EP 44 - We Saw Our Babies Before They Were Born… And It Changed Everything

Summary

Podcast Summary: More Than Reality with Adam and Danielle Busby Episode: EP 44 - We Saw Our Babies Before They Were Born… And It Changed Everything
Release Date: August 7, 2025

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1. Introduction and Life Stages

Adam and Danielle Busby kick off Episode 44 with a lighthearted discussion about aging and the different phases of life. They reflect on the transition from their 30s to their early 40s, highlighting how priorities shift as they navigate parenting a large family.

Danielle (02:25): "When you're like 18, you're like, yes, I'm 18. And you're like, oh, I'm 21... And then like you get in your forties, you're like, I'm in my 40s."

2. Balancing Marriage and Parenting

The couple delves into the challenges of maintaining a strong marital relationship amidst the demands of raising eight children. They emphasize the importance of prioritizing time together, even during hectic periods.

Danielle (04:20): "Constantly dating, going on dates, spending time with your spouse is always important."

Adam (04:39): "And our kids know that it's ebbs and flows."

3. Attending a Concert: A Memorable Date Night

Sharing a personal anecdote, Adam and Danielle recount their spontaneous decision to attend a Goo Goo Dolls concert during a stressful moving period. This experience served as a much-needed break and a way to reconnect as a couple.

Adam (05:00): "We forgot about it. He told me, like, weeks ago... And then we forgot about it."

Danielle (07:27): "Sometimes even to go have fun. It's still hard. But I'm glad we took the time out from what we had on our schedule and just said let's do it."

4. Messenger Cup and Faith-Based Initiatives

The Busbys discuss their recent trip to Colorado Springs for the Messenger Cup, a significant event organized by John Bever to fund global evangelistic projects. They highlight the impact of translating and disseminating faith-based materials to reach persecuted Christians worldwide.

Adam (09:33): "They have an app called Messenger X... projects to translate, transcribe, auto dub or audio dub, all of his materials so that it can be spread into every single country, every single language."

5. Expanding Family: Celebrating Blake's Achievements

Highlighting their daughter's accomplishments, Adam and Danielle share the joy of Blake making the tennis team at her new school. They attribute her confidence and social growth to their faith and supportive community.

Danielle (13:44): "She's going to be going into this new school on an athletics team, and she's made friends over the last few weeks."

Adam (15:34): "It's amazing. I mean, it's blessings on blessings."

6. The Experience of Raising Quintuplets: Faith and Life Before Birth

A significant portion of the episode revolves around the Busbys' unique journey of expecting quintuplets. They discuss how viewing their babies through numerous ultrasounds strengthened their belief that life begins at conception, aligning with their Christian faith.

Danielle (24:31): "They're people before they were born."

Adam (28:08): "We felt like we knew them to the point of giving them nicknames... their personalities have carried over to this day."

7. Challenges with Faith and Public Perception

Adam and Danielle candidly address the backlash they've faced for their outspoken faith. They express frustration over being lumped into broader political or social categories, emphasizing their desire for meaningful dialogue and common ground.

Adam (21:51): "Instead of just like, oh, you know, I don't necessarily agree with that... it's not something that do."

Danielle (16:30): "It's just funny because, you know, especially since we've talked, started the podcast and stuff... it's a big part of that is our faith."

8. Concluding Thoughts on Communication and Teamwork

Wrapping up the episode, the Busbys reflect on the importance of communication and teamwork in both their marriage and interactions with others. They advocate for stepping outside personal agendas to foster understanding and collaboration.

Adam (38:36): "You remove that, and you see that we're a team, and we're not just like two individual parents."

Danielle (39:12): "We're seeing things quite differently from our own perspective. So let me see it as you see it so that I can better understand."

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Key Takeaways:

• Faith as a Foundation: Adam and Danielle attribute their resilience and ability to navigate challenges to their strong Christian faith, which guides their family dynamics and personal decisions.

• Importance of Relationships: Maintaining a healthy marital relationship is crucial, even amidst the chaos of a large family. Intentional time together helps preserve their connection.

• Facing Public Scrutiny: The couple experiences frustration over being stereotyped due to their faith and background, emphasizing the need for open and respectful conversations.

• Unique Parenting Journey: Raising the first set of all-female quintuplets in the United States has provided them with profound insights into the sanctity of life and the importance of early development.

