Dialing the Dead: A Séance with Sam & Colby

Summary

Morbid Podcast: "Dialing the Dead: A Séance with Sam & Colby"

Hosts: Ash Kelley & Alaina Urquhart
Guests: Sam & Colby
Date: September 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode brings together the worlds of spooky podcasting and daring paranormal YouTubers. Ash and Alaina, your hilarious Morbid hosts, welcome Sam and Colby—explorers of the haunted and bizarre best known for their investigations and wild YouTube channel—into the studio (as opposed to a bank vault, finally!) for a lively, laugh-filled, and, at times, chilling conversation about haunted houses, cursed locations, kids seeing ghosts, prankster poltergeists, and the trappings of seances both real and… very much faked.

From discussing their obsessive love for Halloween and costume crafts to the darkest moments in their ghost hunting careers, the foursome dives into audience questions, personal experiences, and even a raucous "Would You Rather?" game with some of the best custom paranormal prompts ever.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Welcoming Sam & Colby

• [01:53] The episode opens with Sam and Colby joining Ash and Alaina live in the Morbid studio. There's instant camaraderie as the group bond over the joys of spooky season and New England fall traditions (apple picking, anyone?).
  • Colby: "Never picked an apple. That's like a New England thing we take for granted, I think." (03:41)

Love for Halloween & Costume Crafting

• [04:43–07:00] The hosts and guests nerd out about Halloween parties (L.A. vs. New England), their intense love for the spooky season, and, notably, Alaina’s over-the-top homemade costumes for her kids.
  • Elena: “I, like, learned how to sew for that.”
  • Sam: "I love how serious you guys, like, take Halloween."
  • Alaina: “Next time you’re coming apple picking. See that? You can bake an apple pie...” (07:15)

Sam & Colby: Origin Story

• [07:46–09:16] Sam and Colby recount starting their channel in 2014, shifting from Vine comedy and prank videos to exploring the haunted and the unknown.
  • Colby: “At first, we were starting on Vine… then ultimately decided to do what we loved, which was going to abandoned places.”
  • Their Midwest roots (Kansas City), the move to LA, and how exploring haunted locations felt like a “full circle” moment.

Escape Room & Haunted Venues

• [09:19–12:31] The duo launched a signature escape room on Hollywood Boulevard and bought a 100-year-old haunted school in Iowa, rescuing it from demolition and turning it into a live-in paranormal research site.
  • Colby: (On the escape room) "We made it extremely hard for a reason… success rate is 30%."
  • Sam: “For us, October is like our Super Bowl.”

Ferrar School: Hauntings & Investigations

• [12:46–16:23] Staying for a whole week in the haunted school led to ongoing investigations, security cams catching shadow figures and unexplained events, and a distinct darkening energy, especially in the boiler room.
  • Colby: “People sprinting out of the school, like getting threatened all the time... it’s like worse than when we came.” (14:39)
  • Sam: “Owning a haunted building, you see some wacky stuff.”

Haunted Encounters — At Home and on the Road

• [17:57–20:47] Stories of ghostly attachments, unexpected psychic remarks (including at Ralph’s supermarket), and a haunted Vegas residence where mysterious shadows and poltergeist-like activities occur.
  • Sam: “I remember an old guy in… a parking lot stopping me and being like, 'You’re not gonna be okay.'” (18:57)
  • Colby: “That house is definitely haunted. For sure.” (19:37)

The Hosts' Own Haunted History

• [22:34–26:51] Alaina and Ash share personal accounts: Alaina’s daughter’s “friend” Skeleton, the ominous “Mister,” childhood ghost sightings, sleepwalking, and their family’s persistent brush with the paranormal.
  • Alaina (about her daughter): “She said, 'His bones look old... they’re like brown and dark.'” (23:22)
  • Ash: “I used to see a ton of ghosts when I was little… at Elena’s parents house.” (25:59)

Kids, Imaginary Friends, and Sensitivity to Spirits

• [27:08–28:09] Sam suggests children are more open to seeing spirits, sparking more stories of childhood encounters.

Sam & Colby's Most Haunted Experiences

• [44:16–49:11] Discussing their new “Hell Week” series and the terrifying Paris Catacombs trip—illegal, physically risky, and psychically dangerous—with rituals, human remains, and their most chilling audio evidence (guttural screams, direct responses).
  • Sam: “Our investigations were absolutely horrifying… there was literal guttural screams back at us.” (45:44)
  • Encounters with “cataphiles” (Parisian tunnel-dwellers) and the real physical danger.

Deep Dive: Victorian Seances & Mediums

• [51:30–56:59] Ash and Alaina entertain Sam and Colby with outrageous—and sometimes disgusting—historical methods of mediumship. This includes the infamous “ectoplasm” trick (fabric, lungs, goo, and celebrity clippings regurgitated as ‘evidence’ for gullible audiences).
  • Ash: “So it would sometimes include a gauzy substance leaking from… all kinds of places on the medium…” (52:13)
  • Sam: “We've never had someone present their ectoplasm. Ectoplasm in a jar.” (58:21)

Mediumship: Real or Scam?

• [62:41–67:03] Honest talk about the ethics of mediumship: notorious psychic frauds, the Sylvia Browne “water” debacle, and whether any percentage of mediums have true abilities.
  • Sam: "I think probably 90%, maybe 80, 85% are fake. Honestly, I believe that real... but most people do it for the money."
  • Colby: “We've met some that can only see figures… some that use the claromancy… bone throwing…” (68:49)

Belief Spectrum and Openness

• [33:45–37:08] How the guests’ and hosts’ belief in the paranormal has shifted with direct experience, and a discussion of the importance of being “open” to the supernatural for capturing real phenomena.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Halloween culture:
  • Sam: "For us, October is like our Super Bowl." (05:38)
• On haunted homes and attachments:
  • Ash: “Did you bring something into our office?” (18:06)
• On creepy children:
  • Ash: “We have a history of like creepy children in this family… I was a creepy child.”
• On famous cases:
  • Colby: “Have you guys been to Villisca?” (50:04)
• On skepticism and scams:
  • Alaina: “Imagine being that committed to the bit… you are that committed to the scam.” (55:04)
• On mimics and the uncanny:
  • Colby: “The doppelganger sort of voice mimicking has happened to us like two or three times.” (96:02)
  • Ash (about seeing a mimic in the house): “I literally… was like, were you just in the bathroom?” (98:19)

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"Would You Rather": Spooky Showdown!

• [71:14–111:33] The show erupts with laughter and dark hypotheticals—Ouija board possessions, Victorian ghost vloggers, demons biting you when you promote merch, taco-throwing poltergeists, haunted tattoo curses, and more.
  • Samples:
    • “Would you rather let a Ouija board spirit possess your right hand for 24 hours or let Zak Bagans narrate your life for a few months?” (71:19)
    • “Would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost who calls you Daddy Colby and Papa Sam, or… have a Ouija board spell out your most embarrassing memories?”
  • Colby: “Probably the child ghost… I think it’d be just funny, honestly.”

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Paranormal Truths & Tall Tales: Two Truths and a Lie

• [112:01–118:40] Sam and Colby each present two truths and a lie from their ghost-hunting careers. The hosts try (with mixed results) to spot which chilling tale isn’t as it seems.

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Upcoming Projects & Exclusive Reveal

• [118:44–119:44] Sam & Colby plug their annual “Hell Week” series (October 5th launch). They tease a Halloween finale at one of the most famous horror movie locations of the past month—a Morbid exclusive hint!
  • Sam: "It has recently become the number one horror movie to hit any box office." (119:36)

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Segment Timestamps

• 01:53 – Show opens, guest introductions
• 04:43 – Halloween obsession, costume talk
• 07:46 – Sam & Colby origin, YouTube journey
• 09:19 – Escape room & Ferrar School discussion
• 12:46 – Living in the haunted school, ongoing investigations
• 17:57 – Haunted home stories, psychic encounters, ghostly attachments
• 22:34 – "Skeleton" and other family hauntings
• 27:08 – Kids and openness to spirits
• 44:16 – Most haunted locations: Paris Catacombs, Villisca Axe Murder House
• 51:30 – Victorian séance shenanigans: ectoplasm and beyond
• 62:41 – Mediums: real vs. scam
• 71:14 – Would You Rather? (paranormal edition)
• 112:01 – Two Truths and a Lie (ghost hunting edition)
• 118:44 – Upcoming projects and Hell Week tease

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Final Thoughts

This Morbid episode is a rollercoaster of ghoulish humor, genuine scare stories, and a deep dive into the haunted history both in the U.S. and abroad. It’s loaded with heart, wild games, sharp skepticism, and a respect for all things that go bump in the night. Whether you’re a Morbid regular or a Sam & Colby fan checking this out, you’ll walk away with a new appreciation for haunted history, the dangers (and business?) of ghost hunting, a whole new list of places to visit (or avoid), and, above all, lots of laughs.

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"I'm doing the mirror dimension. I feel like you could learn a lot in that instance, and then I could continue just having tacos when I want to." – Ash, [109:41]

"For us, October is like our Super Bowl." – Sam, [05:38]

"Energy doesn't die... It's a fact." – Colby, [34:07]

"We made it extremely hard for a reason... success rate is 30%." – Colby, [11:45]

"Owning a haunted building, you see some wacky stuff." – Sam, [15:50]

"Would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost who calls you Daddy Colby and Papa Sam?" – Ash, [90:37]

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For more: Subscribe to Morbid and check out Sam & Colby’s “Hell Week” (October 5th)!

Transcript

[Elena]

Okay.

[Ash]

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[Elena]

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[Ash]

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[Elena]

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[Sam]

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[Colby]

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[Sam]

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[Colby]

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[Elena]

Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena.

[Ash]

I'm Ash.

[Sam]

I'm Sam.

[Colby]

And I'm Colby.

[Elena]

And this is a very special mor. Let's go. We have special guests, Sam and Colby from. You might know them from YouTube maybe, unless you're old like me. When I found their video for the first time, I was like, guys, you have to watch this like, YouTube channel.

[Ash]

Thank you so much.

[Sam]

So funny.

[Elena]

Their names are Sam and Colby. And our listeners were like, yeah, Alena, they've been around for like a hundred thousand years.

[Sam]

One hundred million zillion followers.

[Elena]

And I was like, oh, well, thank.

[Colby]

You for having us.

[Sam]

Good to Be back.

[Elena]

Thanks for being here.

[Ash]

Good to have you in our real podcast.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Not that bank vault that we were.

[Elena]

In that we were all sweating in.

[Sam]

This is a beautiful studio.

[Elena]

Thank you.

[Ash]

We've really, you know, we've added to it. We made it a little more plush and cozy.

[Sam]

Got the spooky vibes for some haunted October.

[Ash]

Hell yeah stories. Oh, yeah.

[Elena]

Hell, yeah. What were we calling it? Because it's pre October now.

[Ash]

Oh, I'm calling it Proctober.

[Elena]

So we were saying Proctober. Like, we were saying Goody Proctober.

[Sam]

Yeah. No one needs September. It's Proctober.

[Elena]

We've. We've ended it that now.

[Ash]

Yeah. We know what we're doing around here.

[Elena]

It's no longer September. It's Goody Proctober. Yep.

[Ash]

That's the end.

[Elena]

Tm.

[Ash]

Don't question it.

[Sam]

No one really likes September. It's just all about October.

[Ash]

Yeah. Because everybody's just waiting for October. Exactly. You're like, have the leaves changed yet?

[Elena]

Like, come on, come on, let's pick some apples. Let's go.

[Ash]

Let's get to it.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Are you an apple picker?

[Elena]

I love picking apples. Really?

[Ash]

Wait, I love that. That's like a classificate. Like, are you an apple picker? Have you guys gone apple picking?

[Colby]

Never.

[Ash]

Shut the up.

[Elena]

You're missing. Why did we not take you apple picking? Okay.

[Ash]

We're adding that to the itinerary next time we hang out.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Okay. Let's do it.

[Ash]

We have to never picked an apple. That's like a New England thing we take for granted, I think.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

I was gonna say, driving out here in New England, this is a whole different world. Like, you were in the forests. Like, it's crazy.

[Ash]

Yeah. I mean, you went to a Longhorn for the first time.

[Sam]

Yeah, we collectively got that Longhorn.

[Ash]

We were all in that Longhorn.

[Elena]

What?

[Sam]

We ate at Longhorn Steakhouse.

[Ash]

Everyone at home.

[Colby]

It's a steak place.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Restaurant. It's very cowboy themed.

[Ash]

It was. It was a wild ride.

[Elena]

It really was. But, yeah, we need to take you apple picking. It's an experience.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

You get your apple cider donuts.

[Sam]

Oh, this is just getting me so excited for, like, all the holidays.

[Ash]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam]

Pumpkin patches.

[Ash]

Okay, so you do do pumpkin patches.

[Sam]

We do pumpkin patches. And we do an annual Halloween party every single year.

[Colby]

You guys are invited.

[Ash]

Oh, thank you.

[Sam]

Go for a Rager. Iconic LA in, like, October is insane.

[Ash]

Really?

[Sam]

Like, a hundred costume parties.

[Elena]

Like, oh, sure.

[Sam]

People go all out. I've Never seen anything like it.

[Colby]

The only, like, social time of the year for la. For some reason, like, everybody hides in their home like, all year. And then Halloween happens. And, like, all of October, it's a party after party.

[Elena]

And you can, like, hide in a costume.

[Colby]

Exactly.

[Sam]

We prep our costumes months in advance. Like, we already have set up. We have at least five. It's like, oh, my God, I love that.

[Ash]

So is it just, like, the one party, or do you do, like, a ton of dressing up?

[Sam]

I mean, there's a lot of other parties, but we do. Our annual Halloween party is like, one big event at the end of October, which is, like, It's a celebration of our end of, like, season. Because for us, October is like our Super Bowl.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Ash]

Honestly, Perfect sense.

[Sam]

Yeah, I would assume, too. Yeah.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah. I know. October, now that I'm a mom, has become like. Because I'm obsessed with making my kids costumes from scratch. No matter what you make them, I will not buy a costume.

[Ash]

She makes sick costumes on everything.

[Elena]

Yeah, I, like, learned how to sew for that.

[Colby]

What have you made before? Like, what's your favorite one?

[Elena]

So I made. When they were little, one of my twins wanted to be the moon, and.

[Ash]

I was like, we'll show you pictures after.

[Elena]

She was like, I want to be the moon. And I think she was like, two or three. And I was like, all right, how do I make this so it's not just, like, the moon? And it was. I, like, made, like, a plushy moon that her face fit into, so she was, like, the crescent moon. And then there was a bunch of, like, ribbons coming down from it. It was. That's really very proud of that one.

[Ash]

What was your other. What was the other we've done?

[Elena]

Oh, she was an owl.

[Ash]

An owl?

[Elena]

Yeah, she was an owl. That was a cute one. We're doing K pop Demon Hunters this year, though.

[Sam]

Okay. That's hu idea.

[Elena]

I had to make a roomy costume, so now I'm making, like, spangly outfits.

[Colby]

There we go.

[Sam]

There we go.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

We need you to make ours like this.

[Sam]

Tell me what you want to be.

[Elena]

I have an entire, like, craft room downstairs that's just all, like, costume making things now at this point. It's sick.

[Sam]

I love how serious you guys, like, take Halloween.

[Elena]

Oh, I take it so seriously. Yeah.

[Ash]

From, like, birth, essentially.

[Elena]

And I know there's going to be a time where they're eventually going to be like, mom, I don't want you to make my costume anymore.

[Colby]

Like, why you got to.

[Ash]

So.

[Elena]

Like, what do you mean?

[Ash]

I'm insulted, but yeah.

[Elena]

But, yeah. Next time you're coming, apple picking. See that? You can bake an apple pie with.

[Ash]

Fresh apple, where you pop off the tree. Apple picking.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

100 down.

[Elena]

That's happening.

[Colby]

Then you guys come to the Halloween.

[Sam]

Party, apple pick, and then go to a rager.

[Ash]

Yes.

[Elena]

There we go.

[Ash]

Love it.

[Elena]

We show you ours, and then we go. Exactly.

[Sam]

Our two different worlds collide.

[Ash]

We swap Halloween.

[Elena]

Yeah. I love that. Well, honestly, everybody probably knows who you are and probably knows your YouTube channel. You have, like, nearly 15 million subscribers, am I correct?

[Colby]

Something like that, yeah.

[Sam]

Getting close. That's absolutely.

[Ash]

That's wild. Wild. How many years have you. Have you been at it?

[Colby]

We started our YouTube channel in 2014. I believe so. 11 years.

[Elena]

Wow.

[Ash]

That's the year I graduated high school.

[Elena]

Holy shit.

[Ash]

That's crazy.

[Elena]

That.

[Ash]

That's 11 years.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Colby]

That's insane.

[Ash]

Wow.

[Sam]

It's been a wild ride, for sure. But we've been only doing, like, the haun stuff for about five, six years.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Okay, so what'd you start off as?

