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Langston Kerman
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Langston Kerman
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David
Stop everything.
Langston Kerman
Put that shit down.
David
Stop making love to your significant others. We're talking.
Langston Kerman
Get your penis out of your wife.
David
And get that pussy out of your side piece.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, out of it.
David
Into your. I've never had sex before.
Langston Kerman
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David
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Langston Kerman
Unbelievable news.
David
For all of you who want to see us get filthy rich.
Langston Kerman
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Clark Jones
Okay.
Langston Kerman
Why is that the button you pressed?
David
I shouldn't have smoked.
Langston Kerman
We're starting a Patreon.
David
We're starting a Patreon. It's gonna be so much fun. We're gonna have, what, four. Four extra episodes a month?
Langston Kerman
It's four extra episodes. It's all kinds of games. It's watch alongs, it's grab bags.
David
It's gonna be all mailbags, livestreams, all this stuff. Langston's nudes.
Langston Kerman
This is the first I'm hearing of it. But I'm not in a space to contradict. I'm desperate for you to join, so if that is what will entice you to come see us over at Patreon, please do that.
David
Yeah. So you can go ahead and go online to www.patreon. backslash. It's on the bottom.
Langston Kerman
Yep.
David
We'll have it flashing on the screen.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, we don't tell me likely, but yeah. But we'll figure it out. It's coming. Bye, bitch.
David
I seen Cornel west the other day, too.
Langston Kerman
You keep saying that. I don't think it was.
Clark Jones
It was. T looks worse. He looks worse off camera.
David
Felt like it, but it was. I. It was crazy circumstances for it to have been him.
Langston Kerman
Tell the circumstances.
David
Me and the lady were at Costco already.
Clark Jones
Sure it was him.
Langston Kerman
Here's what I'll also tell you about this. Supposedly Cornel west is that David sent me a picture of Cornel west in Costco in this Yale hoodie. And first of all, I know that first of all, the picture looked like fucking Bigfoot footage, yo.
David
Cause we were far away.
Langston Kerman
It's one of the worst photos I've ever seen a human being send to another human being in this.
Clark Jones
Like, what. What Apple, iPhone do you have?
David
I got the newest one.
Langston Kerman
He's got the newest one. He has the technology to have taken a better picture of Cornell West.
Clark Jones
Grainy.
Langston Kerman
He knows this is not Cornell West.
Clark Jones
He threw a grainy filter on there.
Langston Kerman
In his heart, he knew he could not show me this man and me believe that this is Cornell.
Clark Jones
I just couldn't. He thinks very little of your judgment. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
He really was like, yo, who's the stupidest friend I have?
Clark Jones
He figured you're so high off the alcohol commercial. Yeah, he's been paying attention. That is in. No way. Crunch. That's what I'm saying.
David
All right, guys.
Clark Jones
That's all I'm trying to say.
David
My mama told me.
Clark Jones
Oh, he got the Princeton. He got the Princeton joint.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
That's crazy.
Clark Jones
That's got to go on already, man. Is this Cornell West?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, that's. That's.
David
I do realize it's so far. And that's a bad angle.
Clark Jones
He was like, that is Uncle Drew.
Langston Kerman
If he would have said, yo, I saw Uncle Drew at Costco.
Clark Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
I'd be like, bro, that's crazy. That's definitely Uncle Kyrie back at it.
David
The government growing babies Microchips in your anus. All koala bears are racist. The ozone layer owes me money. Marshy to venom Turkey stuff. Y' all can't tell me nothing.
Langston Kerman
Slob on my knob like corn on the cob. Check in with me. Then you do your job.
Clark Jones
There it is.
Langston Kerman
There it is.
Clark Jones
It kind of was.
Langston Kerman
I it.
David
We can re.
Clark Jones
Record it. Oh, man.
Langston Kerman
Do your job.
Clark Jones
It's like, do your job. Yeah.
David
You had it. You had it. 98.
Langston Kerman
And I just really fumbled that then. And. And I'm not proud of that.
David
Have you. Well, let's finish this. And then I have a question to ask the podcast.
Langston Kerman
I don't know.
Clark Jones
Were you doing the odds?
Langston Kerman
Shut the up. Ladies and gentlemen, little mamas and gentiles alike, welcome to a phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast, where.
David
We dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories.
Langston Kerman
And we don't want to prove for a God damn.
David
We don't want you to learn shit.
Langston Kerman
You motherfuckers learn something. I'm going to give you a knuckle sandwich.
David
Say learn again. Say it again.
Langston Kerman
Making me mad.
David
What I wanted to ask both of you, have you found that even in singing along to music, you've gotten worse at rapping as you've gotten older?
Langston Kerman
Absolutely.
David
Isn't that embarrassing? Because I was never a rapper and I got worse at it.
Langston Kerman
Yep.
David
When I was like, 19, every word. Perfect placing timing. Like every song, I knew the words.
Langston Kerman
You know why that. That video of that white girl rapping, the Lil baby went so nuts?
David
Because she nailed it.
Clark Jones
Swim in the ocean.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Is because old niggas didn't know how to do it.
David
Yep.
Langston Kerman
So we went. We. Damn. I don't even know those words.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
That's crazy that she does the whole.
David
I got some juvenile like that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
But like. Yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
And there were white girls of our era that could just ride along to Nelly the Whole time.
Clark Jones
Do you know what I mean?
David
And they rolled blunts and it just.
Clark Jones
Yeah, I had a lot of black girls in my inbox who at the time thought I was like more famous than I was. Like I knew people.
David
Well, that sounds like a plan executed.
Clark Jones
No, no, I was very thank. They thought I knew everybody. That went viral. They were like, why did this? Like they knew. They thought I knew the. The. The shit behind every conspiracy. You know, like, you're in the industry. Why did she go? I'm like, okay, well, you wrapped the verse. And she was like, well, I can't. Well, like that's why she's famous and you're not. You can't even do famous.
David
Is.
Clark Jones
She didn't like that.
Langston Kerman
This person.
David
She did have a moment.
Clark Jones
Famous.
David
Talking about the one at the wedding, right?
Clark Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shock of the woman. You swim with the like. Yeah, I still. I spend a lot of time in the car, so I can still. I can still rap pretty good.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David
Really?
Clark Jones
You were a cunning linguist in. That's what you majored in, right?
Langston Kerman
Watch him out. What we not gonna do is speak to each other that way. You got some nerve.
Clark Jones
You told me to shut the fuck up. So now it's on site on 4 them graves. As a Chicagoan, I gotta come in and say that at least five times.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, no, it's gonna come up for sure.
Clark Jones
Yeah, man. When I'm really passionate about a point. So I'm all in.
