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Griffin McElroy
The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up you cool baby?
Singers (Intro/Outro)
1, 2, 3. It's the start of something beautiful A.
Griffin McElroy
Small acquaintance has blossomed it's ripened into.
Singers (Intro/Outro)
A precious friends I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park Hangs by the beach My life, it feels like.
Griffin McElroy
It'S.
Singers (Intro/Outro)
Better it's better with you My life, it's better it's better with you this is who you are it's better it's better with two.
Justin McElroy
Hello everybody and welcome to My Brother My Brother Me and advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
What's up Trav Nation? I'm your middle this brother Travis Big dog. Vroom vroom, McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
Hey, what's up Travnation? It's me, your Sweet baby brother. 3030 Media Luminary Group from McEloy. Jing Jing Jing. You just hear those sleigh bells ringling Halloween. It's the case. We're on the creep fucking candle nights creep baby.
Justin McElroy
We're on it when this comes out. Trav, think about it.
Travis McElroy
But our births haven't even happened yet. I almost said my birthday. Justin, apologies. This is a furnace.
Justin McElroy
No worries, brother.
Griffin McElroy
No worries. Get yours in there. But it's gonna slot into an open space in the candle Knights Creek. Cause I'm already putting my holiday plans together. Boys.
Justin McElroy
What are you doing?
Griffin McElroy
Have you heard?
Justin McElroy
Have you heard?
Griffin McElroy
Do you know where. Do you know where you're.
Justin McElroy
What does the angel told you you're a fan.
Griffin McElroy
The angel came down from the big star and he said, what's your ass doing on December 11? I said, you cuss? He said, fuck yeah, I cuss about this.
Justin McElroy
I can't sim.
Griffin McElroy
He said, you know Rowan Atkinson. I said, yeah. And the angel that came down from the big star was like he is completing his circuit of the traditional conflict structures in classical literature.
Travis McElroy
He's going for the canon.
Griffin McElroy
He's going for the whole thing. He's got man versus man.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Love, actually. Man versus nature. Man versus Johnny English. Man versus himself.
Justin McElroy
Bean Bean.
Griffin McElroy
Man versus society. Black Adder.
Justin McElroy
Man versus machine is rat race.
Griffin McElroy
Rat race.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Because that's a bunch of different.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Man versus bee. Unlikely. Not a Lot of people hit that one.
Travis McElroy
But in just B Movie and man.
Griffin McElroy
Versus B. Yeah, those are the only two.
Justin McElroy
If you know, Euripides or some of your great playwrights had done all the classics, they would have gotten to if.
Griffin McElroy
They had lived longer. Life expectancy back then was like you were 15 years old and you beefed it. If you made it longer, they would have gotten to man versus Bee.
Travis McElroy
But now, can I also just say, because I invoked the name, I watched an explainer video of B movie recently. It makes me mad that we haven't talked about it more.
Justin McElroy
What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Griffin McElroy
Let me.
Justin McElroy
Are you immortal? An explainer video about the B movie?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, man.
Travis McElroy
Mike's Mike makes some really good video content and he did a whole thing about the B movie.
Griffin McElroy
Rowan has completed the canon with.
Travis McElroy
Okay, yeah, I'll focus up. Focus up.
Griffin McElroy
Let me say it. The name. Man versus baby. Man versus baby. The last one.
Justin McElroy
Man versus baby.
Griffin McElroy
December 11th.
Travis McElroy
Now, just to be clear, Griffin, it's not man versus b. A, e, B, E, E. Right. It's not his girlfriend, the Bee.
Justin McElroy
I heard.
Griffin McElroy
So, like, there's fucking nothing about this film out there.
Travis McElroy
And it comes out in like five weeks.
Griffin McElroy
It comes out quite soon. Thank you. Yes. I have heard just from some like, you know, set side scuttlebutt that at the end of the movie the baby bursts open and it was actually 200 bees. That was like pranking him in a baby.
Travis McElroy
Like Wicker Man. I haven't seen it.
Griffin McElroy
Sort of a Wicker man situation.
Travis McElroy
The first one was a miniseries, wasn't it?
Griffin McElroy
This one is also a four part, 30 minute episode miniseries. Just make it a two hour movie, guys.
Justin McElroy
Give us a movie.
Travis McElroy
The massive.
Justin McElroy
Something I can put on my shelf, please. I can't have a cinema premiere.
Travis McElroy
Where's the Criterion Collection?
Justin McElroy
You know, I can't rent the Cinemark at the Huntington Mall if it doesn't get a theatrical release. You know, Netflix special with the release.
Travis McElroy
Date being in December.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
You think that there was a time where they thought about man versus Baby Jesus?
Griffin McElroy
So here's the thing. There's nothing out about this movie. You can't find fucking anything. There's two pictures from the set.
Justin McElroy
They know what. They know what you want.
Griffin McElroy
Dirty dogs are gonna fucking do with that information. We'll take it and run with it. They saw Griffin.
Justin McElroy
Can I just say, actually, I don't think there is anyone that would make good use of a lot of information about man versus Baby. I agree with you there that it is probably a smart play that like no one who wants a lot of that information about it is going to make good use of that.
Griffin McElroy
No, for sure. Only ill intent at heart. Just us mostly. There's two photos. One he's walking down the street holding a baby. One he's sitting on a couch and he's got his arms crossed and he's feeding two babies. So how many babies is it? Man versus Baby. Because if it's more, one of the.
Travis McElroy
Babies is on his side.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
He's teamed up.
Justin McElroy
Whoever wins, we're cute. I love it.
Griffin McElroy
One man and a baby versus a different meaner baby. This fall, winter, December. Boss baby. He's.
Travis McElroy
Oh, man. Man versus Boss baby.
Griffin McElroy
We're watching it. There's no trailers out there. There is a surplus of artificially inseminated trailers that have been created by robots and put on YouTube to trick everyone. This is. This is what buoys my spirits in the wake of this tide of the. Of robots taking all of our jobs. For real though this time is that all the comments in all of these AI trailers are like, this is not my Trevor Bingley. This is AI Slop. Trevor Bingley would fucking never, never, never.
Justin McElroy
He doesn't have that Trevor Bingley. Joie de vivre.
Griffin McElroy
You made his eyes all big and nightmarish. That's not my pleasant Trevor Bingley. Well intentioned house sitter.
Travis McElroy
Does he babysit? So he probably babysits in this one. I want to see if we can reverse engineer.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Man versus Baby.
Griffin McElroy
I saw one trailer that I think had some real information that said he was a schoolteacher this time around. How the. I saw man versus B. I don't want that. No.
Travis McElroy
Anyone who saw that, that's also not baby related. Like babies don't go to school.
Griffin McElroy
Well, he's. It's a school for. Just calm down.
Justin McElroy
School board ruled. Man versus Babies in Mississippi.
Griffin McElroy
It's a school for babies.
Travis McElroy
A daycare.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. He works at a daycare and there's a nativity play and no one comes to pick up the baby Jesus. So he.
Travis McElroy
So it is man versus Baby Jesus.
Griffin McElroy
Yes. And he takes him to house sit at a different house. I'm saying this out loud. This sounds also fake. There's no way. There's no way. The series is. He's a daycare teacher and he takes home a baby no one picked up while he's house sitting. A fancy house.
Travis McElroy
It's also. It's been six years since I had a baby.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Right in the house. I didn't have the Baby. I mean, had a baby around since I had a baby present in the home.
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
I don't think parents take the baby to nativity practice and just say, I'll be back in two hours.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Keep a good eye on this baby.
Justin McElroy
Why else am I letting them use the baby then if I'm not getting some free babysitting out of it? Why are they. Why am I letting them use it?
Travis McElroy
Well, you can still watch your phone while you sit in the pew.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Because the answer to that, Justin, is on your drive back to the house to get in. You know, a good hour and 15 minutes of shitting and gaming and all that stuff. You could die in a car accident on the way back, and then Mr. Bean's going to have your baby in a stranger's house for the holidays. Merry Christmas.
