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Griffin McElroy
The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed.
Travis McElroy
Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if.
Griffin McElroy
There'S a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby? 1, 2, 3.
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It's the start of something beautiful A small acquaintance has blossomed it's ripened into a precious friends I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park Hangs by the beach My life, it feels live it's better it's better with you My life Ah, it's better it's better with you this is true it's better it's better with you My life, it's better with.
Justin McElroy
You hello and welcome to My Brother, My Brother Me, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
Vroom, vroom. Trav Nation. It's me, your middlest brother, Big dog. Woof, woof. McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
That could be thunder. Or the sound of a car engine. That is far away. I'm Griffin.
Travis McElroy
I forgot to say Travis.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, that's Travis. I'm realizing, well, and that's Griffin.
Travis McElroy
Griffin's in my. Griffin's got shotgun and we're gunning it.
Griffin McElroy
And just when I'm in the trunk.
Justin McElroy
I'm in the trunk. I'm in the boot, if you will. I'm. You know, I'm realizing I had this moment, this chilling moment when we started recording and we were doing our introductions. And then I let my mind drift as the human mind off does to the off outroductions. And I realized, I don't know.
Griffin McElroy
We don't know how that's gonna happen.
Justin McElroy
We did it again.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. So let's not.
Travis McElroy
I mean, I included a fungalore wish.
Justin McElroy
No, can't do that. That was last year.
Griffin McElroy
Can we do it like. Can we say it's like instead of a wish to fungalore. It is a question to make the car go.
Justin McElroy
It's absolutely a question we should have had on the production meeting that we did yesterday.
Travis McElroy
No, but you know, Justin, art is a living thing.
Griffin McElroy
Art's alive and we should live within it. Like Osmosis Jones.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, exactly. Osmosis Jones. That's a man without fear, that is.
Griffin McElroy
He's living faster than fear.
Justin McElroy
For sure. Now, Travis, it's been a little bit. You were traveling. How are you doing? How are you feeling?
Travis McElroy
I'm traveling faster than Fear, Justin. Thank you for asking. I'm feeling great. I'm over my strep throat. I did have a day. Speaking of Osmosis Jones, where one day, and this was like before I started my antibiotics, where suddenly. And I didn't even have a fever, but it was like my fever broke and I felt like 25% better instantly. And my first thought, I shit you not, was there's an Osmosis Jones in there fighting the.
Griffin McElroy
Just blasted.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, Somebody just got absolutely melted by an Osmosis Jones. And I feel better.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, it could have been him. It could have been David Hyde. Pierce zapped. Thrax, if you'll remember, was the bad guy in Osmosis.
Travis McElroy
Tylenol, I think. Who killed Anthrax?
Justin McElroy
Who is like a Tylenol that killed Anthrax now?
Griffin McElroy
But hold on. Thrax is just the name. He's not Anthrax. Because Bill Murray got it from eating a dirty. A monkey's dirty egg off the ground. There's a lot in that movie that reaches beyond the limits of my capacity to imagine. The scene where Bill Murray picks up a dirty egg off the ground and just gooshes it into his nasty mouth. Has really clearly stuck with his mouth.
Travis McElroy
There's a scene where there's a party in a bar inside a pimple, if I remember correctly.
Griffin McElroy
That's not important.
Travis McElroy
The stuff that happens. What I'm saying is that I could try to explain this movie to someone who hasn't seen it and it's gonna sound like a fever dream or a made up thing.
Griffin McElroy
And he gets Anthrax from eating a monkey's dirty egg. I don't think that's how anthrax. I don't think that's where anthrax came from.
Justin McElroy
No, it was from the government. Mail went through the government light.
Travis McElroy
Publishers Clearinghouse.
Justin McElroy
Publishers Clearinghouse.
Griffin McElroy
Just fucking jazzing right now, guys. I'm loving it. After two whole weeks of basically telling the same joke over and over again.
Travis McElroy
I'm picking a new name for the year.
Griffin McElroy
God, what if.
Justin McElroy
Okay, this is okay. This is actually really good. I was trying to figure out why I was feeling so creatively backed up. And I mean, literally, like, I could feel it in me. You know what I mean? Like the jokes.
Griffin McElroy
The bio recorded.
Justin McElroy
My brother, my brother made a couple of times. Why didn't that slake my thirst? And it's like, well, you didn't do any jokes. No, you didn't do any jokes. And you barely were creative. Like, you know what I mean?
Travis McElroy
No. At that point we were pagliacchi ing around of like, people are laughing because of the sad clowns in front of them, but we weren't actually making jokes.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. I love this new podcast where a monk whips his back with the cat of Ninetales until God whispers the future into his ear. They did two of them this year.
Griffin McElroy
We can't.
Travis McElroy
We did it.
Griffin McElroy
And one day we'll forget. That's what I look forward to is forgetting about this.
Travis McElroy
The day in, like, 2032 when we're going back over the past years and then we get to 25 and we're like, a shiver.
Griffin McElroy
No, we'll remember the name. I'm saying a shiver will go up my spine.
Justin McElroy
What I need to know is, and what I think we should have clarified last week, and I will very briefly mention this and move on. Do we have an asterisk situation or is this a dual theme?
Griffin McElroy
Absolutely not a dual theme. Tummy Buddy Time stuff. I think we can drop in there with.
Justin McElroy
You're not even saying it right.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Tummy Buddy Life, I think, is going to end up being, like, one of those things where there was an interim, but they still get listed hypothetically. Amongst the things, you know.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
Where it's like if a president, like, has to undergo surgery and be put under and it's like, for that hour, the vice president was president. That's like Tommy Buddy Life. But when we're listing it in, like, the proper.
Griffin McElroy
I would just assume, not mention.
Justin McElroy
It's a brief interregnum. No, no, no, no. Nothing more need be said.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
This is also an advice show. Well, we do need to set more things because we do need to say, well, we should have said more things.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
I recently started working at a magnum PI Agency, and one of the things we do.
Griffin McElroy
That's not what it. There's no way it says that. Right.
Justin McElroy
I recently started working at a PI Agency and pie. I recently started working at a raspberry PI factory.
Travis McElroy
And these dang things just keep hitting me in the face.
Justin McElroy
I recently started working at a PI agency, and one of the things we do pretty often is run background checks for clients. However, the more I run them, the more curious I get about what my background check would show. The problem is we do have to justify every background check. The confirmed story is someone ran a check on a very famous celebrity, me. And that understandably, raised some red flags with the site we use. We now have to justify every background check to the site and our bosses. Understandably. So.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
My question is, what Reason can I give to write a background check on myself? That's from Curiosity Kills the Cat in Pittsburgh. Now, I want to help you, but first I want to talk about this spy company. Listen, hey, pal, listen. I pay you for the spy stuff, all right? I can use that nasty spy stuff on anybody I want to. And I don't need you judging me about who I'm spying on and being a creepy sneak, okay? I pay you.
Travis McElroy
No, Justin, you're missing the point. As soon as you, the customer, say, give me a full background check, I'm like Tom Hardy. Now, there's a reason to do it, because that's money. But the employee can't just do it. Out of curiosity, if there's a reason. So you can. Justin. You can. You, Justin McRoy, as long as you pay them, I don't know, $5 or whatever, you can run your nasty, dirty background check on anybody you want to, no questions asked.
Griffin McElroy
Which does raise the question, if I can just go to a website to get background checks done on anybody I want, anytime I want. Why do I need a private investigator? Because it seems like, oh, you have.
Travis McElroy
To pay an annual fee to log into the thing, and they have the.
Justin McElroy
Bookmarks saved already, and the passwords are already in there. It's just like.
Griffin McElroy
It's a long password.
Travis McElroy
I've done that. I ran background checks on you guys.
Justin McElroy
And also, if someone figures out what you're doing and they try to bring the heat to you, you need a real. A dick. A long gone daddy, fists of steel who can come be in your corner and help punch you out of a jam, you know?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, for sure. This guy sounds cool. Tell me more about him.
Travis McElroy
Juice? Yeah. I was gonna go down an AV of, like, joking about background checks on you guys, but now I'm interested.
Griffin McElroy
You're more about this long gone daddy with steel.
Travis McElroy
This long gone daddy with fist of steel who's in my corner because I wanted to find out about Tom Holland or Tom Hardy or both of them. Are they gonna beat up Tom Hardy for me?
Justin McElroy
No, that's all the detective stuff that I know.
Travis McElroy
Oh, okay, cool.
Griffin McElroy
There's a long gone daddy with fist of steel.
Travis McElroy
That's a very selective miles of shoe leather.
Justin McElroy
It was from a Bruce McCullough song that I was remembering, and then I don't remember any more of it. So.
