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Langston Kerman
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Langston Kerman
Olivia is sending over the acrostic poem Kuhn. As Terry Crews wrote, it is Conquer our own negativity. No.
Olivia
No.
David Borey
I hate him.
Langston Kerman
I hate him. I hate him.
David Borey
I hate that.
Langston Kerman
I hate that joke.
Olivia
How is this not a joke? Like how this is a real thing?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, and imagine those big old buff fingers typing that. Cause, you know, I bet he wrote.
David Borey
I bet he misses Hunt pecks, too. I bet he hunky pecks like a fucking loser.
Olivia
Probably wearing, like, dummy fake glasses to feel smart, like Rick Perry.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he put on an orange wife beater for this one.
David Borey
One of those mesh ones like the Jamaicans wear.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he was like, baby, where's my writing wife beater? I gotta. I gotta teach these motherfuckers. What's.
David Borey
The government growing Babies?
Langston Kerman
Microchips. And your babies. All koala bears are racist.
David Borey
The ozone layer owes me money. Marshy to venom turkey stuff. Y' all can't tell me nothing.
Langston Kerman
Doop, doop, doo, doo, doo, doo, doop, doop. Zatarans. Yep, there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the.
David Borey
Podcast that dives deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories.
Langston Kerman
And we finally work to prove that the stump at the Apollo Theater is the nigga equivalent of a cursed monkey paw. That's right. You rub that stump, and all of your dreams will come true. But at what cost? At what cost, ladies and gentlemen? Neo rubbed that stump. And yes, he got to make the song Ms. Independent, but in exchange, he has a terrible kind of bald head. Do you know what I mean? Not even a cool bald. It's a bad bald.
David Borey
This shit looks like Shane Battier.
Langston Kerman
It's weirdly shaped, and it's permanent. Receiving hairline.
David Borey
Imagine God blessing you with being a black man. And then you can't look good bald.
Langston Kerman
He's a black man. He dances better than anybody. He has it all. Except that goddamn cursed bald head. And he has to wear a fedora at 35. And it's SA. A sad story.
David Borey
You said dance is better than anybody. You don't feel that way.
Langston Kerman
Neo's a pretty great dancer, man.
David Borey
I don't feel better than anybody.
Langston Kerman
I was exaggerating. I took it too serious.
David Borey
Are you a Neo guy?
Langston Kerman
I like Neo.
David Borey
Are you a busted baby?
Langston Kerman
I'm a busted baby, sure.
David Borey
All right. You are my little sister.
Langston Kerman
I'm a busted baby. Part two.
David Borey
Part two? Yeah, you know, of course, of course, of course.
Langston Kerman
Part two.
David Borey
I'm not a monster. I'm not. You know, I never heard busted baby part one.
Langston Kerman
Nobody has. I'm not even 100% sure plies has heard busted baby part one.
David Borey
I hope the conspiracy is that they never made a part one.
Langston Kerman
I like that.
David Borey
And plies was like, what if we just hit him with part two? Nobody's gonna know.
Langston Kerman
Now that makes us mysterious. They're gonna try to dig through the catalogs, being like, where can I find part one? Yeah. Oh, man. Well, I'm Langston Kerman.
David Borey
I'm David Boury.
Langston Kerman
And we're already back on our bullshit, man. We ain't even. Like, we never left, huh?
David Borey
Like, we Busted Baby.
Langston Kerman
Like a part two to Busted Baby.
David Borey
Do you ever. Is that, like, a thing you could ever use in casual. Have you ever. Nobody's ever actually called someone a Busted baby, right?
Langston Kerman
I don't think so. Not like on a text.
David Borey
Like a text, like, hey, what's up, Busted Baby?
Langston Kerman
Hey, what you doing, Busted Baby?
David Borey
Or like, tell people. They're like, oh, are you with Michelle? And he's like, yeah, she's my Busted Baby.
Langston Kerman
That's my Busted Baby. That seems more natural. I think maybe you could say it to your friends and say, that's my busted baby. In 2008, I feel like you could say that. And maybe that worked, but never again.
David Borey
Nah, maybe we bring it back to Summer.
Langston Kerman
That's it. Listeners, if you care, please help us bring back Busted Baby. I think Busted Baby needs a revival. We are working hard here at the podcast to make Busted Baby become what it deserves to be again. And we need your help. Call your mom, your Busted baby. Call your granddad.
David Borey
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Langston Kerman
I mean this. Call your dad and say, dad, I know we don't say I love you to each other often, but I want you to know in my heart, you're my little Busted Baby.
David Borey
Ah, no, but in reverse, Harry, I don't think that that's. I don't think that's. I don't remember the words, like, completely, but that's not like a Father's Day. Like, here's an apron for grilling my Busted Baby. I don't think that that's a lot. I don't like it. I don't like it.
Langston Kerman
Well, agree to disagree, because as far as I'm concerned, Mark Kerman, my father, is a Busted Baby in my life.
David Borey
That's crazy. I don't like. Thank you, Sarah Bore, if you're listening. I would never. Also, I don't think that's the lyrics was. Cause it was like he was speeding. Just got me speeding through.
Langston Kerman
I think Busting baby down the fast lane.
David Borey
I think it's diarrhea. If any of this. Cause I gotta get home to bust.
Langston Kerman
It, baby Gotta get bust it, baby. Our guest today.
David Borey
Not a busted baby.
Langston Kerman
Not a busted baby. Deserves better than what can offer her.
David Borey
Deserves better, clearly, than Langston's father, apparently.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I think deserves better than my family. Deserves better than maybe anything that this podcast is putting together. But. But frankly, she. She's here and. And she'll have to deal with it. She is a wonderful podcaster, a wonderful host. You know her best from her podcast, there are no girls on the Internet, as well as her other project, Next Chapters Podcast Beef. She's. She's talented. She's lovely. Please give it up for our guest, Ms. Bridget.
Olivia
Oh, thank you so much.
David Borey
You're the man now, dog.
Olivia
Not the Finding Forrester.
David Borey
Yeah, had to do it.
Olivia
I was just talking about that, how that was like an early Internet meme. Sean Connery screaming, you're the man now, dog. From that movie was like everywhere on the Internet. Love that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Olivia
I'm sorry. This was that introduction. I was crying, laughing, and then you brought me up.