Travis McElroy
It's man versus and you know, it's not baby proofed.
Griffin McElroy
You know, the house isn't baby proof. He certainly isn't. Can't handle a.
Justin McElroy
Can't handle a bee.
Griffin McElroy
Do you have any idea how much more shit a human child is gonna rain down on you then? A little tiny.
Travis McElroy
Literally. I think he don't got diapers in that house.
Griffin McElroy
No way.
Justin McElroy
I think the next one they do should be man versus It's a Wonderful Life. And Clarence visits him and he's like, it would be better if I was never born. I keep versing everybody.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. I am so tired from versing everyone all the time.
Travis McElroy
Once Quard got out that I was the man to verse, people are calling me out on the street.
Justin McElroy
And then, like, Clarence shows up and he takes them to this hellscape that's just covered in bees. It's just a planet of bees.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
He's the one I like in B movie.
Justin McElroy
Like a B movie, Trav. I guess I didn't watch the Explainer.
Travis McElroy
So I might miss some of the Bee sue humanity.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Hey, did you guys catch the trailer for man versus Kramer versus Kramer? It looks like it's pretty. It looks like Versus man versus Kramer versus Predator is a fucking really, really good idea for a movie.
Justin McElroy
Man versus Kramer versus Wild versus Predator.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
Bear Grylls.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
Is on our side. But he's a baby. He's a baby. Baby bear. Baby Bear Grylls. Baby Bear Grylls. Cub Grylls.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Justin McElroy
Cub Grylls is a baby.
Griffin McElroy
He got dropped off at wilderness camp and never picked up. And so Trevor Bingley. Rowan Atkinson has to take care of him, but the homies taking care of him in it's. A married couple who are going through a hard time.
Justin McElroy
Kramer versus Kramer.
Griffin McElroy
Kramer versus Kramer. And then we'll get bees in there, too, of course. And Brett, we'll save bees for the last episode. Like, end of episode three, he finally got the baby to sleep, and he's like, oh, finally.
Justin McElroy
Time to relax.
Griffin McElroy
What's that he hears? Ding dong. Checks the nest cam. Nothing there.
Justin McElroy
Santa, It's.
Griffin McElroy
No.
Justin McElroy
Dang it.
Griffin McElroy
And he's like, oh, nothing's there. All right, back to my nap. And he puts his phone down, and the camera zooms in on the phone where you didn't see anything before. And a single bee climbs over the camera lens. And everyone at home is like, oh, shit, he's here. The bee and the bees.
Travis McElroy
And then predator shows up, hunting the bee.
Griffin McElroy
Yes, yes. And then Santa. Go ahead, Juice. Get Santa in there.
Justin McElroy
And then Santa. I mean, it's like, if you guys put Santa in it, that's. That's the thumbnail. You know what I mean? Like, then. Then every Christmas.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And the fun thing is, if we have cub girls, the baby.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Trevor Bingley, Predator. Bea. Santa, Kramer and Kramer.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, we can pick one.
Travis McElroy
We can match up, mix and match. Who's teaming up versus who in there.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Because I'd love to see Santa and predator team up against the bee.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
That's what fan fiction's at of the Kramers.
Griffin McElroy
I think I'd go with Meryl Streep in our picture over Dusty Hoff and.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. And Michael Richie. Michael Richardson.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. So we'll get Mikey, Richie. Meryl got out of that one. Good. So we'll get her and the bee and the predator at the end.
Travis McElroy
Freddy.
Griffin McElroy
Freddie can be Freddy. Yes.
Justin McElroy
Yes. Yeah, Freddie's all right.
Travis McElroy
But actually.
Griffin McElroy
And Travis. Did you hear it? The joke? I heard it. Like, there can't be anything else on top. Did you hear it?
Justin McElroy
It was like, listen, listen, listen real close.
Griffin McElroy
The perfect kind of like salt BAE you did on there. And then it was like, everybody take a step back from it.
Justin McElroy
That's really good shit. It's so rare that we recognize that in the moment.
Travis McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
Normally, we have to see it in the rear view. You know what I mean?
Travis McElroy
But this time, it's nice to know that I was there to do the seal. Or as one might say, killing blow.
Griffin McElroy
No, it's still a living document. This. This show is a living. It's in the Library of Congress.
Justin McElroy
Hey.
Griffin McElroy
Wow. In the bathroom, I keep living leaving USB drives of our show in the Library of Congress.
Travis McElroy
Bathroom sealed in a Ziploc baggie in the tank.
Griffin McElroy
Yep.
Justin McElroy
I have been seeing this psychiatrist for a while. Hey, congratulations. Oh, for my anxiety disorder. Sorry, I should have finished the whole.
Travis McElroy
Either way, congratulations. I mean, congratulations.
Justin McElroy
Either way.
Travis McElroy
Mental health is important.
Justin McElroy
It's. It's been pretty helpful. She's also really cool and recently suggested that I watch horror movies, going so far as to recommend me a few of her favorites. I've now watched 30 odd movies and the issue is I don't really like the one she's told me to watch. 30?
Griffin McElroy
That's a lot of fucking movies, dude.
Justin McElroy
Man. If somebody recommends me something, they got about 10 minutes. If they whiffed it, they've whiffed it for good, man. I found them super boring with okay scares but a baffling plot. And is there a way I can let her know about this without turning her against me? Or do I have to lie to my psychiatrist? My next appointment is on Halloween. Please help. That's from Madden by Mediocre Movies.
Griffin McElroy
Do you.
Justin McElroy
I. I personally would caution you against lying because I think your psychiatrist needs to know exactly how twisted you are. Yes.
Travis McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
Your psychiatrist. If they're going to get up there in the. In the. In the dark cobwebs and like dig around in the annals of your brain.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, they got that.
Justin McElroy
Like, aren't the clowns up there? You know what I mean?
Griffin McElroy
Like all the bad guy.
Justin McElroy
There's like both Freddy's.
Griffin McElroy
There's four people. There's four people on this earth that I want to know what scares me. And my therapist would be one of them because it would be helpful in some of our work.
Travis McElroy
I would also say the person most likely to know you are lying.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now because they've studied your slake. Yeah. They know you inside and out. It is an impressive feat to recommend someone 30 movies that they don't like.
Justin McElroy
30? You're going to get one just out.
Griffin McElroy
Of one or two is going to hit in 30. So many. So many movies to watch you don't like. And it's like if someone recommends me two movies I don't like, I've stopped taking recommendations from that person.
Justin McElroy
I don't think I've watched 30 movies this year.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. No. No way.
Travis McElroy
I would also find it concerning if my therapist, who ostensibly has studied my psyche attempting to understand my brain, then went, I know 30 movies you'll love.
Griffin McElroy
Just distressing for sure. Absolutely.
Justin McElroy
Maybe the thing is this.
Travis McElroy
The.
Justin McElroy
Your psychiatrist is actually like kind of out of their Depth. Because like, once they see the. Once they kind of see the kind of sick and twisted shit that you get off on, maybe they would be messed up too. You know what I mean? You've been watching all this crazy scary stuff.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
The psychiatrist can't help you because you watch. Didn't you listen? Yeah, don't watch that stuff. That's evil. It's evil bad. It'll make your brain bad.
Travis McElroy
I'm trying to walk you back.
Justin McElroy
Trying to fix you. Yeah, I know. Watch these boring movies, you sick fuck.
Travis McElroy
I'm trying to detox your twisting mind.
Justin McElroy
I'm trying to resensitize you, freak. I do think insatiate your bloodlust. No kidding.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
That was just a bunch of Faces of Death movies.
Travis McElroy
You're getting VHS mailed to you in unmarked packages, man.
Justin McElroy
That's direct feat of executions from prisons. You're a terrible person.
