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There's just a lot of people that I guess aren't up to date on Danielle's medical journey. And so today we're gonna address, like, where Danielle is right now with, you know, give, like, a health update, medical update, stuff like that on the podcast.
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The number one question is it's not said in these terms, but it basically is, why does Danielle look fat? What is Danielle huge? Why does she look so different? This is More Than Reality Podcast, where we dive into all things faith, family, and marriage and share that there is so much more than the reality that you see on the surface. Welcome to More Than Reality with Adam and Danielle Busby. Hello. Hello.
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Welcome to episode 77 of More Than Reality podcast. This is Adam and Danielle Busby. Now this week.
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And Gus.
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Oh, yeah, Gus is down there.
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Hey, Gussie.
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Hello.
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You can't even see him.
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But he's hiding over here like always. He's going to be as still as humanly possible. Or as you can't really say humanly.
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Yeah, that's right.
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What do you say?
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He kind of is a human, though. It's my baby boy.
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As still as doggy possible.
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As still as a possum. Oh, man.
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He doesn't move.
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He just likes.
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He knows he'll get kicked out.
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Yeah, mean daddy.
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I mean, our last studio, it was in my office at our old house, which was right by the front door. And so like, whenever he would stay in our office in there and he would see somebody because you could see through the glass window.
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Yeah.
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And he'd see somebody come to the door, he'd cause a ruckus. But back here in this studio, it's a little different.
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Yeah. It's a little bit easier for you to have. Guess.
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Yeah.
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If you don't know who Gus is, if you're listening, because I forgot people actually listen and not Watch. Gus is our. Is my little prized possession puppy. He's not really a puppy. He's about to be five years old this month. It's like birthday month. Speaking of, Gus is going to turn five. The quints are turning 11, and Blake is turning freaking 15.
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Yeah. It's crazy.
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Homegirl is, like, ready for that permit, and I am not at all ready for her to be behind the wheel today.
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Today is April 2, and her birthday actually falls.
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Blake's birthday falls on this Sunday, actual Easter Sunday.
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And we're going to be. We're taking a trip to Cinnamon Shore in Port Aransas, Texas. It's like a little. It's like a little strip island right off the coast of Texas. Like, further south Texas. Like, near, like, Corpus Christi.
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I'm like, what's in here? I don't know.
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I was scrambling for a second, like, whoa, what's this near? But it's like the 30A of Texas. So, like.
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And what's 30A? Because I tried, remember, I texted your parents that, and they're like, your Dad's like, what's 30A? Like, everybody knows 30A. It's like the Florida, like, Rosemary Beach. It's like the cutest area in, you know, Florida to go vacation.
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I mean, naturally in America. Like, in the 30A, it's a little bit bluer, clearer water. Well, yeah, and the sand is definitely better. It's like powder white sand there. But it's what we got in Texas.
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Yeah. It's better than.
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We're cursed. We're cursed by the current of the Gulf of Mexico. So we get all the crap blown in by the. The Mississippi River.
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Yeah. Excuse my man voice today. If you're wondering who's on the set today, it's just me, Danielle. I sound like a man today. I've got.
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Who's Adam and that dude?
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I. Which was so funny yesterday. Small story. I had to make a phone call yesterday to. I had this, like, thing come in the mail, and I needed to find out what was it about or whatever. And it's Adam's name on it. Whatever. It was, like, this reimbursement, like, insurance check or whatever, and they're like, what's your name? I'm like, matthew Busby.
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Is that one? Is that why I'm getting phone calls from the hospital? I got one today while I was at work.
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I don't know, but it's. That's a whole. That's a side conversation we'll have off the mic. But I was like, they ain't Even gonna question if that's a woman on the phone, because I sound like a man.
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It's like Matthew Busby calling you. Yes, sir.
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Good times. But yeah, so Blake's. You know, I think having the golf cart has definitely been like. I was thinking about this, like, actually last night when I couldn't go to sleep. It's like, man, how life is so different. When I was driving at, you know, 12, my grandpa's car from around the his house to his garden farm. Remember we had an argument about that on the podcast before?
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Not a farm. Whatever it was, I think it's split 50, 50.
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Anyway, I'm sorry, you're a farmer. Whenever you create veg, like, you plant vegetables, grow them, and you sell them. You're a farmer. Okay, I win. Wait, what do you want to say to that?
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No, I said okay.
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Oh, I thought you're gonna say something else.
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No, you're right.
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I'll take 50. 50. But yeah, I remember like, Pops being like, get up in that Cadillac Bosemobile. That's my grandpa. Always, always had the most mobility. Swore by that brand. And in his farm, little garden farm was like two roads over from, like, where his house and stuff was. So he would let us, like, get in the car. And if you don't know, like, my grandparents, like, raised us a lot. Me and my sisters alongside of with my mom too. But my grandparents, like, are the ones who, like, taught us. Like, I was thinking about this, doing the tip. Like, I'm like, man, that was another thing that, like, Pops taught us. Like, he taught us how to drive. He taught me how to ride bike and, like, those kind of things. I was just thinking about that and a lot of things I've been thinking about. But anyway, so we're in that season with Blake and, you know, for a long time, from when she was little, we would put her in dance and put her in gymnastics just to help her stay, like, coordinated and like, build stability because she's can be like, so lala. Like, you know, at times, I don't even know how to explain that besides just being like la La Land, you know? And so I keep telling her I'm like, with driving, like, the biggest thing about driving is being multi sensory awareness. Multitasking. Multi. Sensory.
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Don't say multitasking.
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Well, you are multitasking because you're using your.
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You're just aware. You're aware, you're multi aware, but you
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are multitasking because you're driving.
