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Griffin McElroy
The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?
Theme Song Singer
It's the start of something beautiful A.
Justin McElroy
Small acquaintance has blossomed it's ripened into.
Theme Song Singer
A precious friends I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park Hangs by the beach My life, it feels like. It's better it's better with you My life ah, it's better it's better with you this is true it's better it's better with two.
Justin McElroy
It's better with you hello, hello and welcome to My Brother, My Brother Me, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
Travis, do like the most like, sort of genial, welcoming, like welcome to my cabin style.
Travis McElroy
Oh, didn't see you come in there. Ah, come in. Have a seat, traveler. Sit by the fire, warm yourself. What's up, Travnation? It is I.
Justin McElroy
Time out, time out on this. This wasn't my travelers. Did you ever think about that? Like, Travel Nation is good, but like.
Griffin McElroy
It sounds like travelers.
Travis McElroy
That's what our insights.
Justin McElroy
I felt the capital trav in my head. I heard that.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. When we send them out into the world, our dignitaries are ambassadors. Ambassadors. That's what I was looking for. They're travelers.
Justin McElroy
Anyways, what's up, Travnation?
Travis McElroy
I gotta finish. I gotta say the whole thing. What's up, Travnation? It's me, Armells Brother Travis. Big dog.
Justin McElroy
Wolf. Wolf.
Travis McElroy
Vroom, vroom. The Rocket McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
Thank you. Welcome, travelers, to Mine Head Superpower Mine Cauldron's bubbling engines and feast upon my faggot goose. I'm Griffin McElroy. That was my take on.
Travis McElroy
That's a trick. What you've set up is a trap.
Justin McElroy
Why is it a trap?
Griffin McElroy
Hold on. No, no, no. Let's get to the bottom of what Travis just said because I'm worried that there's a little bit of hate behind it. Why do you think that's a trap, Travis?
Travis McElroy
I'm just saying that I. You said a cave.
Griffin McElroy
I believe anyone with a. I didn't say cave. No, I didn't say cave. But your mind filled in cave because you heard unchance and you heard fatted goose and you thought this must be some Sort of nasty witch or warlock. And I think that sucks, dude.
Justin McElroy
No, I've noticed over our decades of creating the highest quality digital entertainment that if there is one character archetype that really gets the three of us, gets our rocks hard, It's. It's being able to do a nasty merchant. We love that. We love, like, a globular, like, lots of, like, pus in the throat.
Griffin McElroy
Welcome, traveler. You've got a lot of wonderful goods.
Travis McElroy
Like, I hear your bag jingling with gold.
Justin McElroy
Many, many beautiful coins to erase my palm.
Griffin McElroy
I think the new Resident Evil game, they should get rid of the zombies entirely. Or the movie that's coming out that's going to beat absolute ass. Zach Kreger's Resident Evil.
Justin McElroy
They're letting them do a good one.
Griffin McElroy
They're letting them do a good one. Get rid of zombies. Now the Umbrella Corporation has invented the M virus, and it turns you into the nasty merchant from Resident Evil 4. So it's just you and it's a bunch of dudes coming at you with fucking deals on 9 millimeter ammunition.
Travis McElroy
And yeah, occasionally you run into the Duke from Resident Evil village and he's like, I don't know about those guys. I don't know those guys. I'm not with them.
Griffin McElroy
They're not with me.
Travis McElroy
I'm not with them.
Justin McElroy
If the Duke at any point had been like, justin, do you want to go? Do you want to get out of here? Let's go.
Travis McElroy
It kind of sucks here. I've noticed.
Justin McElroy
This sucks.
Griffin McElroy
Sucks here.
Justin McElroy
Dude, look at these guys. Look behind you. There's another guy who's going to kill you. Let's get out of here.
Travis McElroy
There's like a werewolf, man. There's some kind of hairy giant who's angry.
Justin McElroy
He sucks.
Griffin McElroy
I've seen a few of these and Jean Claude Van Damme's going show up at the end and his arm's gonna be a tentacle and he's gonna kill you on top of a volcano. So we should just fucking beat cheeks.
Travis McElroy
Dude, I can buy you a new baby. I don't want to tell you my source or nothing, but I know where to get a baby.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, for sure.
Justin McElroy
You keep coming back and buying green herbs.
Griffin McElroy
Just go. Just go.
Travis McElroy
Get out of here. Oh, you want some better green herbs? Wink, wink.
Justin McElroy
Talk about you a green herb.
Griffin McElroy
Guys, I want to congratulate us.
Justin McElroy
I got the Criterion inception in here. Let's go.
Griffin McElroy
How has nobody ever made a joke about how in Resident Evil the green herb you heal yourself with is like a weed joke? It's crazy.
Travis McElroy
Nobody's ever thought about it.
Justin McElroy
I need to get on. Yeah, I need to get on T Fury right now. Just start trademark and stuff, you know what I mean? Like the podcast.
Griffin McElroy
We don't trademark enough of our joke. Like, we trademark our great ideas. I hold many trademarks and patents, but we never do jokes like the one where in Resident Evil, it's like you heal yourself with, like, marijuana leaf. A marijuana plant. That's ours.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, man.
Justin McElroy
I was thinking about how this show we started in 2010 and so this will be our 16th year of excellence. I was thinking about, and this may be something we'd have to source with our listeners, but there's gotta be some more superlatives that we could attach to ourselves at this point, right? Like my brother, My brother, me. The podcast has to at least be the longest running podcast hosted by brothers. Like, is at least that. Is it like the most that a brother podcast has gone or something? I just feel like at our age, we should be able to spin the numbers into a superlative. That would be impressive. More impressive than what we have now.
Travis McElroy
Most nominated for iHeartRadio.
Justin McElroy
That's good.
Travis McElroy
Without winning.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, fuck that, man. As long as we've been around, I'm pretty sure we've been nominated for best Ad reads for the iHeartRadio podcast awards every single year.
Justin McElroy
Year.
Griffin McElroy
So if you strip away all of that sort of, like, specificity, we might be the most nominated podcast from the iHeartRadio podcast awards. Or is it iHeartMedia now? They've changed it a couple times.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. IHeart podcast. I didn't realize they gave a Golden Globe for best podcast until, like, today.
Justin McElroy
We don't.
Travis McElroy
We weren't even nominated.
Griffin McElroy
We didn't hear. I didn't. That didn't cross my desk. We did, unfortunately. Yeah, we didn't.
Travis McElroy
Maybe next year.
Griffin McElroy
Maybe.
Justin McElroy
I didn't see who won, but congratulations to Dax Shepard.
Travis McElroy
I'm sure Dax has got a. I.
Griffin McElroy
I think they should just do a Best Ad Reads category at the Golden Globes.
Travis McElroy
We wouldn't win that one either, but when we might get nominated.
Griffin McElroy
But it would be great to be a Golden Globe nominated pot. Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. But just to hear Mahershala Ali say my brother, my brother be out loud. Would be worth it just to get the nomination.
Griffin McElroy
You could probably cut clips together from Mahershala Ali's work in the past to make it sound like he said the name.
Travis McElroy
My brother. My brother.
Griffin McElroy
And.
Travis McElroy
And me.
Justin McElroy
Trav, I almost asked you about this before the show, but then I realized it would be better to hear about during the show because I'm really curious. You did a sleep study?
Griffin McElroy
I did. How'd it go? Did you. Did you do a good job? Did you get some?
Travis McElroy
I don't think I did. So the thing was, Teresa asked me this morning. She was like, what was it?
Justin McElroy
Like, where did you go? Like, how did Theresa see you? Were you not in a lab?
Travis McElroy
This is the weirdest thing. My appointment was from 8pm to 6am So I got there at 8pm at like 9:15. They're like, go to bed. We'll wake you up at 5:30. I was like, what is this?
Griffin McElroy
So you gotta bet I've never done this or seen it or know anything about it. I assumed it was sort of like a bacta tank. Like you're in, like, Dr. Light's special cyberpod or something like that, and they just, like, got your stats up.
