Kids See Ghosts and Also Predators (with Kid Fury) (1)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: My Momma Told Me – "Kids See Ghosts and Also Predators" (with Kid Fury)

Date: May 28, 2026
Hosts: Langston Kerman & David Gborie
Guest: Kid Fury

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Episode Overview

This episode of My Momma Told Me delves into the conspiracy theory that "all child stars are victims", with particular focus on the infamous rumor that Lil Bow Wow was sexually assaulted as a child. Langston, David, and guest Kid Fury discuss how such rumors originate, spread, and intersect with broader truths about the dangers and exploitation faced by Black child stars. The conversation is a blend of sharp humor, candid personal reflection, and a sober reckoning with the dark side of fame and the entertainment industry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Black Celebrity Mystique

• The hosts joke about famous Black actors with tricky-to-pronounce names (esp. Chiwetel Ejiofor), and how some celebrities insist on their names being pronounced correctly while others do not.
  • "Chiwetel Ejafor is the most famous man on the planet whose name no one knows how to pronounce." —Langston Kerman [03:32]
• Sidebar on Raven-Symoné's sudden late correction of her last name and how celebrity rebrands often fall flat.

2. Child Stars and Urban Legends: Roots of the Conspiracy

• Kid Fury introduces his “my mama told me” conspiracy: “child stars are all victims.” [10:43]
• Discussion shifts to the Bow Wow rumor:
  • Fury recalls the detailed, lurid rumor spreading at school about Bow Wow’s alleged assault in a limousine, stitched together with almost urban legend levels of specificity.
  • Fury shares how he heard the rumor even while visiting Jamaica, showing how far it spread:
    • "I go down [to Jamaica]... and they asked me if Bow Wow was okay because they heard about..." — Kid Fury [14:45]

3. How Such Rumors Spread

• All three reminisce about exactly when and how they first heard the Bow Wow story—comparing notes on region, detail, and how uncanny it was such a specific rumor spread so far.
  • "The fact that we all heard limo, the specificity of it does make you wonder, how did this happen so specifically?" — Bori [19:19]
• Theories on origin:
  • Maybe it was a smear by a rival child star’s parent (Lil Romeo/Master P), or an almost “Reagan moving crack through the community” deliberate plant.

4. Investigating the Bow Wow Rumor

• Langston relates his research:
  • Bow Wow addressed the rumor on Vlad TV, directly denying it, recounting how he called into a Philly radio station from Paris to refute it.
  • The group is skeptical of this account, poking logical holes:
    • "Bow Wow tells him it's fucking ridiculous...he called a radio station...in Philly to deny that he's been raped." —Langston Kerman [28:01]
    • "If you were gonna call Philly, why wouldn't you just call New York?...you didn't call the main one. You were like, nah, Philly's gotta hear this first." — Bori [29:14]

5. The Culture’s Attitude Toward Sexual Violence Against Boys

• Discussion of how, even today, male celebrities (esp. in hip-hop) brush off or even brag about underage sex, with Lil Wayne’s story (from the "Carter" documentary) about being “raped at 11 and I loved it” used as a jaw-dropping example.
  • "There are many rappers who are like...the day my son turned 12, I bought him his first hoe." — Kid Fury [35:52]
• Notably, the hosts are critical and disgusted by this culture and the way such real abuse is normalized, minimized, or even re-packaged as proof of masculinity:
  • "So I'll burn my face off before I let somebody think I'm even remotely gay...but I ain't gay..." —Langston Kerman (mocking the attitude Bow Wow might take) [29:57]
• The group is somber about how much real harm goes unaddressed, and how rumors, true or not, mask a culture of legitimate abuse.

6. Other Child Star Tragedies and Abuse Allegations

• Langston discusses other Black child stars:
  • "Orlando Brown is a perfect sort of example of what the fuck happened to that young man. Todd Bridges talks openly about having been sexually assaulted..." [47:40]
  • Mentions Gary Coleman’s troubled adulthood and Raz B of B2K’s allegations against Chris Stokes.
• They highlight that often, these stories lead to “arrested development” and deep, ongoing trauma in adulthood.

7. Conspiracy Theory Verdicts

• Bori:
  • "Something's happening to these kids. That's where I stand...There's no way to tell, man." [51:32]
• Kid Fury:
  • "I don't believe it. But there is a strangeness...The fact that it was such a widespread international rumor that never made an actual publication...but has so many common parts...is wild." [51:54]
• All agree that, rumor aside, child stardom is inherently dangerous—there aren’t enough protections, and abuse (emotional, physical, or sexual) is rampant.
• Langston:
  • "Whether or not this is True. There is an emotional truth underneath...we are supporting and promoting a violence against these children, even if the violence is not the sexual graphic one..." [53:24]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bow Wow’s fame and the conspiracy's persistence:
  "He was unbelievably large. And he's not talking about drugs. He ain't talking about alcohol. He's having a cool kind of fun that niggas can relate to. ... If I want to take that figure down, I got to start telling people he got butt sexed." — Langston Kerman [18:13]
• On the culture protecting abusers:
  "You were in a room with a 15 year old getting their dick sucked and you're proudly on a street corner now telling their business about it. I really don't feel like anybody has any wins, you know?" — Kid Fury [39:09]
• On real harm to child stars:
  "It's obvious that kids, especially in the entertainment industry, don't seem to have enough eyes on them." — Kid Fury [52:53]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [10:43] Introduction of the conspiracy: "child stars are all victims"
• [12:22]–[17:33] Personal recollections of the Bow Wow rumor, its spread, and impact
• [18:13] Discussion of Bow Wow’s cultural importance and possible motivations for rumor
• [27:09]–[29:57] Bow Wow’s own denial of the rumor and critical analysis of his account
• [35:52]–[37:12] Lil Wayne's story and the normalization of the abuse of boys in hip-hop
• [47:40]–[50:36] Overview of other Black child stars’ abuse stories: Orlando Brown, Todd Bridges, Gary Coleman, Raz B
• [51:32]–[54:08] Hosts' final positions on the conspiracy and the emotional truths underlying the rumor

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Tone & Style

As always, the hosts' style is irreverent but thoughtful—they use their signature comedy to process difficult truths, shift from jokes to sincere critique, and challenge the casual cruelty and dysfunction of pop culture. Kid Fury brings biting wit and a frank perspective, underscoring the point that, whether or not the rumors are true, the pattern is deeply troubling.

