Episode 666 - Listener Tales of the Beast

Summary

Morbid Network | Wondery Podcast Title: Morbid
Episode: 666 - Listener Tales of the Beast
Release Date: April 24, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 666 titled "Listener Tales of the Beast," hosts Elena and Ash delve into spine-chilling listener-submitted stories that blur the lines between sleep paralysis, demonic encounters, and supernatural phenomena. Dressed as devils to match the episode's satanic theme, the hosts set the stage for a night of eerie tales, interspersed with their trademark humor and camaraderie.

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Listener Tale 1: Sleep Paralysis and the Beast in a Haunted Home

Timestamp: [07:06] – [15:15]

Narrator: Elena

Summary: Elena shares a harrowing experience from her life living in a 121-year-old schoolhouse-turned-family home in North Dakota. During a particularly terrifying episode of sleep paralysis, Elena felt an overwhelming presence in her bedroom. Despite initially believing her toddler daughter was invading their bed, Elena soon realized the presence was something far more sinister.

Key Points:

• House Background: A sprawling, historic home with modern decor. Elena mentions an attic that gives her an uneasy feeling, though no paranormal activities have been evident.

• The Incident: While sleeping on her stomach, Elena experiences what feels like her daughter crawling into bed. However, she senses something amiss as the entity begins to touch her head with an unsettling calmness.

• The Encounter: The presence speaks in a childlike voice, saying, “Good morning, Cody. Turn your head.” Overcome with dread, Elena resists turning, leading the entity to tighten its grip.

• Aftermath: Elena wakes up drenched in sweat, unable to sleep for weeks. She adopts measures to prevent future episodes, such as maintaining physical contact with her husband and having their cat sleep on her.

Notable Quotes:

• Elena: “As I lay there in fear, this thing started petting my fucking head.” [11:01]
• Ash: “I would have fist fought this thing.” [12:22]
• Elena: “It was like somebody shut off my eyeballs. Out of service. No connection available.” [15:58]

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Listener Tale 2: EVP from Dad and a Ghost with a Shadow

Timestamp: [26:11] – [35:58]

Narrator: Bergen

Summary: Bergen recounts his encounter with his deceased father through an EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) recording and an unsettling experience with a shadowy apparition. After his father passed away, Bergen struggled with grief and skepticism until he finally received an EVP response that brought him solace.

Key Points:

• The EVP Experience: Two years after his father's death, Bergen uses an EVP recorder in a quiet bungalow. After numerous failed attempts, he hears a clear and comforting “Hi” from his father, which profoundly impacts him.

• The Shadowy Ghost: During a visit to the Waverly Hills Sanatorium, Bergen and his sister Bailey participate in a night tour. They witness unexplained movements of a ball and capture a photo of a ghostly figure with a discernible shadow, intensifying the paranormal atmosphere.

Notable Quotes:

• Bergen: “I said, can you say hello, dad? And then the most beautiful moment of my life. I heard a clear, calm, totally not from this plane of existence. Hi.” [28:48]
• Ash: “That was one of the clearest EVPs I've ever heard.” [35:52]
• Elena: “We spoke for him.” [50:51]

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Listener Tale 3: Mimic in the Sister-in-Law’s House

Timestamp: [21:32] – [24:49]

Narrator: Elena

Summary: Elena narrates her sister-in-law’s terrifying experience with a mimic—an entity that imitates human voices—to haunt her new home. Persistent strange occurrences compel her sister-in-law to cleanse the house using sage, ultimately dispelling the malevolent presence.

Key Points:

• New Home Issues: Shortly after moving into their first home, Elena's sister-in-law begins hearing her husband and daughter calling out from empty rooms, only to find them asleep or absent.

• The Final Incident: On a Saturday when the sister-in-law is at work, a door slams shut with her daughter claiming "Mommy did that," despite her being elsewhere. The most chilling moment occurs when sages fail to burn properly until her husband successfully completes the ritual, leading to the entity’s departure.

• Resolution: Post-cleansing, the house remains quiet, and the mimic's presence ceases, providing relief to the family.

Notable Quotes:

• Elena: “A mimic or a demon mimicking a child's voice to me is so chilling. That is just demonic and diabolical in a way I can't describe.” [22:27]
• Ash: “You have to burn that.” [22:15]
• Elena: “Her voice has titties. Yes. It's hilarious.” [35:15]

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Listener Interaction: Communicating with Nicholas

Timestamp: [51:12] – [71:08]

Narrator: Ash and Elena

Summary: Throughout the episode, Ash and Elena engage in a playful yet spooky interaction with a supposed spirit named Nicholas. They attempt to communicate with him, leading to eerie moments that add to the episode's haunted ambiance.

Key Points:

• Attempted Communication: The hosts respond to unprompted messages from Nicholas, creating moments of tension and laughter.

• Shared Experiences: Ash and Elena share personal supernatural experiences, intertwining listener tales with their own encounters.

• Final Interactions: The interaction concludes with Ash and Elena humorously addressing Nicholas, reinforcing the episode's theme of maintaining a balance between fear and fun.

Notable Quotes:

• Ash: “If you like morbid, you can listen early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus...” [71:08]
• Elena: “He will touch you.” [69:26]

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Conclusion

Episode 666 of Morbid transports listeners into a realm where sleep paralysis meets demonic encounters, EVP communications bridge the earthly and the spiritual, and mimics sow seeds of doubt in the safety of one's home. Through detailed listener submissions and the hosts' engaging narratives, the episode offers a captivating exploration of the unknown, all while maintaining the show's signature blend of horror and humor.

Notable Closing Quote:

• Elena: “You wonderful humans, Ash and Alina, for bringing the stories to life in the most engaging way possible. Thank you.” [62:36]

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Key Takeaways:

• Sleep Paralysis: Explored as both a psychological phenomenon and a potential gateway for supernatural encounters.

• EVP and Ghost Photography: Highlighted as methods for connecting with the deceased and capturing inexplicable evidence.

• Purging Negative Entities: Demonstrated through the sister-in-law’s use of sage to cleanse her home from a malevolent mimic.

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Recommendations for New Listeners: If you’re fascinated by true crime, creepy histories, and all things spooky, Morbid Network | Wondery offers a compelling mix of research and comedy. Episode 666 is a must-listen for those intrigued by the thin veil between reality and the supernatural.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Elena [11:01]: “As I lay there in fear, this thing started petting my fucking head.”
• Ash [12:22]: “I would have fist fought this thing.”
• Bergen [28:48]: “Hi.”
• Ash [35:52]: “That was one of the clearest EVPs I've ever heard.”
• Elena [22:27]: “A mimic or a demon mimicking a child's voice to me is so chilling. That is just demonic and diabolical in a way I can't describe.”
• Elena [62:36]: “You wonderful humans, Ash and Alina, for bringing the stories to life in the most engaging way possible. Thank you.”

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Stay tuned for more eerie tales and chilling narratives in future episodes of Morbid. Until then, keep it weird but not too weird!

Transcript

[Elena]

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[Ash]

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[Elena]

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[Ash]

Hey weirdos, I'm Ash.

[Elena]

And I'm Elena and this is Morbid See, and this is why I wouldn't do that.

[Ash]

I'm sick and I committed.

[Elena]

But also, like I said, I don't know if it's already on camera, but I think I'm scarier than any voice I could conjure, so.

[Ash]

Well, welcome to episode 666.

[Elena]

Yay.

[Ash]

In case you couldn't tell, we're the devil.

[Elena]

Yeah. It's the satanic episode. Yeah.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

It's the episode of the beast.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

And that's exciting.

[Ash]

I really like the difference between our renditions of devils.

[Elena]

I also love that we didn't really.

[Ash]

Like, talk about it.

[Elena]

Yeah. We didn't confer with each other about what we were gonna do.

[Ash]

We just said, like, dress up like the devil.

[Elena]

And then Ash walked into the room and said. And I was like, yep.

[Ash]

I walked into the room and I said, the devil is alive.

[Elena]

She did. Can confirm.

[Ash]

And then she walked in the room with blood dripping down her face. And I said, that's about right.

[Elena]

We said, this works.

[Ash]

I said, that's my sister.

[Elena]

Yeah. We were gonna do a hot priest, but we thought this would be more fun.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

So. Because I saw some people be like, come on, do Aubrey. We thought this would be more fun. Don't worry. We have something else for the next one, though. That's gonna be fun, too.

[Ash]

I already have all my stuff for that too.

[Elena]

Me too.

[Ash]

Yeah, we have the same rosary. It's true.

[Elena]

This is part of that next costume. Just saying.

[Ash]

Well, it's listener tales, episode 666, and it's brought to you by you, for you, from youm, and all about you.

[Elena]

And we're gonna be doing, like, demonic tales.

[Ash]

Diamonds.

[Elena]

Diamonds.

[Ash]

Diamonds.

[Elena]

We're gonna be doing diamonds.

[Ash]

Let's do it. Are you going first or am I?

[Elena]

I'll go first. All right.

[Ash]

I'll close my computer. Actually, you know what? I'm gonna leave it open because gloves. And then I have to, like, type.

[Elena]

And I didn't put on my gloves.

[Ash]

Put on your stupid gloves.

[Elena]

I need to put on my gloves.

