Homunculus for the Rest of Us (with Jamel Johnson)

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Momma Told Me – "Homunculus for the Rest of Us" (with Jamel Johnson)

Podcast: My Momma Told Me
Hosts: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Episode: Homunculus for the Rest of Us
Guest: Jamel Johnson
Release Date: November 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively episode dives into the Black conspiracy theory surrounding the government’s supposed attempts to create "homunculi" (small artificial humans)—in particular, the notion that mainstream society’s real plan is to "make niggas little." Through jokes, personal stories, and a surprising amount of historical research, Langston, David, and their guest Jamel Johnson explore the myth’s roots, its cultural echoes, and how Black folks have interpreted and passed down these ideas. The result is a fun and insightful banter about suspicion, folklore, and the places where sci-fi meets street wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebration and Banter ([01:48]–[11:00])

• The hosts and Jamel celebrate the podcast reaching #1, riffing on their “DraftKings bets” and trading jokes about pirates, Hollywood representation, and dancehall culture.
  • Memorable riffing on alternate versions of “Pirates of the Caribbean” and the lack of Black pirates in Hollywood ([03:23], [04:27], [05:13]).
  • Quote: “I think it's 'cause he was Black... Tom Cruise was excommunicating all the little [guys]” – Langston ([06:16]).
• Jamel’s hilarious T-shirt with an ambiguous date and MLK that “looks like KD,” sparking jokes about cultural identity in Black apparel ([09:16]–[10:35]).

2. The Origin of the Homunculus Conspiracy ([11:07]–[15:30])

• Jamel shares his personal connection: His mother used to warn him that "they trying to make niggas little," a variant on the homunculus myth.
  • For years he thought she was warning him about getting "humongous" until he realized she meant the opposite ([15:03]).
  • Quote: “She would say they was trying to make niggas little. Not like little niggas, but average-sized niggas, little niggas.” – David ([12:21])
  • Connection to foods and brands ("no Chick-fil-A sauce, no bang bang"—lest you become a homunculus) ([13:09]).
• Discussion of maternal folklore and family conspiracy culture: The impossibility of challenging or tracing the source (“You can’t press her... that's just who you are.” – Langston, [16:08]).

3. What Is a Homunculus? Competing Definitions ([19:35]–[24:00])

• Pop culture vs. folk belief:
  • Langston’s touchstone is Fullmetal Alchemist (anime), where homunculi are artificial humans but not necessarily smaller ([19:37]).
    • Quote: “They’re not little people—they’re abnormal humanoid creatures... some of them quite sexy.” – Langston ([21:44])
  • Jamel’s family version: just “littler Black people.”
• Jokes about the “downsized” version: Running gag—“the dick is still regular size,” which the group finds both troubling and unintentionally flattering ([23:08]–[23:36]).
  • Quote: “Everybody's meat looks bigger if they cut six inches off the top of their head.” – Jamel ([23:27])

4. Visual Tropes and Satirical Commentary ([24:03]–[26:44])

• Jamel presents images (for the YouTube version):
  • An old, racist caricature of a “homunculus” with exaggerated features ("Looks like a drawing on a bathroom wall" – Jamel, [24:24]; “3 parts remain the same: big old hands, big old meat, and big old lips.” – Langston, [24:33])
• Comparison to 90s streetwear mascots: The “School of Hard Knocks” logo resembling the folk homunculus ([25:01]).
  • Quote: “There’s already a couple of homunculus in the hood... a couple niggas fell through the fine print.” – David ([25:04]–[25:21])
• Cultural rejection: Why Black folks never embraced certain brands that trafficked in such racist imagery.

5. Homunculus in History and Alchemy ([30:34]–[38:32])

• Langston provides researched context:
  • Originates from Latin for “little parts,” later “small artificial human being” ([31:58]–[32:04]).
  • Cites Paracelsus (16th c. alchemist) recipes: “Putrefy sperm in a sealed vessel for 40 days, then implant in a horse’s womb...[and] a living human child...but much smaller” ([34:04]–[35:27]).
    • Reaction: The group jokes (and recoils) at the “putrefied nut, horse womb” methods, agreeing Paracelsus “just wanted to fuck a horse” ([35:31]–[36:08]).
  • Alchemy as more fiction than science: “It’s like time travel”—wild ideas but not real methods ([37:17]–[37:23]).
• Purpose: To create special servants—“carnival slaves”—and more controllable, expendable workers ([38:10]–[38:39])

6. Modern Parallels & Russian "Experiments" ([39:19]–[44:41])

• Viral video hoax: The Russian “injecting sperm into a chicken egg” (debunked as a hoax) ([42:32]–[42:59]).
• Reflection on origins: Why would anyone want more bodies? They joke now, “we already have enough crash dummies—people will self-identify as them for YouTube views” ([44:04]–[44:13]).
• Space race angle: Tongue-in-cheek suggestion that homunculi would be useful as tiny astronauts ([44:23]).

7. AI as Digital Homunculus ([45:07]–[47:00])

• Langston’s insight: “AI is homunculus shit”—we’re “fabricating humanity” in new forms ([45:07])
  • Quote: “We’re just watching it...making a not-real person eat spaghetti.” – Langston ([45:28]–[45:32])
• Social media critique: Group shares frustration with “fake” content (AI-generated movie posters), the feeling of being manipulated into engagement ([46:07]–[47:41]).

8. Listener Voicemail: "White People Decompose Faster" ([55:31]–[63:32])

• Listener voicemail: Black belief that “white people have funerals faster because they decompose quicker” ([55:31]).
  • The hosts confirm—Black families often take weeks for funerals, joking about long waits for headstones and “black preservatives” ([57:23]–[58:07]).
  • Funeral homes as exploiters: Industry upcharges, particularly in Black communities ([60:06])
  • Jokes comparing funeral packaging to “all that paper in a McDonald's” Uber Eats order ([63:06]).
• Conclusion: Fun and poignant wrap-up, calling out how poverty and resources—rather than race or biology—explain differences in funeral timing ([61:58]–[62:25]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “They trying to make niggas little. Not like little niggas, but average-sized niggas little niggas.”
  – David Gborie ([12:21])
• “Everybody's meat looks bigger if they cut six inches off the top of their head.”
  – Jamel Johnson ([23:27])
• “AI is just humunculus shit. We are fabricating humanity…”
  – Langston Kerman ([45:07])
• “Carnival slaves...they try and make carnival slaves out of nigga.”
  – David Gborie ([38:34])
• On funeral homes:
  “Industry probably one of the most racist, right up there with car sales.” — David ([60:06])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [11:07] – Jamel introduces the “making niggas little” conspiracy from his mother
• [19:37] – Comparing anime’s homunculus to the folk version
• [24:03] – The racist visual tropes of the homunculus
• [30:34] – Alchemic origins and methods for creating a homunculus
• [38:34] – Discussion of “carnival slaves” as homunculus utility
• [42:32] – Russian “chicken egg” hoax story
• [45:07] – The AI parallel: digital artificial humans
• [55:31] – Voicemail: “white people decompose faster” folklore unpacked

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Closing & Recommendations

The episode closes with the group agreeing that while no government is actually making “homunculi,” the urge to control and diminish Black people is real and manifests in subtler ways—and that every community has that “one little guy” that might just be the escaped homunculus the world could never bottle up ([51:14]). The episode finishes with shoutouts, social media info, and loving appreciation for their weird, wonderful audience.

If you want a blend of laughter, folklore, social critique, and creative Black conspiracy history, this is an unmissable listen.

Transcript

[Langston Kerman]

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[Jamel Johnson]

My mama told me. Number one, the podcast usa.

[Langston Kerman]

That's right. We just hit number one.

[Jamel Johnson]

Number one, Sterling K. Brown likes it. We're going to the moon.

[David Bore]

Come on. You guys is here. Finally. I knew this day would come. I bet on y' all on DraftKings.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, man, thank you.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, man, it's been a tough couple of years for that bet.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Nah, also because if no one did, they were gonna break our legs.

[David Bore]

But it didn't trash out. You know what I'm saying? They never pulled it. The ticket was still active.

[Jamel Johnson]

The Draft Kings and the Queens were going to kill us.

[David Bore]

We up, man. Don't worry about it now.

[Jamel Johnson]

They have his family.

[Langston Kerman]

They do have my family.

[David Bore]

All right, well, we'll. I guess you should worry about that.

[Langston Kerman]

The draft queens are pretty scary. Microchips in your anus.

[Jamel Johnson]

All koala bears are racist.

[Langston Kerman]

The ozone layer Owes me money, marshy.

[David Bore]

To vennet Turkey stuff y' all can't tell me.