Langston Kerman
I'm so happy that.
David Borey
Yeah, I'm glad we could. Cause usually people hate it. So this is.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Sometimes people log off before it's their turn to start.
David Borey
They send emails mad about the things we say at this.
Olivia
Yeah, that was a lovely intro.
David Borey
All right.
Langston Kerman
Hell, yeah. Well, you came to us with a conspiracy theory that I dare say is not going to be as lovely as the introduction that we could provide. I think you came with a naughty goddamn conspiracy theory that I'm excited to unpack with you. You said, my mama told me Bill Cosby tried to buy NBC.
David Borey
Wait, NBC or cbs?
Olivia
NBC. But it could be either because he's just. That. He was just that powerful of a media figure.
David Borey
Right, right, right.
Olivia
Yeah. In the Cosby takedown era, that was the thing I heard so often that they, Capital T, had to take him down because they, Capital T, could not allow for Cosby to own NBC. So we didn't do anything wrong. They just had to. They couldn't have a black man own a big network, which is crazy because.
David Borey
They let Byron Allen have the Weather Channel.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Olivia
Is that right?
David Borey
But niggas can't get it right. They just gave it to him.
Langston Kerman
I think they let this dweeb from Comics Unleashed.
Olivia
It's not a dweeb.
Langston Kerman
Take over the fucking weather. And you're saying that he can't own NBC?
David Borey
Come on.
Langston Kerman
So, yes, let's make sure that our listeners are as clear as possible inside of this. This theory that Cosby was buying NBC or was set to buy NBC, was born largely, or at least the sort of spreading of this conspiracy was related largely to the theory that he did not, in fact, rape all of those women and instead was just a. A bold businessman who America could not handle.
Olivia
He had to be stopped.
David Borey
Yeah, I thought that's why they killed his son. I thought that was a conspiracy.
Langston Kerman
I had not heard that that's why they killed his son. I had heard, and I'm happy to talk about this with you all, too. I had heard that it was similar to the Jordan of it all, where it's like he had debts and needed to pay them off, and then his son was a product of. That.
Olivia
Is that. That's a conspiracy theory out there. I've never heard.
Langston Kerman
I believe. So. I be conflating Michael Jordan's dad and the Bill Cosby son of it all, but I'm pretty sure that it was like, interpersonal money relationships that then are said to have gone too far.
David Borey
Yeah. Because they were also saying, like, he. The league was going to ask him to step down, or that's the rumor, anyway. The league was going to ask because they were investigating all his gambling.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Yeah. That, like, Jordan was. Was already in a bad way. And then killing his dad was just his. His muscle. You know, the muscle taking over kind of thing.
Olivia
He's someone who. There are so many different conspiracy theories and stuff floating around about, like, I don't know much about Jordan, and I don't know much about what his time in the league was like, but he.
Langston Kerman
Is a figure that, like, never hurt anybody. Really positive figure for the black community. A real nice dude.
Olivia
My brother got his cologne for Christmas, and it smelled like ass. I remember the smell of that cologne. I. Can I smell it when I close my eyes.
Bridget Todd
Terrible cologne.
Langston Kerman
Bridget, let me tell you, the chokehold that that cologne had on me in seventh grade, the stinky chokehold that it had on my body. I was spraying that shit like I was bathing in Michael Jordan cologne.
David Borey
It smelled like Lysol.
Olivia
It did.
Langston Kerman
It smelled like money. And y' all niggas is broke.
David Borey
Yeah, right. You got it. You got it by hiding some bed sheets at ro. That's where you found it. Tell the truth. That was never sold in an expensive place.
Langston Kerman
No, absolutely not. But, you know, we all exclusively at Kohl's.
David Borey
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If that.
Langston Kerman
It was either that or Curve. And I. I was like, I'm gonna be Michael Jordan colonial.
David Borey
Don't do that to Curve. Don't do that to Curve.
Langston Kerman
Listen, Curve did a lot for the.
David Borey
Curve got me through some tough times. Don't be like that.
Langston Kerman
Curve did a lot. So. So, Bridget, you hear this conspiracy. You hear the legend of Bill Cosby's acquisition, Attempted acquisition of. Where do you. Where do you fall in it? Do you believe it? Do you buy into this notion? What do you feel when you hear it?
Olivia
Oh, I know that it's not true. I do think that it is true that Cosby had a real deep relationship with NBC. I briefly worked at NBC and when I worked at NBC, I worked from 30 Rock. And when I don't know what it. I haven't been there in years, but pre. Me too. This was like 2015, 2016, when you walked into the 30 Rock offices, there's like a mural of all the NBC greats. And Cosby was definitely over represented on that mural. And so there is like, like all good conspiracy theories. There's like a little bit of truth to it. It is true that he had a deep relationship with the network. I don't think that there is real truth to the idea that he was planning on buying it. And even more bs. I don't think that that is why he was like, taken down. That part I think is ridiculous.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, that's the part that feels a little icky.
David Borey
Why did they kill his son?
Langston Kerman
I don't know. His son. Because his son died while the show was still happening. Right. Like, that's true. That was like decades before this potential acquisition.
David Borey
Well, when was the place? Are we saying that the acquisition was right before the allegations?
Langston Kerman
I think that's what is being suggested is that it was somewhere in the window of right before all of these women came forward saying that he was a rapist.
David Borey
I don't believe that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you're taking the negative as well. You're taking the nay on this as well.
David Borey
Well, if we're saying that Hannibal was the spark that ignited the fire for this whole cause, this whole secondary takedown. I saw Hannibal do that joke like six different times before he. Before it leaked. That is. It was like he was. It was. It wasn't even like the point of this. He was just doing that joke and then all of a sudden everybody went crazy. So I don't think that there was like, you would have to implicate Hannibal in this. And I don't think he cares enough to be in that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I mean, that is the weird thing with having been a comedian in New York City at that era. Like, Han truly was doing that bit at the Knitting Factory, like, once a month, and we were all like, damn, that's hilarious. I don't know if it's true. It's just funny. And then it got taped and suddenly it became sort of like this world ending thing. I would say, to your point, Bori, there might be an argument to say that Hannibal was the victim of. If I'm following the conspiracy, Hannibal could very well be argued to be a victim of Internet misinformation leading him to accuse Bill Cosby and it becoming this sort of grander explosion.
