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Mini Episode Voice
Motherfucking mini episode. Mini episode. Motherfucking mini episode.
Zach Fox
Welcome little mamas and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.
Langston Kerman
Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black and conspiracy theories. Our guest today, you know him from goddamn everything. Give it up for Zack Fox, ladies and gentlemen.
Guest Speaker
I just think it's always funnier when black people get to be seated in power. You know there's gonna be funnier things that happen.
Langston Kerman
Kony 2012.
Guest Speaker
Coney 2012. You're gonna get Obama dipping his pinky in the flint water and being like that tastes good to me.
Langston Kerman
Y' all trippin' this, bro.
Zach Fox
That was the most diabolical. He said, bring me some of that water.
Guest Speaker
I'm part.
Langston Kerman
He said, Look Ms. Flint, shut your ass up. Complaining about the water.
Guest Speaker
Tastes good to me. I don't know what y' all talking about.
Langston Kerman
That's not rust. That's seasoning. We get seasoned, y' all water.
Guest Speaker
This is old bay, man. This is collard green water, man.
Zach Fox
What do you think the last time Obama had tap water was for real?
Langston Kerman
Whoa.
Guest Speaker
Damn.
Langston Kerman
That's a great question.
Guest Speaker
Like, genuine cup full.
Zach Fox
Cup full. And not on some, like, three in the morning. I'm going back to bed. Let me just. You know, when did he pop it out of the.
Guest Speaker
When did he become, like, politically sort.
Langston Kerman
Of on the map?
Guest Speaker
On the map in Chicago.
Langston Kerman
I think it's early 2000s that he starts to. He's like a state senator or he's like a organizer, I think, at first. And then state senator.
Guest Speaker
I'm gonna say this. I don't think Obama is having a full cup of tap water after College dropout came out.
Langston Kerman
Wow.
Zach Fox
I think that's fair. I think that. Because I remember my mom's friend, she told me about him, and she was like, he's gonna be the first black president. And I was in, like. I must have been in, like, seventh grade when she said that. Like, so it was probably, like, right around 2,099.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. He was making an imprint before he became any version of, like, a national conversation, man.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Zach Fox
You know what, though? I say he kept drinking tap water. We don't get all those drone strikes.
Langston Kerman
Whoa. You think tap water would have kept him reasonable?
Zach Fox
I think it keeps you.
Guest Speaker
It does keep you humble.
Mini Episode Voice
Yeah.
Zach Fox
I think.
Guest Speaker
Always, like, fluoride keeps you.
Langston Kerman
Nice and sedated.
Guest Speaker
Just, like, mitigate some of those baser instincts of humanity. Little fluoride.
Zach Fox
And that's why they put it in there.
Guest Speaker
Cause y' all start getting uppity.
Langston Kerman
Y' all acting up. You need to get some fluoride in. You find God.
Guest Speaker
Absolute power corrupts absolutely unless. Unless it's fluoridated, man.
Zach Fox
Damn. I don't even want to talk about a theory.
Langston Kerman
We.
Guest Speaker
Man, we got too many talk like that.
Zach Fox
That's gonna get us Terrence Howard, man.
Guest Speaker
He's right around the corner for y' all, man.
Zach Fox
Brother, he came.
Guest Speaker
Y' all tried.
Mini Episode Voice
How?
Zach Fox
We were talking in the car after he called in.
Langston Kerman
Oh, he called in. We talked to him on the phone.
Guest Speaker
I think I saw this.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, we FaceTimed with him via Brandon T. Jackson.
Guest Speaker
And he was super nice.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he was nice.
Zach Fox
It wasn't not nice. It wasn't not nice.
Langston Kerman
It was not not nice. But it could have Gone wrong at any moment.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You know what I mean?
Guest Speaker
That could have been Yalls Ray J in the Breakfast Club.
Langston Kerman
Absolutely, man.