Travis McElroy
The most surreal thing about the experience.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Is that it was like, almost like if you know about liminal spaces. It had that feeling of like, this is almost a hotel room. This is almost a bed. This is almost a blanket. The pillows were like, crinkly plastic. Yeah, I guess. And they don't have to worry. So it's like, yeah, this is what we think a pillow that you humans would use.
Justin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
Like, it would have this feeling of like, this is like, those people are.
Justin McElroy
Also going home at night and getting into bedrooms. Like, they don't know what a bed looks like. You know, this isn't. Everyone is sleeping in these things. It doesn't have to be a special science one.
Travis McElroy
The blanket was like the idea of a blanket, but it provided no comfort or warmth.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, they.
Travis McElroy
I, at one point.
Justin McElroy
What level of sleep paraphernalia were you allowed to bring in?
Travis McElroy
Thank you for asking. I was not allowed to bring my own pillows. I was not allowed to bring my own blanket. I even brought a purple pillowcase so that I. I did not ruin one of their pillows. And they were like, no, you can't use that.
Griffin McElroy
Whoa.
Travis McElroy
You have to use our pillowcases.
Justin McElroy
What are they gonna learn from me not sleeping all night long and just tossing and turning.
Travis McElroy
I don't know, thinking about dying.
Justin McElroy
Like, what? How'd your study go?
Griffin McElroy
If you remove one of Justin's totems, the whole thing absolutely collapses.
Travis McElroy
It was wild.
Justin McElroy
You're gonna fail this test. I'm gonna fail. I can't sleep without all my different sleep gems. I need them. It felt like I was putting them together last night. And Sid said, you're assembling your Seven Samurai. Yes, yes, my seven sleepy samurai. We're getting all together.
Travis McElroy
This felt like if I was taking, like, the practical driver's exam.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And then right before the test started, they were like, oh, and by the way, we changed all the controls around so the buttons don't do what you think they do.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Have fun. Cause they, like, hooked me up to all these things. There's, like. There were some things on my chin and my, like, temples. Right. And a hose that went, like, with two prongs up my nose. And it all connected in the back with one of those sleeves, like, one might use for cable management at their desk.
Podcast Advertiser/Guest
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Travis McElroy
And there were things running down, and they're like, okay, if one of these becomes disconnected in the night, it'll show up on our system and we'll come in and fix it.
Griffin McElroy
Great.
Travis McElroy
While I'm asleep.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. They must be very sneaky.
Travis McElroy
And so I lay down, and suddenly I'm super aware of my matrix, like, tethers holding me to this bed. And that's suddenly all I could think about is like, how do I not knock these off? How do I do this?
Griffin McElroy
As a result of the study, did they figure out why you dream about kissing Santa Claus every single night?
Travis McElroy
They actually said that's normal. They said it's weird if you don't dream about kissing Santa Claus every night.
Justin McElroy
Do they film? My understanding is they film the dreams that you're having on a big screen that they watch inside the lab. Is that.
Travis McElroy
That is correct.
Griffin McElroy
And they come out as orbs, and some of the orbs are red. And you. When you.
Justin McElroy
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What Come out as orbs?
Griffin McElroy
The dream movies that they record during the. When they have you 10.
Travis McElroy
You haven't had a sleep study, Justin. So you want to.
Justin McElroy
Is this on a monitor that they're watching on the stream the orbs?
Travis McElroy
It starts on a monitor, and if it's good one, they hit record and.
Justin McElroy
They actually harvest the dream in a sphere.
Griffin McElroy
And you do have to sign a special release before they're allowed to watch the red orbs.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Joseph Gordon Levitt is there, and he says, hit record. And you hit record.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. And then Joseph Gordon Levitt lives exclusively inside my red orbs. He's in there and he's stepping. He's stepping.
Travis McElroy
Well, he did Inception, and he was like, I think I figured out this dream stuff. And he set this all up. It was incredible. And when the night was done and they woke me up at 5:30 in the goddamn morning like a normal person wakes up. They said, we're gonna need you to come back tomorrow because you woke up in the middle of a really great dream and we need to see how it ends.
Griffin McElroy
Cool.
Travis McElroy
So I gotta go back tonight so they can finish the dream. Yeah, they kicked me out with paste on my face and in my hair. And they were like, don't run your hand through your hair or your face or whatever. Go home and take a shower. And I was like, okay. So I got home.
Griffin McElroy
Hold on, Wait. Why was the sleep gel they applied to you bad for you to touch with your hand, but okay for you to touch with your delicate face skin?
Justin McElroy
No.
Travis McElroy
I think mostly they didn't want me to get all goopy on my hand. Cause I had to drive home.
Justin McElroy
Did you drove yourself home?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, what do you think I was going to do?
Justin McElroy
No, I was just thinking about the, like. I bet that was a chilly little stroll home. You know, it wasn't morning. Pretty cold outside.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, it was like 12 degrees outside. And it was like, okay, now go home after your alien ex one night stand where they kicked you out at 5:30 in the morning and said like, all right, Travis.
Justin McElroy
I'm surprised. I'd be tired if I was you.
Travis McElroy
I'd be tired, Justin.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, that's Travis's secret. He's always tired.
Travis McElroy
I am. They asked. I had to do an intake for him. And they asked, were you sleepy at any point in the day? When. And I wrote, yeah. Yeah, from the moment I woke up till now.
Justin McElroy
Did you try to sleep bad the night before? Like the night before, did you try to wake up early or something?
Travis McElroy
No, but I wasn't allowed to now. I wasn't allowed to nap. And I love a nap. I take a nap every day. And I also wasn't allowed to have any caffeinated beverages within six hours of the appointment, which is 8pm And I normally don't. But the second I read that on the form, I was like, well, that's all I want right now.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. I couldn't have read food coloring for 24 hours before my colonoscopy. That's frigging. All I could think about is slamming a fruit punch.
Travis McElroy
I see.
Justin McElroy
It's all I wanted.
Travis McElroy
The worst part was then I woke up, right? I didn't sleep. I woke up every 90 minutes.
Justin McElroy
So wait, this was all a dream? None of this happened?
Griffin McElroy
No, no, no. It's the ultimate experience.
Travis McElroy
What a waste of time, Trav.
Griffin McElroy
Thanks.
Justin McElroy
Anyway, let's do our first question.
Travis McElroy
I woke up every 90 minutes. Right. I guess when my sleep cycle ended or whatever. Wake up. Oh, I'm still here. Turnover. Right. Like five times. And I woke up in the morning and I was like this. Listen, I don't always sleep great. That's why I'm here. I don't think that was indicative.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Of a normal night's sleep for me. I know I did have that feeling.
Griffin McElroy
Of like.
Travis McElroy
That wasn't my best. I could do this again. Let me take another run at it. You guys come to my house this time. I'll set up some comfy chairs next to the bed. You just watch me this time.
Justin McElroy
Or maybe you could come to their house.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
You know what I mean? Like if it has to be all sciencey and stuff, go to the scientist's house.
Travis McElroy
Let me see how you sleep if you're so good at it.
Griffin McElroy
That's only fair. I want to give Justin.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, right.
Griffin McElroy
I'm gonna give Justin a huge special thanks for Christmas. He got Henry the Nintendo Alarmo, which is. Which is Mario's.
Justin McElroy
Oh wait, is this a sarcastic one or really?
Griffin McElroy
I mean, it's very cool and he loves it a whole lot. So I mean, kudos for that. I will say. That's great. He sets it at 6:30 in the morning and he often wakes up before that. And so when he does that, he's not there to press the button on top of Mario's alarm clock to make the sound stop coming out of it. And the sound that he does have coming out of it is the. The music that plays in Breath of the Wild when a guardian spots you and starts targeting you with its laser blast.
Justin McElroy
That boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That'll get you going.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, it'll get you going when you hear it down the hallway at 6:35 in the morning because your son is in derelict duty.
Travis McElroy
Your son's in danger.
Griffin McElroy
I'm asleep and I hear when you press it. It does make the bomb noise though. And that's pretty cool.
Justin McElroy
I mean, so that I do. Like that got you going probably. I bet though, right? Like that definitely works.
