Ghost Ride The Face: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode (RE-RELEASE)

Summary

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My Momma Told Me – Ghost Ride The Face: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode (RE-RELEASE)

Host: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Released: October 30, 2025
Network: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively and irreverent mini-episode of My Momma Told Me, Langston Kerman and David Gborie dig deep into a listener email about “the hag”—a Southern Black folklore character believed to cause sleep paralysis by "riding your face" at night. They blend personal stories, cultural critique, and signature outrageous humor to explore whether supernatural sleep demons are real, imagined, sexually threatening, or perhaps even helpful in disguise. Along the way, the hosts riff on Black family folklore, the overlap of science and myth, and how belief shapes experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Email: Introducing the Hag

[03:34–06:58]

• The episode centers on an email from Lokia, a listener whose family migrated from the South to Philadelphia.
• She shares a story passed down from her mother and grandmother about “the hag,” a supernatural entity believed to attack people while they sleep—sitting on their chest or face and suffocating them if they sleep on their back.
• Details include:
  • The hag’s attacks occur during sleep paralysis—especially when one isn’t fully asleep yet.
  • She has a smell "sort of like raw meat."
  • The only escape is calling out for God or “pleading the blood of Jesus.”

2. “Riding the Face”: Sexual or Supernatural?

[07:07–08:23 & 11:10–12:22]

• David and Langston debate the sexual undertones of “the hag riding your face.”
  • David jokes, “I mean, I don’t feel like you’re eating her pussy, first of all.” (07:07)
  • Langston disagrees, seeing it more as a literal suffocation symbolism.
  • The back-and-forth exposes their comedic chemistry, and David doubles down: “It makes sense to me that a ghost is coming back trying to get hers.” (11:10)
• They unpack whether the story is about sexual violation or supernatural attack, repeatedly riffing on euphemisms and the unsettling "raw meat" smell.

3. Personal Experiences: Sleep Paralysis and the Paranormal

[07:36–09:47 & 23:13–24:00]

• Langston has never experienced true sleep paralysis, at least not in a scary way.
  • “I guess I’ve been very lucky that this isn’t like a common experience for me.” (09:47)
• David shares frequent episodes, including trying and failing to call out for help, interpreted as comically pathetic by his girlfriend.
  • “She said it sounded like I was like, ‘I can’t find you…’ So I guess she’s like, this bitch ass nigga having a dream.” (09:03)

4. The Hag as Metaphor—Culture, Belief, and Coping

[14:41–16:16 & 21:10–22:22]

• The hosts consider whether the hag is just a sleep disorder or a warning spirit.
  • David speculates the hag might have been protecting Lokia from her “sneaky boyfriend”: “Maybe the hag is his guardian angel and the hag is trying to get her away from him.” (14:41)
• Both agree that belief plays a powerful role: “Whether or not ghosts and demons actually exist…if you start to invest in them, they become real for you.” (21:55 – Langston)
• They discuss hesitation around Ouija boards and the brain’s tendency to make the supernatural manifest if you believe it.

5. The Hag Across Cultures & The Patriarchy

[23:30–25:43]

• David brings up legends of night hags across many cultures: “Isn’t it like dragons too though, where it’s one of those things that spans different cultures? … Those things like that do get me to think like, well, that’s—how did that happen?”
• Langston sees the hag as a patriarchal byproduct: “I think there’s evil women have existed in all cultures because of patriarchal standards I promote, would be my first guess.” (24:03)
  • They riff on cultural differences, with David joking, “Your crazy bitches wearing a grass skirt and my crazy bitch has on a hat. But they’re all crazy bitches, right?” (25:02)

6. Handling the Hag: Faith and Community

[26:56–29:26]

• Lokia’s (listener) story wraps up by emphasizing her mother’s belief that the hag appears in old or haunted houses, and how the solution—prayer—ties people back to their faith and community.
  • Langston: “Maybe this is a nice allegory for staying more connected to your faith in the community you believe in.” (29:00)
  • David: “If the solution for getting rid of the hag is to pray to the Lord that you serve, then that may make you feel more connected to that God and make you feel more assured that your path is the correct one.”