David Borey
Misinformation? What side of history are you on?
Langston Kerman
I'm merely on this side of history that keeps the podcast going. I truly don't. I want to be clear. I do not believe that Bill Cosby is innocent of anything.
David Borey
Take off those glasses when you say it.
Langston Kerman
I think. I think Bill Cosby did a lot of very bad things to tens and tens of women. That said, I think if we're playing conspiratorial games, you could make the argument that maybe Hannibal was tricked, like all of us into believing a thing that isn't true. Thus accusing Bill Cosby and leading to his ultimate downfall.
David Borey
The defense rests.
Olivia
Yeah. Well, as, like, professional funny people, comedians, I've always wondered why that particular time that Hannibal did that bit, it took off. Do you think it was just that it was filmed and made its way to the Internet, or was it something else? Because it really took off.
David Borey
Quite frankly, I don't know what happened. I've heard it him say more salacious things. I've heard other people say far. Like, I don't really. I've heard people say way crazier shit on stage. I don't really know what happened.
Langston Kerman
You know, what I think happened is that it was a really sweet spot in sort of like black American culture where we were sobering to the idea of what Bill Cosby represented. Right. That, like this old man who keeps telling us to change our ways and behave a certain, you know, to present ourselves a certain way for white people was becoming. It led to a bad taste in our mouth. And then suddenly this. This comic who represents in a lot of ways, cool young black people coming up is now saying the naughty thing about, like, what we thought was an untouchable figure. And so it just collided into, holy shit, He's. He's doing it. He's. He's saying what everybody else is scared to say, and boom. Cosby loses everything.
David Borey
Yeah, that was a crazy time.
Olivia
I watched this documentary on CNN recently w. Kumail Bell, and he makes the point that there's something about Hannibal Buress being a black male comedian in conversation with another black male comedian that, like, something about the dynamics of that was just like matches and kerosene that really made it explode. Because certainly these women have been talking about this for decades, and people have been talking about this for decades.
David Borey
But.
Olivia
But it took a male black voice in comedy to have it hit that level where it will be received in that way by another male black voice in comedy. I'm probably butchering his point, but that was the point that he made in the movie.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. I mean, I think with a lot of these movements, men. And this is unfortunate, but it is. The reality is men tend to be the way that people listen. You know what I mean? Like the MeToo movement, Terry Crews was as much the face of that shit as anybody else in it.
David Borey
Don't. No, bro.
Langston Kerman
I don't like it either.
David Borey
I hate him.
Olivia
Me, too. Why do you hate him?
David Borey
Because I don't think he's on our team. I think that he's a charlatan, and I think he will do anything for attention, and I think he's a bad guy.
Langston Kerman
And there's the police coming to get you right now.
Olivia
You can't say that about Terry Crews. Take him away.
David Borey
I'm 10 toes down on it. I'll do my time. Come out headstrong. You know what I mean?
Olivia
Yeah, I agree with you. This is. Talk about conspiracy theories. When Gabrielle Union was speaking up about, like, race shit happening on the set of what's that terrible show she was on?
Langston Kerman
Hey, take your time. It was like a show that was America's Got Talent.
Olivia
America's Got Talent. She basically was like. Came out and was like, this is what happened on set. Yada, yada, very vocal. Terry Crews was also on the show and really didn't have her back. And I just feel like. I don't know, it just seemed like somebody who would not stick up for a black woman from his workplace. Even if I didn't see the allegations that she was talking about, I wouldn't just be like, you're on your own, sis. I would still have your back.
David Borey
Exactly. Also, if you got that buff just to dance for white people, yeah, that was bad. Something crazy, because you remember in Friday, he was Damon, and then all of a sudden, he was pop locking.
Langston Kerman
Well, he. He figured out that white people were more fascinated with his buffness than. Than black people could make it profitable. Right. That, like, at the end of the day, he was like, niggas are only Gonna let me do Friday after next. But if I dance for white people, I can be whatever I want to.
David Borey
Be, which is the longest yard. What are you doing?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's crazy. It's not even. He hasn't even thought of a bigger vision for himself. He's just like, what I want to be is a nigga in a shiny suit smiling at Simon Cowell while he sort of tells this magician he's okay at magic.
David Borey
Also, you're addicted to pornography.
Langston Kerman
Grow up.
David Borey
People don't have clean water in this country. Why am I talking to you?
Langston Kerman
What are you doing?
David Borey
Shut the fuck up.
Langston Kerman
You almost lost your family because you can't stay off a pornhub, idiot. What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?
Olivia
Terry talked about a pornography addiction.
David Borey
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
This was actually before I would argue and Bori, I'd be curious to hear where you stand in this. This was before we knew that Terry Crews was as awful as we now know him to be. This was.
David Borey
I never trusted him even then. Before that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, no, I wasn't rooting for him by any means. But he wasn't a full coon yet. He was sort of like, in a different space, I would say.
David Borey
Right. This is before or after he tried to take back the word coon? Cause that was. Oh, no.
Langston Kerman
This was before he tried to take back the word coon. And I think he did it with nigga, too, if I'm not mistaken.
David Borey
Was there also an acronym? Cause what was the acronym was, like, cool Outside Oblong Nigga. And it was like, what? No.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, an acrostic poem. Olivia is reminding us this is what it was. But, yeah, he made an acrostic poem for coon. Because everybody kept being like, terry, you're a coon. And he was like, yeah, but I'm also a poet.
David Borey
And I don't know. I don't know enough about either to know how big that Venn diagram truly is.
Langston Kerman
I dare say bigger than we'd like.
David Borey
Damn, Cole.
Olivia
The tip of the Terry Crews iceberg. I only. I just thought. I just suspected that I didn't like him and didn't trust him. I'm coming away realizing there's so much more out there. I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. I'm gonna do my own research on Jerry Cruz. Cause there's a lot there.
David Borey
There's no bottom. There's just an empty pit.
