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Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
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Tammy (Geico Subconscious News Host)
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Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
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Tammy (Geico Subconscious News Host)
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David Goggins
Feels good. It feels good to talk about that, man. It actually makes you feel good, makes you feel proud, all that. But guess what happens. That alarm clock goes off at 4am to train. I don't want to be a seal today, or I don't want to be whatever today, I'll start tomorrow. And that's the usual pattern of people's lives. Until you really want to do something, you always get be a talker. And it's going back to the Beast, going back to the demon. So when I went back to him, I realized that that was the unsolved mystery. At the end of the day, I asked myself one question, can I take one more step? And usually the answer is yes. So if you can answer that question and not take another step, that is real failure. That is real quitting. So a lot of people can take one more step, but they choose not to. I don't know if you can take two steps. You got to answer that question after you take the first step. But I can always take one more steps. If I choose not to, that's on me. I gotta live with that. But all the times that I was like, this is, I'm not going back. I went back, I'm not going back. And I went back, I'm not going back. And I went back. It showed me even more of what we have as humans, if we're willing to Go there and we're willing to push that extra step. So for me, this was the new level. Let's not quit yet, guys. Let's think about your options. Where are you going to end up if you quit this?
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
Where are you going to go?
David Goggins
What's amazing about the human mind is that it becomes your new norm. Like to. To think that I can run 200 miles, 240 miles, and that becomes like running 50. I never thought that was possible. This is why I'm. I'm always pushing that limit. Because I know that within pushing these limits there's always more. But what it did was it showed me what is possible. And that's what set the new stage for me. That's when I realized, oh man, I've really been underachieving my entire life. But it taught me when it's possible. Because we all think about quitting, it's hard. It's hard to process information during pain because that pain takes over and you can't think rationally. You're thinking about fight or flight. Save yourself. That's not a rational thought. It's not a thought that's going to get you through hard times. But there's a lot of thought behind a person being a born loser. Becoming who I am today. You'll just wake up and just rocky. You gotta wake up and think about, you know, there's a process to getting better. And that process is never finished.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
And.
David Goggins
But people don't want to go through the process of focus, of teaching yourself how to truly focus. I am literally, I was the lowest form on earth. No talent, no ability to learn. And I literally know what it is to be rock bottom and to build that up. It's like whether you believe in God or not. I do. He put this lab rat, which is me, on this planet and said, let me. Like running is running. It sucks. But you have a choice to make. Do you want to sit down and go back to that guy you once were?
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
No.
David Goggins
So this is what it takes.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
It seems like, especially with confidence, right. Or self esteem. There's a relationship between confidence and competence. So what you're looking to do is try and have what you believe that you can do be ahead of what you can do. You're not looking for it to be delusional. You don't want it to be able to believe that you can do something like fly. Right. But you need to have a relationship between the two. But what people are asking for is for their confidence to be so far ahead of their competence that without Having even been competent at anything in the beginning. And that's just delusion. That's fantasy.
David Goggins
Build belief. Belief is like there's an after School special belief where the mom says, believe in yourself. And that's all great, but there's also a built belief. Like, for me, I came from a bad place. How I build belief is through the. The daunting tasks I put myself through. So that's proof positive that I can. So it correlates. And that's how this piece of kid I once thought I was built belief by saying I was. In three hell weeks. I went to Ranger school. I tried out for Delta selection.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
Undeniable stack of proof.
David Goggins
That is proof, mother.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
So whenever you think, whenever you think you can't.
David Goggins
Confidence comes from the thing that you built. You must build belief. You must build confidence. It can't be like, hey, I'm going to knock that out. You got to look over here and say, I can knock that out. It's belief, and it's built on what you put in to yourself. It starts with yourself, man. You got to start diving into those
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
things that you are afraid of. You don't gain confidence by going to the spot that makes you feel good. It could be a false reality. And the second life gives you that challenge. All you want to do is go back to what made you confidence or what gave you confidence. Is that happy spot? No, what gave me confidence was spending years at a kitchen table trying to
David Goggins
learn how to read and write on
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
my own, Realizing I can't learn the way you learn. I can't, but I can learn. What gives you confidence? Not being afraid is overcoming the fear. That's what gives me confidence, is facing these things, overcoming them. And maybe not overcoming them every day, but facing them and facing them and facing pretty soon like this.