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Notable Quotes:

• Danielle (04:20): "Constantly dating, going on dates, spending time with your spouse is always important."
• Adam (21:51): "Instead of just like, oh, you know, I don't necessarily agree with that... it's not something that do."
• Danielle (24:31): "They're people before they were born."

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This episode offers listeners an intimate glimpse into the Busby family's life, exploring the intersections of faith, parenting, and personal growth. Their candid conversations provide both inspiration and relatability for those navigating similar paths.

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[Danielle Busby]

Going on dates, spending time with your spouse is always important. And I feel like we do. Even though it's hard, I feel like we do a pretty good job of making priorities for that.

[Adam Busby]

I do get very annoyed whenever people. Because you're from Texas or because you're a Christian, anybody that's willing to like, actually sit down and actually talk about things, you're gonna find that probably 80% of the things that you talk about, you're gonna find common ground on that. But nobody wants to get to the point of talking anymore. And that's what's so frustrating.

[Danielle Busby]

This is More Than Reality podcast, where we dive into all things faith, family and marriage and share that there is so much more than the reality that you see on the surface. Welcome to More Than Reality with Adam and Danielle Busby.

[Adam Busby]

What's up? Welcome to episode 44.44AMore Than Reality podcast. This is Adam and Danielle Busby and.

[Danielle Busby]

We have done more podcasts than my age.

[Adam Busby]

Oh, yeah, two more, actually.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah, a lot more. Let's just say a lot more.

[Adam Busby]

Hats out of the back. Danielle's 42.

[Danielle Busby]

Am I?

[Adam Busby]

I'm 43. Wait, no, you're 41. You'll be 42 this year.

[Danielle Busby]

Yes.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah, you'll be 42 this year.

[Danielle Busby]

Dude, don't make me age older than I am.

[Adam Busby]

That's just a few months away, babe.

[Danielle Busby]

Like half the year.

[Adam Busby]

No, we're eight months in. This is August.

[Danielle Busby]

Oh, man. Okay, well, you're three months away. Okay, three quarters of the way there. No one likes talking about their age. I think it's funny, like, whenever you're.

[Adam Busby]

Like, you're 41 and three quarters.

[Danielle Busby]

Okay, 41 and three quarters. When you're like 18, you're like, yes, I'm 18. And you're like, oh, I'm 21. And. And then like you get in your forge and you're like, I'm 40. I'm in my 40s. My 40s.

[Adam Busby]

You're over that heel. Yeah, whatever that means.

[Danielle Busby]

But 30s were fun. 30s was like a fun age. Like 20s, you're like trying to figure out life. You have to be an adult. You're over 18, you make decisions, you're college, school, you have jobs, you know, maybe you're getting married. 30 years is like you're in. I feel like 30 is, I felt like, was like the prime of life. Like you're having kids, careers, just starting.

[Adam Busby]

To have kids mostly.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. And then 40s is like.

[Adam Busby]

People have kids later and later.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah, they are, they are. And like 40s, it's. You're like in the heart of life. You know, your kids might be graduating high school like in your 40s and like you're transitioning to single and not single. Like your home changes. Like your kids are growing up and they're moving out of the house to go off.

[Adam Busby]

Empty nesters.

[Danielle Busby]

Empty nesters. That's the word I was looking for. And so I don't know. But then I, you know, know, then I feel like the 50s is going.

[Adam Busby]

To be like life slows down, slows down.

[Danielle Busby]

But then it's like you're back, just you and your spouse.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. I mean, we've talked and we've talked about this before. I mean, a lot of people, you get in that trap of your life revolving around your kids.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. And then you get lost, like when.

[Adam Busby]

They leave and you forget who your spouse is in a sense. Because every single thing in your life revolves around the kids for so many years. And then you become empty nesters and you have to like re learn and reacquaint who each other are and remember what you fell in love with.

[Danielle Busby]

Yes. So constantly dating, going on dates, spending time with your spouse is always important. And I feel like we do, even though it's hard, I feel like we do a pretty good job of making priorities for that. And our kids know that it's ebbs and flows.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah, sure.

[Danielle Busby]

I mean in like the season of like transition and of moving and all the things, it's definitely been harder to have like one on one time. But dude, did we ever talk about that when we went to Goo Goo Dolls?

[Adam Busby]

I don't think we did.

