Certified Actor Boy: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode (RE-RELEASE)

Summary

My Momma Told Me – "Certified Actor Boy: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode (RE-RELEASE)"

Podcast: My Momma Told Me
Hosts: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Original Release Date: March 19, 2026
Theme: Dissecting Black conspiracy theories—humorous, serious, sometimes problematic, always insightful.

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Overview

In this mini episode, comedians Langston Kerman and David Gborie explore a listener-submitted conspiracy theory: "Drake is not a real rapper, but a method actor engaged in the longest performance art piece in history." They dig into the implications of this idea, discuss Drake's artistry (or perceived lack thereof), and ruminate on the differences between performing for respect vs. love. The conversation also veers into Joe Budden's critique of Drake, generational shifts in hip-hop, and philosophical takes on art, legacy, and celebrity—delivered in their trademark playful and irreverent banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Listener Email: Drake as "Certified Actor Boy"

[06:34–10:09]

• Email from Mel: Asserts Drake is not a rapper, but a method actor performing the longest-running installation. Claims recent controversy with Joe Budden as additional "evidence."
• Langston and David react with amusement and incredulity, noting the boldness and creativity of the theory.
  • Notable Quote:
    Langston [07:14]: "Sounds like it's two niggas in the universe that you listen to that are more right than you are."

The Joe Budden–Drake Controversy

[10:09–14:45]

• Drake's Response to Criticism: The hosts break down Drake’s atypically emotional reaction to Joe Budden’s critique, noting how criticism, especially regarding lifestyle, seems to hit different for Drake.

• Joe Budden’s Influence: Both recognize Budden as an early influence and longtime supporter of Drake—making the recent critique sting even more.

  • Notable Quotes: Langston [13:50]: "Joe Budden has been kind of a fan of Drake for a long time... Even when he does [criticize], it's him being like, nigga, I hope he can keep the magic going because he's so fucking unbeatable at this game." Cool Guy Jokes [13:28]: "I think Drake, I think it just truly hurt his feeling is what I think."

Is Drake a "Performance Artist" or Just a Pop Star?

[10:09–16:53]

• Both hosts largely reject the idea that Drake is engaging in high-concept performance art a la Andy Kaufman or Childish Gambino.

• They argue that Drake’s persona and music are authentic to who he is—a hitmaker making widely palatable music, not some avant-garde project.

• Discussion on how fans and critics sometimes project deeper intent onto straightforward commercial artists.

  • Notable Quotes: Langston [10:17]: "There's the suggestion of Drake being not in fact a real artist and more just a manufacturer of music as a performance art piece. And I don't know that I think of Drake as in any way that kind of artist." Cool Guy Jokes [15:36]: "Drake's just a nigga trying to get ladies to pop their pussy... and I think that's okay."

The Burden of Fame and Artistic Satisfaction

[19:15–21:01]

• The hosts compare music and standup: as artists become more successful and fans increasingly show unconditional love, the thrill of "earning" an audience disappears.

• Eddie Murphy reference: Murphy quit standup at 27 because he could no longer find challenge or satisfaction when adulation was guaranteed—draws parallel to Drake’s current phase.

  • Notable Quotes: Langston [19:49]: "He went out on stage one night and the screams were so loud... the laughs were so easy at every fucking joke that he was like, I can't keep doing this. This isn't an art form anymore." Cool Guy Jokes [21:01]: "Not being famous is kind of what keeps me able."

Generational Shifts & Debates Around “Greatest of All Time”

[27:14–29:43]

• Prediction: In 10 years, Drake will be widely argued as the "greatest of all time"—even as the current generation debates legacy.

• They reflect on how each generation centers its own icons, drawing humorous parallels to how young fans might see "old school" rappers.

• Art Evolves Across Generations: The hosts argue that virtually all art forms get technically stronger over time—even if emotional resonance remains subjective.

  • Notable Quotes: Langston [27:14]: "I think in 10 years there are going to be arguments of Drake being the greatest of all time. And I don't think it's going to be treated with as much pushback as it probably gets right this second." Cool Guy Jokes [28:09]: "The youth already are."