David Goggins
You know what, man?
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
This is where it's at. It's not in that comfort zone. It's in the discomfort zone. Is where my confidence is getting built. That's where it's getting built. But people want to. They want an easier answer. Yeah, there has to be an easier way.
David Goggins
There's not. I'm sorry. I searched for it my entire life.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
I did. I lied. I did everything. And I still felt empty. You never examine this happiness, peace, enlightenment, it's all up here, man. It's all up here.
David Goggins
It's all up here. You just gotta be willing to go and face it. And that's the hard part. Where most people quit. I just started. And when you take that mindset and you learn to Flip that around. That's what made me powerful and my body followed. Failure, Hell, disappointment, discomfort is a great learning tool and many people don't understand that. It's these few moments in life that you have. Like for me, I always talk about it. Rocky 1 Round 14. That 12 minute and 13 second clip of Rocky getting up when Apollo knocked him down. That one clip when I was going
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
through a very bad time.
Grainger Commercial Announcer
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Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
Best thing that's ever happened to you financially.
David Goggins
Go easy.
Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
Sold my car on Carvana. Amazing offer, really.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
I hit 200 on a scratcher.
Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
Did the scratcher come to your house and hand you a check?
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
No.
Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
How many scratchers did you hit to get that? I hit a button on Carvana.com once.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
Okay, that's fair.
Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
It's like the lottery, except you always win.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
Not like the lottery at all, actually.
Art Palpitations (Geico Subconscious News Reporter)
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David Goggins
In my life, I saw what I wanted to be. It wasn't a guy that won. It wasn't a guy that won everything he did. It was a guy that kept getting up after being knocked down. So I realized if that 2 minutes and 13 seconds changed my life. So I was. I saw something that I needed to be in the world I was living in. Maybe my story will give someone the 2 minutes and 13 seconds they need to change their life.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
Everybody's got a story. We don't share it on social media.
David Goggins
We share our nice life on social media.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
We all have a dungeon.
David Goggins
I'm just willing to talk about mine.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
I don't care how you perceive David Goggins. Because through my journey, I figured out the one piece I was missing. I thought it was cars.
David Goggins
I thought it was women.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
I thought it was money. I thought it was everything. The one piece I was missing was me having the courage to face myself. Where I got my work ethic from was the hours I had to spend learning this. When you sit down and you're not smart and you have a disability and you still want to be at the
David Goggins
top of your class. I didn't want to skip by when I realized that I can learn through
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
hard work and I can beat the valedictorian in school, but I got put in 10 hours more a day than he does. You know what kind of strength comes from that when you're sitting down? That guy that. That valedictorian study for an hour and you know, I caught you. I caught you, and I am dumb, but I have the work ethic to catch you. That's where David Gaga's got really invented was at a kitchen table with 20 spiral notebooks that were empty, and then three months later, they were full. And when you can go through that, I still have them in my storage unit. You go through these spiral notebooks of your life and you realize, this is how I learned. This is unbelievable. Why is the truth so important?
David Goggins
You have to have the truth to have a starting point. And your true self is found honestly in that very uncomfortable zone. We all look for toughness. We all want it, but we look for it in a comfortable environment. You will not find toughness in a comfortable environment. Those of you who are listening to this, whoever hear this, you will not find it.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
I was trying to look for it everywhere. The only way you find it is to drown yourself in a position where
David Goggins
you're just out of sorts.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
But you say, you know what, ma'?
Tammy (Geico Subconscious News Host)
Am?