[Danielle Busby]

Oh my gosh. So we went on a date. Literally. It was like the week of moving and packing and all these things. And some friends couldn't go.

[Adam Busby]

It was funny because I mentioned it to Danielle like a few weeks ago and then the day of completely forgot about it. And then my buddy reached out to me and he said, hey, he Bought these tickets a long time ago. Didn't realize that he was going out of town that same night, out of the country, like, to Argentina. And so he's like, I'm not going to be able to use these tickets. I put them up for sale. But they're literally the best of the best tickets. And so I don't know if they're going to get sold or not, because they're literally front and center, front row for the Goo Goo Dolls. And then we forgot about it. He told me, like, weeks ago. Talked about it with Danielle. Man, that'd be super awesome. We love Goo Goo Dolls. And we've listened to him whenever we were dating and all this kind of.

[Danielle Busby]

Stuff, and brings us back to the old days.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. And then he calls me, like, earlier that day, and he's like, hey, forgot all about this, but the concert's tonight. Are y. You still want to go? And I was like, we're in the middle of moving.

[Danielle Busby]

He literally came up to me. I'm literally on the couch. He was like, do you want to go to Goo Goo Dolls concert tonight? I said, oh, my gosh, yes. But I'm so exhausted. No, I can't imagine. Like, but we gotta dress.

[Adam Busby]

We just have to go.

[Danielle Busby]

We need a break. And I was like, you're right. We need a break. Let's do it. And it was so fun.

[Adam Busby]

It was one of the best concerts ever.

[Danielle Busby]

It was awkwardly close to the point.

[Adam Busby]

Where it's very awkward because we were so close. We were like, in the spit zone. Splash zone.

[Danielle Busby]

Yes. It was so good, though.

[Adam Busby]

And you felt obligated to look away.

[Danielle Busby]

If he, like, caught your eye.

[Adam Busby]

Look into his eyes the whole time as he's singing all the songs. Because he's looking. He'll look down at you and kind of, like, smirk or whatever.

[Danielle Busby]

It's like, wow, that's close.

[Adam Busby]

You're like, wow, this is. I've never. I don't think I've ever been to a concert that close. Like, we've had some really good seats at concerts before, but not center of the stage, front row.

[Danielle Busby]

Like, there's no better seat. Right there.

[Adam Busby]

Less than six feet away from the lead singer.

[Danielle Busby]

And yeah, it was more like 4ft. It was like just a little path between. For the security guard. Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

It was like, you're so. You felt so vulnerable.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

You don't have, like, a. A chair to hide behind right in front of you.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

But sometimes, even through the whole time, no matter what.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah, Sometimes even to go have fun. It's still hard. But I'm glad we took the time out from what we had on our schedule and just said let's do it. And we had a lot of fun.

[Adam Busby]

It was awesome night.

[Danielle Busby]

Then Dashboard Confessionals Open, which takes us again back to like dating days and it was just a fun night to like reminisce and. Yeah, lots of old songs and.

[Adam Busby]

And then we had our 19th wedding anniversary which we mentioned that last week that we were going to be going out of town. So this past week, on Tuesday we flew out or Wednesday we flew out to Colorado, to Colorado Springs for the Messenger Cup. And it's a, it's a big event, the 15th year and it's primarily like kind of considered more of their. A fundraiser for John and Lisa Bever. John Bever's company, he is a big evangelist, writes a ton, ton of books. But they have this app and all these resources and training materials on Bible studies and who God is and like all this stuff and he offers that for free on his platform. They have an app called Messenger X but you know, this whole thing was to raise funds and to fund all of the projects, all these projects that he has all over the world, I mean literally every single country, they have projects to translate, transcribe, auto dub or audio dub, all of his materials so that it can be spread into every single country, every single language.

[Danielle Busby]

And so countries that you know, prosecute the Christians and stuff like being able to, you know, have this app and translate where it doesn't look like you're necessarily like opening the Bible and or something like that.

[Adam Busby]

But it's not just the app.

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And they're also, they have like underground printing presses and stuff where they're actually printing the books and the native language to pass out and to give to pastors and church planners and stuff like that to, to just spread the message. Message.

[Danielle Busby]

And anyway, so we went to Colorado Springs for this event weekend or week.

[Adam Busby]

Or whatever, but it was primarily like a golf tournament. Yeah, we were Going to take the.