[Jamel Johnson]

Smooth, just like a silka Soft and cuddly help me up like a quilt I'm a lyrical lover. I take from me no filth with me Sexual physique, you know me well built. How's this in a booster? Boo Bostic the other day, when you.

[David Bore]

Do it, it sound like Pirates of the Caribbean.

[Jamel Johnson]

I like it better that way.

[David Bore]

Sound like Treasure island when you do it.

[Jamel Johnson]

I didn't know how to do it when it came in. I didn't have a plan. I was sure. The Black Pearl.

[David Bore]

Be closer.

[Jamel Johnson]

Boombustic Reggae fantastic. Yeah.

[David Bore]

I got the night manager at Long John Silver Skull crazy. He went there, dog. When the shift change, go.

[Langston Kerman]

He had character to the rescue.

[Jamel Johnson]

Hey, to be fair, pirates are in the Caribbean.

[Langston Kerman]

They are in the Caribbean.

[Jamel Johnson]

Reggae pirates. Not like a crazy jump.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it isn't.

[David Bore]

They gotta be down there. Oh, my God.

[Langston Kerman]

And I think we should stop.

[David Bore]

Big dance hall, guys.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

He's a rookie, boy. Yeah, they. Damn. Yeah, it sure is.

[Langston Kerman]

Yo.

[Jamel Johnson]

Reggae pirates. Now I'm never gonna knock them out.

[Langston Kerman]

I really think they did us a disservice by not including that in the films.

[Jamel Johnson]

Reggae.

[David Bore]

Oh, sure.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. No, just reggae pirates. Should have been in the Pirates of the Caribbean.

[Jamel Johnson]

One of the ships.

[Langston Kerman]

They're not based on anything.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, that's a good point. You could have a black ship, motherfucker.

[Langston Kerman]

Use your imagination.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, that would be fun.

[David Bore]

You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

There was no Jack Sparrow.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Now give us Shaggy.

[Jamel Johnson]

They're making jerk on the boat, bro. They got drills and steel drums. Yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

That should have been a part of it.

[David Bore]

That would have been cool.

[Langston Kerman]

Keira Knightley should have had to twerk some.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

Get out of a sticky situation.

[Langston Kerman]

Get out of something nasty.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. For Captain Lockbeard.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Orlando Bloom doing the heel toe.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Trying to escape.

[Langston Kerman]

She should have had to get daggered off the top ropes like them girls from the videos.

[Jamel Johnson]

And then the captain's like, more fire, more fire.

[Langston Kerman]

And then, like, she can take a pounding.

[David Bore]

Oh, my God.

[Langston Kerman]

My God. This woman could take a pounding. She's one of us. Yeah, I think that should have been in the movies. It sucks that they want the Caribbean.

[David Bore]

Nigga from Living Single. I just see he would have been perfect for this. The lead pirate. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

T.C.

[Jamel Johnson]

Carson. The main T.C.

[Langston Kerman]

Carson.

[David Bore]

I'm talking to the other. No, the music nigga. The nigga with the scooter.

[Jamel Johnson]

What was his name in real life?

[David Bore]

That was the Other. That was the black lightning nigga. I'm talking about the.

[Langston Kerman]

You're talking about the dude that replaced T.C. carson?

[David Bore]

Nah, that's the light skinned nigga. I'm talking about the nigga who was working at Flavor, bro. And he started. He started to strike.

[Jamel Johnson]

Little assistant.

[David Bore]

The little dude.

[Jamel Johnson]

Little guy.

[David Bore]

He used to rock. Yeah, he used to rock the Scullies, man. He was the music editor.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, I liked him.

[David Bore]

That would have been. This was supposed to be his. His Mr. Holland's opus.

[Langston Kerman]

And that's the problem with Hollywood is that they don't imagine Mr. Holland's opus for us. You know what I mean? Like, they should have looked at that, man, and they should have saw a vision. They should have said, have we got the role for you, little fella? And instead they casted him out of Hollywood.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, I think it's cause he was little. He was real little, remember?

[Langston Kerman]

I think it's cause he was black.

[David Bore]

I think it's cause he was black and. Cause Tom Cruise was little. Mm. Tom Cruise was excommunicating all the little. Yeah, he said everybody little gotta step off.

[Jamel Johnson]

He cleaned out little Hollywood.

[David Bore]

You gotta go work at the amusement park. That's mine.

[Jamel Johnson]

Now you live in little Tidewater. Whoa. Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

There aren't a lot of little guys in Hollywood.

[Jamel Johnson]

Not like there used to. It used to be all little guys.

[David Bore]

Kevin Hart was the first. He's the first one to come back.

[Jamel Johnson]

Cause it's.

[David Bore]

And it took him a long, dawg. Tom Cruise tried to get him out the way multiple times. Tom Cruise tried to get around multiple times.

[Jamel Johnson]

I know that you have. I know that you have a conspiracy that you brought, but maybe this is where we.

[David Bore]

He was on a lot of directions.

[Langston Kerman]

He said it as if we were like, well, of course, yes, we know.

[Jamel Johnson]

Obviously Tom Cruise has been trying to.

[Langston Kerman]

Get assassination attempts that Tom Cruise has had.

[David Bore]

Come on, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

That would be a crazy beef. Cause I don't know who would win.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, Tom Cruise.

[David Bore]

It could go. It could go 12 rounds. It could go the distance.

[Langston Kerman]

Kevin's really strong. He's strong. All power to him. But I do think that Tom Cruise lives with a mania that is hard to match.

[David Bore]

It's going the distance. I don't know who winning either, but it's going 12 rounds.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's decisions. It's decisions.

[Langston Kerman]

Remember, at the very least, Tom Cruise will jump out of a building, right?

[Jamel Johnson]

And that's.

[David Bore]

You gotta.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Cause then what do you do with it?

[Langston Kerman]

How do you fight against somebody that when push comes to shove, will Pull you with him out of a building.

[Jamel Johnson]

He's ready to die.

[Langston Kerman]

He's ready to die.

[Jamel Johnson]

Maybe. Do you think that maybe sometimes doing his own stunts is him, like, low key, trying to die? Like, drinking yourself to death? If it happens, it happens.

[Langston Kerman]

I think that's all it is.

[David Bore]

Absolutely.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, okay. I thought there was gonna be pushback.

[Langston Kerman]

Cool.

[Jamel Johnson]

No, no.

[David Bore]

Yeah, man. He's been trying to kill himself for the past four or five mission impossibles.

[Jamel Johnson]

Mission Impossible 10. Run it this time. I eat a bunch of suicide pills. I eat a bunch of cyanide. That's the. The riff fell apart at the end. But it was good at the beginning. Yeah, it was good at the beginning.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, you did great.

[David Bore]

I'll give you like a 85% on it. That's cool.

[Jamel Johnson]

That'd be good.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, I think you did good.

[David Bore]

That's a solid. That' in every school.

[Langston Kerman]

I think we should introduce our guest. I think we couldn't be happier he's here. You already heard his sweet dulcet tones. He's the hilarious comedian that we've grown to love in so many ways. One of our favorites. You know him from his own film memes and nightmares on Hulu. You know him from Comedy Central. You know him from the Brandon Jamel Show. You know him from all hilarious things. Give it up for Jamel Johnson.

[David Bore]

What's good?

[Jamel Johnson]

My rhymes are fly.

[David Bore]

My beats are sick.

[Jamel Johnson]

My crew is big, and it keeps getting bigger. That's cause Jesus Christ is my nigga.

[David Bore]

Hi, guys. How y' all boys doing? Everybody good? I got a little something to show you guys. I was gonna wear it, but I seen how y' all do y' all camera angle. It's no point. It don't. It's like a little small, so I didn't want mine. But this is the blackest T shirt in my house, and I need a little help figuring out the date.

[Langston Kerman]

Cause listen, strong men keep on coming, coming, coming.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay, they spelled coming wrong. First of all.

[David Bore]

Depending on who you ask, pimp.

[Jamel Johnson]

That was pretty good.

[David Bore]

Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

First glance, How'd you try? You can't stop us now.

[Jamel Johnson]

February 27th to the 28th, that's Nelson Mandela. I did think that was Harriet Tubman for a second.

[David Bore]

See what I'm saying?

[Langston Kerman]

Listen, that's something for a second first glance.

[David Bore]

You think Million Man March, which the anniversary was yesterday for y' all boys, but that, see, that's October. Yeah, this is February.

[Jamel Johnson]

With the last February 27th and 8th.

[David Bore]

I have to assume this is an event in Gary, Indiana. If Anybody could tell me.

[Jamel Johnson]

I think this actually might be the premiere party from Belly.

[David Bore]

Ooh. Cause if you. Ok. Hey, you know.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what's funny? That's the most Kevin Durant, Martin Luther King has ever looked.

[David Bore]

Let me see how it looks.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Where'd you get. Did you get this at PG Plaza?