On Old Art, Music, and Standup’s Timeliness

[29:32–32:42]

• They humorously debate their lack of connection to "classic" works (like Citizen Kane), agreeing that taste is era-dependent, especially in comedy.

• David makes a case for the enduring power of older music, like symphony orchestras.

  • Notable Quotes: Langston [29:23]: "I don't have any appreciation for [Citizen Kane]... it was too fucking boring for me to enjoy." Cool Guy Jokes [31:51]: "I went to the symphony... I think it rivals any music that anybody's making now."

Verdict: Drake’s Not an Actor—Just Drake

[32:48–33:30]

• Both conclusively agree that Drake is not pulling an elaborate Andy Kaufman–style ruse.

• He’s simply a pop star doing what comes naturally (and lucratively) to him.

  • Notable Quotes: Langston [26:32]: "He's not Andy Kaufman. This isn't like some, you know, mysterious, like, underlying truth." Cool Guy Jokes [27:10]: "There's space for him, but this is what he does. This is what he's good at."

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Memorable Moments & Lighter Exchanges

• Lil Mamas Shoutout: Early banter about being called "lil mamas" by show fans at live events [03:22–03:51].
• Seafood Pot Pie Story: David’s wild story about using a hotel notepad as a utensil for seafood pot pie—peak "hustle" energy [03:48–05:23].
  • Langston [05:23]: "I was scared you’re gonna be like, So I ate that pie like Yogi Bear. No, that was gonna make me fucking sad."
• Closing Lightness:
  • Their admission of enjoying "sweet commercial music" [33:18–33:30].
  • Playful references to old school rappers and generational divides [28:24–28:32].

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Important Timestamps

| MM:SS | Segment | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 02:44–03:09| Entering the mini episode ("Motherf*ckin mini...") | | 03:22–04:19| Lil Mamas shoutouts and live show stories | | 06:34–10:09| Listener email: "Drake is an actor, not a rapper" | | 10:09–14:45| Drake, Joe Budden, and the "method actor" theory | | 15:02–16:53| What kind of artist is Drake, really? | | 19:15–21:01| Fame, artistic challenge, and the Eddie Murphy story | | 27:14–29:43| How future generations will see Drake | | 29:32–32:42| Debating art, nostalgia, and lasting resonance | | 32:48–33:30| Verdict: Drake, pop stardom, and "art for art's sake"| | 33:42–34:17| Podcast business & farewell |

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Conclusion — Tone & Takeaways

Langston and David, with their signature irreverent, sharp humor, tear into the "Drake-as-method-actor" conspiracy with a mix of playful skepticism and cultural insight. They ultimately land on the view that Drake is simply a hitmaker focused on success—not a high-minded performance artist. Along the way, they riff on fame, generational change, the mechanics of music and standup, and the folly of projecting complexity where there may be none.

If you're seeking a nuanced but hilarious take on hip-hop, fame, and conspiracy culture—complete with oddball stories and barbershop-style back-and-forth—this episode delivers.

Transcript

[Langston Kerman]

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[Mini Episode Announcer]

Motherfucking mini episode. Mini episode. Motherfucking mini episode.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I'll give you the red light spell all through the night. Welcome back, little mamas and gentiles alike, to another episode of My Mama Told

[Langston Kerman]

Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

And we primally worked. We finally. I can talk. And we finally.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm excited.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

And we finally work to prove the theories of you, the listeners, the lil mamas. That's what you're called forever and ever. Now, whether or not you like it. Your lip gloss is popping. Your lip gloss is cool.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm walking up to grown men and identifying you as lil mamas at shows. So yeah, yeah, take it.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I've had a few people identify themselves as little mamas and I appreciate it. It's nice.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, it's really nice. It's pretty dope when people do it.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Speaking of people, I wanna say shout out to. So they came to our Chicago show and then they doubled back and came to see me in Minneapolis, bro. They brought me. They brought me a seafood pot pie. Whoa. With crab and shrimp and the top cheddar bay biscuits.

