Morbid – April Bonus Episode: Eclipse
Hosts: Ash Kelley & Alaina Urquhart
Release Date: April 24, 2026

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Episode Overview
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Ash and Alaina return with their signature blend of humor and horror for a deep-dive, unfiltered discussion of Eclipse, the third installment in the Twilight saga. This bonus Morbid episode is an irreverent, at times scathing feminist breakdown of the book and its film adaptation. The duo dissect problematic relationship dynamics, character arcs, franchise lore, and much more—supported by direct quotes, behind-the-scenes info, and genuinely laugh-out-loud commentary. They compare book vs. movie, share notable differences, and reflect on Eclipse’s cultural footprint, all while questioning why any of us ever fell for Team Edward or Team Jacob.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights
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I. Twilight Context: Why Eclipse?

• The episode centers on Eclipse—Ash says it is her “least favorite of the five movies” ([03:21]).
• Both hosts discuss how rereading the books as adults sheds new (harsh) light on characters and themes.
• Fun Fact: Eclipse was the highest-grossing Twilight film, earning $760 million worldwide ([05:34]).

II. Book vs. Movie: Characterizations and Growth

• Ash notes how the book versions of major characters are “so much worse” than their movie counterparts ([04:31]).
  • Charlie in particular is “literally the worst,” while Jacob’s portrayal is even more problematic ([15:22]; [04:46]; [06:56]).
• Edward’s growth is called out: “He is so fucking patient with the Jacob shit” ([12:46]; [12:55]).
• Jacob’s character arc is described as “character assassination”—he’s manipulative, physically forceful, and emotionally unstable ([06:58]; [07:11]; [35:13]).
• The manipulation of Bella by both Edward and Alice is scrutinized:
  • “No one really gives Bella the option to do anything” ([09:46]).
  • “Alice is … straight up manipulating Bella into Edward’s every whim” ([08:42]).

III. Problematic Relationship Dynamics

• The hosts analyze how the series glorifies “baby-girl coding” and disempowers Bella, particularly in sexual and emotional autonomy:
  • “He just doesn’t listen to the fact that she’s sitting there … she wants to do … and you’re just not listening to her” – Elena ([11:25])
  • “Nobody listens.” – Ash ([11:39])
  • Notably, male characters (Edward, Jacob, Charlie) regularly override Bella’s agency ([10:18]).

IV. Assault Scene: Jacob Kissing Bella (Book vs. Movie)

• Detailed breakdown of the book’s upsetting lack of consent:
  • “His lips crushed mine, stopping my protest … his other hand gripping tight around my neck, making escape impossible … I opened my eyes and didn’t fight, didn’t feel. Just waited for him to stop” ([17:45]; [19:05])
  • Ash: “That’s assault.” ([18:53])
• The hosts highlight the disturbingly dismissive reactions from both Charlie and Edward:
  • Charlie: “Good for you, kid.” ([22:56])
  • “If I walked in with my best guy friend … my dad would have had him out in the forest in 2 seconds” – Elena ([24:06])
  • Edward only slowly asks what happened; Jacob also manipulates the situation ([25:42]).

V. Emotional Manipulation: Jacob’s Guilt Trip/Suicide Threats

• Jacob emotionally manipulates Bella, threatening self-harm to get what he wants, culminating in her feeling forced to kiss him ([35:13]–[40:41]):
  • “He’s putting it all on her” – Ash ([35:59])
  • “The only reason she does [kiss Jacob] is to make him not kill himself. That’s not healthy in any universe ever.” ([38:41])

VI. Imprinting: Quill & Claire and the Problem of Predatory Dynamics

• The imprinting subplot (especially Quill on 2-year-old Claire) is harshly criticized:
  • “Don’t be judgmental.” – Jacob ([85:24])
  • “Why wouldn’t she choose him? Because she’s two.” – Elena ([91:04])
  • “Nothing about it is platonic. … The goal is for them to end up together.” ([88:27])

VII. Confusing Vampire Lore and Character Backstories

• Jasper’s Confederate past (and the lack of reckoning with it) is skewered:
  • “He’s still proud of it. Babe, not once have I heard that man say, ‘I wouldn’t join today’…” – Elena ([65:27])
• Rosalie’s assault and revenge arc is recounted, noting both its power and problematic messaging about beauty and victim-blaming ([67:21]–[77:02]):
  • Rosalie: “If I had been ugly, I would have been fine.” ([73:05])
  • Ash: “That’s you being beautiful had nothing to do with [your assault]—and everything to do with bad men.” ([73:20])

VIII. Iconic and Infamous Moments

• Notable lines and movie/book moments:
  • “Let’s face it, I’m hotter than you.” – Jacob ([31:20])
  • “If you had stayed away another six months, I could have had a chance.” – Jacob ([33:09])
  • “Mama, you’re not wearing your ugly ass engagement ring, and you’re wearing your ugly ass wolf pendant.” – Ash ([46:55])
  • “Ew, please don’t say that out loud. I’m not kidding.” – Bella, on being engaged ([48:22])
  • “Stop trying to take your clothes off.” – Edward ([50:04])
• The infamous “mountain tent” scene where Jacob and Edward fight over Bella’s body heat gets the play-by-play ([30:54]–[31:38]).
• The hosts call out Bella's aversion to her own engagement, despite “wanting to tie myself [to Edward] in every human way possible” ([49:03]).

