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Travis McElroy
The McElroy brothers are not experts and
Griffin McElroy
their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which
Travis McElroy
I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?
Theme Song Singer
It's the start of something beautiful A
Griffin McElroy
small acquaintance has blossomed it's ripened into
Theme Song Singer
a precious friends I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park Hangs by the beach My life, it feels like. It's better it's better with you My life, it's better it's better with you this is true it's better it's better with two. What's better with you?
Justin McElroy
Hello everybody. Welcome to My Brother, My Brother, Me and Advice show for the Majin era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.
Travis McElroy
What up Trav Nation? It's me, your middlest brother, Travis. Big dog.
Bria Grant
Wolf.
Travis McElroy
Wolf. Vroom, vroom. The heater award winning McElroy.
Griffin McElroy
What's up Trav Nation? It's me, your Sweet baby brother, 30 under 30, media luminary Griffin. Bill Ford, tough McIlroy. Which year is it? It's not the car one, is it? It's not the Car one anymore.
Travis McElroy
It's not this.
Griffin McElroy
Well, no. It's the baseball one.
Travis McElroy
You're still built for tough.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, yeah. No, I guess. Yeah. No, for sure. I can run over a bunch of loose boulders and splash through a creek and I won't get anything in my undercarriage.
Travis McElroy
No, that's one of the things I like most about your undercarriage.
Griffin McElroy
And my bed is fucking huge, dude. You could store 12 whole things of lumber or sheetrock or other sort of.
Travis McElroy
You could put two race car beds in his bed.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's true.
Justin McElroy
Hey guys. Good news, bad news, just news. Some news. Any news that isn't bad news is good news. How is that if it's not bad news?
Griffin McElroy
If it's not about my pal Mitch, I don't want to fucking hear about it.
Travis McElroy
Oh, great.
Justin McElroy
Sorry.
Travis McElroy
What bad news?
Griffin McElroy
If it ain't about my pal Mitch, I don't want to hear about it. I've been on tenter hooks.
Justin McElroy
Oh, yeah?
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Griff, I will say this. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you about Mitch. The jury. The jury is still out on that one. We haven't gotten any new leads there. But what I can tell you is that Daylight savings time has just been voted by the U.S. house of Representatives to be a permanent thing in a 308117 vote. 308 to 117.
Travis McElroy
Finally getting to the most important issues of the day.
Griffin McElroy
I'd love to meet those 117 goddamn vampires who love the moon's embrace night monsters.
Justin McElroy
This is. So.
Theme Song Singer
This is.
Justin McElroy
We get. We got a lot of responses across the political spectrum. Gus Billarakis from Florida says that Americans are ready affiliation.
Theme Song Singer
Gus
Justin McElroy
said Americans are ready to ditch the switch, saying that changing the clock twice a year creates unnecessary disruption. I agree with you, Gus.
Griffin McElroy
Good. Gus.
Justin McElroy
In my home state of Florida, where tourism is a cornerstone of our economy, having more predictable daylight hours is a practical improvement that benefits workers, businesses and visitors alike. So there we go. Extra magic hours.
Travis McElroy
Government mandated. Listen. We politicians pride ourselves on listening to people that have been saying shit for the last 40 plus years about how we don't like daylight savings time. And if it tells you anything about the backlog of stuff we have to get to, yeah, we went ahead and took care of that one.
Griffin McElroy
This is like a 1985 thing. This is. We've been. We've been cooking. I know the wheels turn slow, but we've been cooking on this one for 41 long years. We have to get it done.
Justin McElroy
This is the man now. Mary.
Travis McElroy
Mary.
Justin McElroy
Gay Scanlon's against it. She says millions of Americans will wake up during the winter months from Pennsylvania. I hear you. In complete darkness with the sun not rising until long after people get up and travel to school or work and have to go about their days.
Theme Song Singer
Thanks.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, that's right. Both of these times are bad.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Wait a minute.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, wait a minute. Can we stop the diffs? What about this? How about we all stop working?
Griffin McElroy
That's a cool one. I like that.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Now Jim McGovern takes the Travis approach. He did support the bill, but didn't know why they were talking about.
Griffin McElroy
Awesome.
Justin McElroy
Jim said, you know, for folks getting crushed by rent, groceries, utility bills, and healthcare costs, is this really the best majority can do? Is this really the most pressing issue before the American people at this moment?
Griffin McElroy
Hey, listen. Hey, listen. You guys have done like four things in the last, like 12 years. You need to fucking aim low and really kind of work up some momentum. I think. You can't just hop back into it and fix all the shit in one go. Y' all need a softball. It's bad to change the clocks.
Travis McElroy
I guarantee you that. This has been sitting in a drawer that's like, hey, when we have had just what can only be described as a record book length of losses, we're gonna pull this one out and just slam dunk it.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And then everyone will be like, oh, the government's good again. Just you watch.
Justin McElroy
They already got rid of the penny. They'll get rid of the nickel. Just anything.
Travis McElroy
Is this what you guys want?
Griffin McElroy
Do you guys.
Brenda
No.
Travis McElroy
Here's a list of things we want. No, listen, we heard you. Daylight savings time in the penny. Done. No, guys, don't you think it sucks?
Justin McElroy
If we want another easy win, let's get back to normalizing dollar coins. If we got rid of the penny, can I please get a pocket full of treasure, please? Can I please lay some gold?
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Can I please lay some, like, doubloons on a counter and get a chocolate bar and a newspaper, please, please.
Griffin McElroy
Make them big and uneven.
Justin McElroy
They're big and chunky.
Griffin McElroy
I want uneven currency that each has bumps and lumps.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, it's like the pirate things where you get the gold coins, but it's not, like, an even thing. There's, like, chunks out of the side.
Griffin McElroy
Chunks.
Travis McElroy
That feels good.
Griffin McElroy
That feels cool. Our coins suck, dude.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. We want pieces of eight.
Travis McElroy
Yes, we do.
Justin McElroy
That's what we want.
Travis McElroy
We deeply want that and more. Shopkeepers with parrots that acknowledge that we're using pieces of eight would be incredible. That's not gonna be mandatory in the law, but encouraged.
Justin McElroy
I'm glad for this. I think. I think it's the right step for the. I don't know.
Griffin McElroy
Summer's forever, Justin. They made summer forever.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I guess what they're saying.
Griffin McElroy
Pretty good job. Summertime forever, they said, gang, we know it's fucking tough out there, and we know we're to blame for it, but we can't do anything about that. But now it's summertime forever, guys.
Justin McElroy
Summer. Endless summer.
Travis McElroy
It did.
Justin McElroy
Moondock, anybody?
Travis McElroy
My friend Paul, who is British, we were recently. It blew my mind. I only realized, like, within the last calendar year that daylight savings time is an American only thing. That, like, the time difference has always been five hours. And then suddenly the time difference between me and my British friend Paul was six hours. And I was so confused until I realized, like, oh, Americans are like. We have control over time.
Griffin McElroy
We are time kings, all of us. And now we've decided to fix it. And I'm just. I'm gonna open up the vents on my back, and I'm gonna blast the seasonal affective disorder out. This news is hot off the presses to me. I learned about it seconds before we started recording, and it's like, oh, there's a disorder. I don't have it. The government fixed one of my disorders. They can.
