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More Than Reality with Adam and Danielle
EP 52 - From Travel Chaos to Life’s Biggest Choice: A Year of Podcasting
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Mom and dads need to be present with their kids. They need to do life together. They need to be talking to their kids. They need to. It goes back to, like, what God.
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B
Created and also, like, just like, as parents, like, putting up barriers.
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A
Yeah. And it's okay to say that letting.
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B
Your kids, like go into these dark spaces online and stuff and start, like, looking for answers on their own.
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A
Yeah. And I wish, I wish women who are pregnant were able to do it more, were able to have ultrasounds more often to be able to see the things that we got to see, because they don't. They. They don't get to have that level of what we got to see. This is More Than Reality podcast, where we dive into all things faith, family and marriage and share that there is so much more than the reality that you see on the surface. Welcome to More Than Reality with Adam and Danielle Busby.
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B
Welcome to episode 52 of More Than Reality podcast. This is officially the one year episode.
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A
Cheers. I don't even have water to drink.
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B
So this is officially more than reality.
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A
What a correlate.
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B
One year. One year of episodes.
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A
No, your other hand.
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B
Well, my mic's in the way.
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A
The hug hand. Hug.
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B
It's so weird. So you just wrap your thumb around the other person. Hand hugs.
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A
That's amazing. Yeah. I can't believe we've been doing this for a year and at this point we thought we would not still be doing this in the comfort of our home.
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B
Well, last week we did it in the car. In the car in the airport. Yeah.
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A
That was kind of fun to change it up. Yeah, A lot of people liked it, actually.
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B
I mean, last week we had a nightmare of a travel day on the way to LA and. Oh, dude, we were supposed to leave at like 11:20am like, the flight was.
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A
Supposed to take off at 11:20.
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B
We get on the plane, we sit there for an hour, and then they're like, hey, there's this light that we thought we'd be able to. We had a crew come out, couldn't get this light to turn off. And so we had this crew come out and they tried to reset it. It wasn't resetting. The lights go staying on. So they can't take off with this light on. So they're like, okay, get off.
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A
We have to order a part. It's going to take an hour.
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B
So we get off the plane, we go grab something to eat and get a text. Get a text for the next plane.
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A
No, it said it's going to take longer. It's now it's going to be another two hours. So we're going to try to find another plane, which is kind of great.
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B
Because it gave me time to, like, edit the podcast that we filmed on the drive last week. And so then we finally get on the next plane and we sit on that plane for an hour and they're like, hey, you know, there is a hole in the cargo hold.
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A
I hate to do this to y'.
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B
All, but, like, thanks, United, for letting us get on this plane with a hole in it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then they're like, well, we just thought we could put this bolt, this panel right on, but it requires a lot more machining than we thought, so we're gonna have to get you off this plane, too. So we're like, great, after sitting on this plane for an hour, we're gonna.
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A
Try to find another plane. So.
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B
So we get off that plane, we have another hour or so, and then we had to switch terminals, so we had to, like, walk all the way across Bush Intercontinental Airport to a whole nother terminal, finally get on the third.
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A
Plane, which is a brand new plane. So thank. Thank God. It was like, should be nothing wrong with this plane. It's brand new.
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B
Yeah, brand new. Had the new new plane smell. So we get on this plane and it takes off. Not an issue. Finally get to la. But we thought we were gonna, you know, be in LA and be able to, like, have lunch, possibly meet up with a few friends while we were there and all this stuff. And then we literally get there at like 9, almost 8:39pm yeah. And like, okay, so we literally just have enough time to get our rental car, go grab something to eat at the pier, and then just go straight back to there.
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A
It was a long day at the airport, so. Waste a day.
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B
Yeah, it was a waste of a day. And it kind of frustrated me because it's like, man. Because I was trying to edit the podcast, get stuff uploaded and stuff, but then I'd have to stop what I'm doing, go get on the airplane, and then I can't do anything on the airplane because there was no service, especially not enough service to like, upload a YouTube video and stuff. And so I'm not doing that from tethering my cell phone to it uploading like a 15 gig file. And so then I have to get off, get on, get off, get on. So I'm trying to, like, get all this stuff done and uploaded while we're just, like, off the plane. And. But it all got sorted out and I was able to Post it like literally in the air. It was already uploaded so I could just like go live while we were in the air. So that was something for sure. Yeah, it was a day that was fun to love. Those travel days never, never seems to work out how you anticipate. You just kind of have to block off a whole day.
