact that she's only agreeing to do any sort of video because it feels like she can't even make friends. And, like, whose f. Cking fault is that? Ned Fulmer's fault. That's whose fault. Okay? She says everywhere she goes. Like, she can't even go out to dinner with the kids without feeling like this entire scandal is just a part of her life. She can't make friends without this scandal being a part of her life. Like, she feels like she needs to preface with, like, hey, do you want to be my friend? By the way, my entire personal life is a dumpster fire. And whose f. Cking fault is that? Like, see, this is the problem. If I were Ariel, I would just be so petty. She's so composed. She's so beautiful. She is literally. She's such a great mother and a great person. I was gonna say wife, but, like, she was a great wife but, like, a great person. And, like, who cares about being a wife? I would be looking at him every two second like, this is your time to apologize. Because every time she would say something, it's like, holy sh. T. That's so devastating. Like, the last three years of her life were literal hell. It sounds so traumatizing. She can't go anywhere. She can't make friends. She lost friends. She said that at one point, she became a completely different person because she couldn't trust anybody. She couldn't trust the public. There were paparazzi chasing her. She couldn't trust her husband. She couldn't trust her friends. She. She couldn't trust anyone. Like, she was losing her mind, basically. And whose fault is that? And there were so many times where he just doesn't apologize. I think there was, like, one time where he says, like, oh, I'm sorry that my actions led to all of this. But every single time she says stuff like this, he's sitting here, like, nodding, and he's like, yeah, that must have been such a big loss.

[Co-host or Guest]

Whose fault is that?

[Podcast Host]

It's his fault. It's so crazy. Oh, my gosh, even my screen is over it.

[Co-host or Guest]

Whose fault is that?

[Podcast Host]

It's his fault. She also talks about, oh, there's this One crazy part, though, where they're talking about how she can't even make friends.

[Co-host or Guest]

And he says he tries to relate to her about how he can't make friends either. And he's like, sometimes I'll meet people on Instagram and they'll be like, let's exchange Instagrams. And he does this voice and he's like, okay, well, here's my Instagram. But a few caviar odds. One, I might have a lot more.

[Podcast Host]

Followers than you expect.

[Co-host or Guest]

And two, my personal life is a dumpster fire.

[Podcast Host]

And three, don't Google me.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Made new friends, or kind of introduced myself to strangers. It's like, oh, let's like, exchange Instagrams. I'm like, well, right here's mine. But couple of caveats. One, I have a lot more followers than you might expect. Two, all of this is pretty outdated. And three, don't Google me.

[Podcast Host]

Like, also, he does. There's another part where people think that he weaponizes therapy talk a lot. Where he almost acts like this is a thing that happened to Ariel, but he had no part in it. It's like very third party. Like, sorry, that must have been so hard for you. It's like, you're the reason, though. You are the reason, though. And then she even explains. That was another thing that she explained. She was like, explaining how she wants to do this because also, there's so much shame. Oh, Even the way she found out. She describes in this podcast how she had been sent a picture. I'm assuming it's the picture where they're not making out. And because her brain just refused to believe that he's having an affair, she thought his sister was in New York City. And then he was hanging out with his sister. So she was asking him, like, why is your sister in New York City? And that's when. When he looks guilty. And she's like, holy, okay, clearly he's having an affair. So she's like, he had just picked her up from the airport. She was like, turn the car around. Take me back to the airport. Because she's like, I'm going to leave again. I think to go be with her family. And he was like, that's just not how I remember it happening.

[Co-host or Guest]

You don't remember that?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

No, I don't remember it happening like that, but it doesn't matter.

[Podcast Host]

And she's like, then how the did it happen?

[Co-host or Guest]

Basically, then you tell me how it happened.

[Podcast Host]

She's like, how do you remember it happened happening? He's like, it wasn't that immediate.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, you were asking me questions, and.

[Podcast Host]

Then I told you who and how it happened. And then you were like, take me back to the airport. And I'm sitting here like, that's exactly how she described it. I don't understand that whole point. I don't know what point he was making. I don't know. And then he said. He said that there was almost like a relief once. I hate when people say that. I hate when people say that. He said there was almost a relief once he told her so that he didn't have to hide anything from her again. But she's like, mm, mm, mm. You're not therapy speaking me. Let me tell you. And she says, and this is so. I didn't even think of it like this. There are so many moments in here. She, like, wows people with her ability to grasp what happened in a way that does not sound like therapy speak in a way that feels like it would resonate with a lot of people or partners who have been cheated on. Because she explains, partners will feel relief when they come close, and you just have to accept it as a partner. And she's explaining, like, all that guilt and shame of the affair, suddenly your partner has to take it on. And she also explains, like, how in society, oftentimes when the man cheats, a lot of people will kind of think or even side eye or straight up ask, like, why? What was the woman not doing in the relationship? Or like, what did she do to cause him to want to cheat? And then she was just saying, like, it's crazy because. Because I didn't even do anything. Like, I did not take part in any of this.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, those were your actions.

