Episode Revisit: The Survival Story of Mary Vincent, Patron Saint of Badassery

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Episode: "Revisit: The Survival Story of Mary Vincent, Patron Saint of Badassery"

Hosts: Ash Kelley & Alaina Urquhart
Date: May 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this powerful revisit, Ash and Alaina dive into the harrowing, inspiring true survival story of Mary Vincent, a 15-year-old girl who, after enduring unspeakable violence at the hands of Lawrence Singleton, managed not only to survive but to rebuild her life as an artist and survivor. The hosts balance compassion, dark humor, and outrage, celebrating Mary as a true "patron saint of badassery."

While the episode is centered on Mary Vincent’s resilience and survival, it also covers the broader failures of the criminal justice system regarding violent offenders, and how her case contributed to legal reform.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Opening Banter & Crime News

• Setting: Ash and Alaina record in Elena's (not the pod lab!) dark purple, "moody" room, riffing on decor.
• High-energy interlude: They quickly shift from decor to announce the episode will focus on "death" and "crime," clarifying this case "has a happy ending" (03:42).
• Serial Killers in the News:
  • Alaina reports on Samuel Little, possibly the deadliest American serial killer (90+ confessed murders) (05:00).
  • Brief discussion of Chris Watts case and victim-blaming by his mother ("He's the male version of a cunt" – Ash, 07:00), highlighting toxic family dynamics.

Introduction to Mary Vincent's Story

• Why this case?
  • Ash shares how she first heard the case on "My Favorite Murder," and they discuss the "I Survived" show and its episode on Mary Vincent (07:42–08:08).
  • Emphasis: Mary’s case is almost unimaginable in the sheer brutality she endured and survived.

Mary Vincent’s Early Life and Abduction (09:00–13:35)

• Mary, age 15, from a military family, had a turbulent home life and was hitchhiking to her grandfather's house in California.
• She encountered Lawrence "Larry" Singleton, described as a “friendly grandfather-type” in overalls (11:00), and despite red flags (van, only offering a ride to one), her tiredness and urgency led her to accept his offer.
• Singleton immediately cultivated trust by talking about his teenage daughter.

Quote:

"Here's the thing about old dudes in overalls...either sweet farmer types or hillbilly mutants."
—Alaina (11:43)

The Attack and Survival (13:35–26:40)

• Singleton deviates from planned route, blames it on an "honest mistake," and attacks Mary (14:49).
• She is brutally assaulted, repeatedly raped, and forced to drink a mystery substance.
• Violence escalates:
  • Singleton hacks off both her arms with a hatchet when she begs to be set free, throws her off a 30-foot embankment, and leaves her in a drainage pipe to die (17:14–18:14).
• Mary's Response:
  • Despite massive blood loss (lost 50%), head trauma, and shock, Mary uses mud to pack her wounds and stop the bleeding (24:50).
  • Crawls up the embankment and walks three miles naked, severely injured, holding her severed arms upright “so the muscles and blood wouldn't fall out” (26:41).

Notable Quote:

“I wanted to give up and go to sleep, but I felt someone there with me. A presence who wanted me to survive. A voice told me to get up and get help, or someone else would die.”
—Mary Vincent, as quoted by Alaina (23:59–24:22)

Rescue and Justice (26:41–38:00)

• Rescue:
  • After being passed by one terrified driver, Mary is eventually helped by a honeymooning couple who call for help.
  • In the hospital, Mary provides a detailed description of Singleton, leading to his quick arrest.

Quote:

"She described him so perfectly that the composite sketch...was like a photo."
—Alaina (28:01)

• Trial:
  • Mary, age 15, identifies Singleton in court with her prosthetic arm.
  • He receives 14 years (the maximum at the time), serves only 8, and attempts to sue Mary after release for alleged “forcible kidnap for the purposes of robbery” (31:01). Suit is dismissed.
  • After release, Singleton is shunned and unable to settle in most communities, forced to live at San Quentin Prison grounds during parole.

Continued Violence and Systemic Failure (40:57–49:10)

• Singleton moves to Florida, briefly assimilates into a neighborhood, but soon reveals his true nature.
• In 1997, he's witnessed brutally murdering Roxanne Hayes, a mother of three; Mary testifies at trial.

Quote:

“She didn’t have to testify, but she was like, 'Oh, I’ma testify.'”
—Alaina on Mary’s courage at second trial (47:04).

• Singleton is sentenced to death, dies of cancer in prison (2001).

The Aftermath and Mary’s Legacy (49:10–54:39)

• Mary grapples with lifelong trauma (“I’ve broken bones thanks to my nightmares...Every day I pray to God to make a space I can breathe in.” – Mary, 50:03).

• She finds healing and purpose as an artist, learning to draw with her prosthetic hooks—something she couldn’t do before.

• Becomes an advocate for victims through The Mary Vincent Foundation.

• Her attitude is extraordinary:

  Quote:

  “I’ve never indulged myself in anger or hate. I wouldn’t be here if I had.”
  —Mary Vincent, as quoted by Ash (52:14)

• Legal reforms enacted: her case led to harsher sentences for violent crimes.

Podcast Reflections & Memorable Moments

• Hosts' awe and humor:
  • Mix of empathy, dark jokes, and exasperation over legal loopholes (“Don’t trust [old dudes] in overalls”—Alaina, 11:43).
  • Riff about true crime “patron saint” candles: “She needs to be a candle that’s like Patron Saint of Badassery.” (54:54)
• Practical reminders:
  • “Don’t hitchhike. And if you do, don’t fall asleep.” (58:45)

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Notable Quotes by Timestamps

• On the heroic response:
  • “She forced herself to stay awake, because if she allowed herself to pass out… she would just bleed out.” (23:15–23:59)
• On her resourcefulness:
  • “To stop it from getting worse, she packed her arms with mud to cut off the flow of blood.” (24:42–24:50)
• On rebuilding:
  • “First she was a victim, then a survivor, and now she’s an artist.” (51:01–51:25)
• On advocacy:
  • “She started The Mary Vincent Foundation to advocate for teenage victims of sexual assault.” (52:08)

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Timeline and Timestamps for Key Events

• 09:00 – Introduction to Mary Vincent's early life and home life.
• 11:40 – Details of how Singleton singled Mary out and her decision to accept his offer.
• 13:35-14:49 – The ride turns ominous; Singleton deviates from route.
• 17:10-18:14 – The vicious attack and mutilation.
• 23:02-24:50 – Mary’s inner resolve, survival instincts, and practical heroism.
• 26:41 – Mary’s escape to the freeway/survival.
• 28:01 – Composite sketch and arrest of Singleton.
• 31:01-32:17 – Singleton’s laughably brief sentence, lawsuit, and Mary’s difficult post-trial life.
• 40:57 – Singleton’s move to Florida and continued danger to the public.
• 47:03 – Mary testifies powerfully at Singleton’s murder trial for a second victim.
• 50:03–52:14 – Mary’s life after trauma; her art, resilience, and advocacy.