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A
Yeah, but it was good. I mean, I'm glad we still got there on Friday because I didn't want to have to like, change. Changed the Saturday plans because I had a, like a recording and like interview and stuff on Saturday morning. And so I didn't want that to change because the stuff that I was originally going to do on Friday got like rescheduled and canceled. And so that's why Friday opened up and I was like, oh, we'll just have a day in la. So it's okay that it. Nothing really had to get like moved around. It just. We were. Ended up having a free day which then turned into hanging out in the airport. But yeah, so we just were in LA for the week and weekend, sorry, weekend for live action and their Life Awards, their gala for the. It's beautiful. Good, good turnaround. Good a lot. Got to see a lot of faces that we know and supporting good cause and something that's, you know, we believe in and close to our hearts and.
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B
Yeah, one couple that's like very near and dear to our heart is Jeremy and Ginger Vulo. And we've been trying to. We've just been missing each other. We're trying to like get on each other's podcast and just because there's some similarities there because of reality TV and stuff. And so we've been trying to make that work and they were even going to potentially like bring all their podcast gear to the hotel and try. Try to figure that out.
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A
I guess we could have done that.
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B
On Friday, but it was just a.
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At the airport.
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B
Yeah, I know. If we had that whole day, we could have potentially just drove to their house. Yeah. But didn't. And so that didn't work out.
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A
And we will take a little break here for our sponsor, which. The one and only Cozy Earth. And we are back home from our little weekend trip and yeah, we did.
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B
Our last Cozy Earth ad in a airport restaurant.
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A
That's right. But we are back home and it is so good to get home and just. I mean, I literally got out of bed, got kids off to school and then went back in bed to work because I just missed my Coco. Yeah. I'm telling you, I really do. I really do love My bed.
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B
Yeah.
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A
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B
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A
Yes, thank you, Coziers.
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B
But then Danielle got to film her podcast with Sammy with live action and then we got to listen to the story. They were recording a podcast right before ours with Chloe Cole. And man, just hearing her story, her gut wrenching story of just being, you know, a young kid and then going through adolescence and stuff like that and you know, just struggling with identity and you know, just the culture of people just like not speaking truth to you and just like enabling whatever a little child is like scared of and stuff like that and you know, pushed her into like the world of like transgenderism and stuff like that and even to the point of like getting on puberty blockers and all this stuff. And then like later she, you know, realized there was like a lot of lies and stuff going on in there and there just wasn't truth in it. And she discovered Jesus and all this stuff and decided to d. Transition. And so now she's like a big proponent of like, hey, this, there's another side to this that y' all should be hearing and kind of sharing just the dangers of it and all this stuff that she was not aware of because she was such a child. You know, people weren't speaking truth to her. And so it just, it was just troubling just like listening to actual real Stories from people that are going through that because, I mean, there's just a lot of that. That's why I kind of tried to stay. I try to stay out of it because it's something that I don't understand, you know, because it's like this world that you just. You don't understand. You don't understand, like, what's going on in people's heads to like, make them feel this way and stuff. And so, like, I don't try to. I don't want to speak on it because I don't fully understand it. But I just know, like. Okay, like, the cornerstone of like, what we believe is in the Bible and, you know, God created man and woman in his image for purpose. And, you know, and then you read like all the stories of, you know, the Bible and, you know, how sin entered the world and, you know, people would just give in to, you know, fleshly desires and stuff like that and then just kind of roll into that. And so, you know, that's. That's the foundation and the cornerstone that we believe of just like the truth in the Bible. But then to hear like, real stories of people that's actually gone through it and experienced it and like lived it, and then just the horrible dangers and stuff that goes along with it, it was, it was eye opening for sure.
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What's was really hard to hear inside was that she was so young.
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Yeah.
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So young. Like not even puberty.
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Yeah.
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And as a parent in which it's.
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Tragic, it's understandable to hear, you know, a girl. Because it is scary here. Like a girl that is, you know, about to go into puberty. Puberty. Puberty.