[Danielle Busby]

Kids like people take their families. But we were like, you know what? We didn't do anything for our anniversary. Let's just go, like, just us. And in between the meeting times, we' go have some fun and you'll golf and I'll hike and we hike together and just had a little getaway in. Not the best of timing, but we made it happen.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

We made it work.

[Adam Busby]

Circling back to focusing on your relationship and stuff so that you actually know who each other are later on in life.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

Whenever you become empty nesters.

[Danielle Busby]

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[Adam Busby]

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[Danielle Busby]

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So we went to Colorado Springs. My parents actually came here because, well, we originally were going to drive them to Louisiana, drop them off, come back, and then fly out the next day. And then we found out Blake was having tennis tryouts for the new school that she's going to be going to. She hasn't even gone to school yet there, but she's trying out for the tennis team, which was.

[Danielle Busby]

I mean, so glad we found that date out. Like.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

Before we left, because that would have been such a fiasco.

[Adam Busby]

But been super proud of her for just, like, putting herself out there and trying and going into, like, a scary situation because it's a school she's never been to, kids she's never played with before, people that she's never met, and she's going out there. She entered a tennis camp for the new school, and then the next week, tryouts, and we found out at the end of the week that she actually made the team, which was super cool. And it was like a big motivation boost for her. She's going to be going into this new school on an athletics team, and she's made friends over the last few weeks, and she's made friends outside of tennis as well, which has been super cool, which is.

[Danielle Busby]

Which is awesome. So I just keep telling her every time that she has, like, this extra boost. Girl, one day you're going to say, thank you, mama and daddy, for following Jesus and. And being obedient because I found my people.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. Yeah. She actually went and had. She went to, like, a shaved ice place earlier today with a few girls that are going to be going to her school.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And so she met some new friends, and so she comes home just, like, excited and.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. Just thankful for people like that that will kind of go above and beyond to, like, help you help your children kind of connect and, like, help you, like, be in the know of, like, this is what's happened in the community. And, you know, you know, a bunch of ninth graders or they're going to do this and that. And so it's just been so helpful because it's been very easy for the quints to just, like, play outside and meet friends.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah, there's like four girls here right now, extra girls on top of our 5, 10 year olds that are just, like, at me every day. I went to work this morning, had a bunch of meetings, got home, and right as I'm pulling in the driveway, Blake's pulling in with her two friends that she went and had snow cones with. And then there's two other girls walking into the yard to go knock on the door to go play with the quints. And it's just. I don't know, I mean, it's. It's amazing. I mean, it's just blessings on blessings and, you know.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. It's like those small. It's like I don't wanna. I don't feel like I need to feel rewarded, but it's like these small. Those small little things, like, just help. No, help us know that being obedient to, like, the path that we are entrusting, like, God's directing us down. It's not always easy. Just those small little things.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

Because I just bring a lot of joy.

[Adam Busby]

Our biggest. Probably one of our biggest worries was just the kids adjusting and the kids meeting people and, you know, and so many people, that's their biggest fear because, you know, you say we're moving, you're moving away from your current friends and stuff like that. And so, you know, that was our fear. And, you know, it's just one of those reassurances that God gives us that you're. You're doing what I want and I'm blessing the situation. And it's just like little. Every single day, it's just like little God winks of someone. I'm taking care of you, and. And they're going to be okay.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. Someone just asked me. What. What? I totally just had, like a brain fart.

[Adam Busby]

Is it because kids are screaming in the background?

[Danielle Busby]

I didn't distract.

[Adam Busby]

Laughing.

[Danielle Busby]

What was I gonna say? I don't remember. It'll come back to me.

[Adam Busby]

That's funny because, like, right as you were coming up with that thought, I heard sound like Ava laughing in the background.

[Danielle Busby]

Anyway, so along. Let me find these notes. Adam gets distracted when he sees me looking at something. He gets distracted. So I'm trying to, like, not look like I'm doing that.

[Adam Busby]

I do think it's funny because, like, you know, especially since we've talked, started the podcast and stuff, and, you know, you do hear a lot of, you know, the real things that we care most about, which, you know, a big part of that. One of the biggest parts of that is our faith. And, you know, you didn't really see a whole lot of that on our TV show, naturally, because it's on a secular television network run by editors that aren't us. And. And so a lot of the. A lot of the conversations, a lot of the answers and stuff that we.