[David Bore]

That's why you look like kd, bro.

[Langston Kerman]

That is KD if I've ever seen him.

[David Bore]

Yeah, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

The camera. So they can really analyze.

[David Bore]

Yeah. Let's get a.

[Langston Kerman]

You really want to.

[David Bore]

Cause I tried to go to your camera.

[Langston Kerman]

Cause that's a wide. Go to your camera over here.

[David Bore]

Boom.

[Langston Kerman]

Straight there. Yeah, that's.

[David Bore]

See what I'm saying, guys?

[Langston Kerman]

You're going to want to go right there.

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah. I got this.

[Jamel Johnson]

Where do you usually wear that? Like, just around the house.

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah. Listen, I might hit the court with this.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay. You know what I'm saying?

[David Bore]

I might do something like that.

[Langston Kerman]

That's intimidating.

[David Bore]

I might just go on a little taco run.

[Langston Kerman]

A brother who knows his history this well, he gonna know the game even more.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

You know, I know where the ball gonna fall. You know, I'm getting every rebound.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's mind and body.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, I get that. They connected 100% get that.

[Langston Kerman]

How do they connect? Show me again. Okay.

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah, right there.

[Langston Kerman]

Jamel, we're very happy you're here. You came to us with a conspiracy theory that we talked about ahead of time, but as soon as we talked about it, you said, no, I believe in this.

[David Bore]

Yeah. Because honestly, I was like, you get asked to do the show, and the person I'm emailing with is like, what conspiracy theory you got? And I'm blanking. I'm, like, hitting the J.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, yeah, I got a. I've heard.

[David Bore]

A million of these.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[David Bore]

I believe all of them. What's up? And I'm like, blanking. And I'm like, I text you guys, and as soon as you sent your list, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. Not only was I like, I agree with this. And then I did the research. I needed this conversation with you all to even find out what it was called. Cause when my mama told me, she just said they was trying to make niggas little. Oh, she never used the name.

[Jamel Johnson]

That's hilarious.

[Langston Kerman]

This coming from her mom is crazy.

[David Bore]

Yeah. You know they trying to make niggas little. Let's this what she used to say.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. Now I'm excited to say you heard his heart, my baby. The fact that this came from home is so nuts. But you said, my mama told me the government is making homunculi.

[David Bore]

Trying to create a homunculus or.

[Jamel Johnson]

Say it how he said it, please.

[David Bore]

Or they're trying to make niggas little. They're not trying to make little niggas.

[Langston Kerman]

That's already.

[David Bore]

They're trying to make average sized niggas little niggas.

[Jamel Johnson]

The royal niggas, littler niggas.

[David Bore]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

I can't afford that, bruh.

[David Bore]

For years. Like, she would either be like that or she would be like, humongous. And I ain't know what she meant. Cause my mom saying it in the house. You got any of them moms? Y' all moms, like, don't know the names of anything.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

Mom's one of them moms. You know I got you. Cause it always centered around, like, it's always some food stuff. That's why we stopped putting foil on the girls. You're like, stop using that foil. They gonna make you homunculus. No foil on the grill. We stopped using, like. We stopped having any sauce. Any sauce that's got, like, a name brand to it.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

No Chick Fil A sauce. No bang bang.

[Jamel Johnson]

Because of humongous.

[David Bore]

They gonna try to make me humongous. This was what my mama said to me.

[Jamel Johnson]

First of all, that laugh is nasty.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it's so fun. I'm having a great time.

[David Bore]

Humongous, dog. But I'm like. I don't even know what you talking about. You know, I'm just thinking, just general, like, whatever, Mom.

[Langston Kerman]

I just. I was hoping to put Chick Fil A sauce on my Chick Fil A nuggets.

[Jamel Johnson]

Now you gotta sneak it. Were you sneaking in the fridge?

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not bringing the trash in the house.

[Jamel Johnson]

And you got poly sauce under your back.

[Langston Kerman]

She's making you be a bad son, and that's not fair to you.

[David Bore]

Sure. You know what I'm saying? But honestly, y' all help me put it all together. I ain't. Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

Do you have any idea where your mom got this? Cause she seems pretty deep.

[David Bore]

Honestly, no clue. I could only assume the Dunbar housing projects is where she got that one.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[David Bore]

You know what I'm saying? Mid-80s, OK. That's where that theory is began. I can only assume Columbia Heights Metro Station.

[Langston Kerman]

The unfortunate thing with racism in this country is it took our histories from us. And maybe you could have traced the humongous back generation after generation. But instead, you have to stop at your mom.

[Jamel Johnson]

That's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

And that's why I wasn't feeling. I'm like, what is this even based off? What is you talking about?

[Langston Kerman]

Damn.

[Jamel Johnson]

Was this like a lifelong. Was there a point where she started interjecting it? Or is this like as far back as you can remember?

[David Bore]

There was a. I feel like it was like this, like high school. This, like when she was like.

[Jamel Johnson]

But you had to take foil off the grill. That's big.

[David Bore]

It was. And it was in. I think it was connected to a change in income. You know, My parents is doing a little better.

[Langston Kerman]

Mm.

[David Bore]

We start going to Costco. My mom like, hey, stop grabbing all that stuff. That's gonna make you humongous. You know what I'm saying? Like, you gonna end up humong. And you keep eating them goddamn samples.

[Jamel Johnson]

And it's crazy. Cause it sounds like humongous.

[David Bore]

I'm. Boy.

[Jamel Johnson]

And that's what you probably thought.

[David Bore]

That's what I was thinking.

[Jamel Johnson]

She's like, mom. You're like, mom doesn't want me to have the best foods, mayonnaise or whatever, Right? Because she don't want me to get humongous.

[Langston Kerman]

She didn't want me to get humongous.

[Jamel Johnson]

The opposite.

[David Bore]

It was the opposite. Cause I'm like, what do you mean, Mom? I've been humongous. Like, what's up? And she like, I'm talking about the other way. They try to make niggas little. Quit eating that stuff. You drinking that shit. They trying to make you. They trying to make your big ass little.

[Langston Kerman]

I have a number of follow up questions. First and foremost, what is she afraid of with making niggas li. What is the plan?

[David Bore]

You know what?

[Langston Kerman]

Making niggas live.

[David Bore]

I think that the. See, and it's like, the truth is I need to talk to my mom more about this.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[David Bore]

Cause I'm only putting pieces together. Cause it's one of them things. I'm just letting her say it. And I'm like, you got it, mom.

[Jamel Johnson]

I ain't really.

[David Bore]

I ain't fully challenging.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's still your mom. What are you doing?

[David Bore]

It's still your mom. What am I gonna do?

[Jamel Johnson]

You can't press her.

[Langston Kerman]

That's the hardest part about. I think being just a son of a lady is like, you can't. There's not a lot you can do. You know what I mean? Like, you can't just be like you're backwards and wrong.

[David Bore]

Like, it's just. Yeah, that ain't gonna work.

[Langston Kerman]

That's just who you are.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's not even a possibility. No, you just You're a person who believes that if you swallow gum, you die. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And. And I am a person who believes that I have to keep you alive. So.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, when me and my brothers all three unpacked, that we had told. She had told us all that at separate times in our lives. Crazy experience.

[Langston Kerman]

That's hard.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Or maybe cathartic.

[Jamel Johnson]

It was like, together.

[David Bore]

I remember. Hard, positive. We were like.

[Jamel Johnson]

We were on Haight street in San Francisco. And I remember. I was like, man. I remember when I was little, mom said. Mom said, if I swallow gum, I die. And the other two were like. Yeah. She said that to us at different times. Whoa. And I don't know where she got it, but that's. That's for a different day.

[Langston Kerman]

That's almost like when you find out that you really are brothers.

[Jamel Johnson]

No, I've never had that experience.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, you don't.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, oh, oh, oh. I thought. Okay, I'm sorry.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, in a connecting way.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Where you just go, no, we're. Damn. We're brothers.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. I thought you meant like a. Like a. Like a. Like a funny movie kind of situation.

[Langston Kerman]

No, no, no. I wasn't speaking to a Mamma Mia type.

[Jamel Johnson]

Is that what happened in that movie?

[Langston Kerman]

Mamma Mia is about a white woman, buddy.

[David Bore]

I was just thinking about this movie. Go ahead, continue.

[Langston Kerman]

A white woman who has a white child. I don't know why I'm making her race so specific. There's white people.

[Jamel Johnson]

I thought they were Greek.

[David Bore]

Well, now they in Europe with it. That's why you think they Greek with it.

[Langston Kerman]

They're European. And it's by the beach.

[Jamel Johnson]

That's Greece.

[David Bore]

Yeah, that's all Greece.