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Final Takeaways

• Mary Vincent is a symbol of survival, inventiveness, and forgiveness. Against unimaginable odds—a horrific crime and a system that failed to protect her or others—she chose to live, advocate, and create.
• Lawrence Singleton’s case directly led to criminal justice reform, making survivors’ stories a critical force for legislative change.
• Hosts’ tone: A mix of irreverence, dark humor, and sincere admiration for Mary, keeping things raw, relatable, and compelling for listeners.

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Closing Reminders

• Don’t hitchhike. If you do, don’t fall asleep.
• If you want to support or learn more, check out the Mary Vincent Foundation and survivor-led advocacy.

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Listener Challenge:
The hosts tease the next episode and offer a sticker prize for anyone who can guess the upcoming case (57:14–57:50).

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Overall Mood:
Gritty, honest, survivor-celebrating, and justice-seeking—peppered with the hosts’ signature comedic relief and heartfelt reflection. A must-listen for anyone who needs proof of human resilience and the transformative power of not giving in to anger or hate.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

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And I'm Elena.

[A]

And this is Morbim.

[B]

Not in the pod lab.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

We're in Elena's room. Whoa, whoa.

[A]

It's purple.

[B]

It is purple.

[A]

It's very comfy in here.

[B]

It's a nice, dark purple.

[A]

Yeah, deep, dark purple. Me and Amy are painting our room, and I think that I want to do, like, everything white with one accent wall. But then your room makes me feel like. Do I want it to be, like, darker and homier?

[B]

That's why I like it, because it's, like, moody.

[A]

Yeah, you're a moody bitch.

[B]

I'm a moody bitch. So this works out really well.

[A]

But this isn't a decorating podcast.

[B]

It's not? What are we talking about this week? Death.

[A]

Crime.

[B]

Yes. But you know what? This one is kind of good because it has a happy ending.

[A]

A.

[B]

So, I mean, there's some. There's some shit along the way. Spoiler alert. For sure. But we're gonna be doing one where some badass lady, somehow, against all odds, in a situation that none of us could even fathom being in, somehow pulled her shit together and survived.

[A]

Yeah, this case is bananas.

[B]

Like, badass woman alert. We are doing the case of Mary

[A]

Vincent, and she is a baller.

[B]

She really is. And we're going to focus mostly on Mary. We are going to talk about her attacker, because he did some other shit, too. That affects her as well. But we're going to focus it mostly on Mary.

[A]

Yeah, because she's a band.

[B]

Because she's where it's at. There's a little true crime news that I'm sure everybody has heard about by now. We might have a new, very prolific serial killer on our hands. He's caught, luckily, but this could be insane. He could be one of the worst.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know much about this, so fill me in.

[B]

So this guy's name is Samuel Little. He doesn't have three names, but, you know, we'll take it. Basically, he could be one of the deadliest serial killers in history, which is crazy. He has admitted to Texas Rangers that he Played part in more than 90 unsolved murders in 10 states. Whoa. So he is 78 years old now, and he's serving three life sentences in California for killing three women. So he's already. He's already away forever. And they said that so far they're able to match over 30 cases to him so far. Yeah, and that's.

[A]

That's like all that they.

[B]

Like, that's just 30 so far. And they said they have no false information coming from him. It's all been up to Snap.

[A]

So how did they. How did they get him?

[B]

I don't know exactly how he got arrested, but Florida, the three women. But he. Obviously he got caught for other murders. And like I said he would, this would make him one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history. Ted Bundy confessed to 30. John Wayne Gacy killed at least 33 boys. But I think the Green river killer had 49 that he was convicted of. He confessed to 71. So this guy would pass him, which is insane. Damn. He has 30.

[A]

And how many more?

[B]

They've at least been able to connect 30 to him, but he's confessed to 90, and he's giving information to police about these 90. How the fuck do you kill 90 people? I'm saying I guess he started way back in the 70s.

[A]

The 70s were a wild time.

[B]

Yeah, they really were. He's linked to possible deaths in Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, and Texas. Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So this is kind of an ongoing thing, so it's gonna be kind of one of those things that more is gonna leak out as we go, but it's crazy. So we'll definitely be on the lookout for that one. And I think the only other thing that's been happening lately is that Chris Watts, the guy who killed his wife and his children and then blamed it on his wife because she's dead and can't defend herself.

[A]

He's the male version of a cunt.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. And now his mother is coming out and saying that the wife killed the kids. Baby couldn't have killed his whole family. And it's like, that's exactly why your son is the way he is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because his whole life, his mother probably bailed him out of all his everything. It's like, nope, you need to look in the mirror and know that your son is a monster who annihilated his entire family and his pregnant wife because he had a mistress.

[A]

And how do you say that about somebody that's dead? Like, oh, no, they killed all the kids.

[B]

It's like, you know, it just makes what happened. That case makes me nuts. But yeah, so that's, I think that's all the stuff we have to catch up on.

[A]

The case that we're talking about this week is like one of my favorites.

[B]

It is, it's such a good one.

[A]

I heard this case when I first started listening to my favorite murder. And I was in my car driving to work on the edge of my seat.

[B]

Oh yeah, it's insane. Like there's. I'm sure you guys have all heard of the show I Survived. It's so good. It's so binge worthy. Like, but it's stress. It's very heavy. There's a lot of heavy and I

[A]

can't watch it like live.

[B]

Yeah, it's hard to record it. Me too. Cuz I need to take a break

[A]

and I have to fast forward through the commercials.