Zach Fox
I'm going to get my other ghost at one point. That's all comedy.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Zach Fox
Ray J is our Andy Kaufman, because that was incredible.
Langston Kerman
Ray J is. Ray J is incredible.
Zach Fox
That was really incredible.
Guest Speaker
You're right. You're right.
Zach Fox
He said, is that your car? I said, heck, yeah, that's my car.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. If Terrence Howard was Yalls Ray J in the Breakfast Club, who do you think that he's threatening to come? Fuck y' all.
Zach Fox
Oh.
Guest Speaker
Cause Ray J had the questions.
Langston Kerman
Here's what I think is he sees us and he goes, I'm gonna make y' all niggas fuck each other.
Guest Speaker
Oh, okay, Okay.
Langston Kerman
I think he's like, y' all both.
Guest Speaker
He's like, I have the science.
Langston Kerman
Y' all both are weak little booty boys to me.
Guest Speaker
I'll change one electron, make y' all niggas gay.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Switch y' all atoms up.
Zach Fox
That's crazy. And the gay atoms, nigga, that's the new math. U plus U equals.
Guest Speaker
Wow. Fruitcake your molecules. You keep talking shit.
Zach Fox
That's patent 105 gay.
Langston Kerman
Now watch me play the get song.
Guest Speaker
Well, I'll slick back my hair, come down there, and use science to make y' all niggas gay.
Langston Kerman
My name is Terence Deshawn. You better. You better remember who you talking to.
Guest Speaker
Well, I got a gay equation in my phone right now.
Zach Fox
Don't make me.
Guest Speaker
Don't make.
Zach Fox
I got the codes. Hold on.
Guest Speaker
Hold on.
Langston Kerman
Let me carry the fruit. One plus eight. Carry the fruit, boy, win.
Guest Speaker
I ain't even gotta be there. I'll hack y' all Wi Fi router and send a gay signal.
Zach Fox
I use 5G to make y' all niggas nut. It's in the towers.
Guest Speaker
It's in the towers.
Zach Fox
That's why I got this hat on, so they can't make me.
Langston Kerman
I got 28 patents on your gay ass right now.
Guest Speaker
You heard of Bluetooth, nigga? This rainbow tooth N. I'll make you gay with a JBL speaker.
Langston Kerman
Talking about. Everybody dance now.
Guest Speaker
Ah, he's gonna hear that.
Zach Fox
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
It would be worth it.
Zach Fox
He's gonna take our man.
Langston Kerman
That was the main threat was that he's. He's working on these things called man cards. Not physical cards, but just.
Zach Fox
No, because we thought it was like Rush cards because we said, let us.
Langston Kerman
We were so excited.
Guest Speaker
No, this is. Okay. What does he mean, though?
Langston Kerman
He means.
Zach Fox
He means don't let somebody fuck you in a butt.
Guest Speaker
Really.
Langston Kerman
Don't be gay. Don't let Hollywood make you present as gay.
Guest Speaker
Okay.
Langston Kerman
He would never kiss a man. He would never let anybody pretend to kiss him, any of that shit. He said that and then I looked at David very concerned. If it was gonna come up that I've done that multiple times.
Zach Fox
Yeah, you do be kissing.
Langston Kerman
I've kissed men. I've agreed to all sorts of simulated whatnot.
Guest Speaker
Show me where it's at.
Zach Fox
I don't think he researched it, though. I don't think he watched Insecure.
Langston Kerman
No, I don't think he.
Zach Fox
I don't think he's watched a sitcom. I think the game was probably the last.
Guest Speaker
I think he doesn't do research.
Zach Fox
Ye.
Guest Speaker
You mean that nigga don't be googling stuff?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I think. I think he's probably just in this house.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
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Guest Speaker
Dang. So Man Card, that was what he was put.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he said, like, he's big on the man card.
Zach Fox
It's like the man. Like, you can't.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it was a. It was a wild day, was.
Guest Speaker
Terrence.