Travis McElroy
Okay, you need somebody to hire your PI Company to investigate.
Justin McElroy
You watch us to watch me investigate the PI Companies. And that is what I'm offering to you.
Travis McElroy
Sharks, huh? So a public investigation company of the private investigators. There's a lot of private investigators. Where's the public investigator who just stands on a street corner like, you guys know? You know, Steve, there should be a.
Griffin McElroy
Free service that solves crimes.
Justin McElroy
Yes, Right.
Griffin McElroy
Why haven't we invented that yet?
Justin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
Are you worried if you guys got a background investigation done on yourself? I figure there's three possibilities, right? One, there's stuff on there you weren't expecting. Stuff on there. Like, not stuff on there that should have been on there, or like, yeah, that's me. Which one of those three options is most satisfying to you?
Griffin McElroy
I mean, I would want it to be accurate. I would hope. I wouldn't want it to have a bunch of. I don't want it.
Travis McElroy
It doesn't feel fun. Like, if I wanted a background check and I got a background check, and I was like, yeah, that's it.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, what do you want to be on there? I guess, Trav, I don't know.
Travis McElroy
Find out a secret about myself. I didn't know.
Justin McElroy
You know what I always hope for? They don't. You don't see this as much because the Internet, but when I was a kid, they used to publish these big lists of people that the government owed money to. Oh, yeah, get this money. We got the money for you. Come get it. And I would love to discover something like that. That would be great. If they're like, secretly, the government has $400 for you. No problem.
Travis McElroy
Well, I've talked about before, I think on the show, Griffin and I have very similar Social Security numbers. And that's because apparently our parents didn't get me one when I was born. And then Griffin was born, and they were like, we'll just get them both done at the same time.
Griffin McElroy
And that's efficient. When you got three rowdy boys, sometimes you gotta look for little corners you can cut.
Justin McElroy
And, hey, folks, before you start judging our parents, they didn't have, like, cell phones. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Travis McElroy
Because for a long time, I was like, that seems shady. Because they didn't let me leave the hospital with my kids until I had one. And that apparently didn't start until, like, 1997. But for a long time, I was like, there's a story off the grid.
Justin McElroy
If I started talking. If we started talking too much as kids, they didn't have an iPad they could give us. They had to do it the old fashioned way. Just turn the lights off, put his face down, face down on the carpet, then run out of the room real fast.
Griffin McElroy
Mr. Beast wasn't even alive yet.
Travis McElroy
No.
Griffin McElroy
Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast was dead. He was unborn.
Justin McElroy
Our Mr. Beast was Mr. Bean. That's how Mr. Beast was just Mr. Bean.
Travis McElroy
Because Mr. Bean. Mr. Wizard. Mr. Beast.
Griffin McElroy
Our Mr. Beast was an old man who would show up at your house and give you a check from the Publisher's Clearing House.
Travis McElroy
And we laughed.
Griffin McElroy
That was our Mr. Beast. He didn't do anything fun. He didn't make blood sports for everyone to compete in.
Justin McElroy
What reason could there be?
Griffin McElroy
I got enemied. And there's a version of me out there walking around. Maybe you've seen them. They are getting a lot of fights and they run a lot of stop signs and they're getting me in a lot of trouble. So I need to check my background because I have forgotten which one of us is the real one.
Travis McElroy
Ooh.
Griffin McElroy
I watched Enemy on a Plane and I think that's what happens in that film.
Travis McElroy
It's just called Enemy.
Justin McElroy
Is it called Enemy on a Plane?
Griffin McElroy
It's not called Enemy on a Plane. That would be cool. It would be a much more condensed version of the film if there were two Jake Gyllenhaal's on the same plane. To be fair.
Travis McElroy
Enemy plane.
Griffin McElroy
We don't have to look for each other.
Travis McElroy
That's how I feel every time I get on a plane and somebody immediately hits me weird. And I'm like, that's my enemy on this plane. Whatever that. I see them out of the corner of my eye. What a. They're making faces when a baby's crying.
Griffin McElroy
Truly unhinged Way to live your life.
Travis McElroy
You guys don't do that. You don't create a little kayfabe wherever you go.
Griffin McElroy
I don't need rivals. Like, I already have so many haters crawling out of the woodwork to come and grab my stash.
Travis McElroy
Sometimes it's nice to just have a little private ire towards where you're saying, I don't like that person. They'll never know it.
Justin McElroy
I have the. I have something like that. And it's the opposite. And it's called getting through the day. And it's where I have to tell myself, you love this person. You're all just trying to get through.
Griffin McElroy
Everyone's doing it.
Travis McElroy
Hey, I'm not gonna act on it. It's not like. And I've decided to say so. It's just like when they do something makes me feel superior to them. Travis, you gotta not hate judgment.
Justin McElroy
Your thoughts have energy, right?
Travis McElroy
Oh, okay.
Justin McElroy
You're telling your heart that with your brain.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I'm Powering the plane with my energy.
Griffin McElroy
Some people are really susceptible to that stuff.
Justin McElroy
Some people are, Trav.
Griffin McElroy
I would be a big energy guy.
Justin McElroy
Have you noticed that, Trav, he's got more of that. He's more of an energy guy.
Travis McElroy
I mean, look at him. He's doing jazz hands.
Justin McElroy
Ooh.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, even you saying that gave out a pulse. Gave out a pulse. A different vibration. And I'm feeling it now. And I gotta say, it put a bad taste in my mouth.
Travis McElroy
So what you're saying, Griffin, is that I'm sending negativity to you, and you're feeling it.
Griffin McElroy
You're doing it right now to me right now, and I'm picking it up with my dish.
Travis McElroy
Tell your boss you're looking for a new job and you're worried about what's gonna show up on your background check. And then if it's bad, tell your boss. On second thought, I guess I'll stay here.
Justin McElroy
I'm worried about some stuff that may or may not be about to come to the service. And this is for you. Because if I'm in your employ when this stuff comes out, it's not good for anybody. And then. And then at the end of the day, you're like, remember earlier? I just want to say, psych, psych, psych, psych, psych, psych, psych.
Griffin McElroy
Gotcha. Got you, got you, got you.
Justin McElroy
Here's another question.
Griffin McElroy
Please.
Justin McElroy
How do I show a hairdresser what kind of hair I want without showing them a photo of Sonic's dad from the Sonic movies played by James Marston. That's from Sonic 3 is 4 out of 5 stars.
Griffin McElroy
That's good. That's a great rating for that. That film's so stupid and so much fucking fun. I can't recommend Sonic 3 enough.
Justin McElroy
Am I gonna see Sonic 3 by myself?
Griffin McElroy
Did you see Sonic 2?
Justin McElroy
Yes.
Griffin McElroy
Okay. Yeah, you gotta see Sonic 3. Love this little guy. I can't get enough of him.
Travis McElroy
Why not show him a picture of James Marsters?
Griffin McElroy
James Marsters is a different guy.
Travis McElroy
Marsden.
Justin McElroy
It's one of the hardest things to remember in life is which one each one is. And this is something that we all struggle with all the time.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I think if it's T. If it's Marsters, they're coming from the top. If it's Marsden, it's a bear in a den. That's how I remember.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, that's the good mnemonic device. You could show them. I'm just spitballing here. A picture of James Marsters from James Marsden.
Travis McElroy
I Did it too.
Griffin McElroy
You show him a picture of James Marsden from any other project. If I could recommend what is the jury show? Jury duty. That's a good one. He's great in that.
Travis McElroy
What about just a series of James Marsden from different thing? Like, and I could look like this guy from X Men or this guy from Sonic or this guy from Superman Returns.
Justin McElroy
They're like, hey, these are all James Mars. That's weird.
Travis McElroy
You know, now that you mention it, that is weird. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
What incredible, incredible hair James Marsden has. My looking at, it's consistent. It's so rock steady, but it looks stylish.
Justin McElroy
It's like Rocksteady in a shaggy way. It's amazing. Like, it looks like it always looks great. I mean, this is what I'm like aspiring to and can never juice.
Griffin McElroy
I think you're juice, honestly, I think you are. You are close. Getting closer all the time. I'm looking at your hair. I'm looking at James Martin hair. It's not that different.
Justin McElroy
The problem is James Martin hair in the Sonic movies is not consistent. He's growing with Sonic, isn't he? As Sonic.
Travis McElroy
Like an emotional hair.
Justin McElroy
If you compare Sonic 1, Sonic's dad to Sonic 3, Sonic's dad, I feel like as the radical attitude of Sonic has.
Travis McElroy
Oh, it's teaching him.