[B]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[A]

Like they keep you on such a. Oh my God.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz you know, you're like, I know they're going to survive, but I need to know how. How did you know? And this one in particular, I still to. I at this moment, I still cannot understand how she got out of this situation. Oh, and I mentioned, I mentioned I survived because there was an episode about Mary and Vincent. So yeah, go check it out because it's a really good episode. Listen to this first though. Keep listening, please. So let's dive in. September 29th, 1978. Again the 70s, man. Damn 70s. Mary Vincent was a 15 year old girl living in Las Vegas. She, from all accounts, it seems like she kind of had a troubled home life. I don't think there was anything, no excuse, I shouldn't say. I don't think there's not a lot known about her home life growing up.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I know she was in a military family. She probably moved a lot at 15. She was kind of at odds with her parents. And from what I read, it seems like she ran away from home this day and she was going to be run. Running away to California at 15, which is like so young to me. It's like I think of me when I was 15 and like I can't even.

[A]

Yo, sorry mom. But I was about to run away from home at 15. There's been plenty of times where I was like, I could run away.

[B]

I could run away. 15 is a is. And you know what? 15 is a shitty age.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

Like I don't know anyone who's like, you know what? 15 was a great year for me. I had everything going on I had it all figured out.

[A]

They should have a Show that's like 15. I survived.

[B]

I survived 15, because it really is that bad. It is like, 15 for me was absolute.

[A]

Yeah, same.

[B]

So thanks. High school bullies or junior high bullies. So, yeah. So she was living in Las Vegas on this day. She was hitchhiking from Berkeley, which was her uncle's house in California.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And she was hitchhiking to her grandfather's, which was somewhere near Los Angeles. I'm not sure exactly where. I also don't know California that well. Sorry. California.

[A]

I was listening to California Love on the way here.

[B]

Of course you were.

[A]

California Love.

[B]

Of course you were. Or is it Rip or is he living somewhere?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Yeah, I know. I love that conspiracy theory, though, actually.

[A]

Shout out to the last podcast on the left. Just for, like, a quick little break. I was like. I couldn't stop listening.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I honestly, I love last podcast on the left. Every case that they have covered, they have covered so well. Like, they just did. I'm just gonna plug them like. Like they need it. But whatever. They just did the West Memphis three, which we will cover at some point, but that's going to be a very long, very research heavy case.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They did it in, like, three episodes, and they did it so well because you feel like you know everything about that case, but they did it, and you felt like you learned more. Yeah. So shout out to them. So on this night, on this day that she was hitchhiking, she was standing on the side of the road with two other hitchhikers. They didn't know each other. They were just all hitchhiking somewhere. They all had signs saying where they wanted to go. Now, this is when Lawrence Singleton Larry pulled up in a blue van. Mary described him as looking like a friendly grandfather type. Like, she was like, he's older. He looks like he could be my grandfather. And he was old enough to be her grandfather. So she felt immediately, like, comfortable, which is not a good thing. Also, apparently he was wearing blue overalls. And, like, here's the thing about old dudes in overalls.

[A]

Don't trust them.

[B]

Well, especially you generally get two kinds of old dudes wearing overalls. Either sweet farmer types who just want to tell you the best way to get the beefiest tomato crops, or hillbilly mutants who think you look like their sister hillbilly mutants. So. So no bueno.

[A]

Overalls are a no.

[B]

Yeah. Don't get in the car with someone who has overalls. Like, sorry, everybody who wears Overalls. I want a pair of overalls. But don't get in the car with me. No, like, just don't do it.

[A]

Too much room for comfortability.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. So Larry was like, I only have room for one of you in here. Meanwhile, he had a van, which is

[A]

low key alarm or excuse me, high key alarming.

[B]

Yeah, like that's a, that's a red flag.

[A]

Sir, you've got a van.

[B]

Sir, you have a van.

[A]

I don't know if you know what you're driving, but it's called a van.

[B]

I have, I'm small, I don't need a lot of room. So already these, these people with her were like, yeah, maybe you shouldn't go with him. And she was like, yo, I gotta get to my grandfather's. She was tired. She had been like, you know, she'd been moving.

[A]

Moving.

[B]

Yeah. And she, she was just like, I'm over this. I just want to get to my grandfather's house. So Larry was a 51 year old former merchant marine at the time. He had just been divorced from his second wife and had a teenage daughter that was also 15 at the time. He told Mary this immediately. He was like, I have a daughter your age who reminds me of you.

[A]

Okay, chill.

[B]

And this further cemented his, like, nice old, you know, older man. He's a father. Like he has a kid my age and that's exactly what he wanted. So he told her he wasn't going to Los Angeles, but would happily take a detour to bring her there. He offered to drive her to Interstate 5, which is the fastest route south. And she was so desperate that she was like, yep, I'll just get in, we'll do this. So she got in the car. Now, she said it was pretty uneventful for the most part in the car until obviously a big event happened. But at one point she lit a cigarette and she sneezed. And he immediately reached out to feel her neck and asked if she was sick. Like he felt her, like, gland. And she was like. And that fucked her. She was like, nope, don't touch me. Like, that's weird that you just felt like you could touch my neck. And she said it made her comfort, like uncomfortable. Like that weirded me out. But she ended. Nothing else really happened after that right away. So she ended up nodding off and falling asleep.

[A]

Don't fall asleep if you're hitchhiking.

[B]

Yeah. In the 70s, this was totally acceptable. Everyone was hitchhiking, which I think we learned now that that was a bad idea because a lot of these people ended up dead. But now definitely don't hitchhik.

[A]

Rules of hitchhiking. One, don't. Two, don't fall asleep. Yeah, I'm sure we'll come up with more.

[B]

Exactly. So she ended up falling asleep. When she woke up, she noticed that they were not going to LA as promised, but instead, we're going east toward Modesto. So immediately she started to panic. She saw that there was a stick or like, a. Like a little yardstick or a surveyor stick on the floor of the van. So she grabbed it, held it out, and demanded. She was like, where? What the fuck? You're supposed to be taking me to Los Angeles.

[A]

This makes my stomach hurt.

[B]

So he was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And he said. He said, I am an honest man, and it was an honest mistake. I'm so sorry.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

So he was like, you know what? I'm gonna take you there. I'm really sorry. I just wasn't paying attention. And she was like, okay, well, fucking take me there. So he was like, all right, let's pull over quickly so I can relieve myself, and then we'll be on our way. So they pulled over. He gets out of the car, and he goes somewhere to piss. She gets out of the car to stretch her legs, and she said she reached down to tie her shoes, and that's when Larry snuck up behind her and hit her in the head with a hammer.