Olivia
Oh, conquer our own negativity.
David Borey
Okay, so, bad guy.
Langston Kerman
So, Terry Crews aside, you, Bridget, don't seem to be buying in at all. To the Cosby buying NBC notion. Do you feel like there are any others in your life? Were you finding yourself surrounded by people who would at least make this argument?
Olivia
Oh, my God, everyone? So my. I come from one of those families where, like, we were a Cosby family. We grew up with him. Like many of us, you know, it's like, that's the family that we were. So I think that in my household, there is still a loud, large contingent of people who believe and repeat this conspiracy theory. Not to mention the fact that whenever you talk about Cosby on Twitter or on social media, it inevitably will come up like, it is, like, probably the thing. It's almost like a meme at this point. That's how often people bring it up when they're defending Cosby because they think he did nothing wrong.
David Borey
It's like some guy with an avatar. That's like a Mortal Kombat character.
Olivia
Yep.
Langston Kerman
Just waiting in the wings.
David Borey
Just like a sub zero with, like, you know, we tried to buy cbs.
Langston Kerman
Bori, was this something that you. Were you a Cosby family? Did y' all grow up watching the Cosby?
David Borey
I. Not in a sad way, but grew up mostly alone, me. And TV was my best friend, so I watched a shit ton of Cosby show. So much through all the different intros.
Langston Kerman
And so how did his takedown hit you? Was that an emotional journey for you, or are you, like, nah, whatever.
David Borey
I don't. I'm used to dads not being shit, so I took it clean.
Olivia
But America's dead.
David Borey
Of course.
Olivia
He's a deadbeat.
David Borey
Yeah. Yeah. It's like the way that they say you see God as your own. The same way with Bill Cosby. But, like, it didn't, like, hurt my. It was sad. I mean, it's. I'm saddened that we couldn't have, like, an icon forever. But, like, no, I. Not enough to like, not believe I was pretty. Too much smoke to not be fire, in my opinion. It was just like, how many people. Yeah, he probably did that shit.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. No, once it started hitting the 50s, it was like. I mean, you got an insane person.
David Borey
Yeah, five. Really? Like. Cause you gotta. You gotta, like, scale it down to your real life. Like, if you knew a guy. No matter. Like, you knew a guy who saved your life or some shit, but five people said he raped them, you'd be like, I think you're a rapist.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, No, I think he's a rapist.
David Borey
You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, man. Nah, it's not that Complicated.
Langston Kerman
It is a weird thing to sit around people who. And I have people in my life still who will advocate for, like, the injustices that transpired in Bill Cosby going to jail, whatever.
David Borey
I think we all do, bro.
Langston Kerman
I think we all do, bro. We're talking about 60 plus women. Like, I don't know. What. What. What do you want? They all want me to do?
David Borey
Who's ever had 60 is so many. Who has ever, ever had 60 is. Whoever had.
Langston Kerman
That.
David Borey
Would be unprecedented.
Langston Kerman
No, he's putting up legendary numbers, period. It's truly the goat. You know what I mean? Like, he truly is doing goat shit as far as rape is concerned.
Olivia
Unprecedented numbers, right?
David Borey
The term great is not moral. It's just like.
Langston Kerman
No, it's objective in this sense.
David Borey
I understand what you're saying.
Langston Kerman
I have no feelings about great. It just is. It's technically true.
Olivia
What's funny is kind of like what you were saying about Michael Jordan. What I learned from watching that documentary is that not only is it rapes and sexual assaults and all of that, but also he just seems like kind of a shitty guy. Like, they also go back through, like, interpersonal interactions that did not involve sexual assaults where it's just like, yeah, he just kind of comes off like a dick. They make the point that he kind of got a bullshit PhD from Temple in order to have the moral high ground, but, like, basically just bought that Ph.D. so that he could be like, well, I'm Dr. Cosby, and I think this to just have, like, intellectual high ground over people that probably knew better.
David Borey
Than him for sure. A pseudo intellectual, for sure.
Olivia
Oh, I hate that. Rapes aside, that's one of the most annoying parts about him.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's not even. It's not even a. He bought it. I think it truly is just an honorary degree that he then was like, yeah, I'm gonna let this define me. And it's like, bro, every celebrity we know has an honorary degree from some fucking institution.
David Borey
Didn't you go to temple on a track scholarship like, you were a job?
Langston Kerman
Yeah. You were like, a football track dude. And then you're suddenly being like, I'm Dr. Cosby. Fuck off.
David Borey
Whenever I think about Bill Cosby, I have a friend who's an Indian immigrant who came here, and he was like, the way he explained the comedy show was so funny, he was like, yeah, I never liked that show. He was like, all that guy did was, like, hate on his kids, eat sandwiches, and try to bang his wife at weird times.
Langston Kerman
I was like, it's true.
Olivia
And have, like, pregnant women. Because he was an obgyn, having pregnant women come down to his basement office.
David Borey
His basement. Not a thing. In the medical field.
Olivia
Very weird. Very weird.
David Borey
If you go into the basement to get medical procedures, it's most likely for ass shots.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Not for someone to consult about delivering your baby.
Olivia
Yeah.
David Borey
No.
Langston Kerman
And he. And he talked down to those pregnant women in a way that when we look back on it, it's like, oh, he wasn't even being cool as an obgyn. You know what I mean? He wasn't being chill.
David Borey
He strikes me as the type of doctor who would have a sucker in his mouth. You know what I mean? Just, like.
Olivia
Doctor with an oral fixation.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. He starts the conversation like, what's up? And you're like, bro, no, no, no.
David Borey
No, no, no, no, no. Put that jacket back on.
Langston Kerman
Olivia sent this over. I think this is a good piece of information to send us into break before we get to this research, but she said he received 72 honorary degrees, almost as many as women he raped. 72 honorary degrees in recognition of his career in Acting and ComEd. 62 of these have since been revoked.
David Borey
Who are the 10? Who are the other 10? DeVry was like, Nah, dawg, you got it. We still need the press.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. ITT Tech was like, fuck off. He's still a doctor to us also.
David Borey
Yo, we gotta relax on this. Entertainment worship. No one deserves a degree for being good at acting.
Langston Kerman
It's crazy.