Justin McElroy
Is teaching him, helping him to grow. I think he's got a little bit more of a waterfall in the back. Uh huh.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Okay.
Griffin McElroy
It's fun. God, he looks so cool, Sonic.
Travis McElroy
Okay. James Marston has hair. Like in a video game where you're building a character and like Stardew, for example, and you put a haircut on him and it's like, that's their hair.
Griffin McElroy
It's the platonic hair.
Travis McElroy
Every time you see them.
Griffin McElroy
This is standard hair.
Justin McElroy
You know what I love about James Marston?
Griffin McElroy
Tell me now. There's a lot I'm getting worked up.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. As here's what I love about James Martin is that it all seems attainable. A lot of guys. Yeah, a lot of guys. You look at these Brad Pitts, you know, you're like, never different.
Griffin McElroy
Different Echelon.
Justin McElroy
You look at James Marsden and folks, if you don't do this, you're going to laugh. But you look at James Mars and there's something about him where you're like, maybe, maybe if I. I guess I could. Hmm. I guess he's approachable, right?
Travis McElroy
When in reality you don't mean approachable like approachable and like talkie to you. You mean approachable. I could approach that level.
Justin McElroy
I Could. You know, it's like, I think most straight white men want to be James Marston, but they can't realize when they've gotten there, and they just keep pushing past.
Travis McElroy
Well, they want to be George Clooney, but they would be happy to be James Martin. That's not true.
Griffin McElroy
That's not true. I don't want to be him in the same way, I don't want to be some sort of space angel. Do you know what I mean? Like, I can't be a horse. I can't just become a unicorn.
Travis McElroy
I see.
Griffin McElroy
But James Marston, if I put a.
Justin McElroy
A lot of work.
Griffin McElroy
A lot of work into my opinion, like, yeah.
Justin McElroy
I mean, if I put.
Travis McElroy
I don't know, man. He's got a jawline.
Justin McElroy
It's not. But the fact that you're right is immaterial.
Travis McElroy
Okay, I see what you're saying.
Justin McElroy
You know what I'm saying?
Travis McElroy
It's a mental.
Justin McElroy
It's a mental thing. Right?
Travis McElroy
But I also think that makes it easy to root for James Marsden, because it's like, he's like one of us. You know? Like when someone, like, you're watching whatever. The one where. Oh, what's his face? Marky Mark. Mark Wahlberg gets to play for the Eagles, and it's like, he's one of us. He's made it. When I see James Marsden out there doing it, I'm like, yeah, man. There's a handsomer version of myself, Travis.
Justin McElroy
Yes. It's so wild that this super handsome dude that got to be Cyclops in X Men. I'm still like, come on, James. You can get there. You can get him.
Travis McElroy
But you're rooting for James. What? But you're rooting for James Marsden.
Justin McElroy
He's in, like, the only movies people go see anymore. He was in X Men.
Travis McElroy
He's super Superman.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, Superman.
Justin McElroy
His hair is great.
Travis McElroy
Superman.
Justin McElroy
He's fine. He's doing just fine.
Griffin McElroy
If I mute hard enough for long enough, do you think I could get a James Marston chin?
Justin McElroy
I'm going to say yes, even though the answer is no. But I feel yes.
Griffin McElroy
I don't think I know how to do it.
Travis McElroy
So he's a Sigma Chad is what you're saying.
Justin McElroy
I can't get into labels.
Travis McElroy
Is James Marsden a Sigma Chad?
Griffin McElroy
I can really stretch my neck muscles out like a fucking frog. Are you guys seeing this shit?
Travis McElroy
When I'm mew. I feel like I'm just hiding a gross anthrax egg in my mouth.
Justin McElroy
Okay, I'm gonna.
Griffin McElroy
I got a wiki do you wanna talk more about how handsome and talented and funny James Martin is? Cause if you do, we'll save that.
Travis McElroy
For the Patreon exclusive.
Justin McElroy
Here's the thing. I feel like, you know, in my brain I have a number of likelihood of most people whether or not they could ever like be on an episode of Clubhouse or something.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And I. James Marsden's is like weirdly high. Like in a way that I don't think reflects reality, but like not at all. I'm like at a 30%, like a 20% chance.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
That we could get James Mars.
Travis McElroy
Weird. That. That feels right.
Griffin McElroy
He has really cast a spell on you, Justin.
Justin McElroy
20% is low. I will remind you.
Travis McElroy
Is it. If someone told you you had a 20% chance of winning the lottery, you'd be buying a ticket every day.
Griffin McElroy
And those two are.
Justin McElroy
Well, this is all equivalent. I mean. Griffin, tell me about your wiki. Tell me about your wiki.
Griffin McElroy
Hadn't done one in a while. This one was sending by a lot of people. A lot of people sent this one and I do appreciate it. And it's how to have an imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend.
Travis McElroy
Huh.
Griffin McElroy
Inventing an imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend is easy. All it takes is imagination. Yeah, no shit.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, dude. Well, of course it depends on, I would say what your end goal is because you could have a. You're right.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. You could have a non imaginative imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend.
Travis McElroy
Well, I'm saying if I'm trying to have an imaginary partner in order to convince people I have an imaginary partner, then maybe a powerful imagination is actually detrimental.
Griffin McElroy
That's true.
Justin McElroy
Wow, that's true.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. So maybe this whole article we're about to read is gonna be wrong and it's just gonna be like, don't say anything about them. Keep it open and empty so that you can not get caught at any point. Let's start out with create your partner beforehand. Have a firm grasp of who they are, where they're from, what they do, et cetera, before sharing them with anyone. So that's the opposite of what I just said.
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Griffin McElroy
So maybe I was. I think maybe let's go with the wiki on this one. Cause they probably put more work into thinking about stuff.
Travis McElroy
Can you imagine if you decided, I'm gonna convince my co workers that I'm dating someone and you show up and you're like, yeah, I started dating this new person. And then you spend an hour and a half listing off everything about them and then they're like, how long have you guys been dating? And you're like two weeks.
Griffin McElroy
Two weeks. It's been a passionate. Mostly text based. Mostly text based relationships.
Travis McElroy
You listed off their height in centimeters. Yeah, man.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Those are the kinds of things that are important when you're getting to know someone.
Griffin McElroy
She's from London, England, so to make her feel comfortable, I have gone metric. Don't give yourself away by taking the time to think up lies on the spot. That's true. I've been watching a lot of traitors. I think I'd beat ass at that show because I can always tell if someone pauses for even a microsecond. I catch that shit like bull. I catch that shit like bull.
Justin McElroy
Easy, Mike.
Griffin McElroy
Wait.
Travis McElroy
Like bull from night Bull.
Griffin McElroy
Bull from bull.
Justin McElroy
Bull from the movie Bull. I A lot we show as well. I. My secret talent in this area would be if I was trying to like trick people with this kind of thing is that I genuinely don't remember a lot of stuff that people or don't know.
Griffin McElroy
You have plausible deniability.
Justin McElroy
Plausible deniability. Like where people were like this guy and this, this, and yada, yada, yada. I legitimately do not. I do not recall if that was the case or not. And I feel like that would be enough of a smokescreen. Like, I believe I do have a Canadian partner of some sort.
Travis McElroy
What province? I don't know, man.
Griffin McElroy
I don't know what they even called make it memorable. I guess is what Justin is saying. Like, pick a name like Jameson Hard Rock. And like you won't forget. You won't forget that.
Justin McElroy
Or start forgetting important stuff months out.
Griffin McElroy
Like, okay, cool.
Justin McElroy
Where it's like, oh, I drive a. I want to say red. Like, you know, like, oh, about yourself too. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Where you.
Justin McElroy
Where if people later, months later are like, tell me about your boyfriend and you go up on details.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
It's like that's. That's par for the course.
Travis McElroy
Them.
Griffin McElroy
You That's.
Justin McElroy
You often forget.
Griffin McElroy
That's helpful for a lot of stuff too, I imagine. Yeah. Not just.
Justin McElroy
It's called. It's called lowering expectations.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And it's probably my superpower.
Griffin McElroy
Keep your partner believable. Expect people to ask questions about them. Keep your answers grounded in what you know for sure. Expect people to ask questions about them as interesting because as is what you know for sure. Right.
Justin McElroy
Them not being real at all.
Griffin McElroy
I don't know that when someone says, I'm dating someone new, I might ask a couple questions. I don't think I'm gonna get that deep into. What province are they from?
Travis McElroy
I also, if you are someone who feels the need to invent a partner to convince people you have a partner. The idea that you're gonna seamlessly slip it into conversation in a way that makes people ask a lot of questions is also expecting a lot from you.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. This is interesting, though. Cause as an addendum to this point, it says either give your imaginary partner an upbringing similar to your own so you can speak about it with authority.