[A]

Dear God. First of all, how did she even survive that?

[B]

Exactly. And she immediately went out, like, unconscious. When she woke up, she was completely naked and tied up. Oh, my God, I hate this. Right away, after waking up, he forced her to perform sexual acts on him. He also said something really disgusting as he was doing this that I'm not going to repeat because it stresses me out too much. But he was gross. He was a pig. He, like, shoved himself in her mouth, basically. He then raped her and sodomized her. He then threw her in the back of the van, drove to another secluded area, and repeatedly raped her again. She recalls at least six to eight times that he raped her. And she said it hurt a lot the entire time.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

During this, he also made her drink some weird, unknown substance from a plastic jug that she assumes is alcohol, but she said it made her pass out, so it could have been anything. She passed out several times, and when she woke up, at one point, he had thrown her onto the ground on the side of the road and forced her to lay down. Now she's naked, completely naked and tied up she started begging him to set her free because she was like, what's going to happen next? He said, quote, you want to be set free, I'll set you free. Then he went to the van, grabbed a hatchet, and returned back to her. He, he then held her down as she fucking fought and scream and chopped her right arm off. He then hacked at her left arm until it was severed just below the elbow. Oh, my God. It took three strokes of the hatchet to sever that arm off. He cut both her fucking arms off while she was conscious with it, the whole thing. Fighting the whole time. Fucking hacked her arms off of her body.

[A]

Like, what a sick.

[B]

That is some.

[A]

And like, what does that mean? Like, oh, I'll set you free by chopping your arms.

[B]

Yeah, he's literally, because. And you'll hear, he says it again. So, like, he's having to hold this poor nude woman down while she's screaming and crying and he's hacking her arms. Like, that is. That's beyond my comprehension. Like, who does that? Yeah. So she fell on her onto her back after this, obviously, because he was like holding her up, hacking at her arms. And she said she caught a glimpse of him like twisting and shaking his arm. And what was happening was her arm was still attached to his arm and he was trying to fling it off. Yeah. He then rolled her down a 30 foot embankment and stuffed her into a cement drainage pipe. When he left, he said, okay, now you're free. And this place turned out to be Del Puerto Canyon, which I'm not familiar with, but know this, I'm sure Californians will know. So, yeah, he leaves and says, okay, now you're free.

[A]

I'd be like.

[B]

So I think to him, he was like, oh, you want to be free? I'll untie you and I'll leave you here and you can get out if you want. Like, I think to him, he was like, you're going to die, but, like, you're free. Like, good luck. What is it?

[A]

Like, what the is wrong with you, dude?

[B]

Blew my mind.

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[A]

Don't second guess yourself girl.

[B]

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[A]

Don't talk about it, be about it.

[B]

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[B]

So he immediately, obviously he thinks she's dead. She's been wailed on the head, she's been repeatedly raped and she's had her arms chopped off and she's gonna bleed out and die. And she's also been rolled down a 30 foot embankment like that. There's so much here. So he left her alone to die and spend that she survives. Yeah, just keep that in mind. She comes out of this, she is kicking, breathing, thriving.

[A]

Today she's a bad.

[B]

So at this point she was like, okay, I could die here or I could fight and stop. In her mind, she said, I can stop him from doing this to someone else. Good for her. That was her thought process, was, I can't let him do this to someone else.

[A]

How do you have that coherent thought process when somebody just shot your arms

[B]

off and it's like fight or flight. And she chose fucking fight. So at this moment she was like, I need to, I need to stay awake. So she forced herself to stay awake because if she allowed herself to pass out, she would just bleed it up. She would just fall asleep and never wake up. Now think of all those times you've just been sitting on the couch and you hit that wall of Exhaustion all of a sudden. And you can barely keep your eyes open. Now think of that. But your arms have been chopped off. You've been force fed some kind of weird alcoholic substance. And you've been hit in the head with a hammer and raped repeatedly. How, I don't even know. Like, I never want to say. I'm tired.

[A]

Mary's like, fuck you.

[B]

Yeah, literally. So she forced herself to stay awake and she said, quote, he threw me off a cliff. I should have broken bones, I should have bled to death. I didn't. And I never passed out. I remember everything. I wanted to give up and go to sleep, but I felt someone there with me. A presence who wanted me to survive. A voice told me to get up and, and get help or someone else would die.

[A]

Wow, girl, I got chills.

[B]

I can't. She's. Oh, Mary, Mary. Like, I just can't even marry Mary Quake Contrary. Oh, you are just. I don't know how you did this, man. So she ended up losing 50% of her body's blood supply. How did she.

[A]

How did she not pass the out?

[B]

Cuz she's a warrior. To stop it from getting worse, she packed her arms with mud to cut off the flow of blood.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

First of all, I would. I am 33 years old almost and I work in the medical field and I don't think that would immediately be my. Like, I need to pack these severed arms with blood. She was 15 years old.

[A]

And how did you do that with both of your. Exactly. Like, you didn't even have to pack with.

[B]

There's just so much about this that I'm like, who are you? What are you? What kind? Like, we don't deserve you, Mary. So she walked herself up the 30 foot cliff. She had been rolled down. Without arms. Like, think about that for a second. How hard that would be to do with arms walking up a 30 foot cliff.

[A]

Never mind without arms.

[B]

It took her hours and hours and hours of fighting up this hill with only 50% of her body's blood and a head wound. Jesus Christ. And she said it took all day, like a full day to get up that 30 foot cliff. I believe it. So she finally reached the. Because she said she could hear the freeway above. She just wanted to get there. She's like, I just gotta get there. So she finally reaches the freeway and ended up walking for three more miles before seeing a car. Finally, it was a convertible with two men in it. They pulled over like a little bit, but once they saw her, they sped off and I mean, she Was nude. She was completely battered. She had no fucking arms.

[A]

They probably didn't even think it was real.

[B]

And was bleeding profusely. That's horror movie shit like that. And she says to this day, she said she can totally understand why they were terrified and spread off. Like, she was like, I do not hold that against, like. So she said at the time, she was holding up what was left of her arms in the air, so, quote, the muscles and blood wouldn't fall out. Wow. So she was holding her, like, what's left of her arms up in the air. Now, luckily, a couple who were tourists and had, like, taken a wrong turn. Like, what a wrong turn?