[Langston Kerman]

They're playing it loose for what that area is. But she's. She.

[David Bore]

You can call it Turkey if you want. That's Greece. That's how I agree. I agree.

[Jamel Johnson]

Is Papa Pia in that movie?

[Langston Kerman]

No, there's no Papa Pia. Thank you for asking.

[David Bore]

Ok.

[Langston Kerman]

It's based off of a song. That's why it's called Mamma Mia.

[David Bore]

So.

[Jamel Johnson]

Is what I'm saying.

[David Bore]

Oh, man.

[Langston Kerman]

And in the movie, she has a kid, the kid gets old enough to wonder who her dad is, and then it's three dudes who are, like, up for grabs for who could be her father.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay. None of which are Papa Pia. They really missed.

[Langston Kerman]

They did not call him Papa Pia.

[Jamel Johnson]

They really missed out on him.

[David Bore]

But I was thinking, when is. How do we get our Mamma Mia off the ground? Oh, Mamma Mia. X.

[Langston Kerman]

Let's Go.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yo, you're going nuts.

[David Bore]

What do we do? Mamma Mia X. I was thinking about this yesterday. How do we get to Mamma Mia X?

[Jamel Johnson]

Monopolize her on everything we see.

[David Bore]

This is a good start. These are the first blocks.

[Jamel Johnson]

Make them say Mamma Mia X. Yeah.

[David Bore]

It could work. It could work on multiple platforms. Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

Tubi, I think, is what jumps out first, for sure.

[David Bore]

But to answer your question, you weren't.

[Langston Kerman]

Going to HBO with this one.

[David Bore]

That was the. Yeah, no, not yet.

[Jamel Johnson]

We pitch where we think we have a landing first, and then if that doesn't work, we go to the.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, we still reach.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, we still reach out.

[Langston Kerman]

We still reach out.

[David Bore]

Answer your question, though. I'm pretty sure white people is trying to make us all humunculous. Really?

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[Jamel Johnson]

I think they would love it if.

[David Bore]

We was all little. They would love it if we was all little, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

They would love it if we were all little.

[David Bore]

And they got a thousand different ways they trying to get it. You know what I'm saying?

[Jamel Johnson]

Everything but making us physically littler. Yeah, they try to. Mentally, emotionally, all those other. But you're right that I'm in.

[David Bore]

They don't want to. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what's fascinating for me is that my framing of Humunculus, the first time I heard the word was from Fullmetal Alchemist, which is an anime that I. It's my favorite anime, arguably, of all time.

[Jamel Johnson]

What about Yu. Yu Hakusho? Yu.

[Langston Kerman]

Yu Hakusho's up there for me, but.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay. I haven't paid attention.

[Langston Kerman]

Fullmetal's my. My. My number one.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay. I haven't watched any of these, but.

[Langston Kerman]

And you never will.

[Jamel Johnson]

I might. I might pull up on you one day and be like, hey, I was.

[David Bore]

Bro, you might want to pop out for a couple of these, bro. I like what he said.

[Langston Kerman]

I think Full Metal would really.

[Jamel Johnson]

You think I'd like it?

[Langston Kerman]

I think it would do something for you.

[David Bore]

You would love it because I know you've eaten acid before.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[David Bore]

And Full Metal Alchemist is the most. Oh, damn. I just ate some acid.

[Langston Kerman]

It's.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's tight.

[David Bore]

You feel me?

[Langston Kerman]

It really is, like. It's mostly about, like, the existence or the possibility of God and humans interaction with God. Like, it's. It's far more, like, complicated and messy than it is, like, a hero's journey of, like, good. Good versus evil.

[Jamel Johnson]

I thought it was talking about turning base metal into gold.

[Langston Kerman]

It's.

[David Bore]

But that's like, a little piece.

[Langston Kerman]

It's a little piece.

[Jamel Johnson]

So Humongous.

[Langston Kerman]

It's about alchemy, okay? And alchemy in this world is like being able to create magic essentially from, like, a certain science. Like, alchemy is science in this world. And it very much allows them to, like, turn a piece of scrap metal into a sword or, like, turn fucking like wind into fire by snapping their fingers type shit or a piece of.

[David Bore]

Paper into a tab of lsd.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, you're really on that ass.

[Jamel Johnson]

I have other hobbies.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, but just in case you don't and you want to fuck around, it's a very good show. But point being, that was my first reference for a homunculus. And in that show, they are not little people. They're not framed as, like, small. They're framed as sort of like these abnormal humanoid creatures that are created. Weirdly proportioned, for sure, but still humanoid. Some of them's quite sexy in the show. And intentionally.

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[David Bore]

They're homunculus.

[Langston Kerman]

They got some baddies up in there.

[Jamel Johnson]

That's the only thing I would. Cause they don't want us to be finer.

[Langston Kerman]

That's where it does.

[Jamel Johnson]

You want us to be littered.

[David Bore]

And that's why they won't really fully unleash the ultimate plan. Cause they haven't figured out how to make us not fun.

[Jamel Johnson]

Because here's the thing.

[David Bore]

No matter what size, we still banging.

[Jamel Johnson]

Cause I feel like if you take me and you put it all smaller now, it's super fine.

[David Bore]

Yeah. Cause it's easier for us to grow waves. Like, it's easier to maintain the waves when you.

[Jamel Johnson]

That size fine is condensed. It's like concentrated orange juice.

[Langston Kerman]

Now it's like a fine pressure cooker.

[Jamel Johnson]

Exactly. Compressor bust pipes and nuts.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, you leave that in the middle of Times Square, that's dangerous.

[Jamel Johnson]

Everybody's getting pregnant.

[David Bore]

They outside the Eminem store acting foolish. Yeah, it's true, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

So you, from the beginning, understand whom uncle is to be a little. A shrunken version of human. Is there anything else about humunculus that stands out? Like, was your mother describing any other traits of a homunculus other than just downsized?

[David Bore]

Yeah, just the downsizedness. Just the littleness. In the research, I'm sure you guys have seen in your research, there is one very particular.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, big dicks.

[David Bore]

The dick is still regular size, which is. Which my mom did not bring up.

[Jamel Johnson]

But that it didn't come up because the problem is. That's also a help.

[Langston Kerman]

It doesn't hurt.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's like you worry that they're trying to make Us better.

[Langston Kerman]

It certainly doesn't hurt.

[Jamel Johnson]

Everybody's meat looks bigger if they cut six inches off the top of their head.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

Off the top of their.

[David Bore]

Yeah, off the top of my skull. It could buy a grain.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Cut my head off. My shit'll look. My shit'll look crazy if I ain't had nothing on top of this. Damn.

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't even notice he ain't have no heads.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's the most distracting thing from my meme.

[Langston Kerman]

So for you, it was just this shrunken thing. But you did show. You sent us an image, which, if you don't mind holding it up for the camera, and we'll send it to.

[Jamel Johnson]

Justin so he can put it up.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, we'll make sure that it's edited in. But you sent us an image that I would say lives in my dreams. Maybe always is. Safe to say.

[David Bore]

Look at the loop, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, I'm trying to find.

[David Bore]

Look at my son, man.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's the one. Just all hog.

[David Bore]

This is how, you know the government is involved.

[Jamel Johnson]

That looks like a drawing on a bathroom wall.

[Langston Kerman]

And it feels deeply racist.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, for sure. Why? His lips are as big as his.

[Langston Kerman]

Me. Yeah, it's the 2.

[David Bore]

3.

[Langston Kerman]

3 parts remain the same. His big old hands, because they were like, nah, you still gonna do work. And the big old meat and them big old lips. And that's quite troubling. Everything else is proportionate.

[David Bore]

And you know what it reminded me of? I sent you guys another image.

[Langston Kerman]

That's true.

[David Bore]

Yeah, this is. Now it's getting a little deeper.

[Jamel Johnson]

We'll also send this to Justin because we're gonna have to put these up on the screen.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, These are important for everybody.

[David Bore]

Does this look familiar to anybody? Oh, that.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yep.

[David Bore]

The School of Hard Knocks mascot.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's right.

[David Bore]

Now, as an adult man who's paying bills on time, I start to think there's already a couple homunculus in the hood. Oh.

[Jamel Johnson]

Like they've been letting them out.

[David Bore]

They've been out. And we trying to keep them from the government. The government is trying to make us all humunculous.

[Jamel Johnson]

Right.

[David Bore]

A couple niggas fell through the fine print. We trying to keep them out the.

[Jamel Johnson]

Facilities as a testament to black people, though. That's probably why School of Hard Knocks was always BT or streetwear.

[David Bore]

Oh, we rejected it.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Cause I had one School of Hard Knocks T shirt, and I felt dumb about it.

[David Bore]

Sure.

[Langston Kerman]

It was not a popular brand.