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For those who haven’t listened:
This episode is a blend of nostalgia (for BET’s golden years), Black pop culture debate, and a serious examination of how and why rumors about children get started and believed. It’s a must-listen if you’re interested in the intersection of Black culture, celebrity, abuse, rumor, and how we talk about the things we’d rather not face.

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Transcript

[Langston Kerman]

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[Langston Kerman]

I rewatched that genuine entrance the other day of him when he went on 106 and he came out in a stretcher. This is for one of the performances.

[Bori]

Yes, I do remember.

[Langston Kerman]

He came out in the stretcher and then his boy goes, oh, no, he's flatlining, y'.

[Kid Fury]

All.

[Langston Kerman]

The only way we can bring him back is with chest compression. And then they do the chest compressions and Genuine does this shit on the fucking. And then he comes back to life and sings, Pony. It's the. What are you talking about?

[Bori]

Kingship. Kingship.

[Langston Kerman]

And we were just like, I guess it's Thursday. Cause Genuine. Fuck you. You had it all, baby. And you let it. You let it go.

[Kid Fury]

Damn.

[Bori]

Microchips in your anus.

[Kid Fury]

All koala bears are racist.

[Bori]

The ozone layer owes me money.

[Kid Fury]

Martians Invented turkey stuffing.

[Bori]

Y' all can't tell me nothing.

[Langston Kerman]

Chili's. Chili's baby back ribs. There it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me the

[Bori]

podcast, where we dive deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories, and we

[Langston Kerman]

finally work to prove that Chiwetel Ejafor is the most famous man on the planet whose name no one knows how to pronounce. That motherfucker is unbelievably famous for everybody to be like, what is his name? I do not know it. I've never known it, and I never will know it because of how hard that motherfucker is.

[Bori]

You're right. You're right. His face is great.

[Langston Kerman]

Name another. Cause even Jaime we figured out Jaime. You know what I mean?

[Bori]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, we all figured out, like, okay, Jaime and Hanson.

[Kid Fury]

That's a mustard.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's almost exactly.

[Bori]

Exactly. And Papa Midnight and Constantine, A lot of big roles.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on. They put blue contacts on him and nobody said nothing. That was beautiful.

[Kid Fury]

Yo.

[Bori]

Chiwetel got a Marvel movie and a slave movie. That's, like, the two biggest black man movies. And I don't know how to say the last name.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, I don't think that. I don't. I mean, I think you have to, like, commit to demanding people know it.

[Bori]

Yeah, right.

[Kid Fury]

I think he's a little too, like, you know, chill about. However, like, Raven coming out at, like, 35 and saying, my last name is Simone. We don't care. We can't. Raven Simone our whole life. We can't do that now.

[Langston Kerman]

You had your chance.

[Bori]

You get the feeling he was on set, like, you just called me Chiwei. It's good.

[Kid Fury]

And then it's like, exactly.

[Bori]

And then it's like, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta stand on that shit.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, he's Uzo.

[Kid Fury]

Aduba was like, listen, I don't give a fuck. You can say Charlize Theron to figure it out.

[Bori]

Yeah, you gotta stand out.

[Langston Kerman]

But she came out. She came out and did that from the start to the bigger point. She said, this is who the fuck I am, and I may not even be here that long, but you gonna learn to pronounce this instead. She would tell was like, hey, edgy's fine. Call me Edgy. I don't know. It don't matter.

[Kid Fury]

It's just happy to be.

[Bori]

And the hard thing about the Raymond thing is it's gone so far that, like, we don't believe it. You know what I mean? It's like, I believe it. But I don't believe it.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, no, it's a little too bougie and random.

[Bori]

Yeah. Too little.

[Kid Fury]

Too Simone. Yeah. I don't buy it.

[Langston Kerman]

Nah. And she's done too many weirdo things before this where, like. I don't trust your opinion on nothing, lady. There's no, like, thing you could tell me where. I take it as 100% true.

[Kid Fury]

She said she was from every country in Africa except two, and every country in Europe except two or something. She was literally from half the planet.

[Bori]

Here's my question is, what were the two? It was like, sorry, drc, you ain't making sense.

[Langston Kerman]

It's like, yeah, I'm not. Listen, one thing I'm not is Kenyan. Everything else I'm fucking.

[Bori]

I bet she would claim Kenya just because Kenya gets a lot of press for.

[Langston Kerman]

No, they're cool. Yeah, they're.

[Bori]

Shut up. No, I don't mean that. I'm sorry.

[Kid Fury]

Where's Amber Rose from again?

[Bori]

Denver.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, not. Yeah, nothing. I mean, like, where's the black part? She says she claimed.

[Bori]

Oh, I don't even know. Did she claim Africa?

[Langston Kerman]

I didn't know she did that. She. Because she went on a little run where she was saying she wasn't black no more. She had a little recent run where

[Kid Fury]

she was Cape Verdean. There you go.

[Langston Kerman]

Oh, Cape Verde.

[Bori]

Oh, that's a good one. There's a lot of countries in Africa that nobody's gonna follow up on. There's just like, yeah, say you're Namibian. Who's gonna. Who's gonna say anything?

[Langston Kerman]

Who's gonna stop you? Our guest today. You've already heard their voice. This is a. It's a phenomenal time. We're excited he's here. You know him from a lot of cool shit, you know, rap shit on hbo. Max. Max. I ain't no hbo. Max. Shut the fuck up, hbo.

[Kid Fury]

I can't keep up.

[Langston Kerman]

It's ma. But it's a show, a great show that he's a part of. He also hosts a podcast called the Read that you can listen to anywhere and everywhere. And that's the whole shebang. And we're so excited he's here. Give it up for Kid Fury, everybody.

[Kid Fury]

Sunny la.