Travis McElroy
I think it's wild to me. Maybe I just have a different flavor of anxiety. But the idea that my therapist would be like, hey, I know you're in here for worrying too much and getting too much tension and being too freaked out by things. Anyway, here's 30 scary movies you should watch.
Justin McElroy
I mean, that makes sense though. It's expurgation of pity and fear. It's one of the great uses of drama. I get that. But it's just. You gotta get your rocks off, though, if it's gonna work, you know, you gotta get your grills in.
Griffin McElroy
They probably didn't include this, but I assume the therapist told them to, like, listen to Yakety Sax while they were watching the movies.
Justin McElroy
Cause if you put.
Griffin McElroy
There's like this whole theory, you know, an acceptance and commitment therapy where it's just like, take it and twist it and turn it. If you have something fucked up in your brain, like, turn it up, turn it around and look at it a different way. And so playing like Yakety Sax over, I don't know, some Troma flick, it changes it. It takes the teeth off of it. It makes you brave.
Travis McElroy
Guys have got it.
Griffin McElroy
Mm.
Travis McElroy
They don't specify the anxiety disorder, but if it's related to social anxiety, this is a test.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, fuck.
Travis McElroy
Oh, dang. Yeah. They gave you movies they knew you wouldn't like.
Justin McElroy
Why do all the grapes.
Travis McElroy
You can say it wasn't good.
Griffin McElroy
I didn't like that.
Justin McElroy
Why do all the great therapists have to use so many tricks? Yeah, you know what I mean? All the great therapists are so focused on different tricks and puzzles and ways they could catch you Up. Well, if you watch King's Speech when.
Travis McElroy
Fucking Jeffrey Rush is bullying the King to get him to stop stuttering or whatever. I didn't watch it, but I've seen the clip yelling. And he's like poking him in the eye or something. Yeah, fucking Goodwill fuck, man. Stop poking me in the eye. And he's like, didn't stutter, did you?
Griffin McElroy
Goodwill hunting. When he's like, it's not your fault, kid. And he starts to cry and when he gets close, Robin Williams farts on his hand and puts it close to his face.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man, Classic.
Griffin McElroy
What do we teach? What are we teaching here?
Travis McElroy
Math. I think that's what they're teaching in Goodwill hunting.
Griffin McElroy
They do teach a lot of math at Goodwill Hunting.
Travis McElroy
A lot of math.
Griffin McElroy
Every time you go back and watch that movie, you forget about all the math in it, huh?
Justin McElroy
No, really, you do learn something new.
Griffin McElroy
They Trojan ones. Yeah, man.
Travis McElroy
How many apples do I have? Do you like these apples or these apples?
Griffin McElroy
You need to walk in confidently and say, I've solved your puzzle. I fucking hated those shitty movies. And you are a bad person for recommending all of them. Because Travis is right. They want to make sure you can stand up.
Justin McElroy
I think Travis is right.
Griffin McElroy
You have to stand up for yourself.
Justin McElroy
Huh?
Griffin McElroy
30 bad movie recommendations. That's the case if you frame it.
Travis McElroy
As, I've solved your test. You gave me these movies because you knew I wouldn't like them. And see if I have the confidence to tell you. You've also now given them the out to say, yeah, that's exactly what it was.
Griffin McElroy
That's it.
Justin McElroy
That's it. I wonder if the therapist is like, okay, I'm hearing your feedback, Jeremy, but please, how many did you watch? Just tell me how many. Not 30. No, God damn it. Have you not been listening to anything? You watched 30 movies? What are we doing in here, Jeremy?
Travis McElroy
I recommended those a week ago.
Justin McElroy
You told me your people pleasing was under control. You watched 30 bad movies. You swore to me. You said it was getting better. Sorry.
Travis McElroy
You watched one of them twice? One to see if you missed something.
Justin McElroy
One of them was that Woobles movie with Carrie Elwes in it. What's wrong with you? This is 30. This is just 30 Burger King commercials I looped together to make an 80 minute movie. Of course it was boring.
Griffin McElroy
God, Justin, we gotta talk about.
Travis McElroy
You tried a director's cut of the Burger King loop movie.
Griffin McElroy
Justin, we gotta talk about this crazy fucking lumpy ass gourd you got going on behind you.
Travis McElroy
It's a beautiful Gourd.
Griffin McElroy
It's.
Travis McElroy
That is a biblically accurate gourd.
Griffin McElroy
It's an octopus monster that got all dried up.
Justin McElroy
Let me go into the field of view. Hold on.
Griffin McElroy
Bring him in. Beauty blog. That nasty fucking gourd Cooper grabbed got.
Justin McElroy
This cat for me at Floyd's.
Griffin McElroy
That's crazy, man.
Travis McElroy
I thought it was some ears of corn you had glued together in a.
Griffin McElroy
No, man. That's a single vegetable or fruit.
Justin McElroy
It's this. I don't know if this. Either these sometimes look like a banana sometimes, or this is one of the most important and powerful gourds ever on. On the Internet. It's an issue. I don't know.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
This is either a huge viral thing that everybody's wild about and you're seeing this everywhere on your fyp.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Or this is a nothing burger. And I still appreciate it because my daughter thought of me when she got this for me.
Travis McElroy
Listen, my daughter's never gotten me a gourd my whole life.
Griffin McElroy
Listeners at home, it looks kind of like a small pumpkin that a big fat scorpion climbed on top of and then like kind of gooshed all over.
Justin McElroy
It kinda looks like banana.
Griffin McElroy
Like a banana that someone fucked into a tiny pumpkin and then they got banana lumps everywhere.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
I don't know.
Griffin McElroy
Get it close to the camera. I know that you're not used to this wide angle, but get it up on get.
Travis McElroy
I'm giving it up. I'm glad we're a video forward podcast now.
Justin McElroy
I don't know how long it'll last.
Griffin McElroy
I don't.
Justin McElroy
I was thinking about if. Should I lacquer it? Yeah, lacquer it. Right. Lacquer that. Lack of that gourd.
Travis McElroy
That'd be cool.
Justin McElroy
This is. That's. I'm. I'm not gonna get up from my chair, so that's the best I can get.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
You're just holding that gourd for the rest of the recording. Nope.
Justin McElroy
Regarding.
Travis McElroy
Bazinga.
Justin McElroy
All right. You guys want another question? Please.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
All right, good. Allow me. My wife came home yesterday and said that her work Slack channel posted a reminder to all the staff to bring back any forks they may have accidentally taken home with them. She said she thought it was weird that anyone would take all the forks with them. I had to tell her that she was in fact the fork thief and that I had been noticing them show up in our lunch bags that she was bringing home with her. I've been washing them and putting them away with the rest of our dishes. Not thinking much about it. Brothers We've collected over a dozen forks now, and we're not sure how to get them back into the office without anyone noticing. How do we return them? That's from fork thief asking for forgiveness in Frederick.
Griffin McElroy
I feel like I can walk through the mind of this individual and look at the series of small, hidden choices they were making to themself of whether or not to confront their loved one about this fork stealing behavior and saying, no, I will accommodate it and I will, in fact, be complicit in it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, you're fencing it. He was fencing the forks.
Griffin McElroy
You're.
Justin McElroy
You're laundering him.
Griffin McElroy
You are laundering the forks. Absolutely. You are.
Justin McElroy
I mean, literally, you're putting them in a machine and then they come out yours.
Travis McElroy
I don't think so.
Justin McElroy
I'm. I guess I'm learning people. Most people are a lot less particular about their silverware than I am, because if I put one of a fork in my mouth that isn't one of my normal soldiers, I'm going to absolutely not be having a good time. I'm pretty particular about those. I like a number of tines. I like some.
Griffin McElroy
Some.
Justin McElroy
Some tight tine spacing. I like a good hand feel. If somebody is bringing in some scratty Raoul fork from Nowhere's burglar. Three for a dollar at the Dollar General. No, thank you. No, thank you. Take that back to work.