Langston Kerman
I have something that I wanna say that I think is necessary. I say it to you. I say it to you. I say it to our audience at home. And I'm not saying it with necessarily pride, but it is true for me. I throw away plastic bags.
David
All of them.
Clark Jones
No, like how many at a time. And like, what's the cap?
Langston Kerman
Sometimes. Sometimes I'll go grocery shopping and let's say we get about seven of them things. About two or three of them. They going in the recycling.
David
I think that's so. Cause listen, man, I think you only need a plastics bag full of plastic bags.
Clark Jones
Wait, you throw S's on words. They don't need them too. It's an indigenous black person thing.
David
I wish you this. You guys are interlopers.
Clark Jones
It feels real. Cuz your button is button to the top. Anything you accuse me of, I did it.
David
This is my to.
Clark Jones
That's when the don't know what foray means. He just calls it his to.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
I enter my to into accusatory politics.
David
This is my TO into journalism.
Clark Jones
Oh my God.
David
But Truly the way I feel, you only need one plastic bag worth of plastic bags.
Langston Kerman
And I think that there has been.
David
But the outer shell bag has gotta be one of the good bags. I'm not talking grocery store. I'm talking maybe clothing store. That type of thick plastic bag. Then you fill that full of grocery store bags.
Langston Kerman
Sturdy motherfucker gets filled with a bunch of flimsy motherfuckers.
David
And that's about how many plastic bags I need in those.
Clark Jones
Ralph's thick, thick ones are very small, they are sturdy. But you're only getting like five or six bags in there.
David
Yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
It's like leather plastic.
David
Yeah, that's a little too thick. Or you know the.
Clark Jones
You know what I did say about no black Fan out.
Langston Kerman
That's too much ass.
Clark Jones
Wait, wait, wait.
David
I need that to be known right now. That's not what we're talking about. You women's in verbozzi. Allow me to have a toray into a different topic.
Clark Jones
But to your point, and this is a soft toss into the whole conspiracy theory, I think the color of the plastic bags in your neighborhood lets you know your economic standing. Oh, because black plastic bags are a little bit. That's the highest of the beauty supply in your neighborhood. Oh, like financial state. The clear is. That's the lowest. And what else you got?
David
You got brown, you got the light white too.
Clark Jones
Light white.
David
You know what I'm saying?
Clark Jones
But black is like. Oh, that's like gray.
David
Gray.
Clark Jones
Respect to it.
Langston Kerman
Now, when we're talking about this, I assume you're speaking specifically about like beauty supply.
Clark Jones
Beauty supply.
Langston Kerman
Okay. Cause grocery store, if you hand me a black bag, this is the poorest grocery store I've ever been to.
Clark Jones
Yeah, it's the highest of the poor neighborhoods, but it's the lowest of a good neighborhood. So like, you just move there, you find a spot with the black. Oh, okay. This is like. What's the beauty place that has commercials?
David
Sally's Sally.
Clark Jones
Yeah, right, right, right. Sally might give you a black plastic bag. But the best beauty supply, like the factory joint with like immigrants.
David
When it's like the Korean warehouse.
Langston Kerman
Yes.
Clark Jones
Yeah. But it got everything you need. Remote control cars with the high end thinner.
David
Yeah, I know, I know. Exactly speaking my shit.
Clark Jones
Yeah, yeah. That blue plastic bag is. So there's nothing in there. It's like Blue Magic. It's like the Eagle Rock Target. Like it's just three T shirts.
Langston Kerman
And a lot of our listeners will relate to that reference.
Clark Jones
I'm saying when they visit. When they visit now. Cause when you come to la, you don't stay downtown anymore.
Langston Kerman
And you got to hit that Eagle Rock down.
Clark Jones
You gotta hit that with the open flame, open pit right in the. Oh. Some of the best street meats meet in the. In the city. I'm dead ass. Y' all been there, man. Come on, stop acting like y'.
David Bore
All.
David
He's talking about ass. Some of the best street meats.
Clark Jones
That's some of the best street meats in the city. When you stay with your cousin to come see la, go to the Eagle Rock. Target right next to the. Yeah, they got the. Your girl.
David
All right, we don't. What are we talking about?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I rambled.
David
How to get to the Eagle Rock. They're not going right up the highway.
Clark Jones
You don't think they will?
David
They got a Popeyes right there. This is gonna be the Zenku chicken.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David
Which is.
Langston Kerman
What is the guy who works at Zenku? His name is Mike. I've talked to him quite a bit. He's pretty cool. But his dad is Ralph. Ralph is an asshole.
David
He don't work Thursdays.
Clark Jones
Listen, it's by Issa Rae Coffee shop. So I know white people know where it's at.
Langston Kerman
Okay. What I have felt in this conversation is a little bit of peace, I guess, in that.
David
Yeah, you should. I think you're okay.
Langston Kerman
I think there has been sort of like, this campaign that to throw away a plastic bag is anti black somehow.
David
Right.
Langston Kerman
And I don't think that that's true. And I think we gotta free ourselves from those expectations.
David
How many containers do you need? At some point.
Langston Kerman
At some point, you gotta give something away.
David
Yeah. Yeah.
Clark Jones
Huh. I think that it depends on, like, I need a rolling start on, like, anti black. You can't just do one thing right. So as far as napkins go, like, what's your stance on that? Do you collect them still? Are you doodling?
David
Are you throwing?
Clark Jones
Are you using them all? Yeah. Are they in the. Like, the utensil? Like, how. What's your stance on that?
David
It's in the utensil drawer.
Clark Jones
You still have the napkins?
David
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
I keep my napkins.
Clark Jones
Okay. Well, yeah. You still black then, man?
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clark Jones
Like, two of those. Throwing away plastic bags and not having napkins, all purpose. That coon card, you gonna throw it on, you're done.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David
How many packets of honey do you have in your spice drawer?
Langston Kerman
More than I would like.
David
Yeah, same.
Langston Kerman
I would say an obstructive amount.
David
Yeah, but we get all this honey.
Clark Jones
From honey sauce, they call it. Why is it honey sauce.
Langston Kerman
Cause it can't be real honey.
Clark Jones
Legally, he ate just some honey.
David
What we did to this shit, we.
Langston Kerman
Can'T call this honey.
Clark Jones
We put some sauce on it. It's sweet.
Langston Kerman
I will say that I am the one that eventually throws stuff away in my home though.
David
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Like if it were not for me, eventually our home would be overrun with plastic bags and honey packs.
David
But I think that's just you being a father, a provider, a leader of a household.
Langston Kerman
Okay. I like the way you're phrasing.
Clark Jones
This is new father shit. Getting rid of stuff. That's the dad. The new millennial dad way.
