Fish Dreams and Nightmares (with Mandal)

Summary

My Momma Told Me
Episode: "Fish Dreams and Nightmares" (with Mandel)
Release Date: June 30, 2026
Host: Langston Kerman & David Gborie | Guest: Mandel

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Episode Overview

In this lively and sharply comedic episode of "My Momma Told Me," hosts Langston Kerman and David Gborie welcome recurring guest Mandel for a freewheeling conversation that bounces between behind-the-scenes podcast drama, the mythos of fish dreams as predictors of pregnancy in Black folklore, wild tangents on hairlines, and the complex interconnectedness of dreams and reality. Featuring quick wit, authentic riffing, and a signature irreverent dive into a classic Black conspiracy theory, the episode blends hilarity with cultural insight and good-natured roasting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Big Fun Network Signing & Comedian Banter

• [00:49–04:44]
  • Mandel congratulates the hosts on joining the Big Fun Network, promising them "name in lights" and stars on Hollywood Boulevard.
  • Jokes revolve around showbiz dreams, chains as promotional swag, and the nature of 'making it' in entertainment.
  • Mandel riffs: “We gonna rock out and do some real good business together… y’all are signed to Big Fun. I just wanna put that on record.” [01:23]
  • Classic “two names, one star” bit—riffing on celebrity partnerships and potential humiliation rituals.
  • The group parodies the complicated branding and imagined future deals for the podcast, including tongue-in-cheek promises of Audible, Spotify, and even Yahoo podcast deals.

    "I got a hundred thousand dollar Audible deal lined up for you." – Mandel [19:50]

  • Playful talk on how proximity to Langston’s career leads to more opportunities (and sometimes more rejection).

2. Names, Identity & Twitter Handles

• [06:33–09:39]
  • Joking about guests’ mangling of the hosts' names and the difficulty in pronouncing “Gborie.”
  • Mandel talks about comedic rivals in India sharing his name, and the dynamic of family—biological and podcast—as support systems.
  • “This podcast right here, bro… is my family.” — Mandel [09:54]

3. Literacy, Reading, & The Male Feminist Bookcase

• [17:14–19:13]
  • Mandel’s gentle teasing about the hosts’ book collection—whether it actually belongs to them or their partners.
  • David clarifies his books are not “girl books” and proudly owns bell hooks’ "We Real Cool".
  • The conversation turns to literacy, the struggles of reading small print, and the idea of karaoke books for adults:

    “If you had it your way, the little ball would bounce over every word.” – Langston [19:26]

4. Fish Dreams as a Black Conspiracy Theory

• [22:51–26:58]
  • Main Conspiracy: “If you dream of fish, somebody’s pregnant.”
  • Mandel shares hearing this adage in elementary school and being shocked when kids weaponized it—telling a 10-year-old classmate she was pregnant after her fish dream.

    “People think… If you have dreams about Fish, you’re pregnant—it means somebody is pregnant.” – Mandel [23:42]

  • The hosts discuss the vagueness of dream prophecies: the “someone” could be anyone—neighbor, friend, or even someone halfway around the globe.
  • Langston connects this to the broader sense that our energies might be interlinked, citing how one negative person can sour a whole comedy show’s atmosphere [25:39].

5. Dreams, Interpretation, and the Nature of Reality

• [26:58–31:32]
  • Mandel speculates fish dreams might reference pregnancies in distant places or “alternate realities”—even whole planets of Terry Crews doppelgängers.
  • They riff on the idea that dreams could be prophetic, outside linear time, and that we may receive knowledge meant for our future selves.

    “The whole concept of religion is… there’s information beyond our understanding.” – Mandel [29:47]

  • Langston shares a neighborhood story of a woman convinced she’s the target of government assassination, reflecting on how personal realities and “hidden knowledge” might overlap.

6. Dream Mechanics: Lucid Dreaming, Recurring Nightmares, & Dream Combat

• [37:43–39:38]
  • The group debates whether it's possible to control your dreams (“lucid dreaming”). Langston says he can sometimes choose actions but not solve problems.
  • Dream violence: both Langston and David joke about always losing fights or feeling powerless, with Mandel adding: “My brain don’t have enough information on what it is to win a fight.” [38:52]

7. Pros & Cons of Dream Manipulation

• [39:38–43:47]
  • Mandel expresses mild desire for more dream control, but questions the unintended consequences: “Maybe me having that control may almost have conflict with the bigger overarching plan.” [42:28]
  • David suggests that, with great dream-power, one could accidentally create “a new Hitler” by manifesting the wrong pregnancy.
  • Absurd scenario: Killing Steve Wilkos in a dream causes all deadbeat dads “to go free.” [43:09]

8. Listener Voicemail: Are Big Animals = Dinosaurs?

• [46:20–50:02]
  • Caller offers a classic "dinosaur conspiracy"—that animals like rhinos, whales, etc. are dinosaurs.
  • Langston and David roast the logic, noting huge differences in taxonomy, and correct science (“None of them got titties.” – Langston [49:46]).
  • Mandel admits, “Disprove my low IQness, because I was rolling with him just off presence alone.” [49:48]

9. Steve Harvey’s Hair Conspiracy

• [50:02–59:00]
  • Mandel stakes out a passionate (and comedic) defense that Steve Harvey’s old TV hair was real, not a wig, based on the lack of 90s hairpiece technology.
  • Langston counters with video evidence from Showtime at the Apollo—a visible bald spot before the era of perfect hairlines.

    "This was lying from the beginning. Look it up." — Langston [57:37]

  • The revelation devastates Mandel, undermining his faith in TV legends.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Podcast Networks:

  “When I look at y’all, I see stars… two names, one star.” – Mandel [02:12]

• On Black Folklore:

  “If you dream about Fish, someone is pregnant.” – Mandel [23:13]

• On Dream Science:

  “There’s a planet in some part of our reality that’s full of Terry Crews.” – Mandel [26:21]

• On Dream Power Responsibility:

  “Somebody got a dream down in the steak and shake getting active… then I go, and that's it.” – Mandel [33:54]

• On Listener Dinosaurs Theory:

  “None of them got titties.” – Langston (on why whales aren’t dinosaurs) [49:46]

• On Steve Harvey’s Hair:

  “If there was any possibility… he’s just so rich.” – David, about LeBron and Steve Harvey’s hair tech [55:33]
  “This is all bad. Yeah, but I knew it’s tough. Duh. Mandel, man. It’s Big Fun Network.” – Mandel, crestfallen [59:59]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Big Fun Network banter: 00:49–06:33
• Name confusion/Twitter handle jokes: 06:33–09:39
• Literacy & bookcase ribbing: 17:14–19:13
• Introduction to Fish Dream conspiracy: 22:51–23:13
• Fish Dream deep dive & broader dream discussion: 23:13–31:32
• Lucid dreaming and dream violence: 37:43–39:38
• Dangers of dream manipulation: 39:38–43:47
• Voicemail: Are animals dinosaurs? 46:20–50:02
• Steve Harvey hair conspiracy: 50:02–59:00

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Tone & Style

The episode is rich with camaraderie, inside jokes, and the unique flavor of Black oral tradition. The hosts and guest Mandel are constantly blending surreal riffing with core skepticism, never letting even the wildest theory go un-roasted but always returning to the cultural heart where these beliefs originate. The energy is affectionate, irreverent, and riotously funny.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a prime example of why "My Momma Told Me" thrives: it balances cultural critique, personal storytelling, and wild improv in a way that speaks directly to the absurdities, joys, and superstitions of Black life. By the end, you’ll find yourself thinking twice about that next fish dream—and revisiting old episodes just to hear Mandel get his spirit broken about Steve Harvey’s hair.

Transcript

[Caller]

Who?

[Mandel]

I'm a joy. The government grow babies. Microchips in your babies. All koala bears are racist. I'm all a joke. The ozone lair owes me money. Marshy teeth and turning stuff. Y' all can't tell me

[Langston]

Maneesh on a beach shebang. All my ops, they did. There it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me the

[David Bore]

podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories.

[Langston]

And you guessed it, you're not learning a God damn thing.

[David Bore]

God nothing.

[Langston]

We got nothing. What you pointing at, man?

[Mandel]

I'm be honest with you, man. The set, a little different.

[Langston]

It is different.

[David Bore]

A little different.

[Langston]

Thank you for noticing.

[Mandel]

And I want to say this.

[David Bore]

We have a lot more literature.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

A lot more literature. You know what I'm saying? Tower Life USA in the background. I wanna say this, bro.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

I'm excited that y' all have finally signed over to the Big Fun Network. You know what I'm saying?