[Langston Kerman]

Whoa.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That's crazy.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

It was so shout out.

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't even know you could do that.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

It's a new genre. It's a new gen.

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't know seafood pot pie was a thing. First and foremost. I thought it was strictly chicken or beef.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. I didn't know that that was a possibility.

[Langston Kerman]

And then to advance that a step further and make it cheddar bay biscuit crust is. That's nuts. They living in the future.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I think it was the best. I think it was the best plate thing I got, bro. This is embarrassing. I. I got back to the hotel. I didn't even have a. I didn't have a fork.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, no.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Cause it was like 11. So I. This is bad. This is bad. You know how they have the notepad in the hotel sometimes they have a notepad. I pulled all the paper off of it so it was just the cardboard. And I bent the cardboard in half and then I folded it in half the long way. And then I used it to scoop.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, I'll say two things. Number one, I was scared you're gonna be like. So I Ate that pie like Yogi Bear. No, that was gonna make me fucking sad.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

No, that would be upsetting.

[Langston Kerman]

And then as you were describing what you made, it was like, oh, no, he's gonna roll it into, like, a funnel. And then like. Like he's pouring it in like a Pixie stick. And that's.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I have to ask you a serious question. What do you think of me?

[Langston Kerman]

This isn't a reflection of you. It's more just where my imagination goes. You motherfuckers talk.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Okay, okay. Yeah, both those would be so, so bad. No, it was.

[Langston Kerman]

You drink a pot pie like a straw through the back of a fucking post it note board. That's pretty funny.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. Yeah. No, I wouldn't have told you if that would have been what happened.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, no, and I thank you for keeping some things private.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, for sure. No, there's gotta be a level of, you know, my life is my life.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

All right.

[Langston Kerman]

Did we get to this email?

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, we got an email today. I'm very excited about it. It's from Mel. You ready for this?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I'm ready.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

All right. The subject line is, Drake is not a rapper. He is an actor. Already intrigued.

[Langston Kerman]

Very aggressive right from the start.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, already intrigued. All right. Hello, gents. That's a decent address.

[Langston Kerman]

It's classy for sure.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Thanks for reading my last email. Appreciate you both trying to elevate our collective consciousness on time. Even if you both disagreed with my universal truth. You disagreed. Sounds like the truth isn't universal, my man.

[Langston Kerman]

Sounds like it's two niggas in the universe that you listen to that are more right than you are

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Onto the business at hand. I've held this thought for quite some time that Drake is not an actual rapper. He is actually a method actor creating the longest running performance art installation in history. Whoa. I did not have strong evidence of this until a recent kerfuffle he had with a clairvoyant who goes by the name Joe Budden. Dude, Let me just get through the email first.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. Until a recent clerfev with a clairvoyant who goes by the name of. Not sure if you are familiar with his predictions. He had one on DJ Envy.

[Langston Kerman]

You really are struggling hearing that Joe Budden be right. Sometimes you don't even want that for him at all.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Broken Clock is right twice a day. I did not have strong evidence of this. And the sun even shines on a dog's ass. I did not have. No. I don't know why I'm coming so aggressive. I actually really like Joe Budden. I've always been a fan of his music.

[Langston Kerman]

He's an interesting character.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I like sad guy stuff. Well, listen, so here we go. Drake, who normally does not respond to critics, was incensed when Joe Budden gave a negative critique of his latest album, which was objectively, sonically displeasing to most people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Drake's anger was not a result of Drake believing he makes good music and was hurt by those comments. Nay, nay, I say.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh boy. Really makes you regret reading this email, huh?

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Cause now I gotta read this. Nay, nay, I say it was because Joe had dared to parse his lips, lips that have only uttered one hit, Pump it Up, and frankly just blazed at the heavy lifting on that track. I digress. I do not want to get distracted from the point it was that Joe was onto the way Drake makes music. Drake's music is not from the heart. Rather, it is movie storytelling. Very similar to the Fast and Furious movies. Fantastical, featuring characters that are telling stories they did not live. Kind of like an actor. Also, how is it that Drake has never acted in anything since Degrassi? One might say he has been acting this whole time. Whoa. You both are destined to make it as your initial spell. Good luck. Amazing job on the pod. Keep up the great work. G Borie O O D David L. Langston O O K Carmen. Good look.