Langston Kerman
That's how I'm trying to get. I'm gonna get rid of the family eventually. It's gonna be a pretty house.
Clark Jones
Just stamping. Thank you, thank you, thank you. On your kids. Like you gotta go too. Any people thank you on it. Gotta go.
David
No. You just can only hoard so many resources.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
You know what I mean? And like it's like we're acting like plastic bag billionaires.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
We're doing the same thing. Right. But you gotta release some of it back into the community.
Langston Kerman
I think that's fair.
Clark Jones
The value will never go up on plastic bags.
Langston Kerman
No.
Clark Jones
There's no long term plan with this.
Langston Kerman
No. Watch next week there's gonna be like a famine. And then suddenly plastic bags are gonna be this essential resource.
Clark Jones
Well, they are just document.
David
I also do have stashes of plastic bags around my house. As one would do with like drug money.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
I just got like. There's like a tote bag full of plastic bags.
Langston Kerman
Plastic bags under your mattress?
Clark Jones
Just that one suitcase you never use.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
It's like in a ceiling tile.
Langston Kerman
Somebody knocks on the door, you're flushing plastic bags down the toilet. What did you do?
David
I threw it out.
Clark Jones
Why? They would have never found Karen. I had to throw it out. They were going to get us.
Langston Kerman
All right. Our guest today. I think we did as much as we could do.
Clark Jones
Yeah. They know what the most about the introduction. There's nothing more.
Langston Kerman
Our guest today, he hails from Chicago, Illinois. He's a dear friend, a hilarious comedian. You know him from so many things. The fucking best. Give it up, Clark Jones.
Clark Jones
I blow your God damn head. Smooth off.
David
That's pretty good.
Clark Jones
Oh man, I love this. I feel like for this is showing the age. I feel like the wonder years. Like the older sister.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
That seen some shit in the world and comes back to tell Kevin and the other brother. What's the other brother's name?
David
Wayne.
Clark Jones
Wayne. Wayne. I don't know which one is Kevin or Wayne between you guys.
David
I don't know.
Clark Jones
Because whoever's doing better is Kevin at that point in time. Cause y' all be trading off. Y' all really be elevating each other, man.
David
That's what I said.
Langston Kerman
I think we leave that to the audience to see.
Clark Jones
Yeah. And the Reddit. The Reddit, definitely.
David
Even in that point. We don't trust them. Yeah.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
David Bore
What about listening to them for.
David
Yeah, y' all listen to us. It's already backwards.
Clark Jones
Yep. Street is talking about the My Mama Said podcast.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. And that is what it's called.
Clark Jones
My Mama Said.
Langston Kerman
That's what we've been calling it this whole time.
David
That's what every host that of a comedy show I've done in the last.
Langston Kerman
Six months since My Mama Said.
David
My mama.
Clark Jones
My Mama Said.
David
And then it starts. Confident. It's like he's the host of the My Mama Is Going to Tell podcast.
Langston Kerman
My Mama Was There When It Happened podcast.
David
He's on the Don't Wake Daddy podcast.
Clark Jones
My daddy was on some bullshit. Y'. All. Y' all make some noise right now. Come on now. It's beautiful. I think that was my name.
Langston Kerman
We have reached a point of success where people are somehow aware that we exist and also not aware enough to invest in learning the important details of they don't care.
David
And that's okay.
Clark Jones
Place to be.
Langston Kerman
I think it's a beautiful place to be.
Clark Jones
I've learned people don't care when I had Classic Black dude no matter what on the podcast. Like me just now, man. I love classic. What's it? Classic Bros. The classic Black Bros. Yeah, man. Like, whatever the audience wants is what the host is gonna give. Whatever, you know, whatever sounds right.
Langston Kerman
And we are some hoes. If you want us to change the name.
Clark Jones
Come on, man.
Langston Kerman
Pitch a good one.
David
Honestly. 10 racks. You can name it.
Langston Kerman
You can name the podcast.
Clark Jones
Y' all name the price. We're naming the podcast $10,000. You agree? You co sign it.
Langston Kerman
You will be an executive tonight.
Clark Jones
A piece total. 10 piece.
David
If I were to check. Oh, that's.
Langston Kerman
It's your podcast, baby.
David
Come on.
Clark Jones
There's been a change.
Langston Kerman
A toast to the new host.
David
I think you really. My Mama said you greatly overestimate. We're making.
Clark Jones
Welcome back to Black what the, Man. We here new host.
David
What the folks.
Clark Jones
Black what the stars. All right, man, we're back.
Langston Kerman
Clark, you came to us with a conspiracy theory that. That when David and I heard it, we both got very excited.
Clark Jones
About it.
David
This is going to be good.
Clark Jones
Yeah, I was very nervous about it.
Langston Kerman
I was like you said. My mama told me porn sites secretly take photos of users to potentially blackmail you later. I'd rather check myself before I wreck myself. That's right.
Clark Jones
There is a database of O faces. Oh, man. Much like Twitter used to keep a record of all. I mean, the Library of Congress used to keep a record of all tweets, I think, up until 2015. Really?
David
I didn't know that.
Clark Jones
You didn't know that?
David
No.
Clark Jones
Yeah. You didn't know they started or that they stopped? No, no, no, no. Yeah, no.
David
I've been on Twitter for a while.
Clark Jones
Me too. But I still keep up with the news. And no matter what. That's another one. No matter what they call it, It's Twitter, right?
David
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Somebody like, they was like. Like even on Truth, they were like, oh, the President tweeted this. I'm like, that's.
David
Wait, you were on Truth too?
Clark Jones
Well, they. People, people who supposedly hate him keep talking about stuff that he tweets from that. That garbage ass website.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
But yeah, no, I think there is a. What's more damning, what's scarier from Yalls own experience from hearing the conspiracy theory than you getting out of line and them just having you, your O face ready out there. I don't have a. I'm disheveled. No. I'm ashy. Some of the worst. Like, I just don't care. And it's coming like. Like that. What's that called?
David
Area. Do you think your old face is gonna be that surprising to anybody?
Clark Jones
I think my looking for porn face is probably the ugliest face.
David
But that's different than your O face though.
Clark Jones
It's a running. It's a running every.
David
Cause the looking, the looking, the looking.
Langston Kerman
The frenzied looking, the desperation.
Clark Jones
I gotta go to sleep in five minutes.
David
That's a worry because I caught myself in the light. Like, oh no. Like when you see what's going on for real.
Langston Kerman
I think the real bummer is if they get the footage of you walking to get a tissue after because you didn't set up properly.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Oh man.
Langston Kerman
They just get that sad fucking stumble.
Clark Jones
Like, oh man, should I shower tonight or wait till the morning? Like the content after any of those. There's no like good porn interaction face.