[Ash]

And we're back.

[Elena]

I have my gloves.

[Ash]

Elena has her gloves.

[Elena]

I have my gloves.

[Ash]

I like those.

[Elena]

Right?

[Ash]

Are you just gonna wear those in life now?

[Elena]

Yeah. Most of this I'm just gonna wear again.

[Ash]

I feel like that could be, like, very aesthetic as a noun, aesthetic for the Ghost concert.

[Elena]

Oh.

[Ash]

With your jacket that I got you.

[Elena]

Oh, I should wear these for the Ghost concert. Good call.

[Ash]

You're welcome.

[Elena]

So where am I starting?

[Ash]

At the beginning.

[Elena]

At the beginning is a great place to start. Let's Go with demon, sleep paralysis mimic. It's crazy out here.

[Ash]

It is crazy out here.

[Elena]

Hey ladies. I've attached to 14 points double space puttifer for your reading pleasure. I have three stories. Two about sleep paralysis. Maybe one is a demon and one about a mimic.

[Ash]

Mimics scare the shit out of me.

[Elena]

Mimics actually scare the shit out of me as well.

[Ash]

Yeah, because you have one.

[Elena]

Yeah. Oh, I do. You're right. Shit.

[Ash]

I know.

[Elena]

Shit. All right. Hi y'all. My name is Cody. Feel free to use it. Hi, Cody.

[Ash]

Hi Cody. I was about to say Frika Fricka Slim Shady.

[Elena]

There you go. I like that.

[Ash]

Frika Fricka Cody. Cody.

[Elena]

I love you guys so much. I love you, Cody. I love you.

[Ash]

I love you.

[Elena]

I started listening at the beginning of 2024 and have since caught up and am re listening to old episodes. That's actually incredibly impressive.

[Ash]

That is impressive. That's wild.

[Elena]

Yeah. It's currently April 2025. For reference, I broke my arm last March and was on leave for three months. So I had plan plenty of free time to listen to you guys. So thanks for keeping me company during that incredibly long recovery period.

[Ash]

You betcha.

[Elena]

I also listen to you all during. All day, during work, on my way to and from work and most times while I'm making dinner. It never fails. Whenever my husband comes into the kitchen, you happen to be talking about something wildly disturbing. And he questions my sanity for listening to such things with enjoyment.

[Ash]

That happens a lot.

[Elena]

I've even got my 13 year old stepson and 10 year old nephew into you guys Mostly. They love listener tales and request it whenever we get in the vehicle. Keep being your awesome selves.

[Ash]

Thank you.

[Elena]

We will. P.S. elena, I read the Butcher and the Wren in two days. It was so good. Thank you. That's amazing. I'm currently waiting for the second one to be delivered so I can read that one. Boom. Ash, you in the earlier episodes remind me so much of myself when I was also in my early 20s. I think we're close to the same age. I just turned 30 on St. Patty's Day, 2025.

[Ash]

Yep.

[Elena]

You ladies are the best. Never change. You're fucking the best.

[Ash]

You're really nice.

[Elena]

Okay, onto the story. Now I have a couple of stories to tell. The first one being the time I had sleep paralysis or maybe a bad nightmare or maybe a real diamond. You decide. My husband's sleep paralysis story and my sister in law's mimic story. So hold onto your butts because these are crazy. I currently live in my Childhood home in North Dakota with my husband and two children. It is 121-year-old schoolhouse in the country.

[Ash]

Oh, that's cool and creepy.

[Elena]

I'm already for this. I like it now. I've lived here almost my entire 30 years of being alive. And while I've had some spooky dreams and felt uncomfortable in certain rooms, mainly in the finished attic, nothing real crazy has happened here paranormal wise. My friends always told me in high school they were sure it was haunted, but I think they just thought that due to the age and the fact that it was an old school fun fact. My piano teacher from middle high school actually taught here when it was a school. My personal feeling is I have lived here this long and nothing bad has happened. So if there are ghosts here, they must be nice.

[Ash]

Yeah. There you go.

[Elena]

The primary bedroom is currently in the basement. While basements often get a bad rep, I've never felt uncomfortable down there unless I just finished watching a scary movie in bed and have to get up to pee.

[Ash]

I feel uncomfortable everywhere if I just watched a scary movie and I have to get up and pee.

[Elena]

Same now. Even though the house is 121 years old, it's very modern appearing as far as decor and whatnot. Anyway, let me set the scene. I slept with my side of the bed closest to the door and typically I slept on my stomach with my head facing away from the door.

[Ash]

How do people do that? Do you sleep on your stomach?

[Elena]

No, I'm a side sleeper sometimes a back sleeper. Me too. At this time, roughly two years ago, we had my almost three year old daughter in our room, in our own bed. In her own bed, probably about 20ft from our bed. It's a very spacious room. As most children do, they often scared the shit out of me in the middle of the night by tapping me lightly. I think we just had a daemon.

[Ash]

By the way, I heard that we're.

[Elena]

Talking about tapping and something tapped on the door.

[Ash]

Or is it John? I think it's.

[Elena]

Well, it's John or it's a demon. Okay.

[Ash]

It's a jamin.

[Elena]

It's a jamin. It's a don or a jamin.

[Ash]

I like Jamie.

[Elena]

I like jamin. All right. That's what it is. It's a jamin. All right. So as most children do, she often scared the out of me in the middle of the night by tapping me lightly or just staring at me until I turned over and saw her because she wanted to crawl into bed with us.

[Ash]

Your kids love to do that when they sleep over. My house, they don't wake me up, Actually, no, they used to. So when it was the two oldest that would come sleep over, they'd be like. Now they send the youngest in, and she just stares at me until I wake up.

[Elena]

Yep. She. The youngest will come up to me in the middle of the night. If she has, like a bad dream or something, she always comes to my side of the bed. No matter what, they come to mama's side of the bed. It's just always it. Like John is the first line of defense, but somehow they just go, right.

[Ash]

Same with Drew.

[Elena]

Yeah, always so. And she just gets right in my face and goes, mama, Mama. Until I wake up. And I'm like.

[Ash]

She's like, right there.

[Elena]

It's so scary.

[Ash]

Like, hi. Yeah, last time they slept over, I woke up and they were just like, boom.

[Elena]

Yeah, they are little diamonds.

[Ash]

Hey, girl.

[Elena]

They also, when they come downstairs, they come. They creep downstairs. Like if they come down to, like, tell us they need water or something like that or a bad dream, and they'll creep around the corner and always just pop their head a little bit out so we don't hear them coming. And then I just hear mama and it's like. Like every single time, I'm like, you have taken years off of my life, girl.

[Ash]

That's what they're here for.

[Elena]

But damn. All right, so that's what. That's what this child's doing. So she wanted to crawl in bed with us. This particular night was no different. I could hear the little footsteps walking towards me like they did most nights. But then I realized she was already in my bed, so those footsteps couldn't be her.

[Ash]

That's upsetting.

[Elena]

I don't like that.

[Ash]

I don't like that at all. I don't like that.

[Elena]

I got an overwhelming sense of dread and chose not to turn my head as I was not about to face whatever the fuck just shuffled its spooky ass over to me.

[Ash]

Yeah, I can't say I blame you.

[Elena]

As I lay there in fear, this thing started petting my fucking head.

[Ash]

No. All I have to say is blinks.

[Elena]

No, you read that right. This thing was running its hand down my hair like one would do to their child if they were resting their head on you.

[Ash]

Did you feel calm or really upset?

[Elena]

I don't like this at all. Then it started talking. Then it started talking, but in a childlike voice that sounded just like my daughter.

[Ash]

Oh, fuuu that.

[Elena]

Good morning, Cody. Turn your head. Cody. Look at me. Cody. Bitch, my ass said, hell Fucking no, buddy. These eyes may as well not even be in here because I will not be looking at that shit. I then felt it tighten its hand around my head. Not hard, but just grabbing it instead of touching like before. And I swear to God, this thing tried to get me to turn my head towards it. I would have fist fault. So it literally was like grab the.

[Ash]

Head to like turn it crucifix to the eye. I would have literally fist fought this thing.

[Elena]

I hate this. So, like the. The visual of this is just nothing I want to experience.

[Ash]

That's always my biggest fear when we go to haunted houses. Because I walk through like this when I'm scared.

[Elena]

Oh, me too.

[Ash]

And then I'm like, oh, no. And you do the same thing. I think that would happen. Like I'd be scared and I would just pummel this thing.

[Elena]

No. 100%. I'm constantly like this in a haunted house. And I'm like. Every time something happens, like I'm just.

[Ash]

Luckily, we've never been kicked out.

[Elena]

No. Never hit a haunt worker.

[Ash]

Never.

[Elena]

Never. We. I've never done it.

[Ash]

No, neither have I.

[Elena]

And I never will. I just always am like, don't. Don't even touch haunted workers. Don't do that. They're great.

[Ash]

You'll have to leave.

[Elena]

We love haunt workers.

[Ash]

They don't touch you.

[Elena]

Yeah. They don't touch you. These are good people.

[Ash]

I'm not supposed to really.

[Elena]

No. So.

[Ash]

And that's an aside on haunt workers.

