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Superman and Wonder Woman are two of the most beloved icons in American pop culture. Created in times of economic adversity and world war, these characters quickly emerged as beacons of American morality and equality, representing the ideals of truth, justice, and the American way.

The artists in Men of Steel, Women of Wonder, on view at Crystal Bridges, use Superman and Wonder Woman to explore national identity, American values, social politics, representation, and the concept of humanity.

In this episode, host Stace Treat has an exciting conversation with Men of Steel, Women of Wonder curator Alejo Benedetti. Then, Alejo sits down with Laylah Ali, an artist featured in the exhibition, to discuss her process and artworks featured in the show.

Men of Steel, Women of Wonder is on view at Crystal Bridges through April 22.

View the transcript here!