Langston Kerman
No, no, I.
David
Do you think this is specifically for men or do you think it also goes for women?
Clark Jones
I don't think women make faces when they orgasm.
David
So.
Clark Jones
Joking. Come on, guys.
Langston Kerman
Brother, I Was terrified.
David
Guys, I ain't playing knuckle.
Clark Jones
David did a demonstrative. He's doing Red Fox.
David
Yo.
Clark Jones
He's doing Red Fox.
David
Harriet, I'm coming to join you, honey. Harriet.
Clark Jones
So funny. Elizabeth.
Langston Kerman
Elizabeth.
Clark Jones
Yeah, Black people call it. We need to call her name. That's true.
David
That's true. And that was my foray into impressions. My toray into impressions.
Langston Kerman
I was very worried about you. I'm glad you know the difference.
Clark Jones
Yeah, I think just women are just more careful about everything. Like they actually paying for everything. So you don't get that random blink flashing. You don't see that flashing white light you get when you go to the wrong. Like those really like dirty grungy, like the pop up. That's when they get you.
Langston Kerman
Oh, you think it's.
David
You're clicking on the games.
Clark Jones
Like, not intentionally. They make it impossible not to. There's no X button. Where's the X button? There's no X button.
David
I'm trying to see Lois from favorite guy Bundle, man.
Clark Jones
That dude. Well, whoever introduced that, like, what research did they do? They're like, yo, motherfuckers want to see love.
Langston Kerman
Everybody want to see love.
Clark Jones
Marge is out. We need Lois in here. And those two. I mean, Lois, if a real person, you know, would you single, no kids, would y'. All. A real life Lois.
Langston Kerman
It is not. It is not out of the realm of possibility. It just feels like an imagination game I played many years ago.
Clark Jones
Okay.
David
Oh, it took you back to a spot.
Clark Jones
It's something that you have a path you have crossed mentally.
Langston Kerman
This feels like some shit that I was doing in like 10th grade where I was like, what if Lois was real?
Clark Jones
Right.
Langston Kerman
It's like I've seen human women now. So I. You know what I mean? I'm not like. I'm not like seeking out Lois anymore because I was like, oh, I've seen.
Clark Jones
They know what we like, man. Fucking Seth MacFarlane. He knows black people. He does. He's done so well. I'm being full of shit right now, but you know. Yeah, no, Seth MacFarlane, he knows black people.
Langston Kerman
He knows black people.
Clark Jones
You got. But you were in Boston, right? You did.
Langston Kerman
I lived there for. Yeah, three years, man.
Clark Jones
Looking back at it now, it seems like so much more. But anyway, yeah, they. I think that's the blackmail. That. That's like the last ditch effort.
Langston Kerman
I will say, if you get out.
David
Of line, it is tough to like. It's so much vulnerable than even like a dick picture leaking.
Langston Kerman
I think.
David
I think the, like, that's Like. Cause you control that. You set that light up the.
Langston Kerman
I bet the information they're releasing isn't just the photo. I bet, like, they will track everything that you're looking at and sort of consuming the things that you engage with. And then ideally are using all of that as blackmail information.
David
I'm most worried about the words I put in to find what I got.
Langston Kerman
Absolutely.
Clark Jones
For example? For example. Not today, baby. The government know I can't know.
Langston Kerman
The listeners can't.
Clark Jones
The government know, but the listeners.
David
But just let's say I try to get creative and it's not the space for experiments.
Clark Jones
Yeah. Sometimes you just like, after. This is why you gotta leave when you're done. And when I say leave, I mean, like after you're done with ever stuff you're doing, you can't just be like, still on the stuff. Cause you'll start getting like, looking for.
Langston Kerman
Stuff, you know, Are people doing that?
Clark Jones
People stick around, really, and just be searching.
Langston Kerman
Whoa.
David
That's awful.
Clark Jones
That's sinister. That's worse. That's bad.
David
That's the worst shit I ever heard.
Langston Kerman
That's nasty.
David
Are you serious?
Clark Jones
No post nut clarity. There's gotta be somebody out there. No, there's somebody out there with no post nut clarity.
Langston Kerman
Crazy.
Clark Jones
They're just still as diabolical as they were.
David
That's an animal.
Langston Kerman
I guess I.
David
Would you put that guy in jail?
Langston Kerman
You live in a more cynical world than I, sir.
David
I never even thought of.
Clark Jones
Hey, I'd be in the streets, man.
Langston Kerman
To me, it always seemed like a rule. A fact of the world is that after you finish, you close that as fast as you can, you swipe up, you get the fuck out of there as quickly as you possibly can.
David
After I finish. It looks crazy to me.
Langston Kerman
It looks nuts.
David
I'm like, oh, why would I look at this?
Clark Jones
I gotta get off YouTube.
Langston Kerman
I'm a distinguished gentleman. Why would I be looking at this?
David
Harriet.
Clark Jones
I'm coming.
David
Yeah. No, that really made my blood run cold. That's like.
Clark Jones
That would be one of the more. More terrifying conditions if I did not have post night clarity.
Langston Kerman
I think you gotta have that.
David
Yeah, you gotta.
Clark Jones
It's possible somebody's out there. Just like room, you know, you have.
David
To be like, whoa.
Langston Kerman
Although I guess that is what gooning is, is that they're surrounding themselves, speeding through the lights. Well, gooning, as I understand it, is the people who. And I'm sorry that I have to keep you guys hip. I am very.
Clark Jones
No, I know what gooning is.
Langston Kerman
I am very connected to the youth.
Clark Jones
I see it, but I don't quite know exactly.
Langston Kerman
Gooning is when you make porn and sort of like all the. That are your like fucking the things you beat off to. Like a fully immersive experience. Like you are surrounding yourself with screens and like pictures and like lock. Like there are goon caves where people.
Clark Jones
You're like comfortable and you're.
Langston Kerman
You're sort of like pushing yourself to the maximum. Like come to the maximum.
Clark Jones
Yeah, like the 3D goggles you can.
Langston Kerman
But I think you want it. The cave is supposed to be like more like an IMAX situation.
David
It's like Minority Report.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it is.
Clark Jones
Your head here is from Truman Show.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Cut to the money shot. Do it.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, but you're yelling at you the whole time.
Clark Jones
Oh, you're the only person in the room.
Langston Kerman
You're the only person gooning. I think by yourself.
David
That's dark.
Langston Kerman
And I think I have to assume that when those dudes are finished, they are assembling a new wall of goon tastic materials.
Clark Jones
You gotta keep pushing yourself, man. And I just don't know. I don't know how, but there's. There's always another. There's always another floor that you haven't been to.