7. Outrageous, Memorable Closing Jokes

[29:26–30:07]

• The episode closes with the signature raunchy humor. David, still on his earlier riff about ghost sex, jokes: “And also, I prefer to do all my pussy eating on this plane if it’s good. Come on, baby.” (29:26)
• Langston and David trade lines about “plain old pussy,” “that meat smell is me,” and wrap up with tongue-in-cheek reminders of merch and live shows.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 04:52 | "My mother introduced me to the hag by demanding that I never sleep on my back. The story goes, if you lay on your back, the hag will sit on your face and try to suffocate you." | Langston (reading email) | | 07:13 | "I mean, I don't feel like you're eating her pussy, first of all." | David | | 09:03 | "She said it sounded like I was like, I can't find you… So I guess she's like, this bitch ass nigga having a dream." | David | | 09:47 | "It does feel like something very scary and very otherworldly. Because when I had it as a kid, you think you're about to die." | David | | 14:41 | "Maybe the hag is his guardian angel and the hag is trying to get her away from him." | David | | 21:55 | "Whether or not ghosts and demons actually exist…if you start to invest in them, they become real for you." | Langston | | 24:03 | "I think there's evil women have existed in all cultures because of patriarchal standards I promote would be my first guess." | Langston | | 29:00 | "Maybe this is a nice allegory for staying more connected to your faith in the community you believe in." | Langston | | 29:26 | "And also, I prefer to do all my pussy eating on this plane if it's good. Come on, baby." | David |

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Segment Timestamps

• [02:30] Show intro and email teaser
• [03:34] The hag—Black Southern folklore and Lokia’s story
• [07:07] Sexual vs. supernatural hag interpretations
• [09:03] David’s personal sleep paralysis account
• [14:41] Is the hag a warning spirit or protector?
• [21:55] How belief fuels supernatural experiences
• [23:30] Hags, dragons, and evil archetypes across cultures
• [26:56] Listener’s closing thoughts and faith’s role
• [29:26] Comedic, sexually-charged wrap-up and show plugs

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Tone & Style

• Unapologetically wild, hilarious, and deeply Black
• Candid, irreverent banter interspersed with genuine cultural analysis
• Flirts with vulgarity but always swings it back to thoughtful insight

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Summary

For listeners and new fans alike, this episode is a signature display of what My Momma Told Me does best: deconstructing Black conspiracy lore with humor, vulnerability, and a sharp eye for the deeper meanings hiding in old wives’ tales. The hosts balance the absurd and the profound—constantly pointing out how myths both comfort and torment, how shared stories build community, and how belief can conjure the very monsters we seek to banish.

Transcript

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[David]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Hunter]

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[Malcolm Gladwell]

Malcolm Gladwell here. This season on Revisionist History. We're going back to the spring of 1988, to a town in northwest Alabama where a man committed a crime and that would spiral out of control.

[Langston Kerman]

And he said, I've been in prison 24, 25 years. That's probably not long enough. I didn't kill him.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

From Revisionist History, this is the Alabama Murders. Listen to Revisionist History, the Alabama murders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Outro Voice]

Motherfuckin mini episode. Mini episode. Motherfuckin mini Episod.

[Langston Kerman]

La la la la la la la Bamba. There it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me the.

[David]

Podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we.

[Langston Kerman]

Finally work to prove the theories that you, the listener, have at home. It's a motherfucking mini episode.

[David]

Come on.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm Langston Kerman.

[David]

I have been swallowed up. Have you ever been swallowed up? Have you gone through a time of swallowing where everything was overwhelming? That was an accident. I'm David.

[Langston Kerman]

Boy, it felt like I crossed the train Track right before the train came and you got stuck behind.

[David]

That's exactly what it felt like. I was ready to try. Oh, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

I was like, oh, no, just stay, just stay. Yeah, yeah. That was a long on train too.

[David]

12 seconds of getting swallowed up.

[Langston Kerman]

We. We got an email. A hefty email, I would say big one. Big old thick bitch of an email from a person named Lokia. Lokia sent us a Lokia. I don't know where the accent mark lies. Do you feel confident either way?

[David]

Lokia.

[Langston Kerman]

Lokia.

[David]

I would say it's.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that feels right to me. So that's what we're gonna go with. They sent us an email saying, hello, Langston and David, I love your podcast. I was hooked after I stumbled on a clip about the true identity of the little mermaid being just a coon fish bitch. Damn.

[David]

Did I. Is that what I said? That's like almost word what you had said. Damn, you went crazy. It was great.

[Langston Kerman]

Damn. I gotta really reflect.