[Langston Kerman]

Mm. But I think, okay, there's a lot to unpack here.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

There is a lot to unpack here.

[Langston Kerman]

There's the suggestion of Drake being not in fact a real artist and more just a manufacturer of music as a performance art piece. And I don't know that I think of Drake as in any way that kind of artist.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

Even remotely as like. I don't think he's ever been art. Like even kind of underground version of what art could be. Or like high end, thoughtful pieces. He's like, he's the. The art that everybody likes that, that just objective, easy, easily palatable. We all agree this is art. Sort of likes is Drake.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I think so. I think. I think for the most part, Drake is living in his truth. I think the things that he talks about is stuff that is. I don't think there's a lot. Yeah, I mean, obviously sometimes some of the gangster bars type shit is not him, but I think a lot of this shit he says is really what he's doing. You know what I mean? I don't think.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, it's just him fussing at women.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Exactly. That's why I'm like, this is Pretty realistic. Even when you hear him talk about, like, yeah, I've never made up a woman's name in a song. Like, it's just like, I don't. The things he's doing aren't so fantastical. Because if they were fantastical, and this is what I think people relate to, if they were fantastical, they would sound like other rappers who you listen to. And apparently, according to them, have never taken an L or done anything embarrassing. You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

The Nas shit. People are constantly saying Nas didn't live the life that he raps about, whatever. But Drake is like, yeah, I just ate a lady out. And then I decided I didn't want to call her no more. So I'm gonna make a song about that.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, I spent a bunch of money on her and then she still doesn't like me. And I got hurt by that. You know what I mean? So the things that he's speaking to, I don't think are so overblown that they don't feel real.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I do think when I think about some of what is being said too, like, as it relates to the Joe Budden of it all, I think one of the things I remember seeing in this Joe Budden controversy was that it wasn't that Drake was upset that he critiqued the music or the making of the music. Drake says he's mostly upset. And this is more Drake's words than anything. Says that he's upset because Joe Budden was calling out his lifestyle. He didn't like that Joe Budden was pointing out that he's spending all this time with, like, these young rappers and kind of like incorporating their style into their shit. And specifically, he got really upset at Joe Budden saying he needs to stop dating 25 year olds and date women his age so his music could sound more appropriate and also better. Right.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I think also there's a level of like. I think it's all pretty clear that Joe Budden was a major influence on Drake, especially within the beginning. So I think it's that level of, like, et tu, Brutus? Like, of all the people to come at him, you know what I mean? Because Joe Budden seems to be historically kind of more on Drake's side. You know, I was about to say,

[Langston Kerman]

and somebody on Twitter pointed this out and thank God I'm back because I get these specific takes. Somebody pointed out that Joe Button has been kind of a fan of Drake for a long time. Like, he. He rarely says negative critiques of Drake's shit. And even when he does. It's a lot of him being like, nigga, I hope, I hope he can keep the magic going because he's so fucking unbeatable at this game. More than it is him being like, oh, this nigga's whack. We shouldn't be listening. He's like a big fan. So for him to be like, this is whack. It's not. Not coming from, like a genuine disappointment. More than like, I'm just fucking with you to fuck with you shit.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, I think, I think Drake, I think it just truly hurt his feeling is what I think. I think it actually made him sad. And I think that. And to speak to your point earlier. Yeah, man, I don't think he's that type of artist.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I don't think he's concerned with art in that way. Neither are most anybody. But no rapper or not. No rapper, but not the ones that we talk about frequently. Is that. You know what I mean? Drake is. Drake sells hit records.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I think, I think even if they, if, if this argument were more about, like, Childish Gambino, I could see that of him being like, well, you can see him seeing himself as that kind of artist, even if I don't necessarily think that that's what the art is. He sees himself as that guy. And so I could see him choosing music as sort of like this performance arts piece that he then is representing to the world three decades in, whatever the fuck. But Drake's just a nigga trying to get ladies to pop their pussy.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I think so, man. And I think that's okay. I think that. I think that's fine. Like, I don't particularly feel any type of way about, like, you can't be mad at somebody for not doing what you did.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And I.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