Langston Kerman
That's right.
David
You know what? No.
Clark Jones
You think there's a. You think there's a.
David
No, no, no. I think yeah, at some point. I like this floor.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I think so.
Clark Jones
No, man, that's. There's always gonna be some shit you.
David
Haven'T put your dick in. There's just so much shit. You got one dick.
Clark Jones
See, now your shit's coming out. Let's talk about it. There's always something you haven't put your dick in.
Langston Kerman
I think that's what they're. The goons. That's what they're thinking is like there is more to be goon.
David
And that's what I'm saying. It's like. It's like at some point you gotta be your own restrict. Because there's no. There's no max. It's a game you can't beat. It's fucking golf, dog. There's like.
Langston Kerman
You can't.
Clark Jones
I don't think.
David
And after a while, then like golf, you're only gooning against yourself.
Langston Kerman
That's true.
David
You're only gooning. It's not like. It's not like it's a competition in a real way. It's like. And now if you're just gooning for what you're. That's limitless. That's like you're gonna lose a lot of money.
Langston Kerman
And even the community you could share this with is not an ideal sect of people.
David
No.
Langston Kerman
This isn't like the type of people who are pushing you forward in any other part of your life.
David
No, no.
Clark Jones
You can't use your real name to talk about this stuff. There has to be numbers involved.
Langston Kerman
I have seen a documentary where. About gooning specifically where the person who is the gooner is in a mask the whole time.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Because he should be as they should.
David
We should make them wear. We should make them wear scarlet letters.
Clark Jones
G. G. What would the letter be? It would be G. It has to.
David
Be G. And then they'll do an underground like the Christians with the fish. Like one guy will lay down, he'll just do a half a G in the sand and the other guy finishes it.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Hands all sticky together.
Clark Jones
Strong hands. You gotta be around.
David
You're hurting me. You're hurting me.
Clark Jones
You think it's like goons, man?
David
No, no, no formal goons. No. Not even.
Clark Jones
No T shirt with a G crossed out.
Langston Kerman
He.
Clark Jones
I wouldn't do that.
Langston Kerman
The only thing I goon is the Lord.
Clark Jones
That's it.
Langston Kerman
You know what I mean?
Clark Jones
That's it.
Langston Kerman
Surround me.
Clark Jones
Left hand up.
Langston Kerman
Surround me.
David
You look at his search history.
Langston Kerman
Gooning the Lord. Let's see.
Clark Jones
They gonna use that.
Langston Kerman
Let's see what Google use that when.
Clark Jones
You run for comptroller of Los Angeles third district.
Langston Kerman
Let's see what Google has in mind for me. Goon and the Lord.
Clark Jones
That's what be. That's hilarious. That's what be getting me. Like they finding out like comments. People like that one dude in North Carolina when they found out his comments he made on porn sites that were anti MLK in the South.
David
Also though. What are you doing commenting?
Clark Jones
What are you doing commenting? What are you doing?
Langston Kerman
Being political already a bad sign to talk to.
Clark Jones
I understand the. Okay, what's her at? Cool. That's the most. That's the most.
Langston Kerman
You heard it here first, folks. This comments on porn.
Clark Jones
No, I read comments on them sometimes I'm finished and I can't. This nigga. Sometimes, yo. Sometimes you close like 20 windows at once and you run across a comment. I'm not saying me. I'm saying in the logical realm of this brother is hitting porn sites is the most commonly. I did research for this episode. Unlike y'. All. I did research. I'm a good guess. The most commonly used phrase is not fuck mlk. What's her act? I looked it up.
Langston Kerman
Damn.
Clark Jones
Because I don't know why people would be making comments. Those are the people who don't have post not clarity. They stay, they stick around. They build an actual true profile.
Langston Kerman
It's a genuinely sad thing.
David
Yeah, it is. Real credit guy. That's when you're like, oh, adults really don't have friends, bro.
Langston Kerman
If you're creating community around this thing that everybody is ashamed of, for better or worse, we all sort of bear this shame about sex and sexuality, especially in the privacy of our own homes.
Clark Jones
Don't be trying to use your University of Michigan voice to talk about this dastardly shit, brother.
David
Stop that.
Clark Jones
Stop that.
Langston Kerman
We just turn on each other in every comment.
Clark Jones
You will not clash this conversation. Nope, nope, nope. I bet. And I know this is gonna make the episode very too relevant to current times, but I bet that University of Michigan coach has, like, uses his University of Michigan email to sign up for porn things.
Langston Kerman
That's a brother that comments.
Clark Jones
That's a brother that comments.
Langston Kerman
And that is how you find yourself in the troubling situation that he's found himself in.
Clark Jones
Every mistake that can't be made, he will make it. Yeah, I've noticed there are people still out there throwing. At one point, he was the head of a very respected program. Yeah, Shout out to Ohio, too. No disrespect.
Langston Kerman
I don't think we have to shout them out. I went to the school. None of us went to Ohio State. Chill out.
David
That's true.
Clark Jones
I get money in Cleveland, though.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
Clark Jones
I'm Gary Cameron. Remember that. Get it in Ohio.
Langston Kerman
That ain't the city.
Clark Jones
That's the difference. That's the difference.
David Bore
That's the difference.
Clark Jones
Amen.
David
Columbus now the biggest city in Ohio.
Langston Kerman
Whoa. Past Cleveland. Damn.
Clark Jones
Really? Yeah. Yeah, man, that downtown is rough, though.
David
Columbus or Cleveland?
Clark Jones
Columbus.
David
Yeah, I went to a bar down there last time I was doing gigs, and it was like, me. My opener was way more on it. He was like, I think we gotta get outta here.
Clark Jones
Yeah, man, they closed. Like, it was like a black art store down there. That was like, look, man, we gotta get rid of all this shit. It's like, is that Langston Hughes's old diary? Like, like, shit, what you want? Make me an offer. It was like a dollar for the authentic love letters from Dr. King to Coretta.
Langston Kerman
Look, bro, if we don't get out by five, they gonna kill us.
Clark Jones
They gonna kill you.
Langston Kerman
We about to be dead, so, yeah.
Clark Jones
We gonna lose more than this store. But it was. Yeah, that's great, though. Columbus.
Langston Kerman
Before we go to break, I. I have to Ask. Do you feel like this is gonna slow down your consumption?
Clark Jones
It already has.
David
Okay.
Clark Jones
It's like I'm down to eight screens. It already has. I'm, like, in a relationship. Like, life is looking up now. Yeah, yeah.
David
Once you got out the goon cave.
Clark Jones
I'm an extremist man. Like, if I'm gonna stop looking at porn sites, I'm allowed to be a viable relationship person and that. They all work together. Yeah. Shout out to the ladies out there, making the men in this room very happy.
