Matthew McConaughey - What's the Bigger Risk | Motivational Speech

Summary

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Motivate Me: Inspirational Speeches

Host: The Mindset Guru
Guest: Matthew McConaughey
Episode: What’s the Bigger Risk | Motivational Speech
Date: July 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a powerful and introspective conversation with Matthew McConaughey about risks, resilience, and the true meaning of self-fulfillment. McConaughey shares firsthand stories, including his breakaway from romantic comedies, and philosophical reflections on the cycles of failure, risk-taking, self-honesty, hope, and satisfaction. The tone is reflective yet energizing, focusing on actionable wisdom for living a more authentic, intentional, and meaningful life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Redefining Risk & Persistence

[01:00 – 03:00]

• McConaughey challenges the traditional definition of courage as just persistence.
  • Quote:

    "What's the bigger risk? Carrying on when it’s going well or taking the deeper dive? ... The problem with just getting up and going every time is you make the same mistakes each time around because you never backed up."
    — McConaughey, [01:05]

• He emphasizes the necessity of pausing to reflect, even if it means letting others get ahead, to avoid self-sabotaging cycles.

2. Sacrifice & Privilege

[03:05 – 04:30]

• True sacrifice today is about long-term freedom, but he acknowledges it's a luxury:
  • Quote:

    "I understand that's a luxurious position ... I'm trying to put food on the table right now and pay my rent tonight. You want to talk to me about investing in my future? I'm trying to feed family tonight."
    — McConaughey, [03:50]

• For those struggling, hope and small goals are essential to movement; without hope, stagnation is guaranteed.

3. The Courage to Go All In

[04:35 – 06:00]

• McConaughey urges listeners not to “half-ass” pursuits, but to fully commit:
  • Quote:

    "When you half-ass something you just don't know whether you failed or succeeded. ... Finding out and looking in the mirror and going, I didn't half-ass it ... that's a great place to get to."
    — McConaughey, [05:00]

• Self-deception and lack of holding oneself accountable are exposed as frequent pitfalls.

4. Be Full of Yourself – In a Good Way

[06:00 – 07:10]

• Challenges the negative connotation of being "full of yourself":
  • Quote:

    "Someone said this to me before, 'Matthew, you're so full of yourself.' ... I was like, well, who else am I supposed to be full of?"
    — McConaughey, [06:20]

• Owning both victories and failures fosters true growth.

5. Science of Satisfaction vs. The Guarantee of Happiness

[07:15 – 08:00]

• While happiness can’t be promised, habits can be developed to minimize pain and increase satisfaction.

6. Self-Compassion vs. Self-Critique

[08:00 – 09:00]

• Comparison between being supportive to others and harsh to oneself.
  • Interviewer:

    "You will happily bestow this sort of gentle, reassuring pat on the shoulder when somebody succeeds or falls short... Yet ... you give yourself a kick on the way out ..."
    — [08:30]

  • McConaughey reflects on guilt and the importance of turning the page:

    "Guilt and regret kills many a man before their time. So turn the page. Get off the ride. You are the author of the book of your life."
    — [09:00]

7. Living Forward, Understanding in Reverse

[09:05 – 10:00]

• Life only makes sense looking backwards; value is found in reflecting on one's journey.
  • Quote:

    "When you look back ... it's mathematical, scientific, how we got to this table right here, it's all connected."
    — McConaughey, [09:50]

8. Know Who You’re Not

[10:05 – 10:45]

• McConaughey borrows from Bob Dylan and advocates for eliminating what you’re not first, as a process of discovering who you are:
  • Quote:

    "It's so much easier to figure out who you're not. And if you start eliminating the who I'm not ... you end up moving towards who more of what feeds you and who you are."
    — [10:15]

9. Alchemizing Hard Times into Growth

[10:50 – 11:50]

• McConaughey admits optimism can sometimes be a trick he plays on himself, but unwavering faith that “this isn’t all there is” keeps hope alive.
• He portrays challenges and mistakes as opportunities for reflection and change rather than as defining failures.