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[Adam Busby]

Give on our television show that do center around our faith would be some of the very first things that get cut out, you know, later on down the road, whenever we actually have our own platform where we're actually talking about the things that we care most about. You know, people are like, oh, I never knew this about y', all, or whatever, good or bad, you know, whether it's positive or negative criticism. But the more that we talk about that, you know, the. It's just funny because you. I mean, trust me, we get tons of positive comments, and we are so grateful for the very positive comments about, you know, just thank you for the encouragement. I'm so glad that you guys are open and willing to talk about these sorts of things.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. And then encouragement to keep doing it, too. You know, we get tons of that. And. And I'd say it's very much needed, for sure. Especially in a season of, like, change. And even though, you know, we love talking about our heart and topics like that, it's still.

[Adam Busby]

And it's not the only thing that.

[Danielle Busby]

We talk about, like, world.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. We talk about real things and things that, you know, impact our family, impact our relationship, impact each other, you know, just personal things that we are just open about. We're. We're pretty open book, especially on the podcast. And. And it's just funny, like, some of the comments. And trust me, I do think it's funny.

[Danielle Busby]

I'm so curious what you're gonna say.

[Adam Busby]

That, you know, people that hear that side of it hear, you know, our faith side of it. It's just odd that it's. You get a visceral response from it, like they're angry about it or, you know, they don't want us talking about it. It's almost more of an encouragement to talk about it. Because if you. Even if you don't agree with it or don't believe what we believe, like, that doesn't mean, you know, you need to be hateful about it or whatever or. I don't know, I'VE just gotten some really off the wall comments or direct messages lately. I'm just like, wow, I don't get that upset about other things that I see on social media whenever it's something that I don't agree with. And. But whenever it's about faith, like, you get a very angry response from people. And like, I've just kind of been pondering along those lines like the last few days. Like why. Because why an angry response?

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

Instead of just like, oh, you know, I don't necessarily agree with that or believe in that or, or I'm still seeking and trying to understand that it's not that it's like all the way on the other side, like just angry about it.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. So they're offended because of something in their past that they possibly have not dealt with that continuously. When they hear something, it triggers the offense from the past.

[Adam Busby]

And it could be, I mean, like, I know a lot of people and I mean, we've had like even church hurt. Church hurt in the past where, you know, things have happened within the church. I mean, obviously people are flawed and people, and it's people, you know, it's not, it's not necessarily Christianity. It's the people hurt you.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And. Or people have manipulated and changed stuff. And you know, just before this, Daniel was talking about like just religion in general and how like religion has like completely perverted, like Christianity and the gospel and the Bible. And you know, and I think that's why, you know, people get so worked up because they try to lump, and especially in the United States, they try to lump Christians with Donald Trump or Christians with the Republican Party. And like, I know many Christians that are Democrats and you know, because they just believe different things and that's okay. Okay to believe different things and it's okay to have conversations and it's okay to talk about stuff. But it's, it's gotten so crazy the past five, six to eight years where and, and we've had people come, you know, and message us directly on social media and they try to lump us in with like this group because we're Christians or because we're from Texas or. And a lot of the things that they say, I'm like, well, I don't really agree with that. Like, yeah, you're trying to, you're trying to, you're trying to lump me into this group of people that I don't even agree with. Yeah, you know, we, we talk about specific topics like, you know, whenever we had. Because it's topics that we have A very close and personal relationship with. Whenever it comes to like, I mean we're definitely very much so pro life because we have a very deep story.

[Danielle Busby]

That connects us to walking a life of having to make decisions like that.

[Adam Busby]

And because we've seen stuff and we've had very intimate views into, you know, the lives of the unborn based off of the many, the many, many, many ultrasounds that we've had before having the quints. And we got this very intimate view of them and their personalities before they were ever born.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

Which shined a light in saying, man, they were people before they were born. Which. There's a group of people out there that don't even think that they're human or they're not really people until they come out of the mom.

[Danielle Busby]

So if you were to ask that person, I always get so.