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Every. Every little girl who's about to, you know, have her period or.
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Yeah, they're like, they're scared of it. They're scared of, like, they're gonna. What's gonna happen to me and like, the changes in my body. And like, especially if you.
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You don't have a parent or a mom or someone like talking to you about that. And I don't think she had that relationship.
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Yeah.
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Of anyone, like, close having that with her. You know, and so, you know, just. And then towards the end of the story of, of her just talking about, like, what is it that you would say to other families, whatever. It's like the. Goes around to like, what God created. It's like you need to go back to the family. Like, mom and dads need to be present with their kids. They need to do life together. They need to be talking to their kids. They need to, you know, and it's just. It's if it goes back to, like.
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What God created and. And also, like, just, like, as parents, like, putting up barriers.
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Yeah. And it's okay.
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Letting your kids, like, go into these dark spaces online and stuff and start, like, looking for answers on their own.
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Yeah.
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And that's what she was doing. And.
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And she said that she's like, it's okay. She's like, I learned that kids need boundaries. Like, it's okay to tell your kids no. Like, that's not okay. And, you know, and that's true. That is true. Like, they don't. They're. They're not mature enough, and we need to be. You know, God has given children. If we are. If we are a parent, we have children, and he has given them to us so that we are the protectors of them and to teach them and to guide them, meaning they don't have the right mind space until they're adults to go through these seasons. That's why we're having to teach them and parent them.
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Right. It reminds me of this story, and I know this isn't completely applicable, but, you know, it goes kind of in the same vein a little bit. Whenever I was in fifth grade, I broke my arm and had had to wear this brace, like, on my. On my left. I broke my wrist in two places and, you know, had this cast, like, all the way up to here. And then they let it, like, heal for, like, they said it the first time, let it heal for a few weeks. And then, you know, you go in, like, midway through for, like, an evaluation, they realized it was healing wrong and needed to reset it. And my mom wasn't present, and she was just waiting out then in the waiting room. But this doctor. I'm fifth grade, mind you. And he just looked at me and he's like, do you want a shot? No context. Just said, do you want a shot? And I'm like, no, I don't want a shot. And so he's sitting there massaging my arm, talking to me, and then just snaps my wrist. And my mom says she heard me scream from the waiting room. And obviously my parents. My dad. My dad was off teaching a fire. Fire school at Texas A M at the time. And he was hot whenever he found that out. I mean, obviously coming from his background and, like, you know, you know, safety and, you know, he was like a fire chief and all this stuff. And then, you know, he was just furious. Like, you don't ask a fifth grader if they want the Shot. When you're about to snap his wrist, like, you just give him the shot or you ask the parents, you know, and stuff like that. You let the parents, like, decide because, like, kids that age, you know, they're kind of, you know, they have tunnel vision about certain things. They don't think everything all the way through. And so, like, whenever the doctor asked me for a shot, I'm like, no, of course I don't want a shot. And then he just snaps my wrist. But, you know, I mean, it just shows. Like, kids don't really, you know, they're not really thinking very logical or have all the answers or have. It's just in that moment, think everything through in the moment. They're just like, no, I don't want this to happen to me right now. Like, I don't want this shot not knowing what the potential danger of that.
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Would be or what's going to happen right after.
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And then, you know, or later.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So, I mean, it just, you know, it just takes people speaking truth, you know, and. And really making sure that you fully understand, you know, the. The magnitude of the decision that you're looking at making and. And what are the potential risks later on in life and stuff. And she started, you know, diving into, you know, her story, listening to her story further on. You know, she was, you know, she came into, like, classes later on, and they were just talking about, like, you know, childbirth and what it's like to be a mom and, like, breastfeeding and like, all this stuff. And she's like, man, that would be, like, awesome. And then she was, you know, worried and scared that, man, I may never be able to do that because of the puberty blockers and the stuff that I did to my body because I made this decision whenever I was young.
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And when she was younger, she was. Thought, I don't want everyone to, like, I don't want to have a kid.