Travis McElroy
Aesthetically, Justin, What? You've been putting these away in the drawer with your other forks. When you open that drawer and you look into the fork slot and you see these weird. Don't fit the shape, don't stack right.
Justin McElroy
Oh, tell me the slots that you guys have. What are the slots in?
Travis McElroy
Little fork, big spoon. Little spoon, Butter knife.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, that's fucking amazing.
Travis McElroy
Random.
Justin McElroy
That's good.
Travis McElroy
And then random slot with like some reusable straws and some chopsticks and et cetera.
Griffin McElroy
I think you can measure how much you've given up by how you sort the silverware drawer. And at the bottom of the list is probably just like big old bucket. You throw it all in. But I think I'm probably close to the bottom of the list because we do butter knife, but some steak action will slide in there from time to time.
Travis McElroy
Oh, no, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
Big spoon, little spoon in the same drawer. Big fork, little fork in the same drawer. And then one for straws, chopsticks, et cetera.
Travis McElroy
Okay, first of all, piece by piece here. Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
You put the steak knives in with the butter knives. Oh, Justin's camera got too hot from the thing you said.
Justin McElroy
What does that happen now? It's insane. It's fucking.
Travis McElroy
Are you.
Justin McElroy
It's not that wild. It's a, it's a camera and it gets hot because it's been on for a while and then it turns off every time you act like it's like Cletus the slack jawed yokel. It's just a warm camera. Griffin, you gotta calm down.
Travis McElroy
Could you at least turn your camera feed on so I'm not looking at color boys?
Justin McElroy
No, not without standing up, I can't.
Travis McElroy
Griffin, you put the stink 19 with the butter knife. What happens when you reach in to get a butter knife and some slicey action happens?
Griffin McElroy
How much? Fucking. First of all, they all go in. Kind of like blade first, handle ass up, ass up, up, blade down. That's the way we stack our silverware. I'm not gonna fucking toss em in the knife.
Travis McElroy
So you reach in to grab a butter knife, you come away with a steak knife and then you have to put that down and pick up a butter knife. Now you've had two trips. Two trips.
Griffin McElroy
I mean all my steak knives have, you know, this fine elk bone.
Travis McElroy
If I don't get the thing I want right out of the drawer, I'm.
Griffin McElroy
So bothered I can and yeah, but I know what the difference is. I can tell by just the touch of it, of what is a butter knife and what is a steak knife. I don't need to have to.
Justin McElroy
Why are you touching the knife? Like think about it though. That's dangerous.
Griffin McElroy
To get it in, you use it. What are you talking about?
Justin McElroy
It's dangerous. What if you poked your finger? How small is your butter?
Griffin McElroy
You guys genuinely do sound a little bit like my mother in law right now, who does every time I'm in the kitchen, usually during Thanksgiving, cutting something, saying, ooh, careful, that's knife looks. And it is true that the first time that they came over Thanksgiving, I cut my finger so badly. I cut it so, so badly. And so I haven't established a great track record, but I'm good with knives. Generally speaking. I'm not gonna cut myself reaching into the butter knife.
Travis McElroy
When you mix your spoons. Let's get to spoons, Griffin. The bowl depth and size.
Griffin McElroy
I feel the same way, I guess.
Travis McElroy
Different.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, but yeah, I look at it. Here's what I do. I look down in the drawer and I look at the spoons. I say, there's a small one. I would like that for cereal.
Travis McElroy
But they don't stack correctly.
Justin McElroy
But it beg. They don't stack correctly. But it does beg the question, Griffin, if you are already doing this, if you're looking at spoons and deciding which spoon you want, why don't you just pile the spoons and the forks together then?
Griffin McElroy
Well, because. Damn, you're right. I'm no better. You're not.
Justin McElroy
You're an animal.
Travis McElroy
We live in a society.
Justin McElroy
That's fine, Griffin. You gotta claw back out. All right, I got you.
Travis McElroy
Maybe today try separating them. And just take a moment to appreciate the step you've taken.
Griffin McElroy
Is it okay to put chopsticks and straws together?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, that's fine.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I put a big bag of chopsticks, straws, Popsicle molds, trash, you know?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Travis McElroy
It also helps, Griffin, if the chopsticks can fit into one of the straws, then you can just shoot it like a blow dart into some foam.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, that's actually really important.
Griffin McElroy
The government should pay for you to move back into your own house every year. Cause I bet I would do so much of a better job this time, like, knowing where shit should go.
Justin McElroy
Cause you've lived there.
Griffin McElroy
Cause I've lived there for, like a long time.
Justin McElroy
You get mad at yourself all the time. Like, why did you do this?
Griffin McElroy
Moving sucks and it's so expensive. But if the government paid for me to do it once, now that I'm good at it, I'd kick ass.
Travis McElroy
And the government loves paying for stuff. Right now they're paying for everything, Travis.
Justin McElroy
You have to get political.
Griffin McElroy
And it's like, yeah, like, I know they're not going to do it. It's obviously a fancy dreamland. Like, we say a lot of bullshit on this show. Like, Rowan Atkinson is starring in a four part miniseries sequel to man vs Bee called man vs Baby. Like, we make shit up on this show, like, all the time. And we play with it. We play with you.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Everything I've ever said on this show is 100% true.
Justin McElroy
Perfect. That's great. Good news.
Travis McElroy
Just balance it out.
Justin McElroy
Let's take a break.
Singers (Intro/Outro)
It's better. It's better.
Travis McElroy
You know how normally Sundays are for humans?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Not anymore. Now they've come out with a brand new product, Sundays for Dogs.
Justin McElroy
This is a. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
The day of the. Wait, no, I'm looking here and I'm looking at the bag of food they sent me. It's dog food. It's not a day of the week is dog food.
Griffin McElroy
Sundays for dogs is still a kick ass, like, really strong name. I would be honored to have that on the face of a product that I created.
Travis McElroy
I did break down weekends for my kids, that Saturdays are datterdays, which is like, could mean I have things I need to take care of, like organizing the garage or whatever. Or it could be like, hey, you're gonna hang out with dad today. And then Sundays are fun days where we usually go somewhere that, you know, like a museum.
Justin McElroy
Or Fridays for the freaks, where either they'll have fun or they'll stay quiet while you have fun.
Griffin McElroy
Exactly.
Travis McElroy
Yep. Mixes, it matches. It's a beautiful system.
Griffin McElroy
Gotta move that now though, because Sundays for dogs.
Travis McElroy
Yes, Sundays for dogs. You know, normally you can either have fresh or healthy. With Sundays for dogs, you have fresh and healthy. They sent us a bag and one. I'll tell you this, both of my pups, they got sensitive tom Tums. But we've been using sundaes for dogs as treats for Lily, our big old dog. And she yummies that shit up. She loves it.
Justin McElroy
I don't know.
Travis McElroy
She's finally listening to me. For the first time ever, she finally likes Travis.
Griffin McElroy
It's amazing.
Justin McElroy
She likes me.
Travis McElroy
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Justin McElroy
Griffin Andrew McElroy. All right. My name is Peter Riddles. I'm an agent to the stars. I know you fall on hard times and I got good news for you. Which hard times?
Travis McElroy
I didn't know that.
Justin McElroy
No, you've fallen on hard times, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
Which kind of hard times? I've fallen on a few different types of hard times.
Justin McElroy
I've been struggling to pick up work lately. His brothers can't get up. Griffin, I could tell us anymore. It's been. It's sad truth.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, he's reduced.
Justin McElroy
He actually wrote a book, if you could believe it. It's getting pretty sick.
Travis McElroy
The book was it like a novel.
Justin McElroy
He had to write a book. He had to write a book. But listen I'm gonna turn things around for you, baby, because I have. I've been learning the web and I'm gonna be charging you an absolute premium to make a website for you. Because I've taken the time to make myself into an expert, Griffin. So for a very, very long time.