10. Bottling the Good Times

[11:55 – 12:45]

• When things go well, McConaughey tries to study and replicate what worked, sometimes literally creating lists of his habits and attitudes during peak performance.

11. The Longevity vs. Quality Paradox

[12:45 – 13:50]

• Questions the obsession with lifespan at the expense of life quality:
  • Quote:

    "I'm for it. The longevity. I'm for it. But in the pursuit of it, are we measuring quality of life along the way? ... Real success is when you have profit. ... Quality time left in this life."
    — McConaughey, [13:40]

12. Repetition of Mistakes and Self-Trust

[16:11 – 18:00]

• Recognizes the “living hell” is not just making mistakes, but repeating them, losing self-trust and reputation:
  • Quote:

    "If you lose your reputation with yourself, if you no longer trust you... I keep making promises ... I don't trust me anymore."
    — Interviewer, [17:18]

13. McConaughey’s Own Leap: Career Risk

[17:53 – 20:24]

• Shares the story of leaving lucrative rom-coms to pursue deeper work:
  • Quote:

    "I did honestly think I'd written myself a one way ticket out of Hollywood ... I did look at other vocations ... But over time ... that risk took it. I think it's fair to say that took a fair amount of courage from me."
    — McConaughey, [19:13]

• The importance of support and believing in one's vision even when others doubt you.

14. Vitality in Life vs. Work

[20:24 – 22:32]

• Discusses phases when work feels more vital than life, and how writing became a way to rebalance inner growth.

15. Time on Our Side—Not in a Hurry

[22:32 – 26:11]

• Pushes against the modern rush for productivity and endless data:
  • Quote:

    "Be quick but don't be in a hurry. You will miss things. ... When we're feeling like we're dancing with time, I know I'm usually getting more done at the same pace."
    — McConaughey, [24:52]

• Warns about the meaninglessness of constant input and the loss of “the theme” in our lives.

16. Soul vs. Data in the Information Age

[26:10 – 27:28]

• Reflects on the lack of true depth and meaning even as access to information explodes, urging the importance of soul, rhythm, and connection.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Self-Reflection:

  "You are the author of the book of your life."
  — McConaughey, [09:00]

• On Hope:

  "If you can find something, something that no matter how small to look forward to and continually have faith in and chase, well then your life here is going to be better."
  — McConaughey, [03:50]

• On Self-Accountability:

  "I wish more people were more full of themselves. … I think we should take some time to look in the mirror and own that thing that we pulled off and go, good job."
  — McConaughey, [06:30]

• On Repeating Mistakes:

  "There is a unique sort of circle of hell that is reserved for when you keep on making the same mistake over and over again."
  — Interviewer, [16:11]

• On Living Well:

  "I'm for it. The longevity. I'm for it. But ... are we measuring quality of life along the way? ... Profit measures quality with the quantity."
  — McConaughey, [13:40]

• On the Paradox of Modern Information:

  "They are with all these podcasts, with all these wealth of information ... Do people sound smarter to you? ... Me neither. It all sounds dumber."
  — McConaughey, [26:00]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:00] Redefining Risk & The Courage to Pause
• [03:50] Privilege, Sacrifice, and Hope
• [06:20] Owning Your Wins (& “Being Full of Yourself”)
• [09:00] Own Your Story, Turn the Page
• [10:15] Eliminating Who You’re Not
• [13:40] Longevity vs. Quality of Living
• [16:11] Repetition of Mistakes: “Circle of Hell”
• [17:53] McConaughey’s Career Risk Story
• [20:24] When Work Feels More Vital Than Life
• [22:32] Time on Our Side, Not in a Hurry
• [24:52] “Be Quick But Don’t Be in a Hurry”
• [26:00] Modern Information: Data vs. Soul

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Final Thoughts

The conversation is a blend of story, confession, and advice, delivered in McConaughey’s practical yet philosophical style. It urges listeners to fully engage with life, embrace honest self-knowledge, and measure success not just by numbers or time, but by the soul and quality infused into every moment. The episode leaves listeners with a pressing question: What’s the bigger risk—staying comfortable, or daring to find out what more your life could be?