Griffin McElroy
I maybe don't want to get going sometimes. I want to celebrate the extra 20 to 25min sleep that I get past then. But not when the guardian strikes.
Justin McElroy
That's only in the morning. You're supposed to be up making breakfast or something. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Come on, man.
Justin McElroy
This is a, this is an advice show and I'd love to ask you guys a question for my listeners and get your take. I work at a pizza eatery. That's Okay. I work at a pizza.
Griffin McElroy
What did you have wrong with that?
Justin McElroy
It's just, I don't. I don't. Like, no one's ever said that.
Travis McElroy
Because that sounds like I didn't pay to watch you eat pizza.
Justin McElroy
Okay. It just felt weird. I work at a pizza place. I don't know a pizza place.
Griffin McElroy
But they knew if we said that, then we would make a joke about the two guys and a girl in Pizza Place.
Travis McElroy
Well, they cut the pizza place.
Justin McElroy
Are people running that level of calculation? Like, every word choice?
Griffin McElroy
We've been doing this for 16 years. People know our fucking. People know how to talk to us. They know the right and wrong way to talk to us. At this point, by season two of.
Travis McElroy
That show, they'd remove Pizza place from the title. It's just called Two Guys and a Girl.
Griffin McElroy
And see, they knew that we would say that. Cause we've said that a hundred thousand times. And so, like, they were just trying to be thoughtful.
Justin McElroy
I work at a pizza place, which, due to the rate at which we go through pizzas, often ends up accumulating a bunch of old, stale pizza in the back throughout the day. I'm usually the one who has to carry them all out to the dumpster. But it's not uncommon for passersby to ask me, since I'm just thrown away, could they get a slice or two? Not only is the sight of me hoisting these pies getting their hopes up, but I have to be the one to let them down easy. What's the best way that I can let any prying eyes know that despite pristine packaging, the pizza inside is actually gray and gross? That's from Pizza Caesar in Byron Center. Thank you. That your name does help to answer this question.
Griffin McElroy
Yes, yes, yes. Thank you.
Justin McElroy
Yes. That changes some of my recommendations.
Travis McElroy
Why would we have them ready and hot?
Justin McElroy
Okay, These are no longer. You have to. After hot. They are no longer ready. And I don't know what comes after ready, you know, but it's not edible. It's not. Eddie.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Those two are not mutually exclusive or they are mutually. If they're not hot, they're not ready. And if they're not ready, they're not hot. You know what I mean? You couldn't be like, here's a hot pizza. It's not ready.
Griffin McElroy
I wonder. I wonder if there's a way to. How, like when you have bananas in the home and they get too old, they start to turn brown and you think, no worries, friends. You will become soldiers in the fight for banana Bread. Thank you so much. And sometimes you'll buy bananas and just let them get nasty because you want that banana bread so bad.
Justin McElroy
There's got to be a way to.
Griffin McElroy
Repurpose old Hot and Ready's to like zone.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, it's folded over, a seal of goodness inside.
Griffin McElroy
I don't think. I don't know that that's going to get it back in the food safe zone. I was more thinking like you dehydrated, grind it down, turned it into some sort of powder, then you mix in with a, with some sort of dough and you make another pizza.
Justin McElroy
I will say, Griffin, if it was, if you could grind it down in capsule form, I think that would actually save me a ton of time on pizza consistency and chewing because I live a really busy life, you know, I can't, I'm always grinding and I don't have time to sit down and slop a slice all the time. So if I had maybe like two or three capsules.
Griffin McElroy
Two to three bottles.
Travis McElroy
Oh, gosh. If you don't have three, that's your whole day, man. You're gonna be so sluggish and tired after three pizza capsules.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, yeah, just three capsules. If I could have that and it would give me all the nutrient energy of pizza, I'll enjoy pizza.
Travis McElroy
Well, it wouldn't be hot at that point. It'd be round and ready.
Griffin McElroy
Well, that's round and ready. That's us, baby.
Justin McElroy
It'll be round and swallowable.
Griffin McElroy
Round, swallowable. Ready. Pop it in. Papa John. Let's roll.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I just need a Papa John real quick.
Justin McElroy
Papa John doesn't have the pizza pill.
Griffin McElroy
Papa John doesn't have time to make the pizza pill. Papa John's too busy reacting to other companies advertisements for their food on TikTok and Instagram. The absolute mad lad fucking 15 second videos of him looking at the new double down at kfc. Like, these guys are crazy. Thanks, Papa.
Travis McElroy
Thanks for weighing in. Papa, papa, Papa.
Justin McElroy
He's. Yes, 11.
Travis McElroy
Thank you for weighing in.
Justin McElroy
He's not Papa John anymore. I'm, I'm insistent on this. If the restaurant is still called Papa John's after he left in Disgrace, he can. Mr. Shack. After this, it's Mr. Shatner. He's no longer hot, he's no longer ready. He's William Shatner.
Griffin McElroy
He was never either of those.
Travis McElroy
He was neither hot nor ready.
Justin McElroy
He's not hot, he's not ready, he's just Mr. Shatner.
Travis McElroy
I can't stop thinking about the new Internet craze where people Are worried about, like, their. Mostly, let's be honest, their young sons becoming pizza pilled.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. I just keep thinking that maybe somehow we have started that just now in generation.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Ugh.
Justin McElroy
That's probably it. Why aren't they refrigerating the pizzas?
Travis McElroy
They're not hot.
Griffin McElroy
They're not hot at that point. I do think if you interrupt the hotness in the readiness process, at any point, you can't, like, start it back up again.
Justin McElroy
I'm just saying. Does Little Caesars say after?
Travis McElroy
We don't know. It's Little Caesars.
Griffin McElroy
Let's be careful here. It's definitely, definitely a Little Caesars. But, like, let's be. Let's head to it.
Justin McElroy
Let's be careful. If it's no longer. It's been hot and ready. All right. It's been hot and ready for, let's say, two hours. Okay. It comes out of the hot and ready stabilizer. So now it's sitting. At that point, you could say, we're not selling this to our customers. But it's still between you and me and the Little Caesar, it's pretty delicious. Still. Why not take it out at that point and just wander up and down the alley, open box. Cause Little Caesar doesn't want you to. The rule has to be take it out of the warmer, sit it on the counter, watch it die, and then take it out. Cause, like, otherwise, margins, you know, they're losing.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. I mean, food waste is obviously an enormous problem. I do think that there's a way that we can make this perhaps a community responsibility where when one of these gray old pizza dies, you take it outside and you have a little pile. The pile is outside of the store, and then that way, the foot traffic that walks by, they're going to see all of these wasted, hot and ready, no longer hot, no longer ready. And say, God damn it. It's our fault that it got this bad. They do not make these things to order. They have them ready to shoot at us from a pizza cannon. They need us in and out the door within 55 seconds. That is their mission statement. And it is our fault that we're not buying these pizzas. That's why the stack is getting so gosh darn big. Let's have a Hot N ready tonight.
Travis McElroy
Well, but then you would need an agreement from whoever this may be that when they've sold all the Hot N Ready's, they don't make more, or else it's gonna be a cyclical issue. No, that's not where you know, they make 40, they sell 40, they're like, oh, tomorrow we should make 50.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Do you want to be the hero of your town?
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
No, I'm talking to the.
Travis McElroy
Oh.
Justin McElroy
The question is, do you want to be a hero of your town? Everybody hates rats, right? They're gross. Cure disease. I hate them a lot. I think they're scary, right? Everybody hates rats. But the problem is rats are in everybody's houses. They're in the sewers. What, what if any rats. I don't have any rats.
Travis McElroy
I don't have rats at my house, dude.
Griffin McElroy
I live in our nation.
Justin McElroy
I live in our nation's capital.
Griffin McElroy
I don't have any rats in my house. Thank you. I have cherry blossom trees in my house.
Justin McElroy
You might have one rat in the White House.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Just one.
Travis McElroy
Just one.
Griffin McElroy
It's so weird. Justin likes a lot of the people.
Justin McElroy
I'm talking about him.
Travis McElroy
The head honches. Sorry, guys, I don't mean to be political. I'm just talking about.