[Elena]

Be nice to your haunt workers. It's like halfway to Halloween a little bit. So I think it's like actually halfway to Halloween, which is a holiday in my mind. Is it? Yeah. Tick Tock told me it was. Yeah. I've been so. I've been getting all these tick tocks. I'm getting this halfway to Halloween or Summerween.

[Ash]

Yeah. It was a long night. Longer than it seems. Every single one.

[Elena]

I love it.

[Ash]

It's the best.

[Elena]

Oh, and I'm just like, oh, I am aching for haunted houses again.

[Ash]

Or the one that's like, yeah.

[Elena]

Oh my God, Yes.

[Ash]

I love that one.

[Elena]

I love it.

[Ash]

Sorry. I can't wait for the cookies. The little cookies, pumpkin and ghost cookies in my mugs. I have so many good Halloween mugs.

[Elena]

I just need haunted house and I need more haunted houses this year. It's just. It's a whole lot.

[Ash]

Every year we gotta up it.

[Elena]

Every year we gotta get more. So. Yeah. So she. She's having her head turned by this Damon.

[Ash]

No, thanks.

[Elena]

Thank God for good neck muscles because My head stayed right where it was. At that point it felt like whatever this was got on my back and my entire body. Cuz she's on her stomach, remember? My entire body felt like it was being held down and I was unable to move anything, not even my fingers.

[Ash]

Oh my God.

[Elena]

And then bam. I woke up drenched in sweat and breathing harder than I was when I gave birth. Room was silent, void of creepy unknown beings, and my husband and daughter were sleeping peacefully next to me. When I say I didn't sleep for weeks after this, I mean it.

[Ash]

Yeah, I would not sleep for forever.

[Elena]

I. I'd still never sleep. I had never experienced anything like this in my 28 years at the time of living and thank God I haven't experienced it since. I read that if you're touching someone while you, you're asleep, you're less likely to have sleep paralysis. I didn't know that.

[Ash]

I didn't know that either.

[Elena]

So every night since, I'm sure to be touching my husband, even if it's just his. My toe on his leg. We also have a cat who is 12 who sleeps on me every night. So I like to think that is also saving me from happening again. What do you guys think? Crazy sleep paralysis or demon who just wanted to fuck with me one time before descending into the depths of hell? Maybe it was just a wild nightmare. Whatever it was, I sure hope it's one. It's a one and done situation.

[Ash]

I feel like sleep paralysis is real to an extent.

[Elena]

I feel like there's a different there. I agree. I feel like, I think there's like a different. I can't describe what's what. I think sleep paralysis actually is. There's more to it.

[Ash]

To me, I think it's almost like. Not necessarily, but almost like a parallel, parallel universe because the things I see.

[Elena]

See when I have sleep paralysis and the things I feel are not. They feel like something's wrong, they're. Something's amiss.

[Ash]

Okay.

[Elena]

They're not.

[Ash]

All right, yeah, no, I get that. I've only had it like once or twice. Maybe I had it once and I remember it so vividly. Do you remember how old I was when me and my mom drove to North Carolina with that guy?

[Elena]

Oh yeah, you were young. Like six. Five or six.

[Ash]

Five or six.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

I remember that so distinctly. I got it in the car and I like felt like there was like a face in the window and then somebody like lifted me up by like my armpits. And that's like a weird fear that I have. Which is very funny.

[Elena]

Oh, it's cool. Well, it's unsettling.

[Ash]

I hate it. Yeah, that was one. And then I had another one when me and Drew were camping with his parents. But, like, glamping and like a camper, I woke up and I saw a woman standing at the end of the bed, and I, like, literally could not move. Like, when they say paralysis.

[Elena]

Oh, it's legit paralysis straight up.

[Ash]

And you want to scream, but you can't even scre right. Yeah, it's scary.

[Elena]

It's really scary.

[Ash]

It like in, like, that room.

[Elena]

Yeah, like the room. The room you're not in some weird dream version of your room.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Like, it is your room, however, was set up before you went to bed. That is what it looks like.

[Ash]

Which makes me feel like it's not a dream. Because whenever I dream, like, will you have a dream and you're like, oh, I'm in my house. But, like, it's not like in the dream, you know, you're in your house, but it's not your actual. Yeah.

[Elena]

Like, there's different things or it's warped somehow or.

[Ash]

But when you have sleep paralysis, it is.

[Elena]

Yeah, to a T. Oh. So what do we think? Do we think this is sleep paralysis? A demon? A nightmare?

[Ash]

I think sleep paralysis plus demon equals scary. Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah, I agree. I think it's a little mix of the two.

[Ash]

Yeah. But I again, like sleep paralysis. I think you went to, like, another place.

[Elena]

I think something happened in your room, but I don't know.

[Ash]

That's a good takeaway. You think something happened?

[Elena]

I think it. A situation occurred.

[Ash]

I think things went on.

[Elena]

I think something went down.

[Ash]

So.

[Elena]

So.

[Ash]

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[Elena]

The two characters voices.

[Ash]

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[Elena]

The next story is about my husband and his couple episodes of sleep paralysis in this house. This was earlier in our relationship, probably around 2016, and our room was upstairs in the room that was previously mine in high school and is currently my stepson's room. Anyway, this room was one of those small rectangular openings or had one of those small rectangular openings in the ceiling that would lead to the attic. We never used this as my parents built stairs leading up to the attic when they finished it years prior. This creepy little door always freaked me the fuck out as a child and honestly still does as an adult. But that probably has something to do with the fact that it leads to the attic, which again is the one room in the house that makes me mad uncomfortable.

[Ash]

Oh no.

[Elena]

Anywho, after I told my husband my little story from above, he told me that years ago he thinks maybe he had sleep paralysis. Apparently there were a few different nights where he would wake up and he would see a creepy black figure just floating right under that creepy ass attic access.

[Ash]

Oh no.

[Elena]

And he couldn't move. Then he would wake up. I'm sorry sir, you didn't think to mention this when it happened? Why the are you so nonchalant about a black figure hanging out in the room paralyzing you? Although crazy, it's probably good he didn't tell me at the time as it would have freaked me the out. Maybe it's due to the fact that the house he grew up in with his mother and siblings was death haunted and he often saw the hat man in his closet at night.

[Ash]

Not the hat.

[Elena]

Not the hat man. No thank you.

[Ash]

He gets a bad rap, but he.

[Elena]

Should but like he kind of earns it. He does nothing to dispel that bad.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

Lastly, I wanted to add the story of the time my sister in law had a mimic in her house and how she got rid of it. She gave me permission to share this story. She and her husband recently closed on the first on their first home at the end of 2024.

[Ash]

Congratulations.

[Elena]

So exciting for them and their kids not to not too long after they moved in, weird shit started happening or no. First she thought she heard her husband say something from the other room. When she responded with what, he didn't respond back. So she went to the room where she thought he was and he was gaming with his headset on. When she asked what he said, he replied that he didn't say anything. Then the same thing happened, but with her daughter. She heard her daughter, 5 years old, call for mommy on the stairs.

[Ash]

Oh fuck. The fuck. No. No.

[Elena]

And so the kids room is in the basement. When my sister in law peeked her head downstairs, no one was there.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

So she went down to her daughter's room and her daughter was still passed out asleep, snoring.

[Ash]

I you gotta burn that.

[Elena]

Would me up.

[Ash]

You have to burn the entire.

[Elena]

I'm sorry if I hear the kids say my name and there's no kid to be found.

[Ash]

No kid voices saying anything that aren't related to actual kids. Get out of here.

[Elena]

In a mimic or a demon mimicking a child's voice to me is so chilling. That is just demonic and diabolical in a way I can't describe.

[Ash]

It's like echoing in my head now.

[Elena]

Yeah, I don't like it at all.

[Ash]

I hate it.

[Elena]

The third incident was when she was laying in bed and heard her daughter crying downstairs. She turned to her husband and asked what she was crying about, but he didn't hear anything. And again she checked and her daughter was sleeping. The last one she said she could likely chalk up to waking up from a dream of her daughter crying since her husband didn't hear anything. The final incident is the creepiest though. The job my sister in law had at the time was open on Saturdays, so they had to rotate working. This particular Saturday she was the one scheduled to work until like Noon I believe so her husband and kids were at home. Dad was in the living room, kids were at the dining room table eating. It was around 10:30, 11:00am at this point my sister in law got a call from her husband asking why she stopped by the house. She responded with I'm at work for another hour and a half. What are you talking about? He said the side door next to the kitchen slammed shut randomly. When he asked the kids who did that, her daughter said it was mommy. Oh she saw her mom leaving the house but it was not her mother. I hate that I have goosey goosey bumpies. That was the final straw. My sister in law decided to sage the house. She has a friend who was able to give her instructions and tell her exactly what to say as she saged. Her and her husband attempted to sage that night but every time she tried to light the sage it wouldn't stay lit. She tried the multiple times to no pro no avail. Let me add she is no stranger to a lighter so she knew what she was doing.

[Ash]

The way you just read I love her in law.

[Elena]

Her husband decided to give it a try and he had no issues. They saged the entire house and she said she instantly felt lighter and like whatever was following her was gone. Now she had never heard of a mimic before but because I'm one spooky bitch I immediately knew what it was and was like fuck that girl. Please make sure that shit is gone before I come over to you or send your daughter over to my house. Things have been quiet ever since. Thank goodness. Also let me insert her cute little side hustle. Oh it's called prettydelicates.com where she sells super cute glass cups.