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Nobody wants people driving and multitasking.
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Well, I'm Just saying that to her. Because I'm like, you have to make sure what your foot's doing. You're going to have your hands on steroid. You got to look at your. Your. Your mirrors all the time. You know, I'm going to every fine little detail point because I'm like, it does not matter. It does not matter how good of a driver you are, because you're driving around hundreds of people who you don't know anything about how they're driving.
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Defensive driving.
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I know. And so I'm trying to tell her. She's like, mom, I'm doing good. I'm like, okay, you are, but it doesn't matter. Like, you always have to be aware.
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She does do surprisingly well because she
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was able to drive the golf cart. Yeah, we've had a golf cart in that.
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We have, but we had a golf cart the size of your car.
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Yeah.
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Still one of those big limo golf carts. Yeah. That helped a ton.
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Having a golf cart helped her a ton. And so just, you know, she definitely is, like, getting more comfortable with, like, the foot and, like, the braking and, like, all those kind of things. But it's just. I'm just. I just sit in the car and I'm just like, I cannot imagine you on the road with other cars around you. And I'm like, what happens if a car comes flying up behind you? So it's. It's a season of us trying to teach our teenager how to drive. And, you know, she's all like, wants to be. Go, go, go in the car.
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And I'm like, she's super motivated to, like, want to just go and drive around. Yeah. And part of me, I get. I get at home, I get to home, I get to the house in the evening, and she's like, let's go drive. I'm like, I don't really want to drive
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around the neighborhood because most. Because, like, when she comes home from school, usually, like, she's tired or, like, wants a nap or, like, chill time.
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Yeah.
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And then she wants to go do it, like, in the evening. I'm like, but it's dinner time. And, like.
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And so I know, like, I was like, I. I was heating up dinner. And, like, right as it's like, ready, she's like, okay, let's go. I'm like, babe, it's dinner time.
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You don't call her babe. You call me babe.
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Baby girl.
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Baby girl. I've heard that in a while.
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Anyway, do you remember you got mad at me yesterday?
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Why?
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Just once, because we went because We. We went and driving and I let her get on the main road.
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Don't even get me started because I'm gonna get fired up again.
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I freaked her out. Okay, now take a left. She's like, what? Mom never lets me go left. Like, take a left. I gotta keep her on her toes. I gotta push her.
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But let's not talk about that and let's not do that because you gotta push them.
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You gotta make her feel uncomfortable.
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She has to get her permit. She has to get a permit to. Before you start doing that.
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I mean, everybody takes their kids out to drive before they get their permit.
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Yeah. You gotta practice what I'm doing in the back of the neighborhood where there's no houses and no cars.
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Learning how to control more cars going through the neighborhood than there was on the main road.
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Not when you go to the back where it's all new.
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It's like cars on both sides of the road parked on the.
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Listen, you're fired.
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She's constantly, like, weaving through cars the whole way. I'm like, no, take a left. We're gonna go out on this road.
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I'm just saying be careful because you don't want her to have. I just don't want a consequence to come up because that is what we teach our kids a lot. Consequences. Consequences with things that you make decisions. So if you can. Wait.
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Police officer would be understanding. Oh, yeah. 14 year old. You're teaching how to drive.
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That's what a permit's for. When you get 15, that's when you do that driving. That's when you do that kind of driving.
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Yes.
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It's okay, whatever. Anyway, springtime is here, which means summertime is right around the corner. And honestly, with our family, so much of our life happens right around the table.
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Yeah. And with six girls, what's on that table matters, like, a lot.
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That's not what I was gonna talk about. I was gonna say, do you remember you're driving, like, practicing driving.
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It was actually pretty. It was crazy uneventful because. So, like, I always thought that, like, I was gonna get my dad's truck, he was gonna pass it down, which I. I never ended up getting my dad's truck. But it was a standard shift, which you rarely see those anymore unless it's,
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like, a sports shift. Not a standard.
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It's a standard. Standard or automatic. Yes, that's what they call it.
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Oh, that was just called a stick shift.
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And so, you know, we're. We're on our way home from church one evening. It was, like, dark, and we just were going down, like, these back roads, going back to our house, and he just, like, pulls over, stops at a stop sign, and gets out the car. And I was like, oh, crap. What did I do? I thought I was about to get beat on the side of the road for something, and he's like, go get in. I was like, okay. Very first time, like, actually getting in his truck, driving and a stick shift, as Daniel would say, and. And just immediately, y'.
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All. Y' all know, people listening.
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Call it that, too, and immediately got in, took off, never stalled it, and just, like, drove all the way home, like, no issue. And I kind of relay that back to, like, driving four wheelers all the time that were, like, not automatic. And so I was used to, like, feathering the gas, letting off the. You know, pushing in the clutch and, like, working the gas and clutch and stuff like that. So, like, I had those fundamentals down and just took off. Never. Never stalled it. No issue.
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Took off. And you still drive that buzz bus like you're driving that sports car. Yeah. I'm like, it's funny. Hence, a lot of times while I drive because he makes me car sick. But, yeah, that's a fun, fun part of life right now. It's very, very new. Very different.
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Yeah. I mean, I. I got a little.
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I just don't want to, like, be.
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I got a little annoyed yesterday. We get in the car, she's like, well, at least, like, back it out of the driveway. I mean, back it out of the garage for me because it's kind of tight. Squeezing out of the garage, past the van, and then once I get past Savannah, get out and let her in. But she was like. She's trying to, like, set up, like. Because obviously it's on the Tesla.
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She put her name in. We made a profile for her.