Justin McElroy
I am talking about the big cheese.
Griffin McElroy
But like fucking Steve Miller. Do you guys think Steve Miller from Steve Miller brand? Every hears about Steven Miller and is like, this guy's harsh in my whole fucking thing.
Justin McElroy
Hey, this is Steve Miller from the Steve Miller band. You're harming the Steve Miller brand. The rats aren't gonna go anywhere else if there's a huge pile of dirty old pizza outside, right? If there's a huge mountain of dirty old pizza, the rats will just live there. There's no more rat problem. You fixed your town's rat a huge rat problem because there's a huge pile of old pizza and the rats live there. And they're the kings. They're the happiest rats. They don't bother anybody until every day.
Travis McElroy
When you settle out of the Hot and Ready's, then you go out to throw out some normal trash and there's a thousand rats in the alley. Like, what the fuck?
Justin McElroy
Holy shit. What is that? You just described something so terrifying. I want to take back my imaginary idea.
Travis McElroy
I thought we had a sweet thing going here, bud. I thought we had a situation. And then you come out, we're going to have to come in there and ratatouille some pizzas.
Griffin McElroy
Steve Miller bands had like a dozen rhythm guitarists.
Travis McElroy
But not at the same time, right?
Griffin McElroy
No, I mean, he's just going through those things like fucking tissue paper. They added him to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame recently, but just him as a solo artist, not his whole band. And people were upset about it, but it's like he had a dozen fucking guitarists. What do you want him to do?
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I want people to play this clip after they say no. Actually, the McElroys haven't lost Asep as they've aged. It's just as relevant as.
Griffin McElroy
I can't stop thinking about if Steve Miller from Steve Miller Band was thinking about now that he's really grown up, he was going to make a switch and be serious. Stephen Miller. And then like that brand has been absolutely co opted from him. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. I'd love another question if that's where the wind is taking us.
Justin McElroy
I was on the phone with a friend when my cat did a backflip right in front of me. As you can imagine, this is quite exciting. Sure. When I interrupted my friend to tell him about what had just occurred, he rightfully expressed doubt. How can I get my cat to do another sick flip? This time in front of a second witness? When I'm ready to record the trick. That's from Moni the Cat man. Sort of setting up the brand. I like that you're visual. You're getting it out into the universe already. Monty the Cat man in Hastings, Michigan.
Griffin McElroy
I do miss this about Cecil, our old cat who ran away when we were still in Austin. He was an absolute. Just built like a brick shithouse. Absolutely jacked cat. And he would do shit like if a bug got in the house, forget about it. He was going to be doing stunts and parkour and flips all over the place when you did not expect it and it was scary. It's like living with a jungle panther. I do, I. I believe you. Can we say that to this person? Oh yeah, I believe, I believe you.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Justin sounds like maybe you don't believe that their cat did a flip.
Justin McElroy
No, I do. I just think about good flip. This cat is going to be such a hero to other cats.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
This is like the greatest cat troll, one of the great cat trolls I ever heard. He's probably going to tell his friends like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm on some next levels. Yeah, I'm on some next level shit. I do. I did a backflip once. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Ever, ever, never again. You know how we always land on our feet? It was super hard because I did not know what I was doing. I did not have any fun.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Practice for months.
Travis McElroy
I don't even think I could do it again.
Griffin McElroy
No way.
Travis McElroy
Frankly, I couldn't.
Griffin McElroy
Couldn't do it again.
Justin McElroy
I couldn't do it again. I did it one time. I was, like, so scared. I was so freaked out. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
I was just moved by the spirit, maybe.
Justin McElroy
Your cat was so fucking scared doing a backflip. They were like, jesus Christ.
Griffin McElroy
What happened?
Justin McElroy
Why did I shake?
Griffin McElroy
Why did I go upside down?
Justin McElroy
What happened? That was all the way upside down.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, I keep thinking about my sort of situation. I think if you let a dragonfly loose in the house, the cat's gonna do a backflip. Let, like, 10 to 12 dragonflies loose in the house.
Justin McElroy
That's a good idea. Griffin, can you say that again?
Griffin McElroy
Let 10 to 12 dragonflies loose in the house. And in trying to get the dragonflies, I don't know how. Justin, you've gotten really good at, like, looking at the camera whenever you're talking to the audience. This is new because we're, like, got different setups and stuff. I don't. It feels weird for me to do it because I feel like I can see their little faces in my.
Travis McElroy
I don't want to do it. I think that it makes me too relatable in a way that I don't.
Justin McElroy
I'm not.
Travis McElroy
I want to be above everyone.
Justin McElroy
Do you mean that I'm making eye.
Griffin McElroy
Contact with the cam right now? Yeah, that's.
Justin McElroy
And you're looking.
Travis McElroy
I.
Justin McElroy
Look at me on the screen. You're looking at me.
Griffin McElroy
Where am I on the screen? Look at, like, look at me on the screen now.
Justin McElroy
I'm not.
Travis McElroy
Justin has set up a monitor in front of him. Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
No, I know, but I still. Hi. Let 10 to 12 dragonflies loose in the home, and the cat will do a flip trying to get them. I guarantee it.
Justin McElroy
I don't think that's a high enough concentration of dragonflies. I think, for a home, if you want to do it in, like, one room and you want to put towels at the doors, you could maybe trap 10 to 12 dragonflies in one room. But if you let 10 to 12 dragonflies in your house, that's an annoying. I think you have to bring one to 150 dragonflies.
Griffin McElroy
Sorry, 100 to 150 dragonflies. Not one to 100.
Justin McElroy
Yes. Into the house at once.
Griffin McElroy
Do you have to?
Justin McElroy
Because, like, you could. Okay, you released. Okay, you released 10.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
The cat eliminates the 10 when you're not looking.
Griffin McElroy
That sucks.
Justin McElroy
150 dragonflies. They're going to be busy for a while.
Travis McElroy
Okay, first step, you got to put a GoPro on the cat. Put a GoPro on the cat. You'll catch the flip at least from Their perspective.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Right.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. I would say you start with 10 dragonflies, add more.
Griffin McElroy
That's it.
Travis McElroy
Over time.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Because it's going to be.
Justin McElroy
You need a.
Griffin McElroy
If the cat. If this ends up being a bad idea. Now all of a sudden you have 100 to 150 dragonflies flying around your house because the cat can't get them too fast. Or they congregate in some weird place. They just stick to the ceiling where the cat can't go. Like now you just.
Travis McElroy
Or your cat does a bat flip on the first dragonfly they see, you catch it and you're like, oh, yeah. Okay. Now there's just 99 to 149 other dragonflies in my house.
Griffin McElroy
Well, I think once the first dragonfly gets got, the other 149 are gonna find their way out because they don't want to get.
Travis McElroy
Or they're gonna turn on the cat.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Pick them up, take them away.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. You didn't even think about that, did you, Justin?
Justin McElroy
We've chosen a bad animal for this. Looking at some of the data on dragonflies, they can reproduce with hundreds of eggs over days or weeks, but they can live for years.
Griffin McElroy
Wow.
Justin McElroy
So, yeah. So, yeah. So I don't know if it's a good idea, what we said. I do think, though, that they love water. So that is gonna be something that you could maybe get. Maybe they would go for if you need to get rid of them at some point. If the cat's not like helping out.
Travis McElroy
How can we do robot dragonflies?
Griffin McElroy
That's cool.
Justin McElroy
Nano. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
If I stab like little drones. If dragonflies live for years and they reproduce hundreds and thousands of times, how come when I go outside of my front door, I don't immediately breathe in the 13 to 14 dragonflies?
Travis McElroy
They're not good parents.
Justin McElroy
Cecil's. Cecil's still out there, out there hunting.
Griffin McElroy
Them all, keeping us safe.
Justin McElroy
He's looking out for you, dude.
Griffin McElroy
I love him.
Justin McElroy
He followed you.
Griffin McElroy
Beautiful. Homeward bound, we're bound. Except at the end, they didn't roll up to their folks, but instead they.
Travis McElroy
Still work out here to do.