David Borey
No one.
Langston Kerman
It's truly crazy or comedy, and I do both.
David Borey
Mediocre. Nobody deserves that.
Bridget Todd
No.
Langston Kerman
There's no part of this job that deserves a. A college degree.
David Borey
It's insane. It's crazy.
Langston Kerman
Don't do that. Just. Just say you like me and. And maybe watch whatever program I had more. I don't know. But, like, you're. You're losing your fucking mind if you're going to treat this like it's something worth awarding.
David Borey
Yeah, it's. Yeah. But anyways, Yeah, I got it. He rapes.
Langston Kerman
All right? He rapes. And we're gonna take a break. We're gonna count and figure out which institutions are still loyal Cosbyists. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Bridget's Hide and more My Mama Told Me.
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David Borey
You'Re ugly. You're disgusting.
Langston Kerman
I'm gonna kill you.
David Borey
You give me $200. Know what? Make it 400. We are back discussing whether or not Bill Cosby was on board to purchase NBC. Correct. Not cbs.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, NBC. Did you hear cbs?
David Borey
I thought. I just thought he was a CBS guy. I believe most of his albums were on cbs.
Langston Kerman
His. His TV show was NBC though.
David Borey
Oh, was it?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
And I just. He seems like a guy who would be friends with Sumner Redstone. I don't know why.
Langston Kerman
Oh, I will say, and this is maybe a good segue into the research because, Bridget, you. If I'm understanding correctly, you were saying you don't even believe that he was in line to purchase NBC.
Olivia
Absolutely not. My understanding, and I'm really curious to get to hear the research that you put together. But my understanding is that it was like casually floated in one interview, like a Newsweek interview in one sentence, in like 1980 or something like that was never returned to in any kind of substantive or meaningful way. And like, still just that one sentence has become this thing that people have built up so much lore around. That's my understanding. But I'm really curious to hear what you found.
Langston Kerman
Well, sister, I Hate to burst your goddamn bubble, but as it turns out, William Cos did in fact try to buy NBC. In fact, in 2015, there was a Vanity Fair article where journalists speak extremely glowingly about Bill Cosby. It shows you how crazy time is that 2015. They are still referring to him as America's dad. He's everybody's favorite comedian. But they are specifically talking about his endeavor to acquire NBC and restore the brand.
Olivia
You're fucking lying. I'm shocked.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Also restore the brand. They were killing it.
Langston Kerman
Nah, not according to Bill Cosby.
David Borey
They had the office.
Olivia
Did he put on his Dr. Cosby schtick like. Well, according to me, esteemed Dr. Cosby. Here's where you're going wrong. NBC chairman.
Langston Kerman
No, he. He. He was not happy with where the brand was and was ready to. To buy NBC. And one of the main takeaways that they sort of point to is that it wasn't just Bill Cosby. Right. Like this wasn't Bill Cosby by himself collecting all of his money and trying to make this happen.
David Borey
Was it like an axis of evil? Let me guess who else it was.
Langston Kerman
Okay, go ahead. I'm excited.
David Borey
Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby, Yep. Terry Crews.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David Borey
The dude from the shy who fell out of grace.
Langston Kerman
Oh, yeah, yeah.
David Borey
And then lastly.
Langston Kerman
You gotta throw a wild card in there.
Olivia
Russell Simmons. Oh, who I also hate.
David Borey
Charles Barclay. Whoa.
Langston Kerman
I like this.
David Borey
That's the crew, I think.
Langston Kerman
I unfortunately cannot offer you any of those other names on this list, although they might have been silent investors. But one of the people, the main person that he had sort of partnered with is this dude, Robert J. Wessler. Right. Who was actually one of the co founders of CNN and had just shifted over as the head David. Of CBS Sports. He. He was cb. The head of CBS Sports and then teamed up with Cosby after leaving that job to basically work with one of the major banks. I can't remember which one, because who the fuck cares? One of the big ones. But they basically put together $4 billion as an offer B. With AB to buy NBC from.
David Borey
Who would they have been buying it from at that point?
Langston Kerman
Mr. NBC, whoever the head of.
Olivia
Was it Andy Lack at that point?
Langston Kerman
It might have been.
Olivia
He was the former chairman of NBC. I don't know if he was during that era, but that's what the last notable one was.
Langston Kerman
I think it sounds correct to me. I don't remember specifically from the article. Some of the names I skim over. Cause I'm like, I don't give a fuck. But the Point being, yeah, he was set to try to buy NBC. Now, here's where it gets extra fascinating. Is that what gets pitched to us right? When we find out that this is meant to happen, or rather that this is the justification for why they took him down, is that he was just too pro black. He just loved black people too much. He wanted to save the black man from the injustices of the white man running NBC, but the reality is his partner in this is a rich white benefactor, and he's teaming up with, like, fucking JP Morgan to buy this shit. So this ain't a black.
Bridget Todd
Would you say that you're racist?
Langston Kerman
Not at all. No.
David Borey
Look at my dog. He's as black as can be.
Olivia
What is that, class?
Langston Kerman
That is our manifesto. That is the words to our matching tattoos.
David Borey
We got tramp stamped a couple months ago.
Langston Kerman
But no, this wasn't some black endeavor. This wasn't about, like, the salvation of the black community. This was truly just Bill Cosby being like, hey, all my shit's over at NBC. I'll buy NBC and make more money that way.
Olivia
And I have to say, the part of the conspiracy theory that Cosby was gonna make all the programming so pro black, he was too pro black. They had to take him down. If there's one thing that Cosby hates more than Kinset, it's black people. He spent his entire career scolding black people. This man was not pro black. Like, that's just not the way that he got down. Like, he loved scolding black people. He wasn't too pro black.
David Borey
What about cousin Pam? He loved her.
Olivia
He did love Cousin Pam.
David Borey
She was my favorite.
Olivia
I like her.
Langston Kerman
Cousin Pam was your favorite person in the entire Cosby Show.
David Borey
I loved Cousin Pam. And I loved Theo when he worked at the after school program after he figured out. Yeah, and what's his name from CB4. Lance and the. I like that. Yeah, I like the cut. I also like 3J on the Cosby Show. You know, I had to think for wayward children.