Justin McElroy
The government healed you.
Griffin McElroy
The government healed me. That's the sad fucking pulsing out of my vents.
Justin McElroy
You've made Griffin too powerful. Now you can't put him back in the bottle.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, now he's seasonally effective with an
Griffin McElroy
E. Yeah, I'm ordered my effectiveness in two of the four. Half the seasons of the year are so ordered.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, he's got SEO.
Griffin McElroy
Now I'm gonna take my light therapy lamp. I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna put it in the toilet.
Justin McElroy
Well, that's not gonna be safe.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. How big is your toilet? Or how little is the lamp?
Griffin McElroy
Well, I got a special one. That extra big hole.
Justin McElroy
Didn't I get your toilet? How big is your toilet? How little is your lamp? How little is your lamp? Guys don't remember that from the 80s. How big is your toilet? How little is your lamp?
Griffin McElroy
I don't.
Justin McElroy
I don't remember that. That was a big dance hall thing
Griffin McElroy
when I was growing up.
Travis McElroy
Oh, I shouldn't. I didn't go to dance hall.
Justin McElroy
When the sound boy.
Griffin McElroy
When the sound boy
Justin McElroy
we would put that one on, the soundboard would say, turn it down. And I would say.
Travis McElroy
The soundboard would get mad at me because I would always be cranking it up.
Griffin McElroy
Who's a soundboy?
Travis McElroy
Why are you putting it on? Were you a DJ in the 80s?
Justin McElroy
I learned about the soundboy from Wyclef Jean, and it's who we get mad at in dancehall culture when it's too loud. The guy who's, like, running it, and you're like. He's like, I can't take it any higher. You know what I mean? Like, I can't run. I can't take the speakers any higher. You're gonna explode them with how hard you're party rocking. So that's like. If you're mad at the soundboards because you're going, this is the. What I understand from Wyclef, contextually, is that if you're mad at the soundboards because you are, you know, you murdered a sound. Like when on Pharaoh Plate when Whitney Houston sang Wyclef Murder the soundboard. The implication is that Wyclef goes so hard that the soundboy was killed.
Griffin McElroy
Is Paul. Ours Is Paul, our sound boy.
Justin McElroy
I would never.
Theme Song Singer
Hmm.
Griffin McElroy
I've never heard your indignation melt away to solemn consideration before. That was cool. I wish we had Video of this one. So I could have seen what that looked like, but it sounded great.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. I guess the realization overtake.
Griffin McElroy
Wait a minute.
Justin McElroy
The closest parallel we have to this relationship is before live shows, we have a sound check. And that experience is always very interesting because it's us judging how much we want to hear ourselves and each other.
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Justin McElroy
And each other even less. And how much we think we'll be able to do that when there's a bunch of people in the audience and kind of imagining what that is like. And then we constantly enter into this thing. We're like, we could do like more monitor. Right. Like 10% or 20%.
Travis McElroy
Right.
Justin McElroy
And then you kind of wait because they don't say, yeah, I did it. So you just kind of always.
Griffin McElroy
I'm always thinking they're trying to trick
Justin McElroy
me and trying to check me saying, like, oh, sounds way better.
Griffin McElroy
Guys, they didn't fucking touch the board yet.
Travis McElroy
That's the sound boy.
Justin McElroy
So that's. I'm not gonna say that either, because.
Travis McElroy
No, they're professionals. They're sound men and women out there.
Griffin McElroy
Bring Wyclef in to the studio to help us identify some of these guys.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. And as a mediary, if anyone's gonna murder him, let it be Wyclef.
Justin McElroy
This is an advice show. I teach summer school, which is a half day program through the district I'm with. As soon as I get home, I like to change out my work clothes and into something more comfortable, such as pajamas. I also have a broken dishwasher. The maintenance man in my apartment is actively replacing it, and it is only 5:15 local time. Is it weird that I'm already in pajamas? And would it be weirder if I went to the bedroom and changed into actual pants? That's from Perplexed in pajamas.
Travis McElroy
Hmm.
Griffin McElroy
Can I sit with this for a minute?
Travis McElroy
Yeah, yeah.
Justin McElroy
I'll say this. Regionally we don't draw a lot of these lines. You gotta understand, I live in a land where this barrier is very permeable to sweatpants, to sleep pants, to pajama pants. It's a real spectrum down here, and it's very blurry.
Griffin McElroy
It's a college town.
Justin McElroy
A college town, maybe.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. The sleep pants especially. I think sleep pants are such a amorphous place in the, like, clothes area, where it's like. It's got pants right there in the name. Right. If I'm walking around in sleep pants, I'm clearly not nude. Right?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Now there is a kind of pajama.
Griffin McElroy
Sure.
Travis McElroy
Where you would see Them and be like, look at that. Look at that Ebenezer Scrooge looking ass wearing his, you know, long sleeves.
Justin McElroy
If you have, like a bunch of my little ponies on him and stuff. Right. Like, anytime, once there's a print, it's like a print judgment.
Griffin McElroy
Or if you can see it.
Justin McElroy
Okay, okay. This is. He's always on about.
Travis McElroy
Sorry.
Justin McElroy
He's always on about eye traps and shit. Let him clear. Let clear his.
Griffin McElroy
I'm just gonna say if I'm looking, if I'm in there to fix your washer and I can see it. I don't think so.
Travis McElroy
Okay.
Bria Grant
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
It's like we're just trying to keep it biblical, right?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Now I will say, I think that if you then go and change into pants, you are admitting an impropriety you're creating. Like, you're saying it was inappropriate because I had to change it. Right?
Griffin McElroy
Yes.
Travis McElroy
Now you have planted a seed in their mind of like, oh, now I think it's weird.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. This is a quantum. You've engaged this thing in a quantum way.
Travis McElroy
Yes.
Griffin McElroy
Where now you've locked it into being. If you had just simply not acknowledged it, then it would be. It could pass by like a specter. But by acknowledging it, now it's real in your mind and their mind. And you. You've. You fucked that. Hopefully you haven't done that yet. They're probably waiting on further instructions from us, I would hope.
Travis McElroy
There's also an amount of presence, I think, that makes this work. Like, leave the room as quickly as possible. Let them work. You should be interacting with them 30 to 60 seconds in the beginning and 30 to 60 seconds at the end. During that time, in the grand scheme of the day, that's not gonna stick in their permanent memory. You're okay. But if you hang out in there, sipping your coffee in your bathrobe and pajamas, you know, 6:30pm yeah. It's gonna jump out at them.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. One crucial detail that they might have left out of this is if the summer school program that they are teaching is dishwasher repair.
Travis McElroy
Oh, sure.
Justin McElroy
And if their work clothes reflect that, that might make for an uncomfortable environment. If they have sort of Principal Waverly,
Griffin McElroy
like, you can't have that happen when they show up to your place.
Travis McElroy
And I know what you have, like,
Justin McElroy
if you dress like the Maytag repairman, you know, day in, day out, hovering over him.
Travis McElroy
Oh, maybe that's your work clothes. Is you're the guy who plays the Maytag repairman in commercials. And then they're like, why Aren't you fixing it? And you're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I am.