Travis McElroy
Or grow up in my house, you are me.
Griffin McElroy
Or model them on someone you know well enough to borrow a plausible background, like a best friend, roommate, or cousin. That's troubling.
Travis McElroy
Maybe not someone's troubling.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Their name. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
How did I meet them? Our dads are brothers.
Griffin McElroy
Their name is Susan McElroy.
Travis McElroy
No, it's cool, man. We did 23 and me. And it's four people back. So it's four.
Griffin McElroy
So it's five.
Travis McElroy
I think that's cool.
Griffin McElroy
Use the truth whenever possible. Bolster stories about your partner with real details. Huh? If you tell people about a date or day trip you went on with your partner, use places you've actually been to.
Justin McElroy
Real details from stuff you've done.
Griffin McElroy
That's awesome.
Justin McElroy
It's really good. This is kind of lying 101. I love all this. I think this is all great stuff. This person is overcomplicating it, though. I have found with the rapid growth in Hallmark original Christmas productions, that you really don't need to go through all this trouble.
Travis McElroy
Oh.
Justin McElroy
If you look around, there is probably someone pretending to be a boyfriend or girlfriend near you at any given moment. You can hop into one of these productions.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Like that. You don't. That's scripted. You know what I mean? Or if you fake it long enough, imagine eventually people are going to start filming scenes with you.
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
For inclusion in a Hallmark.
Travis McElroy
And if there's one thing. If there's one thing I've learned from movies and TV shows, it's that especially if you want to move up in the corporate world, they feel more comfortable giving those kinds of jobs to married people. It's all they seem to talk about in movies. So you should be able to just find another person in that similar position. Right. And just say, like, hey, you also want to be like, CEO of a company. I do, too.
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
But we need to be married before they'll let us do that.
Griffin McElroy
You're so far outside the purview of this question. You're so lost in the sense of the.
Travis McElroy
Oh, that's right in there.
Griffin McElroy
Getting married, Having a sham marriage is actually not involved with how to have an imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend.
Travis McElroy
That's an easy one. Just roll up wearing a wedding ring one day and say, I'm married.
Griffin McElroy
You are still so far outside of your jurisdiction in this question and what it's trying to do.
Travis McElroy
Oh, I didn't mean to cross state lines.
Griffin McElroy
I'm just saying it's asking how to imagine a boyfriend or girlfriend, and you're saying how to have a sham marriage.
Travis McElroy
Well, I once again point out, Griffin, that the title isn't how to convince other people that you have a boyfriend or girlfriend. Right, because this is not a good way to do this.
Griffin McElroy
This could be fun. Yeah, no, this could just be a fun little exercise for you. Give a good reason for their absence when you create your imaginary place. Space.
Travis McElroy
They're in space. They're astronauts.
Justin McElroy
Not that they need space.
Travis McElroy
No, they have too much of it, frankly. They're up there in it, and they're not gonna be back here for 45 years. Actually, they are traveling to Mars.
Griffin McElroy
My boyfriend. You mean Dr. Gideon Strongfoot? He's in outer space right now on the iss.
Travis McElroy
He's gonna be hurt. The space elevator doors just closed. He's on his way up, man.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, wait, he's getting a call from him now. I can't hear you over the loud space toilet. Dr. Gideon Hardfoot.
Justin McElroy
This is gonna be hard for you to understand, but he is currently hurtling away from me, but he's going to perform what's called a temporal pincer maneuver. He's gonna slingshot around the sun through a black hole, and he's actually gonna be here in time for dinner with us. Cool. But if he's not here now, he will be here later. But in this reality. Listen, it will just change. Outer space, really far away.
Travis McElroy
As long as you're imagining this partner, why not go the full. Go the whole nine yards and tell him the absence. The reason my partner's not here. They're a vampire. Can't come out during the day. That's a real problem for them. At night, he's hunting and protecting me from the werewolf faction that's always trying to. And then they're like, what? Vampires aren't real? And you're like, neither's my boyfriend. So now who looks stupid?
Justin McElroy
But it's like, if you're gonna suggest stuff that they clearly said in the question you can't do, then you are really not living within sort of the strictures that have been granted to you. Like, they did say to not make it imaginative. And you're like giving them leathery bat wings so they can rule over.
Griffin McElroy
So they can fight blood and live forever. It's a fantastical world, and I think it's great. But again, it's slightly outside the purview. Can you point to a little earbud you have in your ear and say, it's a her? It's a her. I can't. You won't be able to see them because I've got a her in my ear from the movie Her.
Justin McElroy
So we're inventing to impress people. You're inventing an AI Girlfriend.
Travis McElroy
Vampire. Out of the question. AI Girlfriend, that is.
Justin McElroy
Now we're the big boss upstairs.
Travis McElroy
Go a different way. And they're like, how come we've never met them? And be like, well, it's pretty rocky. Things haven't been going very well between. It's not a good relationship with a bad relationship.
Griffin McElroy
People won't ask questions. That's actually really good. No one's going to ask questions after that.
Travis McElroy
How are you actually doing, Samantha?
Griffin McElroy
We simply do not like each other very much.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, but neither one of us is ready to pull the trigger on it.
Griffin McElroy
So, you know, be consistent. Come up with one story, the tale of my amazing new partner, and stick to that. One story with everyone. You know. They put it in question.
Justin McElroy
Did you write that title of that.
Griffin McElroy
Story or did they go come up with one story, Parentheses quote. The tale of my amazing new partner. Quote.
Travis McElroy
What's that, Susan? You'd like to hear the tale of my amazing. Sit down by the fire.
Justin McElroy
Let me favor you with it. Susan.
Travis McElroy
Derek, play upon the pipe. Accompany me. Yes.
Justin McElroy
A tale. I know.
Griffin McElroy
Well, they suggest keeping a diary of events you've done. Also keeping up to date with weather in the city where they live so that you could talk about. Well, she's trapped in the freak blizzard. It's what it says.
Travis McElroy
Starting to feel like a lot of work.
Griffin McElroy
It is a lot.
Justin McElroy
I gotta tell I wish. If you want to convince people you're everybody. If you want to convince people you're not weird and you're normal, you got to stop doing weird things like you got. You're trying to convince people that you're a normal, cool person.
Griffin McElroy
And that's all we. And that's all we need. That's all we want. For you on this show.
Justin McElroy
You have to live within that truth. And for me, that means not looking at the weather in the city where your imaginary girlfriend lives. That's why you're weird. You have to stop doing things, trying to be weird.
Travis McElroy
Enough that you become cool is not going for it.
Justin McElroy
Exactly. Like, I'm so off. Like, no one goes so off the rails that they find themselves back on other rails where they're like, I'm so, so weird that everyone thinks it's, like, cool and working for me.
Travis McElroy
I convince everyone I'm cool by being so weird.
Griffin McElroy
This next step seems.
Justin McElroy
God, I was impossible.
Griffin McElroy
Tick tock.
Justin McElroy
That would have been such a huge sound. Fuck. TikTok.
Griffin McElroy
Do you think it's still gonna be there by the time this episode come out?
Justin McElroy
By the time this episode is up. This is.
Travis McElroy
I'm thinking there's a last minute Hail Mary.
Griffin McElroy
Hail Mary for sure.
Travis McElroy
Save it.
Griffin McElroy
Come on. So this one's impossible. Enlist someone you trust to help coach them on who your partner is, what they look like, how they interact with people, what they like, and what they don't like to talk about. If I had this person in my life, I wouldn't need to invent an imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend. If I had someone who I could trust so deeply that I could get them in on the con of my imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend. Any sort of intimacy, needs, or human connection that I need. I have that incredible friend.
Justin McElroy
Could you. Could you thread the needle on a romantic comedy where a guy insists the help of his girl best friend in inventing a girl girlfriend?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And he doesn't see the girl that loves him is right there because he's so busy inventing a girlfriend that doesn't exist.
Travis McElroy
That is definitely a movie. That already is.
Griffin McElroy
10 movies.
Travis McElroy
Now, here's what's more interesting, right? Especially if your coworkers are like, have been in relations for a while or married. Don't invent a fake boyfriend or girlfriend. Invent a fake potential boyfriend or girlfriend that you're like, oh, there's some sparks. Right? Like, I don't know, I really like them. I don't know how they feel about me. That's interesting. There's tension there. Once you're, like, in the relationship, after a while it's like, okay, cool, man. Please stop talking about this.
Justin McElroy
That's also all I want to hear about too. You're like, oh, I'm 44. If you like. You think there's something sparkle with you and the flinty coffee shop guy.