[David Bore]

It wasn't cool.

[Jamel Johnson]

It was not cool. It was almost like kind of like junkie clothes. Like crackhead clothes. Like what Johnny Blaze turned into. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

It felt like what? It felt like it wanted to be and one so bad, but it wasn't and just didn't have of what it took to be animal.

[Jamel Johnson]

And it was such a clunky. It was so clunky. S o h k is not.

[David Bore]

It don't really like soak. Soak what? I'm soaking zombies.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

It don't feel right. It never felt right.

[Jamel Johnson]

I felt like it was a lot of off colored sweatsuits. You know what I mean? A lot of like lavender sweatsuits. Yeah, Lavender School of Hard Knocks. And I remember the T shirts had hella words on them. Like too many words.

[Langston Kerman]

They were. They were long winded.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's like what I'm gonna read this.

[Langston Kerman]

They'd be big paragraphs and shit.

[David Bore]

They out here dry snoo with the clothes. You know what I'm saying? That's. Hey, you see the leprechaun say yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, bro, I'm not even gonna hold you. That's my anime. The people who invented School of Hard Knocks trying to humunculus into the black community. They wanted to make us cool with it.

[Langston Kerman]

Damn, that's nasty.

[David Bore]

Yeah, it's way better than that show. What was that white one? How to make it in America. I like this better.

[Jamel Johnson]

What about the jeans?

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah, but this. About this.

[Jamel Johnson]

But this Kid Cudi's still in it. Different role.

[David Bore]

Way more talking from Kid Cudi in.

[Langston Kerman]

This, which we all want. We all want more talking from Kid Cudi.

[Jamel Johnson]

I'm okay with it.

[Langston Kerman]

We've all enjoyed the way that Kid Cudi has rolled out all of his things, especially as of late. You're killing it, Kid Cudi. We love what you do.

[David Bore]

Yeah, he back. He back around.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

Maybe we take a break. Maybe we just let that settle in. We'll be back with more David, more Langston, more Jamel and more. My mama told me.

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[David Bore]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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[Langston Kerman]

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[David Bore]

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[Jamel Johnson]

And we're also back off of that crack.

[David Bore]

You done said it, David.

[Jamel Johnson]

Wow.

[Langston Kerman]

Jamel, I did some research on the existence sort of this conversation of the homunculus. Right? The term homunculus originates.

[Jamel Johnson]

I know this one.

[Langston Kerman]

You know this one. Go ahead.

[Jamel Johnson]

The 1979 Australian film the Road War.

[Langston Kerman]

Unfortunately, that's not true.

[Jamel Johnson]

I think it is. I think maybe you run that movie back. He says I am the great humongous.

[David Bore]

Walk away and we will spare your life.

[Jamel Johnson]

I love that movie, man.

[David Bore]

It felt true.

[Langston Kerman]

Man, your ability to pull such specific quotes, it's admirable.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's very strange.

[Langston Kerman]

You really keep a library of very specific things that a person said.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's fun here, but then it's hard cause I gotta live like this.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, I get that.

[Jamel Johnson]

You know what I mean? So it's like I go to the bathroom at 4 in the morning. Alana's like, where you been?

[David Bore]

And I'm like, yeah, running lines, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Morning, sister. Act two. And she's like, I'm sleeping.

[Langston Kerman]

I've been in there doing A Beautiful Mind with shit that Orlando Brown says.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, that's the problem with having to live.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Jamel Johnson]

I'm sorry.

[Langston Kerman]

The term humunculus was born from a Latin word meaning little parts.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

And then was later evolved to mean small artificial human being.

[Jamel Johnson]

So it specifically meant that it is.

[Langston Kerman]

About a person who is not born. Your mother is a little off in that you were not going to turn into a humungulus. You instead would somebody would create a small artificial version of your or your life.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, can we one thing. Can we get this clear? Because I am confused. Is it humongulus with a G or is it humunkugulus like uncle.

[Langston Kerman]

There's no G in it.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, it's a C. Oh, that's my problem that I've been having this whole episode.

[Langston Kerman]

I thought you were in on the bit.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Cause I. Yeah, he's been saying it wrong because that's how his mother said it.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, no. I thought I was saying it right.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's why you took offense to my laugh. Yeah. Okay.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Now everything's making sense.

[David Bore]

I'm glad we could check in, like, in real time.

[Jamel Johnson]

Well, I was just. It was going on and I was like, eh.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. No, I was laughing because I thought you were joking.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, no, I've been real cheeks.

[David Bore]

Never mind. Okay.

[Jamel Johnson]

It does. Yeah, it does.

[David Bore]

I thought I could laugh.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Langston Kerman]

You thought I was shaking.

[Jamel Johnson]

I think if we get a raise in production budget, though. Yeah, we want to make a yakub head out of the real doll shit. Mm. Mm.

[David Bore]

That's gonna be cribs.

[Jamel Johnson]

Cause you felt like.

[David Bore]

Yeah, I'm fucking with that. Just with a side note.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, we gonna have My mama told me dark.

[David Bore]

And hey.

[Langston Kerman]

That'S gonna be behind a paywall, but you are gonna want to subscribe. So it is meaning small artificial human being. It was first popularized in the 16th century in alchemic writings. It is an alchemy based sort of like, theory. And in fact, in 1537, a dude named Paracelsus wrote this method.

[Jamel Johnson]

Black eye.

[David Bore]

Nah, the nigga came up with Celsius the drink.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I don't think he did either one of those black or Celsius. He wrote his method for creating a homunculus, and it said that the sperm of a man be putrefied by itself in a sealed cucurbit. For 40 days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a Can that be more not? I think it's like not till it hardened.

[David Bore]

It then.

[Langston Kerman]

Almost freeze dry.

[Jamel Johnson]

Are you saying putrefied or petrified?

[Langston Kerman]

Putrified is the word, like root word. Putrid sealed, essentially.

[Jamel Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Langston Kerman]

Vacuum sealed.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, so you cut them out carbonite style.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. 40 days and then at its, like, highest putrefaction inside of a horse's womb, or at least so long that it comes to life and moves itself and stirs, which is easily observed. After this time, it will look somewhat like a man, but transparent without a body. If after this, it be fed wisely with the acarnum of human blood and be nourished for up to 40 weeks and be kept in the even heat of the horse's womb, A living human child grows therefrom from with all of its members. Like another child which is born of a woman, but much smaller.

[David Bore]

Damn, son. They was 3D printing in the 1500s.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Yo, they're probably doing crazy stuff.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. This is an abomination. Yes. There should be no dirty. I'm not into horse nut science. Yeah, this is like.

[David Bore]

This ain't even horse nut.

[Langston Kerman]

It's human.

[Jamel Johnson]

I'm talking about. I'm talking about Are not with horses. I'm not with any of that.

[Langston Kerman]

The combo alone is not right.

[Jamel Johnson]

Honestly. This is why you need checks and balances as far. You can't just be letting scientists just do stuff.

[David Bore]

Yeah, man, that's.

[Jamel Johnson]

Cause he did that. I don't think it worked.

[David Bore]

So he did it a few times too.

[Jamel Johnson]

I think this guy was trying to get away with fucking a horse.

[David Bore]

Hell yeah. He was.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. 100%.

[David Bore]

Are you kidding? I knew that nut was putrefied. That was fresh nut he put in that horse a hundred percent right off the vine. It's nuts. I ain't letting it putrefy. Just write it down that I said it.

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, tell him.

[David Bore]

Tell them I let it get dry.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, tell them it was there for a while.

[David Bore]

Nah, I putrefied it. Yeah. Nah, that ain't from today.

[Jamel Johnson]

I'm doing research out here.

[David Bore]

That is not from today.

[Langston Kerman]

That's like six weeks old, baby.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Been in there.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah, I don't even do that no more.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, man.

[David Bore]

But it looked like Alex Mack. It looked like it's still. Nah.

[Langston Kerman]

That might have been my son. Honestly, he'd be putrefying in horses.

[David Bore]

Come on, man.

[Jamel Johnson]

You gotta do that.

[David Bore]

He lying.

[Langston Kerman]

He just making up. So. Yeah, he's like. He's like oh, my son probably did that. So I should be clear that alchemy is not necessarily real.

[Jamel Johnson]

No.

[Langston Kerman]

It is a sort of fictional science. It is a science that is imagined.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's like time travel.

[Langston Kerman]

Right.

[Jamel Johnson]

And so I think there's theories, but there's not. Right.

[Langston Kerman]

Even the alchemist writers of that time, I don't think are necessarily claiming to be actively doing this shit as much as they are like. Like sort of playing with magic in. In words and fiction and shit. That said much in the way that we've seen with so many writers historically and creators historically. Sometimes they're writing about real experiences and real shit and it doesn't. It would not surprise me even for a second if my boy Paracelsus was horses. And then being like, I bet you make it from nothing in a horse wound.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, no, I'm a scientist.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

Paracelsus. And started tripping.