[Colby]

So at first, we were starting on Vine. We did a bunch of, like, comedy videos.

[Elena]

Exactly.

[Ash]

I loved Vine.

[Sam]

We did, like, public pranks, like, back in the day.

[Ash]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam]

I mean, run around in Walmart and, like, get on the intercoms and stuff.

[Elena]

That's fun.

[Ash]

What else are you gonna do on mine?

[Sam]

Exactly six seconds.

[Colby]

Then we moved to, like, YouTube, and we started doing, like, all of, like, the tags and, like, I don't know if you remember, 2015, 2016, YouTube, where there's, like, like, boyfriend, girlfriend tags, like, question answers, things like that, all over the Internet, all over YouTube. We were doing, like, a lot of those types of videos, but ultimately decided to, like, do what we loved, which was going to abandoned places. Fun. We grew up in Kansas City, and on the weekends, there was not much to do besides, like, go and exploring abandoned places like your friends. And so we decided to. To film that out in L. A. When we were trying to figure out exactly what we wanted to, like, genuinely do. And then that naturally led us into haunted, of course.

[Ash]

M. Makes sense.

[Elena]

It feels right.

[Colby]

Yeah, Right.

[Elena]

Feels like you were made to do this. It really does.

[Colby]

Exactly.

[Elena]

And you guys have an escape room now.

[Colby]

We do, yeah. Just opened up on Hollywood Boulevard, which is insane.

[Elena]

That's badass.

[Sam]

Weird to, like, think about.

[Elena]

That's crazy.

[Sam]

I remember visiting Los Angeles in 2014, like, six months after we started being dang one day, like, we got to move here and, like, walking around Hollywood Boulevard being like, dang, this would be so cool. And now we have an escape. Now you have a legit Hollywood Boulevard, and it's like. It's a big full circle mode, man.

[Elena]

Yeah, for sure. Seriously. I love an escape room.

[Ash]

I know. How did that idea come about?

[Colby]

So we had been there in the past. We actually got invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there. I love that it's at the A venue or like, a spot called the Escape Hotel. And so it's like a. Just a giant, like. Yeah. Venue. It has, like, a stage and everything. There's people that perform. It's like a bar on top and stuff. And it has a super, like, creepy, ambient vibe to it. And so, like, when we went there to shoot, we met, like, the managers, and then our management got in contact with theirs, and we came up with the idea. And it took a little bit of time, but we finally got it, like, this past, like, six months, and it's been amazing.

[Elena]

That's so cool.

[Sam]

I've been really interested in trying to go in person with a lot of these types of events because I think a big part of why people watch our videos is they feel like they are coming on these adventures with us.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

And so we're like, okay, how can we actually give people some sort of adventure, some sort of, like, story? So between the escape room and, like, the year before, we opened up a haunted venue or we bought a haunted venue called for our school in Iowa. And, like, so we're just trying to, like, over. Over the course of time, just, like, get people in person and, like, how do you actually give this experience to people? And it's been really an interesting ride. Yeah, sure.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

It sounds like such a cool idea. That's such a perfect way to connect with your audience too, because it's, like, a perfect combo of everything.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Because I feel like even people who are, like, a little hesitant to do, like, haunted things and are scared. I feel like an escape room is, like, a safe way.

[Sam]

I love Escape Room. I don't know why. So good.

[Ash]

I haven't done one since, like, middle school, but I want to go to. Oh, you just did one.

[Elena]

We do them so much. Because I'm so competitive with them, though. I always want to pick, like, the hardest level when they give you, like, the levels that you can do them, like, hardest.

[Ash]

Yeah. I would end up getting locked in there for days.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Obviously they end, but if they didn't.

[Colby]

Imagine, like, our escape rooms, like, you.

[Ash]

Have to escape, like, you would, like.

[Elena]

Literally or you just.

[Colby]

You stay forever.

[Elena]

That's the next step.

[Colby]

Speaking of, you guys should, like, come out. You should try ours anytime, so let us know. And we made it extremely hard for a reason.

[Ash]

Oh, hell, yeah.

[Colby]

And so there's. I love that. You know the percent, like, success rate.

[Sam]

I forgot 30.

[Colby]

30.

[Ash]

Mikey's like, I know. I love that.

[Sam]

Let's go.

[Elena]

That makes me want to do it more. The lower the success rate, the more like, I'm gonna get out of there.

[Ash]

Yeah, I'll go with you, and I'll get it.

[Sam]

By association, we've put out a challenge that the fastest time to complete it with no clues by Halloween gets to be a part of the escape room.

[Elena]

Oh, putting their faces in there. So it's gonna be really interesting. My face is gonna be in there. Yeah.

[Sam]

What has to be now Put the challenge out there.

[Elena]

It's just me.

[Ash]

Zero clues.

[Sam]

Clues.

[Elena]

Yeah. Oh, I love it. We did one in New York once, John and I, and it was like a. It was actually like, an old hotel kind of theme, and we didn't make it out. And I think about it to this day. I'm sorry.

[Sam]

You're bitter about it still.

[Ash]

Are you blaming John? I feel like it's your fault.

[Elena]

Like, you were too slow on that one puzzle. It was your fau.

[Colby]

Every morning. Like, I remember.

[Elena]

Remember that escape room?

[Ash]

I'll never forget.

[Elena]

Never forget. I love it. Oh, so cool, though.

[Ash]

So going back, you purchased an elementary school in Iowa. Ferrar. Ferrar, Iowa. And you lived in it for, like, a week.

[Colby]

We did, yeah.

[Sam]

That was our way to announce it to the world. It's like, we bought it. We realized there's a lot of renovations needed because one of the biggest reasons that we bought the place is because it was about to be demolished. Like, there was threatening of demolition because it was kind of breaking down. It was a really old building, over 100 years old, and so we had to repair it. And then we're like, okay, well, we want to open this up for investigations because, like, our. You know, again, one of our big goals is to give these people, like, the experience of investigating themselves. And so we're like, okay, how do. How do we want to announce this to the world? Well, let's just do the craziest investigation and lock ourselves in our own school. Like, cannot leave for an entire week.

[Ash]

That's wild.

[Sam]

It was. It was wild.

[Colby]

Yeah. And it's. It's pretty interesting there because there's a lot of different spirits. There's a bunch of like. Like, Children's spirits who were students. Like one. Yeah. Back in the day. But there's also like a principal, sort of like figure who owns the school. He's a nice guy, but he's also very strict principals. Exactly, exactly. But then in the gym there's a boiler room to like the left side of it and that has something very, very dark in there. And we believe that there's like a portal that we weren't able to. To close. But yeah, something's definitely dark as well.

[Elena]

Oh, damn. That's like Frank Krueger energy.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Elena]

In the boiler room.

[Sam]

Like over the, you know, perks of owning a spot now we get to see all of the other investigations that are happening there, like to them. And there's like we have security cameras over there that capture all these things. We capture so many like really interesting paranormal evidence. And we have been seeing over the course of the last year that even since we've left, especially in the spoiler room, like the, the energy's gotten darker and darker and people sprinting out of the school, like getting threatened all the time and we're like, God dang, it's like worse than when we came.

[Elena]

What is in there?

[Sam]

Yeah, it's pretty wild. But it's been really interesting because.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Unlike, you know, most of the places that we get to go to or just like for a couple hours at night or maybe an overnight stay, like being able to not only go there for the week, but then continually see everybody and then being able to go back whenever we want, it's just like a, a much different experience.

[Elena]

So it's like an ongoing investigation.

[Colby]

Exactly. We're always used to just like going in for one night like you guys experienced and then just filming it and then that's it. But like having like a 24 7, like camera system.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

We're able to like actually conduct research and like when nobody's there, if like a door opens, like we can see that stuff.

[Elena]

That's so cool.

[Colby]

We're definitely going to be talking about like that sort of security cam footage like in the future.

[Sam]

But like those security cameras is like literally caught some crazy stuff. Like we've seen full on shadow figures. We've seen like footsteps. You almost like I. You guys seen Harry Potter? Like that map that sees people like walk. Yeah. Like literally things like that. Like walls moving out of nowhere where no one's in the room. And it's like, oh, okay. Like owning a haunted building. You see some wacky stuff.

[Elena]

Like, this is a great idea. It's super cool.

[Colby]

Last story. Like, our. Our buddy exploring with Josh. He was filming a video there, so it's on his channel, but there's an intercom that goes, like, around the entire building Principal obviously uses to talk to all the students, and it's only, like, able to be, like, turned on in the principal's office downstairs. And they were all the way upstairs and just. You could hear it turn on the entire school.

[Ash]

Oh.

[Colby]

And so it's. There's some stuff going on there.

[Ash]

And, like, did anybody say anything, or was it just, like, the click on?

[Colby]

No voices. It just clicked on and had that kind of, like, loudness. Yeah.

[Ash]

Oh, what the. The fire. That's so scary.

[Elena]

I would hate that a lot.

[Colby]

It's messed up there for sure.

[Elena]

That's so cool, though. It reminds me of, like, I don't know if you guys have seen Hell House llc.

[Ash]

I don't think so.

[Elena]

I feel.

[Ash]

Love it.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Elena]

That movie's. It's a found footage movie, but it's, like, an amazing one.

[Ash]

It's fun, like, very good.

[Elena]

And they have to stay in later. They're, like, coming up with a haunted house for Halloween, but they buy an old haunted location and they stay in it for a week. That just made me think of it. It turned out differently, so I'm glad. Yeah.

[Ash]

It went better for you guys.

[Elena]

Yeah, it went better for you guys. Guys, definitely watch that.

[Ash]

Okay.

[Colby]

Yeah, we'll check that out.

[Ash]

That's really good.

[Elena]

Because as soon as you said you stayed there for a week, I was like, you survived.

[Ash]

That's great.

[Colby]

Thank God.

[Ash]

Yes.

[Sam]

Survived a bunch of ghost hunting now. We didn't realize since, you know, our last podcast.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

It's been ghost hunting more and more often.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

We got inspired from our USS Salem trip.

[Elena]

We had so much fun.

[Sam]

Let's go.

[Ash]

It was so fun.

[Elena]

We were like. As soon as we left that, we were like, when can we do this again? This was so fun.

[Ash]

What was the first thing we did after that?

[Elena]

Probably Lizzie Borden again.

[Ash]

Right. Because we had already gone before. Yeah, we went back there. Yeah. We've done a few.

[Colby]

Talk about true crime right there. That's crazy.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

That's one of the.

[Ash]

The biggest.

[Elena]

I still want to know what happened there.

[Ash]

It's just so heavy when you walk in there, like, immediately.

[Colby]

You can feel it.

[Sam]

Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the darkest places.

[Ash]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Elena]

Especially the stepmother's room where she was killed.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Elena]

That's a gnarly room, that room.

[Ash]

And then, like, the kids room where all the toys are. That room freaks me the out.

[Colby]

Yeah. Are you talking about be attic?

[Ash]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sam]

So creepy.

[Elena]

Yeah, there's something weird in there for sure.

[Ash]

Wait, so with all the places you guys have gone to, do you ever feel like anything follows you or comes with you? Cuz you've been to a ton of locations.

[Elena]

That's exact.

[Ash]

I'm like, did you bring something into our office?

[Colby]

We're like, you guys are screwing up.

[Sam]

So sorry guys.

[Elena]

We're just gonna leave you with a present.

[Sam]

Exactly.

[Ash]

She's over there.

[Sam]

Leave you with a little friend. You know, a lot of people say that it's actually really creepy that like, sometimes we'll walk up to a place and like, someone be like, hey, I'm a psychic and you have something attached to you.

[Elena]

Oh.

[Colby]

And I'm like, yes.

[Sam]

Oh, I don't like that a lot.

[Colby]

One time too, where it wasn't even like, I think she claimed to be a psychic, but do you remember the story we haven't talked about this in so long, where we went to like a Ralph's one time in la and there was like a random worker there that was just like, hey, I'm. I'm a fan. Like, I've been watching your channel and like, you have to tell Sam that something's following him. I see it. It like I saw it in the store and like, it was like, to our faces. And we were like, all right, like, thanks. Thanks for the bananas. Like, leave her on.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Sam]

Yeah, I remember an old guy in like in a parking lot stopping me and being like, you're not gonna be okay.

[Ash]

And I was like, yo, do not.

[Sam]

Tell me that, like just out of.

[Elena]

Nowhere and that's it.

[Ash]

Like, period. You're not gonna be okay. Why?

[Sam]

And he's like, no, you need to get cleansed. And I'm like, oh, God, have you.

[Ash]

Guys been cleansed before?

[Sam]

We, we, we do that a lot more now.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Yeah, we're taking a lot more precautions and like, making sure we're a lot more safe with our investigations that we do.

[Ash]

So scary.

[Sam]

But definitely, to answer your question, there's a lot of people saying things have followed us.

[Ash]

There's been a lot of random people in parking lots, grocery stores.

[Sam]

I don't understand.

[Ash]

Holy damn.

[Colby]

And definitely we have a spot in, in Vegas. We stay there most of the time. And that house is definitely haunted. For sure. We'll see.

[Ash]

Spot in Vegas, you said?

[Colby]

Yeah, our spot in Vegas. It's like our, our main residence, but we'll like see like shadows going underneath, like the door and stuff like that. So, like, sometimes I'll think, like, Sam's, like, walking, like, by my door, and I'm like, oh, like, he needs to ask a question or whatever. Like, why not just not open it up? Nobody there Hear noises all the time.

[Elena]

Oh, damn.

[Colby]

There was one time, like, we were all, like, playing a game with some, like, friends, and there was like a.

[Sam]

How do I describe it?

[Colby]

Like a. Somebody, like, hit our blind, like, shade or whatever. You know, the ones that you can, like, pull down that are, like. It's not like the shades like this. It's like the horizontal ones or whatever. We had that pulled down or whatever. And then just, like, somebody, like, punched it. Yeah, random.

[Sam]

Imagine, like this. The shade has been completely still for, like, an hour while we're playing this game. And then, boom. It's like it got punched, impacted. It's like, whoa. We all just turned around. Like, what just happened, happened.

[Colby]

And, like, not like somebody punched it like you're punching at the window, but, like, it's coming this way, if that makes sense.

[Elena]

Oh, like, through the window.

[Colby]

Whoa.

[Ash]

Okay, so it was not like a. Like a concave. It was, like a convex vocabulary geometry and stuff. Wow. That's terrifying.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Did you need to get a new shade?

[Colby]

Well, no. Thank God.

[Ash]

Shades are expensive.

[Sam]

Exactly.

[Elena]

Damn. Wow. Holy shit. We've had some, like, weird things happen.

[Ash]

In this room the other day, in fact. Yeah, we were filming. Not filming. We were recording, like, a Poltergeist episode. And in the middle of it, we just have a calendar over there that, like, never goes off. And it will, like, if we complete a task, but we had not completed a task. So in the middle of telling the story, it just made this, like, like, musical sound.

[Elena]

It was like a lullaby sound.

[Ash]

I usually sit where you're sitting, Sam. I almost went through that skylight window. I was like, oh, my God.

[Elena]

Yeah, I went over there and nothing was on the screen. It hadn't, like, given a notification. It just was, like, this creepy lullaby sound. And we were like.

[Ash]

It was so loud. It was like, do, do, do, do.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Literally jumped through the window. That's scary.

[Elena]

Yeah. We've had weird shit happen.

[Ash]

I'm trying to think of other weird instances in here.

[Elena]

The tv. It won't now, but the TV very slowly fell.

[Ash]

Yeah, you thought that was hilarious.

[Elena]

Fell on Ash's head in the middle of her.

[Ash]

The TV is, like, attached to the wall. Like, it's like, it will not be fully on you. And it literally. I. Again, I sit where you're sitting and it just crashed onto my head. Nobody moved.

[Elena]

It was like slow motion.

[Ash]

There wasn't a bang.

[Colby]

It just literally was like, attempted murder.

[Ash]

And you were like, lol.

[Elena]

I could not stop laughing.

[Ash]

You said it was the noise I made.

[Elena]

It was. Yeah. But we've had little things, and, I mean, this house has a few things, because my youngest. I don't know if. I don't think I've told you. Have I told you guys about skeletons?

[Colby]

I don't think so.

[Ash]

It's like an honorary. He would retell every guest.

[Elena]

Yeah, I feel like. So our listeners are gonna be like, jesus Christ, we're gonna hear about Skeleton again.

[Ash]

No, you'll never stop hearing about Skeleton.

[Colby]

Okay, Skeletone. Okay.

[Elena]

My youngest, when she was three, I would say maybe even a little younger, maybe two or three, she would come in and tell us that she saw something in her room, which we were like, oh, great, here we are. And we were like, who is it? And she was like, his name is Skeleton. But she would say it like that. Like, not Skeleton. Skeleton.

[Colby]

Like, oh, Skeleton.