Griffin McElroy
Great, man.
Justin McElroy
Hear about that.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Especially if I start to suspect you're making it up, then I'm going to get even more.
Justin McElroy
Then I want every single detail.
Griffin McElroy
This next step is where I think it maybe goes too far. And it is to give your partner an online Presence.
Travis McElroy
Okay, here is.
Justin McElroy
You've lost me. You're catfishing yourself. You're Matt Fishing. If your name is Matt.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah. You're just fishing. I think at this point you're actually.
Travis McElroy
Putting catfish into the water is what you're having.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. What is that called? You're opening up the plane, dropping thousands of pounds.
Travis McElroy
You've set up your own like, trout cannon or whatever they're called, seeding the pond.
Justin McElroy
I saw that happen once when I was a reporter for the Iron Tribune. I was there when they drew this, brought this huge stupid truck and they sent a reporter man, this huge stupid truck to the back of Lake Vesuvius. They just opened it out and there's about a million of the most fucking confused fish you've ever seen in your entire life.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, man.
Justin McElroy
Plastic out of it. What a party, guys. There was probably 200 fucking people just like, yeah, Woo. And I was one of them. Cause that's amazing.
Griffin McElroy
There's a lot of fish.
Travis McElroy
So many fish. I wish, Justin, that you had the scientific capabilities to interview one of those fish. Because the story they're gonna tell of like, I don't know, man. Like, I don't know what's happening. I don't know where I am. I hope God's fascinating.
Justin McElroy
Guys, if you are good at Internet and you start digging through the Ironton Tribune website, you could probably find a picture that I took of with a headline.
Travis McElroy
I don't. Fuck no, man. It was wild.
Griffin McElroy
Look at all these fish.
Justin McElroy
Check this shit out.
Griffin McElroy
Let's go to the money zone.
Unknown
It's better. It's better with you.
Griffin McElroy
I'll tell you who's really got my number, who ran a background check on me and knows everything that they need to know to do what they need to do and do it right. And that is Stitch Fix. Stitch Fix I've been using for a while. Always look forward to getting a box of duds. But using Stitch Fix taught me about my personal style. And so I found some brands elsewhere that I found. And I liked the clothes, liked the way it fit. You know what's happened, guys? Stitch Fix has started to send me stuff from those freaking brands. They've got me so dialed in. Their oracles, their fashion oracles have seen my future and they know exactly what I like.
Travis McElroy
Can I try something real quick?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, sure.
Travis McElroy
Here's the thing about these duds. They're no duds. What do you think?
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I like it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
These duds aren't duds. There's probably a cleaner.
Griffin McElroy
These duds Aren't duds.
Justin McElroy
There's no duds.
Griffin McElroy
No duds here.
Travis McElroy
No duds in these duds.
Justin McElroy
No duds.
Griffin McElroy
So all of that was to say that Stitch Fix is good at what they do, and that is sending you stuff to try on, and then you keep what you want and you send.
Travis McElroy
Back what you want and they all explode.
Justin McElroy
They don't explode. Explodes.
Griffin McElroy
What?
Travis McElroy
Explodes with fashion? Cause they're not duds.
Griffin McElroy
No.
Justin McElroy
Come on. Oh.
Griffin McElroy
Like, these are live fire. These are fireworks.
Travis McElroy
No, I know it's not there.
Griffin McElroy
I don't actually think. Let me see. Hold on.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
The copy doesn't mention anything about jazzing up their whole brand and what their whole identity is. It doesn't say. Let me. No, there's some stuff in here about, like, you get a stylist and then they figure out your style. Yeah. But it doesn't say anything about Jazz up a tagline for us, Travy. Well, no, that's implied.
Travis McElroy
There's an assumed surface.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Cool.
Griffin McElroy
I do like Stitch Fix a lot. It's got personal styling, too.
Travis McElroy
I'm wearing Stitch Fix right now.
Griffin McElroy
Yes. I have Stitch Fix jeans on. And they've always. They know what makes my tuchus work. They do personal styling for everyone. Get started today@stitchfix.com brother. That's stitchfix.com brother.
Justin McElroy
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Travis McElroy
Justin.
Justin McElroy
Yeah?
Travis McElroy
Do they have anything from Martha Stewart?
Justin McElroy
Yeah, they got at least two of Martha's incredible recipes every single week. And if you're, you know, Gotta check that. If you don't trust Martha, who. Who can you?
Travis McElroy
Do they have any recipes from French Stewart, that is.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, they do.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Actually, they Won't he ghost wrote a lot of these. That man's got a palate you would not believe this.
Justin McElroy
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Travis McElroy
Like a whole year.
Justin McElroy
One last time. That's Marley's.
Griffin McElroy
That's.
Travis McElroy
Not.
Griffin McElroy
It's not, man.
Justin McElroy
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Griffin McElroy
They send you these two week turbo meals. Each one worth 140,000 calories.
Justin McElroy
They stuff you up so bad.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man, you couldn't believe it.
Justin McElroy
And if you try to stuff. If you try to slice it up.
Travis McElroy
They know in one they won't send you anymore.
Justin McElroy
They're never gonna do this again. We always fuck up. There's not enough advertisers for us to keep doing this. We gotta stop doing this.
Griffin McElroy
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Griffin McElroy
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Justin McElroy
When should I stop telling people to have a good night? I work overnights at a truck stop, typically from 10pm to 6am and my heart says morning starts at 5am because that's the time they announce a new day. Animal crossing. But it feels weird to wish people a Good night at 4:30am Am I wrong about when morning starts? Is there a time neutral way to wish someone well? That's from time sensitive in Texas.
Travis McElroy
I wanted to talk about this because this. I have a couple and I know these are me weird hang ups about this. And one is like, good morning feels like such a greeting. Good night feels like such a. Like parting.
Justin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
It also feels weird at like 11:30am that I would say good morning.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
But then it's like, well, afternoon is until afternoon. Like, there's so many of like, weird.
Griffin McElroy
It feels weird.
Justin McElroy
Is it weird that if you walk up to someone at a truck stop and they're like, good morning. You'd be like, oh, good morning. If you walk up to someone at a truck stop and they're like, good night.
Griffin McElroy
I love you.
Travis McElroy
This is what I'm saying.
Justin McElroy
Should I leave? No. Good night.
Travis McElroy
Good night.
Justin McElroy
What do you. Do you want me to Should I go?
Griffin McElroy
But there's a different this isn't good night. This is.
Justin McElroy
But if they say now explain this one to me. Good evening. Oh, if they say that, that's fine.
Travis McElroy
Don't let them in.
Griffin McElroy
Good evening is welcoming. Good night is get out of here. Have a good night is a blessing. Have a good night has a power and an intention behind it. And I think that it's really strong and I love a have a good night. I'll take a have a good night.
Travis McElroy
Over a good morning in your life.
Justin McElroy
I think this is what Griffin is, is hitting on here, right? I think it's about what's in front of you.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Justin McElroy
So if you, if you think this, it's a judgment on the person. I think because what you're really saying is have a good rest of your day.
Travis McElroy
Uh huh.
Justin McElroy
If this person seems to be starting their day, that makes sense. But if they seem to be wrapping up like heading to bed, then it's good night. But I think it's contextual to the person.
Travis McElroy
That's interesting. What do you guys think about have a good one?
Griffin McElroy
I love have a good one.
Travis McElroy
Hey, have a good one.
Justin McElroy
Have a good one.
Travis McElroy
As like you finish your transaction at this truck stop. You say have a good one. Could be have a good drive. Have a good sleep.
Justin McElroy
Have a good night, Have a good morning. That's probably my number. Have a good one is like for me it's some combination of have a good one. Hang in there.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, stay safe, stay safe, stay safe, stay safe, stay safe. Keep your head on a swivel.
Justin McElroy
Keep your head on swivel.
Travis McElroy
Keep.
Justin McElroy
Oh, and if I like the person sometimes they're gonna keep it sleazy.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, that's nice.
Griffin McElroy
Or take her. Take, Take her sleazy.
Justin McElroy
Take it sleazy. That's a good one. That's.
Travis McElroy
Have fun out there.
Justin McElroy
Hang in.
Travis McElroy
Hang in there. Hang in there. Chinna.
Justin McElroy
Hang in there. Is a good one. Cause I think everybody needs to hear that. Like I think everybody would welcome Hang in there. It's a good confirmation that your situation requires hanging in there.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Griffin McElroy
I'll tell you where we could really improve this whole thing. Cause obviously the fabric of society is just unraveling before we speak.
Justin McElroy
I'm working.