IX. Victoria Recast & Hairgate

• Discussion of the abrupt recasting of Victoria (Rachelle Lefevre → Bryce Dallas Howard), why it happened, and how it affected character continuity and the final showdown ([93:19]–[96:56]).

X. Behind the Scenes, Extended Lore, & Adult Reappraisal

• Frequent referencing of The Twilight Saga: The Official Illustrated Guide and Stephanie Meyer’s FAQ/archival site for context and criticism ([19:29]; [81:02]).
• Ongoing commentary on the series’ disturbing normalizations and unintended lessons for young readers.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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• [04:31] “The characters in the book are so much worse than they are in the movie.”
• [06:56] “Jacob just tumbles backwards. Like, he devolves in a way I can’t even—character assassination.” – Elena
• [07:37] “It’s not like a sexy edge. It’s like, I’m genuinely worried about safety kind of edge. And that’s not where you want to be.” – Ash
• [11:25] “He doesn’t listen to the fact that she’s sitting there … she wants to do … and you’re just not listening to her.” – Elena
• [18:53] “That is already—you’re like, what the fuck? You had no consent. That’s assault.” – Ash
• [22:56] “Good for you, kid.” – Charlie, after Jacob admits to nonconsensually kissing Bella (Book)
• [24:06] “If I walked in [injured] with my best guy friend … my dad would have had him out in the forest in two seconds.” – Elena
• [31:20] “Let’s face it, I’m hotter than you.” – Jacob (to Edward)
• [35:13] “He just immediately starts threatening suicide, which is so manipulative.” – Elena
• [38:41] “Literally the only reason [she does kiss Jacob] is to make him not kill himself. That’s not healthy in any universe ever.” – Elena
• [46:57] “You’re not wearing your ugly ass engagement ring. And you’re wearing your ugly ass wolf pendant.” – Ash
• [48:22] Bella: “Ew, please don’t say that out loud. I’m not kidding.” (Reacting to being called ‘engaged’)
• [50:04] “He literally says, Bella, stop trying to take your clothes off. … That would send me into psychosis.” – Elena
• [65:27] “He’s still proud of [being a Confederate soldier]. … Not once have I heard that man say, ‘I wouldn’t join today.’” – Elena

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Noteworthy Timestamps
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• [03:21] Why Eclipse is the least favorite / personal Twilight histories
• [04:31] Book vs. movie characters
• [06:56] Jacob and Edward's character arcs
• [11:25] Autonomy and agency (Bella, Edward, Alice)
• [17:45] Dramatic reading: The kiss assault scene in the book
• [22:56] Charlie’s shocking reaction to the incident
• [24:06] Hosts’ reactions to their own hypothetical “parent” responses
• [30:54] Mountain tent scene analysis
• [35:13] Emotional manipulation and suicide threats
• [48:22] Bella’s hilarious engagement rejection
• [67:21] Discussion of Confederate Jasper and Rosalie’s backstory
• [85:24] Imprinting with a toddler—Quill & Claire
• [93:19] Victoria’s sudden recast
• [99:57] The “Eclipse” title line discussion

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Additional Fun Bits
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• The hosts brainstorm “Twilight-style” names for their hypothetical children: Donnie Johto and Carrie Dak ([92:32]).
• Repeated exasperation about the franchise’s missed opportunities (e.g., not using book lines in the movies, mishandling backstories).
• Sharp, often hilarious, critique of the series’ folklore, including vampire marble-lips, chaste kissing, and venom lore ([59:12]).
• “Victoria hairgate”: The new actress’s crunchy curls cannot compete with the original’s “feral fairy creature” aesthetic ([95:05]).

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Summary
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In this special “Morbid” episode, Ash and Alaina roast and re-examine Eclipse as both an iconic and deeply problematic cultural touchstone. Rife with scathing humor, direct quotes, analysis of relationship red flags, and dramatic mock-readings of Twilight’s infamously cringe scenes, this episode offers cathartic laughter and sharp insight for both dedicated fans and critical revisitors. The hosts connect personal reflections, modern social awareness, and fandom-lore expertise—making this the perfect recap if you want to know what really goes down in Forks, minus the rose-tinted nostalgia.
Final thought:
“The clouds I can handle, but I can't fight with an eclipse.” – [99:57]
A summary that sums up both the book’s central love triangle and the hosts’ love-hate relationship with this saga.

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Stay tuned for their much-anticipated, “unhinged” Breaking Dawn recaps!