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Yeah, but you set it up wrong. And it was like. It was like trying to make me register. Like, you sold her the vehicle. Like, she was having to do all kind of stuff and, like, put input. Her bill, the bill of sale. And, like, I'm like, no, I don't
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know what she did on her phone.
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It was done. It was done on the.
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On the car. All you had to do is go to Blake.
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Well, it was. She was trying to set it up with the app.
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I don't know what she did on the app. I didn't do anything Incorrect.
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No. And so I canceled it. But, yeah, it was having me give all kind of weird information, but she was trying to set up, like, apple music and all this stuff on the Tesla. I'm like, babe, we're not.
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You don't call her babe.
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I actually did. We're not listening to music. Like, you're driving, and you're going to focus on driving. We're not. We're not. We're not.
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We're not there yet.
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Listening to music.
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Make sure you know how to use the gears and stuff first.
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Yeah, before.
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But we had a level of distraction in the.
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Blake driving, me in the passenger seat, and then Parker and Riley were in the back seat freaking out the whole time.
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And then I had to leave you.
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And then wanting to roll down the windows and stuff. I'm like, no, no.
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But at. At some point, those levels of distractions will have to come into play because, like, music. You know, she's going to have music going, you know, like, whatever. But I'm just trying to make sure, like, she knows how to, like, control everything and. And know the function of the car as well as how to use it, you know, which is so funny because, like, you know, nowadays with all the backup cameras and, like, there's. There's Rare. Rarely little any. There's. There's barely any cars that have like that technology, like a standard now, you know. And so I'm like, girl, when you back up, always, you know, she's like, just wants to look at the camera like I do. But I'm like, no, when you get in a test for the driver's ed thing, they're going to want to watch you, like, look back, look back, look at your mirrors. And I said, but yes, in this car, all you do is make sure those lines are, you know, it's. So it's cheating.
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Yeah. It kind of spoils you a lot, especially driving a test. But I'm wondering what, like learning how to drive on a Tesla, a car that can pretty much drive itself.
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Yeah. I mean, we're not letting her do that. But I wonder what those regulations are when you go through your driver's ed.
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Like, it's got to be the same as it always been. Like, as if all those features aren't on a vehicle. Yeah, I would imagine any. I mean, you got to be prepared for something that doesn't have that kind of stuff on it.
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Yeah. So right now she's doing like the, it's like the parent taught, like, look, it's my first experience with homeschool parent taught driver's edge. So it's like a six little test or whatever it is. And then that way she can, she has to complete this before she can get her permit on her 15th birthday. And so she'll get her permit like when we get back from the beach. Oh, just crazy. And then from there.
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Which means we have to put her on insurance, huh?
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Yes. I need to call insurance. Yeah, it's the start, the start of everything continually to increase and go up in cost in this house.
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Oh boy.
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Yeah. But yeah, so anyway, that's what's happening lately. Just Driver said teenager driving. So.
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Yeah.
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So today, another weekend, she's gonna want to be. Let me like pick her up from school. She's gonna be. Want to be like, let me drive home. You know, like all those little things. Let me drive to school. Let me, you know, hey, but you know what? You know what else it is? It's also another form of a consequence that we can say no. If you're punished, you're not allowed to drive.
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No driving. That's true. One more thing we can take away. So today, because I feel like we kind of in the, in the spirit, in the move of like the last a few episodes, I guess we've kind of addressed Some stuff that we've, like, seen online or whatever, but I feel like we're running into more and more comments from people, you know, just, like, about Danielle. And, like. Like, Danielle looks different or, I mean, like, just like, a lot of comments. Like, a lot of people that just don't realize, like, what Danielle's going through, like, with her autoimmune stuff. And so there's just a lot of people that I guess aren't up to date on Danielle's medical journey. And so today we're gonna address, like, where Danielle is right now with, you know, give, like, a health update, medical update and stuff like that on the podcast and kind of let you guys know, like, where we're at.
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Yeah.
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Or where she's at.
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I think the number one question is it's not said in these terms, but it basically is, why does Danielle look fat? Why does Danielle huge. Why does she look so different? And let me tell you, welcome to 42 Autoimmune Mama 6 Quintuplet Pregnancy. My body has been damaged, and I'm no longer living on adrenaline and.
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But it's just like, kind of like an extreme, like, hormone imbalance.
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I mean, it's a. It's a lot. So we're talking about. Get all my notes out here, because there's a bunch. Yeah, so we're talking about thyroid to hormones, to stress, to inflammation, and learning a lot about just, like, hydrating your body and stuff, too. So it's. It's not one thing. And what I've learned, actually, let me just start with all the things that I'm going to share that I am doing and that I am using and I am taking. I am not suggesting as medical advice. As medical advice for you to do this. I am letting you know what I have been advised by. By my doctors and how. And what my blood work and what my body is going through. These are the things that are helping
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me, which I'm super guilty of. Constantly giving Danielle medical advice every day,
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and I don't respond to any of the TikTok. Any of the things I'm like, this is old.
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This looks promising.
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I don't like nothing you send me.
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Your doctor thought of this yet?
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Yeah, he thinks he's. He's Dr. Fix Danielle.
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I mean, I come across, obviously, just because.
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And everything.
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The world that we live in, and Danielle's like, you know, battle with fibromyalgia and the hormone stuff. And so, like, naturally, just like, from us talking and, like. And then I'll get fed stuff in my Algorithm, like, on Instagram. And, like, I'll just kind of get in that. Go down that rabbit hole of autoimmune stuff and treating autoimmune disorders and stuff. And so, like, I'll come across these random videos. It's like, just like, constantly sending Danielle stuff.
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I don't even respond to him anymore because I'm like, I've already seen this, and you're in the past. That's in the past. Like, you think you sent me one yesterday. I'm like, I saw this a long time ago.