Transcript

[Interviewer]

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[Guest/Thought Leader]

Let me just ask you this, Mr. Risk Taker. What's the bigger risk? Carrying on might get going and it's going well or taking the deeper dive. I grew up only knowing sort of the courage of the persistence. You're resilient, endure. Get up, dust yourself off, go. The problem with that, the Achilles heel with that is if you get up and get the courage to keep on going every time and get and dust yourself off, you make the same mistakes each time around because you never backed up. To have what I've now learned, I'm still learning is the courage to go, no, I'm going to let some people pass me in the race right now because I'm going to look at why I keep stepping in that damn same pothole and twisting my ankle the same spot. Why I keep failing when I try to get that next spot in this relationship or failing in this place to get this product of my craft to the next. There's a time for everything. And for everything, you reap that, will you sow. There's a time to kill. There's a time to live. There's a time to plant. There's a time to gather. And you need both. You know, I sit here with a life where I have the luxury to ask myself and ask others, no, make a sacrifice today. Sacrifice something today for more freedom tomorrow. Sacrifice something today for a possible healthier future for your kids. I understand that's a luxurious position. I'm not Going to apologize that I'm in. I'm in it, but I understand to someone in misery, they're going to. There's a. It's a privilege, man. I'm trying to put food on the table right now and pay my rent tonight. You want to talk to me about investing in my future? I'm trying to feed family tonight. I'm not thinking past that. I can't think past that. Well, if you don't have the hope or believe in something, you're going to end up. You're going to definitely going to remain where you are. And if you have hope and faith in something, I'm not saying it's 100% get out of jail, you're going to absolutely get out but you got the best chance to. And what if there is nothing there, man? What if there's nothing to hope for? What if there's no next? I don't know. But either way, not having any hope or faith than anything is a certain way to remain where you are. But if you can find something, something that no matter how small to look forward to and continually have faith in and chase, well then your life here is going to be better. Now if you're going to do it, do it. Say what you can do, do what you say you can't do it. Don't say you can do it. Don't overleverage yourself. Don't over leverage a decision and then jump in and kind of dip a toe. I think I'll try it out now think if you're going to try it out beforehand. But when it's time to go dive, finish it, find out, come out the other side, don't leave it and go, oh, if I just would. That keeps me up at night. I think it keeps a lot of us up at night. When you have ass something you just don't know whether you failed or succeeded, got what you want or didn't get what you want. Finding out and looking and in the mirror and going, I didn't half asset. I went all the way. I found out and that ain't for me or I found out and you damn, that is for me. That's a great place to get to. I think part of the challenges in life is a lot of us are running around half assing ourselves, half fooling ourselves, not full of ourselves, not studying ourselves enough, not holding ourself to task enough, not patting our own self on the back when we do get what we want enough. Not cracking our own whip on our backside when we do get out of line. Even though we knew better. I wish we were more full of ourselves that way. Someone said this to me before, Matthew, you're so full of yourself. And I, without thinking, I was like, well, who else am I supposed to be full of? That's a good line. And I stopped. Ever. I was like, that's exactly what I meant. I wrote that down. I wish more people were more full of themselves. I think we should take some time to be able to look in the mirror and own that thing that we pulled off and go, good job. That's what you wanted. That's what you got. At the same time, be able to, as we do more often, look in the mirror when we fail and go bogey, Give others and yourself more credit. Happiness. You can't guarantee it, but there is a science to satisfaction there. You can look at habits that engineered less pain in your life, maybe more pleasure, but at least less pain. And that's. That's a win.