Griffin McElroy
We gotta fuse it back together and make a little bit more connection in our life. Instead of good morning, let's swap out the good part for something more direct or actionable.
Justin McElroy
Oh my God. Strong. You're like bad morning.
Griffin McElroy
No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying either, Justin. I'm saying give them a direction, like, strong morning, brave morning.
Justin McElroy
Ooh.
Griffin McElroy
And then you're telling them, like, you should be brave this. Be brave today.
Travis McElroy
Have a powerful day.
Justin McElroy
All I ever want is for us to just. Now, a lot of our, like, the things that we say are from sort of our naval or mariner history. And it's especially common in cultures.
Travis McElroy
Do you mean about, like, us as McElroys, our naval history, us as a people.
Justin McElroy
And, like, I feel like I always am very drawn to greetings and stuff about the sea. Right. Or the winds.
Griffin McElroy
May the wind. You know, Fair winds, may the winds.
Justin McElroy
Fair winds, Fair winds Find you on the Sea of Advent, you know?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Even you saying that there gave me douche chills. Juice. If I'm being honest, if anyone hit me with a Fair Winds traveler.
Justin McElroy
Fair winds. No. Okay. But if I walk into a truck stop at 2am and the person behind the counter is like, fair winds traveler, I will. I'm good. That will help me out immensely. I would be fucking stoked, actually. And I will probably linger. Cause that's pretty cool.
Griffin McElroy
As a shopkeep.
Justin McElroy
As a shop.
Griffin McElroy
As a vendor or shopkeep. You can hit me with a Fair Winds traveler.
Justin McElroy
Fair winds.
Travis McElroy
Okay. How many times would they have to say, greetings, weary traveler, before it becomes so natural for that?
Griffin McElroy
I don't like there's a greetings. No, an innkeeper. A hotel manager could hit me with a greetings, weary travel. I will turn around. I will get on hotels tonight. I will find different lodgings.
Travis McElroy
You'll have your bones by the Slurpee machine.
Griffin McElroy
No, I don't need that.
Travis McElroy
Come in. Sup upon our pretzel dolls.
Griffin McElroy
If it's gonna be novel, it has to be a goodbye, because I need to be out of there. I need to know that I'm not about to hang out with.
Justin McElroy
If it's a goodbye, though, you've opened yourself up to, like, the. Sorry. What'd you say?
Travis McElroy
What was that?
Justin McElroy
And then you have to be, like I said, fairwinds traveler. May rise's glory keep thee. Sorry.
Griffin McElroy
Rise's glory keep thee. Yeah, but then you get. You know what you do? Juice. You can leave then because you're done with that. You don't have to hang out in that moment.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, that's true.
Travis McElroy
But you don't swear with a stew in it.
Justin McElroy
Regardless.
Travis McElroy
If you hit him with greetings and then say, fair winds traveler, I feel like you've started to set things.
Justin McElroy
You've opened the door to them. Being a character.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Where you're like, ah, greetings.
Justin McElroy
It is good, Travis. That's good. That is good. If you open, if you give someone a little hint that, like, hey, I'm kind of a cut up.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
You're gonna want to watch out for me. I've got.
Travis McElroy
I don't think you can animate it. You can't be like, ah, greetings. Oh, greetings. And then you can hit them with fair winds traveler right at the end.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And they're like, oh, there's a bookend here. Now the pattern makes sense. Now, when they pay, you'd have to say, that will be 20 coin of the realm. And just see how that.
Griffin McElroy
See, you're making me uncomfortable.
Travis McElroy
I'm taking silver.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, it's fine.
Travis McElroy
Are you willing to barter? I'll take three chickens for this Slim Jim.
Griffin McElroy
I need to be warned before going into this business that there is going to be some creative anachronism taking place inside of it, or else it is entrapment. If there's a sign on the door, if it's decked out like a tab and there's chickens outside the gas station. I know. Like, okay, going in here, it's gonna be a medieval times experience for me and my kids, then that is okay.
Travis McElroy
I roll up and it's just a Sunoco. And then there's just a sign on the bathroom door that says privy.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Travis McElroy
But that's the only thing in the whole place.
Griffin McElroy
You pop into a 711 and there's a sorcerer behind the counter. I'm not ready. I wasn't ready for that.
Travis McElroy
But I love it. It depends on how long I've been traveling at that point. If I'm 10 minutes away from my.
Justin McElroy
House, how weary are you?
Travis McElroy
I'm not ready for that. If it's like hour eight of the drive and there's a sorcerer at the 7 11, I'm good for another four hours of driving.
Griffin McElroy
4Am 4am Feels good to me.
Justin McElroy
I think it's six, man.
Travis McElroy
Good dog. 6am Sunrise. I think it's sunrise because then it's dawn and then it's morning.
Justin McElroy
6Am is the. Is for me, the cutoff. Where if we have like, a flight the next day for tour, and I know that I have to wake up before six.
Travis McElroy
That's the problem.
Griffin McElroy
You're waking up the night before.
Justin McElroy
This is a problem. Like, this is a huge. It's like, I'll recheck that. Like, I certainly am not doing this math right. I can't be Waking up before. Before 6am that's not right.
Travis McElroy
Okay, but all joking aside, guys, it's midnight, right? Night, dawn, morning, afternoon, evening.
Justin McElroy
You're trying to quantify something that can't be.
Griffin McElroy
There is no. There is no time.
Travis McElroy
Night ends when the sun comes up.
Griffin McElroy
When does Evening begin?
Travis McElroy
Afternoon. 5:00. It's 5:00 somewhere.
Justin McElroy
Afternoon. You said afternoon. That's interesting.
Travis McElroy
Afternoon.
Griffin McElroy
So maybe there's not a firm limit. It's all abstract. It's all. This is what we're talking about.
Travis McElroy
Okay, but we know that like the sun goes down, night begins, the sun comes up, day begins.
Justin McElroy
If someone at 4:30 is like, have a good night.
Griffin McElroy
That's crazy.
Travis McElroy
Enjoy the rest of it.
Griffin McElroy
It's 4:30, it is time to go. If I'm up at 4:30, it's the next day. If I'm in the gas station at 3:30, maybe I have. I'm coming home from a very long shift.
Travis McElroy
Here's the problem. It's a societal problem and not a time problem.
Justin McElroy
We need to problems with our society.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. We need to start having indicators that let me the shopkeep know if you're heading home or heading out.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Right. So that way, if you're heading home right after a night shift and you're going to bed, it is night for you. You're going to bed, you've just woken up and it's still early, it's morning for you.
Justin McElroy
Normally this would be very difficult, but you are, as a truck station attendant, one of the is supremely well positioned to see what they're putting in their body. Right.
Griffin McElroy
Cool.
Justin McElroy
If you're my grandpa Dan, when he was up late driving for the railroad and he would stop at a truck stop, he would get a chocolate milk and a big bottle of Excedrin for the caffeine and for his headaches. That's what's his thing. If I see someone getting a big bottle of Excedrin and chocolate milk, they're not going to sleep. You know what I mean?
Griffin McElroy
Sure about that.
Justin McElroy
They got a lot of.
Travis McElroy
His best vehicle for caffeine was Excedrin.
Justin McElroy
I know. Yeah, I know. That's why he's such an unhappy person.
Griffin McElroy
If I chug a ball, we should just have.
Travis McElroy
Okay.
Justin McElroy
What I want a mud squad. I want too Munch Squad Squad. Welcome to Mud Squad. As podcast and podcast profiling, the latest in grace and brand eating. I got two big stories. That's why I had to cut us off previously. I got two big stories. Here's the first One Pop Tarts. Krispy Kreme. They're doing it, huh?
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Pop Tarts beginning today for a limited time at participating shops. And I don't have a Krispy Kreme in Huntington, so I'm probably gonna have to drive to Charleston. Pop Tarts is doing a Krispy Kreme collabo. Krispy Kreme popping off the new year with three insanely tasty new donuts. We got a Pop Tarts frosted strawberry donut, which is an unglazed shell. Always so appetizing when they put it that way. Filled with strawberry filling, dipped in shortbread icing and topped with shortbread pieces, sugar sprinkles, strawberry filling drizzle, and a frosted Pop Tart bites piece.
Griffin McElroy
That's a lot of shit, man.
Travis McElroy
Hey, Justin, can I have a moment to say something about these donuts and pop tarts? 1. It's really blurring the lines because this is in a wild. Like, Pop Tarts and donut are not that far apart. They're friends in the, like, if I'm breaking down by species, phylum, kingdom, whatever. Right?
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And so to say we put strawberry icing and, like, a cream cheese topping. So now it's like a Pop Tart donut. And even looking at this picture, at least for two out of the three styles, they've gone to the effort of just gluing on a little pop Tart.