[A]

Weren't they on their honeymoon or something?

[B]

I think they were.

[A]

I think they were.

[B]

I've read that a couple of times. Yeah. So they might have been on their honeymoon. I think they picked her up and they immediately wrapped her in linens from their car before driving her to a Nearby Airport and calling 91 1. Now, I mean, because it was the 70s, they didn't have a cell phone, so they had to drive to a phone. All she could say was, quote, he raped me over and over again. Oh, my God. She went by helicopter to the hospital. And at the hospital, like, she just continues to be like a fucking warrior. She gets to the hospital, and she doesn't sit there and be like, all right, now, I'm going to take a break and, like, rest my. My weary soul right now. She was like, nope, I can describe this motherfucker to an absolute fucking T. Let me give you it. So she can. Described him so perfectly that the composite sketch of him was like, a photo. They said, we'll post it. Yeah. It was immediately released to the media, and Larry's own neighbor, who was his friend, like, was a friend of his, saw it and was like, whoa, that Larry. And they called and told the police, I know who that is. And it was their friend. That's how clear it was, though. They were like, that's Larry. That's insane. Mary also picked his picture out of six others before the grand jury at one point. Wow. So in 1979, he went. So they picked him up. There's not a lot of, like, how they found him. She knew who he was. She picked him up.

[A]

Look at this.

[B]

That's. That's a dude. Oh, he dead now. So that's.

[A]

Looks like a penis.

[B]

Yeah. His nose is a lot. So in 1979, he went to court, and Mary testified against him. After all, she went to at 15 years old.

[A]

That is insane.

[B]

Badass. Mary stood up in front of the court, pointed one of her hooked prosthetic arms at him, and she was like, that's him. And she will, to this day, she will only refer to him as, quote, my attacker. She won't refer to him as.

[A]

He doesn't deserve.

[B]

No, he doesn't. So Larry said he was drunk that night and described Mary as, quote, a ten dollar. What the. Yeah. He also claimed that the two other hitchhikers were in the van as well, including another Larry. So he said if anything happened to Mary in his van and the blood and other physical evidence presented at trial proved that it did, then he said the crimes must have been committed by, quote, the other Larry. Yeah. So he insisted on being framed. Later, when he became a little more forthcoming, he mentioned that he had cut off her hands because he wanted to remove the id. Yeah, dental records are a thing, you ten dollar dumbass. But after testifying, Mary quickly left the courtroom. And she did this because Larry made a very quiet comment to her and she just rushed out of the courtroom. Later, he admitted what he said to her. I remember he told her, quote, I'll finish this job if it takes me the rest of my life. Like, oh, fuck. Like, are you kidding? Like, can you fudgeing? Imagine that after all you've gone through? This dude's like, I'm going to finish this. Like, fuck.

[A]

I'd be like, I'll finish you, sir.

[B]

She was obviously fucking terrified. Afterwards, her parents came to get her, but in. But she said they were kind of like, they couldn't really help. Like, they didn't have the relationship that needed. That they needed to help her. Yeah. They said, she said she ran away

[A]

in the first place.

[B]

Yeah. And she said, quote, they couldn't handle it. They took it harder than me. I'm telling them, I need you. But they couldn't do it. They were more interested in what they felt about what happened to me than what I felt. So Larry ended up being convicted of a whopping number of charges. Attempted murder, kidnapping, rape, sodomy, oral copulation, aggravated mayhem, and the use of an ax to cause great bodily harm. Now, at the time, he got the max sentence for this, which was only 14 years in prison.

[A]

I'll leave.

[B]

Like, are you kidding me right now? Well, it gets worse.

[A]

All those charges and you get 14 years.

[B]

Like, what the. All those, like, terrifying charges. Chopped somebody's arms off, attempted murder. Like, it's insane. He thought she was dead. He left there thinking she was dead, she was going to die. Well, it Gets worse. He only served eight years out of that because he got off on good behavior. Okay, Good behavior.

[A]

You chopped somebody's arms off.

[B]

Exactly. It's like, I don't give a shit if you always, you know, keep your cell clean and always say please and thank you to the prison guards. I don't give a. You tried to literally raped somebody repeatedly and tried to chop their arm and try and chop their arms up, and

[A]

then said it was the other Lawrence.

[B]

Yeah, poor other Larry. That probably doesn't exist. Well, it gets even worse. When he got out, he immediately tried to sue Mary.

[A]

For what?

[B]

So while in jail, he said, and this is the way it gets funny, he said he considered the alleged events, and he was like, nope, I didn't do that. Oh, my God. He said he remembers Mary threatening to accuse him of rape and that she had brandished a song stick at him. He said that's why he became violent. So he filed a complaint suing Mary for, quote, forcible kidnap for the purposes of robbery.

[A]

Are you kidding me?

[B]

Luckily, the courts dismissed it.

[A]

They're like, yeah.

[B]

They were like, you're a. So after he got out of jail after eight years, Eight years later, like, goodbye. Like, she's barely even beginning to cope with this at this point, so. Well, she said she was afraid to stay in one place for too long. She went through a series of bodyguards, and she ended up living in a deserted gas station at one point.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

Yeah. Like, she really, like, went down a bad path. She said she was depressed. She had crazy anxiety.

[A]

Of course she did.

[B]

Her relationship suffered. I mean, with family, friends, like, romantic relationships. Like, it was a really dark time. She eventually had two sons of her own. And in her words, quote, when I became a mother, I really had something big to live for. And she says there, like, what got her. You know what? I love it. I mean, his release was controversial, obviously, to Mary, but it was controversial to everyone because it was like any.

[A]

Nobody wanted him to live anywhere.

[B]

Yeah, well, it was bonkers because, I mean, that's eight years. And his own daughter didn't want him loose. Wow. So his own daughter said that he had attacked and abused her and her mother. And in fact, her mother once told her that she was surprised that she had been born without complications because Larry had beat her, her mother, while she was pregnant with her.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah. So when. When she found out that he was getting out of jail, she also fled and hid. Like, that's what I would do. Mary did. She asked law enforcement if there was Any way they could keep him behind bars?

[A]

Like, what, the Florida?

[B]

Yeah. And she recently. Well, this wasn't. This wasn't in Florida.

[A]

Oh, I thought it was.