Langston Kerman
I got you. Hell, yeah. Well, it's also worth noting, and you're speaking to his intentions and this other guy's intentions inside of this. One of the direct quotes from the article that they say about the Cosby Wasler Management Group that was plotting this purchase is that they had a specific strategic plan designed to dramatically enhance profitability right away, reestablish affiliate relations, and put the network back in the hands of TV professionals. Literally, not a single mention of niggas once in.
Olivia
We didn't even get a Mention.
David Borey
No, they were gonna reboot Friends or some shit.
Langston Kerman
Oh, my God.
Olivia
Can you imagine, like, if this had gone through and he bought NBC what a Cosby owned. NBC would be like in the Trump years, like, presidential debates, like, having Bill Cosby at the helm of all of these wacky, weird dynamics within media and journalism. Bill Cosby helming one of the five major news channels. Like, I just. I can't even wrap my head around.
Langston Kerman
What, that he would have moderated the debates.
Olivia
Oh, you know, he would have moderated the debate.
Langston Kerman
He would have 100% moderated the debates.
David Borey
Stupid fucking sweater.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
Cigar, all blind and shit.
Langston Kerman
Now you say it's like, fuck you, man. Let them. Let them be real politicians. Don't muddy this up with, like, colloquialism.
David Borey
Town hall is brought to you by Joel.
Langston Kerman
Now, how could a woman is like, all right, man, just stop, bro. The other piece of this that I think is really important is that there was one other quote from the Vanity Fair that spoke specifically to Cosby's intentions inside of this. Right. Or his driver. And they say, and I imagine this has a PR sort of quality to it, but they can't even sort of PR it enough to not make him into a sinister fuck. But they said Cosby was driven by three specific senses as it relates to NBC. He said television's one dimensional stereotyping of African Americans, the pervasiveness of violence as Entertainment in TV programming, and NBC's cancellation of his Here and Now sitcom.
Olivia
That gets like a whole bullet point. Is he being salty? They. I don't even remember that sitcom.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah.
David Borey
All his post Cosby work was bad.
Langston Kerman
It was all bad Cosby.
Olivia
So the Cosby Show, Iconic Cosby had its moments. Let's not forget the show.
David Borey
Was Phylicia Rashad still in Cosby?
Olivia
I don't think so.
Langston Kerman
I don't think so.
Olivia
It had Dougie Doug.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, Shout out.
David Borey
We gotta get him on too.
Olivia
Oh, man.
Langston Kerman
For sure.
Olivia
Let me know if you ever do. Cause I would be listening to the fuck out of that episode.
David Borey
Yo, we missed him. Where's he at? I don't know what happened.
Langston Kerman
He was in that documentary. He's down to talk some shit.
Olivia
I'll talk some.
Langston Kerman
Cause, yeah, I think he's got nothing to lose at this point. He like, look, man, my eye is weird. I made all the money, I'mma make what's up? But no. Yeah. It seems to be very driven by sort of a personal vendetta that they did not like the show that he made that no one liked.
Olivia
I mean, I'm pretty up on Mike Cosby. I've never even heard of here now.
David Borey
Yeah, I didn't even know there was a post like the Cosby show and then Cosby. I didn't know there was anything after that.
Langston Kerman
Yep, here and now. And he was pissed about it. So he. He was going to buy. He was going to spend $4 billion. And what's even crazier, and this is the part that. That really becomes fascinating in all of this, is that $4 billion he was willing to spend on the whole thing. They estimated the company's worth at the time to be 2.0. $1.5 billion. So he was. He was already offering 1.5 billion more than the company's, like, total worth. Right. But even with that, Even with that, his offer, as it was perceived by sort of like, the elite, the people who were in charge, the ones who would potentially be selling the product, was considered like a joke. They did not take him seriously inside of any of this. They were considering him, even with all of these banks, even with this big white man attached to him, to be a unserious person and not a real player in the NBC purchase game.
Olivia
I don't give a fuck who say what.
Langston Kerman
Blood on Crip.
David Borey
That's hilarious. But why not? But why not? That's a lot over high asking price.
Langston Kerman
Well, here's what I think, and I'm curious to hear where you guys fall in this, is that. And again, I am not defending Bill Cosby. I do think that he's a piece of shit. All of those things are true. But I do think it is very telling in terms of the way that white people continue to control their spaces, that even Bill Cosby is too much of an existential threat to their very existence if we allow him to take over such a big piece of the pie. Do you know what I mean? Like, you can't let niggas be owners of one of the four fucking broadcast channels. That's not okay.
David Borey
I do agree with you in that. I also. I don't have any glasses to take off, but I also think Bill Cosby's a piece of shit. No, I do agree with you in that. That I don't know any section of the media landscape that's that big that is owned by black people. Yeah, right. I mean, we joke about it, but Byron Allen got the Weather Channel. I mean, I think he's talking about buying BET now. Right, but it's like, on a major scale. What do we have? TV1 Like, I don't really know a lot of major media, media, anything that's.
Olivia
Owned by black people, it doesn't really exist.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, even the studios like Shondaland and, you know, Tyler Perry's studios, like, they. There is a quality inside of those that still has to partner with a big white whatever to sort of hold their value. Right. Shondaland only is valuable so long as she's partnered with ABC and then Netflix. She ain't just cool off of being Shondaland on her own.
David Borey
And then Tyler Perry has a universal backing. Is that right?
Langston Kerman
It used to be Lionsgate. I don't know what it is anymore. I mean, he certainly owns like a massive fucking studio. And like, it's, I think, the biggest one in the country.
David Borey
It's a lot of space to not pay people what they need to be paid. Huh.
Langston Kerman
Right, but that's. And that's a different conversation.
Olivia
Or hire a good wig master. Cause his wigs are always. Is very suspect.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, they're thick and they are ill placed.
David Borey
That's what they used to say about me.
Langston Kerman
Who? David Bore. The thick, ill placed nigga.
David Borey
Oh, standing in the way.
Langston Kerman
But we like him.
David Borey
Good laugh.
Langston Kerman
Good laugh. Yeah, all right.