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I sent one about Blake, too. Blake has, like, an iron deficiency.
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Yeah. So, anyway, however, the things that I do share, I would. If you struggle with any of these things, I would say there could be some helpful tips in. Or you can talk to your doctor or try some of these. I mean, a lot of these are just vitamins and minerals, so it's not like it's gonna. Like, it's not like you have to have a prescription for this or nothing. And these are things that work well in your body and help help things in your body. So a lot of that supplements should not do you wrong, in a sense.
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Yeah.
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But once again, this is what I'm doing.
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I mean, the. The way that Daniel's explained this to me because, like, I'll say, hey, you know, maybe like, add this to your, you know, your supplement routine or, like, your intake or whatever. And she's like, no, I can't do that. Because so, like, her doctor is. Or what do you call it? Homeopath or homeopathy. Huh?
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She's a doctor.
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She's a doctor. I call her a witch doctor.
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She's not a witch doctor. She is amazing. She is one of my favorite people these days. She has helped me so much.
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Danielle's got a voodoo doctor and. But so, you know, Danielle has. Obviously she's going to. Has hormone imbalances and also, like, chemicals and. And everything in her body. So, like, little by little, they're trying, like, they're getting certain levels up little by little. You can't just go in, like, all at once. Like, you gotta attack one, one or two things at a time until you get something back, like, up to where you need it. Okay. And now that. That's there. Now let's bring this up. And so, like, it's this long journey of, you know, just constantly. It's like minor tweaks here and there. Okay. You know, let's do this for the next three months and then come back, do blood work and let's see where we're at, and then we'll adjust from there. And so it's just constant adjustments to try to get everything before you just like go all in and you know, like you did in the past and like, doctor just put you on testosterone and stuff. And. And it may not been the best thing to do right then.
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Yeah. So. So I can speak on testosterone first. So years ago, when I was having all the migraines, just immense amount of pain. I was extremely exhausted and tired all the time. I did some blood work, whatever. I had like three. Like, my testosterone was three in for a woman. And.
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And it should be like, what, 60?
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I don't know. I don't. I don't like the standards of what normal is because I think everybody has their own normal. So I did go on testosterone for a while, and it did great.
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It.
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It kept me alive, I felt like.
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But you also had side effects.
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It helped me feel like I was awake. It kept me not having to take naps. It helped me with my migraines, not getting as many migraines and just like that energy and just feeling like, oh my gosh, like I'm a person. I'm not just like struggle bus every day. You know, I did that for a couple of years and I. It was. It's. It's like you had to take to. To get good out of it. I had to suffer something else.
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Yeah.
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So nothing was ever like, perfect. Right. And so I had a lot of side effects. You know, I mean, just in general, like, people get. You'd get like random hair growths and just whatever. I gained weight, which most of the time, people lose weight on that. Well, guess what? My body's like, no, let's do the opposite. And so I was a season. A while of that. I went through that years ago. And for the season of life that I was in, it was very much a help. But I knew I didn't want to sustain or like that. That. And people do. But at that time, I was on like, pretty high dosage of it, like just to regulate my body. But with that said, I did that without knowing all the other things that were depleted in my body. So it was. In a sense, it was a band aid on top of these other things and that were so struggling in this one thing, like, maybe gave me a little bit of energy and stuff, but it didn't help the other things, you know, So I went off of that for a while knowing that, hey, I really want to, like, cleanse my body and get through all that. To really start with, like, hey, how do I. How do I figure out. Identify the problem? And, you know, that's been the hardest part to talk about, like, what's wrong with me? Or whatever, because there's no, like, perfect terminology for it. But what I will say is what I have learned is, you know, I have had stomach issues my whole life. So IBS I've had my whole life, which I don't think I've ever had vertical that I verbally shared that, but I've had that since I was a kid, which therefore shows you that I've already had, like, some gut issues and everything. My whole life, Crohn's has been. In my family, we really thought I had Crohn's, but I've never tested positive where that I'm not. I don't have celiac, so I'm. I'm not gluten free, but I have a gluten intolerance. And I don't test positive for having, like, celiac disease, but I'm right on that marker, you know, and so. So that's just a little bit of gut things then when it comes to hormones, you know, I always struggled with my cycle and not having a regular cycle. We were infertility with Blake and all these things. And I did go on birth control, you know, back then, I don't know. Like, before I met Adam, I was maybe like 17, 18 years old when I got on birth control to help with these, like, off the chart cycles and periods and stuff. Like, there was no, not enough knowledge coming to me or me, like, investigating at that time. To me, it was just like, okay, get on this and it'll help you. And that's what I did. And now that I'm a mom of six girls, I'm like, absolutely not. We will not be doing that. Anyway, so I was on birth control for a while, you know, and then up until. Went off of it, obviously, when we got married. When I have kids, all these things. Went through infertility, yada, yada, yada. Long story. Had pcos. Always, always having cyst form on my ovaries and rupturing and incomplete or just cycles off the chart, like never knowing when they're going to come. Having to go on medication to help me have a regular cycle to be able to try to get pregnant and then speed all that up. After I had the quints, my body went into this, like, overdrive, actually. It struggled without me being aware, you know, at that time, I'm pregnant with the quince. My Body is working in major, major. You know, it's trying to provide for six people at one time and myself with five babies in my belly. And my body is like just overworking, overworking, overworking, trying and trying.
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I mean, it's almost like it put your body into like this fight or flight.
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Yeah.
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Like, mode that it just like stayed engaged for years.