[B]

No, this was in California. Oh, but didn't he. I think he ended. He goes to Florida. Yeah, we're going to get to that. What, the California. So his daughter, who I won't name because I don't know if she wants her name out there. She recently spoke to a woman who runs the site Family Arrested.com, which helps family members of, like, shitty people who have done awful things cope with their own, like, victimhood.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure you.

[B]

Because it's such a. It's such a unique experience to be, like, the daughter of a monster or a sister, the spouse and the mother, you know. So she had this to say to this woman about her father. It's a big, long quote. Six years into my father's sentence, I knew he was getting out early as an ideal in my inmate. So in 1984, when I was 21, three years prior to his proposed parole, I called the California prison where he was saying. And it was St. Louis Obiscopos, California Colony for Men. I told whoever I talked to I wasn't sophisticated enough then to take names or notes that I was afraid my father remained a threat to my safety and was, in general, still dangerous. When I was 21, I quickly made several changes to my life. I graduated from college with my first degree. I changed my last name legally. I moved from Nevada to California, then moved back to Nevada to marry my college boyfriend. When I left Reno, I told anyone who my father might possibly contact to try to find me, to tell him, I quote, flaked out or something, got married to someone they didn't know, and left town. I gave them a PO box so we could stay in touch. I realize how naive this sounds today as I write this, but I was concerned he might hurt or harass them. When I was about 20 years old, with the assistance of a PhD psychology intern, I had written a letter to my father telling him I was terminating our relationship. I asked California prison personnel what could be done to keep him in longer, and I was told there was nothing. They suggested I obtain a restraining order at the time of his release. Sorry, but I mean this quite sarcastically. I tell you he is a danger. I said that before the first crime. I've changed my name multiple times and am moving across state lines, and you all suggest a piece of paper that will tell him exactly where I am, what my name is, and not to come within, say, 300ft above me. The neighbor woman who I had moved in with and lived with from about age 15 and a half until I was 18, had discouraged me both from terminating the relationship and from considering changing my name. She told me it was my, quote, responsibility to, I don't know, not hide. I then and now wonder if she was not motivated by fear of my father.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

That's his own daughter.

[A]

I've said that so many times. But, like, it is, is so insane.

[B]

And that's, it's like that's his daughter.

[A]

She was always like, so afraid. I mean, she obviously was so afraid of him.

[B]

Like, oh yeah. And to hear that he not only abused her, but abused her mother too, before she was born and while she was gestating, like, that's insane. Like, I would say that it takes

[A]

like a, like super f Cked up person to like hurt a pregnant person, but this guy literally chopped somebody's arms off.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like he's, he has no low. He doesn't. I don't know where he would have. It's. It's shocking that he didn't start earlier and didn't rack up a higher.

[A]

I sincerely hope that, like, there is a hell just for people like this.

[B]

Yeah, just something, something like that.

[A]

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[B]

Well, obviously his, his daughter was very right to be concerned because when he got out, when he was paroled, California was like, nope, we don't want him. So they pro. They protested to not allow him to move into their communities. Literally, one California community after another told parole officials that they could not relocate him there.

[A]

Good.

[B]

He was finally forced to live in a mobile home on the grounds of San Quentin Prison until the end of his parole in 1988. So wherever he was going next, he had to register, which he went to Florida. So he had to register with the state of Florida as a convicted felon. His move to Florida, where he was originally from, was not smooth. He was one of eight kids in his family originally, and that's where he was from, like I said. So he had a lot of siblings living in California or Florida still. And at first he moved into his brother's home, which soon became a target for people who were like, this is a fucking crazy person. Why is he coming into our community? They had a firebomb tossed into their front yard.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Protesters showed up at court hearings where he appeared because he ended up having some. I think it was like shoplifting charges in Florida because he just kept being a fuckhead, of course. So whenever he would go to court hearings for that, protesters would show up. Because I think between 1990 and 1991, he was arrested three times, shoplifting. one hearing for these, he described himself as, quote, a confused, muddle headed. Muddle headed old man. Yeah, like, I love how he's just like, I'm just confused. You don't seem confused.

[A]

You just seem like a giant.

[B]

So after living with his brother, his brother was like, yo, you gotta get out of here because this firebomb's being tossed into my yard. So he moved into another home that was owned by his family in Orient park in Tampa. His new neighbors thought he was a great guy.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Yeah. His next door neighbor at the time, Tom Bennett, said, quote, we were scared of him at first, but every day he'd talk to you. He'd cook steaks and bring them to you. Don't eat those. He fixed up his property really good. He was the neighbor you dream of. I started to believe him. Maybe he was framed.

[A]

No, he wasn't.

[B]

No. Well, they find out that he wasn't. So he. I mean, he lived alone. He spent most of his time just remodeling his house and landscaping his property. Several of his brothers and their wives visited often. He had a dog named Kala, who was a Rottweiler that he apparently loved. They said he was also solicitous, offering to repair a neighbor's broken mailbox. One day he would go to see his neighbors, like, bands play at bar. Like, he was very much in the neighborhood, like, a part. He was like one of those neighbors that's like in with everybody. He was a townie. Yeah, exactly. Which is crazy. So some of the neighbors knew his, the con, the whole Mary Vincent thing, but some didn't. The ones who did were just, like, forgiving eventually, which is crazy to me. I would insane. I just wouldn't be.

[A]

If you chop off somebody's arms, you're just not good in my book.

[B]

No, it's like, I just can't. I can't be like, well, maybe he was frantic. Like, no, that's too much. No. So one of his other neighbors said, quote, we didn't like the idea that something had happened. Like, what? But you can't make a big thing about it if you want to give people a chance.

[A]

Yeah, I don't want to give that many people.

[B]

I love that. They're just like, we don't like that something happened. Oh, something happened. He fucking. Blunt force trauma, brutally raped, chopped arms off and threw a woman off a cliff. Something happened.

[A]

That's. That's not really like just casual.

[B]

It's just like, you know, we don't love that about him, but we're gonna give him a chance. I don't know. I feel like it's like when somebody's like, yeah, I've been arrested for shoplifting quite a bit. You're like, ah, right. I don't like that that happens.

[A]

Don't come to my house, please.