[Ash]

Ooh I love her.

[Elena]

Check her out if you feel so inclined.

[Ash]

I do feel so inclined.

[Elena]

Feel inclined. I would literally die if you read this on the pod. Listener Tales are my absolute favorite episodes especially to re listen to once I once I catch up. Every week my family and I are going on a cruise leaving from New Jersey in June 2025 and are road tripping our way back way there and back from North Dakota. We plan to stay in Boston one of the nights and the following day my stepson and I will be doing the Lizzie Borden House tour.

[Ash]

Oh bitch.

[Elena]

Oh it's so good. So we are so excited. I'm so glad my stepson 13 is a spooky weirdo like me since my husband is kind of when it comes these things. Any who thanks for listening and keep it weird but not so weird that take it away. Ash.

[Ash]

Not so weird that that last tale period happens. Happens. Yeah.

[Elena]

Not so weird that that happens.

[Ash]

No, it's weird that that happens. Wait, before I forget, ask. See if you can get Amber as your tour guide. If she still works.

[Elena]

Yes. She's so good.

[Ash]

She was our last tour guide, and she was really funny and, like, took so much time in each room with us, telling us, like, way more than, like. We learned a lot the first time, too.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah.

[Ash]

But we learned even more with Amber as the.

[Elena]

She, like, hung out. She was so funny. She's h. Loved Amber.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Loved her. We were literally like, do you just want to stay with us all night?

[Ash]

And, like, she stayed. She stayed with us longer than she was going to. Yeah, initially.

[Elena]

Yeah, she was great.

[Ash]

I love it.

[Elena]

Love her. Thank you, Cody.

[Ash]

How was it? Those words. Crazy tales. All right, my next one is listener tales. An EVP from dad and a ghost with a shadow. Hey, weirdos. My name is Bergen. That's a pretty name. And I've got two true tales for you. One that will make you cry in a goodish way. And one that will make you delete your camera roll and save your house. Let's get into it. So, story number one. My dad's EVP recorder. And the spookiest high ever. When I was 16, my dad passed away. I'm sorry. He was the sweetest, funniest dude, and he loved watching Ghost Hunters. But here's the kicker.

[Elena]

Me too.

[Ash]

He refused to watch Paranormal Activity because he was convinced it would get him possessed. Like, hard pass. Absolutely not. I don't want demons in my house. Bergen kind of fear.

[Elena]

I love that he will watch Ghost Hunters, which is, like, actually, like, going to connect with real ghosts in real haunted locations. But Paranormal Activity, which is fictionalized.

[Ash]

Nope.

[Elena]

That's a no for me.

[Ash]

Actually, no, I've never seen any of those movies, and I don't care to.

[Elena]

Well, now we're gonna make you watch.

[Ash]

I know you're gonna scream. Yeah, I know you were going to.

[Elena]

But that's the next Scream series we're gonna do.

[Ash]

So I'll watch Ghost Hunters like, all day, every day. Paranormal, I told you. Actually scares me.

[Elena]

First and second Paranormal activity are gonna your world up.

[Ash]

Yeah, I don't want them to because I enjoy sleeping, like, so much.

[Elena]

That's. That's the next screen.

[Ash]

No, it's not.

[Elena]

You already picked it. No, we're doing it after this one.

[Ash]

I'll kill you.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

All right. Well, a few months before he died, he bought himself an evp recorder. He was so excited to try it out. And in true spooky timing fashion, the recorder didn't arrive until the day after he passed away. Yeah, let that one marinate.

[Elena]

Awful.

[Ash]

That sucks.

[Elena]

I'm sorry, that reminds me. What we should do while we're doing this is turn on Ghost Tube. Yes, it's episode 666. We might as well see. We also ghosties come.

[Ash]

But we only did that, like, once in this room with Sabrina.

[Elena]

Yeah, and I feel like this room is with Sabrina.

[Ash]

This room has some vibes.

[Elena]

Let's see.

[Ash]

My mom's sisters and I were all like, okay, universe, what does it mean? But grief hits hard, and none of us could bring ourselves to mess with it. Two years later, I was 18 and living in a tiny little bungalow behind my parents house, vibing with the ghosts and pretending to be an adult. One night I thought, screw it, let's do this. I busted out the EVP recorder and tried to contact my dad. I sat in the dark talking into this thing for like 30 minutes. Asking questions, begging for signs, crickets, nothing, Zip. I was about to give up, but then something in my gut said, try one more time and record it on your phone just in case. So I hit record and I said, can you say hello, dad? And then the most beautiful moment of my life. I heard a clear, calm, totally not from this plane of existence. Hi. Oh, I froze. Full body. Goosebumps. Instant tears. My soul left the chat.

[Elena]

I just felt full body. I think she sent us the.

[Ash]

She did. I'm gonna play it. To this day, every time I listen to that clip, I know it was him. It wasn't scary. It felt peaceful, comforting. Like he was saying, still here, kiddo. But also, what in the actual paranormal. I've attached the. The recording for you guys to listen to.

[Elena]

Oh, we gotta listen. Oh, my God.

[Ash]

Yes.

[Elena]

I didn't hear this. I didn't.

[Ash]

I haven't heard it yet either. I'm turning my computer up, like all the way, so it might be very loud.

[Elena]

What did that just say?

[Ash]

Nicholas.

[Elena]

What was your dad's name?

[Ash]

Dude, if your dad's name was Nicholas, I. I'll.

[Elena]

My.

[Ash]

I have straight up chills. Do you have upset to that voice?

[Elena]

I don't.

[Ash]

Is that like a choice you made? I'm not laughing at you, spirit.

[Elena]

I don't think it was.

[Ash]

That was genuinely terrible. All right, I'm gonna play this audio recording palette cleanser. That's horrifying. Sorry. My gloves.

[Elena]

Say hello, dad. Oh, my God. Oh, that was such a dad way of. I don't know why, but that was dad.

[Ash]

No, it was. It was.

[Elena]

That was just.

[Ash]

Hi.

[Elena]

That was like.

[Ash]

Hi. Oh, my God. I'm, like, covered.

[Elena]

Oh, my God. Can you see my. Yes.

[Ash]

Oh, I'm so happy that you have. Oh, my God. Wow. My chills are not going away right now.

[Elena]

I didn't think that was going to be as, like, I believed you, but I did not.

[Ash]

They're not always that clear.

[Elena]

Clear. That's crazy in that, like, comforting.

[Ash]

Yeah, it was. It was so sweet. Hi. Oh, and you, like, I wonder if it sounded like his voice to you, because it took, like, a little while for the energy to kind of ramp up, and then it.

[Elena]

Oh, my God.

[Ash]

So clear that. Wow. That was crazy. That is damn incredible. That's one of the clearest EVPs I've ever heard.

[Elena]

That gave me a lot.

[Ash]

All right, story number two. Damn.

[Elena]

Top that now.

[Ash]

Top that. Waverly Hills. Murdery vibes and a literal ghost shadow. Oh, fast forward to another great idea I had. Taking a sister's trip to Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville, Kentucky.

[Elena]

That sounds amazing. That's a fantastic idea to take.

[Ash]

Let's go. Yeah. Because nothing says family bonding like haunted hallways and possible demonic attachments.

[Elena]

I think we actually have mentioned with Corinne and Sabrina, we. We might want. Want to do that.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Together. Brother's trip.

[Ash]

A ghost, girls, brothers, cult and coven trip. Yeah. Well, we booked the night tour because obviously it was several hours long and they only let you use flashlights at specific times. The rest of your time, complete and utter darkness. Like, I me up. This is great. Like, I'm not even sure I have feet anymore.

[Elena]

Kind of dark. Holy.

[Ash]

We made it to the top floor where they kept the sick kids and where a nurse allegedly, quote, unquote, committed suicide. But the T is that she may have been murdered by a doctor she was hooking up with. Very American Horror Story, minus the musical numbers 100%. Here's where it gets freaky. Before the God said anything, I started feeling super weird. My heart was racing, my head was pounding, and I got this wave of anxiety, like I was about to go run a ghost marathon I didn't sign up for. I leaned over to my sister Bailey. Shout out to her, because she's also a huge fan. Hi, Bailey. I love your name, great name. And whispered, I don't like this. I want to leave. And then, like a bad punchline, the guide goes. A lot of people report feeling panic, nausea, dizziness, and chest pressure right here under where the nurse Was found hanging. Guess where I was standing. Yup. Directly underneath. I'd poop my pants. After that, we got to wander around on our own. And there's a spot with a ball left out for a little ghost boy who's known to play. So naturally, my sisters and I tried to summon our inner spooky babysitters.

[Elena]

Hell, yeah.

[Ash]

And gently kicked the ball around the circle. At first, nothing. No creepy giggles, no phantom penalty kicks. But then we stopped, let the ball settle in the middle of the circle, and watched it start to move on its own like nobody touched it. No breeze. No explanation.

[Elena]

That's the dream.

[Ash]

Yes, true. What did it say?

[Elena]

It says it on the bottom. What? It says charming.