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Yeah. And. And I think, you know, this is. This is part of our. This is funny. We're talking about this because like, the quints are doing like this science project with like instinctual behaviors versus in learned behaviors and instinct versus reflex and all these things. But I think by nature and the way God's created us as women is for our bodies to be able to do and be women and to grow these babies and to birth them and to provide for them and. And our bodies are built to go through that. I did it on a high capacity, and once I had the quince, my body was definitely shocked because it was. It went from providing for six to like, just pulled everything out. And now you've one heartbeat that you're providing for and like, literally, you know, pumping blood, circulating, feeding your body. And so I went through, you know, a lot of my uterus was basically like destroyed and never went back to its normal, normal state after a couple years and having extreme cycles and just non stop bleeding and bleeding and bleeding. And I was breastfeeding, I was pumping. And so usually that's something that helps your uterus contract and go back down and that you don't really bleed. Well, not me. I was having it all over the place, bleeding, and so had to have a hysterectomy years after that, which therefore then affects my hormones in my body because I'm now removing an organ out. And so my doctor now thinks a lot of my struggles internally that I'm facing today have happened since the hysterectomy. Now I think a lot of it can. A lot of it is true when it comes to, like, the depletedness of a lot of, like, vitamins and minerals and how, you know, blood flow and blood platelets and thyroid and adrenaline and, you know, your cortisol and all those things. Everything is connected. Everything is connected. And so she has really helped me try to understand, and I'm still trying to understand how those all, like, work together. Work together. And what Adam kind of said is that we can't just like, dump all this stuff in. You got to build this up so that this will work, so that these are working together so that when we get to the Third level, these work and that, you know, so if I explain that when, you know, my cortisol, my adrenal glands shut down, I have zero cortisol, my adrenal glands shut down. Therefore, my body is really struggling, which it got all the way to my thyroid. And my thyroid has not been properly working. It has gotten to the point where it shut down. And so one side of my thyroid is getting big. And, you know, because it's just saying, we can't do this anymore. We're struggling. And we're talking years after, you know, having the quints and years after them. Me being out of that fight or flight mode where I was literally living on adrenaline and, you know, people watching out daughtering, and I'm so skinny and stuff. And I look back at that and I say I was living off adrenaline, and I think I was very malnourished. I wasn't. I still needed to. When I was pregnant with the quints, I had to 4,500 calorie diet. And when I was mom in the quintuplets in Blake, I still needed to be taking that high level of calories. Maybe not 4,500, but I was lucky enough to be on a standard 18, 2000 calorie diet. If you look, I was just so malnourished. I look at myself and I'm like, I was so malnourished. But everybody says, oh, you're great. You're skinny and you look muscular and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, I may have felt fine, but I was not internally, I wasn't. And always been petite and, you know, thinner, whatnot. But from people watching on the show to, you know, thinking, that's still me. And it's been 10 years, it's been four, three years since we've been off air almost, and a lot's changed. And I'm in my 40s. I've tried to, like, get off of a lot of, like, I got off of the testosterone. And so my body went into a reverse mode where everything is shutting. Everything is shut down. And on top of that, I had knee surgery. And so I don't have a lot of cartilage, and I have arthritis and stuff like that. So my body is. It is struggling. And I don't think a lot of people realize what it is. And I think you as a mom know that when we are down, we still have to do. And that is our instinct. It's very in. And I'm not speaking. Dads don't do the same, but I'm telling you, women do it differently, moms do it differently, because it is just like our nature that we do for. We just have to like, you just still have to do it, you know. And so long story short, even though that was kind of long, I wanted to share today where I'm at. What are all the things that I'm doing and taking that are helping get these levels back to a functioning state? And I've been with this doctor, I think a year and a half, and it's taken a year and a little over a year to actually get my thyroid. Literally at the lowest point, that's okay for my T3 and my T4. I'm now at the marker where like
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registering on the scale, it.
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It hits like I'm at like a level of like, wow, you're actually have a thyroid that's doing something now. And to get to that point, I've been on thyroid medicine. So I take like MP thyroid and I take levothyroxicine or something like that level. Rock the theme. Can't say it right. Let me get my notes. I say these things correctly.
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I mean, I'd probably read it and still pronounce it wrong. A lot of these words, especially like medications and stuff, it's.