[David]

You really don't be watching these clips, huh?

[Langston Kerman]

Ready to sell out her kingdom over some duke Dick. That part I remember. I love the premises of the show. So American and yet so cotton picking black. This may be internalized racism. Anyway, my mother and grandmother were both born in the south before migrating to Philadelphia. Migrating. Yeah, I guess that's the right word.

[David]

I think so.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

There was a great migration.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I guess there's some maybe, probably problematic part of me that now treats that as a more international word than.

[David]

Oh, you think it's only for dirty Africans.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I'd say.

[David]

I see it in your face.

[Langston Kerman]

I'd say that's exactly what I was thinking the second that I started this sentence.

[David]

But you're one of us. You don't eat with your hands.

[Langston Kerman]

Man, I don't even get a chance to. To not be the worst guy, huh? You really just. Every time I even open up my heart, you go, I bet there's a deep, deep, hateful racist in there.

[David]

And that's not fair. You're a hero. You're a hero.

[Langston Kerman]

Continue.

[David]

You're a hero. I was, I was lashing out. It's not fair.

[Langston Kerman]

She says they have, they have so many stories about roots, real black magic, mysterious deaths and old wives tales. One of my top favorite tales is about the hag, capitalized H A G. My mother introduced me to the hag by demanding that I never sleep on my back. The story goes, if you lay on your back, the hag will sit on your face and try to suffocate you. It has happened to her on more than one occasion. She explains that she appears when you're in the state of sleep where you're not fully asleep yet, but the eyes are heavy. She also said you can smell her first, a smell of sort of like raw meat. One minute you're laying on your back, falling asleep, and the next moment you are suffocating and trying to force yourself awake. I am not crazy. I know this is. I know this is also explained as sleep paralysis, but here is the part that makes it a tale from the South. Once the hag is essentially right in your face, the only way to get her off of you is by calling for God or pleading the blood of Jesus.

[David]

Oh, you want me to say something?

[Langston Kerman]

I'm going to stop down just to give us a second to reflect before we take this a step further.

[David]

I mean, I don't feel like you're eating her pussy, first of all.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[David]

Is that not what she was saying?

[Langston Kerman]

I don't know that's what she's implying. And I don't know that you needed to be so defensive about it.

[David]

Is that not riding your face?

[Langston Kerman]

I think the writing, your face meant more just literally covering your face from breathing. But I don't know that it was literally like she forces sex on you. Mouth sex.

[David]

Okay, well, I. Okay, retracted. I have heard of this. I've heard of this before. Have you ever had sleep paralysis?

[Langston Kerman]

Not in a way that scared me, really, if I've had it, Because I've definitely felt, like, moments where I felt like I couldn't move my body. And I was not necessarily awake, eyes open, but awake enough that I was aware of. I am sleeping, but my arm won't move kind of vibes. But it was never. I've never had this shit where you're lying awake and a dude walks in the room and he is going to, you know, spiky baseball bat you to death kind of thing.

[David]

I mean, so I've had it a lot in my life. Like, I used to have it a lot as a kid, and I've had it quite a few times as an adult. It's never like that. It does feel like. Because sometimes your eyes are sort of open. So it does feel like there's a presence right outside of your, like, peripheral. But I mean, I just had it a few weeks ago and. Hold on one second, I'm going to ask.

[Langston Kerman]

This is exciting. I wonder if. Is he calling in a favor? What's going to happen?

[David]

Okay, I just. I had it a couple weeks ago, and I Was like trying to yell to my girl to help me. And she like, laughed because. She said it's. Because it's like, it feels like when you're trying to yell out. Yeah, you, like, are like muffled. So I thought I was screaming like, help me. And she. I guess she laughed. I guess I was just like. She said it sounded like I was like, I can't find you. I can't find you. So I guess she's like, this bitch ass nigga having a dream.

[Langston Kerman]

Is he like Verdora the Explorer? What's he doing?

[David]

But to me, I was like, help me, help me. But the point is, that shit's happened to me a lot of times, and especially as a kid, it does feel like something very scary and very otherworldly. Because when I had a. When you have it as a kid, you think you're about to die.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I. Again, I guess I've been very lucky that this isn't like a common experience for me. I. It would. It sounds haunting.

[David]

It's really terrible.

[Langston Kerman]

But.

[David]

Do you have sleep problems?