[Langston Kerman]

Now, part of the reason he says that they did this shit was. Or that like a homunculus would have been advantageous is because they were like, exceptionally gifted at what they were calling art, which would then lead to them being able to create more fake humans and more like giants, odd creatures that did not exist on the earth.

[David Bore]

Carnival slaves.

[Langston Kerman]

Carnival slaves, Absolutely.

[Jamel Johnson]

Whoa.

[David Bore]

They try and make carnival slaves out of nigga.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

100%.

[Jamel Johnson]

Whoa. Because, I mean, I feel like carnies are slaves anyways.

[David Bore]

But then they.

[Jamel Johnson]

And they're freaks. They wanted more of that. Yeah.

[David Bore]

And they wanted more of that.

[Jamel Johnson]

They wanted more.

[David Bore]

Let's play them a little less.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

We ripping them off. They starting to get upset. They stronger than us.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Let's make them small.

[Jamel Johnson]

Now it's like, I don't have to pay you at all because you're small. Where are you gonna go? You have a beard.

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[David Bore]

Yeah, we make them small, but leave the meat big. Cause I wanna see the big meat.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

And people will pay to come see the big meat.

[Langston Kerman]

Look how big we can make a man's meat.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. But he can't overpower me. Even though it's meat.

[Langston Kerman]

He's so small.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

No, it's terrifying.

[Jamel Johnson]

This is a complicated episode.

[Langston Kerman]

I think it really made me take a step back because one of the things that they point to for modern day, like humunculus, whatever, is this claim that in Russia they were attempting to create a homunculus.

[Jamel Johnson]

I don't know why I knew that that's where they were doing it.

[Langston Kerman]

You knew Russia was the source.

[David Bore]

It felt like they could be. It's cold. Nobody's looking way out Siberia, Chechnya. Maybe send them to Fight Island.

[Jamel Johnson]

Is that where Fight island is?

[David Bore]

Fight island is somewhere else. But Chechnya had a real Fight Island.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[David Bore]

They really get it. That's where they doing, like, the team ufc. That's where. You ever see the ones where they gotta. They trying to fight each other in a car with the seat belts on?

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, car.

[Langston Kerman]

Jiu Jitsu.

[David Bore]

Car Jitsus. Yeah, that's them.

[Langston Kerman]

That shit's crazy. Fighting in the car is crazy. And then they have the ones where, like, it'll be like six dudes versus one real big guy.

[David Bore]

Yeah, they doing all type of illegal ass fights.

[Jamel Johnson]

Carvel slaves. Yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And then they had. The craziest one I've ever seen was when they had a dude who was a drug dealer fight the person who bought the drugs that still owed him money. Ooh.

[Jamel Johnson]

Whoa. See, I don't think that that's the fight I want to see. I want to see the drug dealer fight the addict's father. Oh, okay, now, now, now. Call up the draft queens. We got a fucking situation.

[David Bore]

Waitress. Yo, I need to see the live bets on that.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

Well, also, if the drug user is actively on meth or whatever they're doing, they're probably doing that.

[Jamel Johnson]

No, doing that crocodile shit over there.

[David Bore]

Super Soldier is a lie.

[Langston Kerman]

The drug dealer gave him. Gave him that word? I mean, the. The drug. Damn. The drug addict gave him that word.

[David Bore]

I'm like, oh, no, he on the shit, right?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

We didn't call him later. He's on the shit that I just stole from him.

[Langston Kerman]

In the video, the drug dealer looks like Kingpin. Like, he has, like.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, he's a big fat guy.

[Langston Kerman]

Big fat guy, big leather jacket. He's, like, in a ring and he's, like, knuckled up like this. And, like, you're like, oh. Either he's gonna catch a him quickly and this will be over, or he's about to get whooped because it's just a true crackhead. Like, fast, skinny, nimble, this motherfucker.

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[Langston Kerman]

He jab, jab, jab, jab. He go to sleep. Jab, jab, jab. You know what I mean? He moving. He don't give a fuck.

[David Bore]

It's a different kind of pace.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. Three minutes to a long time.

[David Bore]

A long ass time.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Most street fights don't go one round. No, no, no.

[Jamel Johnson]

They go 40 seconds tops.

[David Bore]

Feel like a lifetime.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

Some girl gets in and breaks it up.

[David Bore]

Y' all ever see a girl stop doing this? You ever see A girl try to break up a fight and then get.

[Jamel Johnson]

Like, yeah, but I've also seen it where she breaks like a girlfriend.

[David Bore]

Like, it's me, it's me. Look at me, look at me.

[Jamel Johnson]

Damn.

[David Bore]

Had to calm a nigga down. Like the Hulk.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

It's a real bummer when it becomes a moral conversation in the middle of a fight.

[Jamel Johnson]

Or when you're like. But then you're also like, damn, they're really in love.

[Langston Kerman]

No, they care about you.

[Jamel Johnson]

She really doesn't want them to fight.

[Langston Kerman]

She was willing to sacrifice everything to keep you.

[David Bore]

That's beautiful. The version I saw, way less beautiful.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I get that.

[David Bore]

We don't gotta get into details.

[Jamel Johnson]

No, no, no, no. This took a dark turn.

[Langston Kerman]

So in Russia, apparently the claim was that they were attempting to create a homunculus, which was made popular by a video about 10 years ago that started circulating of a man trying to. To inject sperm into a chicken egg.

[Jamel Johnson]

God damn it, bro, people gotta chill.

[Langston Kerman]

It was later proved to be a complete online hoax that. I don't know if it is an online hoax and that the man was not injecting the sperm into the egg.

[David Bore]

What's the hoax part?

[Langston Kerman]

I think it was more just like he was like, I'm gonna make a homunculus.

[David Bore]

And then he did something that would be funny if they was like, turns out Reddit is a hoax. Yeah, we just trying to get niggas to film themselves doing fucked up shit, man. That's what Red got him.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

One of the things this got me thinking about though, was this, what is the need for these additional bodies? Right? We live in a time where there's.

[Jamel Johnson]

A surplus of people, there's a surplus of people, people willing to do clearly, all kinds of shit.

[Langston Kerman]

We already have the ability to enslave people. And we, we have all, frankly, at this point, all the individuals we need for war. War is now done by fucking robots from hundreds of miles away. We don't need more warm bodies to necessarily throw at guns the way that we used to. So I'm not even sure that this has the same necessity that it might have had in like fucking olden times where you just needed a new fucking body to.

[Jamel Johnson]

Right, right. You needed a new body that you could control. You needed a crash dummy.

[Langston Kerman]

Yes. And now they don't need a crash dummy.

[Jamel Johnson]

Now people are self identifying as crash dummies.

[Langston Kerman]

They're happy to be a crash dummy.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's a different time.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, 100%.

[David Bore]

He can make some pretty good money.

[Langston Kerman]

And it crash, dummy.

[David Bore]

Yeah, sell some of them videos. They're ridiculousness.

[Jamel Johnson]

Shots fired.

[David Bore]

You can do your thing. Yo, this guy. You could, you could, you could. And when you said Russia, I'm thinking space race. Yeah, let's send some little niggas to space. Yeah, niggas that are little.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, put them in there. A dog. See what happens. Yeah, see what happens.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. We don't know.

[David Bore]

Send them to space.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm not gonna send my wife.

[Jamel Johnson]

No, no, no, no.

[David Bore]

I need to yell at her.

[Jamel Johnson]

I don't wanna send my mother in law.

[David Bore]

I don't know.

[Langston Kerman]

Not at all.

[Jamel Johnson]

Shout out to Koly P. She's pretty cool.

[Langston Kerman]

The other part of this that I do think it sort of revealed, as I was reading about this shit, is how much AI is just humunculous shit.

[David Bore]

Oh, hell yeah. Fuck, buddy boy.

[Langston Kerman]

Do you know what I mean? Like, we are just fabricating humanity via the computer now.

[David Bore]

The first Will Smith eating spaghetti.

[Langston Kerman]

But homunculus, 100%. And we've been pretending this whole time. Like, homunculus, that's cursed magic. That's evil. These motherfuckers were sick. Meanwhile, we're doing the exact same thing.

[Jamel Johnson]

We're watching it.

[Langston Kerman]

We're just watching it.

[Jamel Johnson]

What if cities were persons?

[Langston Kerman]

And we go, well, it's not technically a person, so it's okay that we're doing vile, evil shit by, like, making a not real person eat spaghetti.

[Jamel Johnson]

Mmm.

[David Bore]

God damn it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Langston, you done did it, man. You done fucking did it.