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Yeah. So I take Empathyroid and what that's doing is provides hormones for the T3 and the T4. So it's trying to help produce. It's not making enough. I need help trying to get it produced because once again, my thyroid has shut down. Why did my thyroid shut down? Because my adrenal glands shut down. Why did my adrenal gland shut down? Because my hormones were. Were all off whack and everything. And so I have to be able to get my hormones level to then get my adrenaline glands to be function again, which therefore I need my cortisol to start working and doing things for that so that my thyroid can be fed what it needs to work. And then I take levothyroxine and that is providing just other supportive to stabilize I think the thyroid and like other hormones to help make them work. So I take both of those. A lot of doctors to focus a lot on T3, but I would recommend that if you do have some thyroid issues, make sure that they are checking your T4. So for the thyroid, which is a big gland and you know, it's in your. Sits in your throat and it is literally connected to everything I take. Hold on. So along with taking actual prescription, which was something that I was trying not to do when I started seeing this doctor. I feel like the only medication I was on and took off every prescription, everything except my. What I take for. It's like a three in one. I take it for, like, my nerve. A lot of my nerve function, myo, fibromyalgia, like, my muscular fibromyalgia, neuromuscular, like, muscle pains and in my neck and all that. And then my migraine preventative. It's called duloxetine. I've been taking that for years on a high dose because that's what my body needed. And I have slowly been trying to wean off of that because I have felt better, haven't been having migraines, but I still have to take it. And it's a drug that is not going to. It's not going to necessarily, like, it's not doing anything as harmful as other drugs would. Meaning, like my neurologist tells me, this is a safer drug. This is a safer drug to be on. It's not going to. It's okay that you still. If you had to take this the rest of your life. So the duloxetine, I've never really shared that word of the prescription that I take, but that is the medication that I do take that I've taken for probably four or five years by now. But it just helps regulate, like, the nerve pain and prevent me from getting these migraines. And it also helps because it's a nerve. It helps with nerve pain. Fibromyalgia and IBS are a lot of the same, in a sense, and so this has really helped just, like, the nerves around, like, the way my stomach and digestive tract has been functioning. I have been trying to wean off of this drug over the last last year and just been lower and lowering my doses. I'm on the lowest dose right now, and I definitely feel like it's not working. Like, I definitely think that I do need to go back on a higher dose because I've been seeing a lot of just changes, like within my IBS structure, headaches a little bit more. I've been taking that for a while. But along with improving a lot of things in my body, a lot of other minerals, I definitely have seen a better intake with how migraines are and like, what. What else I'm doing to help prevent those, which I will show in just a minute. So I take the thyroid medicine and then I do take the duloxetine. And what I take as a prescription for hormones is dhea, which a lot of people Take dhea. I've shared this on my Instagram stories before that there's different ways to take dhea because I've discovered that because I was having a lot of side effects that I didn't like. So, for instance, the first DHEA I took was. Was appeal. Was just like DHA appeals. And I did not like it. It was the easiest form to take to me, but I had side effects. I was just constantly having these major hot flashes, constant sweating pits at night, and just like waking up drenched. I was getting acne, which I've never really suffered with acne, but I was just getting random breakouts. It's like on my chest. And like, I was like, no, I will not. So come to find out. Let's. That could be the dhea. So I went to a oral DHEA supplement and these are the. The three things I shared on my story about dhea.
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I thought you said it was pill form.
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I'd started with the pill form and then I went to the oral because I was having this oral also, I switched. I no longer take the pill form of dha. I switch to the liquid form of dh.
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Liquid. Not from pill to liquid. They're both oral.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Sorry. I went from a pill to liquid taking meaning like in a medicine dropper. And I'm a strong person. I can take back anything I can swallow. Medicine, been doing it my whole life. And shots, Medicaid, like, nothing bothers me. And liquid dhea, it's gross. I almost want to go get it and let you smell it. And I literally. I. I couldn't do it. I could. I was like, this is the worst taste. And then it lingered in your mouth. You had to squeeze the dauber under your tongue. And it literally. I couldn't do it. I think I did it for about a week. And I'm just like, come on, Danielle, power through this. Like, you're. This is ridiculous. I'm like having these fights within my internal self. Like, it's just, you know, 2, 4 milligrams milliliter, like milli. Like super small amount. Just do it once a day. And it was literally so hard. So I shared that. And my doctors who's coma witch doctor was like, you don't have to suffer through that. Let's try the topical form. Let's try another form. And so therefore, we switched to a topical form, which is basically like a little lotion. And this is what's worked for me. It's just in a little tube. Twist the knob in our. Rub it on My inner like arm, like kind of like where your tricep would be, but like inner. And I will usually get out the shower or whatever and I'll just rub it there and by the time I'm like done drying my, like drying my hair, brushing my hair, whatever, it's dry, I get dressed or you can run it, rub it on your inner thigh just somewhere where you're not like, let me put on top of my arm or something where it would rub off on something. So I typically do it after the shower and it dries pretty quick and then I can get dressed or whatnot. So that has what has worked for me. We have had to adjust the different levels of the DHEA and the DHA is it just supports your hormone production so helps just balance energy, moods, you know, all those women things that we love. But I have a, an estrogen and progesterone problem because usually estrogen and progesterone kind of work. Like from what I'm understanding now, given I'm no medical professional, I'm taking in and trying to explain how I understand it. You know, different parts of your cycle, your estrogen goes up and then your, when you're off your cycle, it goes down, your progesterone comes up and it's kind of like does like this balance. What are you doing? Yeah. And so my estrogen and progesterone just never do that. Mine just like to just stay in the low section. They don't really increase and decrease. So that's why I'm taking this stuff to kind of help me cycle and regular. I don't necessarily have, you know, quote unquote period anymore since I've had a hysterectomy, but I still have these hormones that are off whack. So I take that to try to help regulate estrogen, progesterone and stuff. And it's still an investigation on the amount and everything. And so that's something that you just have to be close niche watching with your doctor so that you can be aware of how your body's reacting to something that you're taking and what that you know, level is because you need to have appropriate dosage and be in conversation with your doctor and don't just self do this. One thing that I take for inflammation is turmeric. That is just, you know, helps with joint pain and you