Travis McElroy
Sorry, what was your name again, agent man?
Griffin McElroy
Peter Squarespace is my name and I'm gonna. Are you sure that's the name you said at the start?
Travis McElroy
Said Peter Reyn Remnants with an M. Which one, Pete?
Griffin McElroy
Which one? Is it not Reynolds? No, obviously not Remnants.
Justin McElroy
Certainly not Reynolds.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. So what did you need me to. What did you need me to do, Pete?
Travis McElroy
I'm making your website, baby.
Justin McElroy
And yeah, you got to pay me a bunch of money because I'm a. I got a big team of experts and they can let you do whatever you want with a website. Griffin, you're going to have to pay me a huge premium because our websites that we build, they can do anything. You can sell stuff with these.
Travis McElroy
You can see over here real quick.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, you keep going, Pete, you're going.
Justin McElroy
To miss out on the deal.
Travis McElroy
Okay, Griffin, I think that this Remnants guy is maybe trying to take you to the cleaners. Because you can do all that with Squarespace. You don't need Remnants.
Griffin McElroy
Did say his name was Peter Squarespace.
Justin McElroy
We got. Wait, wait, wait. I don't want to interrupt, but we got world class designers. Hold on.
Travis McElroy
That was crazy getting a call from another. Another client.
Justin McElroy
Sorry, I got another guy coming in. Hold on.
Griffin McElroy
Really? That's your ringtone for.
Justin McElroy
No, Griffin's dragging his feet. I don't know, maybe I'll have room for you. Because Griffin's dragging his feet.
Griffin McElroy
I know for sure that's Sidney Do.
Justin McElroy
What? Just because the ringtone is on the wings of love.
Travis McElroy
That's gotta be my wife. You're ridiculous. You're married to Sydney too?
Griffin McElroy
Uh oh.
Justin McElroy
Peter Timney and Justin McElrap. Sydney 2, the sequel to Sydney. Yeah, so listen, I have world class designers that have made templates for me only, and I can let you use them for an exorbitant fee.
Travis McElroy
Okay, go ahead with what you're saying.
Justin McElroy
Sorry.
Griffin McElroy
First of all, the book that I'm writing is the Stowaway. I've written it. It's coming out next year. You can pre order it at Bit Lygryphenstowaway. Really excited for that.
Travis McElroy
A choose your own adventure.
Griffin McElroy
It's a choose your own adventure experience. Penguin is why you're never going anywhere. Yeah, Penguin Random House made the website for that one did not have the opportunity to whip one up. But if I did miss.
Travis McElroy
I would.
Griffin McElroy
Use Squarespace and not whatever bogus bullshit you're trying to sling my fucking way. Dude, I've got you dead to rights in my sights and I know that it's not right what you're doing.
Travis McElroy
So don't fall for Peter Remnold's predatory practices. Instead, head to squarespace.commybrother for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code mybrother to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.
Justin McElroy
Jackie Cashin hi and welcome to the.
Griffin McElroy
MaximumFun.org podcast, the Jackie and Laurie show.
Justin McElroy
Where we talk about stand up comedy.
Griffin McElroy
And how much we love it and.
Justin McElroy
How much it enrages us.
Griffin McElroy
We have a lot of experience and a lot of stories and a lot of time on our hands. So check us out. It's one hour a week and we drop it every Wednesday on maximafun.org Most.
Justin McElroy
Of the plants humans eat are technically grass.
Griffin McElroy
Most of the asphalt we drive on is almost a.
Justin McElroy
The formula of WD40 is San Diego's greatest secret.
Griffin McElroy
Zippers were invented by a Swedish immigrant. Love story.
Justin McElroy
On the podcast Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, we explore this type of amazing stuff.
Griffin McElroy
Stuff about ordinary topics like cabbage and.
Justin McElroy
Batteries and socks, topics you'd never expect to be. The title of the podcast Secretly Incredibly.
Griffin McElroy
Fascinating, Find us by searching for the word secretly in your podcast app and@maximumfun.org.
Travis McElroy
I never know if Justin's waiting for one of us to talk so he.
Griffin McElroy
Could interrupt it with a yeah, I know.
Travis McElroy
And so, like, sometimes I just like to do a gentle all right.
Griffin McElroy
S.
Justin McElroy
I want a Munch Squad. I want you, Munch Squad. Welcome to Munch Squad. It's a podcast. The podcast profiling. The latest Grace and Brian eating. And finally, someone's doing something about elf. Guys. Elf. Scooter's Coffee. This is the first press release that's.
Travis McElroy
Not a real place.
Justin McElroy
This is a first press release I've ever had that is also adventure. Cool. So I want you guys to experience.
Griffin McElroy
Is there anything we should know to be ready for the adventure?
Justin McElroy
Just imagine it in your mind, I guess, to experience the adventure. Adventure at Scooter's Coffee. Smiling is our favorite. Scooter's Coffee is partnered with those. Those wizards over at Warner Brothers Discovery Global Consumer Products.
Griffin McElroy
That doesn't say that. That doesn't say that sentence.
Justin McElroy
What?
Griffin McElroy
The wizards that.
Justin McElroy
No, I added wizards, but it does say has partnered with Warner Brothers Discovery Global Consumer Products. A global chem corp. Fuck, man. Happy holidays. From Global Kim to bring out SM in holiday cheer to coffee drive thrus far and near. The holiday menu at Scooter's Coffee is filled with magic and sweet surprises. Inspired by New Line Cinema's film Elf.
Travis McElroy
Which is at least 15 years old.
Griffin McElroy
Which is at least 600,000 years old.
Justin McElroy
Throughout the holiday season you got drinks and food items that feature maple, peppermint and cherry flavors. That's inspired by the holiday classic film. Each drink comes with served in a cup featuring Guy's designs inspired by Buddy the elf and Jovi's North Pole looks. And there's a stick. There's a sticker featuring a friendly face for the North Pole.
Griffin McElroy
Can you give me the original take on that?
Justin McElroy
That he's a sneaker. It's a sticker with a friendly face from the North Pole. Now they don't go so far as to say it Santa, but I'll be fucked if it's not Santa.
Travis McElroy
It's trademarked.
Justin McElroy
It's a sticker. But they can't say sticker. A Santa sticker. Collect them all. Collect all the wheelbarrows. Get on your way to make a sequel. Many stores will also feature holiday lighting and decor inspired by Buddy journey to New York City to save his. Find his father.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, save his father would be better.
Travis McElroy
Cherry second. I love that they put in the press release. Check this folks. We're doing something new and different this holiday season.
Griffin McElroy
Our store, holiday decorations, trees and garland.
Travis McElroy
We're gonna have lighters.
Justin McElroy
I. I really the. I really like the version of this journey where the sea serpent that greets Buddy is played by. In the TV animated special. I don't know if you guys know this, but the sea serpent that says goodbye to Buddy is voiced by one Matt Lauer. A real black mark on an otherwise pristine, delightful film.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
A monster playing a monster. Fantastic. Hey. The candy cane forest mocha hot or ice blended features our world class espresso combined with decadent mocha and peppermint flavors. A mocha drizzle and topped with whipped cream. More mocha drizzle and peppermint chips.
Travis McElroy
Wait.
Griffin McElroy
More mocha drizzle.
Travis McElroy
That's too much mocha drizzle.
Griffin McElroy
That's a lot of mocha drizzle.
Travis McElroy
That's a mocha storm.
Griffin McElroy
Why do I need strata 2 strati of mocha drizzle?
Justin McElroy
No matter which peppermint option you choose, we're bringing the candy cane forest to you.
Travis McElroy
Now.
Justin McElroy
We're gonna go through the sea of swirly twirly gumdrops and have a swirly twirly sugar cookie latte that's hot, iced, or blended well.
Travis McElroy
Now hold on. A sugar cookie is not a gumdrop.