[Podcast Host]

And then the minute that she found out about it, she felt a lot of shame and guilt.

[Co-host or Guest]

Interesting.

[Podcast Host]

So he feels relief. And then all of that comes onto her and she's like, don't even try to make it seem like you feel relief because you can come clean. It's relief because you're putting that shame and guilt onto me.

[Co-host or Guest]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

And so. So, you know, he says he hits her with a. This has gone viral. He hits her with a. I don't think it's fair that as a society you're put in that position now I.

[Co-host or Guest]

Have to carry that around for the.

[Podcast Host]

Rest of my life.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I don't think it's fair that as a society you're put in that position. It's certainly not true.

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What?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, because she had mentioned in society, like, sometimes women are like. But that was just like a tiny part of the entire thing. That she was saying, and she says it's certain. He says, it's certainly not true. And, no, it's not something that I imagined, you know, as I was doing that. I think none of it was. If you really let it sink in, just how much you're hurting your partner and how devastating it is, like, how could you do that? It's still very difficult now, even three years later, to see you in pain as you're talking about it. I mean, I guess there's nothing that I can do to change the past or to help.

[Co-host or Guest]

Is it audacity? Is it like, how could you just cheat so publicly, too?

[Podcast Host]

I think he feels victimized by the consequences. I think because he had a traumatic experience with the consequences, he feels like a victim of trauma. When in reality, those are just the consequences of your actions. Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

And just the action itself is so shocking.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And also, it's like, maybe I would understand the mental hoops that he's going through more. If it was, like, a super private affair. I don't think I would agree with how he feels, but, like, maybe I could understand. Understand the train of thought a little bit more. But it was like, you were the.

[Co-host or Guest]

One that was so public about it.

[Podcast Host]

And then you're getting upset that the.

[Co-host or Guest]

Public destroyed you for destroying your family.

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

It doesn't make any sense. But people were commenting like, he so desperately wants to be the victim of his own crime that he perpetrated. Like, that's the vibe that he gives. And he even asks the most dumbass questions I've ever heard in my entire life. Okay. So he asks her, how did having it become such a public scandal kind of change everything for you? Did it make it worse? Did it make it easier? Did it just sort of make it surreal?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

How did having it become such a public scandal change everything for you? Did it make it worse? Did it make it easier? Did it just sort of make it surreal?

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Co-host or Guest]

In what world, after you just listened to her talk for 30 minutes.

[Podcast Host]

Minutes.

[Co-host or Guest]

In what world do you think it would have made it easier?

Crazy.

Be for real.

[Podcast Host]

And then at the end, Ariel is just asking Ned about what his plans are for the channel, and this is.

[Co-host or Guest]

Where we get his infamous.

[Podcast Host]

He's like, you know, I just have the desire to create and tell stories.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

I have a desire to create and to tell stories.

[Co-host or Guest]

What's her react?

[Podcast Host]

And she's, like, nodding, okay.

[Co-host or Guest]

No, he gets crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. And he's like, but I don't really want it to be about myself as a character. Myself or my Relationship or my personal life. He's like, I've always been drawn to, like, something about what makes people curious and finding ways of connecting myself with their interest. So I don't know, I see myself more as like a host, more as just like a vehicle for other people's stories. I don't know. Know, maybe I can because of what I've gone through in my past, and connect with people and empathize and empathize with people. And at this point, she's kind of like laughing. She's kind of like. And then he's like, what?

[Co-host or Guest]

And she hits him with the most iconic line. And I, I, I'm just waiting for the moment to use this on someone, but I have no one I hate.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. She, she goes, you think you're interesting enough?

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

What?

[Co-host or Guest]

No, I don't know.

[Podcast Host]

Just.

[Co-host or Guest]

You think you're, you think you're interesting enough.

That Insane.

She was like laughing the whole time. He's explaining his plans and she goes, you think you're interesting enough?

That's so iconic. And what did he say?

[Podcast Host]

No, I, no, I don't. I don't.

[Co-host or Guest]

But he's still doing this.

[Podcast Host]

He's still doing this. And you know, this channel before this was posted, had 66,000 subscribers. So a lot of people thought 66,000 people subscribed for this podcast so they wouldn't miss this episode. No, no. This podcast was their parenting podcast before he renamed it Rock Bottom with Ned Fulmer.

[Co-host or Guest]

So. Okay, it was an old channel.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And it was all about, about parenting. It was called Baby Steps and then he renamed it Rock Bottom with Ned Fulmer, deleted all the old videos and then posted these.

[Ned Fulmer (quoted clips)]

Bruh.

[Co-host or Guest]

So what is it going on right now on this channel?

[Podcast Host]

He's like interviewing a bunch of other people that have I.

[Co-host or Guest]

So it's still ongoing?