[Langston Kerman]

Not for the most part. I think my biggest problem now is like, I. My body is too trained to wake up early. So, like, no matter what now, I. My hours are just. I'm up at 6am basically, like. And that stinks. You know what I mean? Like, even on days where I be like, I'm gonna sleep in, I'm gonna like wake up and it's gonna be like midday. I can't fucking do it, really.

[David]

Damn. That does not make you feel young, huh?

[Langston Kerman]

No, not at all. And like, it also, I be wanting to stay up. You know what I mean? Like, I really be wanting to, like, I' ma have a long night in, kick it.

[David]

Like the old days.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And then I get to like 12, and I'm like, bro, I can't even do this no more. I don't want to be here like that.

[David]

All right, I get it. I get it though. I get it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I. I'm just washed, so. No, that's my biggest sleep issue. And yeah, it sounds terrifying. Especially if it were a hag. Just an old ghoulish monster sitting on your face. Sounds fucking crazy.

[David]

I mean, giving oral when it's not wanted in general is pretty terrible.

[Langston Kerman]

You're really still stuck on this just being. Eating their pussy.

[David]

I think that's what term is. And it makes sense to me that a ghost is coming back, trying to get hers.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. And she is a ghost. She's a ghost witch. Is.

[David]

Am I dying? She didn't say, I do understand the raw meat smell as well. You know, ghosts are.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I get it. You're talking about the smell of her ghost pussy or something.

[David]

I'm trying to pick up what she's putting down. You understand? This is what she said to us.

[Langston Kerman]

That she walks into that room, pussy first, and the smell, you go that smell, raw meat, ghost pussy.

[David]

And then you're like, I can't move. Oh no.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh shit. And then suddenly above your head is just a ghost pussy landing on your face. You have to eat it until you pray to Jesus. Yeah, all right, that's one interpretation of this.

[David]

I mean, let's continue on and see what happens in this, in this thing.

[Langston Kerman]

She says that here is my experience with the hag. Okay? She's a ghost pussy eater. It sounds like I was dating this man who was very sneaky. I was struggling to end.

[David]

That's a crazy way to describe it. That's not a funny way to describe it.

[Langston Kerman]

I was dating a sneaky motherfucker anyway.

[David]

Sneaky, sneaky man.

[Langston Kerman]

I was dating this man who was very sneaky. I was struggling to end the short term relationship and it was causing me issues with sleep. One night I was laying in the bed while he was in the shower. I started falling asleep instantly. I started having issues breathing and thought I opened my eyes to see a small demon looking back at me with her hands around my neck. I struggled for a few seconds listening to the demon taunt me with this cynical smirk on her face. I remember my mother's stories about a hag and started saying, lord have mercy and God help me. And the demon let up. She stared at me and then slowly slid off of my body and laid on the side of the bed that my boyfriend laid in. I told my mother about the incident and she said, get rid of your boyfriend. I did immediately because I don't fuck with no ghost. The incident never happened again. I also never slept on my back again out of fear of being face raped by another ghost bitch. Okay, okay, this is interesting. Here's what I'll. Where I'll give you credit, she does say face raped and that does imply the sexual context you were talking about. However, she talks about an experience with a hag that has nothing to do with face rape. No, that was.

[David]

She was trying to struggle.

[Langston Kerman]

Strangulation.

[David]

Yeah, this is scary too, because she saw her.

[Langston Kerman]

She saw her. And even scarier, the hag went and took a nap next to her afterwards.

[David]

Is the hag related to the cause? Ok, here's my question. Yeah, maybe she's not the hero that we think in this story. Maybe the hag is his guardian angel and the hag is trying to get her away from him.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, like the hag is like those ghosts that are scary but they're warning you type shit.

[David]

Yeah, maybe the hag is trying to. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

She warns you with a little bit of pussy in your face, and then you go, I gotta change shit. Bad pussy in your face. And you're like, man, I gotta work on me.

[David]

This bitch got a rat. What am I doing?

[Langston Kerman]

You sitting there, you're like, man, how did I get here? What?

[David]

It cannot be worth it.

[Langston Kerman]

What time is it?

[David]

Damn, there ain't no buses running. I gotta walk home now.

[Langston Kerman]

And for this shit I shouldn't have.

[David]

Done this, man smells like rat food in here.

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[Chrissy Teigen]

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[Bright Side Host]

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[Langston Kerman]

All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward. With a story.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[David]

Through she sheer persistence and nerve, this.