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Excited that y' all have joined the network. I should have brought y' all some hats.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

And y' all are signed to Big Fun. I just wanna go ahead and put that on the record for everybody. So we know new signees. Y, congrats to you, man. Congrats. We gonna rock out and do some real good business together, man, because this podcast is on the Big Fun Network.

[Langston]

And since we're on the subject, what plans do you have for the podcast? Tell us a little bit.

[David Bore]

Oh, that's a good question. Where do you see us in five years?

[Mandel]

Where I see y', all, man. Let me tell you something. Naming lights. I'm saying. Okay, it's gonna be lights around the name.

[Langston]

You said that already. Maybe tell us something else.

[Mandel]

Name lights and just real stardom stuff. Okay. Y', all, too. When I look at you, y' all, too. I see stars.

[Langston]

Stars.

[Mandel]

Y' all know down there in Hollywood where they put their names on the ground? We putting y' alls right down there.

[David Bore]

Let's go.

[Mandel]

Get what I'm saying.

[Langston]

Separate names or are we putting them together?

[Mandel]

We gonna work a deal out.

[Langston]

Okay.

[Mandel]

We gonna work a deal.

[David Bore]

Two names, one star.

[Langston]

Two names, one star.

[Mandel]

Come on now.

[Langston]

That's a crazy sale.

[David Bore]

That might be a humiliation ritual.

[Langston]

It will be a bummer.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

Especially if us gets in trouble. That's going to be a real bummer.

[David Bore]

His name is the top.

[Mandel]

No, see, we doing like the. The R. Kelly, Jay Z. Best in both worlds.

[David Bore]

That's a terrible. On the.

[Mandel]

On the ground.

[Langston]

Those are Two. Two names that. That we. We'd get in trouble to be associated with, bro.

[Mandel]

People still rocking with Jay Z.

[Langston]

They still rock with Jay Z.

[Mandel]

Very young.

[David Bore]

Yeah, I don't think that was the controversy.

[Langston]

There is another name there, though.

[Mandel]

There is another name there. But that cat, he in prison.

[Langston]

He is in prison.

[David Bore]

And that's the Second world.

[Mandel]

I was just thinking about how somebody was telling me the other day, they said, I like, you know, they. Boy, he was like, stand up comedies. R. Kelly. Is that what they say?

[David Bore]

Please don't put that on my.

[Mandel]

I'm saying artistic saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not the other stuff.

[David Bore]

No sense. No sense. No sense.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

I'm talking purely art. Art.

[Langston]

Art. Yup.

[Mandel]

I'm not talking about extracurricular.

[Langston]

He's talking about freestyling, about dolphins.

[Mandel]

Oh, extracurricular. You got this on that finger, you know what I'm saying?

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

That's not what he was. This is like the opposite of what R. Kelly was doing.

[Mandel]

Exactly.

[Langston]

You know what? He was married the whole time.

[David Bore]

Really?

[Mandel]

To a dancer.

[Langston]

He was married to a dancer and just dogging her out with kidnapped children, man.

[David Bore]

When that woman's fed up, man, I'mma say this, bro.

[Mandel]

I'm proud of that matrimony you got going.

[David Bore]

Oh, thank you, man.

[Mandel]

Real marriage life.

[Langston]

That is nice. Yeah.

[Mandel]

Langston the family, man.

[David Bore]

Langston the family. Are you gonna get out these streets?

[Mandel]

Listen, man, right now, I'm focused on y' all career, okay? You get what I'm saying?

[Langston]

We the newest members of the Big Fun Team.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

As the.

[Langston]

You don't have time for love.

[David Bore]

Where's our chains at, huh? Our chains.

[Mandel]

They on the way.

[Langston]

Jay Z gave Kanye the.

[Mandel]

Ooh, yeah. Dang.

[Langston]

Dame, dame, dame.

[Mandel]

Can we get some work out of y' all first? Damn. Here's the thing. And let me say this. And. And I wasn't gonna say this. I'm gonna say this on these cameras.

[Langston]

Y. Yeah.

[Mandel]

Y' all gotta focus, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. When we get. We always worrying about where my chain at? What? My bag of Doritos. What about content? Content, content tag, hashtag retweet, repost.

[David Bore]

But isn't that what Big Fun is gonna do for us?

[Mandel]

Yeah, but what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I need y' all to be focused on that bruh.

[David Bore]

Right?

[Langston]

You're saying, move the chain out of the way. There's a shinier, more valuable.

[Mandel]

Come on, now. You worrying about the wrong jewels.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

The richer jewel Come on, now.

[Mandel]

I just think. I just believe in this program so much. And let me say this. This program has sold most of my tickets.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

You say that.

[Mandel]

I will say no. It's a big, big part of the pie chart.

[Langston]

I've also heard him say this about a few other podcasts.

[Mandel]

Oh, no, that's not true, bro. I said this. I said this. Okay, I'm gonna give it a buck.

[David Bore]

That hurts.

[Langston]

Yeah. Tell the truth.

[Mandel]

I said per demo. Yep, per demo. I see. That's where you gotta mess up. I said Star Roast sells a lot of tickets when it comes to that demo. And now I imagine now, no, now we'll say this. Nobody should international.

[David Bore]

I would say I was in Japan. They love Mandal in Japan.

[Mandel]

And I emailed it, and he emailed me back. But I will say this.

[David Bore]

That's crazy.

[Mandel]

I'm say this, you know, for real, which is fine. But I will say this. Don't go back and look at the Star Verse podcast after this podcast, because I don't want. I feel like people go try to misconstrue something.

[Langston]

Yeah, because you didn't say those words. You're correcting them now.

[Mandel]

Is the sense that what I'm saying is this, bro. Hey. But I will say this. A lot of people come up to me about this program, and I love that they don't know the name of this podcast.

[Langston]

No. Nobody does.

[Mandel]

We never done the name.

[Langston]

You should see how many times somebody comes on our podcast and calls it my mama. Yeah, they said. They said my mama and my mama talked. It's. It's very disrespectful misnomers.

[Mandel]

Because they always are like, I seen

[Caller]

you on

[Mandel]

Lacey and David Mama now. And I'm gonna like. I like. My favorite thing about it, too, is that they got a lot of love for you. Cause they scared to pronounce that last name wrong. I appreciate that there's a David.

[David Bore]

I do.

[Mandel]

David.

[David Bore]

I do appreciate.

[Mandel]

Yeah, yeah. David. Because my wife.

[David Bore]

It was so tough.

[Langston]

I almost exclusively referred to you as boring.

[Mandel]

Most people who know me do.

[Langston]

Yeah, it's.

[David Bore]

You don't know me. I think people say David bore that

[Langston]

G. That G is intimidating, though.

[Mandel]

For sure.

[David Bore]

You shouldn't read it before you hear it.

[Mandel]

No, put the hand over the G. Yeah.

[David Bore]

The silence. That was my Twitter. Yeah.

[Langston]

And it was a terrible Twitter name.

[David Bore]

It looked like jizz. It did.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Because it's all mushed together.

[Langston]

I always took it as the jizzilant.

[David Bore]

That's how it looked. Yeah.

[Langston]

And then I thought it was like, some sort of coming reference.

[David Bore]

Well, here's the thing, is we weren't really big on underscores in 11 when it 12, when I popped off.

[Langston]

That's right.

[David Bore]

I wasn't underscoring. Are you underscoring that?

[Mandel]

Nah, nah. But I will say that I felt like back in them days, if you had an underscore in your name, that mean you weren't creative enough.

[David Bore]

That's how it felt. That's how it felt to me, 100%.

[Mandel]

So, like, once you start going underscore numbers.

[Langston]

Yep.

[Mandel]

That mean you couldn't think of something that nobody else thought of.

[Langston]

That's right.

[David Bore]

See?

[Mandel]

And so I get what you're saying, bro.

[David Bore]

And you're in a good position, though. Cause you're the only Mandel.

[Mandel]

Pretty much, it's Howie Mandel out there.

[David Bore]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Langston]

Shout out.

[Mandel]

When I first.

[Langston]

I forgot about that. Shout out. Howie Mandel.

[David Bore]

That's Howie Mandel, which I've heard people try to mess up your name and say.

[Mandel]

Nah, they try to go Mandel. Cause they think it's a rational thing. They think they trying to compute it in they brain with common sense.

[Langston]

I think they're trying to make it a human name. And you are Man Sandal. You are, I would say, beyond humanity.

[Mandel]

And I'm gonna say this, man, that was powerful, bro. And I'm gonna say this, bro. Up until maybe last year, I was. It was three mandal comedians in India who was popping way more in India. In India, if you typed in mandel comedy on YouTube, it'll be Indian dude being like, I love my family. Family. He was big on family. Family.