David
Shout out.
Langston Kerman
Shout out.
David
Not a big listener.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
What if they're the only listener?
David
Does Nikki actually listen to episodes?
Langston Kerman
No, but she. She is such a. A dedicated partner that she will reshare everything she does. She reshares every single thing we do, regardless of whether or not she's gonna consume this. She's like, yep, go crazy.
David
Appreciate that.
Langston Kerman
Proud of them and. Yeah, I appreciate it. So you're saying. You're saying it's more your partnership that made you pull back than the actual, like.
Clark Jones
Well, no. Pulling back has led me to be a better man. Yeah, like. And I'm talking about, like, immediately. Like, 80s, bald fade. No, gradual. It was like, I'm not doing that anymore. Let me jump immediate into how life can be better now. Now that I have time to do shit. Yeah, it's cool. It's better. Like, real sex is way better. Yeah, don't listen to that one weird kid with the suit. The Mexican kid with the suit who's a virgin. Nick Fuentes.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
No, no, no, don't listen to him. Sex is good.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Mexican is not how I describe him.
Clark Jones
Fuentes.
Langston Kerman
Hispanic for sure, but white supremacist is.
Clark Jones
More about what he.
David
Way to describe Nick Fuentes as the one kid with the suit.
Clark Jones
The crazy Mexican with the suit.
Langston Kerman
He is rooted in the most kind of hate.
Clark Jones
Yeah, the worst hate.
Langston Kerman
That's usually how I get people to be like, oh, Nick Fuentes.
Clark Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. White supremacist. Yeah, yeah. What does he talk. I never listened to him. What's his name?
David
He is.
Langston Kerman
He is not on our side. Yeah, he's pretty vocal about it. And the one bites the dust. Damn, we almost had him, huh?
David
Almost had him.
Langston Kerman
We almost had that cool ass dude.
Clark Jones
Fuck yeah, man. I just.
Langston Kerman
Fuck, we really wanted to hang out with you, Nick Fuentes.
Clark Jones
He could. He would. He. He should name the podcast. I know. He got $10,000.
David
Now it's 20.
Clark Jones
Now it's 20. The price went up.
Langston Kerman
The price.
Clark Jones
Yesterday's price is not today.
Langston Kerman
It's not today's price.
David
Oh, my God.
Clark Jones
That's. My biggest fear is to become Fat Joe as a guest on the podcast and just over talk. So I'm gonna show.
Langston Kerman
Fat Joe, I think has somehow turned into a better podcaster than he ever was a musician.
David
I think it's so. I like hearing him talk.
Clark Jones
You like him cutting people off.
David
I just. I just like. I watch his clips though. I don't watch. I don't listen to any podcast.
Clark Jones
Ah, okay.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David
So I just hear it like him say something and then Jada kiss. Like it wasn't open or whatever.
Clark Jones
Him. Yo, it wasn't even like that.
David
Yeah, that's pretty good. That was really good.
Clark Jones
Tell. Yeah. How it was. Yeah. But I'mma just. Okay. Any. It could be any subject. Fat Joe has a story of him doing that.
Langston Kerman
It's really. He. He's a. He's a beautiful liar.
Clark Jones
It's the ketamine, bro.
Langston Kerman
He tells the best stories. And also he looks insane. Like just the whole aesthetic is fucking wild. From the beginning. He's in a Pelly Peli jacket inside always.
Clark Jones
Yes.
Langston Kerman
It's the fucking best. I can't get enough of Fat Joe as a talker.
David
I love a character.
Langston Kerman
I wasn't interested in him as a. But as a character. This is a very funny dude.
David
I liked a couple songs. What's Love. I liked that song for him.
Langston Kerman
Or was it? Cause he had a fun hook? Yeah.
David
I like that lifestyle song. You don't really wanna live. Never seen a brick. Never seen a crack house. I like that song. That's pretty good.
Clark Jones
I like New York. New York.
Langston Kerman
Okay.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
See, and that wasn't even really his shit. But he acted like it was.
David
He was in there.
Langston Kerman
I'm saying he was real podcast. I wasn't mad at him being on song. But nobody is talking about the albums in the catalog.
Clark Jones
Yeah, I know. Still Envy. I know. No album cuts of Fat Joe.
David
No.
David Bore
Like deep.
Langston Kerman
He's nobody's favorite rapper. So it's dope that he could be somebody's favorite. Old man talking into a microphone.
Clark Jones
Amen. And he's the only one using the brown Beijing. That's different. But most people got the black Beijing filling in. So he's good.
David
That's funny. I never even thought about other colors of Beijing.
Clark Jones
He got the light brown one. He did get that light brown in the black plastic bag. You go to a good beauty supply.
Langston Kerman
And they're never gonna run out of.
Clark Jones
Supply on his shit. Never.
Langston Kerman
He's.
Clark Jones
He's fine.
David
Are you guys. As we get older, are you guys thinking about enhancements ever? Like, when he asks, do you ever.
Langston Kerman
Like, I don't want it.
David
I don't either. I say no. But last. The last time he asked me was the first time I was like, maybe.
Clark Jones
In New York, they weren't asking. In Chicago, they weren't asking. Like, when it came to Beijing in New York, they weren't asking like, they were doing the eyebrows. Did y' all ever have that in Brooklyn?
Langston Kerman
They cut up your eyebrows. Eyebrows.
Clark Jones
The Dominican barbers.
David
Oh, three slices.
Clark Jones
Not even three slices. They would arch my.
David
While out.
Clark Jones
Yeah, they would hit you, like, trying to. Trying to. Trying to be out. Like, they were really. Yeah, they were crazy. They were arching eyebrows in. In Bushwick, Brooklyn, I think I got.
Langston Kerman
Asked once by my Dominican barber, and I was like, nah. And then we never talked about it again.
Clark Jones
Yeah, you just went to the one down the street. Every three doors is a. I was.
Langston Kerman
Like, now I'm never leaving you, because, you know, so I don't do that.
David
Yeah, that's true.
Langston Kerman
Now we got a good, consistent rhythm here.
David
You guys understand each other?
Clark Jones
Yeah, yeah. Nah, I don't right now. It's a. You know, I like what I got and chick fuck with it, so I don't want no extra.
Langston Kerman
No porn, no archdiocese.
David
Come on.
Clark Jones
No brown Beijing, no enhancements.
David
One scream, one love, one heart, one mic.
Clark Jones
One love, one shot time. Saying nothing like that.
Langston Kerman
33 crackheads in the park after dark minus one, that's Jesus.
Clark Jones
Yo, hold up. Let me finish, let me finish.
David
I love it when they say, hold.