[Langston Kerman]

Sunny la. We're glad you're here. You came to us, I should say, with a conspiracy theory that we softened up a little bit. And that's not because we're afraid of the conversation. Let me be be very clear about that. We are not afraid of the conversation. And in fact, I encourage you right away. To get into what inspired this conversation, but we have covered a fair amount of this individual on the podcast, and so we wanted to make sure that we broaden it a little bit to make sure that we're not exclusively a Bow Wow podcast from this point forward. But you.

[Kid Fury]

Bow wow is such a liar.

[Bori]

Let's go. Let's go crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm excited.

[Kid Fury]

He's like the centerpiece of the conspiracy podcast. That's insane.

[Langston Kerman]

He is a vital source for this podcast, I would say.

[Bori]

Yeah. It comes up.

[Kid Fury]

Fuck Mr. 106 and Park. He's Mr. My Mamato.

[Bori]

Can I also say he's my least favorite male host of 106 and Park.

[Kid Fury]

Was he ever actually a host? I think they ran out of options and then they were like, hey, brother, you want to check?

[Langston Kerman]

Hey, you want to keep coming back? Because you seem to be hanging out anyway. You just want to.

[Bori]

I'm a AJ guy from way back.

[Kid Fury]

I stopp paying attention.

[Langston Kerman]

Tiga would. Tigger, was it. I. I did fuck with aj. I was devastated to find out that the dreads were not real. That. That hurt.

[Bori]

You knew that. You knew.

[Langston Kerman]

You knew the whole time. You knew the whole time.

[Kid Fury]

I did not.

[Langston Kerman]

You're lying if you tell me you knew the whole time, Bro.

[Bori]

They were too. There was a lot of dread.

[Langston Kerman]

That was a lot of dread. Which makes it even crazier because he was sitting down every day to get 30 pounds of dread sewn in. Why? That's crazy.

[Bori]

You want to suffer for your art

[Kid Fury]

For a rabid pack of 13 year olds from the Bronx who are there to see Petey Pablo Psycho Insane for fucking Freestyle Friday?

[Langston Kerman]

You had to put new dreads in.

[Bori]

That was a big day.

[Kid Fury]

Don't be like that.

[Bori]

Shout out to my man, Blind Fury.

[Langston Kerman]

Have you ever rewatched any blind theory?

[Bori]

Of course I've rewatched. Rewrite, YouTube, Supercuts.

[Langston Kerman]

I'll be honest, he's one of the worst rappers that have ever reached that level of success.

[Bori]

Hey, you know what, though? He was blind as hell. Can't say he was blind. He was blind as shit. You see him up there?

[Kid Fury]

This time we'll never get back.

[Bori]

Yeah, that dude was blind as fuck.

[Kid Fury]

We'll never get an opportunity like that again.

[Langston Kerman]

It was such a beautiful time, and we didn't know what we had.

[Kid Fury]

We didn't kid.

[Langston Kerman]

You came to us with a conspiracy theory that somehow sparked whatever that conversation was. But you said, my mama told me

[Kid Fury]

child stars are all victims.

[Langston Kerman]

And I should say, specifically, you guided this conversation through your. Your A conspiracy theory about Lil Bow Wow. Tell us everything. You know.

[Kid Fury]

Um, the year was probably around approximately 2000. God had to be somewhere between 1 and 4.

[Bori]

It's early. It's early.

[Kid Fury]

Early 2000, I think.

[Bori]

This was before the towers fell.

[Kid Fury]

You know what it might have been. This is like a while ago. Balor was still low. I don't even know if he was like Mike yet.

[Langston Kerman]

That was a few years into the journey, I think.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, I mean, he was doing great. He was just kind of like at the peak of his heart. Throb pop stardom. And I go to school one day, minding my goddamn business, not really expecting much out of anything besides bullying and humidity is my issue.

[Bori]

Yeah, of course.

[Kid Fury]

And for whatever reason, the talk on the town or in the high school halls was, did you hear what happened to Pow Wow? And the story went that he was unfortunately assaulted sexually in a limousine by his own security guard.

[Langston Kerman]

Yes.

[Kid Fury]

And there were graphic additions to the story, some involving, like, stitching.

[Bori]

That's what I heard. That's what I heard.

[Kid Fury]

You know, sewing things back together.

[Bori]

A blowout, if you will.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah. As a gay man, I really relate.

[Bori]

I have no comment.

[Kid Fury]

Empathize. Yeah. So I remember just going to school and hearing that. And there was a lot of celebrity gossip that went around. As, you know, you were a kid. You know, a big one for us was also Trina and Missy Elliott. Being a couple, that one might not have been untrue, but either way, I think they.

[Langston Kerman]

That one would have been pretty cool, for sure. That don't seem pretty cool. That would be cool. And it would explain why there are so few collaborations.

[Kid Fury]

But I remember hearing this one and going, huh? Like, why isn't this on the news? Why haven't we heard from an official source about something so tragic, violent, heinous, unspeakable? And I never really got an answer for that.

[Langston Kerman]

So you are told this in the hallways in between being bullied by assume Haitian men.

[Kid Fury]

A couple. Bah. Okay.

[Langston Kerman]

And then. And you hear this, and your immediate instinct is, nah, this feels silly. This is absurd.

[Kid Fury]

It just. It felt way too wild and random to me.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

But I remember thinking also, like, where do we come up with these?

[Langston Kerman]

Right.

[Kid Fury]

Who's the person who's like, I'm gonna get this shit kicked?

[Bori]

That's a question.

[Kid Fury]

How does it make the waves? Because the powerful thing about this story for me was that I think the following summer I went down to visit my family in Jamaica, as I did quite often in the summertime as a kid. And Two of my uncles who are around the same age as me. My granddaddy was fast.

[Bori]

Salute.

[Kid Fury]

You know, I'm not mad at them recipes. We go down there and we're, you know, kicking the shit, climbing trees, eating mangoes. And they asked me if Bow Wow was okay because they heard about. And I'm like. I said, nigga, running water is, like,

[Bori]

questionable around these farms. How the fuck do you know about this Bow Wow rumor?