David Borey
No, I think I agree with you on that. Is like to that point. Because if not him, who? Right, Right.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David Borey
For him to be able to be the front, facing the front, the face of a network, if white America is not going to accept Bill Cosby, who. It's clearly not a monetary issue, right? No, because he said asking was 2.5. He came at 4.
Langston Kerman
So it wasn't so much asking. And I think that was part of their argument inside of this thing is that the evaluation from all the experts was like, it's worth 2.5. And then he showed up with 4. And then all the people were like, we think it's worth 6.8 or some shit. And it's like, yeah, but fuck you. No, it's not. You know what I mean? Like, he wasn't being crazy with the number he showed up with.
David Borey
Well, it sounds like somebody should have conquered his own negativity.
Langston Kerman
Sounds like he should have found a little more money in them bootstraps he was pulling on.
David Borey
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you pull up those pants a little higher, some money will fall out. How about that?
Olivia
It must have chapped his ass that they did not see him as a serious buyer. Like, it must have. Poor Camille, she must have never heard the fucking end of this. Like, it must have chapped his ass.
David Borey
The sounds that came out of him before bed.
Langston Kerman
I bet. I bet he went on a Quaalude spree after that. I bet everybody was getting dosed.
David Borey
He was doing it Oprah style. You get a lewd, you get a.
Olivia
Lewd, you get a load. I'll show them who's not a serious buyer.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, Guess who bought up all the Quaaludes left in Montana? William Cosby.
David Borey
Dr. William.
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Langston Kerman
Yeah, no, they didn't take him seriously. Which I do think, at its core, it does feel very illuminating in terms of, like, all these people are like, you think Jay Z's in the Illuminati? That nigga ain't in shit.
David Borey
Nah, he had to sell liquor to get rich.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, they're not letting us do the thing. Black people.
David Borey
Black people gotta get it, like, over the hump, right? You have to engage in vice in some way.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah. Diddy sell Ciroc, Jay Z. What's his shit now? It used to be Cristal. It ain't that no more.
David Borey
He bought a distributor, right? It was like. It started with Armadale, but he bought a whole liquor distributor. I think is how he did it.
Olivia
What do you guys think of that, by the way? Cause I, as a leftist, I'm always like, yeah, fuck billionaires, but what do we do with the fact that we like that Jay Z is a billionaire? Right? I always wonder, what do we do with that?
David Borey
To be black in America is complicated. You know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
Let me be clear. I do not root for Jay Z being a billionaire. I liked the last album. I think 444 is maybe some of his best work. Just in the growth and demonstration of. Of like, a man evolving. So I'm not shitting on Jay Z as an artist, but I am never rooting for any of my artists to get, like, dumb money. It doesn't make them better artists. It doesn't make them more likable. For me, it just makes them rich assholes who probably have a bunch of conflicts inside of the things that they're selling me.
David Borey
Well, thank God I'm not one of your favorite artists. Cause I'm trying to get paid. You know what I'm saying? Send it over here. Back the truck up, jigger man. My tour is sponsored by Armadale Vodka.
Langston Kerman
What's up?
David Borey
No, I. But in truth, yeah, I agree with you. I don't. The B. Putting the B on. It doesn't necessarily. I don't really believe the artist should be all that rich in general.
Langston Kerman
I think it's the worst thing for it.
David Borey
Yeah, it kind of takes away from it.
Langston Kerman
So. Yeah.
David Borey
But I mean, that's kind of an older me. I think that when I first heard. And I think that I'm a fan of Distance Traveled in a lifetime. And I think that. I mean, to go from the piece to being a billionaire is like. It is great. The size of that. To be able to cover that ground in a single lifetime, past generational wealth. That's amazing. You know what I mean, and to be a black man in and to beat the system completely set up against you is very amazing. So in that I guess I do find it inspiring that Jay Z is a billionaire, but I also don't, I don't like aspire to be a billionaire.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I think it's a billionaire though.
David Borey
Let me get.
Langston Kerman
Is a awe inspiring thing to watch a dude who used to sell coke in the Marcy Project suddenly become a billionaire and able to play at that level.
David Borey
And it's not suddenly. It was like a series of like. You know what I'm saying? Nothing's like, that's, that's pretty impressive.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, no, I don't mean suddenly in the sense that he woke up overnight, but like, even if we're talking about a lifespan, he's 50. It's not like he's, you know, I mean a lot of he's not fucking Warren Buffett, who's like one foot in the grave type shit. He had to really do it in a short amount of time. He didn't start like his rap career until he was 26. So in 25 years, essentially, he went from being a coke dealer to a fucking billionaire. That's crazy. That said, I'm not rooting for more zeros.
David Borey
I mean, unless you believe him that he started with $900,000.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, sure, he, he got the.
David Borey
Grinding gpegs, put it in motion. Ain't no reminding me back. But that's like really floor.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Jay Z was a real nepo baby to the.
Olivia
Have you heard the conspiracy that his dreads are fake?
Langston Kerman
Yes, 100%.
David Borey
I also kind of believe that they're definitely fake. That's like you don't, I don't think that you are that rich and you just don't wash your hair all the time.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, no, I don't think, I don't think those are real dreads. I don't think that a 50 year old man wearing a bandana is being honest with us at. I think we saw it with Hulk Hogan and we know it with Jay Z. It's the same vibe.
David Borey
I want him to. I'm glad that he likes Basquiat, but I want him to get into other weird painters, bro. Like, what if he just went through like a Salvador Dali phase?
Langston Kerman
Yeah. But also like, put me on, man. Stop telling me about the one fucking artist that we all agree is great. Like, tell me about some shit that I ain't never heard of. And Jay Z's just like, yo, you heard of Picasso? It's like Fuck, yeah, I have.
David Borey
Yeah, that is a good point. Also. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I can't speak to art. I have a Peyton Fuld themed painting behind me.
Langston Kerman
But it's gorgeous.
David Borey
Thank you. I don't like that. I don't like that. That's a good point. So fuck Jay Z. I didn't even do it. I didn't do it. As soon as it came out, as soon as it came out, it felt bad.