[B]

Yeah, like, don't come around my valuables. But like, I don't like it, but we'll give you a chance. Yeah, this not so much. So this is interesting. Three weeks before, he ended up being arrested in Florida for something we will talk about in a moment. Neighbors had to save him from his van because he attempted suicide in his driveway. His neighbors said he was found breathing the van's exhaust through a dryer hose that he had attached to the tailpipe. After this, he spent About a week in a psychiatric ward before returning back to his home. Tom Bennett, his neighbor, that said before, like, we were scared, but he was good. And he cooked steaks. He was great. He said, quote, he told me he was feeling sorry for himself, but he didn't give any more explanation.

[A]

Why the are you feeling sorry for yourself? Why don't you feel sorry for the girl whose arms you cut off?

[B]

Exactly? Well, about 6pm on a Wednesday night in February 1997, Hillsborough County Sheriff's official said a man who had done some renovation work for Larry dropped by his house and heard what you might say is a commotion inside. Oh. So he was like, what the going on? So he peered in through a window and he saw Larry butt ass naked in the living room, choking and punching a woman and stabbing her repeatedly. The woman was nude and on the couch and was screaming for help. Jesus Christ. And he would. They said he was like maniacally just stabbing at her and like. And punching her and.

[A]

Believable.

[B]

Yeah. A deputy who responded to the 911 call says Larry answered the door completely covered in blood.

[A]

And he's just like, hey, what's up?

[B]

Yeah. He was just like, oh, hey. And the woman was dead. The victim was identified as Roxanne Hayes. She was a 31 year old sex worker and a Tampa resident and mother of three. Oh, my God, that's awful. Nobody knows exactly, you know, what the whole scenario was, if she was there for some other reason or if she was like, there on business purposes. Either way, it's awful. So the state of Florida flew Mary down for this trial.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[B]

Because she didn't have to testify, but she was like, oh, I' ma testify. Which is like, oh, my God, by

[A]

the way, Lawrence, I' ma finish. Yeah.

[B]

Like, don't worry.

[A]

She's like, you thought you were about to finish something crazy.

[B]

So she didn't flinch when they asked to identify him. And she said she. She didn't dare take a deep look either. She was like, I don't. She said, quote, I wanted to see his eyes. Eyes are important. When he was on top of me, attacking me, I was looking at the ax, trying to stay alive. I asked later if I could look at him in the eye, but it didn't happen. Which is like, oh, it's like just so. So up now. This time he was convicted of murder and sentenced to deaths.

[A]

Good die.

[B]

Unfortunately, he died in 2001 on death row of cancer at age 74, which is a bummer.

[A]

Yeah. I wish that he actually got to Be.

[B]

I hope he suffered. Yeah.

[A]

Do you know what kind of cancer he had?

[B]

No, I don't. I tried to look it up, but I couldn't find it.

[A]

I hope it was the worst one. I hope it was penis cancer.

[B]

You know, penis cancer. I don't know that particular one.

[A]

I hope he had it. Yeah, you get for raping people.

[B]

Yeah. I hope he just had all the cancers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the prosecutor, Donald and Stahl, who is now retired, but he said, quote, I'm not going to say he's Hannibal Lecter, but once a guy like that has a certain bend, he follows it for the rest of his life. This guy has a personality that's bent in the direction of going after women. So this case actually helped Donald Stahl, the prosecutor, get legislation, legislation in front of the people it needs to get in front of that would make mandatory terms for most violent crimes. And as a result, they can now say that at this time, the. That he did to Mary Vincent would result in a life sentence. Like, that would not happen again the way it happened. Because they're like. They're like, look, we gave him 14 years, which is nothing, and then he got out in eight and he immediately killed someone else. Right. Like, this is ridiculous. Yeah. So one of his neighbors said, quote, when I found out about what he had done, the first thing I thought was, should I have left that man in that van that day? If I had known, I probably would have at least given it a second thought. Yeah, you should have, because that's the other thing. It's like, now all these neighbors who, like, rushed to help this guy were like, we saved his life and he went on and killed someone.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I don't blame them for being like, should I have fucking left him in his van?

[A]

Who knows if he, like, killed somebody else and that's. That's why he exactly kill himself, to

[B]

get away with it. I mean, we don't know DNA, it's in the 70s. It's so hard to pin on.

[A]

I'm sure this guy killed other people.

[B]

He could have done stuff before Mary. He could have done stuff, you know, in between. It's just crazy. So as for Mary, who is the real star of this whole thing, she says that she still has a lot of nightmares. She's still afraid to go to sleep and can't sleep for very long. When she. When she actually does, she says, quote, I've broken bones thanks to my nightmares. I've jumped up and dislocated my shoulder just trying to get out of bed. I'VE cracked ribs and smashed my nose. Every day I pray to God to make a space I can breathe in. And every day God gives it to me. And she's now an artist. She doesn't have arms and she's a artist.

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Oh, my God.

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And this is a skill that she said she just happened after this whole thing. She said she couldn't draw a straight line before this.

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That's a miracle.

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Which is insane.

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So she. Does she draw with, like, prosthetics?

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Yeah, like, she uses her prosthetic hooks. And that's the other thing. She's like a tinkerer. So she makes her own prosthetics to, like, work with what she wants to do. Wow. Yeah. She said, and this. I love this. She says she has entered the third phase of this whole ordeal. Now she says first she was a victim, then a survivor, and now she's an artist, which I love. I love that. And as an artist, she focuses on. She says she focuses on powerfully upbeat women. She uses chalk, pastels, and she works in a vein that kind of blends like the Vargas pinup girl style. And she creates her own basically, like, femme fatale action figures, which is. I just think it's so badass.

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That is.

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And. Oh, yeah. So like I said, she's like a tinkerer, and she makes her own shit. She uses spare parts from broken down refrigerators and old stereo systems to modify them. Like, her prosthetics to be what she needs them. Like, the fingers turn in all directions, like. And she does it herself. She said, quote, I like to tinker. So did my grandfather. He was an artist too. I guess I get it from him. There's all this stuff in the world that's been discarded. If you keep working with it, it will work with you. Which I'm like, I love that. And she. She started the Mary Vincent foundation to advocate for teenage victims of sexual assault. Yeah. And she. And I'll just end this with a quote from her. She said, quote, I've never indulged myself in anger and hate. I wouldn't be here if I had.

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That is so big of her. Because I would be the most angry, hateful person if this happened.

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That's the thing. It's like, how do you. You not come out of that with so much hate, anger, just bitterness, like, just so paranoid of everything, which I know she probably was. Is paranoid at times. But, like, for her to come out and just be like, nope, like, I'm not gonna.