[Langston Kerman]

Buddy, you can't be focusing on Bow Wow right now. You got other problems. This isn't it.

[Bori]

I like that they knew that you would have a direct line. Like, you would be like, actually, he's

[Kid Fury]

doing well as the American.

[Langston Kerman]

I was actually with him in the hospital last week. He's healing up fine.

[Kid Fury]

Let me text him. We didn't have texting yet.

[Langston Kerman]

The new record, It's a banger. You're gonna love it.

[Kid Fury]

You just don't know the way he moves so fast.

[Langston Kerman]

So you're not buying it? Bori, we're all of a similar age. You heard this around the same time? Did you believe it?

[Bori]

No, I didn't believe it. I remember it was in junior high school, and this kid on my wrestling team who smelled very bad. Very bad. His name was Wilt. He told me, and he said. He's not gonna listen to me.

[Langston Kerman]

No, I just mean it's sad that a man was named Wilt at the time.

[Kid Fury]

Smelled poorly.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Bori]

I mean, he was a boy at the. But that's how I know. That's how I can put the date on it, because I remember the junior high school I was at because I went to a lot of schools. And he told me that it was in the limo by his limo driver, and that there was like. I think he said. If I. If my memory serves, I think he said 32 stitches.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Bori]

Which even as a little boy, I was like, this is. I was just like, this is. How did this get to Will? You know what I mean? Of, like, how did this trickle down all the way? That sticky ass Wilt knows, But also,

[Langston Kerman]

how is it that Wilt is the number one source of bow wow information coming out of this specific area? Like, that doesn't fucking make sense.

[Bori]

You know the craziest part about it, Wilt? Shocker. White guy. Mm. It was a white guy.

[Langston Kerman]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

That explains a couple things I was

[Langston Kerman]

about to say that starts to make this feel like an intentional sort of like Reagan moving crack through the community kind of vibes.

[Bori]

That's how that is. It felt like a plant because it was Also, like, nobody else was talking about. He was the only one who said it to me. Yeah. Cause I remember being like, ah, what the fuck is he talking about? And then going about my. Cause he told me in the morning. And then going about my day. No black people said anything about it to me all day. But I still remember Wilt telling me that.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, here's what I'll say. If I am a president of a United States and I'm watching this young upstart, Lil Bow Wow start to make waves with young men and young women in a way that we haven't seen in a millennia, this motherfucker was. Was Michael Jackson, again, level famous. And he wasn't really talking. He was big, bro.

[Kid Fury]

He was huge.

[Langston Kerman]

We. I think we forget how fucking big Bow Wow was. He was unbelievably large. And he's not talking about drugs. He ain't talking about alcohol. He's having a cool kind of fun that niggas can relate to.

[Kid Fury]

But he still had, like, gangsta connects because he was introduced by way of Snoop.

[Bori]

Yeah, come on.

[Kid Fury]

So he still had, like, street cred even though he was four, bro.

[Langston Kerman]

You could still have him in the back of the video. And it wasn't like, corny. It wasn't crazy. He's a powerful figure in society. If I want to take that figure down, I got to start telling people he got butt sexed.

[Kid Fury]

I think that there's something here along with the, you know, putting them in dresses, putting us in dresses to take our power and strength.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on.

[Kid Fury]

They're like, the way to attack the black community and their fervor.

[Bori]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Take down this ballot.

[Bori]

Here is my question, though. And I do wonder this, because this is truly a cross country phenomenon. Right now we have Miami to Chicago to Washington State. The fact that we all heard limo, the specificity of it does make you wonder, how did this happen so specifically? Like, doesn't that feel crazy to you?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that the rumor itself is so,

[Bori]

like, you would think it would telephone a little bit to where you heard in Miami. Maybe you heard limo. By the time it got to me, it was like Snoop Dogg's hot tub or some shit. You know what I mean?

[Langston Kerman]

It was a hummer, too.

[Bori]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the idea that it was a limo, and I heard driver, you both heard security. So a little bit different. But the specificity of it is interesting to me.

[Kid Fury]

It is very interesting to me as well. But I'm also starting to think, because it seemed to take so much life in the school System. I'm wondering if there was just like a rival child, star parent, uh oh, that lost a job to this kid and was like every opportunity I got.

[Bori]

Cause listen, I'm a whistleblower. I'll say it. Do you think this was a masterpiece situation?

[Langston Kerman]

I was about to say there's a man named Percy Miller who had a lot to gain during this era. Come on. And could not afford to lose.

[Bori]

Come on. And Romeo did not have what it took. I'll say it. Stacked up. It was no competition.

[Langston Kerman]

He didn't have it.

[Kid Fury]

They were still fake beefing on that damn reality show. They were kids of sisterhood, of hip

[Bori]

hop show Hip hop.

[Kid Fury]

I'm ashamed to know that, but it's true.

[Bori]

No, I know what you're talking about. But also, can we, can we, can we. We could all agree Lil Romeo did not have it like Lil Bow Wow had it.

[Kid Fury]

Have what exactly? He had a Nickelodeon show, I believe.

[Bori]

Boom.

[Langston Kerman]

His dad gave him that. That wasn't. That wasn't a well earned, you know, position.

[Bori]

He had JCPenney shoes. Lil Romeo was trash.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, he was bad.

[Bori]

Yeah, they were very bad. Oh, he did have. Yeah, very bad. Very, very bad.

[Kid Fury]

Fuck. Bow wow ain't have no damn shoes.

[Bori]

Listen. But Bow Wow was a king.

[Langston Kerman]

Do you own a durag? I bet Bow Wow sees a cut of it. I bet you paying Bow Wow right now. You be careful with the way you speak about Bow Wow on this podcast. Let us be frank and upfront about this. He is a historical figure that we value very much.

[Kid Fury]

I don't value.

[Langston Kerman]

We don't respect him, but we value him very much. And we don't want to besmir. We need him to make it on this podcast so that we can finally make this whole thing whole.

[Kid Fury]

If you say so.

[Bori]

That would be crazy.

[Kid Fury]

Bow wow, come on here and tell y' all 20 more lies.