[Podcast Host]

Like, yeah, yeah. I think some of them are getting like 4,000 views an episode. He's interviewing other people, people that have been canceled or had been big part of like big problematic situations. And people are kind of theorizing that his next step is going to go into like the alt right pipeline. Like, you go so anti cancel culture that you become like maybe a super alt right.

[Co-host or Guest]

That is crazy. This is not the rock bottom. He's like getting you bottoms.

He's like digging the bottom. Yeah, he's like, where is the cor. Core of the earth?

[Podcast Host]

Even Wendy's commented on a tick tock.

[Co-host or Guest]

Wendy's the fast food chain.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, now it's society's fault, huh, Ned?

[Co-host or Guest]

And so the comments under that read, if Ned Fulmer has no haters, Wendy's is dead.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Another comment reads, have you considered a journal? Other comments read, her visceral disgust with him. The entire podcast episode is so incredible. I love her so much, and I'm so glad that she kicked.

[Co-host or Guest]

Take him to the curb.

[Podcast Host]

I also think that she has her own pottery studio now, and she has a online website where you can buy her pottery, and it's beautiful. I'm gonna link it below. But, like, I love Ariel. The way that she. Something about this podcast episode, I don't know what I was expecting. And no matter what I was expecting, like, I think everyone went in there already wanting to support Ariel, but the way that she composed herself, the way that she was able to articulate her feelings in a way that would resonate with her other people who had gone through such traumatic experiences while simultaneously dragging him. And I don't want to say belittling him, because that sounds like a mean.

[Co-host or Guest]

Thing to do, but, like, classy about it.

[Podcast Host]

Yes. She's just very composed, and she's not hitting below the belt. She's not being mean. She's asking really valid questions. Like, when you do start a YouTube channel, you should. Should ask yourself, am I interesting enough?

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, maybe I should think about that. Okay.

[Podcast Host]

Like, she's asking all the right questions. It's not too mean. It's just genuine, but also, like, so humiliating for Ned.

[Co-host or Guest]

But it's.

[Podcast Host]

She's incredible. So I'm gonna leave a link to her pottery studio. And, oh, there was one sad part where she says that she doesn't want to be online. Really? Also, like, I think she mentioned having self image and just she doesn't want to try to live up to society's standards, which I think is Ned's fault.

[Co-host or Guest]

There. There is a. Another standard of beauty for people who are on the Internet, and I don't.

[Podcast Host]

Want to hold myself to that standard anymore. I agree. Society's standards on women is unrealistic and it sucks. And, like, being online definitely does not help.

[Co-host or Guest]

Like, it shocks.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. However, I think the way she says it is just. It feels like maybe she had gotten comments and then the fact that, like, she already felt a little insecure with certain aspects of her life and maybe her own self image, which a lot of us feel insecure, but, like, the fact that this probably made it worse, not because it meant anything, but, like, our brains like to do weird things. But, like, Ned, okay. And he's still on here, still posting videos, still posting podcasts, still posting on the Ned Fulmer Channel. Channel. And I'm just so confused. I've never been more confused in my life. I mean, he has a Yale degree. Why can't he get a job?

[Co-host or Guest]

That's what a lot of netizens are also confused about.

Why doesn't he just go get a job?

Yeah, why doesn't he just go get a job? You don't have to be a public figure. A lot of people were saying, like, you really don't have to be a public figure. Like, that's not part of human healing. That's not part of anything.

[Podcast Host]

Like, you don't have to put this.

[Co-host or Guest]

Fake healing process online either.

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Like, it's. He feels obligated to be online. And everyone's like, no, trust me, journaling would really do you wonders at this point.

[Co-host or Guest]

This is probably the worst comeback of life. Like, you can think of like 10 different ways. How is he gonna return?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

But this is like the worst way.

[Podcast Host]

The worst of the worst.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And he's still going on. And there are allegations and conspiracies that he's buying views. I feel like he really could. Maybe there could have been like a forgiveness arc perhaps. But I think all of his videos so far just have this air of. Air of just. It's like he doesn't feel different. He doesn't feel remorseful. He doesn't sound like he truly gets why the Internet hated him and how.

[Co-host or Guest]

He f ked up everybody.

[Podcast Host]

He didn't even just up his family. He fucked up the Try guys and all the employees of Try guys also because, like, you're putting the entire business at risk when you are in a relationship with someone who is your employee. I will say the one thing that people feel sympathy for Alex is that with Ned, he made a lot of money, probably from try guys. He also has like a Yale degree. It seems like he comes from like a well off background. I'm not sure of Alex's background. Maybe she got a payout from the try guys with an NDA. I don't know. There were some speculations of that online. But I think the one thing that people feel bad about is like both of them had the same crime. His is worse because of the power imbalance. But maybe she got the worst end of the stick from those two, not from everyone involved. I mean, neither of them are victims. Victims per se, but out of the two.

[Co-host or Guest]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know. What are your thoughts on this case, this situation?

[Co-host or Guest]

Let me know in the comments and I'll see you guys in the next one.

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