[Elena]

Yeah, like, his name is Skeleton. And I was like, skeletone, okay. And I'm like, what is he? And she was like, he's a skeleton. And I was like, oh.

[Ash]

And she's like.

[Elena]

And he sits on my bookshelf and watches me. And I said, okay. I was like, is he mean? And she was like, no, he's not mean.

[Ash]

He's a nice guy.

[Elena]

He's a nice guy. That's what she said. I was like, great. And she said, his bones look old. And I was like, how do you know that? Cause, like, you're two or three. And she said, they're. They're like. They're, like brown and dark.

[Colby]

How does she know that?

[Elena]

And that's. I was like, why would you know that? Like, she didn't even know what real bones look like.

[Ash]

She's wild.

[Colby]

Oh, my God.

[Ash]

She's the one we were telling you about.

[Sam]

That is my worst nightmare.

[Elena]

And she. And I asked her. I was like, so she sits on your bookshelf, like, how does he sit? And she was like, oh. She said, he lays like this.

[Ash]

Oh, God. Which I was like.

[Colby]

Scott, what are you doing?

[Sam]

Why are you watching my child?

[Elena]

What are you doing? Just like.

[Ash]

But he's gone now.

[Elena]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He would leave every once in a while. And I was like, oh, he leaves and comes back. I was like, he comes back, though. And she goes, yeah, he leaves sometimes to go visit his family.

[Colby]

His family?

[Elena]

His family.

[Ash]

He has a family.

[Elena]

And one day he left to see his family and didn't come back.

[Ash]

And I was like, stay with me.

[Elena]

Found your family.

[Ash]

Even scarier because who showed up then?

[Elena]

Yeah. So we got rid of Skeletongladed. She was kind of. She was like, like miss. She was like a little bummed. She was like, oh, skeleton didn't come back. And I was like, all right, that's fine. And then one day, she.

[Ash]

In the middle of hide and seek.

[Elena]

My husband and her were playing hide and seek and they were like hiding under a blanket together. And she was like, oh, I hope the mister doesn't see us. And he was like, what? And she was like, the mister? And he was like, you have to explain to me what the mister is.

[Ash]

Well. And she. He said like, oh, no, he won't find us.

[Elena]

Yeah, because she explained like, he's a guy with no eyes. Oh God. Sometimes he takes the snacks in our pantry apparently, which I think is low key. Which I think is just her that's.

[Ash]

She's just like.

[Elena]

But she said like, he's a little scary. She doesn't like him. And so John was like, oh, he won't find us. Like trying to like maintain composure. And she goes, oh, no, the mister will always find us. And he was like, all right, game over. Like, I don't want to do.

[Ash]

That's the most ominous I've ever heard in my life.

[Sam]

That is horrifying.

[Ash]

Yeah, the mister will always find. She doesn't talk about him anymore.

[Elena]

Yeah. But if you, if you bring him up, she's like, oh yeah, I remember him. Yeah, like she remembers him.

[Ash]

Oh my God.

[Elena]

Yeah. And Skeletong.

[Ash]

Yeah, we have a history of like creepy children in this family. Like, I was a creepy child.

[Elena]

You were a creepy child.

[Ash]

Were you a creepy child? I don't think I was. No. Actually, yeah, you were. Because you used to just like sway and talk about flags.

[Elena]

Oh, I used to wear flags. I just sleep. I was a sleepwalker.

[Ash]

But you were a creepy sleepwalker.

[Elena]

I mean, all sleepwalkers, I feel like, are pretty creepy.

[Colby]

Yeah, that is very true.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Seeing anybody likes. Yeah, 4:00am yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

No, thank you.

[Ash]

Yeah, I used to see a ton of ghosts when I was little. Yeah, you did. I saw. I used to live at Elena's parents house because we're like aunt and niece technically, but really like sisters. And that house is haunted as. Yeah, it's like an old farmhouse. I think it's like a hundred years old.

[Elena]

Oh, maybe a little more 100 years old. Yeah.

[Ash]

Yeah. And I would see like, I Saw like a little boy one time, like a farm boy with like a cap and like, you know, like those like old timey pants. And then the socks would be like. I saw him like in the corner of our shared room just like reading a book. And I like woke my mom.

[Elena]

She was so little when she said this.

[Ash]

I think I was like five probably. And I still can see it in my head.

[Colby]

Whoa.

[Ash]

I woke my mom up and I was like, the boy is like reading like there's a boy in here, he's reading your book. And she was like, no, no, no, like go back to sleep. And she woke up and her book was wedged in the closet and she had not left it there.

[Colby]

No way.

[Ash]

And I like hadn't gotten out of bed or anything.

[Elena]

Like jeez.

[Colby]

But it was non threatening. It was just kind of like a apparition doing his thing.

[Ash]

I was chilling. Yeah, he was just reading the book.

[Elena]

He was probably like what the hell is this? This? Yeah, it's crazy.

[Colby]

He probably saw you too and has like a story to tell. His like ghost. I saw a girl there.

[Elena]

Crazy.

[Ash]

Like this girl saw me. She was telling her mom. Her mom didn't believe her. Yeah.

[Sam]

What do you think about that? Like I feel like when we're kids we, we are so much more open to seeing spirits and other things like that.

[Ash]

I don't know.

[Sam]

Obviously every kid has had their imaginary friend, but I don't know, a lot, a lot of me thinks that like sometimes they aren't imaginary friends. We're just more, more open to it with kids and then you know.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Cuz you're not scared yet, I think.

[Elena]

And you're not. You're open to everything.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Like kids have no biases. No.

[Sam]

Like society hasn't told you what you have to believe and stuff like that.

[Elena]

It's so. I think they're just totally open.

[Ash]

Did you guys see when you were kids?

[Sam]

More so. Not as like vivid I think as those types of things. But like I used to especially like you know, fifth grade and below, I'd get like deja vu like once a week. It was super like to the point where I was like predicting things that were about to happen.

[Elena]

Oh wow.

[Sam]

I've seen this thing. She's about to say this. Okay. Yeah. And then she just said this. It was like super weird. Happened all the time when I was a kid.

[Ash]

That's interesting now.

[Sam]

Like less. I don't know. It's weird.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

But now we don't see much.

[Colby]

Yeah. I only had one really haunted Kind of scary experience. When I was, like, super young. I think I was in sixth grade. So what, 11, 12? Yeah, something like that. And I was really getting into, like, Christianity for, like, the first time in my life. And I was. This was during a time in my life where I was, like, going to, like, a Bible, like, camp. And I was also, like, during the weekdays, like, I would have, like, a Bible study on a Wednesday and then go to church on Sunday. So I was, like, really just involved with it. And it's. It's hard to explain, but, like, I had a loft bed, right? So, like, it was one of those where you had to, like, climb ladder to get on top. There's, like, a desk underneath. And it happened, like, three nights, like, in a matter of like a week or two or something like that. But right before I was about to fall asleep, like, right before I was, like, losing consciousness, I just heard, like, a. Like. Like right in my ear. And it, like, woke me up. And then I would try to go back to sleep. And then, like, right in my ear, like, to the point where, like, I knew I wasn't, like, dreaming. I wasn't like, like, going crazy. I ran to my mom's room, I told her the story. And that happened again, like, two other nights in, like, a month maybe. I don't know.

[Ash]

At that point, like, you just said, like, 11 or something.

[Colby]

11 or 12. Yeah, something like that. And, yeah, I still, to this day, don't know what it was. But, like, part of me. Part of me believes that, like, because I was getting into Christianity and stuff like that, like, it was something trying to scare me or, like. I don't know. I have no idea. Maybe I've told that story, like, once. Once before.

[Elena]

Oh, that's so creepy.

[Colby]

Yeah. I don't know what it was.

[Elena]

I want to know what's up this day.

[Colby]

And this never happened to me for.

[Sam]

The rest of my life.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

And it was just, like, a couple nights that had happened.

[Colby]

Yeah, it was. Again, this was so long ago. So I'm not gonna lie. I don't know. I think it was, like, it happened, like, two or three nights, and then, like, it would happen, like, three times.

[Ash]

I mean, that's significant.

[Colby]

I would say to the point where, again, I went and woke up my mom at 12 years old.

[Ash]

Yeah, no, exactly.

[Colby]

In middle school. Like, obviously you don't want to do that. I'm like, hey, mom, like, there's something breathing in my ear before I sleep. And it was so bad that I had to wear headphones.

[Ash]

Oh yeah, to go to sleep.

[Colby]

Cuz I was afraid of something like breathing my ear. I would have anxiety.

[Ash]

I could feel it too. Like hear it and feel it or just hear it.

[Colby]

It would just be like a loud breath. No, no feeling. Yeah.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Colby]

And that's it too. No words. It was just kind of like a. Like wake up.

[Elena]

That's so annoying.

[Ash]

I really hate that because I was like himself.

[Colby]

I don't like scary.

[Ash]

No, that's.

[Sam]

That's terrifying.

[Elena]

I don't do worst when you're a parent of a child who does that because you have to like keep your together.

[Ash]

That's something I'm not looking forward to.

[Elena]

Traumatize them by being like, that's terrifying. Like, are you serious? Like when they first told me about when. Oh, the twin, the twins. Yeah. I didn't even think of that. My. My older ones, they. They haven't really had a lot of things, but they had one.

[Ash]

They just knocked it out of the park.

[Elena]

They really. Yeah, they hit the home run with the one thing they had. And it was in the. Our. We lived in a house that was from like 1860, so it was like crazy old. We always felt some stuff there. It had like a lot of history.

[Ash]

That place was scary. I used to sleep on the couch in the living room. When I would come over and I would like hear shit in the dining room.

[Elena]

There was a lot going on in that house. And they happened to be in their like first like bed beds, like toddler beds. So they weren't in like cribs anymore. And they were like next to the door. And they just started yelling one night and John and I run up the stairs because we're like, what happened? We thought one of them like fell out of bed. And they're both sitting there like up in bed. And one of them says like, please get them to leave. And we were like, what? Like what are you talking about? And she was like, people came in here with scissors and we're trying to cut our sheets.

[Sam]

Oh my God.

[Ash]

What?

[Elena]

John. Literally.

[Ash]

I love John's reaction.

[Elena]

We're standing in the doorway and John just goes, I'm out. Like, he was like.

[Ash]

He was like, this one's you. Okay?

[Elena]

Because he was like, I'm to going to this up. I can. So I was like, what? Okay? And I'm like, what? And I'm like, is it a lot of people? And they're like, yeah, a lot of people came in and we're trying. A couple of them were trying to cut our.

[Ash]

And they're like, I burned my house down personally. Like, well, we'll start fresh somewhere else.

[Elena]

I was like, okay. And so I'm like, the doorway was right, like, next to their bed. And then there's this little, like, nook right here where the attic was. It's like a door to the attic. It was a very, like, spooky little area. So I was like, yeah, I would be scared too. So I stood in the doorway, and I was like, are they in the room right now? And she was like, no. And I was like, where are they? And she goes, right there. And she pointed behind me in the.

[Ash]

Little dark ass hallway.

[Colby]

Oh, my God.

[Elena]

So I was like, oh, my God. Okay. And so I. I didn't know what to do. You're like, three bitches stepped backwards into the nook. And I was like, so they're, like, around me right now? And she was like, yes, they're right. And I was like. I was like, okay. And I was like, listen, guys. And I just, like, talked to them and was like, you're scaring them. Like, their kids. This is their house. That's not cool to do. Like, you can't scare them. Like, you can. And I was like, and even if you want to come in our room and with us, you can, but, like, you can't be in this room. This is not okay. And, like, please leave.

[Colby]

That's horrifying.

[Elena]

And it never happened again.

[Ash]

Like, maybe you set your boundary. I do feel like spirits somewhat listen to intentions, you know, or, like, boundaries.

[Elena]

We had to sleep in their room that night, but it never happened again.

[Colby]

We've been told that, like, even if you can experience really scary things like, that spirits do have to listen to you. You can demand them. Like, we always say, like, do not follow us home. You cannot touch me. That even happened to us, like, the other. Other night we can get into. But yeah, like, if you. If you tell them, like, firmly, they have to listen.

[Elena]

Yeah, yeah, I believe it.

[Colby]

You have the power over them.

[Sam]

Wait, on a scale, like, 1 to 10, how much do you guys believe in the ghosts and the paranormal stuff?

[Ash]

Oh, like 350.

[Sam]

Really?

[Ash]

I'm a full believer.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Ash]

I just don't think. Think. I think there's way too much evidence that there's some kind of afterlife and that even if. Even if spirits, like, quote unquote, aren't actual people, I think energy goes somewhere. You know what I mean?

[Colby]

Energy doesn't die.

[Elena]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colby]

It's a fact.

[Elena]

I think I'm like a. I'm like a Seven or eight now.

[Sam]

Okay. So.

[Colby]

Okay, there we go.

[Sam]

When your kids are saying these types of things, like, are you not like bricks?

[Elena]

Yeah, I think, yeah. I think when they were saying these, like when that, when the scissors one happened, I was probably like a four or five.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Elena]

That's why I felt a little more comfortable being like, hey, don't, don't be in this room.

[Ash]

It is so crazy to me that we grew up in the same haunted ass home and that you are not more of a believer.

[Elena]

I know because I, I just want to like explain it.

[Ash]

I think it's just energy. I think that's how you explain it.

[Elena]

Yeah, I think that's why I'm getting.

[Sam]

More like what were mainly the things that brought you from a four to a seven.

[Elena]

I think now that we've gone through some of these, like I'd never really done it that much, so I didn't. I had like things going on in my own house. But I could kind of explain in them way. In some way.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Or just in my brain explain them away. I was like, it's fine. But these kind of things, like even like getting touched by something. I think when we went to the USS Salem, something like blew in my ear.

[Colby]

Oh yeah. Remember that?

[Elena]

And I fully felt it. It like fully felt it and did not expect to feel it. So like scared the. I think I jumped like 40ft.

[Ash]

You did. Like you definitely did.

[Elena]

For sure. That was terrifying. I think those kind of things, I just can't.

[Ash]

How do you explain that?

[Elena]

You know, and feelings now, like going into certain. Like Lizzie Borden going into that house. I was like, this feels different.

[Colby]

Right.

[Ash]

We've both been told before and I think you were recently told again like that we're intuitive.

[Elena]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ash]

You know, so I do think you're start. I think you're more open to it now. So you're starting to feel it more when we go to these different places.

[Elena]

Yeah, I think before I was like, no. Yeah.

[Ash]

You're like blocked off a little bit.

[Colby]

Yeah. Which kind of goes like full circle to like the, the kids and stuff, like experiencing this because it's like.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

You're just more open in general, I think like spirits or, or the energies, whatever you want to call it out there can like tell if you're like closed minded. And there's actually a term of it called like a blockhead where you just won't.

[Elena]

You're just blocking.

[Colby]

Won't believe it.

[Ash]

So they don't, they don't even try. Yeah. Yeah.

[Colby]

So they' like oh, this guy's not going to believe. But if you are open to it, that's when stuff start, starts happening.

[Elena]

That makes sense.

[Ash]

That makes a lot of sense actually.

[Elena]

Cuz I try when we go into these places to be as like open minded as possible. Cuz I'm like, well if I'm going to experience it, I should experience it.

[Ash]

Right.

[Elena]

Don't try to be like the asshole who's like I'm not going to believe any of this.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Like I'm just, I'm not going to try to debunk everything.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

That's what we tell all of our guests that when we walk in it's like, hey, like if, if we notice them being like kind of like a blockhead, it's like, well, you're not going to get anything if you're literally going out to deny it. You. We first started ghost hunting, we both like really didn't believe in the paranormal side of it much and we didn't get much, you know. But then when we really were out there, like okay, well you know, put the cameras off. Let's actually try to get something happen just purely out of interest. That's when we started getting stuff happen. So that's always the best way to go about it when ghost hunting and all these different things. Be open minded, like let things happen.

[Ash]

Makes sense.

[Elena]

That's the thing. When you just let it happen, it happens.

[Ash]

It sure does. Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah. Like when we were at Lizzie Borden and we'll get into our little game in a second but when we went to Liz and we were all sitting, we were with Corinne and Sabrina from Two Girls, One Ghost. And we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.

[Ash]

Yeah, the dining room.

[Elena]

And we were all just reading from like the guest book where people have put their experiences and I think Sabrina was reading them out loud and like just, she was like, let's just see what happens if I read these things out loud and see if anything happens from up. We were alone in the house. We had booked the whole house just for the four of us. From upstairs a woman's voice, voice yelled something. So clearly it was like who's there?

[Ash]

Wasn't it?

[Elena]

It yelled like who's there? And it was a woman's voice and you can hear it on the camera because we have like a camera just sitting on the. Because you can see us on the camera. All of us just like what was that? And we, we searched. Nothing was up there. No one was up there.

[Ash]

You were so scared to the point where, like, Elena thought somebody broke into the house.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

I was like, is there somebody in here?