Griffin McElroy
So, yeah, the little pop Tart fascinator on some of these is what I really want to get to.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I love that.
Travis McElroy
But the third design, you don't even get that.
Justin McElroy
Well, that's true. But it's a donut based on a Pop Tart. So, like, I don't know what you.
Travis McElroy
But you can't tell me. Strawberry icing, the new thing in donuts.
Griffin McElroy
It'S strawberry filling, a shortbread icing with pieces of shortbread on it.
Travis McElroy
This just feels so corporate.
Justin McElroy
They don't make Pop Tarts bites.
Travis McElroy
This doesn't feel inspired the way that donuts normally do. This feels like a cash grab.
Justin McElroy
It's a cash grab. That's true travel. That's actually like, wow, I hadn't even thought about that.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man. I think they're just doing this to sell donuts. I don't think this is about the.
Justin McElroy
Passion for, like, I expect better from Kellanova, a leader in global snacking, international cereal and noodles.
Travis McElroy
Usually they're in it for the heart, you know, they have the heart.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, the heart.
Travis McElroy
A snacking company, they're doing A bound.
Justin McElroy
Sugar one and a chocolatey fudge donut one. Krispy Kreme and Pop Tarts are coming together for the very first time. And you know the result will be crazy good, says Dave Skinna. Krispy Kreme, chief growth Dave, chief growth officer.
Griffin McElroy
You need to pick a voice for Dave Skana. Justin.
Justin McElroy
Well, Dave Skinna's voice, can I tell you, Count Donut does it is different from the Dave Scanna voice.
Travis McElroy
When I do it, it actually, for a second I thought, why is this so weird to me? And then I realized Count Donut is not. Excuse me.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Krispy Kreme and Pop Tart fans will love kicking off the air with this delicious collaboration. Now, what is check in with Kellanova? What do they have to say about this?
Travis McElroy
Pop Tarts aren't just for the toaster.
Justin McElroy
They can infuse culinary creativity to delight consumers. Krispy Kreme has done an incredible job of bringing this opportunity to life, combining their iconic donuts with the beloved flavors of Pop Tarts to create a truly one of a kind experience for fans of both brands. We're proud of this partnership to bring crazy good to donuts and donut lovers in unexpected ways.
Travis McElroy
Can you. Words mean things. And saying a one in a lifetime, once in a lifetime experience, once in a lifetime. The idea that I'm gonna eat this donut and then begin to weep because nothing will ever match that exact experience again. That's like, this is. I'll never know this again.
Griffin McElroy
I also love when a press release refers to me as a consumer. That's awesome.
Justin McElroy
Cause that's.
Griffin McElroy
That makes it feel like this press release should be barking at me from a loudspeaker in the corner of my house. And every morning they deliver a hot and fresh. Oh, hey, who's this?
Justin McElroy
You know who that is?
Griffin McElroy
That's. It's one of the Mannings.
Travis McElroy
The younger Manning, I believe. Elijah.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, When I start to. When I start this. Before I start this press release, I just. I got this up for you guys. You could just kind of tell me what's happening here while I pull the press release.
Griffin McElroy
Looks like Eli Manning is holding a bottle of Hidden Valley Ranch.
Travis McElroy
A human bottle of Ranch is holding a real bottle of Ranch.
Griffin McElroy
Eddie squirted either some of himself or the Ranch dressing bottle onto a big pepperoni pizza.
Travis McElroy
And his face and body language is a shrug.
Griffin McElroy
He is making the littlest stinker face I've ever seen.
Justin McElroy
Now what do you see?
Travis McElroy
He's apologizing like, I don't know, let's.
Justin McElroy
Get more details though. Let's get more details, guys. What else do you see? Give me more clips.
Travis McElroy
What else you got? Hidden Valley Ranch has partnered with Pizza Hut to make a signature ranch pizza. And then I see just down here at the bottom, Justin, score a one of a kind resin encased collectible and.
Griffin McElroy
Then you've cut off.
Travis McElroy
Is it bottle of ranch or pizza or Eli Manning? Get a resin encased Eli Manning. No, a pizza.
Griffin McElroy
A resin encased collectible Pizza Hut pizza that Eli Manning has signed with ranch dressing.
Travis McElroy
Holy shit. That's what we're seeing scrolled across the pizza.
Justin McElroy
So we've got three images here that you can use for this one of these three for the big game you gotta have big prizes. Yeah. And the new Easy Squeeze bottle from Hidden Valley Ranch is so exciting and powerful.
Travis McElroy
Can you scroll back up?
Griffin McElroy
The second image is killing so fucking good, man.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Oh my God. Even the 10 other winners prize. Can I tell you the 10 other winners will receive a year's supply of Hidden Valley Ranch and Pizza Hut pizza.
Justin McElroy
So you wanted me to scroll back.
Travis McElroy
Up just real quick.
Justin McElroy
This is what you want? You want to see the perfect picture?
Travis McElroy
Yeah. So here's. These are images you could use I guess to tell your friends like we could win this or we'll use this. Right, Right. So the first one is just the picture has the logo and then ranch on one side, pizza on the other. And then the third picture bottle of ranch pizza.
Griffin McElroy
The middle one sitting on a yard line on a football field.
Travis McElroy
The middle one is a very close up of just a hand holding the pizza. As if to say in case you're wondering what it was looked like when Eli Manning will scrawl his name in ranch. A little something like this.
Griffin McElroy
Some clumsy, I will say layer mashing happening in the photo edit.
Justin McElroy
They are changing the game with the launch of their brand new Easy Squeeze bottle. Making it even easier to add ranch flavor to everything.
Griffin McElroy
I will say that's next level. I fucking hate that I have to put ranch dressing bottles upside down where they then rest on the very small nozzle end of the bottle top. Heavy the whole time threatening to fall over.
Travis McElroy
I'm willing to that here Easy squeeze actually translates to we used thinner, cheaper plastic so it's easier to crush it in your hand like a Coke bottle.
Justin McElroy
That's good. To celebrate, they are teaming up with Pizza Hut and football legend Eli Manning to create the one of a kind Hidden Valley Ranch signature pizza delivered by Pizza Hut. This unexpected collectible is a crave worthy.
Travis McElroy
Pizza Hut unexpected It's doing a lot of work there.
Justin McElroy
This unexpected collectible is. Yeah. Forbidden.
Travis McElroy
It should probably say this unforeseen collectible. Ungodly, unimaginable collectible.
Justin McElroy
This unfathomable collectible is a crave worthy Pizza Hut pepperoni pizza autographed by Eli Manning using the precision and control of the new.
Griffin McElroy
The precision and control afforded by these easily squeezily bottles.
Justin McElroy
Easy squeeze bottle preserved in resin for eternity.
Travis McElroy
You haven't tested that Pizza Hut. Certainly you don't know.
Griffin McElroy
You could encase this ranch covered pizza in a 10 by 10 foot lucite cube and I would still be able to smell it. You could put this motherfucker in carbonite. I would smell it from the other room.
Justin McElroy
Psa, the largest and most respected third party authentication and grading company for trade. Oh, sorry, PSA is the name of it. This is not a public service announcement.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, cool.
Justin McElroy
Psa, the largest and most respected third party authentication and grading company for trading cards memorabilia, will authenticate the prize pizza. And they're. Yeah. Like. Hey Vicki, you won't believe the day I had today. I had to watch Eli Manning sign a pizza with ranch and then sign a paper that said. Yep, he did it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, that sure is that one.
Justin McElroy
Our new bottle design is a game changer for ranch lovers. Making it even easier to enjoy every drop of Hidden Valley Ranch without the mess.
Griffin McElroy
I don't think about ranch dressing coming.
Justin McElroy
In drops, it's more of a stream.
Griffin McElroy
It's a viscous, there's a viscosity, there's no dropping that's going to happen.
Justin McElroy
If a recipe called for five drops of ranch, you wouldn't quite know what.
Griffin McElroy
You would lose your mind.
Travis McElroy
Also imagine if someone said, oh yeah, baseball. This new innovation's a real game changer. We made it a little easier to swing the bat. It's not really game changer.
Justin McElroy
The game has changed for ranch lovers though. I think it's fair. Yeah. Because the bot one lucky winner will receive the one of a kind Hidden Valley Ranch signature pizza encased in resin. And the 10 runners up are will receive a year's supply of Hidden Valley Ranch and a Pizza Hut pizza. To create your own signature moments.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, but you gotta think about one, the taxes.
Justin McElroy
How much I need in a year?