[Langston Kerman]

It's nasty.

[David Bore]

It's the most grotesque.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, that AI shit is gross.

[David Bore]

I had to get off Facebook, man. Y' all been getting them. It was the fake movie post.

[Jamel Johnson]

I haven't been on Facebook since 2020.

[Langston Kerman]

Go over there, man.

[David Bore]

Listen, I still got family deep in the burbs, so I was over there, okay?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

But I had to finally leave, dawg. They kept making these, like, fake hood movie posters.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, no.

[Jamel Johnson]

Were they good?

[David Bore]

No, they were awful.

[Jamel Johnson]

He left.

[Langston Kerman]

He wasn't.

[David Bore]

I had to leave Facebook.

[Langston Kerman]

It wasn't. He wasn't addicted to him.

[Jamel Johnson]

I was just thinking how much I would like to see, like, Coming America 3.

[David Bore]

See Coming America 3. That's the type of shit it would be. It would be Coming America. It would be this, but it would be, like, Tracy Morgan and, like, Monique is fucking Nelson Mandela.

[Langston Kerman]

Right?

[David Bore]

You know what I'm saying? It was some shit like this.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

It was a nightmare.

[David Bore]

It was the one for Friday after Next too.

[Langston Kerman]

That finally, a sequel for Friday after Next, too.

[David Bore]

A sequel for Just Friday after next, they made a fake movie poster for this, and I got really close to leaving an angry comment, and I was like, I gotta go. I gotta go right this feeling.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. What were you gonna say, bitch?

[David Bore]

This ain't. What?

[Jamel Johnson]

I don't even know yet.

[David Bore]

This ain't real. This ain't real. I was just gonna say some straight like, yeah, it's not Christmas again.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, No, I know what you mean. Cause that want to, like. That want to have to, like, leave that comment. But then you're scared. I mean, I told you about. Oh, you were in my house with the YouTube thing when I told you. I got all high and got mad on YouTube and left a bunch of comments and then was worried people could find me, so I changed my YouTube page.

[David Bore]

Yeah, I saw this. See? Yeah, they want us to do that.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. They want us to engage Ghostbusters, too.

[David Bore]

They trying to create, like, a Ghostbusters 2 economy where they just getting paid off of us being angry about it.

[Langston Kerman]

Everything's pink slime.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Langston Kerman]

That's crazy. What were you so mad at?

[Jamel Johnson]

I think. Oh, it.

[David Bore]

I don't mean to laugh. I know he opening up right now.

[Langston Kerman]

I know it's about to be dumb as shit, both of these things.

[David Bore]

It's certainly about to be dumb as shit. I want to hear it.

[Jamel Johnson]

It was one of those comedy critique videos, like, where they be critiquing comedians. But I was like. I was like, he's not even American, this guy.

[David Bore]

He doesn't even know how to say anybody's last name.

[Jamel Johnson]

He's talking about comedy here.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. And then I was like, you turned into a weird nationalist.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

They had you out there looking.

[Jamel Johnson]

Looking nuts, compromised. And I don't even. I'm not even on that. It was crazy. It was crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

Damn.

[David Bore]

But listen, we. Brother, they almost got me.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Friday after the Harlem Nights 2 poster. Friday after next two poster. And it's always a sequel.

[Jamel Johnson]

The problem is all these sequels are sequels. I want to see. And I know right after Next two would be amazing.

[David Bore]

Yeah, man. And New Line Cinema would never allow it. I'm about to start commenting like, you know New Line Cinema ain't gonna let Ice Cube make this.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

You're eating a bread masterpiece, brother.

[Langston Kerman]

They will see.

[David Bore]

I can feel the steam coming off my.

[Langston Kerman]

They will kill Ricky Smiley so fast before they let us get a.

[David Bore]

Even a whiff of that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, they not letting him get no lines off.

[David Bore]

That's it.

[Jamel Johnson]

Damn.

[David Bore]

They had that. They had coming America 2 Harlem knight 2 it was all twos. Jason's other lyrics. Yeah. And it was killing me.

[Jamel Johnson]

Eve's wetlands.

[David Bore]

Stand in wetlands. Get me to the bayou. She's from the bio. Why the hell in a wetlands?

[Langston Kerman]

So she just kept wondering what happened.

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[David Bore]

I didn't think it out. I was just having fun with you guys.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. It seems as if we're all in agreement at the end of this that humunculus, while probably not real, that they're probably not as a government sitting and like, trying to concoct people into like, weird little science bodies.

[David Bore]

Yeah. It's like I think they're trying it, but they're just not pulling it off. I've kind of. I know you. I've. I've heard you express these feelings where it's like they not that smart. Right. You know what I'm saying? But they want to be Nazis so bad. You know what I'm saying?

[Langston Kerman]

I think they fucked around with it.

[David Bore]

Yeah. They try to get some Mengele off, but they can't do it, bro, if they.

[Langston Kerman]

I know for a fact they've injected human nut into chicken egg just to.

[David Bore]

See justice for show. They're doing it monthly.

[Langston Kerman]

You got to.

[David Bore]

They have monthly logs. You don't got to. They got to. For whatever reasons they have.

[Jamel Johnson]

Reasons. Maybe get the school system together is all I'm saying.

[Langston Kerman]

I wish.

[David Bore]

I wish. That's what we would prefer.

[Langston Kerman]

I would. That's. Yeah. I think you're taking this as us advocating they have to get that out.

[David Bore]

Also, you're not the. Let me stop pointing at you.

[Langston Kerman]

That is. Boy, you're gonna want a nut in an egg and that's your business. But for me and Jamel, we're not really. We ain't on that, but we understand that you gotta get on regular.

[David Bore]

Long story short. Yeah, they've tried and the results was one humunculus in Queens they couldn't catch.

[Langston Kerman]

Uh huh.

[David Bore]

Whoa. And he's in with a little guy now. He's just like a little guy with a flip phone. I never. Hanging out at the basketball court with a sweatsuit on.

[Jamel Johnson]

People be like being like, k. Do.

[David Bore]

A flip with his hat cocked. In every city. It's only like one. You see, we got one. We got. Dude, his name Lil Dudat. Lil Du. Dat is sick.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Lil Duat is one of the sickest guys that ever exist.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

And they can't catch him. They trying to catch him. They trying to bottle it. But they can't catch him.

[Langston Kerman]

They can't get their hands on on him. That's cool. Good for him man free lil do.

[Jamel Johnson]

That Keep him free.

[Langston Kerman]

We love you lil do that. We're going to take a break. More more Jamel more. My mama told me.

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[Langston Kerman]

I turned off news altogether.

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I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.

[David Bore]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Jamel Johnson]

Think the bigger the booty, the finer it is. And now I'm. We can convince her she walks, switching that big old booty and all that.

[Langston Kerman]

It ain't nothing but doo doo in there.

[Jamel Johnson]

And it ain't nothing but dudes. Dudes in here.

[Langston Kerman]

Three of them.

[Jamel Johnson]

We're back.

[Langston Kerman]

Nice.

[Jamel Johnson]

We got a voicemail.

[Langston Kerman]

We have a voicemail. We got a.

[David Bore]

You think both butt cheeks is full of doo doo, by the way?

[Jamel Johnson]

Is that his theory?

[David Bore]

He's old.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Is Dick Gregory thinks that butt cheeks is too doo doo reservoirs. Yo, Dick Gregory. Hilarious, yo. Yeah, that is funny, Ben. We two doo doo silos.

[Langston Kerman]

We really. We've talked about this before. He will remain maybe the whitest whale that could have existed for this podcast.

[David Bore]

Oh, sure, yeah. Oh, my God. The Dick Gregory ep.

[Langston Kerman]

That would have. It would have truly gone.

[David Bore]

They'd have put that on tv, doc. Y' all got on like straight up broadcast television.

[Langston Kerman]

Whether we would have had to make it a two night event.

[David Bore]

Yeah, yeah, I'm wearing tuxedos. Damn, I can see that.

[Langston Kerman]

Fuck, bro, the things he would have said to us, it would have changed everything. God, yeah, we think about it often. Certainly I do. I don't want to speak for David.

[Jamel Johnson]

Him and recently deceased Quincy Jones, man.

[David Bore]

He got, man, Quincy Jones. Quincy was Cicely Tyson. Whatever he would have said about Cicely Tyson. Yeah, whatever he would have said.

[Langston Kerman]

Man.

[Jamel Johnson]

Listen, we could get into. We could get into people. Dead people. We would like to have on.

[Langston Kerman]

We can get into theory all day. But we did get a voicemail. I'll play it for us now.

[Jamel Johnson]

Hey, y', all, my mama told me that white people tend to have funerals faster because they decompose quicker. And so like they need to have the funeral within like three to seven. Seven days. And that black people, we can like take our time planning.