[Sam]

That is terrifying.

[Elena]

That's what I was more scared of. I was like, is there, like, a.

[Ash]

Real person in here afraid of real people?

[Colby]

Definitely.

[Elena]

It was so clear, though. And we weren't really trying to do anything. We were just reading the experiences and just sitting there. And I was like, that was the clearest thing we had heard all night.

[Ash]

It was gnarly, horrifying.

[Elena]

It was so scary.

[Colby]

Were you guys filming, too?

[Ash]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colby]

Okay.

[Ash]

I think we have that on camera.

[Elena]

We do. Somewhere. Okay.

[Sam]

Okay. So cool.

[Ash]

I was eating starburst, so I didn't hear it.

[Elena]

Corandor. Like, did everyone.

[Ash]

Everyone hear that? Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah, yeah. It was terrifying.

[Ash]

But on the. On the thing, like, the recording back, you can hear it fully.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah. You heard it. Oh, my God. You just can't make out what she's saying. Yeah.

[Ash]

But you can hear, like, a voice in the distance.

[Elena]

It was terrible.

[Colby]

Horrifying.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

God.

[Elena]

It's the noises when they're, like, outside, like, even, like, when we were doing it, and the noises that were happening, like, in the distance.

[Colby]

Yes.

[Ash]

Those are the things that freak me up. And you guys still get scared?

[Elena]

Scared.

[Colby]

Oh, yeah.

[Ash]

Which is. It's, like, surprising in a way.

[Sam]

Yeah. There's some. Some things that we're like, okay. Like, we've heard these types of things before, but there's always stuff that's new.

[Ash]

Yeah, it's always, like, you know, like, jarring. Yeah.

[Colby]

It's the story that really freaks me out. So even though we've been doing it for years, like, some would think that we would get used to it, but it's. It's not the case because, like, we'll spend, like, a week beforehand, like, researching it, studying it, watching YouTube videos, all that. And so, like, we're kind of prepping ourselves to, like, go. And so when we walk in, we're like, oh, man. We've already, like, learned so much about this place, and that's what, like, makes it freaky.

[Ash]

That makes a lot of sense.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Because you're just so familiar with, like, every facet of the house.

[Colby]

You know everything about the story. And so, like, when you've heard that there's, for example, like, a door slamming or something like that, and then that happens to you, it just ultimately makes it ten times more scary.

[Ash]

Yeah, for sure.

[Elena]

And you're like, what's coming when it's outside the room? I'm like, is it Coming here. Yeah.

[Ash]

And what are we gonna do when it presents itself?

[Elena]

How do I fight this.

[Ash]

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[Colby]

In terms of like most scary or.

[Ash]

Just like one I would say most scary or that you like had the most crazy experiences at?

[Sam]

Oh, that's really interesting. I mean one like personally, the thing that scares me the absolute most is a upcoming video that we have. It's we went to the Paris Catacombs. It's 200 miles of the largest grave yard in the world. Six million dead bodies buried underneath Paris. And it's just miles and miles of a labyrinth of different like caves, systems and everything like that. And there's no map and stuff you.

[Ash]

Can get lost so easily in there.

[Sam]

We know so many people that got lost that, you know, got threatened to be robbed. There's gangs down there, People die down there. It's really rough in terms of just like the physical danger. And then you got to think it might be one of the most haunted places in the world with 6 million dead bodies down there. All the rituals, stuff that's gone down there. Oh, yeah. Really, really dark things. But I. We've known about that for a long time and I've pushed off that video for, I think, five years now.

[Elena]

Oh my God.

[Sam]

I was like, I cannot do it this year. I cannot do it this year. This year. I just like, need to muster up some more courage. And we finally went for this year's like, Hell Week series. And like, it was genuinely terrifying. Like, literally walking around next to. To hundreds of bones that, you know, used to be people and like, just like us. And it's really eerie feelings. And not only that, like, our investigations were like, absolutely horrifying. We, like, tried to record EVPs, basically just sound recordings. You play it back and sometimes there's, you know, recordings of things that you can't hear with a human ear. And there was literal guttural screams back at us, like, and then sometimes like saying full sentences back to us and we're like, what is going on here? I've never heard anything like, was genuinely terrifying.

[Colby]

And like, that place didn't just have paranormal danger, but obviously it was like illegal to go down there. And then there's these people that like, live down there.

[Elena]

Yes.

[Colby]

Called Cataphiles.

[Ash]

And they'll like, steal your map and your flashlight.

[Elena]

Yes. So obsessed with that idea.

[Ash]

Did you come into contact with anybody?

[Colby]

We ran into one.

[Ash]

Shut up.

[Sam]

What's. What's really scary is we went down there with a couple buddies and they're like, we're not going to tell you a certain things that we know about this place until afterwards. Just. Just for the sake of your mind. Right.

[Elena]

Oh my.

[Sam]

Creepy. So we leave and he goes, okay, well, I didn't want to say this, but I know a guy who recently went down there and got his backpack, his food, his water, everything stolen from him. Him. And like, he got left deep in the catacombs by a guide purely just like, I just want to rob the guy. And all he had was 10 left on his phone battery and then one little flashlight. And he was down there for hours and hours and hours just waiting, aimlessly walking around before someone luckily found him and he made it out alive. But like, he could have easily died.

[Elena]

Easily.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

That was just another random YouTube explorer that we just went down there. Like, I want to go film a video.

[Ash]

Just like we did, and his guide left him. Is that what you said?

[Colby]

The video's on YouTube. Shout out Nightscape, I believe his name was. Yeah, you have to watch it. It's, like, probably one of the scariest YouTube videos I've ever seen because it's so real.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

And, like, he's by himself completely. No food, no water, and he needed. He was, like, from England, so he didn't know. Know, like, obviously, like, the French language or anything.

[Elena]

Communicate.

[Colby]

Yeah. So scary.

[Elena]

I would just sob. I think I would just.

[Ash]

Yeah, just sit down. Like, I'm.

[Elena]

Just sit down and cry.

[Sam]

And, like, if you're. If your light goes out, it is pitch black.

[Ash]

Oh, yeah. It's like. I mean, it's a.

[Sam]

Not only are you in a labyrinth and you have no idea what's going on, it's pitch black. So you literally can't see anything.

[Elena]

And it's like a pitch black you can't conceive of. Oh, it's like we don't exist in that pitch black.

[Sam]

You could have your. Your finger right next to your eyeball, and you could not see it.

[Elena]

Not even, like, sense. That's horrifying.

[Colby]

Claustrophobia. Wading through waters that go up to your chest and stuff. That's freezing cold.

[Ash]

Did you guys have to wade through water?

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Wow.

[Colby]

So we were completely soaked. We had to, like. It's so funny. You basically, like, in public, on a busy street, like, climb through a manhole.

[Ash]

Yeah. And you're just like, everybody.

[Colby]

It's like when we were, like, making our escape finally, we were, like, crawling out there, like, completely dirty, drenched, like, soaked, and people were, like, looking at us like, oh, my God.

[Ash]

They probably see it all the time there. Like, people coming out of manholes, like, all up.

[Colby]

Exactly.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Crazy.

[Sam]

Like a army crawl, like, on our hands and stuff like that, for probably a football field or more like, at certain times, just to get from one cave to the other.

[Elena]

Was it, like, tight?

[Sam]

Yeah, like, you had to push.

[Ash]

You essentially caved off.

[Colby]

Yeah, basically.

[Sam]

You had to push your back. Is that what it's called?

[Elena]

It's called sp.

[Ash]

Plunking. What's that movie?

[Elena]

The Descent.

[Ash]

The Descent. Have you ever seen that? Where they go, like, cave dive? Oh, you got to watch.

[Colby]

I don't like those movies. So scary.

[Ash]

To me, they are so scary.

[Sam]

There is a movie based on Paris. Catacombs covered it on Scream. Oh, my God. Hor. Horrifying. I. I watched that on the plane going to Paris. I was getting to the mood.

[Ash]

Save that for after.

[Sam]

I was just like, I want to be fully immersed.

[Ash]

And you were.

[Elena]

I bet.

[Colby]

I was like, no, thank you. I'm just gonna take a nap.

[Elena]

Disassociate real quick.

[Sam]

Do you have a favorite?

[Colby]

There's so many, like, cool spots that we've been to. We've been all, like, around the world doing this stuff, so there's, like, really cool locations, like castles and stuff. But in terms of, like, just one that comes to mind is, have you guys been to Valiska?

[Ash]

No, I.

[Elena]

That is.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

That's like my bucket list.

[Ash]

Initially, I said that I wouldn't go, but I think now that we're getting more into it, I would. Yeah, I'm really. I'm dipping more into to these things. Like, I agreed. I'll do, like, a Ouija board now and stuff.

[Elena]

We covered Villisca.

[Colby]

Okay.

[Elena]

Like, the case.

[Colby]

So you know the story behind it. I kid you not. Like, out of all the haunted places that we've been personally, that one talking about feeling when I walked in there, you can feel how evil and heavy it is. I'm sure it involved a lot of children and stuff. Like, a lot of messed up things happened in that house. And, like, what was it, eight people, you guys.

[Ash]

Yeah, it's been a while since we covered it, but I'm. I think you're right.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

And there's a brutality, like, blood on the ceiling and stuff, right?

[Colby]

Yeah. And the. Yeah. Because you use, like, the blunt side to murder, so you can see. See, like, the chops in the ceiling. And what's interesting, like, what's. What makes it scary is this, like, just in a random neighborhood. So it looks like a. Just a normal little community, tiny little neighborhood next to a bunch of other houses. But then you walk in, it's like a different world. Yeah.

[Sam]

It feels so dark.

[Elena]

I feel like the energy in the.

[Ash]

I want to go actually.

[Elena]

Gnarly.

[Sam]

Have to try it.

[Elena]

I know. We have to.

[Ash]

All right, so obviously you guys have worked with, like, a lot of psychics and mediums throughout your endeavors, so we wanted to tell you some of the most wild techniques that we found from throughout the years.

[Colby]

Okay.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Elena]

So just a couple of, like, interesting, like, Victorian era seance.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

They used to do some weird stuff.

[Elena]

And they were, like, diabolical. There was a couple that I'm like, you guys are really. Okay.

[Sam]

So we're talking about some like scam artist type of stuff.

[Ash]

Yeah, big time. Big time.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

So I'm gonna start with possibly the craziest one that we saw.

[Elena]

Yes.

[Ash]

The ectoplasm of it all. All. So mediums in the early 1900s. The ectoplasm. So mediums in the early 1900s said basically, when ectoplasm started leaking, that was the signal that they had tapped into the spirit world. That's how you knew, like, going down, you know? Yeah.

[Sam]

Damn. That happens to us all the time.

[Ash]

Always. All kinds of goo. So it would sometimes include a gauzy substance leaking from. From all kinds of places on the medium. Their ears, their mouth, their nose, their eyes, and apparently sometimes even their genitalia.

[Elena]

Ew.

[Ash]

Yeah. And I have a picture of that. It's safer work, but kind of.

[Colby]

Oh, what the Wait.

[Sam]

Oh, my.

[Colby]

That's a lot.

[Sam]

Way more than I expected.

[Elena]

Yeah. Damn. Has that ever happened to you?

[Colby]

Time I had some goo coming out of my pants. It was almost too.

[Sam]

It was crazy.

[Ash]

Almost that much.

[Colby]

It was wild.

[Ash]

You're like, damn, the ghosts are here.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Please stop.

[Elena]

Something is happening.

[Ash]

Please stop.

[Sam]

It would not stop.

[Ash]

So eventually, when this, like, really got popular, the term ectoplasm was coined. I don't know what the they were calling it before.

[Sam]

Oh, God.

[Ash]

God only knows. But, yeah, that term was coined by French physiologist and psychical researcher Charles Richet. So as soon as the white, viscous fluid started leaking from wherever it did, that's when you knew that the spirits were in town. I guess what the medium said the purpose of the fluid was during the seances was that it would turn into, like, the face of a person trying to be contacted from the other side.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

It would face in the gray goo.

[Ash]

They'd see faces in the goo.

[Elena]

And we'll get into why they really investigated the goo.

[Ash]

Sometimes the goo would be like a limb. Like it. It would look like an arm, like a disembodied arm. Or sometimes it could be like a full body figure. Oh, in of the goo.

[Sam]

That is a lot of goo.

[Ash]

A lot of goo.

[Sam]

Did not know this much ectoplasma existed.

[Ash]

I didn't either.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

So now, the interesting thing about this, though, is that apparently the mediums would tell you this would only work in the dark. The lights could not be on, and you could not get close to them while this was happening.

[Elena]

Can't see.

[Ash]

And if you turned on the light, they were like, oh, it's just going to disintegrate. So, like, we got to keep it super dark up in here. So Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic of this practice, and he called out mediums and basically how they got to getting the ectoplasm to come out. He said they were swallowing all kinds of things, like cotton mixed with goose grease, cloth gauze, muslin, and sometimes sheep's lungs.

[Colby]

What?

[Ash]

They would, like, mix all this shit together. Like, it makes me think of just, like, paper mache.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

But they would ingest it, or they'd, like, stick it in their ears, and they'd have, like, wires that they could pull, like, obviously without showing whoever they were reading. And that's when it would start to flow. I don't know about how they, like, how that picture came to be.

[Elena]

Imagine being that committed to the bit. Yeah. Like you are that committed to the scam.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

That you're willing to swallow chiffon and.

[Sam]

Or put it in places.

[Ash]

Yeah, or put it in places.

[Elena]

Put it. Yeah.

[Ash]

And just allow it. Allow it to, like, leave. I'm not committed to that bit. No. Yeah. Because they would essentially just, like, make themselves sick in the cases where it came out of their mouth. They just, like, throw up sheep for anxiety. Yeah.

[Elena]

Oh. Ah.

[Ash]

So one of the mediums who was famous for this was Marthe Barad. She was also known as Eva C or Eva Carriere. She was actually said to be the first person to introduce this practice. And sometimes she would even include, like, little pictures of people so that when it started leaking out, people would look at the photos and be like, oh, my God, that's my grandma. Oh, my God, that's my cousin Beth who died, like, seven years ago.

[Elena]

What?

[Ash]

But she eventually got exposed when people realized that the photos were of celebrities from magazines, and she would cut them out and, like, disguise them somehow. Now what? Yeah, eventually somebody during a seance was like, wait a second, this is, like, a king from, like, another country. This is not my grandpa. Whoa. And she got called out.

[Sam]

Wait, so you're saying they would, like, eat the paper and then, like, regurgitate?

[Ash]

Yeah. So she would. Basically, she used, I guess, sheep's lungs mixed with, like, other stuff, like muslin and that kind of thing. And she would, like, crinkle up pictures into it. It. So then when they would, you know, go through the goo, they would see the pictures.

[Elena]

Oh. Now, was she someone who, like, puked it out or did she, like, piss it out? Was she one of which one?

[Ash]

So I think she was just puke. Yeah. This isn't her. Here's another one. So some people Were puking.

[Sam]

Oh, God.

[Elena]

E. I hate it.

[Ash]

Yeah. I think she did all kinds of things with her ectoplasm. I think she was one of the. These people.

[Colby]

Oh my God.

[Ash]

As well.

[Elena]

Okay.

[Ash]

I think it was just coming out of everyone.

[Colby]

Like somebody peeing out your grandma.

[Ash]

Yeah. Or what you think is your girl. And then you're like, that's just the king of England.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Sam]

It's a man.

[Ash]

So that was. That was our girl.

[Sam]

That's crazy.

[Elena]

Wow.

[Ash]

Eva.

[Elena]

So that's ectoplasm.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

It's so funny. We're doing this investigation in. In Australia out of prison. And like we did this whole investigation. 3 o' clock in the morning. The owner walks in, he goes, you guys want to see something cool?

[Colby]

Sure.

[Sam]

He goes, if you don't tell anybody, I have ectoplasmic. This is amazing. We're like, huh? I have never heard of someone having ectoplasm. I keep it in a jar, of course.

[Elena]

Holy.

[Sam]

You're a jar of liquid. I have to see. Like, we gotta do this with a couple other buddies. And so 4am, walk into this guy's like, back office and he pulls out this jar of clear looking weird goo liquid. And it's in this, like, you know, mason jar. He's like, I've been keeping this for ages. I was like, where did you get this?

[Ash]

You're like, I have a lot of follow up questions.

[Sam]

I'm like, I. I don't know if I want to know. But like, also, what? I've never.

[Elena]

We've.

[Sam]

We've seen a lot of interesting characters, but we've never had someone present their ectoplasm. Ectoplasm in a jar. And I keep this special just to show people.

[Elena]

Did he say where he found it?

[Sam]

He said it was like he found the goo on some table.

[Colby]

Right. Like after just like the seance stories. Like after like a big like, investigation, like there was just goo that appeared.

[Ash]

He just said, you know what?

[Sam]

Some of this goo and throw it.

[Elena]

And just got it into the jacket.