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
That once you come face to face
David Goggins
with who you are, you have a starting point. I was born David Goggins. David Goggins wasn't good enough. He was a scared, bullied, abused kid who struggled in life. And that kid, whenever something got tough, no matter how hard I trained, no matter how ready I was, whenever something got tough for me, David Goggins, the real David Goggins, would come out and he would quit. So I realized this over a period of time. So I had to build Goggins. And in that process, that's where I get better. You have to be your best self and your least motivated. And that's the tricky part about all that. Motivation is just a word. You have to have these different things in your mind on where you want to go. And know that motivation is not going to get me there, because I'm not going to always be motivated.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
Jocko said the exact same thing. He said that discipline eats motivation for breakfast.
David Goggins
And discipline is good, too, but without a clear headspace, there's no discipline.
Jocko Willink or Motivational Speaker
What do you mean?
David Goggins
So let's say we have a circuit breaker, okay? And I'm loading everything up to one Circuit. Just load it up. It's gonna blow once that thing blows, man. The circuit. So look, you gotta have each thing plugged into the right spot. Like a crowded garage. You can't put anything in it once your brain is crowded. Discipline is great. Motivation is great.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
But if you can't fit in your
David Goggins
brain because it's all cluttered with, there's no discipline. So a lot of people talk about discipline. Okay, great.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
Why do you fall off the wagon? Why can't I continue with this routine?
David Goggins
Going to the gym, being better, waking up early, eating the right foods. It's because maybe it's your kids, maybe it's your wife, maybe it's your job,
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
and it's all just stuck in your brain.
David Goggins
You don't have it compartmentalized and organized in these nice shelves.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
So where am I going to put discipline in that mind if I can't find other. You got to be able to find
David Goggins
all these different things in your mind. Oh, I can put discipline right there. I can put consistency right there. I can put all these things right there in that spot. If your life is not organized and your life being everything around you because it takes one little piece of outside interference to clutter your whole mind, that was the biggest thing. I had to stop caring what people thought about me.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
I realized that everybody's up.
David Goggins
That's the one thing I realized.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
I walked around and I put these people on a pedestal. Everybody was better than me. So I can't tell you anything about
David Goggins
me because you're going to judge me
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
and I'm going to feel even worse
David Goggins
than what I am.
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
What I realized, once I calmed my mind down and sat back and looked
David Goggins
at how jacked up this world is, once you realize that you are not
Interviewer or Conversation Partner
alone, everybody that's talking to you about how jacked up you are, only thing they've done better than you is they've hidden their world better than you have. That's all they've done.
David Goggins
Most of us fail in life because we're afraid of what everyone around you is thinking. That's 100% truth. So we live by the narrative of other people. When I first called a recruiter to be a Navy SEAL and I was 297 pounds, the first recruiter looked at me and said, you're not going to be able to make this man. So what he was doing was he's projecting his energy on me. He knew he couldn't be a Navy seal, so God helped this black guy. Because I was only the 36th African American to make it through in over 70 years. How's this black fat guy gonna make it through in my he wouldn't even really try. So he's projecting it. So a lot of us who are negative people, all we do is project how we feel on other people. So what happens is there's a lot of negative people walking on the planet earth who are afraid to try because everybody, a lot of people are very negative in this world. So we are afraid to fail. Why? I told you, man. Shouldn't even try to. Dude, just chill out. Relax. Why are you so crazy? Why are you so obsessed? So all that stuff drives the quitting mind. I call it the mind wants to quit. The mind is tired. The mind is tired. The mind is deserving. The mind thinks it's very deserving. So yes, the the biggest problem in this world is other people, not yourself. It's other people in your head. They are puppet mastering you pretty much on your life.
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Episode: David Goggins – People Are Hiding Things Too (Motivational Speech)
Host: The Mindset Guru
Guest: David Goggins (with appearances by Jocko Willink and Interviewer)
Date: July 2, 2026
This episode dives into the relentless mindset of David Goggins—retired Navy SEAL, endurance athlete, and best-selling author—on the realities of persistence, self-doubt, and authentic growth. Goggins shares personal stories about pushing through pain, building authentic confidence, confronting deep personal truths, and how society’s expectations often drive us to hide our true selves. The discussion challenges listeners to find strength in discomfort, value discipline over fleeting motivation, and understand that everyone carries a "dungeon" of hidden struggles. The energy is raw, candid, and deeply rooted in Goggins' hard-won life lessons.