Justin McElroy
But what they're not telling you is that they're. What they do at summer school is that they're a nude model in a life drawing class and they get home from work and it's like, should I put on pajama pants?
Travis McElroy
Or when I'm at school, I dress as a dishwasher. It's.
Justin McElroy
I'm doing an art installation.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, it's a very abstract art school.
Justin McElroy
Wait, wait, are you saying that their outfit is an actual washer of harass or the machine?
Griffin McElroy
Okay. And they've done it up cars style.
Nick Roy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
And this is set in the broader cars universe, obviously. We have planes, fire and rescue. And I think if you zoom out a few more levels, maybe a dozen or so, you end up at appliances. And that's. I mean, now we're in. That's actually his brave little toaster in the cars verse. Something to chew on.
Travis McElroy
That might be the missing link that takes it. Cause people are always wondering how humans evolved into cars, which is the only explanation. And I think that brave little toaster that era is where we see the machines taking over.
Griffin McElroy
Well, I mean, Robocop sort of are our keystone there. I think, like you take any. Like Bridges of Madison county is a purely human movie, then you get robocop. Now we're kind of halfway there.
Travis McElroy
I think robocop is too early to be the bridge because that's still a human form robot. Oh, you know what I mean. These aren't cars. These aren't Transformers. Right. They're not cars as people, they're people as cars.
Griffin McElroy
You need a brain computer or something.
Travis McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Is there a movie brain computer in it? Transcendence.
Justin McElroy
I work at the State for the unclaimed Property office. This is a field that I didn't know existed until I was offered an interview. And I didn't really understand until about six months into the job.
Travis McElroy
Long story short, as a boss, you love to hear that.
Justin McElroy
Long story short, I get to return money to folks. The problem is whenever I tell people about it and money that they have, they think I'm trying to scam them. Brothers, I'm not an mlm. I'm trying to steal data. Simply trying to get folks their hard earned money back. How do I convince old friends, contacts and acquaintances when I offer them $5,000 in exchange for their Social Security number? I'm doing so with the purest of intentions. This email might.
Griffin McElroy
I know I had the same thought we may be complicit.
Travis McElroy
I will.
Justin McElroy
Also, if folks just go to this URL, they can find out everything.
Travis McElroy
Question asker. I'm also going to point out you were offered an interview, they reached out to you. You might be complicit in a scam.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, it doesn't seem right. I'm really helping a lot of people. I'm investing their money and somehow they're making more back. And I don't really understand how it all works, but part of it's all legit. How do I convince people I.
Travis McElroy
You know, in the 90s, there's a guy named Matthew Lesko who wore a suit covered in question. Or was it question mark? No, that's the Riddler covered in money signs. I think maybe, maybe it was question mark. Anyways, he was in a bunch of infomercials about how like there's government programs to give you money for stuff and.
Griffin McElroy
I know, I'm so sorry. Matthew Lesko did wear a suit covered in question marks. Okay, so he did kind of chomp the Riddlers. Yeah, the Riddler's flavor a little bit
Travis McElroy
Batman Forever was huge. You know, so he was just trying to get in on that train. But I think that there. That. I don't think people questioned whether that was legit or not because he was so enthusiastic and wore a suit covered in question marks, which in retrospect should have made it seem.
Griffin McElroy
Should have raised a flag.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, for sure.
Griffin McElroy
Well, I say that, Travis. But if Lesko or really anyone wearing a suit, a shiny suit, gemstone colored, covered in question marks and starts screaming at me, screaming, screaming about the free money that the government wants to give me, that's actually pretty far from the usual pitches that I get from scammers and the like. I do think actually I'm gonna ride. I'm gonna ride hard with this guy.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, you should pitch it to them as like, hey, you have a bunch of unclaimed money. Can I keep it?
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Travis McElroy
And once you see now they're like, no, I want it.
Justin McElroy
No, I want it. It's mine.
Travis McElroy
Because you shouldn't be pushing the money on them. That seems like a scam. But trying to withhold it from them. Yeah, now they want it.
Griffin McElroy
You either take this or I'm gonna turn it into a jet ski. And I suck at jet skiing, man.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I'm gonna get.
Griffin McElroy
If you really want that on your conscience.
Travis McElroy
And it'll be a fault, you're fault.
Justin McElroy
And see if you have any unclaimed property once you.
Travis McElroy
I already did, baby. The second I made the question, listen,
Justin McElroy
yeah, I got things in there.
Griffin McElroy
I got a lot of messages from the state of Texas when I left it. And I did just file those away under nice try. It's gotta be fucking Teddy or like one of the set down there that I've shit talk quite a lot and are just trying to, you know, get me on the way out. Haven't heard from them lately. So I am actually now hesitant to Google this in any capacity, because if I find out that I lost a great sum of money, I don't actually need that energy in my life.
Justin McElroy
No, no, no, you didn't lose it. That's the amazing thing. You just have to say, it's me. Here's all my information. I'll wait for my money. It goes against every single impulse spent like decades kindnessly building up around you to protect you from the Internet. You have to have this one crack in your heart where it's like, no. Every once in a while. Maybe they just shouldn't give it back.
Travis McElroy
Hey, listeners, listeners. If you're finding out about this process through this episode of and you have unclaimed money that you learned about through this episode, you are legally required to become a Max Fund subscriber.
Justin McElroy
I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can have your name read on a brush stream. You just have to kick in some of your winnings to us.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, it's a finder's fee kind of deal that needs to go to us. That is. I'm sorry, it's not up to me. It was actually. It was part of the daylight savings time bill. It was just included in there. They squeezed it in at the last moment, so.
Griffin McElroy
I have so much Texas money.
Justin McElroy
I didn't know.
Travis McElroy
Texas is.
Justin McElroy
Damn. Texas.
Griffin McElroy
Listen, Texas, I may have something of an acrimonious relationship with you on sort of a holistic level, but, man, Texas. Texas has got my back on this one. I had no idea, guys. What an episode for me.
Justin McElroy
What a helpful episode. I vented, buddy.
Griffin McElroy
I've vented my disorder. I fucking made bank in a. In the state in which I used to. Can I get this?
Justin McElroy
How do I get this?
Griffin McElroy
You call them up and say. What's stopping anyone from calling them up?
Travis McElroy
What?
Justin McElroy
Well, that's the Social Security number part, isn't it?
Griffin McElroy
Oh, fuck.
Justin McElroy
It's the crime aspect. Yeah.
Travis McElroy
That's where it's illegal.
Griffin McElroy
All right.
Justin McElroy
It's the crime part.
Griffin McElroy
Well, I'm gonna. I mean, I'm in my own personal pan. Money zone right now.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Wow.
Justin McElroy
Congratulations, Griffin. I'm glad. What a big moment for you, personally.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. I'm glad your Texas oil fields are finally paying off. You just left them all down there.
Griffin McElroy
You promised you wouldn't say, I'm sorry, Griffin.
Travis McElroy
You're right. It's olive oil. He's drilling for olive oil. And we gave him such a shit time for it. We're like, that's not how it works. And then he struck olive oil.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. Because if you go deep enough from Texas, the shine from the Tuscan sun does shine down, too.