[Adam Busby]

And if you try to argue or you try to like kind of tell your point of view, they just get angry and they don't want to hear it and they don't want to, they don't want to hear any sort of like alternating view.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

But we have, we have a very specific perspective and a very real perspective on it. Life which, which gives us our belief.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah, yeah. And yes, we can read something and believe something, but in our story, like we didn't just read something or see something. Like we lived it. We got a very up close and personal view on life before life is born. Right. And so we believe life is at conception. And it's because that is how not just something that we believe God has said, but something that we have experienced in our own life story and testimony of, you know, becoming pregnant with quintuplets and having so many appointments to make sure that they're growing and their, you know, how they are developing and growing. Every other week it was an appointment after appointment for hours. And so we are seeing just different things and feeling different things, but being able to have like a visual and it's almost like, you know, I'd love to like make a documentary of like tracking something like that because it's not. I don't think anyone could really kind of did.

[Adam Busby]

But it got cut out.

[Danielle Busby]

Oh yeah, we had a TV show. But no, like more of like documentary. Yeah, I feel like we need to do that. Okay, so put that in your schedule. 2026 documentary of life before breath.

[Adam Busby]

I don't know right there.

[Danielle Busby]

But it really did, you know, and especially because we had a daughter before we had the quints. So I already walked through a pregnancy and I'm telling you, not that I had a different perspective, but it was a different intimate.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. Understanding it gave you a deeper, a.

[Danielle Busby]

Deeper view on life.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

You know, and then how precious life is, how, how God molds each one of us and knows each one of us and personality before birth. Before birth. So where we say like this is what we.

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[Danielle Busby]

Believe it's because we walked it. It's because we saw it. It's because we felt it.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. And so, you know, whenever you read like a passage in the Bible that talks about like, you know, before you were born, like I knew you, I knitted you in the womb and you know, and all these things, like I knew you, you can't help but like go back and think about man, like our experience through that and to see that because like that's how we felt. We felt like we knew them to the point of giving them nicknames and stuff in the womb.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

That now 10 years later, they're 10 years old. Those same personalities have carried over to this day on just how they interact and how they, how they are. And those same nicknames that we've given them in the womb have carried over and it's just crazy and you can't help it. Like go back and reference like that scripture and you're just like, wow. Yeah, that makes, and it just makes total sense to us. And, and so it gives us, and it gives us such a different perspective that most people will never get. And, and that formalizes our belief, you know, and, and so, you know, yeah, you can get frustrated or angry because we believe this way, but like we have a very unique and intimate view of life before conception or life before birth.

[Danielle Busby]

And well, and then, and then to further on that topic of seeing life born at 28 weeks gestational pregnancy. So I'm seven months pregnant and 28 weeks and two days and I had five babies. So seeing life be born and survive before, it should be, it should be at 40 weeks. You know, full term. Pregnancy is just another testament to our beliefs of, like, watching them develop, watching them grow, watching those things. Like, you know, in the womb at this phase, they would be learning how to swallow or, you know, just certain. Certain skills and reflexes that they didn't know how to do. And now we're watching them learn these things outside of the womb. You know, it's just. It's miraculous. I mean, I think our vision and our view on life is just so extraordinary.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

You know, and it's an extraordinary story that I. I really do feel like we need to, like, pray about how to. How to really make that. And we do.

[Adam Busby]

And we do get a lot of rebuttals from people that are like, well, it was the doctors. What was the doctor? We had very good doctors that cared for our kids, and we are truly grateful for the doctors and nurses that cared for our kids. But, I mean, there was even things about just how the kids fared through the nicu, fared through the birth, Danielle even carrying them, that even left the doctors puzzled.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And even years later, the doctors going back to, you know, those nurses in the NICU that were keeping up with us, and then they're just dumbfounded that this doesn't happen, that the girls were doing so well.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And, you know, so there's a lot of things that, like. Okay, yeah, medical. Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

The medical world doesn't even understand.

[Adam Busby]

The doctors may be great, but, you know, there's. There was. There was an X factor there that was carrying these babies through. And so, I mean, there was just. There's just something else there that, you know, we believed in, that, you know, God showed us, and we had confidence in all through. All through the pregnancy, the nicu, and. And even beyond. And.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And we, you know, conveyed that confidence to the doctor that he was just, like, looking at us like we're crazy through that time. And then everything panned out, and he's like, there's something different there. And even to the point of, like, coming back to our. And visiting, you know, the girls years later at our house and stuff, just because he wanted to see it and he wanted to see the kids again and stuff like that, and because it's. It doesn't always fare that way.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. I actually was just doing some research just recently, for whatever reason, I don't even know about, like, quintuplets and all girls and stuff. I think if someone had asked me a question, it made me wonder what has happened since then. And, you know, the first quintuplets were the Dion quintuplets, I think.