[Bori]

Big lies.

[Kid Fury]

Big crazy lies.

[Bori]

I'm on a jet right now.

[Kid Fury]

So I really don't know what happened with Bow Wow, if anything traumatic or just wild Era happened in a limo and it just took on a life of his own. But I never really believed this particular rumor. Clearly some things have taken place in that young man's life to lead him

[Bori]

to where he is today, though.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, I'm really. I'm glad you said that. I actually think this is the perfect transition. We're going to take a break because when we come back, I actually did a bunch of research on that very subject and might have some answers as to what happened to Bow Wow and others. I did some research on a few others as well. So we'll we'll take a break. We'll be back with more Kid Fury and more My Mama Told Me.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Bori]

Why would I want to hurt you?

[Commercial Announcer]

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He's coming after my family.

Cape Fear, streaming June 5th on Apple TV.

[Kal Penn]

Hey, everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook book project, Hail Mary Massive Sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo. Is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply, emotionally affected me, and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

[Kal Penn]

Listen to Irsay the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Langston Kerman]

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[Bori]

It's sleek, it's sexy.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on. You want to tell them what we have?

[Bori]

Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is really fun. We have a two tone hat, a alien dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then we have the enamel pin with the alien who has a koofie on it says my mama told me. And then we have T shirts that say proud little mama, which is who you are.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, you can buy the merch now. Go to mymamatoldme.merchcentral.com and we want you to have all the sweet stuff. So get it.

[Bori]

We are back and we are talking all things Lil Bow Wow limousine. No, listen, we're back.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, we are.

[Bori]

It's going where it's going. Yeah, it's going where it's going.

[Kid Fury]

We're talking.

[Bori]

Yeah. Legs didn't get it back on the rails. This is why you do what you do and I do what I do.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. No, hey, we all play different positions out here. As far as Bow Wow being sexually assaulted by his security guard and or his limo driver, which we all agree was very. A variant of the rumor. But he did a recent interview, somewhat recent interview on Vlad TV where Vlad, the hero in this story, outright asked him if he was ever raped.

[Bori]

Jesus Christ, Vlad would be the one to do it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, that's sort of what the fuck, man. Like, you don't got no morals inside of this. Where you don't. You don't even like, see him as a human being at all enough to be like, well, I'm not just going to ask him on camera if he was raped as a child, but Vlad did. Cool.

[Bori]

That sucks.

[Kid Fury]

DJ Vlad, known for his tact and respect for others.

[Langston Kerman]

He really loves the black community and he shows it every day. But he outright asks him and Bow Wow tells him that it's fucking ridiculous. He says he has no clue where that even started. And he goes on to say that he first heard the rumors while walking through an airport in Paris and was so flabbergasted by it that he actually called a radio station or multiple radio Stations to put it on record that that's not true.

[Kid Fury]

Ok.

[Bori]

I hear what you're saying.

[Langston Kerman]

Yep.

[Bori]

There is a history of people calling radio stations.

[Commercial Announcer]

Lying,

[Langston Kerman]

that is.

[Bori]

You have to acknowledge that if the radio station is the first place you go to clear the air.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Bori]

Sometimes it gives a Ray J vibe.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bori]

Also, I just smacked Fab in the club. You know what I mean?

[Kid Fury]

Was he like 14 when he called him? What? Yeah, this was a long time ago.

[Bori]

It was a really long time ago.

[Langston Kerman]

It was a very young man and was apparently on the radio being like, that's not true.

[Bori]

He had to be like 12 or 13, because we're the same age, I'm pretty sure. Let me check up.

[Kid Fury]

How old was it? Parisian radio. I ain't never hear no goddamn interview of him talking about this.

[Langston Kerman]

I'm glad. I'm glad you asked that, because this is what makes it even crazier. He claims that he called a radio station in Philippines. So, like, he's in Paris. This is pre. Any version of international calling on cell phones and shit. And spends hard earned money on a satellite phone to be able to call the radio station in Philly to deny that he's been raped.

[Bori]

Also, and this is just me in my head, if you were gonna call Philly, why wouldn't you just call New York?

[Langston Kerman]

That's another one. Why not?

[Bori]

Hot.

[Langston Kerman]

Hot. 97 is the most famous radio station maybe. And you didn't call them. You didn't call the main one. You were like, nah, Philly's gotta hear this first.

[Kid Fury]

I do think under these circumstances, a heterosexual male or someone who wants to be perceived as one would go through any lengths to clear up such a rumor. I think that they would climb directly into an active volcano and fight Balrog. If it meant, you know, to, you know, clear up any idea, any conception. They may have had butt sex.

[Langston Kerman]

So I'll burn my face off before I let somebody think I'm even remotely gay. It's like, well, that's not even the main focus here, man. You were assaulted. Let's.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Bori]

Crime ass.

[Langston Kerman]

Let's just focus on that part that you were. He's like, not at all. But I ain't gay.

[Kid Fury]

Should be in prison.

[Bori]

Yeah. Also, who was it who told him at the airport in Paris, Right.

[Kid Fury]

Were you walking by an Auntie Ann's and just heard it? Someone at the gate just say in French, I'm so, so sorry.

[Langston Kerman]

Can't you address the rumors? And he's like, I gotta call Philly. I gotta get on the phone with Philly.

[Kid Fury]

Bajo's such a liar that I. Even this I'm questioning. It's not even like a logical. I just. Just did what?

[Bori]

There's no logic to it. Because also, what time of day was it?

[Langston Kerman]

Unclear. I will say that's a big part of this.

[Bori]

What time of day was it?

[Langston Kerman]

The original source, according to Snopes, of the earliest appearance of this rumor online is February 26, 2001. So bow wow would have been 14 years old, I believe, by that point, and thus old enough, I guess, to maintain his composure while denying his sexual assault on Philly radio stations.

[Kid Fury]

Also, as a 14 year old with adults in your life, why was it up to you to go forward and address your alleged assault?

[Bori]

Cause let's be honest, he wasn't making any of his decisions at this point.

[Langston Kerman]

No.