You know what I mean? And within Joe Budden, it seems like specifically the lifestyle stuff, it's like, okay, he's not you. I don't know, man. The guy's being himself and it's still working.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And also Joe Budden, okay, you grew up kind of, but you grew up at like 45, bro.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. You're way older than Drake too. You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

Like, you just started behaving properly like a few weeks ago at best. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like we haven't. Joe Budden has remained like a person causing controversy well into his fucking 40s.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

And I think that's what happens. I think that happens a lot with media type personalities is like, when they turn the corner, they kind of start to not give leeway to other people who hadn't. You know what I mean? Drake. Joe Budden's like 10 years older than Drake or something like that. So where was Joe Budden 10 years ago versus where Drake is right now? And it's like, if you were on love and hip hop 10 years ago and that's like not downing it, but it's like, don't act like this guy is so different in his progression.

[Langston Kerman]

Because if I'm a Drake, if I'm a Joe Button fan, I just watch my favorite, one of my favorite rappers become a punchline by joining on with the love and hip hop and all the things that are essentially Drake making a shitty album because he keeps fucking 25 year olds. Whatever. I get your point that it's like, come on, man, you did the same shit. We all went through the same thing. Let us go.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Right? And we were just as disappointed in you because it was like people forget. For Joe Budden to go on love and hip hop for what he was and what he was doing, that was a huge departure from whatever his trajectory was. You know what I'm saying?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Scrappy was lowering himself with love and hip hop.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Joe Budden was spitting on his grave with love and hip hop. It wasn't. You know what I mean?

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Exactly. Cause despite what you may think about the guy, Joe Budden can rap his fucking ass off.

[Langston Kerman]

Everybody thought so. He.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

He really can. I mean, it's like I feel like it's. And that's another thing about the email. I feel like it's almost disrespectful to bringing up Pump it up, the hit that he had when he was like 19 and that the label kind of made for him like Joe. But if we're just talking about rap and having bars, you really can't talk like Jo. But isn't one of those guys.

[Langston Kerman]

He was a defining character, I think for an era of hip hop specifically, like some. The more underground belly of hip hop, that was so good that it reached the fucking surface. Like, I think that's more how people should understand. Joe Budden is like, he was just so fucking crazy for that era that they had to give him something. It wasn't as much that like his personality or his winning look or any of that shit. It was just.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

He could just wrap his fucking ass off.

[Langston Kerman]

He's too good for us to not try a couple singles with him. And yeah, the singles weren't great, but that wasn't his defining shit, I guess is really the Point.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. And that wasn't his lane. And it was. I just like. I. Yeah. I don't like Joe Button erasure either. Like, don't. Don't play him out as Pump it up guys, because none of his fans would put him in that box either. Nobody's like, you know what I mean? I don't. I think. I think it's like, yeah, the only people who are like, oh, the Pump it up guy are people who are trying to disparage him.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. That said, I do really wish Drake would cut it the fuck out with whatever he's doing. Like this.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

There is like era.

[Langston Kerman]

It's a it for me, if I'm being honest.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Do you get the feeling that. And maybe there is. This is. To Joe Budden's point. Sometimes it feels like maybe it's like you maybe. Seems like he's pushing it a little longer than maybe even he wants it to go.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I think that's probably true. I think. I mean, we were just talking about him. I think there's a reason Eddie Murphy quit standup at 27 years old.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what I mean? Like, I think that he could feel it. He's talked about it where, like, he went out on stage one night and the screams were so loud and so crazy then, and the laughs were so easy at every fucking joke that he was like, I can't keep doing this. It's not a. This isn't an art form anymore. It's just me making sounds and people being like, you're the greatest. That's fucking. Why would I keep doing that?

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Wouldn't it be crazy if famous comedians now had that feeling?