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Yeah, because you're. Imagine like all the changes you go through your, you know, in your mind and you're learning about new things and stuff, and, you know, you don't have life figured out. And then, you know, you get later, later on in life and you understand, you know, like, what life is really about and like, all this stuff and you're like, man, like, you know, I made these decisions earlier that were, like, to my detriment.
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Yeah.
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And so, I mean, it was. It was. It was a hard story to hear and, like, just super inspirational just to, like, hear her now. Just being an advocate for, like, making sure that people understand, like, the magnitude of the decisions they're making. And, you know, kids that age aren't. Aren't capable of, like, fully understanding, like, what they're going through and all this stuff. And so, yeah, it was crazy.
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What else? Anything else? Highlight of the weekend. I mean, also, along with that story, I thought it was, you know, during the, like, the award ceremony of the Lady Liana with her story, which I got fired up on my social media when I shared about it. And people were giving me flack for saying that I'm promoting child rape. And I'm like, you are missing the point.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, that is super sad. Like, they'll just pick out anything. And I'm like, I'm advocating for the innocent child. Like, that did nothing.
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Yeah.
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You know, I mean, and yes, she was a child, but the story of her was she got kidnapped and raped and became pregnant at, like, 12, 13 years old. 12 or 13 years old?
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Yeah.
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And she had no body. And then she ended up keeping the baby. And, you know, that was her daughter, and she raised a daughter and whatnot. And she was telling that story of, you know, not aborting that baby yet or being. Not aborting a child. And so I just kind of shared that story because I get a lot of people who come to my page anytime I talk about that, and they say, you're a mom of six daughters. If something ever happened to any of your girls, you would. You would make that decision to make them have a kid, make them have the baby. And I'm like, listen, first of all.
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I don't like it whenever people use, like, all the worst possible scenarios, like what if scenarios, just to try to pigeonhole you. I mean, right. We are unapologetically pro life because we have, for one thing, partly because of our faith, but also we have real world experiences. You know, we've. We've shared this multiple times on our podcast just about, you know, life inside the womb and being having the most intimate encounter that any parent probably in the world could have because of the amount of ultrasounds, sometimes three and four hours of just understanding, you know, life inside the womb and, like, learning the personalities of our children in the womb, you know, for 28 weeks and, you know, at three, four hours at a time every single week, and to the point of having nicknames picked out for the girls based off of how they interacted and how they acted in the womb. Like, we had, like, oh, this is Riley. She's a little fireball. And she just, you Know, you know, she's constantly, like, kicking Daniel on her side, and. And so she's, you know, just feisty. And I mean, to this day, 10 years old, that's exactly how she acts. And she acted like that in the womb, you know, like Parker. We called her Perfect Parker. Parker was just, like, just super content. You know, her. Her vitals and her stats were always just, like, so even. And just like, we called her Perfect Barker because, like, she was just there and she was just super calm and just. And, you know, that's how Parker is to this day.
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And they all. It's like what he's getting at is that we had an intimacy of, like, an intimate level of getting to see and understand each baby and what that gave us. Even though we already knew life in the womb was life, it gave us a deeper level of getting to know the personalities of the babies. And. And I wish. I wish women who are pregnant were able to do it more, were able to have ultrasounds more often to be able to see the things that we got to see, because they don't. They. They don't get to have that level of what we got to see.
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B
It's like the doctors with, like, the ultrasound probe, you know, he was having to manipulate and push and do all this stuff to Danielle, and you could see the babies, like, interacting and, like, pushing back and, like, acting, you know, based off of that. So, I mean, they're like little people in there, like, interacting with their environment and stuff like that. And, like, they're not just this clump of cells, like, a lot of people advocate for and, like, say, oh, it's not. It's not human. It's just like a clump of cells or a parasite living off the mom. Like, like, that is crazy to me for somebody to believe that. But it's like, it's really comes from a place of. And. And this is a strong word, but a place of ignorance, because you don't have that experience. Like, you haven't seen, like, the things that we've seen. You haven't. You don't. You. You just. You want to validate your belief and you want to just validate, you know, what medical doctors tell you and, you know, the way that the medical industry has been set up. I mean, look at. Look at all the things and the. The under undercover cameras that have been exposing, like, stuff with Planned Parenthood and stuff, and how they're, you know, selling body parts and, you know, all this crazy stuff and, like, giving, you know, you know, pretty much paying for and funding these abortions for, for girls. And they're paying for it because they know they're going to make a lot of money on the tissue and all this stuff for medical research and all this stuff in the back end. And so it's just, it's a big racket that they're like, you know, for just, okay, let's rack up and do as many abortions as we can because we're getting paid. And it's become like this crazy. And you know, and we've really been able to kind of peel back the layers based off of all these, you know, these hidden cameras and stuff that we've. They've caught people from Planned Parenthood and other abortion clinics like, talking about openly and like gloating about like what they're doing. And it's just eye opening and alarming and hence, you know, Planned Parenthood getting defunded. And like here in Houston, like the, the largest Planned Parenthood in all of the United States just closed its doors for good because of the defunding. And you know, yes, there was some stuff that Planned Parenthood was doing medically for women, but it was just if the evil that they were doing far exceeded the good. And so, I mean, just the dishonesty in that industry.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And what's sad is that is appalling.