know, inflammation and whatnot. And that's something I struggle with especially in my knees since I need to have another surgery on my knee with arthritis, joint pain, inflammation, I take turmeric I just take that once a day. Let me go back. I take magnesium at night. Helps to support, you know, muscle relaxation, support your sleep. That's another problem that I had, was just getting good quality sleep. I was restless, couldn't really sleep well. I would say now I can sleep and go to sleep, and if I do wake up, I can go back to sleep and still sleep. So that was. That's a good thing I was not able to do for a long time. So back onto the thyroid. Thyroid and hormone support. I take liquid iodine. And this is, I think the. The thyroid is, like, the. My biggest, like, area of, like, trying to get to function so that if I can build up all the little things and they're not little, I'm saying little because I look at it as, like, thyroids on top and all these other things that have shut down. I'm trying to slowly grow those up so the thyroid can work without having to take medication. And so everything is to support each other. So working on my hormones is therefore going to help support the adrenal gland and my cortisol, which therefore is going to help the hormone levels. Progesterone, estrogen, and then my thyroid. And I'm sorry if this all sounds extremely tiring to y', all, but I get asked this all the time, so I'm just trying to, like, share it all. Do with this what you want. So I take the liquid iodine just once a day under my tongue. This has been a different dosage over as my blood work has continuously shown improvements and whatnot in, like, my levels of thyroid and how my iodine is and how my iron is. This is just helping the thyroid function, that energy, that metabolism. I take selenium. So selenium you can take in multiple forms. I used to take it in the Brazil nuts, which I did not mind that. But ever since we moved, I kind of forgot about it. And so now I'm just like. Add the liquid selenium to my ritual at night where I just take all the things and the drops and liquids and all things. So this is just helps it to have, like, an active form, helps convert that thyroid hormone to be active and just kind of, like, work correctly. It's a small, small little drop, you know, like five mls that I do. Once again, at night, I also take liquid copper. So copper supports, like, an enzyme function. It helps, like, the body utilize the hormone. Once again, my thyroid has been so bad that I'm having. I am taking thyroid medication, but I'm also taking the These minerals that my body has been depleted of so that they can health, health, health, health healthily. How do I say that helpfully and healthy and health and health, I don't know. So that they can help support the thyroid, so that I can hopefully not have to take thyroid medicine, build these levels of minerals up so that thyroid can function properly without having to take the medication. And maybe I have to take it my whole life, I don't know. But the goal is, what we've said in the beginning was I might have to be on the thyroid medicine for about two years before my body can produce its own. And so I am slowly at the level where all the things that I've been taking in the thyroid medication where I'm like on the read, I'm on the scale factor of like, wow, we can see you're there with all this help and the thyroid medicine. So I still know I'm going to have to take it for quite a bit longer before I can wean off of it. But there's hope. So I know I'm doing better. I take vitamin D3 and K2, which another just immune system function helps support your hormones and calcium absorption for your bone health, mood and immune system. So that's something that I think in general is just healthy for everybody. Bo or other dog has made it to the scene and he was trying
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to figure out where Gus was.
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He's now on Adam's lap, standing, sleeping. And let's see, I take adrenal cortex, so this helps support the adrenal glands. Your stress response to things helps with fatigue and stress and like that burnout, cortisol. You know, building your cortisol is something that you need to do like get up, get outside, do exercise, all those things on my. I did a Dutch test which was it's this like 24 hour urine, spit, saliva test that you do. It's at home so you can ask to do this and this helps show how does my body go through a 24 hour period of what I intake? How does my body actually use it? And what am I, what is my body doing in my cortisol? And like usually your cortisol, like when you wake up, your high peak is like in the morning and then by the afternoon and stuff it slowly starts to go down. My cortisol was like literally flatline all day, all day, never went up, never went up. Out of all the things I do, everything never. So like my, my, my body is showing like immense amount of stress internally because everything is struggling just to Survive for everything. Like, when your thyroid tends to shut down, it means, like, you're. You're. You're living in fight or flight mode. Like, all your minerals, like, everything is shut down. And so I've just been on a struggle bus and just doing life and just going with it because I have to. But I've been miserable for a really, really long time. And it's hard to explain that. It's hard to, you know, have your loved ones understand. It's hard for Adam to, like, be a support to this, because I'm crazy, in a sense. You know, I'm struggling, I'm exhausted. I. I don't feel good. My body aches, my body hurts, my muscles hurts. And. And then therefore, all these things. What these things start to do is when you as me, as the woman, as going through these things, I start to feel crazy. I start to say no one understands me. And this is something that I need to really talk about on another episode. Is that how this affects your mental state? Because that is a main factor too, and how all these things affect you, because internally, you don't know how your body necessarily completely functions and works, and all these things that you do need to, you know, have it provide healthy for you. And I didn't know about. I didn't know my body needed copper. I didn't even know that was something that was even functioning in my body, you know, and so just all the things that I've learned, I'm still learning so much. And your body is incredible, like, organization, that all these things that are working together in such small capacity, but all are very much needed to work together. So what I did forget to mention was something that I learned probably about two years ago that before I really started, for my whole life, really ever since I've been. I also take vitamin D and B12. I have always been severely depleted in vitamin D, especially since after I've had kids. After Blake, my body has never been able to absorb and utilize and use even the medication that I was taking, even for vitamins. So what this means, along with other things, along with that means my body. I learned that via blood work and stuff. My body is not methylating. And I heard this word about two years ago, and I was like, huh, that's interesting word. And then when I started seeing my doctor, she started using this word, and I'm like, explain that to me. I've heard that. And so once my blood work was coming back and I'm taking all these things and my body's not showing Improvement. My body was basically saying it's not methylating. So what that means is that everything that you're taking, your body is not absorbing it. To provide the nutrition that your body needs, this could be done through vitamins, supplements, food. All the things my body is was just like, being like this hole. Like, I'm intaking all these things, and it's just like going down the garbage. There's no, like, wrestling in your body absorbing the nutrients it needs to properly and function. And so I had to start taking methylate complete, which was allowing my blood to