[Langston Kerman]

If you're just like, bro, I did it. I'm a chill. I truly think I'd be that guy if it all came down to it.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Oh, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I think I'd walk away more than I would stick around and embarrass myself 100%.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Because the thing I like about it is that it's hard. You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

When it goes too easy, I truly feel nothing.

[Langston Kerman]

No, when it. Those fucking.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Not for nothing, I think I'm a ripper. You know what I mean? I think pretty much you're funny as fuck. I could pretty much hang with anybody, but, like, it's. But it's like not being famous is kind of like what keeps me able. Like, I think that would be hard, is what I'm saying.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Like, truly, those butter. The shift from the butterflies in my stomach that I feel so intensely before I walk on stage. To first joke landing and like being the fucking thing that I knew it was supposed to be is what I live for inside of this art form. And obviously like every joke in between has little like instances of that. But you can never replicate that first moment of walking on stage and like truly earning their trust in a way that if you're a celebrity, you just already got it. That shit's probably dry as fuck.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I think that's why it's like hard for people to progress once they get really big, right? I mean, you know, hopefully we both figure it out. Hopefully we figure out what that feels like one day.

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[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I say all that to say I think Drake, to your point, Drake probably is suffering from a quote quality of that where it's like I'm being, I'm too celebrated as a human being to even be able to imagine art anymore. I am, I am merely a just recipient of love and your adoration.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

And I think that's the difficult thing about this, right is you want their respect, not their love. Once they give you their love, you don't really have to do much else to earn it. You know what I mean? It's like you're gonna always love your kids, you're gonna always love your family. If you, if it's love in that way, you know what I mean, it kind of changes what the relationship is.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

And people have such a history with Drake that they're always going to listen to what he's, you know, there's a lot of things. But all that being said, I don't think he's running some huge grift on us.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I don't think Drake is. He's not Andy Kaufman. This isn't like some, you know, mysterious, like, underlying truth. I think he just realized, frankly, acting does not pay as much as being a world touring artist. And he chose the one that's going to get him more money and more pussy faster.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

And to be fair, he might be. I think he might be a better rapper than he was an actor.

[Langston Kerman]

I think he's a way better rapper than he was an actor. And he was a fine actor. I guess he was a kid, so who the fuck knows? But like in his music videos and shit, he's a pretty good actor. He feels believable and cool when he's doing the shit.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

That said, there's space for him, but this is what he does. This is what he's good at there.

[Langston Kerman]

I think in 10 years, and people are going to be mad at me for saying this. I think in 10 years there are going to be arguments of Drake being the greatest of all time. And. And I don't think it's going to be treated with as much like pushback as it probably gets right this second. Right. That.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Like, oh, yeah, because we're still in it. We're still in even. Even with this last album, we're still in the middle of his Drake era

[Langston Kerman]

and we still see too many of the gods present amongst us, you know what I mean? Like, Andre 3000 could drop. Jay Z still exists. Like Nas got dreads now. Like, everybody's still out.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

They even fucking music.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And everybody's present. And so it's hard to be like, no, Drake's the best. But I think as soon as they get a little too old for us to remember the same way we do now, they're going to be talking about Drake, like, best, greatest of all time.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

The youth already are.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Think about it. If you're 25, you know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

Who else is your favorite since you were a kid?

[Cool Guy Jokes]

That's like Michael Jackson was for us. He was always famous from the time you can remember.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Somebody says, cool, Modi, and you're like, oh, what?

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah.

[Bethenny Frankel]

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[Cool Guy Jokes]

Did you say hat?

[Langston Kerman]

King Cole.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. What is a Rakim like? It doesn't. They don't there's no. And that's how it should be, by the way. I mean, I think that truly, if you are going to enter the music and do it, you should have an appreciation for the older shit, but for fandom, man. That's just how that shit goes, bro.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And I think, you know, there's no art form on this planet that hasn't gotten better over time. Like, I just don't believe in none of that bullshit where they go like, no, the best movie is Citizen Kane. It's not. There are. Jurassic park is better than Citizen Kane. It just is it, doesn't it? Now, if you want to talk about it in terms of like technicalities and all the shit, it. But movies have advanced. They've just changed in the way that they're. They're fucking made. That's true of music.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Do you not think Citizen Sane is great?