Griffin McElroy
They became sort of their silent guardians.
Travis McElroy
We're still fighting mountain lions or something. It's been a while since I've seen.
Justin McElroy
The show, but I think that there's.
Travis McElroy
A mountain lion fight.
Griffin McElroy
Next time I get a cat, I'm going to make sure it is an extremely distinctive cat. I'm going to get a Clifford the huge blue cat situation. So that then if the cat gets lost, every single person in the City isn't like. I found a gray cat.
Justin McElroy
Thanks, dude.
Travis McElroy
I'm sure that's the one.
Griffin McElroy
Gray cat with stripes. Yeah, I've seen one of those. Awesome. I need a big blue cat. So they know Clawford. Clawford.
Justin McElroy
Hey, let's take a quick break, okay? And we'll go to the Money Zone, and then we'll come back and do eight to nine more jokes. How's that sound? Maybe 20 jokes.
Griffin McElroy
I'm being so specific with our numbers.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, we'll do between one and 150 more jokes.
Theme Song Singer
It's better. It's better with you.
Travis McElroy
You know what my cat does backflips for?
Justin McElroy
Is it Smalls? Trev?
Travis McElroy
It is Smalls cat food, Justin. I got pretty kitty.
Justin McElroy
Cats love it, too.
Travis McElroy
I got pretty kitty. She's not graceful in any way. She's a big, thudding. She's actually not big. She's little. She plods around the house, though, very loudly. She's not nearly as sneaky as she thinks she is, and she often misjudges jumps. But she's great, and I love her very much, and so I feed her Smalls cat food.
Justin McElroy
Does you have any favorite flavors? My cats, Olive and Amelia are crazy about Smooth Bird. They're. That's one of their favorites. They also like Smooth Other Bird because they like to take a walk in the wild side.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I like to mix it up. You know what I mean? We all do it. I like to eat bird and other bird, too, in my real life, so why not my cats, you know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
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Travis McElroy
Mybrother Justin, you know how all of Griffin's home decor is absolute dog shit?
Justin McElroy
Yeah, Trav, I. That is something that I care deeply about. I love decor. I know that you feel really strongly about that, and I do, too. And, you know, Wayfair is a great way to make your home look better. Wouldn't you agree, Griffin? Wouldn't you say that's important?
Griffin McElroy
This is wayfair I got this big ass shelf, this low shelf from Wayfair, just like a week ago. It's great.
Travis McElroy
Changing out some of the old stuff in your house?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
That's some of your bad stuff.
Griffin McElroy
You know, that's what I did. Why are you talking to me like that?
Travis McElroy
Maybe just updating. Well, you were in the bathroom and you just got back, so we just wanted to bring you back into the conversation.
Justin McElroy
Kind of talk about your furnishings.
Griffin McElroy
I forgot.
Travis McElroy
And they're about.
Griffin McElroy
I forgot we were even doing a show. This is how I talk to people. When I talk about Wayfair, I go like, this is that. This is them. That's them. No joke. Probably about three quarters of my office decor is.
Travis McElroy
Well, now I feel bad, Griffin, because I started this when you were in the room and I said, justin, do you know how all this stuff in Griffin's house is dog shit?
Justin McElroy
Griffin's house is dog shit.
Travis McElroy
And I was gonna talk about how you needed new stuff.
Griffin McElroy
The rest of the house is dog shit.
Justin McElroy
Wayfair.
Griffin McElroy
I have done this office up in Wayfair, and it is the crowning achievement of my surviving.
Justin McElroy
I go to Wayfair when I want to buy something nice for my house, when I want to buy something decent that I know is going to fall apart right away. You know what I mean?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Good. Good stuff. Big selection, nice quality items. Oh, and storage. Forget about it. I'm wild about storage over here. You know me, Justin. Storage McElroy. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
That's what they call.
Justin McElroy
Storage wars are over. I won. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Justin wonders. Yep. He did. Yep. I really. I had a hard time finding. I needed very specific specifications for a low shelf to fit in the background of my shot here. And I searched and they were like, here's 40. Exactly the size you need. Damn, Wayfair, you got me. You got my back. Thank you.
Justin McElroy
Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this year. For way less, head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's W A Y F A I R dot com. Wayfair. Every style, every home, everyone. You added that.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I did.
Justin McElroy
That's not part of it. They don't want everyone every day.
Travis McElroy
Buy furniture. Buy a couch now every day left a riot couch. Up and down couch.
Podcast Advertiser/Guest
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Justin McElroy
What?
Travis McElroy
Come look my credenza. Did you say, lick my credenza?
Griffin McElroy
I was gonna say, look at my credenza. And I realized the meter wasn't right, so it was just, come and look my credenza.
Travis McElroy
That's Dave Matthews after something terrible has happened to his credenza. Sorry, Somebody broke into the house. Something terrible happened to the credenza. Dave Matthews has just seen it. Oh, my God, the credenza. There we go. Thank you.
Griffin McElroy
Sleep is important, but it's difficult sometimes. I'm John Moe on Sleeping With Celebrities. Famous people help conk you out by talking in soothing voices about unimportant things. Maria Bamford on parking.
Justin McElroy
I parked in a bus stop.
Griffin McElroy
That's just not right. I am not a bus. Roxane Gay on airports. My favorite airport is Indianapolis. It has a really smart layout. Alan Tudyk on yardsticks.
Justin McElroy
You hand somebody a yardstick, yardsticks become.
Griffin McElroy
Part of the family. Granted, it's a weird idea, but it's lots of fun and it works. Listen wherever you get podcasts.
Podcast Advertiser/Guest
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Travis McElroy
What?
Justin McElroy
Why? I want a munch. I want a munch squad. Welcome, Munch Squad. It's a podcast profiling latest grades and brand eating. And today, I want to start out with a history lesson. The quesadilla is a Mexican dish, and it's made from a tortilla.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Or two tortillas.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
They're squished together and then they are cooked on a griddle or a stove.
Travis McElroy
What part of this is history?
Justin McElroy
This is the. This is what a. This is what a quesadilla has been.
Travis McElroy
That's not history, though.
Griffin McElroy
It is the history of history.
Justin McElroy
So sometimes. Sometimes it's heated in a comal, which can be made of cast iron or clay. And it has a long history where it's different. It has different versions that are celebrated throughout. For example, other variations include using wheat flour tortillas, especially northern Mexico, they use a Chihuahua cheese, or also known as queso menanita, a local cheese made by Mennonites. Now, here's an interesting fact for you about the quesadilla In Mexico City, it is not assumed that the quesadilla is going to include cheese, even though that seems implied by the name. No one quite knows about how this sort of like cultural hiccup happened or when this happened, but it is not that way through the rest of Mexico. But for some reason in Mexico City, this dish has a long and storied history. The quesadilla is an important part of the textual fabric of both Mexico and the southwest United States.
Travis McElroy
Cool.
Justin McElroy
So my question is this, if that's the case idea, what the fuck is this?
Griffin McElroy
Zaxby's. What have you done?
Travis McElroy
Zaxby's.
Justin McElroy
Zaxby's.
Griffin McElroy
What the fuck is Zaxby's? Take a beat and try again. Zaxby's.
Travis McElroy
Think about yourself. Brings back college student look and shit.
Griffin McElroy
Zaxby's, that's too thick, friend.
Justin McElroy
You know, they brought back southern fried shrimp and what they describe as giant quesadillas. And I don't know, it's as though the stuffing of the quesadilla had an ill fitting blanket. It's like it's taking a sleep study. Yeah, it's trying to wrap the quesadilla around itself, but it's too monumentally loaded with cheese and chicken. Yeah. For Zaxby is the motto. The motto is new Year, same saucy cravings. The brand famous for taking the Zax flavors fans love and delivering them in new and innovative formats is bringing back two of its most iconic creations, Southern fried shrimp and giant quesadillas. Zax was brought its beloved breading to the seas with the creation of southern fried shrimp and delivered a saucy twist to a Mexican staple. So they know about what they did. They know about it with giant quesadillas. And they do have the giant here in all caps. Because these motherfuckers.