Clark Jones
Up, hold up, hold up. I said. I said battle rap is.
David
Battle rap is the funniest rap. It is.
Langston Kerman
It's funny when they get mad because people are laughing at their joke.
Clark Jones
Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Let me finish this.
David
We.
Clark Jones
We're talking about the exact same rapper, too. He wears a suit. I forget his name. It's escaping me. But him check out oh, Solo, bring two, three.
David
That I don't understand why it's good, but I've seen that clip so many times, bro.
Langston Kerman
He went crazy.
Clark Jones
He is the best.
David
And then I've seen clips where they're like, let me do the. Oh, Solo. And I'm like, no, I don't really. I think I got it.
Clark Jones
He's super humble, too.
David
I think that's what he meant when he did it the first time.
Clark Jones
If you post on one of his videos, he replies like, it's 2012. IG.
David
Whoa.
Clark Jones
Like, he like, hey, thank you, God. I really Appreciate that. I'm like, man, why you. You doing this for everybody or just me? You know what I mean? Like, I did a little joke, but, like, no, he's super cool cat man, and very, very, very funny.
David
I don't know any other verses besides that. Hey, Michael's Brandy.
Clark Jones
Go down that clickhole, man of O solo battle raps. You. You won't regret it.
Langston Kerman
I have my battle rap era.
Clark Jones
I, I, you done?
Langston Kerman
I, I, I just don't tap back in the way I should anymore.
David
Was it like king of the Dot Time. Time frame?
Langston Kerman
I, I think when I was doing it, Cassidy was still.
David
Oh, you were doing. No, no, no, no, no.
Langston Kerman
Not participating, but just sort of when I was investing. It was sort of that era of like, he was still.
David
Yeah, but was.
Clark Jones
So was that a fork in a row for you? Because you were doing slam poetry.
Langston Kerman
That's true.
Clark Jones
And so you could either become a battle rapper or a comedian.
David
That's two very different lines.
Clark Jones
I don't think that's the fork.
Langston Kerman
I don't think comedian is as much of a factor in slam as people think it is. I don't think people are, like, often being like, oh, I'm gonna pivot this into comedy. As much as it would seem like a natural segue, I do think a lot of people see themselves as rappers. I was very certain I was not that from the beginning, I was like, I'm not a rapper. I never wanna be a rapper. At one point, I aspired to be, like, a producer more than I wanted to be a rapper. I was like, oh, I'm gonna make beats. And I got my parents to buy me turntables for Christmas and shit. And then couldn't figure it out.
David
And I was like, you know, what's so crazy? Similar story.
Clark Jones
Yeah, I could see you DJing.
David
Yeah. I really thought it was my. And then I provided, begged, probably for maybe a year and a half.
Langston Kerman
Same.
David
And then they came and I. I snapped. One of the belts.
Clark Jones
Was going too hard.
David
Immediately, I got him downstairs.
Langston Kerman
That's not scratching.
David
Yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
That'S putting a dent in it.
David
And then I was. Yo, I got embarrassed to ask for more. I was just like, they're not gonna give me any more shit. I don't have any money. And I busted it in, like, two days.
Langston Kerman
That's nuts.
Clark Jones
Yeah, busted the belt on the. That is ins. I have never heard anyone say that they did that before.
David
Yeah, it wasn't cool, man.
Langston Kerman
No, there was me and there was one other dude in my neighborhood who, like, also had turntables. And we would, like, try to practice together every once in a while. And he was getting, getting. He was seeing forward progress.
Clark Jones
He was getting good at it in.
Langston Kerman
A way that I was not. And I was like, oh, I. I don't think I have a skill for this.
David
Right.
Clark Jones
Okay.
Langston Kerman
I think especially if we're talking and this is before Internet, dj, whatever versions of the thing, this was just two classic ass turntables and like a two channel mixer, bro. I didn't have it. And I was like, nope, never mind.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Did you give your equipment to him?
Langston Kerman
No, he had his own equipment.
Clark Jones
Listen, man, I just want to help you on your journey. You know what I'm saying, brother?
Langston Kerman
I want to be a mentor to you.
Clark Jones
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm a manager. That's how I got into comedy. I told Will I was gonna manage him at first, really, to help him with his jokes.
David
So funny.
Clark Jones
And then I had wrote some that didn't fit. We talking about comedian Will Miles? Yeah, I. I had wrote something that didn't fit, like his voice, obviously. Him and I have different upbringings, and so I tried it, and that's how I got snapped into doing stuff.
Langston Kerman
That's crazy.
David
How old were you guys? You guys were. Cause you guys went to high school together, right?
Clark Jones
Went to high school, went to college. Both started teaching. So we, like, early 20s when he first started doing improv. And then he was like, well, I'm gonna do some stand. They say you gotta do standup, too. And I was like, all right, well, I'll write you some. Cause I was a journalist.
Langston Kerman
Journalism.
Clark Jones
Master's student. Master's degree. What. What do you call it? Candidate. Yeah. And I was like, I'll just write.
Langston Kerman
Hey, it's your title, brother.
Clark Jones
Yeah. All right. This is just a ketchup hang. If y'.
David
All.
Clark Jones
You know, keep all this though, y'. All, this is gonna be important one day. But, yeah. So I was like, we don't have the budget. Not yet. But when that. When that money come in, Nick Fuentes.
David
Money, once we get that. 20 bands.
Clark Jones
They had 25 bands. Yeah, let's keep pushing. Yeah. No, I was just like, yeah, let me just write some stuff. And we both thought it was funny. We was like, this ain't gonna sound right coming for me. And then I did it, and that's how I started doing standup.
Langston Kerman
I will say that you were one of the first comedians that I ever saw at my first open mic was at that Doc Ryan's open Mic, that was all the way in Forest Park. You were driving very far to be there.
Clark Jones
I was driving. Dude, I know this ain't a comedy podcast. Maybe it is.
Langston Kerman
It don't matter.
Clark Jones
We ain't doing it. The mileage you put on your car to go just to get on that microphone, man.
David
Yeah. No. Y' all had cars when you started?
Clark Jones
Oh, yeah.
David
Okay.
Clark Jones
Can you not have a car in.
David
Denver like I started in San Francisco? You don't need a car at all.
Clark Jones
All those hills, though. Were you walking?
David
Here's the thing about San Francisco. The higher up the hill, the more money there is. So all the open mics, not at the top of the hill. They about to launch a lot of, like, SOMA missions. Like, not a lot of areas where you gotta, like, walk uphill.
Clark Jones
A lot of flatlands.
David
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Clark Jones
Damn. Yeah.
David
But a lot of bus miles, too.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
I feel safe on the San Francisco bus. I don't know what it is. I just. I like. I think I could do this. I think it's the full house effect.