[Interviewer]

So much easier to be supportive and gentle of other people than of ourselves. You know? You will happily bestow this sort of gentle, reassuring pat on the shoulder when somebody succeeds or falls short when they tried their best. Yet given the fact that you tried your best, you give yourself a kick on the way out of the door and a harsh word to follow you.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Yep, because I got myself in the pickle. Because things didn't go how I wanted it to go or how I believed it could go. Life's the ironic tragedy. Life is pain. I'm the reason that I stepped in, which is also an asset. Even if someone go, why are you giving yourself so much credit for screwing that up? We're gonna make mistakes. You gotta own them, Then you gotta make amends, and then you gotta move on. Guilt and regret kills many a man before their time. So turn the page. Get off the ride. You are the author of the book of your life. There are habits that I notice of things I take care of in my life. Health wise, faith wise, father wise, husband wise. If I'm doing that consistently, there's less valleys.

[Interviewer]

The ironic tragedy is that life has to be lived forward, but only makes sense in reverse.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

When you look back, we go. We can all connect. Every single.it's mathematical, scientific, how we got to this table right here, it's all connected. If we go back and look at it and there's a whole lot of. I thought that was the end. Well, it was the end, but it was the beginning of this thing. What you're leaning into is that mystery going forward Right, that ironic Chinese that you have something to push off the. Well, I don't know what I do want, but I do know I don't want that. You have leverage.

[Interviewer]

Yes.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

You know, it's there. You know, we always say, well, who are you? You know, I want you to figure out who you are. And we ask. I tried to. I tried to ask my kids that. Now, well, I want you to know who you are now. Part of that who's helped me is Bob Dylan's lines, like, I don't know what all this talks about who we are, man. We are all just what we create ourselves to be. And that gives me a little. Oh, that's relaxing.

[Interviewer]

But the.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

It's so much easier to figure out who you're not. And if you start eliminating the who I'm not by sheer mathematics, you end up moving towards who more of what feeds you and who you are. And it's a hell of a lot easier thing to go, how can I get rid of some bullshit in my life than it is to go, well, how do I go to my true self?

[Interviewer]

Do I want to press the accelerator more quickly, or do I want to take my foot off the can break?

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Sometimes the hard work and the endurance and the elbow grease, the work harder. We were talking about that hustle is not the way out. Sometimes it's, I need to back up, laugh, have a sip of my favorite whatever, and dance my way through the raindrops out of this sun. And even looking at the things that are bad and going, oh, thank you. Appreciate that.

[Interviewer]

I think one of the themes of your worldview that I've become familiar with is alchemizing bad times into good ones. A reminder that things that seem bad can end up being good. How can people, or how do you have more of that perspective during a hard time?

[Guest/Thought Leader]

I probably start off intellectualizing something that I know I probably should believe in, but don't believe in it and convince myself, even to an extent, to trick myself that, you know, to sit here and go, well, you just tell yourself, this too shall pass. Okay, great. Well, what the hell's that mean? Even if it's true, in the moment, you're like, what are you talking about, man? I'm in the debit section. I'm in. I'm. I'm in a warning section. I'm. I'm.

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[Guest/Thought Leader]

This sucks. I. I think that how much I'm conscious of it or not, my undeniable optimism and faith that this isn't all it is. And if it is, oh, so what? That. That. That's okay. Well then really, so what? You know what I mean. What's the big deal? It minimizes. I don't. I seem to have a tendency not to make a bigger deal out of things that other people make a bigger deal. Dramas. I don't like to create false drama when it comes in a tard. I am affected. I get the blues, I get sad, I get mad. I'm a shit to be around. I can't get to sleep. I got demons in my own head trying to work the riddle out. Why did this happen? That's the other thing that's tough for me is I think that any bad thing that happens to me, my initial reaction is what'd you do wrong to lead to this?