Travis McElroy
That's true. It's right on the other side there. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
Gotta get through it.
Justin McElroy
Could we take a brief sojourn to the Money Zone? Would that be okay?
Griffin McElroy
I'd love that, Justin.
Justin McElroy
Okay, Griffin, step right this way. Here, hop on my back. I'll carry you.
Travis McElroy
Wait, what about me? Come back. I'll walk.
Theme Song Singer
It's better. It's better with you.
Travis McElroy
What if I don't have a bunch of money squirreled away in unclaimed things? How am I gonna make money, like, online? The same way I would, by claiming I don't know anything.
Griffin McElroy
Damn. I lost my wallet at a Bill Miller's barbecue, like, seven years ago. That's on here.
Travis McElroy
Oh, okay.
Griffin McElroy
Fucking crazy, man.
Travis McElroy
But I'm saying, like, I have, like, services and goods and stuff that I could offer people, but I don't know how to do that and get paid, you know, like, on time and, like, all in one place and, like, with invoices and online payments and how to, like, streamline my workflow and do, like, appointment scheduling. I don't know any of this shit, so I guess I'm shit out of luck.
Justin McElroy
No, Travis, you're not. Because there is a service that has been helping people with your challenges to build incredible websites that look like they were created by people who really knew what they were doing instead of you. It's called Squarespace. I don't know if you've heard about it, but everything.
Travis McElroy
No, this is the first I'm hearing about it.
Justin McElroy
If you want to offer services and get paid, it's all in one place. With your Squarespace website, you can also get paid on time.
Travis McElroy
What? I mentioned that. That's wild.
Justin McElroy
Professional on brand invoices. This is Squarespace. I said that.
Travis McElroy
Travis.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, man. This is the one.
Travis McElroy
How come you guys have never told me about Squarespace before?
Justin McElroy
I'm so sorry, Trav. I keep meaning to mention it to you specifically, but it just hasn't come together.
Travis McElroy
They're terrible. Brothers and people.
Theme Song Singer
Wow.
Justin McElroy
That's.
Travis McElroy
You've been withholding Squarespace from me all this time. And our listeners.
Griffin McElroy
You weren't ready. You weren't ready for it. Our listeners have been ready. And now they should go to squarespace.com mybrother and they should do this because it helps you make a great website and they look beautiful.
Justin McElroy
If they head on over there right now, Griffin, you know, they'll get a free trial. And when they're ready to launch, they can use offer code mybrother to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.
Travis McElroy
Can I do that too?
Griffin McElroy
I guess so.
Brenda
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
I mean, I think.
Griffin McElroy
I guess the money comes straight back to us. Is this a laundering scheme? No. Could be. Hey, speaking of laundering, I love some new clothes that I got from the Bonobos brand. The Bonobos brand I have looked at from afar, coveted lots of my stylish friends. When I see them looking so fly, I do say to them, like, what's the fit? And it's almost always Bonobos because they got all kinds of summertime duds that are linen, light, breathable. Feels good to have it on your body. But also the fit is so nice. I got a new, very, very lightweight button down that I wore to a wedding that I went to like a month ago. And I got some compliments on it. And I didn't sweat. I mean, I did sweat, like, a lot. Cause, you know, I got on the dance floor and I fucking destroyed for like five straight hours. But I was so comfortable the whole time. I got some, like, boardwalk pants, light linen pants that can go from day to night. And I wore them on a boardwalk very recently.
Travis McElroy
Holy shit.
Griffin McElroy
Felt like.
Travis McElroy
Are you the Great Gatsby?
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, this is the Rehoboth beach boardwalk.
Justin McElroy
I would not call it.
Griffin McElroy
I would not call it Great Gatsby.
Justin McElroy
Sort of.
Travis McElroy
It's not Newegg.
Griffin McElroy
It's not.
Nick Roy
Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
So they got everything, man. They got. They really do. They're able to sort of set you up with your entire wardrobe. They got polos, everyday shirts and shorts and everything in between. I really am excited. I got a few pieces of Bonobos clothing, and I've been wearing them hard, and I've gotten compliments. I look great in them. And if you do so yourself. Huh? No, I mean empirically. Like, I got a signed affidavit saying how good I looked in them. I took the shorts off and they tore up the affidavit. They said it was contingent on the pants that I was wearing.
Travis McElroy
Sorry, Griffin.
Griffin McElroy
So put on Bonobos, feel good and get on with your day. Right now, head to bonobos.commybrother and use code mybrother for 25% off your order. Once again, that's B O N O B O S.com mybrother for 25% off. And make sure you use our promo code mybrother so they know we sent you.
Bria Grant
Hi, my name is Bria Grant, and I host Reading Glasses and Reading Smut. And I'm here with Max Fund member of the month, Nick Roy.
Nick Roy
Thank you so much.
Bria Grant
What episode would you recommend to a new listener who's just jumping in for the first time?
Nick Roy
Definitely the one where it's like, let's talk about reading lessons. Because as someone who started listening, what, seven years in, I even. I was like, oh, that's why we say that.
Bria Grant
Oh, my God, Mallory's gonna love that you said that. Because she really was like, we gotta. We gotta tell people more about ourselves. I'm like, we just talk about ourselves every week. What would you say to other people who are considering supporting Maximum Fun shows?
Nick Roy
I would say if you want to keep listening to content that you enjoy and you want to support the creators. Oh, no, I just won't get a Starbucks once a week and I give you guys 10 bucks a month. Sounds good to me.
Bria Grant
I love that. And listen to Nick. Nick's a librarian. He knows what he's talking about.
Griffin McElroy
So support the shows you love, including this one. Check the show notes for a link or go to maximumfun.org join.
Brenda
Hi there. Sorry to interrupt your podcast listening time. I know you're doing the dishes, right? How. That's okay.
Nick Roy
I don't.
Brenda
Don't worry about it. You might not know me, but I'm Brenda, and I'm here to tell you about the podcast I host with my good friend Austin. It's called Secret Histories of Nerd Mysteries, and we cover all kinds of pop culture topics. Like, did you know that there was a real life replica of the Simpsons house in Las Vegas, Nevada? Or that Flint, Michigan was once home to an indoor amusement park themed around the automobile. If those things sound interesting, you should definitely check us out every Tuesday on Maximum Fun or wherever you get podcasts. Goodbye. You can get back to your dishes now.
Theme Song Singer
It's fine.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. All right.
Justin McElroy
I wanna Munch Squad. I want to Munch Squad. Welcome Munch Squad. It is a podcast within a podcast, profiling the latest and greatest in branding. And I have really exciting news for you guys today because the rumors are true. Oh, the rumors are true. Popcorn Chicken is back at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Travis McElroy
Holy shit. I gotta go.
Justin McElroy
KFC has brought back popcorn chicken. First introduced in the early 90s.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Popcorn chicken quickly earned cult status for being an endlessly craveable crispy bite. Before disappearing from menus in 2023.
Travis McElroy
Mysteriously, I had eaten them all. That's on me. I'm so sorry, everyone.