[Ash]

Charming. That is charming. Oh, you. You're taking it.

[Elena]

I taking that.

[Ash]

You really? You said that was like a Blanche Deverel. Like. Oh, stop it.

[Elena]

I'm taking that one.

[Ash]

I'm dead.

[Elena]

I. I claim it.

[Ash]

You said, it's me. I'm charming. That was so scary.

[Elena]

I love how you're like, oh, the kid is charming.

[Ash]

I'm like, you're like, it's me, baby. Can you change the.

[Elena]

I know. Can you please change that so that I don't. My pants.

[Ash]

I'm going to try. Of course you do.

[Elena]

We're going to keep it for now.

[Ash]

Oh, so charming of you. That's so scary. I jumped. Did you see the jump? I did.

[Elena]

I think we all did. God, this is fun.

[Ash]

All right. It is. I know. I love a vibe like this. It's also a perfect day for that. It is kind of spooky.

[Elena]

A little spooky.

[Ash]

So la la la. No explanation. It just slowly rolled across the floor like it had somewhere to be. We all looked at each other and said, did you see that?

[Elena]

No.

[Ash]

Did you actually see that?

[Elena]

Did you hear that?

[Ash]

Did you hear that? We were officially shook after I got the bright idea to pull out my phone, switch it to night mode, and take a billion rapid fire photos.

[Elena]

Oh, hell.

[Ash]

Y started scrolling through the photos and. Holy hell, y'all. In one of them, there's a clear little figure. You could see legs, a small, shadowy body. And the wildest part, it has a shadow.

[Elena]

What the.

[Ash]

We were all freaking out, but in the best way. It's probably one of the coolest and creepiest things I've ever captured. I've attached a photo so you can see it for yourselves. If you don't mind, email us and let us know if we can share the photo. Let me. Let me know if you see what I saw or if I need to sage my entire existence. Ash and Alina, thank you for making this hilarious, spooky and slightly unhinged community. You've gotten me through grief, anxiety and many late night cleaning sprees where I was 90, sure that something was watching me. P S. You can share the recording and the ghost picture.

[Elena]

A real one.

[Ash]

Creep it weird. Bergen. I've also attached some extra pictures. One with my sisters, my mom, myself and my niece. And a spooky ghost tattoos that I adore. One of her ghost tattoos is absolutely iconic.

[Elena]

Her ghost tattoo has titties. Yes. It's hilarious.

[Ash]

It's really good. Let's see. Oh yup, that's clear as day.

[Elena]

Oh, you can literally see and look right there.

[Ash]

It does.

[Elena]

Yeah. There's a shadow. Oh my God. That's one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen. Oh.

[Ash]

What the. Ew.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Ash]

I'm gonna put this away now.

[Elena]

Yeah, we're gonna share it, don't worry.

[Ash]

Yeah, we'll share that. So check out like the Instagram, obviously. Bergen.

[Elena]

Oh, Bergen.

[Ash]

That is one of the clearest EVPs I've ever heard and one of the clearest photos I've ever seen.

[Elena]

You provided.

[Ash]

Yeah, you really did.

[Elena]

You really came through with that. Bergen. Burgin. Bergen. Damn. That was crazy.

[Ash]

That was wild.

[Elena]

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[Elena]

Those couple times my soul left my body at church camp. Yeah, it feels right. I would say so feels right. Hello, my two favorite absolutely beautiful, badass, witchy girl bosses.

[Ash]

Hi.

[Elena]

I got that.

[Ash]

Cute.

[Elena]

Your name is Zaina. I love that name.

[Ash]

That's really pretty.

[Elena]

And we can use the name party. I've been listening to you two for about a year, courtesy of my amazing father for putting me on to Yalls podcast.

[Ash]

Thanks, Zaina's dad.

[Elena]

I love that. Some of my favorite memories are the two of us going on hikes together while listening to your podcast and me being seriously freaked the fuck out because he somehow always chooses the Murder in the woods episodes. Questionable choice, but hey, it's part of the fun of being hella paranoid and enjoying nature.

[Ash]

Oh my God, I love it.

[Elena]

Fresh air is for dead people. It is. I will absolutely freak the out if you use my story for your listener tales. Here's a double space. I've gone to a church camp on the Grand Ma. Is it the Grand Mesa?

[Ash]

Grand Mesa.

[Elena]

Amazing.

[Ash]

Really good.

[Elena]

Nailed it. We have our own special demon named Mikey. So I've gone to a church camp on the Grand Mesa almost every year for the past four or five years. It's truly a beautiful place in the summer. The lake is such a beautiful pristine teal color, and it's always the perfect temperature. The only thing that gives you a slight sense of foreboding is how dark it gets at night. And that tends to remind you how you're in the middle of fucking nowhere. And if there just happens to be some random ass axe murderer, your chances of survival are slim to none. Yeah, I mean, like the axe murder situation probably won't happen, but if it did, again, slim to none. Maybe not for the other people, but I don't fuck for. I don't fuck with the dark or the woods at night. So I could probably get away. But when I say it gets dark in the middle of nowhere in Colorado, I mean it gets dark.

[Ash]

It does.

[Elena]

You see? You know, keep that in mind because in the next stories that is crucial to know. Anyway, moving on this particular year, there wasn't very many people signed up for that camp. So we all ended up staying in the same room on the second floor of the lodge, which was typically used by the camp staff. Normally the campers would stay in one of the many cabins on the 5ish acres of land that the camp was on. This lodge that we stayed in. Creepy as sinister vibe. You had to climb this. I love that you said that. You had to climb the little spiral staircase to the attic to use the bathroom. Whereas if we stayed in the cabins, we would have to go outside to walk the however many yards to the bathroom hall, which isn't really much better. But the bathroom in the attic was not for me. I still used it, but, like, the entire lodge was just fucking creepy. The room on the second floor that we stayed in wasn't that creepy. There was bunk beds, but we all just slept on the floor like it was one big sleepover. And honestly, that was fun. I wasn't ever really invited to sleepovers as a kid, so it felt like I made up for that.

[Ash]

I'll fight whoever didn't take you to a sleepover.

[Elena]

It's true. I don't believe in sleepovers anymore. But I will fucking fight people for not inviting you.

[Ash]

I also don't believe in sleepovers, but.

[Elena]

Like, not happening for me, my kids. But like, I wish it happened for you.

[Ash]

Yeah. Back in the day.

[Elena]

Cause I went to sleepovers.

[Ash]

Yeah, we all did.

[Elena]

And I loved sleepovers.

[Ash]

We all didn't. And I'll fight whoever didn't invite you to a sleepover.

[Elena]

Zaina them up, Zaina.

[Ash]

Maybe we'll have you know. It'd be so fun. We should do a live show someday. That sleepovers.

[Elena]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we should do one that's like literally in the middle of the night.

[Ash]

That'd be fun.

[Elena]

Like, sleepover.

[Ash]

We'll talk to our people.

[Elena]

We'll do a late one. So it's like we can all like watch a scary movie late.

[Ash]

You could do like a 10 o'clock show.

[Elena]

Yeah, that would actually be a lot of fun.

[Ash]

We're gonna workshop this.

[Elena]

Mikey's like, wait a minute.

[Ash]

There's like an online platform where you.

[Elena]

Can sit there and watch a movie.

[Ash]

Together and you can all sit there.

[Elena]

Oh, yeah, you're right. We used to do it with Caleb.

[Ash]

Let's do that.

[Elena]

And we can all watch a scary movie together. And we can all just like react together.

[Ash]

That sounds like a lot of fun.

[Elena]

We gotta do that.

[Ash]

I want to do that, please.

[Elena]

That'd be so fun. Would you guys be down for that?

[Ash]

Would you do that with us?

[Elena]

Everyone has to wear pajamas.

[Ash]

You must.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

I am really stingent about pajama party rules.

[Elena]

Yeah. She doesn't fuck around.

[Ash]

You need to come to my pajama.

[Elena]

Party in pajamas, in regular clothes.

[Ash]

Don't.

[Elena]

And I agree.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Yeah, we're gonna do that.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Thank you, Zaina, for letting us get here.

[Ash]

Yeah. So we're gonna give you the slumber party you never had, babe. Hell yeah.

[Elena]

Zayn is invited to this one. Now there was this one girl, super sweet, super kind. We're just gonna call her Molly. I love that name. And we learned. I do. I love that name. It's a great name. My kid's favorite American girl doll right now is Molly.

[Ash]

Mine was always Molly. Yeah, I liked Kit too.

[Elena]

Kit was a butt after my time.

[Ash]

I thought you were gonna say Kit was a. No, because you went like, Kit was a butt.

[Elena]

No, she was. She's after the. I'm not sure. Did he say I'm not sure. Honestly. Me neither. That was. That was distasteful.

[Ash]

Yeah, he said, I'm not sure about that.

[Elena]

I'm not sure.

[Ash]

I'm not sure.

[Elena]

Yes, I made a distasteful joke and our. Our spirit demon friend let us know. I'm not sure.

[Ash]

He said, don't leave that in.

[Elena]

Not sure about that.

[Ash]

He said, our demon is legal.

[Elena]

And when the. When the Damon is saying. I'm not sure about that. You gotta listen. Yeah, so sometimes I do that. Yikes.