[David Bore]

Since we age, our shit kind of stays.

[Jamel Johnson]

You know, black people, they might have the funeral a week after the death. Two weeks, Three weeks. Hell, I've seen four weeks.

[David Bore]

It was a month. Nah, my uncle was like, he was dead for a straight up month and they had the funeral a month later, dog. That was the nigga. That was two weeks ago. For real. Shout out. RIP My Uncle Melvin, man. For real. But that's real as shit. White funerals are quick.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

I mean, I guess if I think about it, well.

[David Bore]

Cause I mean, you know, how many white funerals is anybody really going to. But I'm sure we all got one white friend who was like, oh, my cat just died. We gotta have the funeral right now. Like, see, they not thinking that. It's like, I'm thinking about it. Like, let me get it now.

[Jamel Johnson]

I think my Grandpa was like, 90 days or some shit. Fuck it.

[David Bore]

Be a long time, dog.

[Langston Kerman]

Forever. Yeah, yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

Even my auntie. My auntie who died a couple years ago, same thing. It was like a little bit the.

[Langston Kerman]

Jewish side of my family. I believe in Jewish religion. You're supposed to bury within two days.

[Jamel Johnson]

Two days, yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

If I'm not mistaken, because they got.

[David Bore]

That crepe thin skin.

[Langston Kerman]

Now, see, that's where we get. That's where it gets complicated for me.

[Jamel Johnson]

Right? Okay. We're talking black preservatives now.

[Langston Kerman]

I do think. I do think white people tend to bury faster. I worry that if we're ever going to find any version of unity that ever exists again, we can't tell them that they buried them, their families faster because they're gonna melt, man.

[David Bore]

At some point, you right.

[Langston Kerman]

At some point, we have to reach across the aisle at least a little. We have to put our hand out. Do you know what I mean? We don't have to be.

[David Bore]

I see what you say.

[Langston Kerman]

We don't have to serve.

[David Bore]

You don't gotta say that out loud.

[Langston Kerman]

You don't gotta be like, well, you'll turn your dust. You get that in the back end.

[David Bore]

Yeah, you just keep that up there.

[Langston Kerman]

You keep that back there. Of course.

[Jamel Johnson]

That's why.

[David Bore]

Yeah, maybe.

[Langston Kerman]

Of course, when this person said it, I go, yeah, that makes sense to me.

[David Bore]

It kind of respects.

[Langston Kerman]

But I keep it to me, right?

[Jamel Johnson]

I started doing my stats. I was like, I better get six months before they had to put me down.

[Langston Kerman]

And I started doing my stats and it was shorter. It was shorter. I said to myself, oh, boy. I said, oh, boy. Maybe if you put this peach in a brown bag, you can get a few extra days out of it. But. But no, it's not gonna work out the way I'd like.

[David Bore]

Personally, I also think that the nursing home. No, excuse me, not nursing home. The funeral home industry. Probably one of the most racist. Probably right up there with car sales.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yup, I can see that.

[David Bore]

And shit of this nature.

[Langston Kerman]

I think they definitely upcharge us for putting people in the earth.

[David Bore]

Just like for shots of Hennessy. They charging us more. They making us wait for headstones. All the headstones ain't gonna be ready for.

[Jamel Johnson]

Right, right.

[David Bore]

Three, four weeks. Oh, we can't spell Johnson.

[Jamel Johnson]

Right, right.

[David Bore]

We ran out of H's.

[Jamel Johnson]

This feels very personal.

[David Bore]

Oh, I can't spell the. Oh, what's the black ass last name? Edwards. I can't spell Edwards. The W broke on my laser cutter. Yeah, it's gonna be about three, four weeks. Yeah, I think the funeral home industry.

[Jamel Johnson]

Damn.

[David Bore]

Listen, are there a lot of black.

[Jamel Johnson]

Owned funeral homes have you ever had? I think a lot.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

100% dog. Which is. Listen, man. Couple of them been put in place so they can move wet throughout the community.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Wait, what? They selling PCP out the funeral homes, kid.

[Jamel Johnson]

Oh, the embalming fluid.

[David Bore]

Yeah, obviously. Cause that's where it is. So that's just, you know, crime of opportunity. But the opportunity is being placed by them up there. You feel me? They dropping down the embalming fluid to us. We like.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[David Bore]

It's dying all the time.

[Langston Kerman]

Ronald Reagan dropped off that embalming fluid 100%, man. Yeah.

[David Bore]

@ the bus stop.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

And it's all, you know. Yeah, sure, maybe white people, maybe white cells break down like wet cardboard. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But I also think them funeral homes is.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And I think. I think to that point, it does lead me to a bigger feeling, which is like, at the end of the day, part of the reason black people and brown people do not bury their families as quickly is because of resources. Because of oftentimes there's poor white people. Yeah, but I think we don't know none of them. I think the population understands them through their wealth, not through their poverty.

[Jamel Johnson]

Right. That's true.

[David Bore]

Every white person that talk to me got to have at least 80 grand in their bank account. You can't even talk to me if you got under that.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. We don't know enough about the way that poor white people are living. And in some ways it's probably identical to poor black and brown people. End of the day, though, you take away enough resources, it makes it hard for me to bury my family. And I bet to your point, you upcharge me the entire time that my family is in holding.

[David Bore]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a dollar fifty a day storage for me to keep this dead nigga in Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

It's like you had the container down.

[Langston Kerman]

You already had the cold.

[David Bore]

Oh, you want him to wear Jordans. That's an extra hundred. Cause we got our own. We got our own dress shoes.

[Jamel Johnson]

We like to provide.

[Langston Kerman]

We give you a shoe.

[David Bore]

We gotta charge extra. I gotta charge extra for my own shoes.

[Jamel Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Bore]

They his shoes. Yeah. But we all. We got a lot of. It's like a bowling alley thing where we got our own.

[Langston Kerman]

And the truth is we should just be putting people in the dirt naked. No box.

[Jamel Johnson]

I do kind of think that too. That really isn't. It's just like. Feels like when you get uber eats from McDonald's and they got all that paper.

[David Bore]

Yeah.

[Jamel Johnson]

And you're like, hey, man, man, we could have done this with three less bags.

[Langston Kerman]

You didn't have to do that.

[Jamel Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

This is actually much better if I.

[Jamel Johnson]

Got two breakfast burritos.

[David Bore]

They do like to put the McDonald's in a Bloomingdale's bag so much. Why do they do that? I don't know, man.

[Langston Kerman]

It's crazy to make you feel like you didn't order McDonald's, right?

[Jamel Johnson]

And then.

[David Bore]

And then the drink is gonna get spilled. You got all of this stuff to hold this drink in place.

[Jamel Johnson]

And they're not insulated bags. The shit's cold.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, no, they're still McDonald's employees the whole time. They're not. Just cause you put it in a big bag doesn't make it not McDonald's level. Yeah, well, I think we did it.

[Jamel Johnson]

This was a pretty good episode.

[Langston Kerman]

I think this was really fun.

[Jamel Johnson]

Shout out to Papa Pia.

[Langston Kerman]

Shout out to Papa Pia. Jamel, could you tell the people where they can find you? What cool shit you got going?

[David Bore]

You can find me Rockley House on Instagram for a limited time. Who knows when I pull the plug on that? Once I see an ad I don't like, I probably just yank. But I'm over there, I'm over there. And if you see me on threads, don't even look twice. Just, you know, I might be there, I might not, and shit, I ain't nowhere else. Oh, New Year's Eve, DC Improv.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay. Hell yeah. Fire. What you got.

[Jamel Johnson]

Cool guy jokes 87 on Instagram. Nothing. Just watch my special on YouTube. Birth of a Nation with a G. Oh.

[David Bore]

Every first Tuesday, every month in Los Angeles. That's what I got. A little show called Fresh Produce. Me and Garrick. Bernard, that was this thing.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[David Bore]

Blind Barbara, Highland Park. We up north.

[Jamel Johnson]

All right.

[David Bore]

This nigga's in the mountains.

[Langston Kerman]

All right, let's go. Beautiful. You can follow me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms. You can see me on tour. I am coming to Phoenix, Wilmington, Cleveland, Brooklyn, East Providence, Chicago, Detroit and Grand Rapids. It's coming up. Please buy them [e-mail] if you want to send us your own voicemails, your own call us us at 844-LIL-MOM send us an [e-mail] and like subscribe rate, review, buy merch. Buy popsicles. Suck on them things. Bye bitch.

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[Jamel Johnson]

I hope I can like, you know, totally crack up. So I haven't like totally cracked up.

[Langston Kerman]

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[Jamel Johnson]

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Jamel Johnson]

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[Langston Kerman]

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