Zach Fox
We thought it was gonna break the Internet.
Guest Speaker
A QR code, like, man card thing, or is it. No, it's more in the spiritual.
Langston Kerman
Spiritual, yeah. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Okay.
Langston Kerman
Symbolic.
Guest Speaker
It's. And you're not on here, but I.
Zach Fox
Ain'T saying he should start Man Card University. I'm like, the Tates did it.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, right.
Zach Fox
I don't have much else to say about that. I was just. For a second I was like, no, we need a black Tates. And then I was like, no, that'd be bad.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. No, and also, they aren't they half black. I was about to say they kind of. They don't want to be, but yeah.
Zach Fox
Yeah, they're like British.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. They got some weird fucked up shit going on. Them two boys ain't right.
Guest Speaker
Really?
Langston Kerman
The Andrew Tate and his brother?
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
What's his name? Tristan.
Zach Fox
Tristan.
Guest Speaker
I didn't even know he had a brother.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, looks just like him, but balding and not ready to deal with it. Like, Andrew Tate just cut his shit. Tristan Tate has the exact same situation, but.
Guest Speaker
And don't they got the straight up just sex criminal rapists? Yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
Like Romanian and like. And like, went over there so that they could do it the way they've always wanted to do it.
Guest Speaker
The ancient way.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
They doing the episode. Episode one of the Wire, season two.
Zach Fox
Oh, man.
Guest Speaker
Shipping container. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Old world. Old world shit.
Zach Fox
They really made you think that season was gonna keep going up and then it just kind of didn't.
Langston Kerman
Oh, y' all don't like season two?
Zach Fox
No, I don't really like it at all. I like. I like. Which one is where the towers fell. Three.
Langston Kerman
Three? Yeah, I think so.
Zach Fox
And brother Mazone is in three.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Zach Fox
Three. The best four next. Then one.
Langston Kerman
Wow.
Zach Fox
Then two.
Langston Kerman
I think I'm a four guy.
Guest Speaker
I'm a four guys.
Zach Fox
Yeah, that's reasonable.
Guest Speaker
The school's one and four.
Zach Fox
Yeah. And then with the end with Randy and it's like, yeah, you gonna help me? That was good two though. I couldn't get behind it.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, two. Two took a minute, but once they finally stopped building the white story and it just started to play, I fucked with it.
Guest Speaker
I think that was just a case of like the writers got too comfortable maybe. I don't know. But if you look at who wrote that, it's a bunch of Peter Griffins. So I feel like, you know what I mean? A bunch of Peter Griffins. You write one season of a good nigga show, you like season two, like.
Zach Fox
Let'S talk about our shit.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Talk about these Ukrainian sex slaves, you.
Langston Kerman
Know, I wonder if a part of them was like, I can't believe we made it through that shit. Let's just go back to where we belong.
Guest Speaker
Right, right, right.
Langston Kerman
We were fucking up, we were being crazy. The fact that they're saying this is good is nuts. Let's just, we gotta go back home. Cause we were acting up.
Guest Speaker
No, it's truly like if all of us three made like the best white show, we all made Yellowstone.
Langston Kerman
Uh huh.
Zach Fox
That would be.
Guest Speaker
And season one cracks off as season two. We're like, what if it was just snow on the bluff? What would we just like give a nigga a camera and like watch him sell crack all day? Like completely depart from what was going on with that white man.
Langston Kerman
But then at some point a white man walks into the hood and he's like, we're gonna clean this up.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
He's like, I will say they don't mix. Don't do that.
Guest Speaker
Doesn't match.
Langston Kerman
Don't do that.
Zach Fox
I will say with my comedy brain, I think I could make the greatest white television show of all time.
Guest Speaker
I've been saying it's.
Zach Fox
It would be satire. It would be satire for me. Because Yellowstone is like, think about it, if somebody else made Yellowstone, that's hilarious.