Griffin McElroy
Can you explain kind of the. To your best ability, the sort of genetic construction of these?
Justin McElroy
So, like, okay, you know, chicken nuggets and the size and heft of a chicken nugget, right? Imagine you assembled 20 chicken nuggets in sort of a loose manhole shape, right? And then attempted haphazardly, at the bidding of your overlords, to try to cover them in tortilla, right? But there's not enough tortilla. Your bosses know it.
Griffin McElroy
It's ambitious.
Justin McElroy
They're just trying so hard.
Travis McElroy
This looks like the equivalent of one last Christmas present to wrap. And you just got to the end of the roll and you don't have another roll and you're trying different ways of taping and folding to make this sliver of paper cover the thing. There's so much filling in here that the quesadilla that the tortilla is almost not visible.
Griffin McElroy
I want to know what's in that filling. But they've attempted to sort of caulk the gaps between the chicken nuggets.
Justin McElroy
They've applied a rudimentary sort of mortar here to sort of smooth the whole thing together.
Griffin McElroy
Sort of stinky resin of what looks like cheese and maybe. Is that bacon in there as well? And sour cream? We'll find out. God damn it.
Justin McElroy
We'll find out.
Griffin McElroy
What a stack. What a stack this is.
Justin McElroy
Both menu innovations are back for a limited time only beginning January 19th, so the guests can indulge in a one, two punch of flavor delivered by some of their most beloved offerings of years past. You certainly are not implying that I should order both of these. Right? This is not a right. We're not saying that. This is a combo we want to enjoy.
Travis McElroy
Can I also say one, two punch? I am not a graphics expert. I'm not an art expert, but I do know how shadows work.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And I'm looking at this image.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And somebody had a lot of fun.
Griffin McElroy
Someone had fun with the shadows.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
It almost looks like the giant quesadilla is a vampire or perhaps translucent, actually.
Justin McElroy
That's great. The Zaxaus cast a very long shadow. The quesadilla cast notion.
Griffin McElroy
That's awesome. That looks cool, actually.
Travis McElroy
And the box. There appears to be a shadow cast from things that aren't there.
Justin McElroy
That's amazing. That's amazing.
Griffin McElroy
Hey.
Justin McElroy
You don't become the saucy. Zaxby's is one of the few chains that's still taking swings, and I thank them for that because it makes this segment worth living. You don't become the saucy chicken chain by doing what's expected. You do it by cooking up mouthwatering creations that put a new twist on classic flavors. Call it a three piece. Zaxby's is heading back to the Zaxis with the return of its Southern fried shrimp, making waves on the menus for a third year in a row. This time, Zaxby's is shrimping in three different ways, so there's something for every seafood lover.
Travis McElroy
You can.
Justin McElroy
They like the shrimp at Zaxby's.
Travis McElroy
You can't make the bold claim of you can't become the saucy king, whatever, by doing what's expected. So for the third year in a.
Justin McElroy
Row, we're running right, we're going back to the Zax seas alongside the maritime favorite. Sure, Zaxby's Giant.
Travis McElroy
They eat them on the ships, Justin. They love the shrimp.
Justin McElroy
We would eat the albatross and when.
Griffin McElroy
We ran out of albatross, we'd eat the men.
Justin McElroy
And when we ran out of men.
Griffin McElroy
We'D eat the giant quesadillas.
Travis McElroy
And we were cursed with calm seas to re through the giant quesadilla's overboard.
Justin McElroy
Cursed.
Griffin McElroy
I told them. Cursed. You can't have a woman aboard.
Justin McElroy
You must have a cat and you.
Griffin McElroy
Can'T have a quesadilla.
Justin McElroy
They're making the return after their debut last year. Stacked and packed.
Travis McElroy
Stacked just like me. Socks.
Justin McElroy
It's socks, man. Stacked and packed with three of Zaxby's hand bread.
Travis McElroy
It's stacked and packed on its skin.
Justin McElroy
Or else it can get stuck. And breaded. Chicken fingers with a Z. Fuck off. The brand is offering two different ways to go big. Literally, with these hunger busting off.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, that's a way to put it, you nasty dog.
Griffin McElroy
With these toilet shattering pillows of food.
Justin McElroy
Can I just have a regular lunch and. No, no, like really eat our chicken.
Travis McElroy
D our chickens. Get sick of her cook. Punish yourself. You know why?
Griffin McElroy
What's in these things? I gotta know what's in these things.
Justin McElroy
Rupture your flesh.
Travis McElroy
Prison.
Justin McElroy
Hey, listen, here's the deal.
Travis McElroy
It's time to ascend.
Griffin McElroy
Ascend.
Travis McElroy
With Zaxby's, the tortillas have gotta be.
Justin McElroy
Big to hold in all this sinning. A giant quesadilla packed with three hand breaded chicken fingers from fox.
Griffin McElroy
They're big with a snake.
Justin McElroy
What it is, it's a giant quesadilla packed with three hand breaded chicken fingers. Cheddar jack cheese, hardwood smoked bacon and creamy ranch dressing all folded into a warm flour tortilla, served with, against reason and logic, a side of ranch.
Travis McElroy
No, I was afraid that would be the case. Justin. I saw the sauce, I thought, no.
Justin McElroy
Certainly not a small drink. Now I'm assuming that the small drink is just included in the deal.
Travis McElroy
Like, I don't.
Justin McElroy
Please. It's mixed in the combo diatribe.
Griffin McElroy
It wasn't originally quesadilla. It was a liability issue. You need a friend to help it go down.
Justin McElroy
Choking hazard.
Travis McElroy
At what point does it go from quesadilla to like taco?
Griffin McElroy
Well, I think quesadilla means.
Justin McElroy
Doesn't the dia imply like a diminutive? Isn't that a small? I don't think.
Griffin McElroy
I don't think so.
Justin McElroy
I Don't think so, but maybe. No, it's. Ito is what I'm thinking of. Anyway, we're kicking off the new year with bold flavor and fan favorite, says Patrick Schwing, chief marketing and strategy officer at Zaxby's. Our guests have told us loud and clear, said Patrick Schwing. Southern fried shrimp and our giant chicken quesadillas are two menu items they crave.
Griffin McElroy
Dia does diminutive. Justin. I apologize for correcting you, Justin. Dia does mean diminutive. And I stepped up from my six years of Spanish education, and I thought, I'm going to make my brother seem small right now. And I was wrong. And now I'm small. And I apologize.
Justin McElroy
If you, like me, had remained in college a fifth year to take your fourth Spanish class again because you failed it the first time, maybe you would recall a little bit better. Yeah. That memory. You got to do repetition. That's the thing. If you take Spanish for twice the second time, we are bringing them both back to give them exactly what they want. Our famous fingers. Sauces in new meals that they can only get at Zaxby's. Whether you're diving back into the Zax Cs or doubling down on bold cheesy. I'm going to get a tattoo that says Zax Sees Guys. It's all I could think about. Zaxby's is making sure fans start the year right now. What they mean by right there is anybody's guess.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Cause it's not in the light of the Lord, so I don't know what right they're referring to.
Travis McElroy
I don't know who wakes up January 1st and says, you know what I'm gonna do this year?
Justin McElroy
I'm gotta get it to you this year. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
You know what? I've made a promise to myself and to you, Deborah. I know where I fell short last year. As a husband and a father and a person, I will eat more. Zach Zaxby's. You're right.
Justin McElroy
I'm gonna swim the Zaxy's.
Travis McElroy
I'm gonna get fingered at Zaxby's. Like I always wanted to dream.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, man, that's cool.
Travis McElroy
It's on my bucket list. And you know what? I'm 75 years old. I'm not getting any younger. Hey, Zaxby, I'm gonna.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, Zaxby. Super Bowl's coming up, and these big boys are throwing heaters today, so you.
Travis McElroy
You.
Griffin McElroy
You can use one of these. Please, please. Just put us at the end of.