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What's sad is that something that I would, I would love to be more loud about is that every person who, who faces that moment of when they're told that they need to have an abortion because of. I've seen this in my feed most recently and I've been anyway that they need to have the abortion because of whatever reason because of they're having multiples and there's a risk of xyz. There's fear of their life over the baby's life. There is, you know, the mom is scared because she doesn't. She's not supposed to be pregnant or she's hiding it or I don't care what the reason is. They're told by a doctor, the best thing to do is an abortion. That is a lie. That's a lie. And what I want them to ask is all the other questions because in that moment with the doctor, every person stops in that moment and they hear the doctor and they just instantly say, well, the doctor said, the doctor said that must be what's right. And it's not, it's not always right. And I am not putting down medical and science and doctors by any means. There are like, there is an amazing doctors out there. But there's a lot of corruptness, and there's a lot of corruptness in the medical world and a lot of corrupt doctors. So the doctors that Adam's talking about, all these ones that are, you know, taking advantage of these and just money, money, money, and like, it's. It's sickening, all that world. But the doctor. There are doctors that are telling these women that they need to have an abortion because they're in the clinic or because they think that's what they want to hear, but they're going in there scared and they don't know other options. Right.
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B
And in a lot of cases, but they don't know.
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What they don't know is that if they're stepping in here, if they could only ask, what is. What is the chance that this is harmful to me? What is the chance that I'm doing this and something can actually happen to me as you're doing that? Because there are still risks for you as the patient that you could bleed out, that you could have something that they could harm you as well. And the fact that when people say, my life is at risk with this pregnancy, that fires me up because my life was at risk with five babies. My life was at risk with five babies. My life was at risk with one baby. All life is at risk whenever we are pregnant. You are sacrificing your body to be able to be pregnant and carry a child. And we cannot. We cannot claim that we are going to have life tomorrow. We don't. We don't know that we are going to even be here tomorrow. So to. So to say that a doctor says you are not going to survive tomorrow or you're not going to survive this pregnancy, Okay, I take that with a grain of salt because I'm going to take that to God and I'm going to say, God your will be done. And I've seen him walk miracles through my life. I've seen him heal people. I've seen people who were supposed to die still be here 10 years later. So there are things that doctors can do and help with, but there are things that they can not understand. There are miracles that God can work through. And so sometimes these women that walk in these clinics or are exposed to certain things, they're not getting told the other side, the other side. And that's what needs to change. And I think defunding parenthood, planned Parenthood, and that is going to hopefully open the eyes to a lot of these women where they're finding that if they become pregnant that they're maybe finding. That they're finding places to go and have care that are more Christian base or. Because there are a lot of pregnancy care centers. There are a lot of pregnancy care centers that actually they want to help you, they want to support you, they want to find care for you and they will help you. Yeah, you know, there's tons of those.
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B
And there's very rare cases where you know, there's like, I mean there's. There's things obviously there's natural miscarriages.
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A
Yes.