[Ash]

No, I. The vibe I get from him is just straight hair.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

He didn't even give me that.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

So you held it?

[Colby]

Well, I tried. I like reached for it.

[Ash]

The jar.

[Colby]

That was. Yeah. And he was like, like, you can't touch my goo. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

[Ash]

You can look, but no touch.

[Sam]

But he was like, yes, sir.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Ash]

How do you leave that conversation?

[Colby]

We were like, thanks. We're going to go do our last investigation.

[Sam]

That was so bizarre.

[Elena]

Wow.

[Sam]

It was. It was exactly the color that you would imagine this to be.

[Elena]

At least he presented it in a jar and didn't exactly present it.

[Ash]

He didn't just like lift it up.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Or just like leak it out of.

[Elena]

Their nose or something.

[Sam]

Exactly.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

That's wild. Also, I'm like now hearing him say that in an Australian accent in my head.

[Elena]

Oh, I didn't even think of that.

[Ash]

You want to see my goo? That was a little British.

[Colby]

Don't touch my goo.

[Elena]

Please.

[Sam]

Get roasted for our Australian accent. Sorry.

[Elena]

I want to see ecto. No, I don't. Yeah, I changed my mind. I kind of do hear about it. I just.

[Ash]

I don't want to experience it happening. But I'd see that guy's jar of ectoplasm.

[Elena]

I'd look at that guy's got.

[Ash]

I'd be like, please let me see.

[Elena]

Damn. Well, mine are not.

[Ash]

Mine are not nearly as like graphic wild as that.

[Elena]

So I was just gonna talk about spirit trumpets, which just seemed to me like, silly. They were like these little cone shaped trumpet things that they would be like cardboard or metal and they used it. It just made me think of those, like, cartoons where like they would put like a giant horn to their ear. And they would put a horn to their ear and say that they were like hearing the spirits talk to them. And then they would use the horn to like distort their voice and pretend that the spirit was speaking through them. And sometimes they would levitate it with like wires and shit. And if it was an audience, they would have it levitate over to that was getting the message. So they would just like. And it would be like little kids sometimes under a table who were like.

[Ash]

Trolling at their night job.

[Elena]

Yeah. Just like, you know, moonlighting after school job. And they would just have it float over to the person that the message was for and like, it would just come plop by your ear.

[Ash]

That's pretty high tech.

[Sam]

That's pretty awesome. I kind of want to see that.

[Elena]

But it had to be dark. So you can see like always when you're scamming.

[Ash]

It's dark always for sure.

[Elena]

Yeah, always. So there's that one that was just silly to me that I was like. I just pictured this little, like trumpet floating through the air. And it's like you got a message and then one that was diabolically evil to me. And they did it a lot was sometimes they would embed. They would like make the candles themselves and they would put. If they were doing a reading for like Specific people, they would put the perfume or cologne of the person's loved one in the candle wax. So when they burned the candle, they would smell the cologne or perfume and they would think that the person was there.

[Ash]

That's a crime.

[Elena]

And I was like, yeah, what?

[Ash]

That's up on another level.

[Colby]

That's so messed up.

[Sam]

Also, how do they know the person's perfume?

[Elena]

That's the. I don't know if they would do like a.

[Ash]

There was only three back then. Maybe that is it luck of the draw, I guess.

[Elena]

Yeah. They didn't have to worry about like the whole perfume center. Sephora.

[Ash]

I guess there was like Chanel to worry about. But some. Some oil. Yeah. Yeah.

[Elena]

Just like a flower.

[Sam]

That is pretty messed up.

[Elena]

Can you imagine? And they'd like bring it up. Like they'd be like, oh, I smell something. And the person would be like, that's my husband's cologne. Oh, that's like, well, he has to be here. And I'm like, you have to be the nastiest person.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

To go with that. Yeah. I won't commit to the bit enough to piss out ectoplasm and I will not commit to that bit either.

[Ash]

I'm glad that you're not willing to piss out ectoplasm. No, that's a good quality.

[Elena]

Will not I stand. This is. I'm standing on business right now. I will not do that.

[Sam]

Hold it in a jar. But not for sure.

[Elena]

But I will not produce it.

[Sam]

Yeah, we were just talking about that how like it is so like up to like think there are people that make money on telling you about your dead loved ones when they have absolutely no idea.

[Elena]

Yeah. You know, that is up like Sylvia Brown.

[Ash]

Cuz it's like, how do you. How do you just go to asleep after that? Yeah. You know, because you know you're lying.

[Sam]

Yeah, exactly.

[Colby]

How do you.

[Sam]

How do you live with yourself?

[Ash]

Or do you think they get to the point where they think they're onto something?

[Sam]

I think that happens to a lot of people.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Yeah, definitely.

[Colby]

I think they might know that they're like deceiving potentially. But they're also like helping people out. Like they probably justify it in their head by being like, oh well, it's making them feel better to get these answers when in reality. Reality they're just lying to you.

[Elena]

Yeah. Just muddying the water.

[Colby]

Yeah, that's how they justify it.

[Ash]

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

[Elena]

Yeah. I've been getting. I'm like on a Sylvia Brown kick right now because I'm Getting them on my TikTok for some. I don't know where they came from. I don't know how this happened.

[Ash]

Now you're gonna get more because we're talking.

[Elena]

Oh, I already am. I'm on, like, Sylvia Brown talk. All of a sudden. It's like people just started. Like, she was like, this psychic from. She used to be on all these talk shows. Like, she was always on, like, Montel.

[Ash]

Williams for, like, Sally Jesse Ruffin.

[Elena]

Like, you know, those kind of daytime talk shows. And she would go on there and she would like. But she would help with, like, investigations and, like. Or she wouldn't help with investigation. She would give her input.

[Ash]

She was helping.

[Elena]

And she would, like, talk to, like, family members of people who were missing or murdered and, like, give them information. And there was a couple of times that she was so wildly wrong that it was, like, crazy. Like, one. There's a clip of her, and it's one lady talking about her husband or her boyfriend or fiance. I forget she. What. Which one? And she was like, he died. And, you know, I just, like, I need some closure. I need to know where he is. We were never able to get his body. And she doesn't tell her anything else. And Sylvia Brown looks at her and says, well, that's because he's in the water. And she was like.

[Ash]

And you love telling people that.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah, she loves that. She'll throw you in the water no matter what. But she says, she's like, water, honey. And so she's like, honey, he's in the water. And you can see the lady be like, that's not what. And she goes, well, it was 9 11, and he was a firefighter on 9 11. So, like.

[Ash]

So how do you get.

[Elena]

And you can see Sylvia Brown be like. She said, damn.

[Ash]

I go, yeah, I don't know.

[Elena]

He's in the water. Like, she just commits to it. But you can see it. She's like. Like, she's I that up, but she just commits. And you can see the lady's like, okay. And just sits down. I was like, you throw that their loved ones in the water too. I'm like, the worst kind of outcome.

[Ash]

She said that to another parent of a case that we covered. And wasn't the girl, like, still alive and being held captive?

[Elena]

I think so. She's done it a couple of times.

[Ash]

Yeah. Like, once the water trick doesn't pan up for you one time, you think you'd move on.

[Elena]

Once you fail at it like that, you need. You need to retire the water like don't, don't use that one again after you hear that. Cuz when she said he, it was 911 when he died and he was a firefighter.

[Ash]

I was like, what?

[Elena]

How do you that up so bad? Sylvia, honey, Sylvia, I'm telling you. Go on. Sylvia Brown Tik tok. You'll get all these awful clips that.

[Sam]

Actually would be like, be so cool to like to see a compilation of all the mediums just failing horribly. Just like catching them in the act and they're like, oh God y.

[Elena]

Because you can see it on there. Like you can see the panic set in for like a second. But she recovers so fast and just commits.

[Sam]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Elena]

Crazy.

[Colby]

So personal.

[Elena]

That's why people do that.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

I would die. Like I would just start crying. I would never be able to do that. I couldn't deceive someone like that.

[Ash]

No naming names. But have you ever worked with a medium and been like, I don't know.

[Sam]

There's definitely a lot of like interesting characters.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

I mean we've been doing this for years.

[Ash]

That's the thing.

[Sam]

There's a lot of people that like, you're like, there's like no way that that can view. Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colby]

So definitely a couple for sure.

[Ash]

But then on the flip side, have you had things be like holy 1000 we've experienced. I was going to say as a.

[Colby]

Group, but yeah, 1,000%.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

So it's like yeah, I believe in some and then I think some are scam artists.

[Elena]

That's what I think.

[Ash]

That's pretty much what I think too.

[Elena]

I do think people have that ability like her especially, I feel like. But I think there's a lot of people who are just kind of looking for the money.

[Sam]

Yeah, I think I'm like probably 90%, maybe 80, 85% are fake.

[Elena]

Really?

[Sam]

Honestly, I believe that real Cuz I think most people do it for the money and I think the people that are out there that are doing it genuinely to help people and you can tell that they're either not taking it for the money or like it's not their main gig. It's just like a side thing that they do. I think those people are a lot more believable. Other people that are doing it for like research and stuff like that, I think that's much more believable. But like all little mom and pop shops that are like a psychic 50% off today, it's like, okay, you right, you're going to make ends meet actually.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

So it's it's much different.

[Ash]

I've definitely been to psychics and had them tell me things and I've been like, what? Yeah, that's not accurate at all.

[Elena]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ash]

But then on the flip side, I've been to psychics and they've like predicted things in my life that have happened. And I've been like, holy.

[Colby]

Yeah, it just depends.

[Sam]

When we first started this, I was like, yeah, sure, someone can tell the future. But now I'm like, oh, wait, someone can probably tell the future. What is going on here? This is insane.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

But I heard someone describe it as like, it's just another one of the human senses. And some people have more dormant than others. Just like some people have perfect pitch. You know, it's like very rare, but humans can't have that. And then it's like, people do it. It happens. You know, it's just one of these things that, like, you know, a very select few people have that ability to see certain things or frequencies that others can't.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

And so with that logic, I was like, oh, that kind of makes sense.

[Ash]

Like, yeah.

[Sam]

The idea of something like a perfect pitch or like, you know, the people that are like the fastest people in the world or something. I was like, they're people with superhuman type of talents. And it isn't too far fetched to believe that some talents can help you see things or hear things that are not necessarily accessible to everybody.

[Ash]

Yeah, definitely.

[Colby]

Each medium too has like a different sort of skill that we've, we've found. It seems like. So, like we've met some that are only able to see figures or people, whatever. But then there's some that like, can feel it. There's some that use like the claromancy.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

And stuff that use like the bone throwing.

[Elena]

Right. So cool.

[Colby]

Yeah. Just a lot of different, different techniques to. To contact or see the afterlife. It's interesting.

[Ash]

It is interesting.

[Elena]

I feel like the ones who do like. And this is just me. When they do like a big audience of people, those are the ones that I'm like, I don't buy it.

[Colby]

I hate and stuff. Yeah.

[Elena]

I just can't buy it.

[Ash]

My girl, Teresa Caputo.

[Colby]

I. Oh, do you believe her? She the Long Island. Right.

[Ash]

She's the Long island medium. I don't know. I, I do believe her. I don't wanna. It's, you know, I believe her, period.

[Elena]

Yeah, I believe her. Okay.

[Ash]

Yeah. I just love her.

[Elena]

I'm skeptical. Yeah.

[Colby]

I've seen her show when I was like little. I loved it.

[Elena]

So I'm like, I loved the show.

[Colby]

I hope she's real.

[Ash]

I know. I do, too.

[Elena]

It's just the audience, the big audience ones.

[Sam]

I'm like, it's hard when you see, like, shows of, like, mentalists or, like, illusionists that, like, you think, whoa, how in the world did they know that? Yeah, just like, you know, a trick that they've done a hundred thousand times.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Like sleight of hand or.

[Elena]

That's the thing.

[Ash]

Some quick thing that we don't see.

[Elena]

And when you really break it down sometimes when they do, like, the big audience things, when you break down how they get to the answer, it's like, so clear how they get there that.

[Sam]

You'Re, like, in the moment. You don't think that.

[Elena]

Yeah, yeah. Like, people give information and they don't realize they are.

[Ash]

That's very true. Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Really good at doing here and stuff like that.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

I love seeing the people who, like, won't give information, though. And the psychic is actually for real. And they're like, they get it on basically nothing.

[Elena]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ash]

You are one of those people.

[Elena]

I always go, whenever we go to a psychic or any tarot card read, I'd give nothing. She's literally, I will just sit there and just.

[Sam]

I want to see.

[Elena]

I take my rings off. I won't, like, even show that I'm there. Like, nothing.

[Ash]

They're like, does that make sense? And she's like, I'm like, maybe.

[Elena]

I don't know. I'm like, you tell me. I don't know. Keep going. You know better than I do mean well.

[Ash]

I'm like, yes. And when my husband said that, and my dog from four years ago, we lived here, I start crying. I'm like, that's so. Yeah.

[Sam]

Like, I'm on to something.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah. So we're going to. We'll move on to. We'll do a little game.

[Sam]

Love games.

[Elena]

We'd love to do a. Would you rather.

[Ash]

Okay, yeah, we're going to start off with.

[Elena]

With that.

[Sam]

So are you guys participating or is it just us?

[Ash]

We always participate. Yeah.

[Elena]

Okay, Cool, cool. Yeah.

[Ash]

All right. So would you rather let a Ouija board spirit possess your right hand for 24 hours or you both, like, wait a second.

[Sam]

That's so specific.

[Ash]

It is. Or would you rather let Zack Bagans narrate a few months of your life in a dramatic voiceover?

[Elena]

Oh, that's a dream come true.

[Sam]

Yeah, that was the good ZV narration.

[Colby]

We love Zack Bacons. He is the king of paranormal. If he was like, now you're going to go downstairs and eat some cereal. I would actually.

[Sam]

Oh, my God. He can make literally, like a puppy terrifying, you know?

[Ash]

No, it's actually so true.

[Sam]

His narration is.

[Elena]

His narrations are like top tier.

[Ash]

They are.

[Elena]

Because they're crazy.

[Ash]

They're intense.

[Colby]

It would be like a slow narration. I feel like he's just like, now we're going to the car. And you're like, come on.

[Ash]

You're like, come on.

[Elena]

I have to go drive you a little crazy. I feel like. I mean, having someone narrate my life.

[Ash]

Would drive me insane.

[Elena]

I was gonna say I kind of. I would think it's hilarious for like, maybe a couple of hours. Like, I'd be like, this is so fun.

[Ash]

I wouldn't even make it a couple hours.

[Elena]

I think hour three, I'd be like, you can leave now.

[Ash]

Like, I need alone time.

[Elena]

Yeah, that's true. But I also don't want my hand possessed for 24 hours.

[Colby]

Yeah. What if you, like, kill somebody?

[Elena]

That's the thing. It's like idle hand kills.

[Ash]

I didn't think of that.

[Elena]

Oh, wow.

[Ash]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Elena]

It could be. Okay.

[Sam]

Your right hand can do a lot.

[Elena]

It's true.

[Ash]

Your right hand can do a lot. But also Zack Bagan narrating your life for a few months or 24 hours.

[Elena]

That's true. So you can fix this. If you've ever seen the movie. I don't hands. I can at least try to fix it. So if it's 24 hours, okay, you could lock yourself in a room. You could maybe like handcuff your hands.

[Sam]

Or you could handcuff yourself.

[Ash]

Yeah. And I would just watch some tv.

[Colby]

Oh, that's a good idea. And your hands just like.

[Ash]

Yeah, Your hands just going off, letting.

[Elena]

It do its thing.

[Ash]

I'm doing that.

[Colby]

Yeah, that's smart.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

I'm changing.

[Ash]

You're changing.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Just because the length of time.

[Ash]

Is vegan purist.

[Sam]

I would. I would use that time to record a documentary about my life. Pre. Pre narrated.

[Elena]

You know, that's pretty smart, actually.

[Ash]

There you go.

[Elena]

Yeah, you've already got the narration down.

[Ash]

All right, so next, would you rather accidentally summon a Victorian ghost who refuses to leave until you let them co host a vlog? Or would you summon a demon who only communicates through Sam and Colby? Fan edits on TikTok.

[Sam]

I love how specific these are. Who came up with those? So collective effort.

[Colby]

That is hilarious.

[Ash]

We try to tailor them to our guests, as you can see.

[Sam]

Oh, man, I feel like we are Being communicated by Sam and colby edits on TikTok all the time.

[Colby]

I mean, that's so funny. Like I want to. I want to choose that one because it's so funny. But like, practicality, I'd probably be like the first one, honestly.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Because like, think about it. If you had a ghost like co. Co vlog like that's so viral, you're.

[Ash]

Breaking the Internet at that point. You also essentially are already do that. Like they're kind of like background stars in your videos, you know?

[Colby]

Exactly. But like imagine we're like, hey guys, Sam and Colby, like, what's up? Like we're here with. And he's like Paul and invisible guy.