[Langston Kerman]

I don't have any appreciation for it. And part of that is me having my own. Like, it was too fucking boring for me to enjoy.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Really?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I just didn't like the shit. I like the old timey vibe of it. I'm. I'm a bigot. I'm an ageist bigot, but I fucking.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Are there any old movies that you think are great? Like, do you think, like, the Godfather is great?

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think that they suck. I just don't think that they move me the way that they are meant to move me the same way. I don't think, if I'm being completely honest, I laugh as hard at priority as I did at fucking peak. Chappelle, do you want to mean. It's not that.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, I'm with that.

[Langston Kerman]

It's not that Prior isn't on the same level as Chappelle. It's just that, like, bro, I've seen too much. I'm too far past what this art used to look like to appreciate what you are doing. The same way I can appreciate the way this motherfucker is moving at his best, not at his latest.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I also, and not to drag this conversation out too long, I also think that Stand up is maybe a lot more timely than most art forms.

[Langston Kerman]

That's right.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

So that becomes the difficulty in it. Like, there's stuff. Some stuff is just of the time. We're never gonna understand how funny Dice Clay was when you hadn't seen anything like that in 86.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And you didn't have any rules in your head about what can and cannot

[Cool Guy Jokes]

be said or even what comedy is or whatever. It was just a dude talking so it's like. And we can't. And just like. And even now, you know what I mean? It's like nobody. To me at least nobody's ever gonna be funnier. If you weren't there, then you don't know how huge elephant in the room was and why. I personally think he's the best of all time. You know what I mean? So it's just like so much of it is attached to time with standup and you have to know social, how society was going at the time and shit like that. So it's like. That's why I think it's different, but that's why. You're right. That's why you're right.

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[Langston Kerman]

I think if we extend it beyond stand up, because I do agree with you, it's more timely than most art forms. But, like, even the ones that are less timely still suffer from the same thing, I. E. Films, I. E. Music, I. E. Even Fucking painting. Do you know what I mean? Like, fucking Leonardo da Vinci can't make cocoa. Like, he just can't.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I don't know about music though, man. I went to the symphony for the first time this year and it's like seeing it in the hall, the concert hall, where the acoustics are what it's supposed to be, and like, hearing it all, like hearing the sound of ten violins at once and shit like that, I think it's as. I think it rivals any music that anybody's making now.

[Langston Kerman]

Wow.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

I really do feel that way, like the idea of being moved or whatever.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, our next guest, Sexyy Red, is gonna have a few things to say about that. She is not gonna care for that take one bit. She makes the best music, you know. Listen, there was doodoo feces thrown all over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, and it stunk so bad. And it stunk.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

So I just wanted to do that because I feel like we got further under the pretentious art conversation than we needed.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. But I do think it's important as it relates to this conspiracy theory. I think largely, it seems like you and I agree that while Drake is a pretty phenomenal artist, he ain't a art for art's sake ass dude and probably does not have the ability or foresight to. To be able to pull this little number off.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah. And that's okay because neither am I, nor do I. So I don't really feel no way about it, you know?

[Langston Kerman]

No, I'm not seeking out that artist at all. And so I'm grateful that Drake exists. I like, yeah, to give me just that sweet commercial music I've been craving my whole life.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Yeah, it tastes good.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Great. I think we did it. I think that covers that. You want to tell the people where they can find you and what cool shit you have going on.

[Cool Guy Jokes]

Cool guy jokes 87 on Instagram.

[Langston Kerman]

And if you want to follow me and complain to me personally, you can send it all. You can follow me at Langston Kerman. And then if you want to send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories. If you want to tell us that you have definitive proof of Drake's intent to scam us through art, send it all to mymamapodgmail.com we would love to hear from you. Like subscribe. Do the don't make us ask you again. Bye.

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