Griffin McElroy
Travis went beast mode. He went Mr. Beast mode. And he slammed all the popcorn chicken in America.
Travis McElroy
Mr.
Justin McElroy
Beast. I'm eating a million nuggets.
Griffin McElroy
Not nuggets, Justin. Popcorn chicken's for people who look at nuggets and they say, too much of a commitment.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I don't want to be too. I want to have eight of those at a time.
Griffin McElroy
I need to be done eating chicken at the most precise amount of chicken consumed. And nuggets leave far too much sort of room for variation.
Justin McElroy
For years, KFC has heard directly from fans clamoring for popcorn chicken's return.
Travis McElroy
So, Travis McRoy, stop calling.
Griffin McElroy
Stop it. Travis.
Justin McElroy
Travis. We read every comment, every dm, Sorry about those. Every online partition signature and the message was impossible to ignore. Said Melissa, I'll fucking kill you if
Griffin McElroy
you don't bring back popcorn chicken.
Travis McElroy
Do you know who I am?
Griffin McElroy
Do you know what I'm capable of?
Justin McElroy
Well, it's funny you should joke about that because I was thinking if Melissa Cash was going to read every single comment on every single petition about KFC Popcorn Chicken, then the least I could do is also do the same thing because I wanted to see what Melissa Cash had been through. Huh?
Theme Song Singer
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
So, yeah. So, like, I want you all to come with me and imagine that your job as Melissa Cash is to chief marketing officer of the KFC brand, not
Griffin McElroy
feels below her station. I feel like there should be interns or someone working on that.
Justin McElroy
You're going to see like you want to get on the net, see, like, what are people saying about kfc? Because I would love to see what I could do to help. So let's first check in on the petition to bring this back. This ravenous petition was signed by 98 individual people.
Griffin McElroy
No, just saying. I thought for sure we were going to get it.
Justin McElroy
Biggest petition is 98 verified signatures and I will now read to you.
Travis McElroy
Get it to 100.
Justin McElroy
So, yeah, I will now read to you every comment on this petition. Popcorn chicken is a KFC staple for me. I've grown up eating KFC and popcorn chicken makes me so happy. I actually squealed seeing it. That's from Nico.
Griffin McElroy
I need it back, please. That's been a long three years for Nico.
Justin McElroy
It sounds Like Nico's had a rough time. I would eat KFC popcorn chicken at least two to three times a month. Much better than nuggets. Bring them back arcane two to three times a month.
Griffin McElroy
Isn't that big enough for them to justify it? You need to be bigger than that.
Travis McElroy
I think a lot of human beings on earth might accidentally eat KFC popcorn chicken two to three times a month
Griffin McElroy
without thinking about it in an indoor public space. The amount of popcorn chicken you're just breathing in. Yeah, it accumulates in the lungs.
Justin McElroy
Bring back popcorn chicken. Those nuggets are absolutely gross. They taste rubbery. Because literally the only reason I've ever eaten or liked KFC, besides their root beer floats. It's not just the same in the famous bowl. It was my favorite. Not so much now. Two more comments on this petition. Hashtag, no more discontinued. That's for muscle. And then the last from Elizabeth says, yup, popcorn chicken. Yup.
Griffin McElroy
Do you know how wasteful it is financially and agriculturally, that these freaks have had to, you know, order a couple dozen famous bowls every time they go just so they can pick through the bones to find the sweet popcorn chicken within? Now they are getting an option that is free of corn kernels and mashed potatoes and gravy and cheese and what have you. What all is in a famous bowl. Now they're just getting it raw dog, as God intended.
Justin McElroy
So then I went over to Reddit to see what people have been talking about in the intervening years, to see how because, like, you're still Melissa Cash, right? You're still trying to fix, fix your brand. Here's one comment about the. This is about the nugs. People are talking about the nugs. They. They don't work in the famous bowl. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Travis McElroy
Huh? I miss a popcorn reference there, top.
Justin McElroy
Yeah, just throw one in. I miss the popcorn chicken. They were so good with honey. But I also miss the green beans
Griffin McElroy
and the grilled chicken breast and one battle after another, huh?
Justin McElroy
Just never stop.
Griffin McElroy
They just never stop. We got fucking daylight savings time. We got popcorn chicken back and you're already. Give us a moment to reconnoiter, to regroup a bit.
Justin McElroy
It's been constant in Australia. It's still been there. So everybody in Australia is like, I can't believe you guys are getting so excited. Why don't you just move to Australia? And then several folks said, I'm not going to move to Australia for popcorn chicken. Which I grant them.
Griffin McElroy
Good point.
Travis McElroy
Not move, but visit.
Justin McElroy
How good was that how good? What made it so good? Well, here's one comment that said, I think the inconsistency was the best part of the popcorn chicken. Sometimes you got big meaty chunks and sometimes you got little crispy slivers of chicken that were just a vehicle for breading. I honestly love getting like five big meaty chunks, 10 medium ish chunks, just a little handful of the little ones to keep things all balanced. That's from life, the opus.
Travis McElroy
It's like life, really.
Justin McElroy
10 big meaty chunks, 10 medium ish chunks, and then just a little half, a little ones to keep things all balanced.
Travis McElroy
Am I asking for so much? Really?
Justin McElroy
This kind of fandom. As we continue. This is Melissa Cash. The next thing she says is as we continue our Kentucky Fried comeback journey.
Griffin McElroy
Awesome.
Justin McElroy
Which had to be inspired by reading these many, many, many, many, many comments from people who say everything about you is trash except for the one thing you don't have anymore. That's gotta be a tough road for Melissa Cash to walk. This menu item return shows our commitment to listening to our most passionate fans by giving them exactly what they're craving. We're nodding to nostalgia as we simultaneously modernize the brand and how it shows up throughout the world. Yeah, I got some popcorn chicken on my porch. I'll be right back.
Griffin McElroy
Do you? Okay.
Travis McElroy
I'm looking right now to order some. Think about it.
Justin McElroy
I'm back.
Travis McElroy
Hi.
Justin McElroy
Hi.
Griffin McElroy
Any sauce?
Justin McElroy
So I don't like sauce, but they do have a lot of Supergirl themed sauces.
Griffin McElroy
Cool.
Justin McElroy
So I requested all those, but I guess they're out because they didn't bring any. That's cheap. I guess I thought I was joking. No, no, no. Here it is. I got Ruthie's Sweet Chili Revenge.
Griffin McElroy
That's a cool name for a sauce. I haven't seen this.
Justin McElroy
It's in the flick.
Griffin McElroy
But that's a cool name for a sauce.
Justin McElroy
Ruthie. Well, they also got Lobos.
Griffin McElroy
What now?
Justin McElroy
Ruthie's Sweet, Sweet Chili Revenge.
Griffin McElroy
That's fucking cool.
Justin McElroy
That's coolest thing KFC's ever done.
Griffin McElroy
I'm gonna start a petition when these sauces are out of commission. Say bring back groovy.
Justin McElroy
Jason Momoa presents Lobo's Wild Ranch. Give me Lobos.
Griffin McElroy
I don't care that the movie came out seven years ago.
Theme Song Singer
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
I want Lobo Ranch, Please send two more.