[Ash]

That was great.

[Elena]

So, yeah, the original five didn't include Kit.

[Ash]

It didn't.

[Elena]

But Felicity was my girl. And we learned on night one that Molly happened to talk in her sleep. So every morning we would joke about it and whoever. Whoever she woke up with her late night sleep talking kind of weird ramblings would tell us about it. It was always just kind of funny things like Molly singing or something weird. So of course I thought nothing of it. On night three, I just couldn't sleep for some reason. So I stayed up well past midnight reading. Now around 3:00am, the Devil's Hour. Oh no, my owl. Oh no, my. My owl. I desperately had to pee like so fucking bad. For hours I'd been putting it off, which was majorly dumb on my part. So 3am comes and I'm sitting there contemplating whether or not Attic of Doom was worth it or not. Not. I'm still a firm believer that it would not have been worth it Anyways. I'm just sitting there trying not to pee myself. When Molly sits up and I'm like, oh, hey girl, want to go to the demon bathroom with me? Because yes, I'm a scaredy cat. Molly did not respond. And low key, it was kind of terrifying because she's sitting there, head down, kind of limp looking, and I'm just sitting there feeling my heart drop because what the actual fuck is going on? And then, I shit you not, she looks up at the door, which was closed, and just whispers, you can let them in now.

[Ash]

No. Why did she do that? No. What a bitch. Molly. That's bitch made.

[Elena]

And then she whispered it again.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

You can let them in now.

[Ash]

Stop. Molly. You think she was fucking with you?

[Elena]

Then someone knocked on the door super quietly.

[Ash]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Elena]

And Molly just laid back down like nothing ever happened.

[Ash]

No. Did you ever go back to that camp impressed? I thought it said undressed.

[Elena]

I thought it said impressed. Wow, that was a good story. It was a good story.

[Ash]

Oh my. Wait, what was I gonna say? Ghosty? You interrupted me. Did you go back to that camp again? I think is what I was gonna say.

[Elena]

We'll have to see. When I tell you the way I almost my pants. Like I don't with ghosts at all. And someone knocked on the door.

[Ash]

Literal.

[Elena]

Literal. Millise. After Molly said, you can let them in now. Stop doing that. I can tell you didn't tell you I didn't have to pee anymore because there was no way I was leaving that room.

[Ash]

I'm surprised you didn't piss yourself right there.

[Elena]

I thought you were gonna say because I evacuated my. My bladder. Yeah, the entire situation was just giving the nun. And let's just say I was not a fan. I was not gonna be the human soul sacrifice. So there was no fucking way in hell I was leaving that room. So I just accepted my fate and lay there until morning.

[Ash]

You said UTI it is?

[Elena]

Yep. I'll go with that. Just waiting for the bathroom demon to come and get me. I can also tell you that I didn't share that story the next morning. I value my life. So already being a little freaked out. I did not go anywhere alone the next day. Which leads us to the next story that involves playing hide and seek but in the dark.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

I used to love playing that game. Me and my friends did that all the time.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Now I already explained that it gets fucking dark. And at night there is one street light that comes on and it's a useless fucking piece of shit for a light. It's right next to the One goddamn building that gives light. I love that we're talking about a church camp. And I love that Zane is just like this fucking goddamn building.

[Ash]

I know.

[Elena]

So good. That building being the mess hall. And the mess hall lights are always on. They should have put the damn street light anywhere else. Literally anywhere else. But anyways, on the night, on the last night, they always do a night game that involves running around and looking for something that's fun. And this night they chose a game called Sardines. It's basically hide and seek. But at the beginning, two people hide together and everyone has to split up and find them. And when you find them, you hide with them. Oh. So you keep squishing in with them to the hiding spot.

[Ash]

Oh, that's cool.

[Elena]

That's kind of fun.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Now me and this girl, we'll call her Nicole. Were the original two people who had to hide together. One thing to know about Nicole is that she has the most beautiful singing voice I have ever heard. Like, it's a voice that got her a full ride, scholarship to Juilliard. Oh, shit. AMDA and an internship for singing in Italy. So like, damn, she's hella good at singing to say the least. She had the most brilliant idea of where to hide. Now for context, on the girls side of camp, there's. There's 12 cabins. Cabins G1 to G12. There's this one cabin though, that absolutely no one has. Has no one wants to stay in. And that would be G4. G4 is the boondocks of this camp.

[Ash]

Nobody wants to stay there. He's like, please just stay there.

[Elena]

Damn. He's like endless with us.

[Ash]

He is.

[Elena]

I'm kind of loving having a ghost as like our color commentary commentator here.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

Like, we're already in the middle of nowhere. But G4 is on the border of the camp. It's about 100 yards away from all the other girls cabins. Not only was that royally fucked, but also it was just giving, you know, possibly Ted Bundy's shack. It was a cabin with a long. With a long path down to it. And the trees around it just blocked any light. This is where Nicole wanted to hide.

[Ash]

I mean, smart.

[Elena]

It is smart. Like fuck to the no. But what could I do but go with her? Like, I didn't want to die, but I also didn't want to let her die alone. So I followed her.

[Ash]

Good friend.

[Elena]

That is good friend. Once we got to see.

[Ash]

That is good friend.

[Elena]

That is good friend. That is good friend. Good job you did, friend. Well, once we Got to Satan's lair, which is slightly ironic. Satan's lair, which is slightly ironic because we were at a literal church camp. We just waited. At one point, a branch snapped to our far left and I lost my shit and basically started crying. But that was just the beginning of the fun. Nicole, being the brave witchy badass that she was, went to investigate. So I stood there for upwards of five minutes by myself, just praying that God wouldn't let me die like this and that my parents knew I loved them if I happened to die like this. And then I heard someone singing close by. I couldn't see anything and I didn't know where it was coming from. It sounded like it was one voice coming from all around me.

[Ash]

That.

[Elena]

And it was that song. That one super fucking creepy song that goes ding dong. I know you can hear me. Open up the door. I only want to play a little.

[Ash]

Ew.

[Elena]

I know that song. Obviously.

[Ash]

Evidently.

[Elena]

Obviously. It's like it's got a very creepy.

[Ash]

It sure does. And you just keep singing it.

[Elena]

So I began. I think it's like a tick tock sound. Is it? I'm pretty sure what is because it's like an old song. And so I began turning in circles, desperately trying to find out what the who, the why, the. Needless to say, I'm on the verge of a panic attack when someone puts their hand on my shoulder.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

I have never screamed louder in my entire life.

[Ash]

Do you think it was God?

[Elena]

I turn around and it's Molly. Close Molly. And Nicole starts laughing somewhere and she walks out of the goddamn cabin saying that I should have seen my. It's honestly super funny now because I'm a scaredy cat. Lol. And I still have no fucking clue how Nicole pulled off getting into the cabin without me seeing or hearing her. But anyways, those are my stories about how my souls left my body twice at a Christian summer camp. I love you guys so incredibly much and I hope you enjoyed my wack ass story. Keep it weird and take it away, Ash.

[Ash]

But not so weird that you lose your soul twice at a church camp. But I mean, I guess you could find it there if you lost it.

[Elena]

That's true. So I think that's part of the deal, right? I don't know, Zaina. Those were awesome.

[Ash]

I loved those.

[Elena]

I loved them. I'm sorry that our Damon thinks that you're pathetic for not wanting to stay in G4.

[Ash]

I know. I think it meant all of the campers. Not just.

[Elena]

Yeah, he definitely thought everybody.

[Ash]

We speak for him.

[Elena]

Yeah, we're friends.

[Ash]

Or. Or.

[Elena]

Right. We're friends.

[Ash]

Hey, demon or ghost or spirit or spirit. Are we friends?

[Elena]

Oh, he said, I'll let you know later.

[Ash]

He said TBD.

[Elena]

Undecided.

[Ash]

All right, this is called Black Betty Listener tale submission. Please read this. Wild. Okay.

[Elena]

Okay.

[Ash]

Okay.

[Elena]

Sure thing.

[Ash]

A haunting experience in our basement. Hey, yo.

[Elena]

Hey.

[Ash]

Hey. My name is Tara. Yes, you can share. Just gonna hop right down. What is your name?

[Elena]

Hi, I'm Elena.

[Ash]

I'm Ashley. And this is morbid.

[Elena]

He wants.

[Ash]

They want to be friends. What is your name? We'll give you some time to answer.

[Elena]

Is your name Nicholas or is it something else? If it's something else, let us know.

[Ash]

That's a lot of asking.

[Elena]

I know. You said it with Nicholas before and I like that. It's nice.

[Ash]

That's a nice name. If it's your name.

[Elena]

If your name is Nicholas. Love that.

[Ash]

Let us know.

[Elena]

If it's something else, let us know.

[Ash]

So fun. Okay, I'm just gonna tell the story while you. While you answer, while you call to plate. I'm compelled to share a chilling experience that has lingered in my memory for years, and I would love to compel you to read it. Well, consider me compelled.

[Elena]

I am compelled.

[Ash]

As this started after my parents purchased a house of sorts. To renovate. To renovate, honey. After renovations were done, the layout of the house was standard. Walk through the front door into the living room. Off to the side is one bedroom. Past the living room is the kitchen. And tucked into the corner of said kitchen is the door to house.