[Interviewer]

Heard a quote recently that said every man knows reflection and introspection when he's at his lowest bad times. You can't do anything other than wallow in retrospective assessment. But one of my favorite things I've learned from you is when things are going well. Given that that's presumably what you want to have more of, maybe worth deconstructing that.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Yes. Can I try and bottle some science here to why things are going well. And I did find consistencies. You were appreciating more. You were pointing out beautiful things and not taking them for granted. And so I found a list of things I'm like. And when I get off track, I try to remind myself, you've been slacking on some of those. I've definitely found consistencies. And I think we all have them if we just notate them along the way that they're not by accident. Let's cheers. Let's have a cheers on the way from things that will work for when we have going. Right. Also knowing that it's not forever, that it will. We will have a mountain to climb here shortly. What's my best advice I need to give myself right now is listen to my own damn advice.

[Interviewer]

You've got this great line where you say so many people are obsessed with how to live longer instead of how to live better. How do you come to think about that?

[Guest/Thought Leader]

I'm for it. The longevity. I'm for it. But in. In the pursuit of it, are we measuring quality of life along the way? Some people aren't. And I personally don't want to have the highest number, but then go, I need fun or I didn't enjoy that or that sucked. Profit measures quality with the quantity. So I'm saying real success is when you have profit. Well, really great longevity would be for those quality years, quality time left in this life. I also say that because while I'm not looking forward to it, I'm not really afraid of death or dying. Not looking forward to it, shaking my boots if I'm face to face with that great white. You know what I mean? I'm not looking forward to it. But I see it as a. Obviously it's inevitable and obviously I personally see it as hopefully a comma, you know, not a period. So tomorrow is not today's measurement when the misery is bad enough, right? These people don't have the suffering. Consideration is a privilege, man. I'm trying to put food on the table right now and pay my rent tonight. You want to talk to me about investing in my future. And I'm saying, and that's part of what faith and religion are for. To help those in misery hang on to a hope that will most likely not be served them in this life. To sell them belief and faith that they will be served in the next. And what if there is nothing there, man? What if there's nothing to hope for? What if there's no next? I don't know. But either way, in misery here or without a heaven there, not having any hope or faith in anything is a certain way to remain where you are forever. But if you can find something that you can keep going, something that no matter how small to look forward to.

[Interviewer]

And I cashed out my entire 401k thinking someone stole my identity.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

A fake email cost me my dream home. After I sent my personal information to a scammer, my AI agent wired thousands to an account I'd never seen.

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[Guest/Thought Leader]

Can you have faith in and chase? Well, then your life here is going to be better now, heaven or not. Let's go to the dream. Let's flip that script. I always have gone from non fiction to say, let's make that the dream. Just keep living. Art emulates life. Let's go to dreams, let's go to poems, prayers. These are pursuits of an ideal beauty. These are in between the lines. This is in between the math. This is not academic. This is not intellectual. These are ideals that we pursue the beginner's mind that we have as a child before we know worse. And I don't want to be ignorant. I don't want to be foolishly optimistic. Let's look to those and believe that we can still make those real. I grew up only knowing sort of the courage of the persistence. You're resilient, endure, get up, dust yourself off, go. Problem with that, the Achilles heel with that is if you get up and get the courage to keep on going every time and get up and dust yourself off, you make the same mistakes each time around because you never backed up. To have what I've now learned and still learning is the courage to go, no, I'm gonna let some people pass me in the race right now because I'm gonna look at why I keep stepping in that damn same pothole and twisting my ankle, the same spot. Why I keep failing when I try to get that next spot in this relationship.

[Interviewer]

There is a unique sort of circle of hell that is reserved for when you keep on making the same mistake over and over again. That you've done it, you've had to pay the penance, say that you're sorry, and then arrive straight back at the same place.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Yeah, I think there's a hell in the mirror. Then I think it can become a living hell. I got that poem in there. Daymares.

[Interviewer]

I love that one.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

I do too. You know, nightmares suck, but at least you wake up and they're over. The ones that stick with you when you wake up and go through your day that are right there, those are the ones that's the living hell. I think that's what you're talking about. And you, you repeat offend enough. Word gets out, circles gets out. People doubt you on your approach. You're like, yeah, but don't do this. I mean, all of a sudden you're going places and you gotta look over your shoulder. You gotta see who's there that I didn't pay back? Who do I owe? What bridge did I burn? What person did I betray to get where I am? That's a life that's a living hell.