Griffin McElroy
Give me Jason Momoa's special Lobo Ranch, please.
Justin McElroy
Jason Momoa presents Lobo's Wild Ranch. Is what it says on here.
Nick Roy
Awesome.
Griffin McElroy
I want Jason Momoa to Present me with so many different sauces, it's like he produced it.
Justin McElroy
Boy, these are really damp cookies in the box. Why would they put the cookies in the box? They've been dampened by the chicken.
Travis McElroy
It's all part of it, Justin. That's the inconsistency.
Justin McElroy
I found the popcorn chicken. The good news for 90s kids is that I will remember with 100% accuracy what the nuggets tasted like and I will be able to tell you with 100% certainty whether or not they are the same.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, no, Justin is for sure about to ratatouille out on us, by which I mean have a sort of reverie into his past. Not have a right to control his actions.
Travis McElroy
No, no, no.
Justin McElroy
They're not as good.
Griffin McElroy
Okay.
Justin McElroy
Not the same. Sorry.
Griffin McElroy
Is it possible, and I hate to do this live on air, but is it possible that you are not the same and that the nugget, the chicken, the popcorn chicken is the same, but your capacity to enjoy it, feel joy? Yeah. Do you think that's never been glad to have the camera not be working?
Justin McElroy
I know, man. I definitely would not have planned this whole thing had I known that we would not be employing video today.
Travis McElroy
And I certainly would have ordered this
Justin McElroy
fucking Supergirl drink with Boba in it. You did that so clearly for the vine. That was just the vine.
Griffin McElroy
I'm so sorry.
Justin McElroy
Juice just for the vine. Oh, man, that's really disappointing. They're not as good. That doesn't surprise me. The original popcorn chicken nuggets were hand breaded and these are quite obviously
Griffin McElroy
uniform cubes.
Justin McElroy
They're uniform cubes. There's no big meaty chunks.
Travis McElroy
I mean, I gotta count.
Griffin McElroy
I'll just line em all out on the table and give us a line em out.
Justin McElroy
Okay, so my 6 ounces, I mean, they're just so clearly made in a
Travis McElroy
chicken popcorn chicken factory.
Justin McElroy
I mean, it's a heartbreaker, I can't tell you guys, I'm gonna line them all out here and I'm gonna tell you what we got.
Travis McElroy
Why did this auto select comeback sauce as what I would want with my popcorn chicken? Oh, are you ordering some too? Of course I am, Justin.
Justin McElroy
What a stupid idiot.
Griffin McElroy
He just told you. It sucks. I don't care, okay?
Travis McElroy
It's all I can think about now.
Justin McElroy
Guys, Comeback sauce is real. I saw it when I was ordering two and it is like the admission in a sauce format of. I've never seen a sauce apology. But that is really. I mean, it could only be that, right? Like, yeah, we've been on the ropes for a while.
Griffin McElroy
God, that drink is fucking vulgar. I don't know.
Justin McElroy
It's unpossible.
Griffin McElroy
Did you even get a boba in it?
Justin McElroy
There's no bobas in that. I avoided that boba bite, but I still.
Griffin McElroy
Well, maybe the boba sort of is a sort of catalyst for the flavor. The boba has to be present in order to activate it.
Justin McElroy
This kind of fandom, guys. This kind of fandom doesn't happen by accident. It's the same obsessive energy sports fans bring to nail biter games or reality TV lovers.
Griffin McElroy
Again, you are off your fucking nut, dude.
Justin McElroy
98 fucking signatures? Are you crazy?
Travis McElroy
Justin, if you cancel the football team, you'd get about 98 signatures to bring that football team back. Yeah, I bet.
Justin McElroy
I bet that's right.
Griffin McElroy
The desire for these tiny nuggets equals the fandom of all sports. Of all sports combined.
Justin McElroy
Popcorn chicken has one of the most obsessive fan bases KFC has ever seen. And the brand is meeting that obsession head on by inserting itself into the Internet's favorite reaction, the popcorn gif.
Griffin McElroy
What are you trying. What are you.
Justin McElroy
What are you talking about? Through a new partnership with giphy.
Travis McElroy
What?
Justin McElroy
KFC is rolling out a collection of exclusive popcorn. Popcorn chicken gifts starring the Colonel himself, giving fans a Kentucky fried way to react in the exact moments they're already reaching for a popcorn meme. The collection is now available unto giphy.
Travis McElroy
You know that moment we've all been there when you're reaching for a popcorn meme.
Griffin McElroy
Right.
Travis McElroy
And you're like, yeah, but I don't know what it's gonna be. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
And then, I mean, you're trying to decide between the, like, MJ thriller one.
Justin McElroy
Yeah. Or which popcorn meme. And then you're like, what about the
Griffin McElroy
one where it's like, what about the sponsored chicken?
Justin McElroy
Wouldn't it be fucking crazy, like, truly unhinged if I went with the sponsored KFC you guys give me.
Griffin McElroy
Let's. Let's brainstorm right now. Because I don't want this person to lose their job. Whoever came up with Melissa Cash, Melissa. I don't want anything to happen to Melissa. Because if Melissa's boss listens to this episode, I think that they will receive the context they need to understand that this is a total nothing burger. So if we could come up with, for Melissa, just a few kind of encounters online, social, digital encounters where a GIF of Colonel Sanders eating popcorn chicken would be an appropriate response. My mind immediately jumps to a million inappropriate ones. But is There any way to split the up race?
Travis McElroy
Maybe like one where you recreate the like, oh, I'm settling in. Cause something dramatic's about to happen and I've got a popcorn bucket. Except this popcorn chicken bucket. You could do that. I bet that would get some use.
Griffin McElroy
No. Cause if I do that, if like two of my friends are having a fight in the group thread. If two of my friends are having a fight and then I'm like, I know how to defuse this situation. I'll hop in there with the eating popcorn GIF or jif.
Justin McElroy
I go, depending on which way you want to do it.
Griffin McElroy
Depending on which way you want to do it.
Justin McElroy
There's actually no wrong way.
Griffin McElroy
If I put in the one of Colonel Sanders eating popcorn chicken, it may look a lot like one of the other famous popcorn gifs. But my friends immediately are going to be like, what's with the chicken? Is that Colonel Sand? Why did you.
Travis McElroy
That's Colonel Sandwich. A grave way to. I was right. Oh no, I was right. Justin sent me the exact GIF I was describing. I was right.
Justin McElroy
You were exactly right, Travis.
Travis McElroy
It's exactly right.
Justin McElroy
But don't worry, if you get onto the giphy Jiffy service. Giphy's into Jiffy. With giphy Jiffy, you can search up kfc, get their official account, and you can see all of these. They did. Let me count here. Too many.
Travis McElroy
Too many.
Griffin McElroy
I am gonna challenge myself to only communicate with these chips. This is my new sort of semaphore. Like you guys will know when I post like Colonel laughing and then eating a chicken, you will know, like, I enjoyed what you said. But this more sort of solemn faced one, this kind of Citizen Kane esque one. You know, I don't like what you said.
Justin McElroy
Each one is more upsetting than the one before it. Honestly, I think they did a great job with the.