[Elena]

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[Ash]

It didn't used to be Pretty standard. Yeah, pretty standard. It didn't used to be, but I digress. Yeah, usually when you go down the steps into the basement you're met with an abundance of light. The base of the steps leads into a common room and to the right is a hallway with a bedroom door. A doorway opposite that leads to the laundry room and then the bathroom. When standing in the common room, straight ahead is a bedroom with another bedroom connected by a door on the right. Each room has four smaller sized windows lining the upper wall. And during the day it was lit up in an old bookstore kind of way.

[Elena]

Ungodly.

[Ash]

Do you feel like the basement is ungodly or are you not a fan of this layout?

[Elena]

He's like, that sounds terrible. Sorry about your layout. You know what? Maybe he doesn't like all the light that streams in.

[Ash]

Oh yeah. I don't like that much light either.

[Elena]

I get it.

[Ash]

My parents, without our consent, bought this house when it was just a basement. The whole house in the ground where the dead live. Oh yeah. They thought that would be a great idea. Not only was it a basement house, it was often frequented throughout the years by local townies who engaged in various satanic rituals. The. You said that, not me. But I also second it. We were a Pentecostal family who couldn't even watch Disney movies.

[Elena]

Oh my.

[Ash]

So imagine my confusion as a 90s kid when my Pentecostal parents decided to buy and fuck up the house of Lucifer J, Satan himself. What's the J stand for? Oh, it stands for Jaemon Jamin, Lucifer, Jamon, Satan. My parents, with the intent to restore and renovate, added an upper level to the house. Good choice.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

And we lived there for several years. Despite the fresh new look, the house carried an eerie atmosphere. And we encountered various inexplicable incidents over the years. From hearing our names being called by my mom, who turned out to never be in the home, to furniture moving. I'm talking literal poltergeist, like chairs stacking, cabinets opening, etc. For the longest time, my brothers and I blamed each other. And we're sure one of us was trying to scare the others to waking me up one night crying because I couldn't. Couldn't see. It was like somebody shut off my eyeballs. Out of service. No connection available. I was blind. Please come back. We're still here.

[Elena]

Don't worry.

[Ash]

We're gonna stay like here.

[Elena]

Would love to know your name though. Still would love it.

[Ash]

What's your name?

[Elena]

You're Nicholas. I feel.

[Ash]

Yeah, but, but, but.

[Elena]

Let us know if we're wrong.

[Ash]

Yeah.

[Elena]

We're here though.

[Ash]

We're here.

[Elena]

Yeah.

[Ash]

It's so fun.

[Elena]

Actually, this is. This is. She's like, this is so fun.

[Ash]

This is the best.

[Elena]

This is really fun. This is really fun.

[Ash]

Really having a great time. I was scream for my parents to come and well, that was useless because when they did rush in, the only said the only thing my mom said was quit hollering and put on your glasses. Insert I love my parents dearly, but what in the entire fuckbomb it's blacked out completely. Can't see and not blind as a bat.

[Elena]

Blurry.

[Ash]

Can't see.

[Elena]

Yeah, that's scary. Yeah. If your child says they can't see.

[Ash]

She'S like, well, put your damn glasses on.

[Elena]

Quit your hollering.

[Ash]

I'm tired of your. I never called for her again because clearly the Lord didn't bless her with the wisdom I needed in that moment. And I would figure that out.

[Elena]

Understand? I understand.

[Ash]

You understand that's a bummer.

[Elena]

Didn't bless your mom with that.

[Ash]

Eventually and out of nowhere, my sight just popped back on and I was able to see my parents standing in the doorway looking at me like, I'm hear you.

[Elena]

That's cool. That's fine.

[Ash]

That's good.

[Elena]

We were down for that because we can hear you. We're trying to chat. Yeah, Mikey's his pants. I don't like it.

[Ash]

Mikey literally just goes, I don't like it.

[Elena]

I I'm good. Is it cool if I refer to you as Nicholas from here on out? Let me know.

[Ash]

So her parents were looking at her like she may need a shrink. Thanks, guys. A1 protection there one incident stands out as the heaviest and the strangest. One day my mom and I were home doing laundry together and took a trip into the desert depths of hell to go put away my brother's clothes as one does. As we stepped into the finished basement common room, we immediately stopped and froze directly in front of us, where the doorway to the boys bedroom was usually transparent and filled up by sunlight, but now it was pitch black. It was like somebody had hung a blackout curtain in the doorway, preventing our view. This was so dark, you just could not see into the room. You could not see the windows, the beds and the other doorway. You could see absolutely nothing.

[Elena]

What the hell?

[Ash]

The I immediately was like, nope. The not looked at my mom who not only dropped the laundry and got the out of there, but also left me standing there alone.

[Elena]

Wow. Not a one did did not bless.

[Ash]

So with something that was the heaviest, most absorbing presence I've ever felt in my life to this day.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Ash]

The unsettling feeling of a presence overwhelmed us and to this day, my mom swears it was demonic. No, lady, you tried to evict Satan from his home.

[Elena]

That's right. Lucifer. J. Satan. Lucifer.

[Ash]

J. Satan.

[Elena]

I thought it was Jeffrey, but Jeffrey. I thought it was Jeffrey.

[Ash]

I thought we decided Jamon.

[Elena]

No, we did. I thought under Philly. I thought it was.

[Ash]

Oh, that's fair. I like the name Jeffrey. I like Lucifer Jeffrey. Yeah, that's good. I like it. We can workshop them.

[Elena]

I like it.

[Ash]

This experience was the culmination of unease we'd felt over the years. And it remains the most vivid and horrifying event in my recollection of living in that house. Despite my parents effort to restore and renew the home, the basement stark history seemed to stick around. No. No amount of doorway anointments, prayers, banishing ever got rid of that energy and weight. I guess you really can't evict Satan himself from where he resides. Who knew? Hint not my mom. Sharing this with you is not just about recounting a haunting experience, but also about the inexplicable connection to the past that some places carry and why you should never try to renovate a basement house in a hillbilly town where who knows what took place. Because you'll have wasted thousands and thousands of dollars and end up moving out shortly after completing all of that work. Oh, thank you for taking the time to read my letter, Tara.

[Elena]

I was very medieval.

[Ash]

Sincerely, former Pentecostal 90s kid Tara.

[Elena]

Former Pentecostal 90s.

[Ash]

That was great.

[Elena]

What a moniker.

[Ash]

Horrifying.

[Elena]

I love it. Tara.

[Ash]

That was so scary.

[Elena]

I don't like your house at all. Your old house.

[Ash]

No, I'm glad you don't live there anymore.

[Elena]

Let's see. So should we do one more?

[Ash]

We should probably do one more.

[Elena]

Maybe I'll do another one. Maybe. Did he say more or what? Did he say more? He wants another one. Oh, he said do more.

[Ash]

We were literally saying, should we do one more? And he said more.

[Elena]

He said more. All right, Nicholas.

[Ash]

Okay, Nicholas. I think his name is Nicholas. Because he didn't say another name.

[Elena]

He's not saying. No.

[Ash]

I love the name Nicholas. So shout out to you.

[Elena]

Nice. All right, so let's do one that is called My mom sees auras and oh, a demon came for my older brother. Oh. The whole tale, including the intro, are included in the p. Thank you. I don't know if I can use your name, so I'm not going to use it yet. Hello, Ash, Elena, Dave, Deb, Deb, Mikey and all other weirdos. That's free I think the charm is for me.

[Ash]

No, I don't think it was. I don't think so.

[Elena]

I think we just got called pathetic next to you. Oh, yeah.

[Ash]

Damn.

[Elena]

I don't know. I don't know. Nicholas. I don't think that was for.

[Ash]

At first I thought it said pathetic next tail. I was like. I was like, whoa. That was spot on, Nicholas. And we haven't even started this tale.

[Elena]

Nicholas, I don't think you were referring to me there. I think we have a. I don't.

[Ash]

Think you're referring to me. Nicholas. Nicholas. Who's pathetic? Let us know.

[Elena]

Asher. Elena, if it says Mikey, I'm gonna myself.

[Ash]

Imagine.

[Elena]

If it says I would die, I'd die. All right. If this gets read on the pod, I will simply pass away. Rest in peace. A dear friend introduced me to your podcast in 2021 and I listened periodically until September of 2023. I was doing my last field trip field work, internship at a children's clinic for occupational therapy school and was driving about an hour and a half to and from the clinic I worked for the same clinic, that clinic that I did that field work for over a year and had almost a two hour daily commute.

[Ash]

Oh, fuck that.

[Elena]

I was able to catch up on the backlog. Yes, even the underwater days to keep me sane. I now work at another pediatric clinic only 30 minutes from my house and happily listen to the pod on Monday and Thursdays while I drive or do paperwork. I'm also an amateur quilter and have listened to your wonderful voices for hours as I've pinned, press and cussed out my life choices when I've made mistakes. I cannot thank you enough for providing victims the opportunity to get their stories told and the people that ended their lives the proper roasting they deserve. You wonderful humans, Ash and Alina, for bringing the stories to life in the most engaging way possible. Thank you. Thank you, Mikey, for helping everything run so smooth. Deb. Deb, for reading all the stories and choosing some bangers. And Dave. Oh, magical research wizard Dave. Enough said. I call it are creating a spooky in the best way possible. Space for advocacy and a friendship for those of all ages, orientations, spirituality, religious views, etc.