[Bori]

We all saw the diary episode where he had to ask his mom if he could buy the whip. And she was.

[Kid Fury]

I was about to say, wasn't she his manager?

[Bori]

Yeah, yeah. Like, there's no situation where she's like, all right, here's the quarter. Yeah,

[Kid Fury]

yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

They're just walking through the airport and she's like, bow wow, what you gonna do?

[Bori]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She puts it on him. She puts it on.

[Langston Kerman]

This is a difficult position they put you in.

[Kid Fury]

I didn't raise no bitch. He took his fucking quarter.

[Bori]

And going, you take these franks and you put them in that freaky porn foam machine.

[Langston Kerman]

The little ones are dimes put right.

[Bori]

No, that's a lie.

[Langston Kerman]

Sort of unrelated. But actually, kid, you asked, what did in fact happen to Bow Wow? And it sort of got me asking other questions. One of the things that I started to stumble upon was a correlating but unrelated video from a former security guard at the Tunnel nightclub in New York who claims to have witnessed seeing Bow Wow get sexually assaulted, not by a driver or security guard, but instead by a. And I'm quoting here, big booty Puerto Rican chick from Newark, New Jersey, by Bronx street in the projects. He says in the video.

[Bori]

Wait, wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This happened at the tunnel.

[Langston Kerman]

At the tunnel. Bow wow is there.

[Bori]

Assaulted by a big booty Puerto Rican woman chick?

[Langston Kerman]

Yes. From Newark, New Jersey, Bronx street in the projects.

[Bori]

How did he know that that's where she was from?

[Langston Kerman]

Thank you for asking that question. He knows that that's where she's from. Because he goes on to say, and I want to make sure I'm getting his quote exactly the way he says it. He Says why you raped that little nigga? He says, you know, he was only 15, 16 when he came into this motherfucker. You did him dirty. But shouts out to you because you did half of the security dirty, too. Shouts out to you, I ain't mad at you. End quote.

[Kid Fury]

Wait, I don't want to be.

[Bori]

Yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, yeah, take your time.

[Kid Fury]

Yo, is this person okay?

[Bori]

Did they. Nobody's okay here. Nobody's okay.

[Kid Fury]

Might they have stumbled upon this person in the projects themselves? On the street?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. I will say across the corner. I will say that the interview is up against some brick that looks distinctly projectian. You know what I mean? It looks. It looks especially unkempt behind him.

[Kid Fury]

So do they mean, like, just a statutory thing? Is this pegging? Are we talking about, like, what.

[Bori]

I'm so.

[Kid Fury]

I'm lost.

[Bori]

It's unclear because she, I'm assuming, was also with half of security.

[Langston Kerman]

He's saying that this was such a loose woman that she was willing to suck just about any dick there, including half of security and Bow Wow. Or he's suggesting that she sucked off security in order to get to little Bow Wow and thus sexually assault him.

[Bori]

I'm sure tons of people made that mistake.

[Kid Fury]

Look a little bit more believable. Yes. Bow wow being underage around horny, shiftless niggas and bitches and then some stuff happening that shouldn't have happened. I believe that because unfortunately, n do this type of shit, and N in hip hop, brag about it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

There are many rappers who are like, oh, my goodness, the day my son turned 12, I bought him his first hoe.

[Bori]

There's that terrible Lil Wayne story.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, I actually. I'm glad you brought that up. I did want to correlate that Lil Wayne story. And if we all remember, Lil Wayne is. It's during the Carter documentary, he's doing that unauthorized Unauthorized where he's talking to Lil Twist about the fact that he's 15 and isn't admittedly getting pussy yet and tells him he's gonna have to do him like baby and them did him, and then tells the story, and he uses the exact phrase where he. That he was raped at 11 and he loved it. And then he goes on to say he remembers specifically the words that baby said. Suck Lil Wayne's dick. He says. He goes on to say, you suck dick so good you doing all these niggas around here. Why don't you suck Lil Wayne's little ass dick?

[Kid Fury]

Lil Wayne famously fine now,

[Bori]

not going

[Kid Fury]

through any issues emotionally, physically, yeah, his

[Langston Kerman]

dreads aren't snapping off.

[Bori]

No type of arrested development going on. Just a regular. However old he is, man.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, he's not hanging out with Skip Bayless for some reason. That doesn't seem like a victim to me.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, still shouting out Trump on mixtape. He's great.

[Bori]

It was so complicated.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, I didn't really have too much of a problem believing that one. Even though it's still like sir crack. Why are you on the. On the street corner talking about like some. I don't know, I'm worried about niggas sometimes. Like, sometimes.

[Langston Kerman]

If you want to feel even sadder about the video, it goes on where he, he basically goes like, shouts out to you, ma, I heard you got eight kids now. Damn, sucks to be you. He starts like rubbing her nose in the fact that she has children despite admitting that she fucked everybody at security at Tunnel, including Lil Bow Wow. It's like, bro, I don't know what this game is, but you're just, you're being sad and you're not doing what you think you are to this lady and a kids.

[Kid Fury]

That lady's probably paid in New York government assistance alone. I'm not mad at her. I don't really understand where we're mad about.

[Bori]

I hope there's a bright side for her. I hope the highlight wasn't, you know, sucking 10 dicks at the Tunnel that day.

[Kid Fury]

We have to consider the fact that dick sucking is fun for a lot of people that suck dick. Sucking the dick of someone who is not of legal age is nothing to clap hands about.

[Langston Kerman]

Sure.

[Kid Fury]

But if you're just like, you know what? That is my shit. And there are 10 of them in here and I'm going for a record. I don't feel like there's anything to show shaming this person about, you know? Yeah. You were in a room with a 15 year old getting their dick sucked and you're proudly on a street corner now telling their business about it. I really don't feel like anybody has any wins, you know?

[Bori]

Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

And more importantly, a 15 year old that you're acknowledging did not want what was happening to them. Like, it's, it's. He's not framing this as like, oh, I saw him get his dick sucked. He's saying, I saw you rape him. Why would you do that? Also, you sucked me and my friend's dick. So shouts out to you. And it's like, bro, you gotta reflect.