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That are horrible and you know, there's a lot of misconceptions out there in the industry and doctors kind of in a sense like weaponizing that based off a certain law that are there or ambiguous ambigu. Ambiguity in the laws where you know, in a sense these doctors are somewhat advocating for just going ahead and getting an abortion. So, you know, in the case of like a life saving issue with the, you know, because of the baby, because of the baby's miscarrying and stuff like that, they're reluctant to go ahead and induce early because they're like, well, I'm going to get in trouble for this. And. And so the doctors like wait, which causes problems and stuff like that. And yeah, I mean these are fairly rare circumstances. You may hear of just like a handful that's happened even in the US but obviously because of the news cycle and you know, the nature of this subject, you know, obviously those are the ones you hear about. And so there's a lot of like nuances here and there are very, you know, outlying circumstances. And you know, we believe that like, you know, a natural miscarriage isn't an abortion. You know, it naturally happens and you know, to induce that pregnancy because, you know it's not working. The pre. The pregnancy is like naturally miscarrying and you know, which could potentially cause harm or whatever to the mom or stuff like that. So you know, we're not advocating that that is not an abortion. That is not going to an abortion clinic and having a miscarriage is.
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A
You've lost heartbeat and that that baby is no longer like thriving in the womb.
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B
Yeah.
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A
There's no longer a heartbeat.
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B
Yeah.
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A
An abortion is the baby is literally alive. Heartbeat, blood flowing, still continuing to grow and you're choosing to kill that life.
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B
Yeah. And I think anybody that is considering an abortion should have to sit down and watch a video, a video of how an abortion takes place. Because I think anybody that watches that will have reservations. Yeah. Because it's very brutal and horrible process of how it happens. And.
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I think that, you know, I'm just gonna say this, too. Two things. Two things that if you're considering an abortion, I would encourage you to just. If that's you today or it's on your mind, just to stop and just say, God, be with me. Help me to change my heart, change my mind. I cannot do this. Please help carry me through this, to change my actions so that I can go forth forward and. And carry me through carrying this baby. Whether you give this baby up for adoption or you carry this baby and you, you know, mother it, but please do not abort it. Life is life, and it is worth giving it a chance. Now, those of you who have had an abortion, I would imagine, because I have heard this from quite a few people and I've listened to other podcasts and stuff, there's the. The weight and the guilt that forever weighs on you because of that action. And I. And I think that that's only human of you.
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B
Yeah.
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To feel that. And I. I think. Is it. I think that you should. Is that mean to say you should what? I think you should feel guilty.
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B
I mean, it's.
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A
However, God is a God of love and forgiveness.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And if you are carrying the weight of. Of an action that you chose to do, you can run to him and he will gather his arms around you, and you can repent and you can ask for forgiveness, and he will forgive you. He is a God of love, and he will forgive you so you don't have to walk with that burden on your shoulders the rest of your life. So guilt or shame. Yes.
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B
Anything like that. Yeah. Yeah.
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So just know that he. He. He is always there for you, and he's just right there waiting for you to turn to him, to give that to Him. So I'd encourage you to do that if that's you, you know, walking with that.
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B
Yeah. And, you know, I mean, obviously not. Well, not obviously you don't know this, but, I mean, we know of people that have had abortions and have personal stories of friends, of friends that had abortions, and, you know, the growing consensus, everybody that we know of every story, 100% of the stories that we've heard of, of people that we know that have had abortions. They were not allowed to give an ultrasound and let them hear the heartbeat before it happened. They did everything they could to hide that, to let. Not let the mother hear the heartbeat, because they knew if a mom hears the heartbeat or if a mom sees the baby moving or something like that, they'll possibly Reconsider. And, I mean, that's horrible. I mean, like, somebody that's making a decision to potentially end a life, like, you should at least have that. To be able to know what the heck you're doing and to be able to see that and hear that, and, you know, it's dishonesty. They're not allowing them to, you know, hear a heartbeat and to see the baby move and. Because they just want to go through with the procedure. And that's so sad to hear. I mean, we know of something very recently of a friend of a friend that that exact same thing happened to. Like, they wouldn't let her even hear the heartbeat before they did it. And. And that's just. That's.