Langston Kerman
Do you think, and I like what you're saying, but do you think you have the ability to remain straight faced in the character the entire time of writing it? Not just writing it, but the selling of it.
Guest Speaker
Selling.
Zach Fox
That's a difficulty. Cause I think I would have to write it in a vacuum. I think I would literally have to like rent a cabin and just write the whole shit in like six weeks. Right. And I think with That I think the selling of it would be difficult.
Langston Kerman
Because that's what made David Simon, frankly, a psychopath, is that not only did he write this show where he's like, I am going to tell the story of these black people in Baltimore, but I am going to sell it. I am going to look people in the face and say, I am the source for the truth that comes out of this space.
Zach Fox
That's the hardest shit. You're right.
Langston Kerman
That's where you gotta be a fucking nutcase to be like, nope, nobody else should be writing this.
Guest Speaker
Sure.
Langston Kerman
There's not a single human being on earth. Despite how I look, despite my background, despite my lack of relationship with the communities, I'm about to endorse it.
Guest Speaker
But in that dynamic, I think it's the flip case for us. You know what I'm saying? Like Peter Griffin going to Baltimore to sell them on the idea of him making the show about the effects of 400 years of slavery is definitely going to be like a Sisyphus level task where we would be just pushing the rock the other direction down the mountain, making things infinitely easier for ourselves. Just going in FX and saying, we finna talk about y' all.
Zach Fox
And here's what I'm saying. We don't even try hard. We say, I got it. The office too.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
What's up, boy? They dick gonna bust through their back to the office.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Zach Fox
Dwight got a kid now, he works there.
Guest Speaker
Yep.
Zach Fox
Give me a million dollars.
Guest Speaker
And they're looking at us like, so you want, like you want Mahershala to lead? And we're like, nope, nope.
Zach Fox
Give me the chalamet, boy.
Guest Speaker
Yep.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I like how you pronounce his name. No, interact. His work at all.
Guest Speaker
I genuinely think that pitch meeting, like, everybody would go their separate ways and they would be in the room like this and they'd be like, finally, they got it.
Zach Fox
Yeah, man.
Langston Kerman
We've been waiting on them.
Guest Speaker
We've been waiting on them.
Zach Fox
That's it. They're sick of hearing this stuff about they don't want our story.
Guest Speaker
They don't want our.
Zach Fox
They want our flavor on their story. They want to feel like us, but still be them.
Guest Speaker
And we could talk dog about.
Zach Fox
We could go crazy.
Langston Kerman
You know what bugs me about this? Is it it.
Zach Fox
We're doing it on camera. We should turn this off.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, turn it off. We should check this out before. Before Kenya sees it.
Langston Kerman
Whitish.
Guest Speaker
He'S coming. Rainbow.
Langston Kerman
Cancel my appointment.
Guest Speaker
Covered in his uncom. Whitish. The whole time it was Whitish.
Howie Mandel
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Guest Speaker
It'S all of us in Our Uber racing. His Uber.
Zach Fox
Netflix.
Langston Kerman
Wait a minute. Rashida Jones can play it just like before. I've already worked with him.
Guest Speaker
What was I thinking?
Langston Kerman
Blackish?
Guest Speaker
No, Whiteish, man.
Zach Fox
Damn. But I. This only bolstered the fact that I think I. I think that's really. There's money to be made.
Langston Kerman
I do. I. I think I agree with you. My only fear. And this is really more a fear for myself than maybe I can even apply to you two, is my. My only fear is that I wouldn't be able to do it. Like, I.
Guest Speaker
You don't got a stomach for it.
Langston Kerman
I. At some point. It's not stomach. I just would tell them what I'm doing at some point. You know what I mean? At some point, I'd be like, y' all know I'm making fun of you, right?
Zach Fox
No, man. And then you drop your heart of darkness like documentary afterwards.
Guest Speaker
But this my thing. This my thing, bro. You're projecting a little bit. This is my opinion. I don't know. I think you might be projecting onto white people our own level of concern about being made fun of in media.