[David Bore]

Family.

[Langston]

Family's funny.

[Mandel]

Family's funny. Yeah, that transverse. I don't know if that's a word. That's. I think that's a car, actually. But that go beyond this Chevy Traverse.

[Caller]

Creed.

[Mandel]

Creed color.

[Langston]

Yeah. I think you talk about that family.

[David Bore]

I think you with the family would be maybe the ultimate comedy form, though.

[Mandel]

But, you know, my family is.

[David Bore]

Huh.

[Mandel]

This podcast right here, bro.

[Caller]

Wow.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[Langston]

Mando's here, y'.

[Caller]

All.

[David Bore]

Mando's here.

[Mandel]

This podcast right here, man. The man.

[Langston]

The man who knows how to introduce himself better than anybody could.

[David Bore]

Come on.

[Langston]

We're so pleased that he's here. Give it up for you.

[Mandel]

Yeah, let's go. Thank y' all for having me again on the program, bro.

[Langston]

It's always a pleasure.

[Mandel]

This. This one of my favorite programs, and I love that y' all continue to have me on as y' all keep getting way more valuable guests, mand, the

[Langston]

feedback we get every single time you come here is nothing but positive. They're so excited when you show up. They're surprised by every choice you make. They cannot believe that a man speaks the way that you do. And in that way, it benefits us to have you back.

[David Bore]

Yeah, the Internet loves just, like, the sight of you in general. Listen, man, like, you are in a clip. People are like. Cause we get that, too. I saw a clip on our shit, and they were like, I was just thinking, you should have him on the podcast. Now I see he's on there, man.

[Mandel]

I appreciate that, bro. I'm gonna be honest with you. I really feel like whatever podcasting experience I bring to it is just based around the idea that I have a lower IQ and I'm willing to speak out loud, bro.

[David Bore]

I don't think so.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

I think you're selling. I think you're playing. I think you're playing small ball right now.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[Langston]

You have a skill for langu that I think you don't often give yourself credit for.

[Mandel]

I really don't. I can't even read like that.

[Langston]

What a convenient way to get us to dick ride you right at the start of this podcast. What a little nasty trick this motherfucker pulled. Be like, I don't know. I guess I'm just dumb and fun.

[Mandel]

No, bro, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. I do have to accept that, bro, because Langston. My whole career is Langston career getting better, bro. Every time Langston get a new thing. Whoever used to hire Langston, who you talking to, bro? Whatever you.

[David Bore]

We all need this to work.

[Mandel]

Hey, we need to put our minds behind. We need to put our minds behind Langston every bit. We got everything. You know how that. You know how like, all the black people did with Elvis? Yeah, we doing that. But overweight to slim.

[Langston]

You think the black.

[David Bore]

Yo, yo, Langston is. Langston is fat guy Elvis.

[Mandel]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Cause, like, if I roll a bit

[Langston]

blue suede, extra wide shoes.

[David Bore]

I think that was a Reggie conquest bit.

[Mandel]

We got every fat person need to take their bit. Cause let's say if I go and I'm like, I get a bit about, like, man, I was with this girl and she was annoying me. People could be like, you better keep praying that you do that. We put that in Langston hands. They're like, oh, that makes sense.

[David Bore]

This could actually be huge. We're like fathers who didn't make it. And then you're a young Hooper.

[Mandel]

I'm Joe Jackson, and you're beating the

[Langston]

shit out of me.

[Mandel]

We got to. Bro. Bro. It's gonna. Listen, you gonna have problems, but it's gonna make you a star. Yeah.

[Langston]

I will have to eventually fire you as my manager, but absolutely.

[Mandel]

And I'm. And guess what? I'm gonna get painted as a villain. But people will all know that a big part of my success was my heavy hand. You know what I'm saying? Big bloody of success.

[Langston]

Heavy hand.

[Mandel]

Was that heavy hand.

[Langston]

Open heart. Here we go.

[Mandel]

Listen, man. Listen, man.

[Langston]

No, it's a great plan, boys. I wish you the best. Commandeering my career with whatever.

[Mandel]

No, it's been great. Truly, bro. I'm very honest about how bad the career was going. Gotta be honest about when it's going good.

[Langston]

Nah, you're doing good, man.

[Mandel]

Every time Langston start ascends somebody that Langston got too busy. Folk called me bro.

[Langston]

Oh, that's all right, man.

[Mandel]

That's awesome, man.

[David Bore]

That's not working out for me.

[Mandel]

For real.

[David Bore]

Yeah. I gotta maybe change my proximity a little.

[Langston]

Nah, man. You with me all the way.

[David Bore]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Mandel]

I'm too close, okay?

[David Bore]

I'm too close to draft.

[Mandel]

That's the problem.

[David Bore]

Yes, that's what happened. I got too close to draft. I'm not even getting good fumes.

[Langston]

You're getting the same rejections I'm getting.

[David Bore]

Yeah, that's what's hard, because now I don't want to be in the same room.

[Mandel]

Look, man, y' all want to fandom.

[David Bore]

He recently beat me out for a part. That's not great. That's not great. If he and I are reading, it can't be the same thing.

[Langston]

That's a. But that's a bad reflection of Hollywood.

[Mandel]

Let me say this, bro. You gotta stop moving in tandem.

[David Bore]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

I don't love that you're ending our podcast.

[David Bore]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what he means.

[Langston]

This.

[Caller]

This.

[David Bore]

Till the day I. Motherfucking dog.

[Mandel]

No, this program. Let me tell you something. We gonna make so much money off of this.

[Langston]

We at the Big Fun Network.

[Mandel]

We gonna make so much money off this. But what I'm saying is we will

[David Bore]

hit a little disclaimer on the bottom.

[Langston]

Isaac, maybe this is not a traditional partnership.

[David Bore]

Affiliated or represent the feuds.

[Mandel]

That's crazy. That's crazy. I'm saying in the public eye.

[Langston]

Yeah, big fun.

[Mandel]

You gonna have to make them go blind with y' all relationship.

[Caller]

Whoa.

[Mandel]

Get what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

I don't know. I don'.

[Mandel]

Right now, people see. Right now, they see Lancs and they see you. They going this with it. Separate the universes.

[David Bore]

No, I think that's why I gotta get into, like, music or something.

[Langston]

Big Boy Outkast.

[Mandel]

Mm.

[David Bore]

You know, I think you should I get some owls.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Now I'm getting my own parts now. Now I guess I pull up with some weird birds.

[Langston]

You start playing Words with Friends with random people on the Internet.

[David Bore]

I've already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that for a while.

[Langston]

Wow.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Langston]

That's Big Boy shit.

[David Bore]

Is that what he's doing?

[Langston]

He's out here playing Words with Friends with People?

[David Bore]

Oh, that's fun.

[Langston]

Yeah, he's like, really indescribable.

[Mandel]

Really?

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

That's awesome. You met him, Big Boy?

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

He didn't have a scrapple box on him.

[Langston]

He did. Lil daddy.

[Mandel]

Oh, Big Boy did do Little daddy.

[David Bore]

How is that being from Atlanta, man?

[Mandel]

Man, that was crazy, bro. Like, I seen, bruh. He like, what's up, man? I'm like this big boy.

[David Bore]

Who are you more excited to be, Big Boy or John Mulaney?

[Mandel]

Big Boy. I'm a foundational black American.

[Langston]

It's good to hear you believe in that.

[Mandel]

Hey, all right. This the first edit that we have to take out of here, man. No, that's fun.

[Langston]

Don't take fun from it.

[Mandel]

Don't take fun from it.

[Langston]

We all had fun.

[Mandel]

Okay. Okay.

[David Bore]

That was a good time.

[Langston]

That was a good little riff.

[Mandel]

Okay, great. But nah, man. I mean, I'm from Atlanta, bro, so. Of course, Big Boy. I can be honest with that.

[David Bore]

No, I was.

[Mandel]

I'm rocking with John Mulaney, though. That cat. Great.

[David Bore]

I seen you on the private jet lifestyle, man.

[Mandel]

Just nerd stuff, you know what I'm saying? Just weirdo. Like odd. Like, different stuff. Like, growing up, I was so weird and different. I was always odd.

[Langston]

Like, you're always thinking, damn, why would I fly with other people? I should be flying by myself.

[Mandel]

Yeah, but on some, like, now you're on some rich stuff. On some twisted, like, I'm just too twisted to be on a plane with other people. You know what I'm saying? I way a lot just too twisted.

[Langston]

The airport feels that way about me.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Hey, I will say this, though, bro. I did see, I do think it's cool As a dude who just got married, bro, I do feel like a lot of these books did come with the relationship, bro.