[Adam Busby]

All girls.

[Danielle Busby]

All girl. The first all girl quintuplets, they were born in Canada, I think, in the 30s, 1930s, 1934, or something like that. They were actually. They weren't just quintuplets. They were identical quintuplets. So one egg split five times. Incredible. And then there was a set in the UK and then the Busby quintuplets. So since then. Since the quints were born, our girls were born. I was wondering if there's been another set of all girl quints. And we know about them because they were born in Texas in, like, Midland, Texas. And that story's very different than ours, but other than that, it hasn't happened again. And so, like, I. I just feel like as hard as our days might be and as hard as it is to parent and as much as people might say, well, you chose this. I'm sorry, I don't know who said. Who says, let's. Let's have Adam. If I. Okay. He was like, I really want to have quintuplets.

[Adam Busby]

Says that you're freaking nuts.

[Danielle Busby]

Like, who says that? You know, how do you even pray for that until. Unless, you know, you're at that phase.

[Adam Busby]

You know, it's. It is funny. Like, whenever you're telling our story or people find out we have quintuplets and stuff, they're like, yo, we all trying to have quintuplets. Like, no, we're trying for one more.

[Danielle Busby]

Who does that? Who says that?

[Adam Busby]

You know, nobody. Nobody just jumps to, I want to try to have contupplets.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. But it just. It. It just makes me see God as so grand and that even. Even with someone as little old us, these from Louisiana, with Texas, and, you know, struggle to have kids before and then having Blake and like, I mean, you're going to have quintuplets. And it's like, what? You know, like, no one. No one thinks about having people to this day. Will. Will say, like, I really want to have twins. I mean, even our girls will say, like, I would love to have a boy twin and a girl twin. You know, but it's like, people don't.

[Adam Busby]

Because multiples are just so common.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. But people don't ask for this or pray for this or dream of this. I mean, it's not a normal thing. And so I definitely, you know, feel that it's kind of part of our purpose is like God wanting us to share his story through this, his grace through this, his love through this. His miracles through this. And you know, it's, it's not always easy. And I think what I was going to say earlier, maybe this was something, it was something that had tied into this was when I look at challenges we face and obstacles and when things are hard versus when things are easy, I think when things are hard, what makes them easier to accept or to go forward with is whenever you take yourself out of it. So, meaning when I look back and say one of the absolute most hardest, extraneous, faith driven like life that we lived was when I thought less about me and my priority was the kids.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah.

[Danielle Busby]

Health, the goals. Like, it wasn't about me, it was about my how, how like God's brought us here. If it's up to me, I'll probably fail. And I probably felt a couple times with selfishness and giving in. But, but because my eyes were set amongst myself and my own desires and needs, I was, I, I didn't want to quit work, I didn't want to change course. I didn't want to like leave my job. All those things just I had to do because my eyes were set amongst things outside of me. Right. And I think whenever we can step outside of like our own desires and look at the desires of others and so offering grace and I think every parent has to walk through this and it's not easy. It's not easy. That's when we see how things bloom and how things are better. Yes.

[Adam Busby]

I mean, and like another part of that is like, you know, a lot of times, especially whenever we get overwhelmed or frustrated and stuff, you kind of have this like very narrow worldview where in a sense you think of the world revolves around me or like I am, all of this hinges on me. And whenever you kind of separate yourself and realize like, it's not about me, it's not about, even if it's like work or whatever, this project isn't solely about me. You know, I'm, I'm working with a team. You know, I may be a leader or whatever, but whenever you kind of remove yourself from that, you know, it makes things easier. You, you separate that me mentality from things. And you know, you realize, you know, I have a whole team around me or I have, you know, this other aspect that is going to help me get this job done.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. And I mean, that applies in marriage too, with, you know, in confrontation and in arguments and fights and disagreements. It's often we have to remind ourselves we are a team. We want in the end goal, we want the same. We're seeing things quite differently from our own perspective. So let me see it as you see it so that I can better understand. And so, I mean, it's the same thing. Like, it applies to parenting. It applies to friendships, to all of it. Yeah, all the things.