[Bori]

There's no order that this is a good night.

[Kid Fury]

The police are right there

[Langston Kerman]

and I will Say along the lines of our earlier sort of conspiratorial work. That does make me feel even more certain that there is an intentional effort to let this sort of violence happen. Right. Is like the police are. Are right there. These are public conversations that just sort of get stuffed down. And we're encouraged to tell people, no, we're good. We'll brush that shit off. When in fact, you should have called the police and this should have been resolved and made our community a brighter, safer place.

[Kid Fury]

And I know, like, getting pussy is, you know, oh, great. I've been doing this since I was six or whatever. I literally know people who this thing, this type of thing has happened to. And it's not fun. It's absolutely governed a lot of the ways that they look at intimacy, sex, like, vulnerability, all kinds of shit. So I genuinely don't know why so many of y' all are even allowed to have children or be near them. And you say these things and then you still can. You still can. You can still go hang around kids. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. But let's talk about lil NASA Ex, you know, dressing like Jesus and twerking.

[Bori]

Completely agreed. I don't love the use of y' all in that breakdown.

[Kid Fury]

That's fair.

[Langston Kerman]

You know what you've been doing, Bori.

[Bori]

Don't you even joke like that. Langston, that's not. Now's not the fucking time for your light skin shenanigans. Fucking relax.

[Kid Fury]

And I like judge by.

[Ray Porter]

Wow.

[Kid Fury]

He's just on the Internet talking about he. He wishes baby mama would get hit by a bus or something.

[Langston Kerman]

My boy stay active. You know, he got work to do and he ain't gonna rest just cause he's been sexually assaulted.

[Kid Fury]

Look at his childhood.

[Langston Kerman]

I will say that's why he spent

[Kid Fury]

like 10 years as little mama and just, you know, you want to just take a step back to try something else.

[Langston Kerman]

That's his Chris Gaines. That's his Sasha Fierce. He needed to step away from whatever that identity was. Damn.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Bori]

Why would I want to hurt you?

[Commercial Announcer]

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He's coming after my family.

Cape Fear, streaming June 5th on Apple TV.

[Kal Penn]

Hey, everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Earsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook book Project Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah dude, me too.

[Kal Penn]

Listen to Irsay the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Langston Kerman]

We're calling upon you because we have, we have new merch. We have very exciting merch that we are now selling and it's, it's fucking great. We love it so much.

[Bori]

It's sleek, it's sexy.

[Langston Kerman]

Come on, you wanna tell em what we have?

[Bori]

Yeah, we have three different types of hats which is really fun. We have a two tone hat, a alien dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki Then we have the enamel pin with the alien who has a koofie on it, says, my mama told me. And then we have T shirts that say, proud little mama, which is who you are.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah, you can buy the merch now. Go to my mamatoldme.merchcentral.com and we want you to have all the sweet stuff. So get. I will say that to the point that you're making about people not necessarily finding this cool anymore. Lil Wayne, in fact, has a interview with Jimmy Kimmel where Kimmel kind of, like, presses him in a weird way to talk about his sexual assault, but not.

[Bori]

That's what I was gonna say. Who thought that was gonna be the guy to take that to task.

[Langston Kerman]

But they don't.

[Bori]

That's crazy.

[Langston Kerman]

But this is how crazy it is. They're not talking about it as sexual assault. He's just like, hey, you had sex at 11? That's wild. Tell us. Tell us what the fuck happened.

[Bori]

Like, it's a couch bit.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, a couch bit dog. And then at one.

[Kid Fury]

That's so gross.

[Langston Kerman]

At one point in it, Lil Wayne kind of does go like, hey, it wasn't cool, and it wasn't okay. And, in fact, he also says that the girl who did it was 14 at the time.

[Bori]

God damn it.

[Langston Kerman]

Thus, this is not only just sexual assault, but predatory in a pyramid scheme Y kind of way. Anyway,

[Kid Fury]

my mind just went to, like, at the time, like, Birdman was already, like, you know, in the streets and running, whatever the fuck. And I guess making music, like, you could have not involved children in sexual stuff. Like, you could literally just go do whatever wild, deviant stuff with whoever is consenting and, you know, just bring the kid a Transformers or a teenage. Like, why?

[Bori]

I don't.

[Langston Kerman]

I just don't think that that man has a moral code. I think that that that don't exist for babies.

[Kid Fury]

So there's just too many niggas at large in general who are behaving this way, whether they open. Because a lot of y' all not saying nothing. Cause you know you ain't shit. But it's an alarming amount of niggas

[Bori]

who are, like, there liberal. You sure, y'?

[Commercial Announcer]

All.

[Kid Fury]

I'm talking about the listener at home. The people outside of.

[Bori]

You're talking to the little mamas, not us.

[Kid Fury]

That's okay, right?

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. None of this story feels good. I should note that. I also did some. Some more research on a few other child stars. Feeling like, well, we should know at least what happened with these individuals. Obviously, the Orlando Brown is a perfect sort of example of what the fuck happened to that young man. Todd Bridges talks openly about having been sexually assaulted when he was coming up on Diff'rent Strokes. And then I bumped into Gary Coleman and that got real sad. I don't know if y' all remember when he was on Divorce Court, but it ain't great. And it then sort of like makes a even more complicated ballooning where he ends up on Inside Access, I believe this show was. And this is back when Niecy Nash was still a host on that show. I don't know if y' all remember that.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Bori]

Oh, I didn't even know.

[Langston Kerman]

Insider might have been what it was called, not Inside Access, but either way, Niecy Nash used to be like a gossip host. And Gary Coleman came on and they had a guest host who pressed him hella hard about his divorce claiming, based off of his ex wife's claims, that he was physically violent and sort of emotionally abusive with her, that he would stomp and throw tantrums and also hit her. And the lady presses him so hard that he walks off set like, Gary Coleman fully, like, storms off and then has an aneurysm, but has written in his will that she gets all the money despite him being married to a new lady.

[Kid Fury]

Lady.

[Langston Kerman]

It's complicated.