[David Bore]

No, that's actually crazy. None of the books came. That was all before.

[Mandel]

These are all you. Just all you.

[Langston]

You read Baby Orca.

[David Bore]

Where's Baby? Oh, yeah, that's different. But yeah, those are all me. Cause none of these are like girl books.

[Langston]

No, I wouldn't have thought that these were.

[Mandel]

That's the Ali Wong biopic right there.

[David Bore]

That's not what that is. That's We Real Cool by bell hooks.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Oh.

[Langston]

And only dudes who are hoping to impress women read that.

[David Bore]

And it worked.

[Langston]

It works.

[Mandel]

Yeah, man. Every time. I think that's great, bro. I have.

[David Bore]

She actually has nothing to do with this room. I don't know if you see what's in here. This is.

[Langston]

Yeah, we put some pretty fucked up stuff.

[David Bore]

She don't even really be coming in here like that anymore.

[Mandel]

I could tell that. You know what? I do want to apologize to you, bro. And I did just. That is your literature, and I shouldn't assume that it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I predicted my own illiteracy issues on you, bro.

[David Bore]

I think you read more than any of us know.

[Mandel]

I don't read like that.

[David Bore]

But you like your college education.

[Mandel]

Listen, bro, let me tell you something, man. If I don't read, I don't read like that. Because, like, they not make. They're making a print too small for me to point at it. You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

It's harder to sound it out when you can't point.

[Mandel]

Hit my thing. I gotta hit every word I got to. How you know which one to look at?

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandel]

They throwing plethora of words up there

[Langston]

scattered all over the place.

[Mandel]

You start seeing all of them, you get all that. You get put in that whirlwind. Yeah, I like to go ahead and do this one, then that one, then that one.

[Langston]

If you had it your way, the little ball would bounce over everybody.

[David Bore]

Come on now.

[Mandel]

You going karaoke with it. You gotta karaoke it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[David Bore]

That's a million dollar idea. Karaoke books.

[Langston]

Karaoke book.

[Mandel]

Here's the thing you need to get. And that's why we're gonna do that deal with Audible. You got that audible deal lined up for y'?

[Langston]

All? You already got it lined up.

[David Bore]

You got it lined up.

[Mandel]

I got a hundred thousand dollar audible deal lined up for you.

[David Bore]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Langston]

Maybe we do need to Go to the Big Fun Network.

[Mandel]

I got an audible deal for y'. All. Spotify.

[Langston]

Spotify, too.

[David Bore]

Amazon?

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[Langston]

Oh, they're not competing in this.

[Mandel]

What? They say they want to share y'.

[Caller]

All. Damn.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

I do feel good.

[Mandel]

Damn.

[Langston]

We getting a train run on us, huh?

[David Bore]

Well, I hate. Even monetarily, I would not like to.

[Mandel]

You don't want to train for real?

[David Bore]

The money you want to get a money train ran on you. That sounds tough.

[Langston]

The Money Train sounds pretty cool, man. That was a good Wesley Snipes. It was Harrelson.

[David Bore]

It was not a good movie.

[Langston]

You didn't like that movie?

[David Bore]

What's your favorite part about the movie Money Train?

[Langston]

When they fight each other on the subway because they're brothers, but they're pretending to be mad at each other.

[David Bore]

What's your second favorite part of the movie Money Train?

[Langston]

I don't know.

[David Bore]

There we go.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

I don't remember.

[Mandel]

He gave you one, though.

[Langston]

Yeah. You didn't expect me to have one?

[David Bore]

No, no. In my head, I was thinking about that movie. The movie with Damon Wayans and Adam Sandler.

[Langston]

No, that was.

[David Bore]

I was fucked up.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

That's worse.

[Langston]

Money Train was a solid bad movie.

[David Bore]

Yeah. I'm thinking of Celtic Pride.

[Mandel]

I gotta actually go for autumn deals that I gave y'. All.

[Langston]

Yeah. I didn't actually believe.

[Mandel]

Nah. I got a bigger deal for y'.

[David Bore]

All.

[Mandel]

You got a bigger deal with Yahoo?

[Langston]

Dot com.

[David Bore]

Yahoo.

[Mandel]

Yahoo. Getting into podcasting. Whoa, whoa.

[David Bore]

We'll be the first Yahoo podcast.

[Mandel]

They want y' all to be the first podcast.

[Langston]

Now, help me understand, because we are under the Big Fun Network. Why would we bring in a third party like Yahoo for podcasting? You promised us wealth and fame. Stars, lights, names in lights, I believe, is how you presented it originally. What does Yahoo do for us?

[Mandel]

360 deal. So it's 360. So when it's 360, it's gonna be other people involved.

[Langston]

You know what I'm saying? So you're saying we signed a bad deal getting involved.

[Mandel]

Whoa, whoa. Bad?

[David Bore]

It's like shady aftermath.

[Langston]

360 is not traditionally a good deal.

[Mandel]

Nah, see, that's that propaganda that y' all been, like, fed, you know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

Okay.

[Mandel]

The way we gonna have y' all deal set up.

[Langston]

Yep.

[Mandel]

Y' all go make money. Indians go make money. Jews go make money.

[David Bore]

White, black, Korean, 360 degrees of racial money.

[Mandel]

All types of people go make money.

[David Bore]

You got the Koreans in on this?

[Mandel]

Korea is Invested in God.

[Langston]

Okay, I, I, I'm.

[Mandel]

And I'm gonna keep it a bug. The Koreans like you more than they like him.

[Langston]

Okay, that's complicated. I was about to say that probably isn't for the reasons we would hope.

[Mandel]

Disregard what I just said.

[Langston]

Disregard.

[Mandel]

I just said what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, is forget that. More importantly, proud of y', all, man.

[Langston]

Yeah. Thank you, man. We're so happy you're here. You came to us with a conspiracy theory that I'm sure we're gonna need to cover differently than we anticipated. Just knowing you, this is gonna be fun. You said, my mama told me if, if you. If there are dreams about Fish, somebody is pregnant.

[Mandel]

Yeah. And let me say. And I'm gonna start this by saying people think that. The first time I ever heard this.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

I was in elementary school.

[Langston]

Okay.

[Mandel]

And I was in. I was like, maybe 10. And then this one girl said that she had a dream about fish. Oh, no. And then the other girl says, you pregnant?

[David Bore]

Fuck, that's.

[Langston]

And she's 10 as well, I assume. Yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

And.

[Mandel]

And I was like, that don't make sense. And then I went back and asked my mama about it, and she was like, oh, that's just a thing that people say. And I realized it's not. If you have dreams about Fish, you're pregnant, it means somebody is pregnant.

[Langston]

Yeah. That's the bummer that that little girl put on that other little girl is like, if she had a dream about Fish, her mom could be pregnant.

[Mandel]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Langston]

Her cousin could be pregnant.

[Mandel]

That's what I'm saying.

[Langston]

But to be like, you're pregnant, you're putting this 10 year old in a terrible tailspin.

[David Bore]

Yeah. She's like, I haven't.

[Mandel]

Cause I think. Cause I think the conspiracy is true. Right.

[David Bore]

You think if you dream about Fish, someone is pregnant.

[Mandel]

Yes. But then you have to decide how far the length of the person who is pregnant.

[David Bore]

Yeah. Oh, from you. Have you ever dreamt about Fish and then had somebody come up pregnant?

[Mandel]

I have dreamt about fish, but I know somebody on earth became pregnant.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

So how far you go, you could be connected with them spiritually.

[David Bore]

It could be just somebody in the fish.

[Mandel]

Philippines. It could be somebody in Brunei.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, good point.

[Mandel]

Maybe the Sultan. The Sultan of Brunas. One of his many wives.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandel]

They doing it over there.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Could be pregnant.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

And I'm the one who. And the fish dream came to me.

[Langston]

It's because of you.

[David Bore]

What I'm saying, because there's no. There's no direct line because it's dreams, it's ethereal, it could be anything.

[Langston]

Yeah, I. I do think the world energy is so interconnected, for sure, that the idea that our influence only exists around, like, people we're in constant contact with feels false.

[David Bore]

Right.

[Langston]

Like we are influencing everyone.

[David Bore]

There's our energy, there's some people here.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah. If you are having a bad day, that, that fucking. You see it at comedy clubs all the time where, like, if somebody sucks in a crowd, they could ruin it.

[David Bore]

Oh, yeah. It could be cancer. It could spread, it spreads. Yeah, yeah.

[Langston]

A big old, like, mean lad in a crowd.