breathe. Like, blood levels, blood oxygen, forming healthier cells within your blood to, like, let your body absorb what your body is actually needing. It is literally like a pathway. Like, how to. How does your body like detoxing and. And absorbing these vitamins? Because for so long, for years, guys, Blake's about to be 15. For years I've been so depleted, and I just take high levels of vitamin D, high levels of this. But what good does that do if your body is not absorbing it? So these are. That was, like, mind blowing to me to discover that that was something my body was struggling with. So something that I recommend you looking at. If you're one of these people that are like me, look into asking your doctor about, you know, methylation. And I take. I still take that. I don't have to take it every day now. So my body has been slowly building absorbent and getting better. And so I only have to take it once a week now. And I was taking it every single day. Just a little pill that dissolves in your tongue. And this just helps my body process the nutrition nutrients it's supposed to. And so I struggled with that for probably 15, 20 years and didn't even know it. So, you know, I think what I can do with a lot of these things, I do take two other things. I know I've been talking for way too long, and I hope this is all helpful. What I probably will do that will be beneficial for this podcast, I'll put a link, but maybe do a blog post with all this, with links and stuff for all the supplements to things I take. But I do take M Salt, which is just like this mineral salt under my tongue once a day. That also helps with, you know, electrolytes and establishing your, like, balances with your, like, trace of your minerals, and also helps with just those migraines. A lot of people ask me about migraines and stuff, and I tell them this. I'm like, I haven't had a migraine and probably like a full on migraine where I have to take my miracle migraine drug probably six months, at least six, eight months, which is huge. I get headaches, but I'm able to, I've been able to work the headache where I'm not getting to that level of a migraine. I think maybe I've had one migraine in the last six months. So I take M salt and then I take the cure hydration electrolytes every single day. We high knowing the pace of life that you know, I'm not even to say like if you're an athlete and you're doing extracurricular activities and sweating, it doesn't matter that like we in America just in general, like we don't provide enough hydration to our bodies. We're not drinking enough water. And I think our bodies need more, our bodies need more than just the water. You need to be replenishing the like electrolytes in your body. And I say that to everybody, whether you're an athlete or not. You, whatever you're doing in your day to day your stress levels, like all the things like you're depleting yourself and water is just not enough for us these days. And so, you know, we talk about cure hydration on our podcast and they support this podcast and because we use it, I use it daily, we believe in it and we support it and you know, thankfully they support this podcast and my doctor recommended it. Like it's so it's, it's what we talk about in the ads that you know, we do on our podcast. These are not just ads for us. They're like things that we use and things that we support and, and we're sharing for y' all and love when we can work together with the companies that you know, support the podcast. But they actually we're supporting them too, you know. So anyway, this is a lot. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of questions. I don't really know the best way to like Q and A through that, but I would love, you know, feedback. I'm been loving asking for it because I am getting a lot more like responses to like our podcast and talking about this. This is a huge topic that I think goes widespread and I'm sorry that I jibber jabber and might not have said it in the best way for you to understand, but it's just a lot and it just. I needed to get all this out. I needed to get all this out and one episode and state all these things and all the Things I take what they do, what they mean and why I'm taking them and how they've helped me and that I think it's helpful to a lot of other women and I think women are going through the same. A lot of women going through the same thing had hysterectomies who have high level stress, who don't methylate, who are not, you know, absorbing the nutrients that they need, that they constantly have been taking these things for years and they, you don't see a difference and all the things. And so I would love to continue on to the next podcast and talk about, you know, the mental state of this and how it has affected my body and the look of what's going on with the autoimmune and the change of that. So this podcast was mainly to say, hey, yes, I struggle with these things. I look different, these are the things that I'm doing. And, and you know, because I struggle with these things, I feel a whole, yes, I still have pains and I can't walk and I need knee surgery, but the fact that like I don't have my migraines, I, I can feel better day to day, better. I still struggle, but I feel better. I feel more alive. I feel like I feel differently. And a lot of it is because of these things that I just shared. Is it perfect? No. But am I, am I on a way to, am I increasing the way of life in, in survival and getting out of this survival mode? Absolutely. And so those are things that are working for me and I don't do a good enough job like keeping everybody on the go for it because a lot of it is like minor tweaks and changes. But this is everything that I've been taking for the last like year. So. So anyway, Adam's falling asleep on all this because he has no fell asleep. He has no
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Input on it. But next podcast we'll talk about how, how to do life like this as a supportive spouse. How can you be supportive? What does this mean and what does this mean for you as a woman when this affects your mental state and what you go through and how you can help yourself go through those things as your body changes as we get older and stuff like that. So yeah, stay tuned for that one. Hope I don't forget that. That's we're going to talk about. So need to make my notes for next week.
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Podcast Summary: More Than Reality with Adam and Danielle Busby
Episode 77 — Why Danielle Looks Different: The Truth About Her Health
Release Date: April 2, 2026
In this deeply candid episode, Adam and Danielle Busby tackle the most recurring and sensitive topic put forth by their audience: Danielle’s health, visible changes in her appearance, and her long journey through chronic illness and hormonal imbalance. Danielle opens up with rare vulnerability about her autoimmune struggles, treatments, and what life “off-camera” is really like. The episode is also a resource-rich conversation for other women facing similar health journeys.
Timestamps: 01:40–12:15
Timestamps: 20:25–21:34
Timestamps: 21:34–64:49
Danielle on public perception:
"Why does Danielle look fat?... My body has been damaged, and I'm no longer living on adrenaline and..." [21:34]
Adam’s “Dr. Fix Danielle” moment:
"I come across these random videos... I'm like, your doctor thought of this yet?" [23:16]
Danielle’s hard-won insight:
"What good does that [vitamin D] do if your body is not absorbing it? … That was, like, mind blowing to me." [54:10]
On motherhood and chronic illness:
"When we are down, we still have to do... That's our instinct. I'm not saying dads don't do the same, but women do it differently, moms do it differently..." [36:47]
On improvement:
"I feel better. I feel more alive. I feel like I feel differently. And a lot of it is because of these things that I just shared." [63:45]
Tone:
Open, unfiltered, relatable, and practical—balancing humor, candor, and authentic vulnerability.
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