[Interviewer]

In the modern world, you can move from city to city. At least you can in some regard, leave your reputation behind. However, if you lose your reputation with yourself, if you no longer trust you, Yep, I don't keep my own word. I know that I'm not a trustworthy person. I keep making promises to myself and to other people and I keep on breaking them. I keep doing something that hurts other people or the same person. They don't trust me anymore and oh, I don't trust me anymore.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

The rom com time that was definitely me doing the work I was doing and only being able to do the work I was doing and offer the roles I was getting. The rom coms was eating at me. I felt like I could. Life is good, man. I make good money. Feel like I can roll out of bed and do one of these tomorrow morning. That's cool. I'm the go to guy for this. I was countered by, I had met Camilla, fallen in love, she's now pregnant with her first child. My life was extremely vital and I was alive. Cried harder, laughed louder, felt more joy, all those things. But my work was like, all right. And I was like, well, I wish my work could be as challenging or as vital as my life. And I remember looking in the mirror going, well, be glad right now. Appreciate that it's not the other way around. But can I have my work challenge my lifestyle in this vitality? Yeah. If I do some dramas I want to do, well, those aren't coming. All right. If I can't do what I want to do, let me quit doing what I was doing. Now that was, yeah, it was definitely courageous. I did, I did honestly think I'd written myself a one way ticket out of Hollywood. People close to me, basically almost everybody besides my wife, was like, what is your major malfunction, little brother?

[Interviewer]

You got it made.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Why, why are you throwing a jackknife in this that way? You're tripping yourself, running downhill, man. You, you did it. I had my wife and myself to remind myself of that 4:00am clarity that I had in tears when I was like, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm rolling the dice. I'm sticking with it. Yeah, man, I did think I wrote myself a ticket out of Hollywood. I did look at other vocations become a teacher, a wildlife guide. I seriously look at those things. But over time, and it was about 20 months, it was gone long enough. Had found anonymity. Enough was not in your living room, in a theater, in a rom com. You didn't see me on a beach shirtless. Where is he? Turning down the $14.5 million offer. Maybe people go, oh shit, what's he up to? They don't just. You don't just step out of Hollywood and enter unless you get. You turn that down because you got a plan, you got somewhere you want to go. And I think that made me more attractive as a new novel idea. But that was. Yeah, that risk took it. I think it's fair to say that took a fair amount of courage from me.

[Interviewer]

For a lot of people, their work feels more vital than their life.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Is that a shiny object mirage that they need to rid themselves of?

[Guest/Thought Leader]

If you can and you're willing to. Yeah. Look, that's part of why I started writing. The script flipped on me five years ago. I was like. I was feeling like my work was more vital than my life. I felt like I was going through the motions more in my life, but I was really getting major life experiences through my work. And so that was a challenge to myself, which led to the writing, which was a more direct experience. Kind of put a word down without. It's my script and without my performance on it, without music, without pictures. So that was an inward journey that I'm still on. Yes. Confidence, identity. Testing it out and it can work. Confidence to go, I'm gonna try and pull this off. Maybe get away with it. Maybe it won't work. Pulling things off. And I have an innate ability for something that I believe. I have the innate ability. And I learned to. The reason behind that instinct and how to. How to. Where's the right time, timing. Oh, and it'll work, I think right here. Who's the audience I'm talking to? Oh yeah. I'm gonna make a plan for that cell. If it's all sales for that transaction or whatever. And bam. It hits and it lands like I wanted it to. Dawsh. Damn it. Was that deja vu? It happened. That's how I saw it. That I get confidence from that. It's. I don't think it's what the mystics meant when they were like, be dis. Attached. They give me go Embrace. But for highs and lows and pains and pleasures, understand that those outward things are not the things to be attached to for your own identity. It's got to be inward first. Enjoy those partake, but don't become attached to those for your measure

[Interviewer]

without complacency. Trust that time is on your side. What do you mean that.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Yeah, man, get a header behind it. I can get in a rush look and I know how to hustle. And let's go. The clock's ticking. We're all behind. All hands on deck. We gotta bust ass. No time for pause. There's no sleep, no nothing. Get the caffeine out.