[David Bore]

Oh, man. Like a. Like a Arms crossed.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Tell me what you going to do if she's.

[Langston]

She's feeling funky, Them three tables next to her going to be feeling weird and their tables next to them.

[Mandel]

We.

[Langston]

We control a lot of energy. So I believe you could influence the Sultan of Brunei.

[Mandel]

Absolutely. And think about like this. It's multiple universes, man.

[Caller]

Uh.

[Mandel]

Oh. You don't even know if that information was given to you on this. On this celestial plane.

[Langston]

Whoa.

[David Bore]

Oh, you're saying. So it could go to some. A different plane either, bro.

[Mandel]

You gotta think about it like this. It's an infinite amount of realities that could exist.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

It's a planet in some part of our reality that's full of Terry Crews.

[Langston]

Oh, that's a bad plan.

[David Bore]

That was a. I felt like that's a direct hit.

[Mandel]

I would love to be on Terry Crews planet. You would not doing calisthenics.

[Langston]

You think that's. You think that's the only thing keeping you from doing calisthenics? Lennox now is.

[Mandel]

I. I don't know more than one Terry. I don't know no Terry Crews.

[Langston]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mandel]

You know, three Terry Crews. You say you ain't gonna get down there and do them push ups with him?

[Langston]

Nah. If you're around him all the time, I bet you do it with him.

[Mandel]

Yeah, yeah, he down there, man. Burpee. Burpee night.

[David Bore]

Burpee night.

[Mandel]

Burpee holiday on the Syracuse planet.

[Langston]

Burpee night, y'.

[Mandel]

All. That's they God king, Emperor Burpee, the

[Langston]

big burpee in the sky.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

Happy birthday to you.

[Mandel]

Yeah, yeah, exactly, bruh. So I'm saying, like, I think that the. Could be communicated to us beyond our understanding.

[David Bore]

Okay.

[Mandel]

I think so much, you know, when people start thinking about dreams and stuff.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

It could be just a Culmination of different events, your life, or different things that you saw during that day and your brain trying to make sense of it. Sure. But if you want to have a little fun, it could be we are all connected in some weird way and you might just be getting fed information, you might be a veteran for this information to spread through a whole nother dimension.

[David Bore]

So what you're saying also is that we should be tracking our dreams. Do you track your dreams?

[Mandel]

I don't track my dreams, man. I feel like I let mine flow.

[David Bore]

I've been so curious since this topic came up about what you dream about.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Okay.

[Langston]

So, yeah, break down some recent dreams, you know?

[David Bore]

Yeah. What are some Mandal dreams?

[Mandel]

So when I was a kid, when I was like, five, I used to have this dream where I would be in the bed and my grandmama basically basement. And. And then I was in the bed with my mom. Then I floated up through the ceiling. When I went through the ceiling, I was in the library.

[Langston]

Your grandma had a library?

[Mandel]

No.

[Langston]

Oh, the public library.

[Mandel]

It was just a library.

[Langston]

So you went from your grandma's basement to a public library?

[Mandel]

Yeah. Through the ceiling I flew. And then when I went through the ceiling, I'm in the library. And then an orange little toy bite me on the ankle. And then I open the door and it's rainbows. And I had a dream maybe like 20 times when I was like, from like, five to seven.

[David Bore]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Langston]

Rainbows, like, shooting out at you?

[Mandel]

No, they just there. I open the door, the rainbows wake up. I did like, 20 times.

[David Bore]

What do you think that means?

[Mandel]

Yeah. Huh?

[David Bore]

What do you think that means?

[Mandel]

That my mama told me is coming to the big fun network.

[David Bore]

Yo.

[Mandel]

See, that information that I was hit with at that time, I didn't understand.

[David Bore]

You went crazy just now, right? Yeah.

[Mandel]

But then as I grew, as I grew and I went through life, it was revealed why I was giving that.

[Langston]

You're saying that in some ways our dreams are not even of our present experience.

[David Bore]

Oh, yeah. That's not. Yeah, it's not locked down in any time or anything.

[Langston]

There's a future that this dream becomes applicable. Allah, rainbows. My mama told me.

[Mandel]

Listen, the whole concept. The whole concept of any religion is that there's something. Religion, I'm just. I'm saying, is that there's information beyond our understanding. That's what your relationship with Jesus is. Eventually you ask enough questions, you realize, hey, you gotta have faith. Because there's a knowledge, there's a power, there's a Being that's beyond human understanding. So sometimes we might get a glimpse of information that we think is mumbo jumbo. Baloney. Little do we. Huh?

[Langston]

Say one more haberdashery,

[Mandel]

Dave, dear. Of being haberdasher.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

And. And that is a piece of something that's beyond our consciousness at that time.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Right. I used to wake up. I used to have that dream all the time when I was a kid. I never knew at that time I would meet David Bore and Langston, and then they would have a program that needed to be under my YouTube umbrella.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[Langston]

It all makes sense now.

[Mandel]

Man.

[Langston]

Man. Yeah, you really. You're piecing it together really nicely. If I could get you back to this conspiracy for one second. You. You believe in the. The transferable property of dream? Fish dream to pregnancy? Do you. Do you fear that power? Is that. Does that then make you wake up from a fish dream and go, oh, damn.

[David Bore]

Yeah. They're only 20 years old.

[Langston]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mandel]

No.

[Langston]

She got a whole life ahead of her.

[David Bore]

He just got a promotion. He's not a good time.

[Mandel]

I think there could be some responsibility that we may have to. Like you said to write these down and capture this information. Cause I'm thinking. What happened?

[Langston]

No, I kicked this off.

[David Bore]

We keep touching feet. It's very uncomfortable because we're not wearing shoes. So it feels like.

[Langston]

Nah, man.

[David Bore]

It's really bad.

[Mandel]

When y' all brought brothers.

[David Bore]

Yeah. Yeah. But that's not. What do you do with your brother?

[Langston]

Come on, feet.

[Mandel]

Come on, now. Come on, Come on. But what I'm saying is me and your homies rock out. That's y' all business. Everybody different. No, y' all two regularly married men who going foot to foot with it. That's brother stuff.

[Langston]

Yeah, that's brother stuff.

[Mandel]

You're right. I know millennial folk who done killed together, they done rub feet. Straight up. Just man stuff.

[Langston]

So just murder a man and then rub some feet.

[Mandel]

Honestly, if I went so far away, I might got in there with y', all, man.

[David Bore]

You're really not far away at all.

[Mandel]

I'm too far. No, I'm too far.

[Langston]

You kind of closer to me now.

[Mandel]

I'm too far, man. God, if I was just a little closer, man, I would have got involved. But, you know. You know how it goes.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Langston]

The distance is geometry. It's hard to cover it.

[David Bore]

It's a tough angle.

[Mandel]

But I do think. I do feel that there is somebody who had a dream who know exactly how I'm gonna die. You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

Do you have. Do you have worries about how you're gonna die?

[Mandel]

Nah. I kinda know, man. Cardiac arrest. Easy peasy. Fuck. Come on. I'm going. Burgers and fries in the morning, burgers and fries at night. Listen, when you burger fry it as much as I. As much as I'm doing it, that heart gonna slow down for sure, man. Let me tell you something. You can't burger fry that much, man. BNF new new new. It's gonna stop pumping. No question. No question. No question, man. But how. That's what I'm saying. Somebody got a. Somebody got a dream down in the steak and shake getting active.

[David Bore]

Then I go

[Mandel]

and that's it.

[David Bore]

Dialogue. You live. Hilarious.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[Langston]

You think that other dreams. So it's not limited to just fish dreams for you?

[Mandel]

No. I'm thinking maybe like there's information in everybody's head that they have no idea why they have. Have it. Right.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

You know how like in a movie it'll be like a fisherman or, or, or, or, or like a farmer or some merchant who had the prophecy.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

You get what I'm saying? They was bestowed with that information. They had. No, they, they had an amulet or, or something that they, they kept for a long time or like a plant or something.

[Caller]

Right.

[Mandel]

And they had no idea what their purpose was until they came across this person. Then they gave it to them.

[Langston]

I think about it often. There's this woman who wears like a full face mask.

[David Bore]

In your dreams?

[Langston]

No, she lives in my neighborhood. She lives in her car in my neighborhood.

[David Bore]

Damn.

[Langston]

And she.

[David Bore]

Your neighborhood's too nice for that.

[Langston]

You go enough blocks in a certain direction, it.

[Mandel]

Things change.