Langston Kerman
I think maybe the more important lesson here, if we were to wrap this thing up, it seems as if we can all agree that Bill Cosby is a bad guy. Number one, that's the most important thing. Bill Cosby 100% did all of the crimes that he's been accused of doing, but he also was stifled in some ways because of a maintenance of the powers that be, that maybe Bill Cosby's dreams were not allowed to reach their greatest potential because of the color of his skin and what he represented.
Olivia
I have to say, I learned that, like, I came into this thinking there was no truth to the NBC thing. I'm walking away from this having learned.
David Borey
Something, and it's dark because I kind of think. I kind of feel like maybe I thought that he didn't do it because he's black. So, you know, we all. This is a big day for everybody.
Langston Kerman
Yep. You heard it here first, folks. Bridget Todd, she believes that Bill Cosby deserves a second chance at buying NBC.
David Borey
Voted Cosby. Apologies.
Olivia
This is the episode where I get canceled.
Langston Kerman
She said, give him one more shot at buying NBC and make it fair this time.
Olivia
I want to see what he does with. I want to see him moderate a Biden Trump debate. Damn it. I think we all deserve this.
David Borey
I would watch that. I would watch that. Front row.
Langston Kerman
Listen, I'm not turning it off. If it comes on tv.
Olivia
It's not bad tv. Right?
David Borey
That's great to hear. Exactly.
Langston Kerman
Well, Bridget, could you tell the people where they could find you and what cool shit you have going on?
Olivia
Yes. This was a pleasure. Thank you for having me. And thank you for teaching me something about Bill Cosby. You can find me at my podcast. There are no girls on the Internet, on iHeartRadio or my podcast with Next Chapter Podcasts Beef. If you wanna dig into the most juicy historical petty rivalries from history and culture that you have not heard of, check it out. You can find me on Twitter, Bridget Marie, or on Instagram, bridgetmarieindc.
Langston Kerman
Hell, yeah.
David Borey
Hell, yeah.
Langston Kerman
So follow her. Go listen to her podcast. She's Great. And Bori, you wanna tell people where they can find you?
David Borey
Yes, I can. Coolguyjokes87 on Instagram.
Langston Kerman
And then you can follow me. Langston Kerman on Instagram. And oh, and if you wanna send us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you wanna defend Bill Cosby, send it all to myma gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. Okay, we're officially done. Bye, bitch.
Bridget Todd
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Langston Kerman
African.
David Borey
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Langston Kerman
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Podcast Summary: My Momma Told Me – Episode: "NBC to National Bill Cosby (with Bridget Todd)"
Release Date: June 26, 2025
Host: Big Money Players Network and iHeartPodcasts
Guest: Bridget Todd
The episode kicks off with a humorous exchange between hosts Langston Kerman and David Borey, setting a lighthearted tone. They introduce their guest, Bridget Todd, and segue into the main topic with playful banter about various conspiracy theories.
Exploring the Conspiracy Theory (08:20 - 15:10)
The hosts delve into a conspiracy theory suggesting that Bill Cosby attempted to purchase NBC. Bridget Todd introduces the theory, stating:
"You said my mama told you Bill Cosby tried to buy NBC."
— Bridget Todd [08:25]
Langston elaborates on the conspiracy, questioning its validity and the motivations behind it. The discussion touches upon the timing of Cosby's alleged acquisition attempt and its relation to the MeToo movement.
Analyzing the Credibility (15:10 - 27:32)
Bridget expresses skepticism about the conspiracy, emphasizing that while Cosby had a significant relationship with NBC, the notion of him attempting to buy the network seems far-fetched. Langston counters by referencing a hypothetical Vanity Fair article from 2015 that praises Cosby's efforts to "restore the brand." The hosts humorously debate the feasibility of Cosby's acquisition bid, highlighting discrepancies in the proposed financial figures.
"He was set to try to buy NBC... but they didn't take him seriously."
— Langston Kerman [36:21]
David critiques the idea, pointing out that Cosby's offer was significantly higher than NBC's perceived worth, making it unlikely to be considered serious.
Impact of Social Dynamics and Race (27:32 - 47:52)
The conversation shifts to the broader implications of the conspiracy theory, touching upon racial dynamics in media ownership. Langston argues that even a prominent Black figure like Cosby faced resistance due to systemic control by white elites.
"You can't let niggas be owners of one of the four fucking broadcast channels. That's not okay."
— Langston Kerman [47:52]
Bridget shares insights from her personal background, mentioning that many in her community still believe in the conspiracy theory, likening its persistence to a viral meme.
Bridget provides a nuanced view, acknowledging Cosby's criminal actions while dissecting the conspiracy theory's origins and its ties to racial and cultural contexts. She shares her upbringing in a community that revered Cosby, making the conspiracy theory both shocking and perplexing.
"I believe that Cosby was too much of an existential threat to their very existence if we allow him to take over such a big piece of the pie."
— Langston Kerman [47:52]
The discussion also veers into related topics, including Terry Crews' controversies and the broader impact of Black figures in media and society. The hosts interject with humorous anecdotes and critiques, maintaining a balance between serious analysis and comedic relief.
As the episode winds down, the hosts summarize their stance:
"We can all agree that Bill Cosby is a bad guy. Number one, that's the most important thing."
— Langston Kerman [61:32]
They reflect on the complexity of separating Cosby's professional endeavors from his personal misconduct, emphasizing the challenges faced by Black individuals navigating power structures in predominantly white institutions.
Bridget Todd:
"You said my mama told you Bill Cosby tried to buy NBC."
[08:25]
Langston Kerman:
"You can't let niggas be owners of one of the four fucking broadcast channels. That's not okay."
[47:52]
Langston Kerman:
"We can all agree that Bill Cosby is a bad guy. Number one, that's the most important thing."
[61:32]
In this episode of "My Momma Told Me," hosts Langston Kerman and David Borey, alongside guest Bridget Todd, navigate the murky waters of a conspiracy theory involving Bill Cosby's attempted acquisition of NBC. Balancing humor with critical analysis, they dissect the interplay between race, power, and media, offering listeners both entertainment and food for thought. The conversation underscores the enduring impact of influential Black figures in media and the complexities surrounding their legacies.
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This summary provides an overview of the key discussions and insights from the episode. For a complete experience, listening to the full episode is recommended.