[Elena]

Like I'm Jedi.

[Ash]

I actually love that.

[Elena]

I get that.

[Ash]

What are you doing, Sam?

[Sam]

Yeah, I think to your point, the. The viral vlog is there, you know, plus like, you know, I feel like a ghost could. Could get other ghosts to get active, you know?

[Ash]

That's true. He like summons the other ones.

[Sam]

Yeah, exactly. The ghost would probably be the best ghost hunter out there.

[Ash]

Probably hunt what? You know?

[Elena]

Cuz he'd be like, you're doing this all wrong. Let me tell you how to do this.

[Ash]

Like, he's like, this is what we respond to, you know?

[Sam]

Yeah. He's like teaching the perfect translator, you know?

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Or is he like us where he's like, what was that?

[Sam]

The ghost is like, did you see that?

[Elena]

He's freaked out by you. He's like, why are you here? Like, what's going on?

[Ash]

He's like, oh my God, it's freezing in here.

[Elena]

I thought that was you.

[Sam]

That's awesome.

[Elena]

All right. I think I would wanna. I would want to have a third voice on the pod that's a ghost. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Ash]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, we do Nicholas.

[Elena]

We do. Yeah.

[Ash]

When we do our listener till episodes, we do Ghost Tube and there's a ghost, Nicholas, who like with us while we record them.

[Elena]

He just like has things to say about the lizard.

[Ash]

He doesn't like me. We're not. We're not best friends forever. He loves you. Yeah. Running theme in our life actually.

[Sam]

Wow.

[Ash]

Yeah. I don't know what I did.

[Elena]

I don't. I don't know what I did either. So I don't know why.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Beef with Nicholas. All right.

[Ash]

Beef with Nicholas. Big time.

[Elena]

We.

[Ash]

We've been friends like the last couple. We've been. We've been amicable the last couple times.

[Elena]

Dead men love me.

[Ash]

Apparently dead men have a thing for you.

[Elena]

I don't know what that's about.

[Ash]

Yeah. All right. Would you rather use a possessed doll as your permanent camera in or have to share your bed with a ghost who won't stop whispering? Smash that subscribe button until dawn.

[Colby]

Until dawn.

[Ash]

Until dawn.

[Elena]

All night.

[Colby]

Oh, man, could. I would film that.

[Sam]

That's so funny. These are so unique.

[Colby]

These are amazing.

[Sam]

Never heard any of these.

[Colby]

Probably smash the subscribe. Like that's only like a what, 12 hour thing and then you don't have.

[Ash]

To say it for a whole day.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

It does it for you. You can, but you're sharing your bed with them and you're trying to. Which you've experienced. I have experienced that full circle moment.

[Colby]

I just hear you're like, smash that subscribe. Yeah, but like, imagine giving like a camera to like a haunted doll. Like, are they even going to be able to like hold it up with.

[Elena]

That's a shaky cam moment.

[Ash]

Exactly. Are they going to throw it at.

[Sam]

Your head and then you're getting the double chin angle all the time. They're kind of short.

[Elena]

They're never going to give you good lighting.

[Colby]

Not.

[Sam]

Not the good angle.

[Ash]

True.

[Sam]

Would be sick if the. If the possessed doll was like a cast member and like just like hanging out with us all the time, but.

[Elena]

The turned it on himself.

[Colby]

Not cool, like running next to you or whatever.

[Sam]

I mean, imagine like it was me, you, and little Annabelle and just Annabelle with the camera.

[Elena]

That is a really bad angle from down there.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Their B cam, you know, like.

[Colby]

Oh, yeah. She's like the B cam. We're like, annabelle, just go film.

[Ash]

Can you get the outside shots?

[Sam]

She gets pissed, he'll take our thumbnails.

[Ash]

She's like, oh, dang it.

[Elena]

See, we wouldn't have to really worry about that.

[Ash]

Yeah, we really don't.

[Elena]

We could have a possessed doll be our camera person for one episode a month.

[Ash]

Yeah. And guest episodes will be like, this is just our possessed doll. You don't mind that? Yeah, but I already have.

[Elena]

My kids are already jumping in my bed. I don't need a ghost in there as well.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

I'm not too hurt. Hot.

[Ash]

I'm cranky in the night time, so.

[Elena]

I don't want to.

[Ash]

I don't want to deal with that.

[Sam]

Yeah, you'd punch the ghost.

[Ash]

I would absolutely punch the ghost. My husband says whenever he wakes me up that I like go into a fight position.

[Sam]

Like that.

[Ash]

When he woke me up yesterday, he was like, are you okay?

[Elena]

Are you dead?

[Colby]

Say 4pm you're hot.

[Ash]

Yeah, 4pm I'm ready to fight.

[Elena]

I just wake up angry. I just wake up, like, what the.

[Ash]

Like, every time I do that thing, too. Like, I'll be ready for motherhood when it comes, because I go, when I wake up. You have to do that.

[Sam]

Oh, my God.

[Elena]

That's, like, the mom thing that you have to do. My kids tell me all the time. They're like, you sound like you're dying. Because they'll be like, mama. And I'm like, what? Like, it's fine.

[Ash]

Drew's always like, water do that. I'm like, I don't know. I'm not, like, trying to.

[Colby]

You're getting ready.

[Elena]

Getting ready to terrify your children in the middle of the night.

[Ash]

Yeah, I'm ready. Let's go.

[Elena]

Actually, yeah, I would definitely not have the ghost in my bed.

[Ash]

No, no.

[Elena]

It would be much more useful for you.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

So mine is. Would you rather accidentally marry a ghost through a botched seance wedding ritual? Like, oops, I married one of these.

[Sam]

Whoa.

[Elena]

Or have a poltergeist that insists on being your chaotic third roommate and constantly messes with your editing files?

[Colby]

You're my own.

[Elena]

You're either getting married in a botched sale ounce.

[Ash]

To a ghost.

[Elena]

To a ghost?

[Sam]

Does that mean 50 of our assets are going to this ghost?

[Ash]

Well, you maybe can sign a prenup, I guess.

[Elena]

Unless you do the. You could do a post note.

[Ash]

A post note? Yeah, you can do a postnut. A prenup. But after the fact, I have no idea.

[Elena]

Or because. Because this poltergeist is up your editing.

[Colby]

Oh.

[Elena]

Like, you get to the point where you're happy with the video, and he's like, how about I add a laugh track?

[Sam]

That is a literal word. Worst fear of my life.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Who's to say even if you accidentally marry this ghost, you don't fall in love?

[Ash]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Elena]

That's true.

[Ash]

I like the optimism there.

[Sam]

You know, people are marrying everything now.

[Elena]

Yeah. You know? Yeah.

[Ash]

People get married to, like, cars, and.

[Sam]

You can marry yourself. Why not marry ghosts?

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

I'm trying to think, though. It would be a really hard conversation with our girlfriends. You know, like, just being like, hey.

[Ash]

You know, feel like it was an accident.

[Sam]

Like, hey, we got to talk about an open relationship here.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Married.

[Ash]

What do you think about sister wife life?

[Sam]

Yeah, exactly.

[Elena]

With a ghost.

[Sam]

Can we introduce a third?

[Elena]

Because I did by accident.

[Sam]

My bad.

[Elena]

And now the ghost has to.

[Sam]

It was a wild weekend, guys.

[Ash]

It's kind of like a Corpse bride thing. Actually, it is. That's actually exactly what it is very much that.

[Colby]

Can we ask a like, how long are you roommates with this Poltergeist trickster ghost?

[Ash]

Through editing. See season.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Once you're done editing most of your editing career.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

You just get screwed up files of ruined.

[Ash]

Like he pops in, he's your roommate. So I guess you could like buy him out of the lease. But I don't know it'll be that easy for you.

[Sam]

He like deletes the most important investigation every video.

[Elena]

He's like, that's the thing.

[Ash]

That's what you're. That's what you're facing.

[Elena]

He adds like old timey car horn sounds in the middle of your video.

[Ash]

Just like almost every now and again.

[Sam]

I feel like apparently I already have, you know, extra ghostly friends around all the time. So I wouldn't mind, you know, having one in the relationship too.

[Colby]

Honestly.

[Sam]

Oh man.

[Colby]

I mean I. I would hope that when I get married it would be for life. And so like I'm trying to think.

[Sam]

I am not divorcing even if it's a ghost.

[Colby]

So I think I might choose the. The roommate. Honestly. Yeah, yeah.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Because I don't know if I'm going to be like editing and talking until I'm like dead.

[Elena]

That's true.

[Colby]

So like that's honorable.

[Ash]

You just deal with it for a while.

[Colby]

Yeah, Yeah. I think marriage is more important at the end of the day.

[Elena]

Yeah. That's true.

[Ash]

That's beautiful. I respect that.

[Elena]

I would.

[Sam]

Optimism of, you know, maybe falling in love with this.

[Ash]

They were both beautiful answers in different ways. I like them both.

[Elena]

Real nice. I don't want another husband.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

God. I want. I like mine.

[Ash]

I like mine as well.

[Elena]

But I don't want anymore. I don't.

[Ash]

I don't edit. So never have, never will.

[Elena]

I know. It would be Mikey who would really be. I know.

[Ash]

Well, back in the day you used to edit.

[Elena]

I know I used to edit.

[Ash]

I've never touched that shit.

[Elena]

And I know how annoying that would be to have somebody touching it. I know. But now it would just be Mikey's problem. So I guess I'm going with Poltergeist.

[Ash]

Poltergeist.

[Elena]

Poltergeist will live with Mikey and Dave. But you're. But.

[Ash]

Oh, okay. They're so they're Mikey's roommate.

[Elena]

Yeah. Now they're Mikey's.

[Sam]

Oh God.

[Elena]

Wow. That's pretty easy.

[Ash]

Sorry Mikey wrecked off camera. Mikey's like, you guys.

[Elena]

Damn. Yeah. Cuz I'm not getting married during a ritual.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

It's a no for Me? No, no, no, no.

[Ash]

Accidentally or intentionally?

[Elena]

No. All right, so we're going with poltergeist. I'm sorry, Mikey. Love you so much.

[Ash]

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[Ash]

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[Sam]

I can't believe they're having a gender.

[Colby]

Reveal for their dog.

[Elena]

No, no, no, no.

[Colby]

This is a breed reveal.

[Elena]

Oh.

[Sam]

So, yeah, they're finding out the breed of the puppy they're rescuing, so they could just be spending all their money on, like, pet insurance.

[Elena]

Instead, we got lemonade for Roscoe and.

[Sam]

It covered vaccines, microchipping. We saved 90% on vet bills.

[Elena]

Oh, here we go.

[Sam]

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[Elena]

So the next one is. This one's gonna be hard, I think.

[Colby]

Okay.

[Elena]

Would you rather have Bloody Mary show up every time you say subscribe or have a demon gently bite you every time you plug merch? Just.

[Ash]

Just a little hump.

[Elena]

Just a little love bite every time.

[Colby]

Do we say subscribe or do we plug merch more?

[Sam]

Oh, I think we plug merch more than we asked for subscriptions.

[Colby]

That's true.

[Ash]

You don't need as many subscribes now. You're like, oh, my God, 15 million.

[Colby]

You know what that's actually like. That's.

[Ash]

I feel like they don't want it for you.

[Colby]

Whoa. Yeah, I. So I would probably say, oh, man.

[Sam]

Actually. But what do you want to happen?

[Colby]

Well, it's like. Like I'm trying to think about, like, how hard is.

[Elena]

So Bloody Mary's just going to show up. I don't know what she's going to do. That's the other thing. She didn't charge me know what she was going to do. She's just showing up or.

[Sam]

So basically, like, are you into to stalking women or.

[Elena]

Or demons who. It's just a gentle bite.

[Colby]

I feel like a gentle bite is like. Like, at least you know what's coming. You know what I mean?

[Elena]

It's not gonna be hard.

[Colby]

He's like, kind of nice.

[Elena]

Like, it's not breaking skin.

[Colby]

We're just gentle bite. Okay. It's just like a little nibble and.

[Elena]

You'Re like, ooh, yeah. You're just like, ah.

[Colby]

Oh, by the verts. Yeah, I would probably do that because what's Bloody Mary gonna do?

[Ash]

Like, you don't know.

[Colby]

I get the gentle bite.

[Elena]

Then gentle bite. Gently bit by a demon.

[Sam]

I like the gentle bite too.

[Ash]

Gentle bite.

[Elena]

Gentle bite.

[Sam]

Really cool. If we started every video and we were just like, hey, like watch this. And you like filmed a gentle bite.

[Elena]

You would just like buy explorer merch. And then you were like, look at that.

[Ash]

That's kind of like two birds, one stone, you know?

[Sam]

Cuz then every viral clip clip is us plugging our merch.

[Ash]

Exactly.

[Sam]

Oh, smart.

[Ash]

That's actually genius. You're like, how do you get ghost to bite?

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

How to get ghosts to bite? Oh. Shopexplorer.com.

[Ash]

That'S awesome.

[Elena]

Gentle bite.

[Sam]

That's so funny.

[Elena]

That's the important part.

[Ash]

I would take gentle bite too because I have a puppy. So I do have a demon biting me. Not that gently.

[Sam]

Wow.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

You're all used to it.

[Ash]

Oh, I'm so used. I have like scars and at this point.

[Sam]

Dang. You put it up with it.

[Elena]

Yeah. I would say gentle bite. I think I'm going with gentle bite because it again, it's a gentle bite. Yeah. I wanna, I kind part of me wants to see what Bloody Mary is up to.

[Ash]

That's a gamble.

[Elena]

I know. I don't know.

[Ash]

I'm also with you a lot, so can you not.

[Sam]

I was gonna say like how long she's showing up though, you know that's like one bite. He's like boom. But the subscribe could be like visiting you in your sleep.

[Elena]

That's true.

[Ash]

Yeah. What if you like talk in your sleep and you're like subscribe.

[Sam]

All my sleep talking is.

[Ash]

You never know. Like the merch. Yeah.

[Elena]

I think you know what I'm going with demon. Yeah. Because I. I don't think me and Bloody Mary would get along very well. Nah. She seems angry.

[Ash]

Two strong gals.

[Elena]

She seems too, too angry. Yeah. You know, I was so scared of.

[Ash]

Bloody Mary when I was little. I still remember the first time I did it.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

I like screamed and ran downstairs. I got in trouble to. Which was lame.

[Colby]

Stupid.

[Elena]

Yeah. I've never done it.

[Ash]

You've never done it?

[Elena]

I've never like. I've been around people who have done it, but I refuse to do it.

[Ash]

Oh, it was like such a sleepover thing.

[Elena]

We. We absolutely should. Was like Bloody Mary in my bathroom.

[Ash]

Let's do it in a haunted location.

[Colby]

Oh yeah. Next haunted location.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Like don't bring anything. And then Bloody Mar Halloween party somewhere in there.

[Elena]

Itinerary dough.

[Ash]

Maybe after Halloween party.

[Sam]

We invite Bloody Mary to our Halloween party.

[Elena]

Obviously that's a draw. It is. Well, would you rather have a cursed Ouija board that will sometimes randomly spell out your most embarrassing memories for everybody? Embarrassing and like, upsetting memories. Oh, and upsetting. Yeah, I added to it. I added to it because this one's pretty wild. Or would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost? But that Victorian child ghost is only gonna refer to you as Daddy Colby and Papa Sam.

[Sam]

Awesome.

[Colby]

Definitely the child ghost.

[Elena]

Boom.

[Sam]

That is sick.

[Colby]

Like, definitely. I'd just be like. I think it'd be just funny. Honestly.

[Ash]

I'm not your dad.

[Colby]

I'm not your dad. But. But I'll be your dad, so I.

[Sam]

Guess I'll be your dad.

[Ash]

You adopted a ghost child.

[Colby]

There we go.

[Sam]

That would be so funny. Yeah, I feel like that'd be awesome to have an extra, like, you know, character in the vid. So it's just like this.

[Ash]

Your ghost kid, Papa Sam.

[Elena]

I think that's a valid choice.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Are you. Do you want another kid?

[Elena]

Why not?

[Ash]

Another ghost kid? Yeah. Call you Mama Elena.

[Elena]

Yeah. Mama Alina.

[Ash]

All right. Why not?

[Elena]

We'll go with it. Because I don't want my. My spelled out in a Ouija board. Yeah, I don't want that.

[Sam]

Cuz that you have to do a Ouija board with other people and so people are just.

[Elena]

You're not doing it alone.

[Colby]

Yeah, like the ghost was lying. I swear.

[Elena]

Yeah, that wasn't me.

[Ash]

Yeah, I'd go.

[Elena]

I'd go ghost kid, Victorian ghost for sure.

[Sam]

Yeah, no one needs to know those secrets.

[Ash]

No, those are locked up. All right. Would you rather spend a night alone in a pitch black asylum with a Ouija board or spend a night in your own bathroom, but every mirror shows a cursed clown version of yourself?