Zach Fox
That's true. They don't give a fuck.
Guest Speaker
They care.
Zach Fox
They really don't think.
Guest Speaker
They care because there's no white allegiance. There's no.
Zach Fox
It's not even a unit. It's not a unit like that. It's a gas. It's not a solid. It's a gas.
Langston Kerman
Right.
Guest Speaker
There's no white coons.
Zach Fox
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
There are.
Guest Speaker
To us. We can point them out.
Langston Kerman
Sure, sure, sure.
Zach Fox
Where we go. You are.
Langston Kerman
A defector to your community, but they don't feel that way about it at all.
Zach Fox
They don't care. There's no. They are alone out here.
Guest Speaker
Wow.
Langston Kerman
You're making a good point. I'm almost giving myself too much power in this situation to think that if I went on some. If I went at Comic Con, it was like, y' all know I'm making fun of you.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
That they would somehow see themselves in the you I'm talking about.
Zach Fox
And they don't give a fuck even if they do.
Guest Speaker
Right?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Zach Fox
Look at the shit they like. Like the edgy, edgy shit. They just want to say shit, bro.
Langston Kerman
They don't.
Zach Fox
There's no anything.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. It really does. In a terrible way. It almost makes their racism seem human in a way that I've never.
Zach Fox
All right, now I feel like we've come around. You know what? It's time for us to take a break. We'll be back with more. Zach.
Langston Kerman
They were animals.
Zach Fox
More like Security more. My mama told me, like, those are people people.
Guest Speaker
God damn.
Langston Kerman
Zach. Tell. Tell the people where they can find you. What cool shit you got going on.
Guest Speaker
My name is Zack Fox. You can follow me on IG Zack Fox Twitter or X Zack Fox YouTube channel X. Watch me some Zack Fox.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
Guest Speaker
Okay. I'm on tour right now. I'm be doing Portola festival in San Francisco. I'm going to be doing a movement festival in Detroit. I'm going to be doing, not announced yet, but another crazy festival in Florida coming up. And I got tours and stuff and I'm going to be hitting the road a little bit. So on my website, zackfox.com it's an Excel spreadsheet with all of my dates on it. Me and my manager worked very hard on that Google sheet. So buy the tickets, go ahead.
Langston Kerman
And hey, change some dates if you want to. It's exciting.
Guest Speaker
Do whatever.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's open access, it's free for anybody.
Guest Speaker
I hit the. If you have the link, you can edit. So.
Langston Kerman
Bori, what you got?
Zach Fox
June 14th, I'm gonna be in Sacramento at the secret show. June 13th, I'm gonna be in Hayward. June 12th, I'm gonna be in Petaluma. And June 15th, I'm gonna be at Littlefield in Brooklyn. We should sell it out because I need the validation. I just want to feel good about the standup that I'm doing and I think it's very great.
Langston Kerman
Struck my man's ego. Come on out and as always, you can follow me. Langston Kerman. I ain't got no dates coming up and may never will again. That said, you can follow me on all social media platforms if you wan. Send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories. Send it all to mymamapodmail.com we would love to hear from you.
Zach Fox
All right.
Langston Kerman
We did it. Bye, bitch.
Mini Episode Voice
Mini episode Mini episode. Mini episode. Mini episode. Mini episode Motherfucking mini episode.
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Podcast Summary: "Making the Greatest White Television Show w/ Zack Fox: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode"
Podcast Information
The episode kicks off with a brief introduction by Langston Kerman and a series of advertisements, which are seamlessly skipped to dive into the core content. Zach Fox is introduced as the guest, bringing his unique comedic perspective to the discussion.