[Ash]

Hell yeah.

[Elena]

Thank you for creating this sensational place for us weirdos.

[Ash]

That was really sweet. Thank you.

[Elena]

I didn't even know that that was. What a perfect one to end on.

[Ash]

I know.

[Elena]

Before I start, please don't use my name.

[Ash]

Oh, look at that.

[Elena]

I knew it. It's like I knew. Yeah, but you gave me Your name. I had to send a revised one of these with changed names to make it easier to read. Thank you for doing that. That I've included pictures at the bottom of my family, the zoo of pets that live with my parents, and a reference picture. It'll make sense when you read a little further. These tales are about my mama and her gift of reading people's auras. Her gift is not a party trick and I don't want to have people ask her to read their auras unprovoked. She's given me permission to share these stories and it says I had to revise this a second time because my mother informed me that I had told the first story wrong and she wanted the details correct.

[Ash]

Iconic.

[Elena]

I will also include a link to a news article about an 85 year old woman from the small farming area that I live in who saved herself from a home intruder. Because it was a wild tale, I didn't think I could write it better than the news. If you need a palate cleanser or just to be amazed, check it out. We'll share that story. I've included a 14 points double space puffer. I hope that's how it's satanic. Satanic. Nicholas.

[Ash]

Wow. Nicholas gets it.

[Elena]

Nicholas. He's on theme.

[Ash]

He's like. I feel like he did like a.

[Elena]

He went down when he did that.

[Ash]

He did do that.

[Elena]

I wrote this on a break from work so unfortunately I did not time it. Insert quote from DW Read from the classic TV show Arthur I'm a failure.

[Ash]

Oh my God I love her.

[Elena]

I also apologize for rambling to begin. Anyway, onto the tales. My mom is the epitome of the Shakespeare quote. Though she be but little, she is fierce. At her tallest she was 4ft 10 inches. If she stretched, she is now about 4 foot 9 and a quarter. As a kid we would always hear my mom say things about auras. It was normal for us. She will tell strangers what their aura means sometimes, especially if it's unusual or particularly special. We, my dad and my siblings sometimes get embarrassed by this, but my mom persists with it nonetheless. The auras that she sees tend to be the core of who someone is. The auras can get brighter or dimmer depending on if someone is feeling well, uplifted, down or ill, etc. My sister win has a double aura, a core of yellow and an outer pink layer representing her energy levels.

[Ash]

Pretty.

[Elena]

My mom has seen Win around people that make her yellow dim because they talk down to her or treat her badly. Fuck those people. Her pink ranges in color based on how well she slept or how she's managing her medical condition.

[Ash]

Oh, that's cool.

[Elena]

My older brother Cletus was performing with a choir when he was in college, a student. Jill was conducting the choir for several numbers, and she came on stage appearing timid. Jill got to the middle of the stage and raised her arms to begin the number. Jill's confidence was palpable. As soon as she raised her arms, my mom gasped and said, oh, I wish you could see that. After that concert was done and we found Cletus, my mom said he had to tell her what my mom saw. The moment that Jill raised her arms, my mom said that there was a silvery pink explosion across the stage.

[Ash]

Oh, that just gave me a chill.

[Elena]

Me too. I imagine it looks like the parting of the Red Sea and the prince of Egypt. Now, not all of my mom's experiences are positive. She's been a nurse longer than I've been alive and worked in the ER for many years.

[Ash]

Oh, man.

[Elena]

Yes, my mom is a badass, will always be a hero in my eyes, and has crazy stories. She was working the night shift when a man and his girlfriend slash wife, I'm not positive if they were married or not, came in. His most distinguishable feature to my mom was his black aura. Black is one of the rarest. It's not, if not the rarest she has ever seen. I think she's seen maybe two or three in her 60 plus years of life. Wow. Black shows her that the person is evil at their core. Ooh, my stomach just growled.

[Ash]

Your core is evil.

[Elena]

My stomach just growled. My mom warned the female ER doctor not to close doors or be in the room alone with this man. The doctor asked why, and my mom said that the man was abusing his partner, who I will call Jane Doe. The doctor assessed him and he needed an X ray. While the man was out of earshot, my mom asked Jane if she needed help. Jane looked terrified, shook her head, and said, paraphrased, there would be consequences from the man if she knew. If he knew. My mother was talking to her about what was going on. He was 100% harming this woman behind closed doors. And I can't imagine the fear Jane must have felt when my mom was able to close. Clock it. My mom said if Jane changed her mind before they left, my mom would get the hospital police officer involved. Jane smiled and thanked my mom. They finished all the tests and things they needed and left the hospital. Sometime during the night, the ER staff looked up this man, he had gotten out of jail after killing a young woman.

[Ash]

Holy.

[Elena]

Holy. I can't remember if it was because it was manslaughter or technicality or some other. We all know he had gotten away with murder and is probably continuing to terrorize women slash good people like the small dick weasel he is. Yeah, there are other experiences she has, but I don't want to take up too much time. I'll get into the second story about a demon coming for my brother.

[Ash]

Please do.

[Elena]

Thank you. Cletus was my parents fourth pregnancy and the first one that made it past the first trimester. Aww. After so many miscarriages, my parents were stoked for the idea of a little of the little pitter patter of feet. My mom woke up in the middle of the night. I've never known when, but let's be real, probably about 3am to see a black figure standing in front of her bathroom door. She could clearly see the outline of a humanoid figure in the whites of eyes, but everything was black.

[Ash]

Oh, I don't like the whites of eyes.

[Elena]

Nicholas, what do you think?

[Ash]

I know you've been quiet. Nicholas, are you still there?

[Elena]

You're just listening to the. To the tail. She asked, why are you here? And the figure simply stated, I'm here for your baby. No, I'm Chilies.

[Ash]

No.

[Elena]

My mom literally screamed my dad out of bed and demanded that he join her in praying for whatever there this was to go away and stay away. I'm pretty sure that this happened at least one more time, but I'm not.

[Ash]

Positive for that to happen once alone.

[Elena]

Is I'm here for the baby and.

[Ash]

Then for it to happen again. Jesus Christ.

[Elena]

So she has told me, quote, there was no way in hell I would let that thing bug by my kids. My mom is a huge mama bear and gets quite scary despite her smaller stature.

[Ash]

It's the small ones always too.

[Elena]

It's true. Cletus arrived not so long after, followed by me, my sister, and my younger brother.

[Ash]

Aww.

[Elena]

Thank you for all the time you put into the podcast and for taking the time to read my rambling tale. Keep it weird, but not so weird that I can't think of anything. So please take it away, Ash. Only if you want to.

[Ash]

Oh my God.

[Elena]

Queen, that was so kind.

[Ash]

Not so weird that a demon shows up to drag your baby to hell.

[Elena]

No. Over here. Over here.

[Ash]

I said, where are you?

[Elena]

You said, where are you? And he was like, I'm right over here.

[Ash]

Oh, Nicholas.

[Elena]

I love you, Nicholas. For life.

[Ash]

Oh my Gosh, you guys, these are really.

[Elena]

That is. And this is signed a fellow weirdo.

[Ash]

A fellow weirdo. Wow, those were really good.

[Elena]

You guys have some going on and your parents have some going on.

[Ash]

The aura one was so cool.

[Elena]

Yes. And like the black ore. But that one, that the. When she raised her arms and it was like an explosion of silvery light. I love that.

[Ash]

That's really.

[Elena]

And I love that your mom was like, she's got to know.

[Ash]

And then she was like, I wish you could see that.

[Elena]

That's cool, guys. Damn, you made this satanic episode so much fun.

[Ash]

Happy 666.

[Elena]

No. What?

[Ash]

How did I die?

[Elena]

Oh, dull. He was like, it was a little dull.

[Ash]

Damn, Nicholas.

[Elena]

You know what? Nicholas has high standards. Being from the spirit realm.

[Ash]

He was like, that was dull. Let's get into some crazy sh. Like, how did I.

[Elena]

Like, how did I die?

[Ash]

Nicholas, do you know how you died? We'll update you guys and.

[Elena]

Damn.

[Ash]

In the meantime, we hope you keep.

[Elena]

Listening and we hope you keep it.

[Ash]

Weird, but not so weird that you don't tune in to find out how Nicholas died.

[Elena]

Nicholas, how did you die?

[Ash]

How'd you die? Oh, my God.

[Elena]

He will touch you.

[Ash]

He will.

[Elena]

He will touch you.

[Ash]

What? Bye. Who will touch.

[Elena]

Who will touch who?

[Ash]

Dad.

[Elena]

Eddie. He did. He touched me. He fell like this. Wait, Nicholas, did you make that happen?

[Ash]

You said. I don't want to talk right now. I'll wait. I'll wait. Like a teacher.

[Elena]

Nicholas, did you make that fall and touch me in the shadow? That's really metal and I like it. Do you like ghost, Nicholas? God, that feels very emo. I like that. In the drkhl.

[Ash]

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[Elena]

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[Ash]

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[Elena]

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