[Adam Busby]

Yeah. I mean, like, applying it to, you know, parenting or your marriage and stuff like that. I mean, if you have a completely narrow view of everything, anything that Daniel's. Danielle does, you know, and I view it as she's doing that to me, and I get really personal about every single thing instead of, you know. No, she's. She's not. She's not. Every one of her decisions isn't directed at me. It's, you know, it's for the betterment of our family, and it's for, like, the team of our family. And you. You remove that, you know, and you see that we're a team, and we're not just like two individual parents, like, making decisions that we feel like it's best or whatever. But, you know, in every argument that we get in, you know, you have to take a step back and realize, okay, this isn't us fighting each other. You know, we're a team fighting this situation or this decision or whatever. And once you pull yourself back a little bit, you're. You're able to get a little bit different perspective and try to think of it from the other point of point of view or, you know, the family holistic point of view, and things look a lot different.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah, it's good. Anyway, I'm pretty sure this is what wasn't what we were going to talk about today, but I feel like it's been good conversation. Hopefully, it's.

[Adam Busby]

I was just trying to get away from Donald Trump as quick as possible.

[Danielle Busby]

I feel like we. I feel like you did throw out some major, like, headline topics that would stir up a lot of things.

[Adam Busby]

But I do get very annoyed whenever people. Because you're from Texas or because you're a Christian, anybody that's willing to, like, actually sit down and actually talk about things, you're gonna find that probably 80% of the things that you talk about, you're gonna find common ground on, but nobody wants to get to the point of talking anymore. And that's what's so frustrating, because probably 80. A good 80%, you're gonna find common ground, and you're gonna find things that you both agree on.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And I truly believe that because I've had conversations with people that are just willing to talk and, you know, people that have completely polar views of you every single time. It's probably 80%. Oh, yeah, I agree with that. Or, yeah, like, I mostly agree with that, but there's just one little portion of that, and it's fine. Yeah, it's fine to have an opposing view. Like, I mean, yes, there's been things that Donald Trump or Joe Biden or. Or whoever, there's been things that they've done that I agreed with, but there's also a lot of things that I don't agree with.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah.

[Adam Busby]

And like, you know, anytime that Donald Trump gets on the news or whatever, I kind of cringe at what the heck he's gonna say because I. I don't like how he carries himself and through most things. And I mean, anybody that. Just very arrogant. And I just. I don't like it. But. And I'm not saying I am a supporter or I don't or I'm not, because I don't.

[Danielle Busby]

We're a Jesus family.

[Adam Busby]

I feel like we don't support a single person or a single side of anything. Like, there's things that we agree with and don't agree with on both sides, and. And we kind of stay on that line. And, you know, we don't necessarily, like, jump into one boat. Everybody just wants to lump each other into a thing and then not have a conversation. And. And I think that's just the wrong way because I feel like years ago, whenever I was a kid, like, you could still have conversations with people about stuff, and nowadays you just can't. And that's wrong. I mean, you get to a point where, like, what are we doing here? And I feel like social media has, like, completely ruined the way people communicate, and it's further polarized everyone where there truly is common ground there. And. And I feel like people just need to get back to having conversations and being able to be free to just, like, voice what you believe in and not be scared to cancel it or shout it down or whatever because you have a certain belief. Because there's always common ground.

[Danielle Busby]

Yeah. Yeah, good.

[Adam Busby]

Stupid rant. Sorry.

[Danielle Busby]

Anyways, well, I. I guess. I mean, I guess we should wrap this episode up. My phone keeps going off by my daughter, and they're probably like, what's for dinner, Mom? So hope you enjoyed today's episode. It was a little bit. A little bit of a lot.

[Adam Busby]

Completely off the cuff, like, pretty much everything.

[Danielle Busby]

Conversation. But I feel like it's. It's worth an episode to kind of, like, throw out some of our.

[Adam Busby]

We had some topics that we were kind of discussing. Before the podcast and then it just went off the rails.

[Danielle Busby]

So thank you. Thank you for still listening. If you're still listening.

[Adam Busby]

It's one of those.

[Danielle Busby]

It's one of those episodes. But we love you guys. Thanks for listening. And this was episode 44.

[Adam Busby]

44 more than reality podcast. We'll see you in the next one. All right. We love you guys.

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