In this episode of Say Yes to the Mess Jami welcomes former cast member of The Real Housewives of Orange County, Katie Ginella. Jami and Katie dive right into an unfiltered discussion about RHOC, and don’t brush over sensitive topics such as racism, homophobia, and bullying. Jami shares her blunt opinions about RHOC cast members and Katie reads a text message from one of her castmates that’s never been shared publicly. If you’re like me and think Katie’s time on the show was cut far too short, you’re going to love this episode. Katie gets personal and shares things she wasn’t able to share on the show because she was forced to miss out on filming for the last half of season 19.

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