Travis McElroy
The taxes you're paying on winning that pizza. You're gonna end up having to give back at least 30% of that pizza. But also when I win that resin encased Eli Manning signed pizza, do they also provide free security for me and the pizza for life? Because I'VE just become a target. You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
You have a one of a kind piece of art. There's. Yeah. And are they gonna look after you?
Travis McElroy
No.
Justin McElroy
This is what I'm saying.
Travis McElroy
Who's gonna keep me and my family safe? Hey, Elijah. Crystal pizza.
Justin McElroy
Here's a question. Who pays the taxes on this pizza?
Travis McElroy
That's what I'm saying, Dustin.
Justin McElroy
Is that my problem? Do I have to deal with that?
Griffin McElroy
You gotta stop Eli Manning. You have to stop zooming into Eli Manning's face.
Travis McElroy
That face is actually saying very clearly, I'm not responsible for this.
Justin McElroy
Sorry, guys. Thank you. So you can go get that pizza if you want. I will say.
Travis McElroy
Or you can just buy a pizza.
Griffin McElroy
And sign it yourself.
Justin McElroy
On the actual thing, the website, it says that the pizza is dehydrated and you should not consume because it won't be safe to eat. Do you know how sad it is that they have to hedge against the possibility? They're only doing one, so they have to hedge against the possibility that the one singular pizza they make like this is going to end up in the hands of the one person on earth. It would be like, yummy, yummy.
Travis McElroy
You guys remember that heartbreaking scene of the Walking Dead where they were all out of food and the only thing left was their Eli Manning signed pizza? And they had to break open the resin.
Justin McElroy
It's dehydrated. That means we have to mix it with zombie piss.
Travis McElroy
I thought the show took a weird turn in season 33.
Justin McElroy
They mixed zombie piss with Eli Manning's.
Travis McElroy
Dehydrated resin and they used zombie Eli Manning zombie piss to do it. It was a good cameo. I can't believe they got him.
Griffin McElroy
There's still some good episodes. The whole original cast got up already. There's still some good episodes. The Eli Manning Lucite pizza arc was lost me a little bit, but the.
Travis McElroy
Robot stuff is great.
Griffin McElroy
It's great. And Negan, we're loving him.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We hope you've enjoyed yourself. I know. I've enjoyed getting to to record it. I'm very excited.
Travis McElroy
Hey, Florida or Flo Rida.
Griffin McElroy
February 20th, Flo Rida wanted to come to our shows.
Travis McElroy
Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? February 20th and 21st, my brother, my brother, me and Taz are gonna be in Tampa. It's our first live Taz in Florida. And then February 22nd, my brother, my brother and me is in Jacksonville, Florida. Tickets are on sale now. More info and ticket links go to Bit Ly Mcelroytours we got a new.
Griffin McElroy
Plush that we been working on in collab with U2's it's a Miggy plush, Miggy mackerel from the McElroy family clubhouse, a streaming program you can watch on our YouTube channel every Tuesday. It's only available for a little bit, though. It's only available till January 28th. So go to miggy.u twos, that's Y-O-U-T-O-O-Z.com and grab yourself one of these while supplies last.
Travis McElroy
Speaking of, there's only a couple of Champions Grove packages left. It's the gaming event that I put on now in its second year, Memorial Day weekend. It's fun.
Justin McElroy
I did it and I liked it. And you're not better than me.
Travis McElroy
There you go. So go to championsgrove.com for all the information and to see the remaining packages. Also, we've got a wake up and do good shirt in the merch store. And all proceeds from that shirt go to the Transgender Law center, which organizes, assist, informs and empowers thousands of individual community members towards a long term national trans led movement for liberation. And 10% of all merch proceeds this month will be donated to the Palestine Children's Relief Fund.
Griffin McElroy
Thank you so much to Montaigne for the UT's our theme song. My life is better with you. Let this powerful music start your year off so. Right. And then let's end the show very quickly. Let's just end the show very quickly. We don't know. We don't have the thing.
Travis McElroy
Maybe we should each share personal fear.
Griffin McElroy
No, go ahead.
Travis McElroy
Juice.
Griffin McElroy
Juice had it.
Justin McElroy
That's all, folks.
Travis McElroy
You do still need to say your name, though.
Justin McElroy
No, I don't want to say that. I don't want to put my name on something that doesn't have an ending.
Travis McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
Like, I really am proud of the whole episode.
Travis McElroy
Could we recreate, like if we recreate.
Justin McElroy
Recap the episode?
Travis McElroy
Yes, recreate. Like imagine like we're going to create a sound bath, but it. It's the three of us getting into a car, turning on the engine and driving away really fast. Like, you think we could make the sound of that?
Justin McElroy
We already did sound bad. And we did it.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
And we did wishes.
Travis McElroy
And now we could do the distance by cake. Acapella.
Justin McElroy
Okay, let's just. I mean.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, I mean, let's just.
Justin McElroy
No bad ideas.
Travis McElroy
He's going for stun. That was sort of beef. Adventures. All alone. All alone. All alone. In his time of reluctantly crouched at the starting line.
Justin McElroy
My name is Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
I'm Travis McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
That's not gonna be it.
Travis McElroy
By the end of the year, it's gonna be sick. We're gonna.
Justin McElroy
We'll figure it out.
Griffin McElroy
I'm Griffin McElroy.
Justin McElroy
This has been my brother. My brother being Kiss your dad square on the lips.
Unknown
Is it better with you? It's better it's better better with you My life It's better it's better with you Cuz it's who you are it's better it's better with you My life.
Justin McElroy
It's better with you Maximum Fun A.
Griffin McElroy
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Podcast Summary: My Brother, My Brother And Me – Episode MBMBaM 746: "Long Gone Daddy with Fists of Steel"
Release Date: January 20, 2025
Hosts: Justin, Travis, and Griffin McElroy
Introduction and Opening Remarks
The episode kicks off with the trademark humor of the McElroy brothers, immediately setting a lighthearted and comedic tone.
This self-deprecating joke serves as a playful disclaimer, typical of the show's informal style.
Main Topic: Navigating Imaginary Relationships
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing a listener's query on how to maintain an imaginary boyfriend or girlfriend without falling into the pitfalls of creating elaborate and unsustainable fantasies.
The trio dives deep into the complexities of inventing an imaginary partner, offering a blend of sincere advice and comedic banter.
Key Discussions and Insights:
Creating Believable Backstories
The brothers emphasize the importance of crafting a consistent and plausible backstory for the imaginary partner to avoid suspicion and maintain believability.
Balancing Reality with Fiction
They discuss the thin line between sustaining the fiction and keeping it grounded enough to fit into real-life interactions without raising red flags.
Plausible Deniability
The concept of plausible deniability is introduced as a strategy to navigate conversations where the existence of the imaginary partner might be questioned.
Social Implications and Mental Health
The discussion lightly touches on the social pressures and personal insecurities that might lead someone to invent an imaginary relationship, blending humor with genuine concern.
Notable Quotes:
Justin McElroy [06:27]: "This is a lot of work."
Reflecting the often-overwhelming effort required to maintain an imaginary relationship.
Griffin McElroy [25:34]: "She's from London, England, so to make her feel comfortable, I have gone metric."
Highlighting the lengths one might go to in order to keep the fictional persona consistent.
Secondary Segment: The Great Greeting Debate
Towards the latter part of the episode, the brothers engage in a spirited debate about appropriate greetings based on the time of day, especially in contexts that blur conventional boundaries, such as working overnight shifts.
They explore the ambiguity of phrases like "good morning" and "good night," considering scenarios where traditional greetings might feel out of place.
Key Insights:
Contextual Greetings
Emphasizing that greetings should align with the context and the state of the person being addressed.
Alternative Phrases
Suggesting more personalized and actionable greetings to foster genuine connections.
Notable Quotes:
Griffin McElroy [42:28]: "I love 'have a good one.'"
Travis McElroy [43:05]: "Hang in there."
These quotes illustrate the brothers' preference for versatile and supportive phrases over traditional time-bound greetings.
Conclusion
The episode wraps up with the brothers acknowledging the humorous and unconventional paths they've taken throughout the show. While the bulk of the content focused on navigational advice for imaginary relationships and the nuances of greetings, their signature humor and camaraderie shine through, leaving listeners both entertained and thoughtfully engaged.
A classic McElroy send-off, blending absurdity with affection, ensuring listeners are left with a smile.
Final Notes
Episode 746 of "My Brother, My Brother And Me" masterfully balances comedic elements with genuine advice, maintaining the show's beloved blend of humor and heartfelt discussion. Whether tackling the intricate logistics of imaginary relationships or debating the subtleties of daily greetings, the McElroy brothers deliver content that is both entertaining and thoughtfully crafted.