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A
It should not be dishonest.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So didn't think that this episode would kind of dive down into this and be so heavy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But it's something that we care about, and it's something that's on our heart, and it's something, you know, obviously, very recently that we've kind of dealt with, and just, like, an experience that we've had and, you know, it's just something close to us right now on our minds and, you know, something real. Obviously, it's a very polarizing subject.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And, you know, this subject right here is probably going to make a lot of people angry that we're even talking about it. But, you know, here's More Than Reality podcast. We share the bad with the good. And, you know, we just try to be as honest and open as possible about, like, the things that we believe in and the things that, you know, are our fears and things that are on our heart. And so. But this is one of those things.
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A
We want to make it clear, like, a lot of people give us flack because, you know, they say you don't know what you're talking about unless you've been in a situation for that. And I want to say, like, I have been in that situation. I've been in that situation when I was pregnant with quintuplets, and I was told, you need to abort three of these babies so that you have a more likely chance of survival. Because I. I had a 12% chance of any of the five babies surviving. 12% chance that if I went through this pregnancy that any of them would survive. 12%. And if I were to abort three of them, I had a 13% chance that any of them would survive if I went through aborting trying to abort three of them. Okay, These numbers don't Add up. So these are things that people don't talk about. Had a total a 12% chance of trying to make it through a pregnancy with quintuplets that any of them would survive. But if I went through an abortion to reduce to twins, so abort three of them at a 13% chance that any of them would survive trying to abort three of them. So the odds are that there's no better option right there. Right?
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B
Yeah.
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So my faith in my belief is I'm pregnant with quintuplets. We're going to try to have quintuplets. And that is what we did. And look where God has brought us five healthy quintuplets. Right. So my odds were against me. Survival was not on my, was not on my side. God was on my side, but survival was not on my side. Survival was not on the quintuplet side at all. At all. Okay. So when we talk about, you know, being against abortion and stuff like we are for life. We are for life. It is a very heavy topic. We have been very convinced, over convinced, trying to tell ourselves, them trying doctors and stuff, trying to tell us that we need to abort because that is the best case scenario for me trying to survive and trying to have healthy babies of two. And I'm a healthy wife mom and I have five healthy quintuplets. So we beat the odds. And so can you. So can you. If you're going through an option of trying to abort a child. Just know that if I can beat those odds, you can beat the odds too.
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B
Yeah. I mean the only other thing that I would say is like the people that like attack us and say, look, how dare you try to make that decision for other people. It's not that we're make trying to make the decision.
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A
We are trying to encourage you.
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B
We're trying to encourage, but we're also trying to give you hope. Making sure encourage and give people hope. Yes. But also just make sure you do your due diligence and understanding the magnitude and the facts and stuff that are out there. And because there's a huge money making industry in this that people aren't giving you all the facts and, and aren't letting you see everything.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And to be able to make a sound decision on what you're doing or potentially doing. And you know, and that's what we're advocating for. It's just like there's other resources out there. There's people you can reach out to, there's people that are willing to help you, you know, in situations. I mean, the. The organizations that we've partnered up with and stuff like that, that. That help. And I mean, they have houses and like, all this stuff, and they. They come alongside moms that are in crisis situations with. With pregnancy. Pregnancy crisis situations, and they come alongside of them and they walk. Walk alongside of them with this. And they help pay for things and they. They help them, you know, if you.
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A
Need to get through school, if you need to help find a job, like.
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B
Just one of the scariest decisions that they're about to make and, you know, just full of love and encouragement and. And, you know. And help.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
So.
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A
So that's why we talk about it. Not in a way to put others down, but to encourage and to give hope, but also to look. Look outside of what only a doctor is telling you and what only your fear might be telling you, but to look up and say, what could possibly be another option?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And the other option is life. And what would another option of life look like? How could I seek advice of that? So that's what we would encourage you for. With.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So thanks for listening to this heavy episode today.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So last week was fun in the car answering questions, and today was a bit heavy.
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B
But so hopefully it could just be, like an encouragement to you guys and, you know, not condemnation on anybody.
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We're not against. We're not against anybody. Like, we just. We're for. We're for you. We want to help you. If this is you. We want to encourage you. We want to send you help. We want to tell you how to get help. And there are. There are communities around you, lots of pregnancy crisis centers with lots of support. So they're. They're all around. All around. So thank you guys for listening.
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B
Yep. This is episode 52 of more than Reality Podcast. We love you, Gu.
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A
It.