[Langston Kerman]

Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[David]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[Langston Kerman]

That y' all said.

[Hunter]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[David]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[David]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David]

So this is. This, this is. I don't even know what to say about this. That's scary.

[Langston Kerman]

Not as terrifying. I will say that her specific mention of the boyfriend stressing her out to the point of it disrupting her sleep does make it feel closer to a sleep paralysis issue than a literal like demon, ghost, witch issue.

[David]

I mean, maybe it's like six of one, half a dozen of the other when it's raining, you know. Yes, that is the water cycle. But also maybe God is hitting his wife.

[Langston Kerman]

That the devil. I don't think God's ever been accused of domestic violence, but maybe Big tell about me.

[David]

I get those two confused sometimes.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I think that's fair. I am a big subscriber to the belief that whether or not ghosts and demons actually exist, like all these sort of like paranormal things are real. I think if you start to invest in them, they become real for you. You know what I mean?

[David]

I think that's a really good point.

[Langston Kerman]

I think it's not. I've never fucked around with a Ouija board because I'm too afraid of what a Ouija board could open up inside of my spirit. And I don't want to start seeing stuff. So I'm good. Like I want to tempt the fates that way.

[David]

You'd rather open that door?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Because it very well could be real. And that's not my business. Or at least not business that I feel excited to explore.

[David]

Yeah, I, I, I agree with that. I mean, look, the brain is so powerful, right? If you were already worried about that, you know what I mean? She had already had that in her head. She was already in a place to see that, you know, maybe it manifested. I don't, I definitely don't. I don't tend to think in terms of the paranormal, but I definitely don't want to down it or anything like that. But it feels like if you were ever in a position to make for your brain to make this shit up, that was it.

[Langston Kerman]

Right?

[David]

Your sneaky foreign boyfriend, you want to get out because he's piping you down in the way that only a man from an island can. But he's sneaky, he's lying to you. Don't trust Him, He's a trickster.

[Langston Kerman]

You low key. A he. Loki.

[David]

Yeah, but I mean, so it's hard. And also having dealt, I can say personally I've experienced sleep paralysis. I never experienced a hag. But is it hags? Isn't it like dragons too though, where it's one of those things that spans different cultures? Like, I don't think it's regionally based. It's like all over the world. And those, those things like that do get me to think like, well, that's. How did that happen? You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

I think there's evil women have existed in all cultures because of patriarchal standards I promote would be my first guess.

[David]

Oh, that's okay. Good. That's a good way.

[Langston Kerman]

I think, I think I assume the.

[David]

Worst of you there. I'm sorry again.

[Langston Kerman]

You just presumed that I was saying these evil bitches.

[David]

I think I assumed. The funniest is all is what I said because I think you're a very funny guy. That's what it was.

[Langston Kerman]

I, I'm funny to a reasonable cut off man. I, I know what the, the funniest thing to say is. I also know the one that makes it hard for me to look the women in my life's eyes, you know, I mean, look them in their eyes again.

[David]

I get you. I get you.

[Langston Kerman]

I know when to chill the out. But, but sometimes I don't. I think the patriarchy is probably built a way for that to become a little bit of a game of telephone. Right. Where that's fair.

[David]

Every culture is like these crazy bitches.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. So like your crazy bitches wearing a grass skirt and my crazy bitch has on a hat. But they all, they're all crazy bitches, right?

[David]

Yeah, they all bleed once a month.

[Langston Kerman]

But. But I, I take your point that maybe there are probably some weird crossovers in the way that like Jesus exists in like every religion.

[David]

Right.

[Langston Kerman]

And sort of like culture, even when he is not identified as Jesus. A figure like him.

[David]

Right. Westernism and all that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Sort of around. I think some of this shit is just like, maybe it's. Maybe it's grounded in a level of truth that we don't recognize.

[David]

Yeah. Or a plane of consciousness that we don't quite understand. And you know, in that odd state, that's where you tap into that. I mean, I think all those things are possibilities.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, it does that. The way that's phrased then kind of makes me a little sad that I don't experience sleep paralysis.

[David]

No, it's awful.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it seems awful. But I'm saying that, like, if this in fact is a plane of consciousness that, like, I just will never get to experience, that, that makes me sad. I want to be able to know all the planes.