The conversation begins with a humorous take on political conspiracies surrounding former President Barack Obama. The guest makes a lighthearted claim:
“Coney 2012. You're gonna get Obama dipping his pinky in the flint water and being like that tastes good to me.” (02:47)
This segues into a playful exchange about whether Obama ever drank tap water again post his political rise, with Langston dismissing the notion humorously:
“That's not rust. That's seasoning. We get seasoned, y' all water.” (03:15)
The dialogue highlights the absurdity of certain conspiracy theories while maintaining a comedic tone.
The topic shifts to the conspiratorial belief that fluoride in water is used as a tool for mind control:
“Little fluoride… mitigate some of those baser instincts of humanity.” (04:57)
The discussion mockingly suggests that fluoride keeps leaders like Obama “humble” and “sedated,” poking fun at how such theories attempt to explain complex societal issues through simplistic means.
The conversation takes a turn towards Terrence Howard, comparing him to Ray J from The Breakfast Club. They joke about Howard’s potential influence and eccentric behavior:
“Ray J is our Andy Kaufman, because that was incredible.” (05:59)
The hosts humorously speculate on Howard's ability to alter personalities or societal norms through fantastical means, maintaining a satirical approach to the discussion.
A significant portion of the episode delves into the concept of "Man Cards," a satirical take on macho culture, intertwined with references to controversial figures like Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan:
“It was more in the spiritual, yeah. Symbolic.” (12:22)
They critique the misogynistic and problematic behaviors associated with Tate, using exaggerated humor to highlight the flaws in such personas.
The hosts explore the idea of creating the "greatest white television show," using Yellowstone as a benchmark. Zach Fox proposes a satirical version that mirrors Black experiences:
“I think that's really… There's money to be made.” (19:27)
The discussion touches on the challenges of authentically representing Black narratives within predominantly white media frameworks. They ponder the complexities of writing, selling, and maintaining the integrity of such a show, highlighting the systemic barriers in the entertainment industry.
“Only wrote this show where he's like, I am going to tell the story of these black people in Baltimore, but I am going to sell it.” (16:42)
Langston emphasizes the difficulty of a Black creator solely owning and narrating Black stories in mainstream media, underscoring the necessity of authentic representation.
The conversation delves deeper into racial dynamics within media representation. They discuss the fragmented nature of white alliances and the isolation felt by Black creators:
“There's no white allegiance. There's no… It's a gas. It's not a solid. It's a gas.” (20:24)
Langston articulates the challenges Black individuals face in advocating for their stories without sufficient support from white counterparts, highlighting the systemic issues that perpetuate racial divides in media.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listeners to follow their guests and support their endeavors. Zach Fox shares his tour dates and online presence, while Langston Kerman invites listeners to engage with the show by submitting their own conspiracy theories.
“Send it all to mymamapodmail.com we would love to hear from you.” (23:34)
The episode concludes with a final surge of advertisements, reinforcing the podcast’s partnership with sponsors, while maintaining the engaging and humorous tone throughout.
Satire as a Tool for Critique: The hosts effectively use humor and satire to dissect and critique societal and political issues, making complex topics more accessible and engaging for listeners.
Representation in Media: A recurring theme is the importance of authentic Black voices in storytelling and the challenges faced in a predominantly white media landscape. The discussion underscores the necessity for diversity in content creation to ensure genuine representation.
Absurdity of Conspiracy Theories: By humorously addressing various conspiracy theories, the podcast highlights the often frivolous nature of these beliefs while also emphasizing the human tendency to seek simplistic explanations for complex problems.
Cultural Commentary: The episode provides a sharp commentary on contemporary cultural phenomena, such as the influence of controversial figures like Andrew Tate, and the commodification of Black narratives in mainstream media.
"Making the Greatest White Television Show w/ Zack Fox: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode" offers an incisive and humorous exploration of media representation, societal conspiracies, and the intersection of race and storytelling. Langston Kerman and Zach Fox engage in a lively dialogue that not only entertains but also prompts listeners to reflect on deeper societal issues. Through their comedic lens, the hosts successfully navigate complex topics, making the podcast both informative and highly engaging for a diverse audience.