[Sam]

Oh, God, I loved your reactions.

[Elena]

And you're alone in the asylum. Like, no one else. Just you by yourself with a Ouija board.

[Sam]

A Ouija board. The first one sounds like an intense version of our normal YouTube videos.

[Elena]

Yeah, it does.

[Sam]

And the second one sounds like I'm going to have nightmares forever.

[Ash]

Like a.

[Colby]

For the rest of your life.

[Sam]

Trauma, traumatic experience. So I probably.

[Colby]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Ash]

First one.

[Colby]

You said one night. It's the first.

[Ash]

Both are one night.

[Colby]

Oh, both are one night.

[Elena]

You just have to stay in the bathroom all night and just look at.

[Sam]

Like your mirrors are just. Yeah, dude, I just feel. Feel like that's a great idea for a vid.

[Ash]

Yeah, it's just kind of like extreme salmon cold.

[Colby]

There we go.

[Sam]

Let's do solo challenges on a Ouija board.

[Colby]

Like we're turning all this into like a business idea. We're like, yeah.

[Ash]

You're like, wait, I sat down. Do you have a pad of paper?

[Colby]

Let's do that.

[Elena]

You're like TM first too.

[Colby]

The Ouija board.

[Elena]

All right. Yeah.

[Ash]

I think I would do my own bathroom and probably just like not look at the mirrors.

[Sam]

Oh, just close your eyes, blindfold yourself and fall asleep on the floor.

[Ash]

Yeah, I only have two mirrors. Mirrors.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Oh, I mean I didn't know you could just like not look.

[Elena]

Yeah, I feel like maybe you have to look.

[Ash]

You have to look.

[Elena]

Yeah, I feel like that's too easy to avoid it.

[Ash]

A cursed clown.

[Elena]

Maybe that maybe you have mirrors all around your room. Oh, I just added to it.

[Ash]

Damn.

[Elena]

Okay.

[Sam]

I had to make it harder.

[Elena]

I was like that. We gotta make that harder.

[Sam]

Cruel.

[Ash]

I don't want to be in a pitch black asylum alone. At least if I'm in my bathroom, I'm in my own house, you know.

[Sam]

Don't knock it till you try it.

[Ash]

Yeah, that's true.

[Colby]

Alone though, scary. But the views.

[Ash]

Do it for the likes. I think I'm going bathroom. It's one night.

[Elena]

I can do it. I want to say the asylum cuz I want to do that really bad. But I know myself and I would absolutely panic.

[Ash]

The other night you were like, if.

[Elena]

We have to do anything, I was like, I can't go in a room by myself. Like I will lose my mind.

[Sam]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Elena]

And then I was like. And then when we were in there, I was like, okay, I could probably go in a room by myself. But then I was in the back going up the stairs and I almost.

[Ash]

Crawled over all of you.

[Elena]

Like I was about to like parkour above you.

[Ash]

You were like grabbing. You were like pulling me back.

[Elena]

It was like pitch black behind me.

[Sam]

Oh, walking at the end of a line in a pitch black area.

[Ash]

It's the worst.

[Elena]

And it was towards the end of the night and I think I just felt way more on edge.

[Ash]

At the end of the night I went to grab something by myself and I was like, why the fuck did I volunteer to do this?

[Colby]

Oh yeah, Yeah.

[Elena]

I was like, damn, freaky.

[Ash]

I remember it was like, like right at the bottom of the stairs. So I was like, I can do it. But then I was like, no, it's scary.

[Colby]

It's a different feeling for sure.

[Elena]

Yeah, I literally almost scaled all of you and jumped.

[Sam]

You know, like there. Everything you like feel behind you, but then in front they're going so slow. It's always like, go fast.

[Ash]

Oh, yeah.

[Elena]

I felt like you guys were at a dead halt and I was like, I'm dying back here. Somebody's going to kill me back here. And you're not moving. I know.

[Ash]

That was scary.

[Elena]

So I would say bathroom probably.

[Ash]

Yeah, I would do bathroom.

[Elena]

Yeah. And just deal with the consequences of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colby]

Well, we've also, again, we've had experience being in one of these places, so I think it'd just be cool.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

You're like, been there, done that. That's the thing I want to.

[Elena]

I. I would do it if I was with one other person, the asylum.

[Ash]

But you're not.

[Elena]

Just one other person would make me feel better.

[Ash]

Yeah, I would do it with the other person too.

[Elena]

Yeah. Me alone. No. No. All right.

[Ash]

Would you rather be locked in Waverly Hills with a spirit that mimics your best friend's voice, so probably each other's voices, or be chased through the woods by a skinwalker holding a KFC bucket and calling you dinner?

[Sam]

Oh, my God. That's so sadistic. Would you rather. Oh, my God.

[Colby]

Okay, well, how did you come up with that? You know what's insane? This. This sounds crazy.

[Sam]

So many KFC buckets literally all the time at paranormal locations.

[Colby]

Well, not kfc, like, specifically, but the. The doppelganger sort of voice mimicking has happened to us like two or three.

[Ash]

Times with each other's voices.

[Colby]

Yes. Yes. We were in for our elementary and it was late at night and we were done filming. Filming. I was like on the phone with my girlfriend and I could have sworn that Sam was like, yo, like three times, like, calling me because it was like, super late and like, voices echo in that, like, gym. So I thought he was just like, yo, get to bed. And so, like, I came in, I was just like, why were you calling me? And he was like, that was not me.

[Ash]

That's wild. I hate that a lot. I hate that.

[Elena]

The idea of mimic.

[Colby]

Yeah. So as much as I want, like a skinwalker with KFC to chase after me, that's hilarious. Areas. I'd probably do the mimic, cuz I've experienced.

[Ash]

Yeah, you've done it before.

[Sam]

The mimic is really scary. We've had that happen at the conjuring house before. Some other places as well, where we just hear each other's voices or like EVPs will sound like our voices sometimes, like we'll have on the spirit box. You know, like the things that, like the SS Method type of stuff. Like the. The voices that come through the radio sound like Us and each other.

[Elena]

And it's like, no way.

[Sam]

Super strange. Strange.

[Ash]

That's scary.

[Colby]

It was, like, a really scary time in the conjuring house that, like, we were sitting on a couch just doing research, and I forgot exactly what I said, but, like, I said a word, and it repeated it back to me. Like, it sounded like it was coming from, like, outside or whatever.

[Elena]

And.

[Colby]

And it happened on camera, by the way. So we have it all filmed. We posted everything, like, where I'm like, yo. And it's like, yo. Or something, like, back to me multiple times. And then I say it in the same. Same, like, amount of volume. I try it louder, I try it softer or whatever, and then the echo just stops.

[Sam]

But it's the same direction three or four times before. Stopped.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Like, it was, like, coming back multiple times. And later that same week, because we stayed a week at the conjuring house.

[Ash]

Damn.

[Sam]

I. I heard the same type of voice in the basement when I was alone. Colby was not even in the house, and I just heard, like, his voice, like, ring, and I was like, oh, what? Like, he's. He's back? No, he's out in the woods. It was insane.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

That's really scary.

[Elena]

Well, because they also feel, like, very dynamical because they're, like, trying to draw you in, and it's like, why?

[Sam]

Well, most people believe that, like, mimics are, like, evil spirits.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Yeah, for sure. I've had an experience in this house where I.

[Elena]

So weird.

[Ash]

I was in the bathroom, and I was walking out, and I saw Elena, like, in the doorway, and I went to say something to her, and then she was gone. And I came in here. Here. And she was sitting right there. She's always sitting right there. And I literally. I was like, were you just in the bathroom? And she was like, no. Like, you were just in the bathroom right here?

[Elena]

I was like.

[Ash]

And you stop. I was like, sheet white. I was like, no, I just saw you.

[Elena]

Oh, my God.

[Ash]

And Mikey's experienced it, too. Like, he's seen her in, like, a. Like, out of the corner of his eye or, like, in a doorway somewhere, and then she'll, like, appear. And he's like, were you just there? And she's like, no.

[Colby]

That's so scary.

[Sam]

Really terrifying.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

And I don't know why.

[Sam]

You've shown up everywhere.

[Elena]

I've been trying to figure it out.

[Sam]

You're in three places at once.

[Elena]

Yeah, I'm doing the most. Let's go. I'm like, damn.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

I don't know why it's scary. It's freak of the.

[Ash]

I mean, maybe in this case it's like residual energy or something. Because this is your house.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

So, I mean, it felt weird. So I don't know. I don't like.

[Colby]

It's just sinister that they'll disguise themselves as people you love or know, like trust, whatever. It's crazy.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

It's really scary.

[Elena]

I know. Because I've seen these like, videos. I know. Don't. I don't know which ones are true or not, but where they'll hear people like outside their door, like speaking like someone they know and being like, open the door, I'm outside.

[Sam]

There's a whole like, you know, series about that. I don't know what it's called.

[Elena]

I would never recover.

[Ash]

Yeah. The one that we saw in particular, and it was like the girl thought it was her mom.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah.

[Ash]

And then she. The like guttural noise that she makes. She like screams or something.

[Elena]

Yeah. Cuz I think she says is like, you're not my mom. And it starts to make this like horrible sound on the other side of the door that like ruined me.

[Ash]

My goosebumps had goosebumps. I want to pull it up later.

[Elena]

I know.

[Ash]

We'll have to show it to you.

[Colby]

So scary.

[Ash]

It was wild.

[Sam]

It does a video of this.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Oh.

[Colby]

Oh, my God.

[Sam]

Oh, my.

[Elena]

I know.

[Ash]

I hate it so much.

[Elena]

Isn't that.

[Ash]

Then she said she called her neighbor.

[Sam]

For help every time they really close.

[Elena]

Oh, I hate that so much. I hate it.

[Ash]

Yeah. Even if it's not real green. Great acting.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Colby]

I would not open that door.

[Ash]

I would jump out the window.

[Elena]

Probably house down. Yeah.

[Ash]

So scary.

[Elena]

I hate that.

[Ash]

So that's that disgusting. Yeah, it is disgusting.

[Elena]

It really is.

[Sam]

That's a burn your house type thing.

[Elena]

Yes. Yeah, that's over.

[Ash]

All right, so next. Would you rather. Yeah.

[Elena]

Would you. After that.

[Ash]

Anyway. Would you rather wake up every morning with a new crack cryptic symbol tattooed on your arm by ghosts or be cursed so that every mirror shows your future funeral?

[Sam]

Oh, God, that's so dark.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Every day you get a new tattoo.

[Elena]

Yeah, we. Who knows how big it is?

[Ash]

Every morning it's a cryptic symbol.

[Colby]

Whoa.

[Elena]

We gotta go.

[Sam]

Free tats.

[Elena]

It's true. Hopefully they're good artists.

[Sam]

Hopefully.

[Ash]

Yeah. That's the thing that would freak me out.

[Elena]

Yeah. What if they're shitty? Yeah.

[Sam]

I was gonna say, what's Horus? Like?

[Ash]

I have dreams all the time where I got like a horrible tattoo and I'm like, what do I do?

[Colby]

Imagine trying to explain that to your friends, though. Like, you wake up and you're just like, I swear, demons. They're like, okay. But seeing, like, your funeral, that's, like, so mentally messed up, you know?

[Sam]

You guys are sadistic.

[Ash]

You guys are up for this. I can see my funeral to be like, who came? Who's there?

[Sam]

You know what? Then if you saw it every day, you could see who your real friends are.

[Ash]

Yeah, that's actually kind of like a great tool.

[Elena]

If things change, you all of a sudden see somebody not there.

[Ash]

You can edit your funeral plans. Like, no. Everybody looks like, how about you wear this? True.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Sam]

This kind of looks a little lame. Let's get a DJ up in here. Yeah, something like that.

[Elena]

Oop, Get a better embalmer. I look like.

[Ash]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colby]

I just feel like a. Be, like a constant, like, reminder that you're going to die, like, eventually. And so it's like, just.

[Elena]

I mean, it's like a good perspective thing. So, like, you're, like, at a better live today. Well.

[Colby]

Or whatever. And you're just, like, having a great time. You look in the mirror and you're like.

[Elena]

And you're like.

[Colby]

Shots everybody. But, like, with the tattoo thing, you can become, like, an experiment in a way. I'm thinking business.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

And like, you could just be like, great. You could be like, hey, government, like, check this out.

[Elena]

Like.

[Colby]

Like, keep me in, like, a lab or whatever and watch what happens to me every single day.

[Ash]

You want to get the government involved.

[Colby]

That's great, too. That's. That is brave. That is a good point.

[Ash]

You want the government to lock you in a lab.

[Sam]

Yeah, I don't know about that. Then you'll never leave.

[Colby]

I just.

[Sam]

You run your own experiments. YouTube for views. Not the government.

[Elena]

Not the government.

[Ash]

Never the government.

[Colby]

If I could profit off of it on YouTube.

[Elena]

Yeah. Always be.

[Sam]

Always be closing. That's funny. Yeah.

[Ash]

All right, so you're going.

[Colby]

I think I'm going to do tattoo.

[Ash]

Tattoo.

[Sam]

I'm doing funeral. I think about my death all. All the time anyway.

[Ash]

Yeah, I'm. I'm doing funeral.

[Elena]

I mean, I love tattoos, but you.

[Ash]

Only see the same artist.

[Elena]

I know.

[Ash]

Not a demon.

[Elena]

That's true. He's not a demon. His name is Matt. He's not a demon.

[Colby]

All right, Matt.

[Elena]

Hey, Matt. Yeah, I would say the funeral, because I also always think about my own death, and I assume same. I'm one of those people that's like, you might die tomorrow. Like, do that thing I tell everybody else.

[Ash]

Eat that cupcake.

[Elena]

Eat that cupcake.

[Colby]

I guess you could avoid mirrors.

[Elena]

That's true.

[Colby]

Yeah, you could.

[Elena]

You could.

[Ash]

You'd run into them every day.

[Elena]

I don't look in mirrors a lot anyway.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Not like every time you go to, like.

[Elena]

It would be like a morning thing. Thing where I like, start my day being like, oh, mortality. And then it would just be like, I can avoid.

[Ash]

It would be kind of weird, like doing your makeup.

[Elena]

Oh, driving. You have to look in mirrors a lot. Driving.

[Ash]

I would actually. You see your.

[Sam]

Every time you're in the car, you're.

[Elena]

Like, oh, God, is this it?

[Ash]

Switch lanes or not the same or does.

[Colby]

Does cameras count too? Like, if you're looking at your phone, any reflection.

[Elena]

Probably.

[Ash]

I can't. I feel like we can't do any reflection. That's gonna.

[Elena]

We're going too crazy.

[Ash]

Yeah. I think your bathroom mirror.

[Colby]

Bathroom mirror.

[Elena]

Only. Bathroom.

[Sam]

Not the rear view mirror. Car.

[Ash]

If it's only dangerous.

[Colby]

Okay, then I'm switching my answer as well. I think I would just, like, come up with a routine like, get ready every day. Kind of like expect like, I'm going to see my funeral and then just. You would get used to it.

[Ash]

Yeah. You're going to be a part of.

[Elena]

Your mortality for a minute.

[Colby]

That's a good point.

[Elena]

Every day.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

There we go.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah. The tattoos, I feel like, could get wily.

[Ash]

I'm a control freak and I need to pick my own tattoo tattoos.

[Colby]

Oh, yeah.

[Elena]

And I feel bad going to Matt later and being like, I'm sorry, can.

[Sam]

You fix this one?

[Elena]

Yeah. Like so. Yeah. So we have two more. First one is, would you rather hear a demon whisper your name every night at 3:33am exactly? Or have a Victorian ghost lady follow you into every bathroom you enter?

[Colby]

Oh, my God.

[Ash]

Intrusive.

[Sam]

That is intrusive.

[Ash]

Both are pretty intrusive.

[Elena]

Honest.

[Colby]

Honestly, probably the Victorian lady.

[Ash]

Really? I did not expect that. Really?

[Colby]

I mean, I just feel like would. I'm thinking, like, long term here with, like, the demon. Well, first of all, can you wear headphones when you're sleeping and then kind of like, cancel it out?

[Elena]

Nah.

[Colby]

Okay. Does your wife or husband, like, hear?

[Ash]

Nah, they're fine.

[Colby]

It's just you.

[Elena]

So they don't. You're the one that has to live with it.

[Ash]

Yeah. It's your problem.

[Elena]

It's your problem.

[Sam]

Interrupted sleep or interrupted bathroom times.

[Colby]

So is she, like, watching you while you're doing your business?

[Elena]

I feel like she is.

[Colby]

She's just like.

[Elena]

She's not modest.

[Ash]

She's like, you should light A candle. She's like, what'd you eat?

[Colby]

You know, I mean, that's more of, like, her problem, you know? Like, that's my problem.

[Sam]

Well, the demon's really comfortable with her. Be like, yeah, I'll watch this one, bro.