Travis McElroy
The get fingered at Zaxby's. Get fingered at powerful.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
I have a mini fridge in my garage that stopped working years ago and I finally took it to the curb this morning. Don't you love shit like that? Yes. We realized, like, hey, why are we keeping this, man? Let's get rid of this. I placed a bag of trash on top of it to clearly communicate. This is trash. As I was backing out of my driveway, I was waiting for an opening to reverse into the street, and someone pulled up to my neighbor's driveway, walked directly in front of my car, removed the trash bag from the fridge, and took the fridge. He is now loading the fridge in his car. Am I obligated to roll down my window and let this person know the fridge is not functional? Please hurry. His hatchback is open and he is clearing space to make room. That's from Hesitant in Houston. I don't know. At which point we and the listeners agreed that it is assumed we're answering these questions in real time. But it is. It's always a great conceit. Hey, wait just one second.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting.
Justin McElroy
Hold on, wait. I'm waiting for our podcast to be released.
Griffin McElroy
Are you doing anything before next month?
Justin McElroy
Sorry, I don't have an subscription, so I gotta wait till Monday for it to release.
Griffin McElroy
First of all, you don't know what they're gonna be doing with it. Could be. Maybe they need a broken. Maybe it's a prop for a stage play. Maybe it is. They need the refrigerator parts. Cause they're trying to build their own wall. E. Maybe they need a box that doesn't get hot or cold, that they can keep food in just a normal box.
Justin McElroy
Maybe they wanna trap Punky Brewster's friend.
Griffin McElroy
Maybe they are setting a Punky Brewster's friend trap and they need a box, a refrigerator box for it. There's so many reasons they're gonna blow.
Travis McElroy
It up, you know, for like a viral video.
Griffin McElroy
Blow it up?
Justin McElroy
Maybe.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, they're gonna blow it up.
Justin McElroy
This may seem wild, but maybe they're gonna try to fix it.
Travis McElroy
You can't fix.
Griffin McElroy
Tell me how you fix a fridge or braider.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Fix an appliance. What are you talking about?
Justin McElroy
I'm just like, with tape. I don't go around picking up fridges because I wouldn't know how to fix it if it wasn't working.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
But my assumption when I picked it up off the street would not be, oh, perfect fridge, Nice.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
You know, that's true. I think that if you leaned out your window and said, hey, just so you know, that doesn't work. The response is almost certainly going to be, yeah, no doy.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, no shit. Really? No shit. That's why it's free. Huh?
Travis McElroy
I thought this was just your little yard fridge.
Justin McElroy
You take that to the flea market, you slap a sticker on it, says $5. Oops, that's profit.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Justin McElroy
Just because that person could recognize it, you can't. That's not their fault.
Podcast Advertiser/Guest
Or.
Travis McElroy
Or you trade it up. Yeah, yeah, you trade it up.
Griffin McElroy
How the fuck did you think that? That is what I was going to say.
Justin McElroy
Why did you assume that I was like.
Griffin McElroy
Or you were like, yes, Griffin, trade it up. That was. That was wrong and wild.
Travis McElroy
No, like, you're going to take the broken mini fridge to the flea market. No, you're going to see, like, a broken stand mixer. I'm gonna trade this for the broken stand mixer, and then I trade the broken stand mixer for, like, a broken jukebox, and pretty soon I own a house.
Justin McElroy
Okay, A broken house.
Travis McElroy
A broken house. There was a broken man who owned a broken house.
Justin McElroy
There should be a trade. Your broken Dodge SRT for a broken house.
Griffin McElroy
I would love it if we could check in on one of those people who, back when vine existed, were like, hey, everyone, here's my daily trade. Trading up from paperclip up to get my own house. But then you check in on them 10 years later and they're like, guys, I kept trading and I got back down to a paperclip. Sometimes I don't know what happened.
Justin McElroy
Sometimes.
Griffin McElroy
Sometimes you bite the dog, Sometimes the dog bites you. I was in a house for a sweet minute there, but then someone was like, hey, this is a nice house. Do you want to try this van? And then it went van. Then it went telescope, then it went broken stand mixer, then it went broken microwave, and now I got a paperclip again. God damn it. But I'm coming back. You only lose once. You give up. I'm coming back to a house for sure.
Travis McElroy
Hey, guys. I started with a paperclip. I traded my way up. Turned out that paperclip was like a one of a kind misprint from 1963 worth $5 million. So if you have that paperclip still, I'll trade you this house. Trade you back for it.
Griffin McElroy
Could have saved us both a lot of time. Lot of time.
Justin McElroy
How about another question?
Griffin McElroy
Sure.
Travis McElroy
Do it.
Justin McElroy
I work at a nature center, and in the summer, the bushes are overflowing with delicious black raspberries. Raspberries, however they're called. Blackberries. How embarrassing. However, we are located in the city park and foraging is prohibited during all daylight hours. Seven days a week. The whole area is crawling with management, summer camp kids, other staff, and just regular park goers, all of whom could be potential witnesses to my crimes. How do I avoid getting spotted while taking all the berries my heart desires? And if I get spotted, what excuses can I make to get away scot free? That's from Raspberry Swiper in southeast Michigan.
Griffin McElroy
Wow.
Justin McElroy
What?
Travis McElroy
Can we as a society agree to get rid of the pee in raspberry?
Griffin McElroy
I think we should. I think we need to circle back as the society to a lot of words. Wednesday. Raspberry. Just a lot.
Justin McElroy
Restaurant.
Griffin McElroy
Thank you.
Travis McElroy
Oh, my God. Restaurant always gets me. Where's that? You go. Who the fuck knows?
Griffin McElroy
No one knows.
Justin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
Could you, if caught, say, like, poison checker?
Griffin McElroy
Yep.
Justin McElroy
They would know. That person would be on staff.
Griffin McElroy
They would probably know.
Travis McElroy
That's a good point.
Justin McElroy
You know what I mean? Like, that person would be on staff. They would be employed. They wouldn't be a volunteer. I don't think you can be a volunteer, Poison checker.
Griffin McElroy
So maybe you hand out a handful of raspberries. They're looking for. They're not gonna bust you. They're looking for you.
Justin McElroy
That's what I would. I just put the wrist out.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Let's go.
Griffin McElroy
Bless me. Let's go.
Justin McElroy
Let's go.
Griffin McElroy
And then they come up to you.
Justin McElroy
They can lock me up for these delicious berries.
Griffin McElroy
They come up to you to slap the cuffs on you. Open your palms. You're giving them some delicious black raspberries.
Travis McElroy
Let them get their beak wet.
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
Because they're a crow.
Griffin McElroy
You say, welcome to the.
Justin McElroy
I know what you might be thinking. Boy, these guys are sure letting it show how their interactions with cops typically go is two, three white guys. See, it may not sound like a great idea to you to offer these cops. Barry.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, now, wait, hold on. But you've jumped from. I work at a nature preserve. There's kids around. And my bosses and your.
Griffin McElroy
And your. And your actual assumption is. I think this says more about your anxiety than anything else that your assumption is cops are going to be like, those aren't your black raspberries.
Travis McElroy
I'm taking your boss.
Justin McElroy
Your boss spots you and calls.
Travis McElroy
Hey, I warned you.
Justin McElroy
It's a theft. It's a theft. Prohibited doesn't mean by social mores. It means by the law. Do you understand?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. This is what I'm saying.
Justin McElroy
Of course it's illegal.
Griffin McElroy
You say there's fucking.
Justin McElroy
Foraging is prohibited. That is a legal. It is a city park. Yes, foraging is prohibited.
Griffin McElroy
It's a crime.
Justin McElroy
It's a crime. You'll go to jail.
Griffin McElroy
Okay? So. But, like, be cool, dude. Like, we used to be so cool. And we'd be like, yeah, man, you're on the rip. You need to say, you give them to your boss or whoever comes by. He's like, you know that foraging is prohibited. You open your palms. There's a bunch of black raspberries in there. You say, welcome to the rip, my friend. They eat them. You say, now we're both dirty. And now you got two baskets going around grabbing these things.
Justin McElroy
Oh, God. What if you just smush a berry? Like, they come up to you to bust you, and you smush a berry on their hand?
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Justin McElroy
Like, oh, that's forever. Look at you. It looks like you're culpable. You better still help me clean up. You're going down.