[Interviewer]

Let's go.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Sometimes we got to do that, but that is usually because an unforeseen circumstance has happened that there's a crisis we got to deal with or we've procrastinated. And I put myself in that position where we got a cram. But it's not those two circumstances. We're going to watch ourselves getting ahead of time. And it's on your side. It's a little what I mean about the living longer and living more quality time's on our side and we're forced to think and feel especially today with how fast things move, that more productivity, faster pace, more information, faster pace. That's better. We're ahead of time a lot and. But time's still moving at the same speed and they're not given more than 24 hours a day. Even though me like a lot of people are looking for more. There's not, there's not, not any more. Unless you just want to change your workday and some people do. Me, I need my nine and a half hours sleep phone is I'm getting four hours sleep and get five and a half hours more of a workday to be more productive. I would, but not to making that trade off. It's on our side. And when we're feeling like we're dancing with time, I know I'm usually getting more done at the same pace. It's the John Wooden, a great basketball coach for uc. Like be quick but don't be in a hurry. That was his note to the his basketball players. Like be quick but don't be in a hurry. You will miss things. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the Lego set and, and you sit there and you get in a rush. You don't read the directions. You get to the end and you've got 12 pieces left and you're like shit. Because you got in a hurry, you got ahead of time. Instead of just that feeling of I've checked out what I need to do and it's all adding up. And this thing's built right in the foundation, right. And boom, there's the last piece. It fits. Voila. Was with time. Time's on our side. It's not an enemy. The end. Death is not the enemy. I do believe that part of, you know, not in a rush to get there and we can stave it. We want to stave it off sometimes. And that it can be a screaming fight and partially denial can help us get there. I understand that. But still, it's on our side. It's going to happen. And since it's going to happen and there's that's non negotiable. Might as well go. Well, I'm not gonna rush to try and make more of it than there is. I want to try and spend the time I got as well as I can produce, succeed, achieve whatever those things are, but also at a pace that I'm me that I like to dance to. I like the give and the take. I like the reverb. I like the. The cause and effect of how things are happening at this pace. How are we orienting ourselves now since time is speeding up so much faster? With A.I. i'll ask you this with A.I. and I mean, this is an objective question. They are with all these podcasts, with all these wealth of information that people can get at all times and no one's listening to music anymore. They listen to everybody talk about this and reading up this and they're finding out the answers. And in 10 seconds that would have taken them 10 days to get before. Do people sound smarter to you?

[Interviewer]

No.

[Guest/Thought Leader]

Me neither. It'll sound dumber. I do think so. We're talking about significant. If everything's significant. Nothing significant at all. I do think that I talk to people that feel like they're hyperly punching their information. Absolutely. Great. Just flushing out. But I'm going to. Dude, what was the theme there? Did you have a bass guitar in your band? You need a bass guitar or at least somebody on percussion. Hold it down. Because I didn't hear the theme. I didn't hear the thread. It was digits. Where was the soul in that story? Which goes back to the quality with the quantity. The quantity of information. But can we have the soul in it to where. Ah, I hear the rhyme. Ah, there's rhyme to that. Those digits. There's rhyme to those facts. Oh, I see how they add up. Oh, but what if you put them in this order?

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[Guest/Thought Leader]

They add up to another thing. Or actually they may add up to the same damn thing. Interesting. Now I've got a rhyme now there's a song that happens when times on your side and you're looking at it without complacency like start now that doesn't mean time's on my side yeah, dude, inshallah. When it happens, it'll happen no, like wake up, clock's ticking it's on your side now Just move with it, dance with it Put some soul with the facts.

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