[Ash]

Can you hand me some paper towels?

[Colby]

If she wasn't able to, like, communicate with anybody else, it's kind of like, how do you know that's not happening to you, like, right now?

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Like, that's your little thing.

[Colby]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Elena]

With her.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

I would share that moment with Victoria, and that would be her problem. And I would just feel, like, sucks for you.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Colby]

But then if I'm sleeping and there's something in my ear every single night that sucks for me.

[Ash]

I'm waking up every night.

[Elena]

Interrupted sleep.

[Ash]

I mean, I kind of agree.

[Sam]

Instead of scroll on tick tock, you're, like, talking to a ghost.

[Ash]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sam]

It's kind of cool.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Someone walks in and you're, like, talking.

[Elena]

To yourself, like, throwing ideas to her.

[Sam]

It's like, this guy.

[Ash]

Crazy. Shoot.

[Elena]

You know what? That does kind of sound nice.

[Ash]

I do. The ghost lady.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

I don't want to be.

[Elena]

Is ours a ghost lady or is it a ghost man?

[Ash]

No, ours is a ghost lady. The question was ghost lady.

[Elena]

Ghost lady.

[Ash]

Sure. Yeah, Totally.

[Elena]

Ghost man.

[Ash]

No, no. Throw that out of there.

[Elena]

Yeah, Ghost lady. I just feel like, all right, girl.

[Ash]

Hey, girl.

[Elena]

Yeah, let's talk about stuff.

[Ash]

I like that. I love it.

[Elena]

Yeah. That's an easy one. Because I don't want my name's whispered in the middle of the night by all the time children.

[Sam]

All the time.

[Ash]

You don't need to ask.

[Elena]

I don't need someone else. So the next one is. Would you rather get trapped in a haunted mirror dimension with a ghost version of yourself? Whoa.

[Sam]

A haunted mirror dimension or.

[Colby]

That's good.

[Elena]

Have a poltergeist that only in, like, forever. That only communicates with you by throwing tacos at your head.

[Sam]

That's awesome.

[Ash]

Free tacos.

[Colby]

Oh, God.

[Ash]

Right?

[Colby]

I feel like just wear a helmet everywhere.

[Ash]

Just try to catch.

[Colby]

Thank you.

[Sam]

Imagine how viral that is. If, like. Yeah, four or five times throughout every YouTube video, we just get a tacos. Just quiet. It's like, where did that come from?

[Colby]

Is it like hard shell or soft?

[Ash]

You can choose. Whatever your preference, I think you would.

[Elena]

Be able to talk to them.

[Sam]

Beefy five layer burrito, bro.

[Colby]

Oh, for that. Yeah. Yeah. But if it's like, hard shell, I feel like that could, like, poke out your eyes.

[Ash]

Yeah, that could get. Yeah.

[Elena]

That could get dangerous. Get ugly and messy.

[Sam]

I feel it's all looking messy.

[Colby]

Yeah. I would do the, like a soft shell, beefy five layer burrito from Taco Bell.

[Sam]

Oh, damn.

[Ash]

I want a little choosy here.

[Elena]

Shit.

[Colby]

Whatever fight about this.

[Elena]

I'm like, are we ordering that after?

[Ash]

Yeah, we are now. We're getting Taco Bell today and it.

[Sam]

Will be thrown right at our face.

[Elena]

I would definitely choose the tacos.

[Ash]

Oh, yeah.

[Elena]

I love tacos.

[Ash]

Big time. I'm a. Yeah, big taco people.

[Elena]

So I'd be like, talk to me all the time. Let's go.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Colby]

Violently.

[Elena]

I know. Unless he's like humming it at your head.

[Ash]

I know. What if it ruined tacos for you? Could ruin tacos for you. That could. That could. What's the other option?

[Elena]

Trapped in a mirror dimension with your ghost self.

[Colby]

For how long?

[Elena]

For a week. A week? It's not that bad, I think. Continue.

[Colby]

I feel like Mr. Beast was somehow like, in the future come up with that challenge. You're getting trapped here for a week.

[Elena]

You're inside the mirror with a ghost version of yourself.

[Ash]

I might do a ghost version of myself. I feel like you could learn a lot in that instance.

[Elena]

That's true.

[Ash]

And then I could continue just having tacos when I want to.

[Elena]

At your leisure.

[Ash]

At my leisure.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

A ghost version of yourself could be cool.

[Colby]

Yeah.

[Ash]

Just know yourself.

[Elena]

What if they're an.

[Ash]

Well, they're you. So.

[Elena]

And then you're stuck there for a week.

[Ash]

Are you an asshole?

[Elena]

That looks like you sometimes.

[Ash]

Not to yourself.

[Sam]

They're changing it. The mirror version of yourself is the version.

[Elena]

It's the version. It's like the bad part of you.

[Sam]

Oh, you're living with the bad part of you.

[Colby]

Oh, that's scary.

[Sam]

You have to come to terms with the negative side.

[Elena]

That's a lot.

[Colby]

Maybe that's like a therapy session, though.

[Ash]

That is kind of like therapy. I feel I'm sticking with that. I think that that'd be a cool experience.

[Elena]

It might come out a better person.

[Colby]

Yeah. We don't know how hard the tacos are hurting your face.

[Elena]

We don't know.

[Ash]

And we love tacos, so we don't want them ruined.

[Elena]

And you don't know when they like materialize in the air. Like if they just materialize as they're coming at you. It's time to stop.

[Ash]

I don't eat in my bed, so I don't want tacos on my bed.

[Sam]

Oh, I don't want that.

[Elena]

That's very true.

[Sam]

Yeah, you're driving. You just get smacked in the head.

[Ash]

That's dangerous.

[Elena]

Trying to take your everything shower. Oh, you have, like, the music on, and everything's nice and calm, and then, like, a giant burrito hits you in the face.

[Ash]

You just start all over right after.

[Sam]

You finish your shower, and then boom. And you have to go back in the shower, and you're like, God, just washed your hair.

[Elena]

And you get, like, queso in your hair.

[Sam]

Oh, no.

[Ash]

Oh, that'd be awful. Or, like, right after you blow dry your hair. No, no, no.

[Elena]

Mirror dimension. I'm facing the shitty version of myself.

[Ash]

So are we all doing shitty version of ourselves?

[Sam]

Yeah, I was going to go for the tacos.

[Ash]

You're still doing tacos even after all that?

[Sam]

I mean, come on.

[Elena]

I'll take another shower.

[Colby]

It's like, you may kiss the bride. Like, taco in the face.

[Sam]

Taco in the face.

[Ash]

You just start getting to the point where you're, like, catching them in your mouth.

[Sam]

I know. Got to get them gains.

[Ash]

I like it.

[Elena]

So we got three bear dimensions, one.

[Sam]

Taco, one taco demon minute.

[Ash]

All right, all right.

[Elena]

We'll just take your tacos.

[Sam]

True.

[Ash]

You know, give us your perfect.

[Sam]

I could feed the homeless.

[Elena]

We made this.

[Sam]

Here we go.

[Elena]

Tacos wherever you go.

[Ash]

That's great. All right.

[Elena]

I think we learned a lot.

[Ash]

I think we did.

[Colby]

We definitely did.

[Elena]

We.

[Ash]

We know ourselves much better than each other.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

So let's do the two truths and a lie Ghost edition. You guys are going to tell us two truths and a lie.

[Colby]

Okay, so I'm just going to be looking straight here, so you can't look at my eyes.

[Elena]

I know. I'm not ready.

[Ash]

Poker face.

[Sam]

Yeah, seriously.

[Colby]

One time I went to the Vilisa Axe murder house, and during, like, one of the last investigations, there was a spirit that tugged on the back of my crew neck that I was wearing, and it scared me and made my eyes tear up instantly.

[Ash]

Recently.

[Colby]

And, yeah, it was one of the only times that's ever happened where I've. I've felt, like, a physical sort of touch like that. Another time, I was in a spot called Bowers Mansion. It was in Texas, and I was speaking out to a ghost named Bernard, who was known specifically to slam doors. And after I asked him to directly slam a door, it happened in front of my face. And I instantly also broke out into tears, but this time, down, like, my face face. And it was one of the most traumatic jump scares I've had in my entire life.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Ash]

They're all Convincing. So far, no.

[Elena]

Holy.

[Colby]

And then when I stayed in a week in the. The conjuring house, I was forced to stay in the basement on the last night and was uncontrollably sobbing the entire time until Sam was able to get.

[Elena]

Me out at 5:00am oh, that's so terrifying. And real. And they all involve crying.

[Colby]

Yep.

[Sam]

He cries a lot.

[Ash]

What's your. What's your astrological side? Oh, Capricorn. That's weird that you cry a lot.

[Colby]

I don't cry that much.

[Sam]

Guys, extreme options.

[Colby]

Okay. All right.

[Elena]

It takes, like, ghostly intervention for you to cry.

[Colby]

Exactly.

[Ash]

That makes sense.

[Elena]

That's what it would take for me to cry. For sure.

[Ash]

I think the last one is a lie, because I think that was Sam.

[Colby]

Okay. Would.

[Elena]

Do you know something? Are you working off of intel?

[Ash]

No, I'm not actually working off of intel, but I'm working off, like, a possible memory of something I saw online.

[Elena]

Oh, okay.

[Ash]

I didn't see any full videos or anything, but I remember when you guys were teasing it.

[Elena]

I don't know.

[Ash]

Wait a second.

[Elena]

I'm not gonna pick that. Just to be different.

[Ash]

Okay.

[Elena]

I'm going with Bernard.

[Colby]

Okay.

[Elena]

The second one.

[Ash]

Tell us.

[Colby]

You were right.

[Ash]

Yes.

[Sam]

It was you, right?

[Colby]

I was not in the. I went to the basement one time, but I didn't cry. I don't cry every single time.

[Sam]

That was me in the basement crying till 5am Holy.

[Ash]

Wasn't it something where, like, you saw your grandma, right?

[Elena]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Sam]

It's crazy.

[Ash]

In the basement.

[Sam]

It was. That was the reason why I was crying. But that was earlier in the week. I did go in the basement till 5am and it was really, really terrifying.

[Ash]

And you cried because it was so scary.

[Colby]

Not in the basement. I just made that part up.

[Elena]

Oh.

[Colby]

But he. Yeah, he had an experience in the living room.

[Sam]

The basement, in the middle of the night till 5am was where I heard Colby's voice, the mimic that I was kind of describing earlier in the podcast where he was outside, actually, and, like, in the forest. And I was like, holy. Hearing his voice, like, call out when I was, like, alone. It was really, really creepy.

[Elena]

Oh, my God. We haven't been to the conjuring house yet. I really want to go.

[Ash]

I want to go so badly.

[Colby]

You guys have to go.

[Elena]

I was supposed to go.

[Ash]

I know.

[Elena]

My husband actually got me, like, he knows me very well. For our anniversary, he was like, we're gonna go on a tour of the conjuring house. And there was, like, supposed to be a medium there. And it was gonna be really. And I think he got sick before and we weren't able to go.

[Ash]

He got like vertigo too.

[Elena]

He gets vertigo and it like knocks him down for like a week.

[Colby]

Oh, damn.

[Elena]

It was weird. But he go that day.

[Colby]

So you guys gotta go.

[Elena]

I know, cuz it's not far from us.

[Sam]

Yeah. The conjuring house is actually going up for auction on this Halloween.

[Elena]

Really?

[Sam]

Yeah. The last owner is. Yeah. No longer like a part of it. And so they're like literally selling the house.

[Elena]

Oh, my God.

[Ash]

So did. Wait, did Matt R. Not buy it?

[Colby]

It's up for auction. He wants to. He's going to be the bidding, I'm sure.

[Elena]

Okay, I see.

[Sam]

Yeah. Matt R. Just recently bought the Annabelle doll.

[Colby]

Yeah. And the Warm Museum.

[Sam]

The Warm Museum. So that's like a different thing.

[Ash]

But this kind of Annabelle was missing.

[Colby]

The same. The same Annabelle. They. They took on like tour and then. Yeah, allegedly it went like, missing.

[Elena]

Yeah. But then it was.

[Ash]

But then they got her.

[Colby]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sam]

It was all kind of like a hoax, though. Like the fact that she went missing, it was just kind of blown out of proportion. She went on tour and then, like, because she wasn't at the house, people thought she was missing. Well, she wasn't missing. She was on tour.

[Ash]

She was busy.

[Sam]

She went to like, New Orleans. Like, people were just blowing.

[Colby]

Was filming for.

[Ash]

Yes, she was that possessed doll.

[Sam]

You know, she used to be cam down the hallway. And we got a great footage.

[Elena]

Oh, we have to go.

[Ash]

I know.

[Elena]

Serena and Corinne have gone there.

[Ash]

Yeah, they had crazy stuff.

[Elena]

They had crazy stuff. They did like the Estes method there. They got some like, really crazy things.

[Ash]

Yeah, you guys have to check out two girls, one ghost. If you would like them. They're like super spooky paranormal stuff. Sounds good, Estes. Yeah, we love them.

[Elena]

All right. For sure.

[Colby]

Yeah, we'll do.

[Ash]

All right. Sam, you're up.

[Sam]

Okay, I got it. So I'm also going to look at the. The coffee.

[Elena]

Make sure.

[Sam]

All right. There's been a paranormal story of a ghost who caused a disease that actually ended up becoming a virus that a lot of people got. There has been a confirmed death by a ghost, and there has been an Illuminati cave that turned to be haunted.

[Elena]

All right.

[Ash]

We know the middle one is true because we covered that case.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

But we still have two to work with. What was the first one? It was the virus. The virus. And then an Illuminati cave that was haunted.

[Elena]

I'm going with Illuminati cave.

[Ash]

I am, too, because that's like. I feel like that's a conspiracy.

[Sam]

It's the first one.

[Ash]

No, no. Ghost virus.

[Elena]

I almost went.

[Sam]

No, no.

[Ash]

So there really is an Illuminati cave.

[Colby]

Yeah. It's called Hellfire Caves. In England.

[Sam]

In England. Yeah. It's basically the Illuminati of.

[Elena]

We did cover that.

[Sam]

This thing.

[Colby]

You guys know that frankly, going down there, doing stuff.

[Elena]

Damn. Yeah, I covered it on. Because it's like the Hellfire Club.

[Sam]

Hellfire Club.

[Ash]

Oh. Oh, I do remember that now. Damn it.

[Sam]

They did a bunch of stuff down in there and then ended up becoming really haunted.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

What are the odds? You picked two cases we covered, and.

[Elena]

I didn't remember the one that I covered.

[Ash]

I mean, that's a lot of cases in our lives.

[Elena]

It was.

[Sam]

Forgot you guys were the experts.

[Ash]

I guess not.

[Elena]

Oh. My gut was saying the virus too, and I didn't go with it. Ah, go with your gut. I felt unbelievable. Yeah.

[Ash]

Good job.

[Elena]

Thank you. Well done. Let's go. Well done.

[Ash]

All right, well, we're gonna move on to recording our next episode.

[Elena]

Yeah. If this. If there's anything you guys want to plug.

[Ash]

Yes, that. Plug away.

[Colby]

Hell Week's coming in October.

[Sam]

Our biggest series of the year launches on October 5th.

[Elena]

O.

[Colby]

And the finale. This is going to be an exclusive for your guys's podcast. Okay, so for how Halloween finale. It just has to do with a really famous movie.

[Sam]

I think it's the most famous horror movie that's happened recently.

[Colby]

Like, in the past month. The most famous horror movie we were able to get to go investigate.

[Sam]

Everyone at home will know. But maybe you guys aren't horror movie fans.

[Elena]

We are.

[Ash]

We have a horror movie.

[Elena]

Know.

[Ash]

There's been so many.

[Elena]

I know. I'm trying to think of.

[Ash]

Will you tell us off camera?

[Colby]

Yeah, of course.

[Elena]

Of course. Okay. I'm probably gonna feel stupid afterwards.

[Ash]

No, I will, too.

[Elena]

Oh.

[Sam]

It has recently become the number one horror movie to hit any box office.

[Ash]

Damn.

[Sam]

So that's pretty cool. Anyway.

[Elena]

Oh, I'm excited.

[Ash]

That's so cool.

[Colby]

Halloween.

[Ash]

Yeah. Thank you for giving that.

[Elena]

Check that out.

[Ash]

Exclusive on Morbid. I know.

[Elena]

Of course.

[Ash]

I'm so excited. Anything else you guys want to plug?

[Sam]

Thanks for having us on. We love hanging out with you guys.

[Elena]

Thanks for coming.

[Ash]

So thank you guys so much for listening.

[Elena]

Listening.

[Ash]

We hope you keep listening, and we.

[Elena]

Hope you keep it weird.

[Ash]

But not so weird that you don't go check out Sam and Colby's YouTube videos.

[Sam]

Thank you.

[Ash]

Thank you.

[Sam]

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[Elena]

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[Sam]

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