Griffin McElroy
Close to a gum drop, dude.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
They're two wildly different sweet like universes.
Justin McElroy
Everybody hates gumdrops and they're all busted down flavors, Especially if you want to.
Travis McElroy
Build with them in toothpaste.
Justin McElroy
That is good. That's the only reason they keep making them. That's the reason only Michael's sells gumdrops because they're only for crafts.
Griffin McElroy
Have we talked about it feels like this sounds like this sounds like the kind of thing we've definitely talked about before. But is there a gingerbread house eating contest that happens after the gingerbread house creation contest? Because I would love to see someone try to pound down more than like a half dozen gumdrops.
Justin McElroy
You know what happens to the gingerbread houses that disease world makes, right?
Griffin McElroy
What?
Justin McElroy
They become houses for bees.
Griffin McElroy
I guess. Yeah, man.
Justin McElroy
I guess what they do is they take them out and they become houses for bees.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, you can't just say they become houses for bees. That is nature reproductive.
Travis McElroy
I don't know how much clearer he's saying.
Justin McElroy
Here's what I'm saying. They chuck them out there where alligators. Where the alligators and mosquitoes are. They chuck them out there and then they bring a bunch of bees and they say, fucking go for it. We got a new queen here and she loves this gingerbread house and this is her gingerbread castle. And yeah, maybe we'll name her on a. And glue wig to her or whatever. But here's. The point is you guys live in.
Travis McElroy
This fucking house now.
Justin McElroy
Eat it up.
Travis McElroy
That's, that's.
Griffin McElroy
That sucks for them, man. That's a bad.
Justin McElroy
Are you kidding? It sounds pretty fucking good.
Griffin McElroy
Except it's like, oh, guys, it's winter time and our house is going to happen. We eat it all because it's sweet candy can.
Travis McElroy
It's wintertime in Florida and California. Griffin, don't get on your high horse.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, it's what, 60? 60 in the afternoon?
Griffin McElroy
Come on.
Travis McElroy
Also, I wanna say, here's my pitch for a gingerbread house eating competition. It's not how much or how fast it is. In fact, how long do you think you can wait and then still be able to consume?
Griffin McElroy
Driest.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, so it's like driest, hardest I'm gonna wait. But if you wait too long and then you go to eat it and you're like, actually this is no longer consumable. You're disqualified.
Griffin McElroy
I have to imagine that there is. They make space for like the Big Gulp full of water that they just dunk them all in. Get it soft and gullible like they do in the hot dog one.
Travis McElroy
It would be different categories. Yeah, right. There would be with liquid without.
Griffin McElroy
With toothpicks. Without.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Toothpicks is.
Travis McElroy
Get them down.
Griffin McElroy
Chomp em down. It's faster to eat the toothpicks. Definitely.
Justin McElroy
It is. You gotta get. It's a few extra chews. Yep, there's a. There. Okay. So now and finally we've got treats inspired by Buddy the Elf. You did it. Congratulations. You made the whole journey through the press release. Now celebrate your holiday season victories with maple infused options that don't skimp on the syrup. The Buddy the Elf Maple care Malicious hot ice or blended features our signature drink. I'm assuming they mean coffee.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
But we put an elf inspired new spin on the classic Creamy Carol meets maple and rich espresso before beating top of Carol. Creamy caramel meets maple.
Travis McElroy
Creamy Carol is the woman who puts the whipped cream on all of the drinks.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, that's true. She hates it when you call her that.
Griffin McElroy
Where's the cream on my thing? Creamy Carol is. Had a death in the family. Creamy Carol is.
Travis McElroy
And none of us are trained on it.
Griffin McElroy
Creepy Carol's on sabbatical. It's rough, man. I do not know what to say to her.
Justin McElroy
Perfect for making snow angels. The Buddy the elf maple chai gives your favorite spice.
Travis McElroy
Chai.
Justin McElroy
An elf upgrade with warm notes of golden maple syrup.
Travis McElroy
How is it perfect for making snow angels?
Justin McElroy
You dump it on the ground.
Griffin McElroy
Dump it on the ground. The shape of an angel.
Justin McElroy
It's perfect for making snow angels because you need it. After you've gotten down there with Jovi and made beautiful snow angels, then you need a warmup.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Before you go find your dad. James Cobb.
Griffin McElroy
I love you, dad.
Justin McElroy
He's on the naughty list. Yeah, he is. Don't have as much of a sweet tooth as Buddy the Elf. Try our son of a Nutcracker brewed coffee. A special limited brewed coffee featuring notes of dark chocolate, roasted nuts and warm brown sugary bread. It's all based on a movie that's older than your kid's kindergarten teacher. Believe it or not. Amazing.
Griffin McElroy
Great flick.
Justin McElroy
Great flick. Great flick.
Griffin McElroy
This is one of the more comprehensive brand partnerships, I think.
Justin McElroy
Dude, we're not even done. Welcome to the. We're filled with holiday cheer. There's plenty more to cheer about with our cheery cheer sparkling float tart cherry and vanilla flavors mixed with sparkling soda and creamy snowy vanilla float topping and whipped cream for a carbonated cup of cheery cheer. This one's trying to fuck with me. I'm not great of a reader, but this one is trying to make problems for me intentionally, which is rude.
Griffin McElroy
How big's their menu that they can slot in two dozen Snowball fight cake.
Justin McElroy
Bite with a delicious bite of vanilla cake goodness with creamy blue filling surrounded by white chocolate and topped with. They're now getting into like deep cut elf references that only the real elf heads. Yeah, only the real elfies remember this.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
There's exclusive co branded X. Sorry, Elf scooters coffee merchandise. That's how I'm saying. Or no, sorry, we're pronouncing those right? Is that what we settle on? That is okay. There's co branded Elf scooter coffee merchandise. Makes for a sweet holiday gift. Available in stores and online. Our son of a Nutcracker tumbler. A stainless steel 32 ounce insulated tumbler. Finally, folks, a cup with elf on it. Yeah, I think we finally did it, guys. A coffee mug with elf.
Griffin McElroy
They've like tripled the size of their core menu.
Justin McElroy
Additional merchandise is available@scooters coffee.com including a set of a nutcracker blanket featuring the same design.
Travis McElroy
Did they just get rights to the one saying the one quote?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
What did you guys have left over that we could just troll for? So that is an exciting partnership. I'm excited to get over to Scooters. Never been to one. Can't imagine. I'll go now. Too much elf stuff.
Travis McElroy
You would have to say the name of these things out loud.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I can't do it. Won't do it.
Griffin McElroy
I'll do it like I do it at like a restaurant where I don't know how to pronounce some of the menu items. Or I'll be like, I will have these stew and they'll know what I mean when I say like this one.
Travis McElroy
Can I have this one please?
Griffin McElroy
May I have the cherry beverage?
Travis McElroy
And you know, and how many does that cost?
Griffin McElroy
You want me to say son of a nutcracker? You have a knife in your hand. You're saying say son of a nutcracker out loud.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Oh, your scooter.
Griffin McElroy
You said say son of a nutcracker or I can't finish. You said that to me. A customer at your coffee shop.
Justin McElroy
Thank God this place is a drive through. I wouldn't want to stay here for very long.
Griffin McElroy
Thanks.
Justin McElroy
On the first day of class, our TA told us not to raise our hands, but simply to speak up when we had something to share for context. I'm in grad school and There are about 20 people in the class. I respect the TA and want to follow that request, but I keep forgetting and raising my hand anyway. To say this bothers her would be an understatement. She's clearly annoyed and has even begun to threaten docking grades. I've started to realize what I'm doing part way through raising my hand and trying to pass it off as running my hand through my hair or stretching.
Griffin McElroy
Awesome.
Justin McElroy
I can only do this so many times before it looks suspicious. The other day, I tried to pass off raising my hand is pretending to shoot basketball, and it didn't go over well. Brothers, what are some other convincing ways that could pretend I am not raising my hand? That's from teacher's pest in Tennessee.