[Langston]

But also she lives by the grocery store and she wears a full mask and she's written all these messages on the outside of her car. She lives in her car and wrote on a cardboard box about how Donald Trump and Joe Biden have been trying to assassinate me, how she has secrets of what the government has been doing. She knows all of the inner workings, and this is all an intentional murder situation we're all facing because of what she knows and how often I walk past her car and I think, like, it's absurd, that's an absurd concept, that this random black lady in LA is somehow being targeted by these two people. But then I hear what you're saying and it does remind me that there's a lot of things we don't understand about the world and that, like, she may not be speaking literally. Like they may not Literally be sending people to assassinate her, but conceptually, they have assassinated her and maybe her character and her sense of self.

[David Bore]

We don't know how she got to that car, dog.

[Langston]

She's in a car, man. And so I. I hear all of what you're saying and I go, God damn, that is scary.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

That these things are so interconnected and there are people who know how we end up the way we end up, even without saying it.

[David Bore]

Do you dream about fish ever?

[Langston]

I don't remember any of my dreams.

[David Bore]

Oh, you smoke Whisk with that weed.

[Langston]

But even before then, I didn't.

[David Bore]

Oh, really?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Langston]

I wasn't really.

[Mandel]

You remember Annie?

[Langston]

Not I. I'll remember, like, bits and pieces of some of them, but more often than not, I'm waking up and I go, all right, I survived. Let's begin again.

[Mandel]

That's crazy.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

That's a real something. It's something to that.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

No, we should maybe not unpack it right now.

[Caller]

No.

[Langston]

Okay.

[David Bore]

It survived again.

[Langston]

Every morning it went dark and now it's light again. Thank God.

[Mandel]

Yeah. You skipping the cut scenes every time is crazy.

[David Bore]

Yeah. That is wild.

[Langston]

I get them every once in a while, but not very often.

[David Bore]

I know that I don't really dream about animals like that.

[Mandel]

Really.

[David Bore]

On people's stuff. They really don't. Animals really aren't in my dreams like that.

[Langston]

Are the people in your dreams weird, or are they regular ass people with weird stuff happening?

[David Bore]

It's usually people in my life in my dreams, but sometimes there's random. Sometimes there's randoms, for sure. And then it feels so specific inside of it.

[Mandel]

I got a question for y'.

[Caller]

All.

[Mandel]

Can y' all control what's happening in your dream?

[David Bore]

Nah, man.

[Mandel]

People be like, oh, I had. Did this and that. They, like, made choices. I'm kind of at the mercy of the experience.

[David Bore]

Same people say it's called lucid dreaming. Right?

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[Langston]

Yeah. I can make choices, but I can't make. I can't solve problems.

[David Bore]

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

[Langston]

Like, how I. The few. One of the more recent dreams that I remember, I remember being able to, like, choose my action, but my action did not fix what I was trying to fix. And so I. I found myself now with, like, a new worst scenario because I had chosen ultimately wrong.

[David Bore]

Yeah. I'm also never as violent as I'd like to be in my dreams.

[Caller]

Bro.

[Langston]

I wish I was beating ass. I ain't never beat.

[David Bore]

You get those dreams where it feels like you're swinging underwater.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Where, like, it Goes. And it's just like your shit's, like slow and not. And you're trying so hard. That's a frustrating.

[Langston]

Always punching people in the face and then it don't hurt them.

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston]

And they stare right back at you.

[David Bore]

Yeah. Do you defeat people in combat in your dreams? Man.

[Mandel]

I feel like I've had some comeback experiences in my dreams, but it go the way it go in real life. They whooping me. They whooping me. I think my brain don't have enough information on what it is to win a fight.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

It doesn't know how that feels.

[David Bore]

It doesn't even know how to imagine it. It's such a foreign concept.

[Mandel]

Imagine like.

[Langston]

Nah, nah. You know how it is. Come on, let's switch places.

[Mandel]

Not even in your dreams, pal.

[Langston]

Before we go to break, and we do need to take a break. Mandel, are you at all wanting to figure out a way to control your dreams more precisely so that you can have a more effective control over your life and the lives of people around you?

[Caller]

Wow.

[Mandel]

Okay, that's a good. Are we holding that for the break?

[Langston]

No. Tell us now.

[Mandel]

Oh, okay. My bad. Go, man.

[David Bore]

Honestly, if you wanna come back and do it.

[Mandel]

Listen, man, I think that. I think obviously this is the plot to Inception. You know what I'm saying? We are starting to go to Inception. That is a movie that I fell asleep on four times. I know there's people's favorite movie. You never finished it. Never finished it, man. Oh, I see the dude on the train wa. And then I fall asleep on Delta Airlines every time.

[David Bore]

That's same exception.

[Mandel]

I really.

[David Bore]

I really pretended like I got it for years. I had never even. I know that the tops is spinning.

[Langston]

Inception on a little plane. On a little. Yeah, little screen is wrong.

[David Bore]

Well, I always feel like I'm gonna lock in on an airplane. I like to take a complicated movie and watch it on an airplane. Because I'm not doing anything else else. I'm not even watch. I'm just focused in.

[Langston]

I know I'm gonna fall asleep.

[Mandel]

I fall asleep every time.

[David Bore]

Every time.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

I watched some of the saddest movies I ever watched. Manchester by the Sea. Watched on planes.

[Langston]

I wanted to watch Hamnet and couldn't do it. Cause I knew I was gonna fall

[Mandel]

asleep and shout out to all the real men who stay up the whole time, man. Y' all boys 2 turn. I couldn't do it. I can't do it. But to answer your question, I do think that maybe a part of me wants to have control over the drum. Because I like to have a little bit more control of my life. But if I.

[David Bore]

Do you not feel in control currently.

[Mandel]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, man. I'm bound by my own desires, bro. But I will say this. I do think that this nigga just be talking, man. But I will say this, man. Yeah. I wanna also. I wanna say this. I'm gonna make one pivot before I finish that. Because, man, Lance and phone vibrating a lot. And I want to say.

[Langston]

I'm sorry.

[Mandel]

No, no, no, no. I want to say something about this. No, no, no, no, no. It's actually a comment on how our realities are so different. Because the amount of vibrations, the amount of text that he got while we have been sitting here.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Might be my monthly.

[David Bore]

Yo. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I never see you on your phone either.

[Mandel]

Oh, that's not true.

[David Bore]

I mean, when I'm like.

[Mandel]

I'm waiting for it, I'm over there. Okay.

[Langston]

I have a few very active group chats.

[Mandel]

That's hard.

[Langston]

That's all it is.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[Langston]

And if you get a few active group chats, you get an insane amount of text messages.

[David Bore]

I'm a bad steward of a group chat.

[Mandel]

Let's cut this phone comment I made because I realized I was. I realized. I realized that that was fruitless.

[Langston]

No, nothing's fruitless. We're having fun.

[Mandel]

But I will say this. I do think that even with the desire to control said dreams again, we don't have full understanding of the information we're given. So maybe me having that control may almost have conflict with the bigger overarching plan.

[David Bore]

Because you don't even know what you're doing. Cause like, you have control and you say, okay, give me some fish. But you don't know where that's going out to. Now, somebody who wasn't supposed to get pregnant is pregnant because you manifested it. And it could be like a new Hitler or something. We don't know who you got pregnant.

[Mandel]

I stabbed the dude in the dream. That boy, Steve Wilkos done passed away. Steve Wilkos was down there whooping on people. Cause they ain't taking care of their kids. Now people who dead be dads get to go free. Cause I done killed Steve Wilkos in my dream. You know what I'm saying?

[Langston]

And all these bad men are now filling the streets again.

[Mandel]

Yeah. They don't have to deal with the guilt of him yelling in their face.

[Langston]

Yeah. And they were being. They were going to be better guys.

[Mandel]

They was.

[David Bore]

They Were going to listen. Steve was good.

[Langston]

Steve was a good guy, man.

[Mandel]

That cat would be like, so you're not taking care of your kids? Well, I think you're a punk.

[Langston]

You make me sick.

[Mandel]

Yeah, that was all he got. And then that dude went home and still didn't take care of his.

[David Bore]

No, no, no, no.

[Langston]

He just said Steven.

[Mandel]

Yeah, my bad about the text.

[Langston]

All right, we're going to take a break. More, Mando.

[Caller]

More.

[Langston]

My mama told me.

[David Bore]

We're back. There's no. There's no soundboard. Yeah, this is the basement tapes. You know what I mean?

[Langston]

We're going to get that sound.

[Mandel]

It's on the way.

[David Bore]

This is big. Biggie recording that demo. We just got out.

[Mandel]

How much a soundboard call? Oh, we're gonna need a iPad.

[Langston]

Are the soundboards we like?

[Mandel]

Yeah, yeah, Thousands. Like, give me the number. What's the number?