[David]

I mean, if there's one thing I have learned about planes of consciousness, there's ways to circumvent it. I'm sure it's just like, you also feel it if you eat a bunch of mushrooms on a boat. You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

Like, you can get there. I got you. Yeah, yeah.

[David]

Or like you take some DMT and you beat those crystal beings. Have you heard of that? Like the elves. And it's like, I don't really want to tip my hand to this.

[Langston Kerman]

I don't want to give away everything I'm going to be doing at these parties this summer.

[David]

Let's just say don't eat too many of the deviled eggs, because there's the devil in the eggs.

[Langston Kerman]

We got the final part of the email.

[David]

Oh, yeah, shit, I forgot there's one.

[Langston Kerman]

I guess I should add this detail. My mother said it usually happens in older houses or houses presumed to be haunted. Before this incident, my nephew had some type of interaction with a person who only he could see. Very strange story. I know. Your podcast is amazing. I enjoy every single episod episode. Creating spaces that promote community and safe space to have black ass conversations is important. And that's what your podcast feels like. Thank you, Lokia. Wow.

[David]

That's the nicest thing anybody's ever said to us about this podcast.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I didn't know that we were creating spaces. I thought. And I thought we were having antics. I thought we were performing shenanigans. But if that's the space that needs to exist, we're happy to make that.

[David]

I mean, much like all things I do in entertainment, I forget that anybody else listens to this.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

So sometimes. Because sometimes we'll put up clips and I'll be like, damn, I don't know if I want everybody to know I said that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, for sure. I think most importantly, what it sounds like she is saying is that, is that maybe there's a part of this that is connected to what we were saying about accepting spirits into your identity is why these people keep seeing them.

[David]

I think that. I agree. I think play stupid games, get stupid prizes, right?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David]

Ultimately it's like, keep knocking on the devil door, he's going to answer. I think there's a lot of trite sayings that all essentially say the same thing of like, you know, ask and ye. Shall receive.

[Langston Kerman]

And I think in a maybe not as much of saying you guys are making a bad choice and believing what you believe, because I don't want that to be the takeaway from this either. I'd say the reality is that maybe this is a nice allegory for staying more connected to your faith in the community that you believe in.

[David]

There you go.

[Langston Kerman]

If the solution for getting rid of the hag is to pray to the Lord that you serve, then that may make you feel more connected to that God and make you feel more assured that your path is the correct one. And that's nice. So while the hag is terrifying and I don't wish it upon you, I hope that the hag continues to serve you in the way that I guess it's built to.

[David]

And also, I prefer to do all my pussy eating on this plane if it's good. Come on, baby.

[Langston Kerman]

My man like plain old pussy, you.

[Bright Side Host]

Know what I mean?

[David]

You ain't gotta sit on my chest. You just gotta ask. I don't need that special smell, baby girl.

[Langston Kerman]

I like you all natural.

[David]

Ain't good. Smell wild in this room. And we're done regardless.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, nah, nah, sweetheart. That meat smell is me.

[David]

No hags in here, just this dick. It smell like raw meat. Cause I ain't got no condoms.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, come on, baby.

[David]

Oh, we just had a talk about going too far. We just talked about it.

[Langston Kerman]

We just talked about it. You want to tell the people where.

[David]

They can find you cool guy jokes. 87 on Instagram, as always, you can.

[Langston Kerman]

Follow me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms. Uh, you can watch everybody's in LA. It's going to be out May 3rd and then a bunch of days after that. It's six days. But it's. It's a very funny show that I got to write and contribute on. And then if you want to send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you yourself want to tell us exactly what the hack did to you, send it all to mymamapodmail.com come see us live May 5th at the Comedy Store in Los Angeles. Tickets are selling fast and we are running low. So we, we want you to be there and go ahead and make the right choice and knock out those additional tickets and then, like, subscribe. Do all the stuff that we need you to do in order for this to be a successful podcast. Merch@mymama told merchtable.com that's everything it has to be. Bye, bitching.

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[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[David]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

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[Hunter]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Malcolm Gladwell here. This season on Revisionist History. We're going back to the spring of 1988 to a town in northwest Alabama where a man committed a crime that would spiral out of control.

[Langston Kerman]

And he said, I've been in prison 24, 25 years. That's probably not long enough. I didn't kill him.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

From Revisionist History, this is the Alabama Murders. Listen to Revisionist History, the Alabama murders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hunter]

This is an iHeart podcast.