Griffin McElroy
Stretch.
Travis McElroy
No, they already said stretching.
Justin McElroy
I mean, they did cover that. Now say pretend to shoot basketball.
Griffin McElroy
Pretend to shoot basketball. Big one.
Justin McElroy
And a hoop.
Griffin McElroy
There.
Justin McElroy
He did it.
Travis McElroy
Pretend like you're raising an antenna to get better results on your invisible ham radio.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, that's good. Pretend to grab a bug.
Travis McElroy
Oh, grab a good one.
Justin McElroy
Oh, that's a good one. If you just, like, snap it out of the air and then maybe Body odor. Check.
Travis McElroy
Write a fun phrase on the palm of your hand.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, they'll think you're cheating. Don't think you're cheating.
Travis McElroy
No, no, no. So then when you raise your hand, they see and it just says, like, hi, ta.
Justin McElroy
They'll kill you.
Griffin McElroy
Wait, no.
Justin McElroy
Trey is a good idea.
Griffin McElroy
Waving hi.
Justin McElroy
I'm not. Don't call on me. I know.
Travis McElroy
I give them a thumbs up, let them know they're doing a good job.
Griffin McElroy
Just glad to see you, Teach.
Justin McElroy
Air. High five.
Griffin McElroy
It sucks that you only point.
Justin McElroy
Great point, Teach sucks.
Griffin McElroy
You only get to wave when you say hi or bye to someone. You should be able to mid conversation.
Travis McElroy
Be like, I wave all the time. What are you talking about?
Griffin McElroy
I'm fucking stoked all over again to be talking to you, man. Here's a big one for you, dude.
Travis McElroy
I'm not very good at waving, too, so I do it all the time to try to practice. Yeah, sometimes when I wave, it makes it seem like my wrist is disconnected from my hand and it's just kind.
Griffin McElroy
Of all over the place. Yeah, it needs to be more of a lever action.
Travis McElroy
I can't. I'm trying to do kind of more of a princess die. You know, parade Wave.
Justin McElroy
It would be. You know what would be nice? If we use the wave as a symbol to, like, start the conversation over. Like, I'm not. Like, I've accidentally lied a couple times, and I don't want to have this anymore. And you're going to talk to me about something I don't care about, and I just want to start over, please.
Griffin McElroy
Now watch that hand, man.
Travis McElroy
You would have to limit the amount of times you could do that, right? Like, you could do that, like, once a conversation.
Griffin McElroy
Do you guys think John Cena, the first time he did the you can't see me thing, he was just waving at himself because he was.
Travis McElroy
Or he smelled something.
Griffin McElroy
He wanted to. That's possible. Too stinky.
Travis McElroy
Or he would want to just smell something. He was trying to walk.
Griffin McElroy
That was it. It was Cena v. Rock. And the Rock was like, do you smell what the Rocket's gonna get? And John Cena was like, I don't know, man.
Travis McElroy
I'm trying. That looks cool.
Griffin McElroy
That looks really cool.
Travis McElroy
That's another thing you could do. You could do the John Cena wave. You start to wave your hand, and then you just wave right in front of your face.
Griffin McElroy
That's cool. Yeah. You raise one hand, you raise the other hand. Bring it down, Lynn. Crotch chop. Really brutalizing our microphones during this question.
Justin McElroy
It's interesting. I've been seeing interviews. John Cena lately pop up on. On TikTok, and he's talking about a lot of, like, debonair stuff, like his. Like, his preferences of coffee or.
Travis McElroy
I watched that as well, Justin.
Justin McElroy
Like, it's very debonair, and it gave me this strain, a strange emotion I don't think I've ever had before, which is the feeling that I am glad John Cena is as big as he is. So he is not bullied. Because I think if John Cena was not John Cena size, he would get bullied a lot. Like, I felt weirdly defensive for John Cena. That didn't exist. That didn't have his huge muscles. You know what I mean? But I'm glad he is as he is, as John Cena is, as big as he needs to be. And I don't think I understood this because I was not a wrestling person.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. And.
Justin McElroy
But he is, I will say, it seems, like, widely bullied in that. Even in that world, for a strong man. It seems like even people who like wrestling bullied John Cena more than they would feel comfortable bullying a man of his size.
Travis McElroy
Well, he left wrestling to go to go to Hollywood Justin, where being debonair is appreciated. Now he comes back and he's like, y' all bullied me when I was just a big strong wrestler. But look at me now.
Griffin McElroy
Look at me now.
Justin McElroy
I'd like to get a gut check from Griffin on this angle of John Cena being highly bullyable. Cause I feel that in my bones. I wanna know if it's a right. A right feeling.
Griffin McElroy
Um, I need. I need 10 seconds.
Travis McElroy
Can I also just say, Justin, he wasn't always that big. Like, as much as I wanna picture a 10 year old John Cena who's absolutely jacked and it's just the same, but scaled down to 10, there must have been a time where he did get bullied and he thought, I'm gonna become an absolutely jacked mountain of a man.
Justin McElroy
Yes. But what I'm saying is, like, I think his hugeness. His hugeness is directly proportionate to how big of a dork he was. He real? Like, a lot of people would have that realization and they'd do like 20 push ups and be like, okay, I'm all right. I feel John Cena is like, I'm a. I think I need to get just really huge to be able to carry off.
Travis McElroy
That's what I did.
Justin McElroy
Oh, yeah, Travis.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
The Travis McElroy system, he called it.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. I think where I got real big in 2000, a weirdo.
Griffin McElroy
In 2002, John Cena debuted the alias that he had at the time, which was a freestyle rapping wrestler named the Doctor of Thuganomics.
Travis McElroy
I'm gonna hyperventilate.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, so this is real canon. 100%. Fully, fully.
Justin McElroy
Super.
Griffin McElroy
I know, guys, I get it. That that sounds like some shit I would say that would be made up on this show where we say made up shit all the time, like man versus Baby. But that's very real. I have to imagine.
Justin McElroy
No, wait, man versus Baby is real too. I want to be clear. Damn it. Okay, go ahead. Thank you.
Griffin McElroy
I have to imagine.
Justin McElroy
Did you guys make that where he is? Because I didn't even Google it.
Griffin McElroy
It's very real. I have to imagine where John Cena is now. The frame, the frame he occupies now was largely. He was pressed firmly into that mold.
Justin McElroy
Like a play. Like the Play DOH Dentist.
Griffin McElroy
Like a play DOH Dentist.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Because of a slingshot effect that he took around Doctor of Thuganomics to come back, he went, whoa. And everyone's like, this sucks. And he was like. And he launched back forward into that huge guy molecule. And now he's like, he is where he is now. And that's like a. Who does that? Who can make that fucking transition?
Justin McElroy
Nobody.
Travis McElroy
Now my question is, did the doctor of Thuganomics have a PhD or a medical degree?
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
Because even in there, what it implies is that the character went, yes, I could just be a layman of Thuganomics, but I will attend more schooling.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Debuting the Doctor of Thuganomics character in 2002, Cena began performing freestyle raps and promos and wore jerseys and hats as part of his gimmick, along with the slogan word life. So he had to. He had to. They had to crush him at the bottom of the fucking pit. Batman broke his back so he could climb back up. Now he's the fucking fear, you know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
I love that.
Griffin McElroy
I love that for him.
Justin McElroy
Good for you, John. Cool Journey. Would love to get you on My Brother, My Brother and me. Or McElroy family clubhouse standing offer. John.
Travis McElroy
Or just a cool hang. If you. If you're afraid of the attention.
Justin McElroy
I'm not gonna bowl.
Travis McElroy
If you're afraid of all the attention you would get from guessing on our show, I understand that can be off putting. We can just chill out and play Fortnite together.
Justin McElroy
That's fine. My.
Travis McElroy
You can.