Goggins describes the recurring battle between intention and action: People often start with pride and motivation, but when it’s uncomfortable (like the 4am alarm for training), the average response is to postpone or quit.
"At the end of the day, I asked myself one question, can I take one more step? And usually the answer is yes... If I choose not to, that's on me. I gotta live with that." — David Goggins (01:22)
He emphasizes that most real quitting comes not from inability, but from the unwillingness to try that next step. Growth means consistently pushing past perceived limits.
Pushing through pain reshapes your limits:
"To think that I can run 200 miles, 240 miles, and that becomes like running 50... In pushing these limits there's always more. But what it did was it showed me what is possible." — David Goggins (02:30)
Key insight: True improvement is never finished. The process itself—of facing pain and uncertainty—becomes the proving ground for resilience.
Authenticity over empty affirmations:
"How I build belief is through the daunting tasks I put myself through. So that's proof positive that I can... that is proof, mother—" — David Goggins (04:53, 05:34)
Notable exchange on growth:
“There's a relationship between confidence and competence... What people are asking for is for their confidence to be so far ahead of their competence—that's just delusion.” (04:24)
True confidence comes from confronting what scares you:
“What gives you confidence? Not being afraid is overcoming the fear. That's what gives me confidence, is facing these things... And maybe not overcoming them every day, but facing them and facing them and facing pretty soon...” — Interviewer (06:30)
Goggins reflects on years spent teaching himself to read and write as a metaphor for self-created confidence.
Everyone hides pain; facing yours is the start:
“We share our nice life on social media... We all have a dungeon. I'm just willing to talk about mine.” — David Goggins (09:49, 09:53)
You must face your truths to begin your journey:
Motivation fades, and without a clear, organized mind, even discipline fails.
Goggins likens the mind to a crowded garage or overloaded circuit—unless organized, it can’t handle the load required for change.
Quote:
“Discipline is great. Motivation is great. But if you can't fit in your brain because it's all cluttered with... there's no discipline.” — David Goggins (13:23)
Jocko Willink notes: “Discipline eats motivation for breakfast.” Goggins agrees, but stresses that a clear mental state is the foundation. (12:43-12:48)
Most people fail because of fear—fear of judgment, not of difficulty:
He shares the story of being doubted when applying for Navy SEALs due to being overweight and a minority, illustrating how others’ projections can limit us if we let them (15:02-16:25).
On Quitting and Taking One More Step
“If you can answer that question and not take another step, that is real failure. That is real quitting.” — David Goggins (01:22)
On Building Proof of Your Strength
“Build belief. Belief is like there's an after school special belief... But there's also a built belief... that's proof positive that I can.” — David Goggins (04:53)
On True Confidence
“Realizing I can't learn the way you learn. I can't, but I can learn... Not being afraid is overcoming the fear... facing them and facing them and facing pretty soon.” — Interviewer (06:30)
On Facing Your Truth
“You have to have the truth to have a starting point. And your true self is found honestly in that very uncomfortable zone.” — David Goggins (11:15)
On Discipline vs. Mental Clarity
“So let's say we have a circuit breaker, okay?... It's gonna blow, once that thing blows, man... Discipline is great... But if you can't fit in your brain because it's all cluttered... there's no discipline.” — David Goggins (12:54–13:23)
On Judgment and Vulnerability
“The only thing they've done better than you is they've hidden their world better than you have. That's all they've done.” — Interviewer (14:49)
David Goggins’ message is a masterclass in uncommon accountability and unapologetic honesty. He urges listeners to step outside comfort, confront personal truths, and understand that setbacks are a sign to push further. Confidence is not a gift—it’s forged through action, discomfort, and facing inner demons that most people work hard to hide. The show leaves listeners with the charge to choose discipline, organize their minds, and realize that the real obstacle isn’t pain or adversity, but the hidden narratives—often from others—that keep us from our highest potential.