Travis McElroy
They should make one of Brenda Fricker feeding the birds in Central park. But instead of scattering bird seed as popcorn chicken.
Griffin McElroy
That's cool.
Travis McElroy
And like throwing the popcorn chicken onto the wet bandits, the sticky bandits, at that point. Yeah, I need to finish. Then a bunch of people, 98 people attack them.
Justin McElroy
I forgot to. I forgot to do this whole fucking lead in this kind of fandom doesn't happen by accident. It's the same obsessive energy sports fans bring to nail biter games or reality TV lovers have for can't look away plot twists. Turns out the biggest moments in pop culture and biggest cravings have one thing in common. They both start with popcorn kfc. Is just bringing chicken to the party.
Travis McElroy
Huh? That is why.
Justin McElroy
That's the whole fucking long walk. Is that like popcorn is the whole thing. From sports finals taking place on the world stage to summer's juiciest reality TV moments. KFC is making a fucking thing. Dude.
Griffin McElroy
You can't see, like, whether it's the disappearance of Mitch McConnell, the whole thing with the reflecting pool, whether it's Pizza Rat, maybe it's Balloon boy, maybe it's Chewbacca.
Justin McElroy
Mom, Rhett's back in the West End, gets in kfc. KFC is making sure the popcorn chicken is back just in time. It's not for the summer moments that make you say, grab the popcorn. Because if you're gonna watch the drama unfold, you might as well be snacking on the main character. Fuck. What?
Travis McElroy
What? Wait. Hold on.
Griffin McElroy
Wait.
Justin McElroy
I gotta start reading these to the end. Jesus.
Travis McElroy
If. You might as well be snacking on the main character. Guys. Check your wording.
Justin McElroy
Guys. You gotta.
Griffin McElroy
Maybe this is a thing. Hold on. Snacking on the main character. No.
Justin McElroy
Snacking on the main. Big Dick Energy. Sliving.
Griffin McElroy
Smacking on this. Smacking on the six seven Fortnite Kid.
Justin McElroy
Those giphy Jiffys are out now for free.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. Treat yourself.
Justin McElroy
Treat yourself. It is wild. The unforced error of like. It hasn't been an era. Like these were out three years ago. People remember what they taste like. This isn't that they don't taste like this.
Travis McElroy
They did a bad job.
Justin McElroy
They did a. People are gonna be really mad about it. I feel really sad for them. Damn. Here's a question for you all. Salient. Do the time of year. My boyfriend and I have neighbors with a peach tree. I really wanted some and I thought I'd wait until I saw them picking some to ask since we've never really spoken. But nobody ever picked them. Now a bunch of overripe peaches have fallen onto the grass between our houses, attracting flies. We noticed too late and a big old bunch of flies snuck into our house through the garage.
Travis McElroy
No.
Justin McElroy
Wow. This really broke bad for you, huh? This is really a journey from wanting some free peaches to having an infestation.
Griffin McElroy
You did the right thing and were punished for it. This almost feels like we would have told you not to touch the peaches. But now we know that that was a mistake also.
Justin McElroy
Thanks in advance. A not so peachy predicament in Alabama.
Travis McElroy
What do we do? What can we do next summer to prevent this as the rest? What can we do?
Griffin McElroy
Thank you. The question.
Justin McElroy
I will say that like the mayor, the Smurls have a peach tree in their backyard. And their main thing every year seems to be, how can we unload all these damn peaches?
Brenda
Sure.
Justin McElroy
I think your neighbors might be stoked if you're like, hey, we're peach fans. And whenever, like, you want a little harvest help, we're right here.
Travis McElroy
And I don't want to be that guy, but it's over your fence. It's in your property. Those are your peaches.
Griffin McElroy
I don't. Does it say. No, it says between our houses.
Travis McElroy
What if they fell into your yard?
Justin McElroy
Yeah, I mean, that's like, if it's growing into. I mean, if you build a little
Griffin McElroy
Hot Wheels track going from the tree into your yard, and the peaches just happen to roll down it into your yard into your mouth, into your mouth that you've got at the bottom of the tracks. There's only so much you can do about that. Blame Isaac Newton on that for that one.
Justin McElroy
Can you guys imagine wanting to eat fruit?
Griffin McElroy
I like a fruit sometimes. Very rarely. Sometimes I want sweet, wet. And that's the combination that typically I get one way or the other. A lot of the times I want sweet and bread. Those two kind of like food ideas combined.
Justin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
There's a certain amount of psychological proud of my self fulfillment I get from eating a banana. Specifically a banana. Cause they're, like, good for, like, sore muscles and stuff. And I know, like, eating a banana is really investing in my future in a way that I'm like, I'm proud of you, future. Travis is proud of you.
Griffin McElroy
I tell you guys. I tell you, gang, I've been really into a cherry lately.
Travis McElroy
Too much work?
Griffin McElroy
Well, no, I like the work. It's like the crab legs of fruit because you're like, having to get the bones out. And I do like that. It's just a quality control gang. This fruit, we need different names. This needs to be. We need to break up Big Cherry into several smaller categories.
Travis McElroy
Your meaty chunks, your kind of middle chunks, and then the ones that are just breading.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah, I don't think that's too much to ask. I want to know if they're going to be the tartest things I've ever tasted or the sweet, juicy things that I crave.
Justin McElroy
Any consistency there would be great.
Griffin McElroy
Any consistency would be great. Call them different things, please.
Justin McElroy
I don't think you want to complain about the flies because that's just part of the circle. You can't complain about the circle.
Travis McElroy
You know what I mean?
Justin McElroy
That's part of the circle, that's part of the.
Griffin McElroy
They're part of the circle.
Justin McElroy
Think about, are you letting bears in to eat the peaches? Because you are not letting. If you're not letting bears in to eat the peaches, then you broke the circle.
Travis McElroy
You're not bringing bears in.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. And maybe these guys are frog ranchers. They need the flies.
Travis McElroy
Oh, shit. Or fly ranchers, you know, they harvest the flies and they sell the flies to fly collectors or to frogs. Maybe there's a whole frog economy going where they're selling them to frogs in exchange for peach seeds.
Griffin McElroy
That's cool. That's cool. That's more of a triangle of life.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, I appreciate that. It's a pyramid scheme. I think that the frogs are set up. Cause they're bringing the flies in to eat the peaches.
Griffin McElroy
It wouldn't be as rhythmically kind of satisfying, I think. But a triangle of life, I do think to take some of the abstraction out of that would really help me with the concept a lot.
Travis McElroy
It does kind of seem. The circle seems like it was set up by the lions to explain why they're eating the zebras. That they ostensibly also rule. Yeah. You know, it's like, I'm your king, but I do need to eat you. It's part of the circle of life.
Griffin McElroy
It's very lopsided.
Travis McElroy
We don't eat you.
Griffin McElroy
It's a really lopsided circle where, like, most of the circle is the gazelles and zebras being eaten. And at the very tip, the very tip of the circle, one lion goes down and becomes, I guess, more grass.
Travis McElroy
Yeah. You gotta understand, here's what happens. We, the lions eat you, right?
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
And then we shit you out. And then grass grows and you eat the grass. And then we eat you again. It's all balance. And the zebra's like, wait. We shit too. We shit out and the grass comes from our side.