Justin McElroy
You can play as yourself.
Griffin McElroy
I can be you. John before.
Justin McElroy
He probably doesn't play as John Cena, right?
Travis McElroy
No, but I bet it would make him more comfortable if you did.
Justin McElroy
He'd do Pickle. He do Pickle Rick.
Griffin McElroy
John Cena loves that. John Cena's still talking about Pickle Rick. Guys.
Justin McElroy
John High. The invite was real. Griffin doesn't mean this.
Travis McElroy
Ignore that part.
Griffin McElroy
I do fully mean it. He's on his farewell tour season, still in wwe. And every once in a while he'll be like, I'm about to take you down like Pickle Rick. And they're like, dude, you can't fuck saying Griffin.
Travis McElroy
There's two things. There's two things John Cena loves that we know about. The perfect flat white, which he discusses at length in the video. Justin and I watch. And Pigle Rick.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, dude.
Travis McElroy
So when John Cena goes into a coffee shop, he orders a flat white to see if they know what they're doing. And then ask the barista also, what are your feelings on Pickle Rick?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, and you know, it's great. It's like he. He hasn't seen it. He said he. And he said in an interview he's not allowed. He said, I'm not allowed to watch Rick and Morty.
Justin McElroy
It's on Adult Swim.
Griffin McElroy
But I see a lot of really funny stuff about this movie.
Travis McElroy
I'm busy studying feganomics is what my parents told me I haven't watched.
Justin McElroy
I asked AI to generate a version of me based on what I knew about it.
Travis McElroy
So I saw a T shirt at Hot Topic and I was, I do like so focused on the iconography.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, he is a subscriber to the American Journal of Thuganomics. Because you can't just like learn that shit in 2002 and then.
Travis McElroy
No, he goes to the conferences constantly.
Justin McElroy
Changing, reads for the articles. Hey, thank you so much for listening to my brother, my brother, me and a true podcast full of absolutely true.
Travis McElroy
Stuff for grown ups.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, for dogs. This is true. On December 6th, we're going to be doing a candlelight show right here in Huntington, West Virginia at 7pm that includes a virtual stream ticket if you want that digital premiere of recording the show with bonus behind the scenes footage. That premiere is going to be December 19th at 9pm Eastern through and you can watch that through January 4th. We'll be in the chat on that, hanging out with you, watching that. All benefits from this show are going to be donated to Harmony House, which seeks to end homelessness in the Huntington area through permanent housing and supportive service programs. I don't need to tell you how important that is right now and we would really appreciate any support you can provide. Tickets for both those events are available at bit ly candlenights 2025.
Travis McElroy
Also, if this goes out at noon on Monday, which it normally does, that means that Champions Grove 2026 tickets are on sale right now. So Champions Grove, real quick. The whole pitch is there's a castle in Hocking Hills, Ohio called Ravenwood Castle. It is a Castle hotel event space. And on Memorial Day weekend we have rented it out, me and the Champions Grove folks. And I'm bringing in some game hosts and you know, people who do amazing projects in the TTRPG space to run games. You guys come in, we run the games for you. You play games with each other. We have events, we have fancy dinners, we have all kinds of stuff that you can.
Justin McElroy
You're gonna meet a bunch of cool people. I went to the first one. It was a delight.
Travis McElroy
Thank you, Justin. And that's Memorial Day weekend and we have accommodation packages for two to four people. You rent out the accommodation and that also is gonna give you. When you get the accommodation package, you get access to the event and then you're going to reserve the hotel room through Ravenwood Castle. You can find out all the information. Championsgrove.com it's there. That's also where you can get the packages. But like I said, it's on sale now and the spots are limited so don't wait. Championsgrove.com Two more quick things I did.
Griffin McElroy
Write a Choose youe Own Adventure book comes out March 10th next year. It's called the Stowaway. You can pre order that at bit lygryphenstowaway and and we also have revealed the COVID for the final Adventure Zone graphic novel adaptation written by us and our dad, illustrated by Carrie Peach. The Adventure Zone story and song. That one comes out on July 14th. There it is, July 14th and you can pre order that@theadventurezonecomic.com it's a lot of stuff happening next year. Oh and thanks to Montagne for the use for our theme song My Life Is Better with youh. It's a great one. Great track.
Justin McElroy
We got a fear trav that we want to be faster than this year.
Travis McElroy
Let me show you. Justin, would you like to read it?
Justin McElroy
This year I'm going to go faster than my fear of a large flock of birds coming down and taking me away into the sky forever.
Griffin McElroy
Fair enough. Clean, Simple, Simple.
Justin McElroy
My name is Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
I'm Travis McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
I'm Griffin McElroy.
Justin McElroy
This has been my brother. My brother me. Kiss your dad square on the lips.
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Justin McElroy
Maximum Fun.
Griffin McElroy
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Air Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Justin, Travis, and Griffin McElroy
This episode of MBMBaM is classic McElroy chaos, with the brothers dispensing comedic "advice" while spiraling through wild riffs on pop culture, Rowan Atkinson's bizarre Netflix output, the hidden perils of communal silverware, and the power of fully integrated Elf-themed coffee marketing. The show maintains its trademark blend of absurd hypotheticals and genuine brotherly camaraderie, peppered with recurring bits, inside jokes, and the gleeful undermining of the “advice” format.
The Rowan Atkinson movie riff kicks off:
The brothers muse about a new Atkinson project—“Man vs Baby”—as the latest in a string of Atkinson’s “versus” works, with escalatingly ludicrous premises.
They attempt to reverse engineer “Man vs Baby,” speculating plotlines involving Atkinson as a daycare teacher, house-sitting with a left-behind nativity-play baby, and ultimately converging on the theory that it just might be “200 bees in a baby suit.” (04:12–07:44)
The riff evolves:
The premise spirals into mashups:
Appreciation for deliberately minimal movie promotion:
Griffin notes that no one could make good use of extra info about “Man vs Baby.”
Meta-commentary: They laugh about recognizing a perfect bit in real time, with Travis declaring “I was there to do the seal... the killing blow.” (12:17)
A listener seeks advice after watching 30 (!) horror movies at their psychiatrist’s suggestion, finding none of them enjoyable.
General advice: Don’t lie to your psychiatrist.
Speculation that watching the movies was a therapeutic test—can the listener assert boundaries?
Classic MBMBaM escalation:
They riff on “evil bad movies” and therapists as tricksters, compare the advice to “Good Will Hunting” therapy methods, and joke about burger commercial movie marathons.
A listener and spouse have accidentally “laundered” a dozen work forks at home.
The brothers explore the moral and existential ramifications of accidental office theft.
Details on silverware sorting and the deep psychology of utensil organization:
On moving and the fantasy of a fresh organizational start:
Justin brings a Munch Squad on the wild scope of Scooters Coffee’s collaboration with the “Elf” movie franchise.
Extreme commitment to theme:
Roasting of gumdrops and gingerbread houses:
Absurd tangent:
A grad student is forbidden to raise their hand in class, struggles to break the habit, and needs cover stories for accidental hand-raises.
Comedic brainstorm of possible hand-raising disguises:
The brothers discuss John Cena’s public persona, transformation, and “bullyability.”
Canon confirmation: Cena really did have a “Doctor of Thuganomics” freestyle rapper gimmick in WWE.
Broader point: It took failing spectacularly in this gimmick for Cena to bounce back, much like a comic-book hero’s transformation.
Standing offer: They’d love for John Cena to hang or guest on the show. (53:34)
Irreverent, quick-witted, and uniquely affectionate. The brothers’ dialogue is peppered with sharp one-liners, deep-cut pop culture references, and a total disregard for actual expert advice—delivered in a tone that’s both self-aware and joyfully absurd. Fans and newcomers alike will find a mix of cozy chaos, literary riffing, and the small, weird truths of daily life that make MBMBaM a staple in comedy podcasting.