[David Bore]

5,000.

[Mandel]

Yeah, 5,000. Okay.

[Caller]

We go.

[Langston]

Yeah, you got that taken care of over at Big Fun.

[Caller]

We.

[Mandel]

We go meditating on it. We go see how y' all do.

[Langston]

Oh, meditation's involved.

[Mandel]

Yeah, y' all want to make sure. The thing is, bro, y' all don't want to be so reliant on all the antics. This pure.

[David Bore]

This is pure right now.

[Mandel]

You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

That's how we feel about this.

[Mandel]

Y' all don't want to be sub. So bound to electricity and all that type of stuff.

[David Bore]

Well, you gotta give us electricity.

[Mandel]

Come on now. Today you want electricity, tomorrow you gonna want. AI, no. You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

Tomorrow I want health insurance.

[Mandel]

Ooh, I got somebody for you. What you need knee replacement? I got two. I got about two, three knees.

[Langston]

You got knees. Catch.

[Mandel]

Guys, I got, like. I got. I got knees themselves.

[Langston]

Oh, you guys just lose.

[David Bore]

Just knees.

[Mandel]

I got three of them on some ice caps, too.

[Langston]

Yeah, the whole thing. Cuz. I don't want a knee with no caps.

[David Bore]

I need a patella.

[Mandel]

I got a full knee down. Down there. Just call me. It's on ice right now. Okay, what size you. What size yours is?

[David Bore]

About six and a half.

[Mandel]

About six and a half knee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston]

You got that?

[Mandel]

Yeah, we got. We got. We got six and a seven. He needs that half, but we'll see which one fit you.

[Langston]

Ok.

[Mandel]

He need a knee. I mean, what the.

[Langston]

He gonna walk a little funny, but he gonna have a knee now.

[Mandel]

Yeah, you gonna have a little. You gonna have a little samph of that sign to you. You know what I'm saying? Going out, but it's all good.

[Langston]

Manda.

[David Bore]

We.

[Langston]

We get voicemails from our. From our dear listeners.

[Mandel]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Langston]

We want to play one now. Feel free to stop it at any time. You just say stop and I'll stop.

[Caller]

Stop. I. I don't appreciate that y' all called me a at the end. But anyway, something like looking at videos of baby rhinos. Been there. And I'm realizing that. What if, like, dinosaurs never really died, bro. We just don't call them dinosaurs no more. Rhinos, sharks, whales, Komodo dragon, giraffes, Armadillos. All them shits is bite.

[Langston]

Come on, brother.

[Caller]

They look like dinosaurs, bro.

[Mandel]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Caller]

They're built like dinosaurs.

[Mandel]

Right, right.

[Caller]

They're basically dinosaurs.

[Mandel]

Right.

[Caller]

We just don't call them dinosaurs no more. The dinosaurs never. They never went as the. The dinosaurs never went ext. Okay. They just evolved. Oh, red fish, blue fish, one fish, two fish. Say it with me now. Knickknack patty whack.

[Mandel]

All right.

[Langston]

You playing on my phone.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

I will not say it with you.

[Caller]

Yeah, right.

[Mandel]

I'mma say this, man.

[Langston]

Yeah, he's done.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

I. I respect. I respect the conspiracy. I like the delivery as well. You almost gave up on him.

[Langston]

I did. I had my doubts right from the beginning because of how stupid the first statement was.

[Mandel]

Yeah, for sure.

[David Bore]

He didn't get better.

[Langston]

No. He didn't get smarter, certainly.

[Mandel]

But the examples over time. You like, yes. These are animals that have hard exteriors. And I feel like that was the thing that he was trying to make.

[Langston]

But I don't even think that's true. He said if I'm remembering some of the list. He did say armadillo. Hard exterior, for sure.

[David Bore]

He also said giraffe.

[Mandel]

Giraffe.

[Langston]

He said. He said shark. He said whale.

[Mandel]

I'll just say it though.

[Langston]

I think all he is listing is big ass animals.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

And being like, they are dinosaurs.

[Mandel]

They are dinosaurs.

[David Bore]

Komodo dragon.

[Langston]

Komodo dragon. That's the closest he got to legit. Sharks technically, I guess, are dinosaurs. They lived in that era.

[David Bore]

But like, he also said. He also was like, like, oh, what if there were dinosaurs and then they evolved into something else? That's just like.

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

What people say happened.

[Langston]

But.

[David Bore]

But also that's not your theory. That's just like. And more happened. Right.

[Langston]

More importantly, T. Rex didn't. Or fucking Triceratops didn't become rhino. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's. They're not even of the same, like, genome. Yeah.

[David Bore]

On whale's dinosaur. Dinosaurs directly.

[Langston]

That's crazy, because I think sharks are.

[David Bore]

I thought whales came from dinosaurs, though. Like they went back in the water.

[Langston]

No, because dinosaurs are not mammals.

[David Bore]

None of them got titties.

[Langston]

None of them got titties. Yeah.

[Mandel]

All right, well, disapprove my low iqness because I was rolling with them just off of presence alone.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

And y' all had two pivotal sentences that make sense but be incorrect.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

I wanted to share something, man. I was looking at this picture of Steve Harvey, man.

[Langston]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mandel]

And I know we starting to get towards the end of the program, bro, but I just wanted to say this on record, bro. No matter what people say, I don't think Steve Harvey had a unit on in the Steve Harvey Show. Wow. I think that was. Bruh. People love saying this. And I understand people have like, what? Whatever information, but I think we just get so nervous when we see somebody well respected, dressed nice, with a perfectly shaped hairline.

[Langston]

You think?

[David Bore]

Here's one thing I do think. Cause it was perfect. You know who else's hair was perfect on a sitcom that no one ever says was a piece?

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Martin Lawrence.

[Mandel]

Come on, bro.

[David Bore]

Not a hair out of place. A single episode, bro. I got one through five right here. We can run the tapes.

[Caller]

Look.

[Mandel]

Hey, that's what I'm saying. Him and Steve Harvey Johnson look exactly the same. Nobody ever said that.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

I never missed.

[Mandel]

Let me tell you. And let me say this. Come on.

[David Bore]

Look at the.

[Mandel]

Look at that. Look at it. Look at it. Clean. Shape ups.

[David Bore]

Come on.

[Mandel]

And then it's like my thing is also Eddie Murphy.

[David Bore]

Nary a hair out of place.

[Mandel]

Come on. Come on, bro.

[David Bore]

Smooth. Coming to America, Eddie Murphy. That's not a piece, but Steve Harvey's piece.

[Langston]

I'll say that while I agree with you that these gentlemen do have perfect hair throughout time, I think Steve Harvey never. We saw Eddie Murphy with different cuts. We saw Martin Lawrence get like the low Caesar joint. And then we saw him get like, you know, his box. The box was more traditionally Martin the Show. But I'm saying that, like, there were periods we saw different styles from him, Steve. We saw one style and then he was bald the next time we saw him.

[David Bore]

But I think that's just a man who has a lot of time. You gotta read those books. He's a man of commitment, bro.

[Mandel]

But the hair was for what, almost 15 years?

[Langston]

It was a long time.

[Mandel]

So he just cut his hair off. He a person who just make decisions.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

If he had a unit where he got it from that show was out way before Turkey. People weren't even. Turkey wasn't even around back then. People weren't even going to Turkey like that.

[Langston]

I think some of our listeners are gonna fact check you on, but absolutely not.

[Mandel]

Hey, hey. Catsman started going to Turkey till what, 2011.

[David Bore]

I do agree with you on that.

[Mandel]

Steve Hart. Where he would have gotten technology from.

[David Bore]

Okay. That's what I'm saying. Because who is making black men's hairpieces in the early 90s?

[Mandel]

I don't know. Come on now.

[Langston]

I don't know.

[David Bore]

You don't even know. I don't know if he had a perfect one then.

[Langston]

But if there was a person powerful enough on this earth to get them wiped clean. Steve Harvey, let me.

[Mandel]

Let me. Let me tell you.

[David Bore]

Come on.

[Langston]

I think he could make a hairpiece man disappear.

[Mandel]

This is the first time. This is the first time ever that I think I'm about to beat you in an argument.

[Langston]

Okay.

[David Bore]

I'm excited. Let's go, cuz. I be getting annoyed.

[Mandel]

I measure all hair technology.

[Langston]

Yep.

[Mandel]

By what LeBron was able to accomplish.

[Langston]

Okay.

[Mandel]

Hey, LeBron.

[David Bore]

I don't even know why it snapped.

[Langston]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandel]

Most br.

[Langston]

Get off his dick.

[David Bore]

No, no. He's going crazy right now.