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She just is living her life like, the best that she can.

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And it's like.

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And she's in a pretty remarkable way.

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And she must be so annoyed that it's like they gave him such a lenient sentence and he went out and killed a woman.

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Well, because that was her main thing that she, like, went to trial for

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so that he wouldn't do it again. Exactly. And that's the whole reason she survived. Her whole mindset was, I have to survive so he doesn't do this to someone else. And then the system let it happen again after she survived all that and, like, used every fiber and cell in her body to survive that whole thing. Just so not for herself, but for her. Him not to do this for someone else. The system allowed him to just walk out and do it again. So messed up. And it's like the poor family of, you know, Roxanne, this could have been avoided. This dude shouldn't have been out in the. Yeah. Her three children. It's like, this dude shouldn't have been out loose. And I'm sure his neighbors. Because I know. I read a lot about his neighbors being like, this dude should not have been allowed to live near us like this. Into interact with us and become part of us. Like, this is crazy. I'm so glad that this case, which is. I mean, this is all like, because of Mary. Like, that this case changed things so that this kind of attack is not seen as something that you get a max of 14 years and serve 8 years for. You know, like, now you're getting life for this kind of. Because if you're capable of doing this, you're not going to be rehabilitated. It's just not something that's going to happen. No.

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No.

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So.

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No.

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It makes so much sense. It's like that and pedophilia. Pedophilia. You can't rehabilitate it. No. Like, those people need to be, like, away from the rest of society. And I've no qualms saying that. No, it's true. But yeah. So that is the bonkers story of Mary Vincent. That is. I can't even. The patron saint of badass. Like, she needs her own. You know those true crime candles.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[B]

Which also, like, someday I hope our faces are in one of those. That's like my goal. That's the goal. That's the dream. Oh, my God. Like just putting that out there. True crime candles. Someday, Someday. Someday we'll earn it. Someday. But she needs to be on one of those.

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Picturing one.

[B]

But you have a duck face. No, I wouldn't I? But Mary Vincent needs to be one of those.

[A]

Yeah, she does. Like, she needs an I survived candle.

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She needs to, like, she. It needs to be a candle that's like the patron saint of badassery. I want that.

[A]

I'd buy.

[B]

Yeah, I want that.

[A]

I'd buy that for a lot of money.

[B]

That's just our little, you know, pitch true crime candles. So. Yeah, so that was. At least. That one was a good one. It had. It had a real bummer in the beginning. It had a real bummer in the middle. But, like, you know, in the end he died. At least he's dead.

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And Mary's a beautiful artist. Yeah.

[B]

And Mary's just this beautiful wildflower just floating through and she is thriving. So that's a great one and we hope you enjoyed that one. We'll do some more of these, like, fun survival ones sprinkled in every now and then. Because they're nice. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it definitely gives the grizzly, but like, it's nice to have that every once in a while to have an end that's like. Yeah. All right, so we hope you guys enjoyed this. Like I said, we want to start getting out some more content. We just have to kind of like make it work for us. But I promise we have so many cases we want to get to, so we really do want to just give you as much as we can. Eventually we'll try to do two a week. We're definitely going to try to do that. I think we can make it work sooner than later. We just kind of have to. We'll get it. We'll get. We'll buckle it up. We'll. We'll figure it out because I know you guys will be psyched to get more. So we want to give you that because you're so amazing and. Yeah. So we'll do another bonus episode very shortly. I think we. In fact, I know we are gonna hit House of a Thousand Corpses because I'm very excited to show Ash that for the first time and that I love doing that. I love giving you like a first. A first run.

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Yeah.

[B]

It was like Freddy versus My whole life. So I love it. I love being the one to introduce you to this, like, up.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

So we'll do House of a Thousand Corpses. Our next case is not going to be a survived one. It's a one that I remember reading about, like, early in my true crime fascination. Not right in the beginning, but it's one that I just remember like, constantly coming up when I was reading so we won't tell you about it yet. We'll get to.

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Yeah, let's do the teasies.

[B]

Yeah, we'll te. We'll tease it out. So we'll see if anybody, any of you true crime aficionados can snag which one it is.

[A]

If you guess, you win.

[B]

Yeah. If you get. You know what? If you guess it right, you want to. We'll give you a sticker.

[A]

Yeah, you get a sticker.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get. If you guess it right, we'll give you a morbid sticker. So we'll put out some teasers and we'll see if anybody can get it.

[A]

The first person to guess it right.

[B]

Yeah. The first person to guess it right. Yeah. Because if everybody just repeats the same one underneath it, we're gonna have like 400 sticker.

[A]

I just realized that.

[B]

Okay, so the first person to get it right will give a sticker to.

[A]

You get a sticker.

[B]

And you, you get a sticker. Everybody gets a sticker.

[A]

Look under your chair.

[B]

There's a sticker there. There's a sticker. Enjoy it. Imagine if that was part of Oprah's like thing when she's like.

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And you get it.

[B]

Look under your chairs. And they were like, it's a sticker. And she was like, it's a sticker. It's just Oprah's face. Thanks, Oprah. So. Yeah. Oh. So make sure you guys rate and review and it really helps us out. And you know, hit that subscribe button. Find us on Instagram at morbid podcast. Email us morbidpodcastgmail.com. we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird.

[A]

You threw in the.

[B]

I did. I felt like I wanted to make it aggressive. Don't just be weird because weird man. And don't sleep on the couch.

[A]

And fresh airs for dead people. And don't hitchhike.

[B]

And don't hitchhike.

[A]

And if you do hitchhike, don't fall asleep.

[B]

Yeah, definitely don't fall asleep. Mary Vincent.

[A]

You the Mary Vincent.

[B]

Mary Vincent. Mary Vincent. Mary Vincent. Mary Vincent. Mary Vincent. Mary Vincent. Mary Vincent. Sam, Based on the best selling book series by Elle Kennedy comes off campus a story of love. Last week you didn't even know her name. Sometimes people sneak up on you friendship. This is the most absolutely unhinged planet. I'm obsessed with it and self discovery on and off the ice. It's scary telling the world something I'm

[A]

not ready for it to know.

[B]

Oh, and it's pretty steamy. This, this is the part where I tell you all the things I want to do to you off campus is now streaming on Prime Video.

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