Griffin McElroy
Going down. I'll take you with me. I swear to God.
Justin McElroy
Take you with me. They just rub it on your teeth. Look at that.
Griffin McElroy
Look at that.
Justin McElroy
Somebody's a sloppy eater. Looking hungry.
Travis McElroy
Blame it on a bear.
Griffin McElroy
If they catch you picking berries off of a plant, say it's because of a bear.
Travis McElroy
The bear made me do it.
Griffin McElroy
Bear has my family. My name is Ranger Rick. A bear who is very mean has taken my family. I do not know where they are. He says he wants picnic baskets. He says it's hard for him to get them cause he's a bear. But I am in a position of authority. People trust me.
Travis McElroy
I'm worried that my wife has developed Stockholm syndrome.
Justin McElroy
My name is Special Agent Jack BAUER. I have 12 hours to retrieve enough blackberries to save my daughter Kim and the country.
Travis McElroy
As long as they're out.
Justin McElroy
And the country. Yeah, it's the country, too. It's a country thing. What if you fell into the brambles mouth first, and then it's like, this is poorly labeled. Ah, I believe I've scraped myself. Ah. Management is to be blamed. And then, like, as they're like, oh, no, sir, I'm sorry. Please, please, no, I'm sorry. Just like, grabbing.
Travis McElroy
I thought you were gonna go for, like, a slip and fall thing. It's like, yeah, you slip and fall.
Justin McElroy
Into the berries, right? And then you're just like. Like, no one could get mad at you because they're worried about a lawsuit.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Cause you. You might have gotten cut on the.
Griffin McElroy
You will get cut. I think that's important to say that Justin's plan does come with a certain amount of bodily harm. Justin has some lovely BlackBerry bushes outside of his house that when we go and stay there, sometimes we'll go out and pick them if they're in season. And nothing connects me more to my kind of, like, ancient roots. Nothing puts me on deep time more than getting poked by a bramble when I'm trying to get a berry out of a bush. And I'm like, this is what it was like. This is what it was like back then. And I'm not cut out for this lifestyle. I'm a hunter.
Travis McElroy
That's true.
Griffin McElroy
I'm a hunter, not a gatherer.
Travis McElroy
That's not true.
Griffin McElroy
Which part?
Travis McElroy
The hunter part?
Griffin McElroy
Well, there wasn't a third thing. So if I'm not a gatherer, I had to be a hunter.
Travis McElroy
Dad, I think was the third stuff.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, somebody's eating it, you know. Gotta be eaters. Otherwise, what are we hunting and gathering for? There's gotta be podcasters, you know.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, shit.
Travis McElroy
Those are the three times.
Justin McElroy
Hunters, gatherers, podcasters.
Griffin McElroy
And we must stop this train of thought because it'll get us to a point where our obsolescence becomes so crystallized.
Travis McElroy
Overwhelming.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. So obvious. You know what? I can't think of a better note to end on. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. Hey, thank you for indulging us for another hour.
Travis McElroy
We need this. Thank you so much.
Justin McElroy
We need this.
Travis McElroy
We need this more than you at this point.
Justin McElroy
It's 2026 and we need this.
Travis McElroy
We need this. We need you.
Justin McElroy
Stop it.
Travis McElroy
Hey, we got merch over in the merch store if you haven't checked that out. We got backpacks. There's Taz and my brother and my brother me. Options designed by Justin Gray, who is burnt to build on Instagram. And 10% of all merch proceeds this month will be donated to the Immigrant Defenders Law Center. Also, we started back with McElroy Entertainment System over on our YouTube channel. We just did a really fun animal crossing with the new update. And we've also started, like individual streaming over there.
Justin McElroy
Tuesdays at noon is going to be super McElroy brothers playing games. The last Tuesday of every month is going to be clubhouse and you can find us on YouTube. Come watch. And then we got streams going throughout. We've got. We're doing more gaming streams.
Travis McElroy
I've got ADHD, Techtif coming up on Wednesday. Wednesday's at 11:00am Wednesday's at 11:00am I'm.
Griffin McElroy
Gonna be doing something.
Justin McElroy
Travis, that's almost now.
Griffin McElroy
Oh, Shit. I know, dude.
Travis McElroy
I will. You gotta go, dude.
Justin McElroy
Let's wrap this up.
Travis McElroy
Also wanted to let everyone know we got like four more packages over at Champions Grove. We got a 10% New Year sale, 10% off New Year sale going right now. Go to championsgrove.com check that out. It's four person attendance packages. Come hang out at a castle in Hocking Hills, Ohio. Play some really fun games, do some workshops. All kinds of fun stuff with me and some other really cool creators like Christine, Ariel, Hayley, Whipjack, Paul Foxcroft, Riley Silverman, Diego Salinas and Vivvivka. One more time. Check that@championsgrove.com. we'll see you there.
Griffin McElroy
I've got a couple books coming out. My choose your own adventure book, the stowaway, comes out March 10th. You can pre order that now at bit lygryphenstowaway. It's a SCI fi romp out in outer space and it's full of high intrigue, adventure and danger. Also, we have the last Taz graphic novel coming out in July and you can pre order that as well@theadventurezonecomic.com Also.
Travis McElroy
We haven't mentioned it in a while. If you have questions for the show, you can send them to nbmbamaximumfun.org yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Please and thanks to Montaigne for these five. Theme song, my Life Is Better with youh. It's a great track and a golden oldie and I love it so much. It looks like Justin's got something chuckable ready here.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. I watched you turn around, Justin. I was like, wow, he's really checked out.
Griffin McElroy
It is his turn to.
Travis McElroy
And then I realized like, like he's gotta find something to heat.
Justin McElroy
I gotta find something to throw. Yeah, I got shure headphones. They're like in ear headphones in a case. So I think the case may actually be what saves me.
Griffin McElroy
You got a lot of stuff in the background. Where are you gonna aim so that you don't destroy something that way? Okay, just right here.
Travis McElroy
We need to get the audio at the acoustic panels. Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Oh, that's a good point. But I gotta make it. Okay, there's like one square.
Griffin McElroy
Can you throw it at the microphone? No. Cause if you miss, it's not gonna.
Justin McElroy
So there's one square at the ceiling.
Griffin McElroy
Okay, Justin's gonna throw it up. Wait, wait, wait. And now our. Our big toss for the big boy. A heater.
Justin McElroy
Here we go. My name is Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
I'm Travis McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
I'm Griffin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
Did you miss your dad?
Griffin McElroy
Sounded like you missed.
Travis McElroy
I think you missed.
Justin McElroy
You can't miss. You make it stink.
Theme Song Singer
Is better with you. My life, it's better. It's better with you. It's better My life, it's better. It's better with you. Is it who you are? It's better. It's better with two. It's better with you.
Griffin McElroy
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My Brother, My Brother and Me 798: Round and Swallowable
Original Air Date: January 26, 2026
Hosts: Justin, Travis, and Griffin McElroy
In this lively episode of MBMBaM, the McElroy brothers deliver their trademark blend of comedic advice, sibling banter, and surreal scenarios. The show kicks off with high energy, nonsense intros, and quickly dips into odd hypothetical worlds—from Resident Evil-inspired merchant bits to pontifications about sleep studies, pizza capsules, and the ethics of foraging in a city park. Along the way, they tackle listener questions with their usual absurd sincerity, imagine dystopian food trends, debate linguistic pet peeves, roast fast-food innovations, and reflect on their podcasting legacy.
The episode is a quintessential MBMBaM mix of playful absurdity, callback-heavy humor, and exaggerated advice that is both knowingly unhelpful and strangely cathartic. The brothers riff off each other's narratives with escalating surrealism, blending mundane grievances (alarm clocks, appliance disposal) with wild hypotheticals (drug-pizza capsules, merchant-infested video game apocalypses, berry-foraging subterfuge). Their signature bits—linguistic pet peeves, spin-offs on listener questions, and the Munch Squad’s earnest disgust at food trends—are all on full display, creating an episode that’s both welcoming to long-time fans and accessible to new listeners.
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