[Mandel]

Don't be a hater. Don't be a hater. You hate him.

[David Bore]

That LeBron was good. The most.

[Mandel]

The most money, more money than most.

[David Bore]

Fame, more money than Steve Harvey.

[Mandel]

NBA.

[David Bore]

And he couldn't get it done.

[Mandel]

Well, he still. They sent him down to Turkey. They sent him down to Botswani.

[David Bore]

Come on.

[Mandel]

Wherever they doing here?

[David Bore]

Mandel, let's go.

[Mandel]

Mandel still bald spot.

[Langston]

Can I.

[David Bore]

Can I.

[Mandel]

You said Steve Hart at the beginning of his career.

[David Bore]

Let's go.

[Mandel]

Was able to find the resources for that.

[David Bore]

Can I give a guy from Cleveland intelligence spin artificial.

[Mandel]

Come on now.

[Langston]

That's a quote from you.

[Mandel]

Come on now.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Get some bars on.

[Langston]

Can I rebut? Am I allowed to go for a rebuttal here? Number one, they say the reason LeBron has never been able to fix his hair is because you need six months to a year to rest the follicles in order to restore the hair fully. You've really researched this motherfucker can't rest. He's never had a break. He's been playing basketball since he was a little boy.

[David Bore]

What does rest the follicles mean? You can't sweat.

[Mandel]

I don't think you were allowed to

[Langston]

go outside with that shit, dawg.

[David Bore]

You think Steve Harvey.

[Langston]

I think Steve looked at him he

[David Bore]

was out perfecting his craft.

[Langston]

And I'm saying Steve looked at the landscape and said, I could fly to Turkey, but I would have to give up hosting gigs for a year. I'm not doing that.

[Mandel]

But here's my thing.

[David Bore]

Shave it in the early 90s.

[Mandel]

But check this out. You saying LeBron used his. Follow his follicle muscles every day on the basketball court? Every day he in there.

[Langston]

I think that's what makes him the goat.

[Mandel]

I think.

[Langston]

I think we've seen other ball players who didn't know how to do that.

[Mandel]

Listen, bro, I think, Yeah. I think that if there was a. A. Some science to put on that cranium to go from bald to full head of hair that worked that well, LeBron would have had it.

[David Bore]

I. I do think if there was any possibility. He's just so rich.

[Langston]

Here's the other thing that I know.

[Mandel]

They take that hair from up under your posterior.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Your armpit. And put that up top. That's one thing. They'll take your hair from your eyelid, bro. Put it right up here.

[Langston]

I don't think they do that. I think they.

[Mandel]

They take care from other places.

[Langston]

Not your eyelids.

[David Bore]

I don't have.

[Mandel]

You get to pick where the hair come from.

[Langston]

You do get to pick.

[Mandel]

That's what I'm saying.

[David Bore]

You get to pick.

[Mandel]

I don't think that they.

[Langston]

I think they give you a choice in. In like, a choice of, like, two or three options.

[Mandel]

I ain't gonna lie. As a cat who don't be wearing, like, flip flops and stuff, I'll go toe knuckle hair.

[Langston]

Toe knuckle hair on the head.

[David Bore]

Do you have hairy legs?

[Mandel]

I ain't gonna miss that.

[David Bore]

I never seen you wear shorts before.

[Mandel]

Nah, I. I don't. I ain't. Right.

[David Bore]

Really?

[Mandel]

Testosterone heavy like that.

[David Bore]

I mean, you got a big, full beard.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Nah, but that's what I'm saying. Like, I was just talking to somebody about this, man. I went to the doctor. He was talking about the testosterone. He was like, bro, you got to work out and stuff.

[Langston]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

I just.

[David Bore]

I was like. Did you. Were you getting your testosterone tested?

[Mandel]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Like, for. What do you have coming up?

[Mandel]

I was just trying to see what the vibes was like, bro.

[Langston]

How much, Doc? How much, man?

[Mandel]

Am I. I was trying to get the testosterone up, man. And it made sense, too, because I don't be angry, like, that whole time.

[David Bore]

I.

[Langston]

All right, man.

[Mandel]

Nah, that's what. We actually have to cut that. That's the one thing we actually got to Cut. I ain't going to lie. I'll say this.

[Langston]

But anyway, this is the other part

[Mandel]

that I think that you do make a note that could actually cut that.

[Langston]

This is the other part that I think that you're ignoring is that I've seen Steve Harvey's first television appearance.

[Mandel]

Okay?

[Langston]

Are you familiar with his first television appearance?

[David Bore]

Showtime at the Apollo.

[Langston]

Showtime at the Apollo.

[Mandel]

He.

[Langston]

He is being introduced by Sinbad. Sinbad hosting at the time. Calls out for Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey comes from the side of the stage. They have a camera on the side of the stage. And you can see as he walks out the box in the front and the massive, massive bald spot shining through on the back end. He was bald before we met him.

[Mandel]

Okay?

[Langston]

This was lying from the beginning. Look it up.

[Mandel]

If that. If this is a real thing.

[David Bore]

Hello. What's happening? Good to be here, man.

[Langston]

There it is.

[David Bore]

Man.

[Mandel]

Man, I'm out of here, man. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. Hey, hey. I'm out of here, man.

[Langston]

You just saw what I saw.

[Mandel]

Look, bro.

[Langston]

You just saw what I saw.

[Mandel]

I could not be present.

[Langston]

Go back. Go back. Just go back. Start from the beginning.

[David Bore]

Watch.

[Mandel]

What?

[Langston]

Just watch it. Don't take your eyes off of it. He is gonna lower his head and you are gonna see exactly what I've been seeing.

[Caller]

Bam.

[David Bore]

Right there.

[Langston]

You see what I'm talking about?

[Mandel]

God, dog.

[David Bore]

Here's what I'm saying. The camera's at the Apollo. It was a demon.

[Langston]

That's.

[David Bore]

That's.

[Mandel]

That's light reflection.

[David Bore]

You're saying bald?

[Langston]

I'm saying that it's not bald. I'm saying that this is.

[David Bore]

That's a thinning to a thickening.

[Langston]

This is when we're first thinning to a thickening.

[Mandel]

Him.

[Langston]

He does. He has zero opportunities before this.

[David Bore]

I think he got it thicker. I don't think that is. I don't think it's a piece. That's just a little bit of ball.

[Mandel]

I'm gonna say this, man. I'm gonna say this. It's a bald spot.

[Langston]

It's a bald spot.

[Mandel]

But that's going

[Langston]

be here. Look at that. That's gone, man.

[Mandel]

Hey, look. I'mma say this, man. That is a b spot.

[David Bore]

Yep.

[Mandel]

Steve Harvey is a cultural icon.

[Langston]

Both of those things can be true.

[Mandel]

Truly has and Truly has done so much entertainment wise. Kings of Comedy is my first introduction comedy. And he my grandmama favorite comedian. And with that I gotta lead this program.

[Langston]

You gotta leave, man. One more time for me.

[Mandel]

Like you Really, I really am. I really am hurt by this discussion.

[Langston]

Yeah, no, I, I, I expect that you will dream about it. Could you tell the people where they can find you what cool shit you got going on?

[Mandel]

Nah, man. Thank y' all for having me on again, man. It's fun. Man. That is crazy. Steve Harvey.

[Langston]

He really was bold.

[Mandel]

Because I was, I was willing to. I wouldn't die by that.

[Langston]

No, you really, you didn't want it to be true.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston]

Neither one of you wanted it to be true.

[Mandel]

This is all bad. Yeah, but I knew it's tough. Duh. Mandle, man. It's Big Fun Network. Thank y' all for being a part of Big Fun Network, man. And we gonna continue to really make excellent programming for all who want it.

[Langston]

All who want it.

[David Bore]

Boy. What you got, cool guy? Joke City7 on Instagram. That's it.

[Langston]

Follow us on the Patreon. Send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories to Mama. Give us a call at 844-LITTLE MOMS. Leave a voicemail. Pray to God they are more thoughtful voicemails and confusing giraffes and dinosaurs. But if that's what you call about, we accept it. We love you so much.

[David Bore]

Bye.

[Langston]

Bitch.

[Mandel]

Cassette Moms also too. Thank you to the My Mama Told Me universe, man. Very supportive of me, man.

[David Bore]

Tmu.

[Mandel]

I really appreciate everybody who watched this program. Cause they truly feel like a audience. I like to be a. Yeah, they cool people.

[Langston]

They're cool motherfuckers.

[David Bore]

All right.

[Langston]

Bye, bitch.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Mandel]

Microchips in your 80s. All koala bears are racist. The old home player. Oh, the money.