Griffin McElroy
Ours is different. Ours is better because you're in it. It's not your fault. But you make better shit than we do, than anything.
Justin McElroy
I don't know anything else.
Travis McElroy
I don't have to tell you, man.
Griffin McElroy
Your nutrients are like, insane, dog. Really?
Travis McElroy
Cause all you eat is meat. And I see how hard you're straining.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. It's harder to make good. Yeah. Thank you. You're right. It's harder to make good stuff.
Travis McElroy
You're welcome.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
You see how hard I'm working out here making a shit? I'd love to have some fiber. Are you kidding me?
Griffin McElroy
I hate turning you guys into shit. It sucks.
Travis McElroy
And I also eat a lot of cheese. That's not part of it. But it's just my picadillo. I love cheese.
Justin McElroy
I'm just saying, like, I didn't really clock it when I was ordering this, but this meal with the popcorn chicken.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Includes six ounces of popcorn chicken. And it's the. This is the. The popcorn chicken big box. The popcorn chicken big box has 6 ounces of popcorn chicken. I've just noticed in here, there's two chicken tenders. What has gone on in your day? What has gone on in your day? Halfway through eating your popcorn chicken, you're like, fuck, I gotta switch up the side.
Nick Roy
Yeah.
Travis McElroy
Now for the movie, I gotta change
Justin McElroy
up this form factor. What an admission of guilt that is, Right? If they're like, we have a second consolation chicken safety net, just in case you like these, right? They're underneath it.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah.
Justin McElroy
Lift it up. They're in here.
Travis McElroy
Look. These are the structural ones.
Justin McElroy
These are load bearing. These are load bearing tenders.
Griffin McElroy
It's like how I'll order french fries at a pizza restaurant I've never ordered from before in case the kids hate the pizza. I know, my friend french fries is gonna be in there for them.
Travis McElroy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin McElroy
And there's two choc chunk cookies. Is that a double chunk chocolate cookie? Damn.
Griffin McElroy
Damn, dude.
Justin McElroy
Damn.
Travis McElroy
Damn, damn, damn, damn.
Justin McElroy
I hate Boba. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast called My Brother, My Brother Me. I hope you've enjoyed yourself. Hope you learned. I hope you grew. I hope you don't get the KFC popcorn chicken, because it's not gonna hold up too late. Trav. Sorry, Trav. Yeah, let me know what you think,
Travis McElroy
though, when it arrives.
Justin McElroy
But no, no, I will.
Travis McElroy
No, I will. I said I will.
Justin McElroy
Okay, good.
Griffin McElroy
You know what else you can get right now? Not just bad popcorn chicken. You can get good book, which is the Adventure Zone story and song. It's out now, gang. Our final graphic novel adaptation of the Adventure Zone balance saga. You can get it right now at bookstores or@theadventurezonecomic.com I'm so proud. I'm so proud of this book. It's so surreal. If you read it, send us message. Send us blue skies or Instagrams or something where we actually exist. Because it's been really lovely, kind of following people along as they read it. I'm so proud of this book. Please, please get yourself a copy.
Travis McElroy
If you also, it's a big book, so, like, pages for your buck. It's a good ratio. Yeah.
Griffin McElroy
You're getting a great ratio.
Travis McElroy
And thanks to everybody who came out to see us in Boston. That was great. And if you enjoy seeing us, we haven't done it. We haven't done it yet. But they don't know that.
Justin McElroy
I know, but like, it just really seems like tempting fate to say it went great. I mean, I don't know.
Travis McElroy
But the transition is. If you like seeing things live, you could also see the Besties live on Broadway October 9th at the Town hall in NYC. Tickets on sale now. Bit ly Besties on Broadway.
Griffin McElroy
Hey, we got some merch over in the McElroy merch store@mcelroymerch.com if you're a super McCoy Brothers fan, like watching us goofballs play video games, why not get yourself a magnet frame of the design?
Travis McElroy
Why not? Coward.
Griffin McElroy
Why not? You've earned it.
Travis McElroy
Coward. Also, we did have to reschedule the graphic novel Clubhouse. So that's going to be this Tuesday instead. So make sure hop over to the McElroy family YouTube channel noon p.m. eastern on Tuesday and check it out.
Griffin McElroy
I mean, I have. There's no video. I have.
Travis McElroy
Guys, you just make a big loud clunk.
Griffin McElroy
I have huge. I have two big Faberge eggs.
Justin McElroy
Oh, dude, don't do it.
Griffin McElroy
No, I've got two big ones. They're covered in Swarovski crystals.
Travis McElroy
Well, so you can throw one and save the other one. Or are you going to throw them both? Or what are you thinking?
Griffin McElroy
Well, I've got the big unit here and I was thinking I could kind of pitch one up into the air and then the big unit could throw his egg into the other one midair and they would just collide sort of in mid air.
Travis McElroy
I think it's a great call. It is a shame he lost his voice right before today.
Griffin McElroy
Yeah. You doing okay? Big un. Duh. All right. I don't fucking know.
Travis McElroy
That sound like the mummy. Are you sure that's Randy Johnson?
Griffin McElroy
I don't remember which one the big unit is.
Travis McElroy
That might be the mummy. Okay, throw them.
Griffin McElroy
Here we go. Whoa. Holy shit.
Brenda
Whoa.
Griffin McElroy
It's still going.
Justin McElroy
Let's get down to my brother.
Theme Song Singer
My brother. Why is just.
Travis McElroy
I'm your middle is rather Travis now gray.
Justin McElroy
It's still going. Just remember, brother. My brother may kiss your dad. Scrug lips.
Theme Song Singer
With you it's better My life, it's better it's better with you. Is it true? It's better it's better with you My life, It's better with you
Justin McElroy
Maximum fun
Griffin McElroy
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Date: July 20, 2026
Hosts: Justin McElroy, Travis McElroy, Griffin McElroy
This episode of "My Brother, My Brother and Me" (MBMBaM) centers around “seasonal effectiveness”—starting with a lively debate about the US government’s decision to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, and spiraling through classic McElroy tangents on coins, pajamas, unclaimed money, the metaphysics of fruit and flies, and a passionate “Munch Squad” segment covering the return of KFC’s popcorn chicken. The brothers’ signature blend of sibling goofs, socio-political riffing, improvised world-building, and food culture critique makes this a prime example of their “advice show for the Majin era.”
True to MBMBaM tradition, the vibe is high-energy, goof-forward, and affectionate with frequent segues into absurd hypotheticals, nostalgic references, and played-up sibling dynamics. The advice, while rarely earnest, underscores the brothers’ philosophy: laugh through the weirdness of daily life, and don’t be afraid to go off on a tangent for the sake of a good bit.
“Seasonably Effective” explores changes in time, money, and fried chicken with all the improvisational warmth and pop culture specificity that makes MBMBaM a cult favorite. With highlights such as the permanent daylight saving riff, a deeply unexpected journey into pajama etiquette, a heartfelt takedown of nostalgia-based marketing, and the deranged corporate language behind KFC’s “popcorn chicken as the main character,” this episode both entertains and encapsulates the show’s enduring appeal.