[Kid Fury]

This also makes me just randomly think of Raz B. Oh, come on, dawg. Yeah, the whole history of not even just B2K, but a few groups over at TUG or whatever Chris Stokes.

[Langston Kerman]

Chris Stokes was called.

[Kid Fury]

It just a weird, creepy sort of predicaments and photo shoots that he would have them in.

[Langston Kerman]

You saw that photo shoot with IMX where they're all in the bed in white underwear together.

[Bori]

It's like, yeah, look, that's formerly immature. I don't know how to look that up. Langston. Yeah.

[Langston Kerman]

Olivia looked at us.

[Bori]

Throw it in this. Throw it in the group chat. You got to.

[Kid Fury]

He used to have B2K dual weird ass, like, cutesy poses piled on top of each other and shit. It was just like. Like weird stuff. But yeah, I remember very clearly that day because those kinds of rumors had already been surrounding Chris Stokes. And then when they aroused the was like, yes. Not only is it true, it happened to me personally.

[Bori]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

He said there was a video of him in the street. Like, actually, it is not true. Chris Stokes never did anything to me. And it was like. And now he's fucked up.

[Langston Kerman]

Like, he's a raspberry.

[Bori]

He's on Bad Boys. He's on Zeus.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

After being on Zeus, he was in a psych ward and recorded, like, trying to jump out of a window or something like that.

[Langston Kerman]

So, yeah, no, he's. He's down pretty bad. And I'll say none of them are thriving. It's not like, oh, like, the other members are doing good. Omarion seems the most centered, and he has burned every bridge possible with all the humanity around him. So I don't know that. You know what I mean? Like, they hate his guts. And that nigga's just sort of crosses his legs and prays all day. Yeah, Yoga Fuck. Damn, it's dark.

[Bori]

God damn it.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah. So as far. I guess maybe this is where we dismount. I don't know. As far as this conspiracy goes, Bori, where do you stand? Where do you feel like all of this lives for you?

[Bori]

Listen, man, something's happening to these kids. That's where I stand. Do I think this specifically? There's no way to tell, man.

[Langston Kerman]

Yeah.

[Bori]

You know what I mean? I think it's a possibility. Am I sold on it? I guess not. But that's not particularly comforting at this moment.

[Langston Kerman]

Kid, how about yourself? Where does this live for you?

[Kid Fury]

It's gonna live in the past, where it belongs, mostly. But I. I agree. I don't believe it. But there is a strangeness, I think, even to your earlier point of it. The fact that it was such a widespread international rumor that never made an actual publication, never was on the news or anything, but has so many common parts of the guy. Like the fact that we all say limo, we all talk about Station Wilt says 32. It's wild. So that's kind of strange to me. I don't know if that speaks more to, like, gossip culture or the way rumors spread, but outside of that one instant, it's obvious that kids, especially in the entertainment industry, don't seem to have enough eyes on them.

[Bori]

It's not for kids. I think we. At some point, we just have to. Yes, people love watching Corey in the house. It's just not for kids. They do. We should. I kidding.

[Langston Kerman]

I think.

[Bori]

I don't even know why. That was my go to. That was very odd.

[Langston Kerman]

My boy likes what he likes.

[Bori]

No, I don't even. I'm not a Corey in the house guy. I just couldn't think of anything that I wanted one that we hadn't said yet. The point is, it's not for kids. It's just not for kids. It's just not. It's just not. Not.

[Langston Kerman]

I think whether or not this is True. There is an emotional truth underneath it that we would do well to acknowledge that at the end of the day, we are supporting and promoting a violence against these children, even if the violence is not the sexual graphic one that we associate with Lil Bow Wow. And maybe that's really where all of this is coming from. It's rooted from a jealousy, obviously, from a bunch of people who watched a small boy become successful in a way that they couldn't make sense of. And the only way that they could think to chop him down is by saying that he got sexually assaulted. And we say that fully knowing that he could have very well been sexually assaulted and didn't give a fuck.

[Kid Fury]

Wild.

[Bori]

God damn it.

[Kid Fury]

Why not? Just like that nigga can't rap because he's just something things small like, hey,

[Langston Kerman]

I don't think he's gonna grow anymore. That seems. That would have been a good guess and you could have really landed on something and instead they were just like, nah, fuck that.

[Kid Fury]

There's gonna be people who say Beyonce can't sing. People say Violu Davis can't act. Haters exist. But, my God, of the things to pull out of your hater box.

[Langston Kerman]

Damn.

[Kid Fury]

Christ.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, I think we did it.

[Kid Fury]

I don't have any more questions about this parts of the.

[Bori]

I don't have any more statements for sure.

[Langston Kerman]

Well, meeting adjourned. Can you tell the people where they can find you and what cool shit you have going on?

[Kid Fury]

I don't know why you'd want to do that, but as these amazing hosts said at the top of the program, you can find me on a podcast called the Read. If you need me to spell that, then reading should probably be your first priority. So I'm not gonna do that. And then, yeah, season two of rap shit just wrapped up. It's unhinged, it's crazy, it's wild, it's fun. So check that out too. And then other than that, you know, just leave me alone. Don't bother me.

[Bori]

Don't.

[Langston Kerman]

Don't bother.

[Kid Fury]

Stop.

[Langston Kerman]

Cut it out. You gotta cut it the fuck out. Don't bother. Bori. You wanna tell people where they can find you?

[Bori]

Cool guy jokes87 on Instagram. All my info is there. Come out and see me. Live shows and all that.

[Langston Kerman]

Hell yeah. And as always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman. And I've got some dates coming up. Mike dropped on February 2nd and then was February 19th. Come to the Green Mill in Chicago and see me. Shoot this hour. I'm really excited about. And as always, if you want to send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories. If you want to come to the defenses of these child stars and prove in fact fact they're all healthier and more well maintained than the rest of society, write it all to mymamapodmail.com we would love to hear from you. That's the whole shebang. Bye bitch.

[Bori]

The ozone layer owes me money.

[Kid Fury]

Martians have been in Turkey stuffing.

[Bori]

Y' all can't tell me nothing.

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