David
Really? Anything besides the 91, the N, the owl? Everything besides the owl. I mean, like, you know, stuff happens on the bus because it's a city, but it's really not.
Langston Kerman
I like buses that are tied to the sky. You know how they're all. They're on the cable car. Yeah, well, they're just. They're. A lot of the San Francisco buses are, like on the stream, on the thing. Yeah.
David
On the wire. Yeah, yeah.
Langston Kerman
To avoid gas and shit. And for whatever reason, that makes me feel like it's actually on a track.
David
Oh, interesting.
Clark Jones
Like more control situation than a bus that's just loose.
David
That's fair. They don't have a lot of loose buses.
Langston Kerman
There's not loose buses in San Francisco.
David
And then the above ground train is actually on the track.
Langston Kerman
It's on a track. Everything is on a track out there. And so in that on the bar.
Clark Jones
The BART is on it. Yeah.
David
Well, no, but there's also the muni trains above ground.
Langston Kerman
Like the trolley joints.
David
No, no, no. Trolleys are like, more for like, tourists. Because it just. It's like one part.
Langston Kerman
Right.
David
But there's like above ground trains, too.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That run in the street.
David
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then on the outskirts of the city, and then during the middle of the city. This is so interesting.
Clark Jones
This all.
David
It's like there's three stops that are like. Or three or four stops in the middle of the city that are both BART and Munich. So I used to Take the muni train on those stops because you could just show a transfer Bart, they had killed old boy right when I got there. So I didn't really fuck. I didn't steal Bart like that. Wow.
Clark Jones
BART has a certain level of danger. Even as a Chicagoan that just was like, man, some.
David
There's cops for real down there. There's not really ever cops in the muni train stations. In the same way.
Clark Jones
It just didn't feel like it didn't like, at least know when the Chicago dude who is yelling, he's going to start. I know where the trouble's going to come from. Bart. I'm like, it could be that old lady with the kid. It could be anybody who's going to make my life a little bit dangerous. So I didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't grasp it. So, like, I did Ubers everywhere, every time I'm in San Francisco, man. But yeah, I just didn't. Something about that BART man, it just didn't feel the Bart man. It just didn't feel safe.
Langston Kerman
All right, well, I was on it. Heavy. I'll tell you this. Most of you don't give a fuck about nothing. We just talked about camaraderie, though, and that's okay. It's more about a relationship. It's about a bond. And you know what? Your porn is watching you. And we're going to talk more about that when we come. Come back more. Clark Jones. More. My mama told me.
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Clark Jones
How are you? I am under the water. Please help me hear Too much raining.
David
Welcome to Too Madre Hablar Podcasto.
Clark Jones
Eat Mama podcast.
David
Yeah. I thought that was gonna hit so much. I was bad. I was like, these guys are gonna love it.
Langston Kerman
Really crazy.
Clark Jones
I wanted to see how far you was gonna go with it, man.
David
I was. I was gonna dig a deeper hole.
Clark Jones
For sure, brother.
Langston Kerman
I fumbled the intro. You fumbled that one.
David
It happened.
Langston Kerman
We all fumbled the intro.
Clark Jones
We get nervous around each other, man.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
We know too much about each other. Too talky, too chatty.
David
I'm also starting to remember people watch that, and that might be the undoing.
Langston Kerman
Of the podcast that we just leave our failures exposed for people to find.
David
Well, no, more that. Like, I come in here now knowing that a few people. Actually, I usually. The first year or two I was doing it with you, I literally operated like nobody ever looked while we were recording.
Langston Kerman
And that was true.
David
Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Oh, and now I remember sometimes that people are watching.
Clark Jones
Yeah. You would podcast like, no one's watching.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Okay.
David
Live, laugh, love.
Langston Kerman
Speaking of watching, we're talking about the possibility that the government is watching us while we beat our meat.
Clark Jones
That white flash, man. People who really have been into it deep know what I'm talking about.
David
Yeah, you keep saying that. And I thought that I had watched pornography, but now I feel like I don't know what you're talking about.
Clark Jones
It's like them certain popups will get you. Cause I don't watch on my laptop. I've Never watched me either. Usually my laptops are, like, from.
Langston Kerman
No, I respect laptop.
David
Yeah. I don't. I only.
Clark Jones
It's a loner. So that would be. That would be. This has a class code on it. Yeah. They don't block anything because they want to catch you. So. So. So I don't even take a chance.
David
Next time you're here.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
They don't. Every school I worked at, they don't block any sites because they want to catch you.
Langston Kerman
All the teachers that wouldn't allow me to beat my. Me that night.
Clark Jones
Yeah. That principal.
Langston Kerman
Look at me now. I beat my meat whenever I want.
Clark Jones
That IT department.
Langston Kerman
Mrs. Alexander.
Clark Jones
Why is it always Mrs. Alexander?
David
I also feel like the laptop screen.
Clark Jones
Is a little too big.
Langston Kerman
I don't need all that.
Clark Jones
I don't need too big for me.
Langston Kerman
I want to be focused.
David
Yeah. And I just don't need that much of it.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Sometimes I want to get work done.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
I never really want to get work done on my phone. So it's like, yeah, just beat this thing up. I'm gonna get a pause. Just get a new win next year. But laptop. I've been holding on to mine for a little while.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Yeah, man.
Langston Kerman
I. To the question of whether or not folks have been watching. I did. I found a Reddit, sort of talking about this exact issue. There is a person basically claiming that there is a new. Well, there's an article about it on techspot.com saying that new info stealer malware snaps webcam photos when you watch porn. Now, specifically, this malware, according to this article, says that the technology is that it's a feature within the malware, but the malware in it, sort of like breakdown says, we do not do this without your consent, that you would have to agree to have this happen. And that is where I go, shut the fuck up. Yeah.
Clark Jones
Because no agreement is ever that short and direct. Like, you left out 17 paragraphs of a user agreement.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
We don't use this unless there's also. Have y' all been up on this new CIA dude, former CIA dude who's doing all these.
Langston Kerman
Nick Fuentes.
Clark Jones
Man, that nigga's resume is incredible.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, he got a great. Never had sex.
Clark Jones
Has worked with the cat.
David
First guy to ever do that.
Clark Jones
Yeah. Just a crazy leap. No, this is guys saying, like, yes. He's just admitting stuff like, yeah, we will take your smart TV and put a camera in there or activate the camera that's already in there. He's just giving away all these secrets, man. About Actually murdering people, things like that. Not me. Him. And so that's what really activated me even wanting to talk. I'm like, okay, okay. If he's admitting to this, you know, that it's stuff even crazier that's already been done.
Langston Kerman
And I think there's no reason for this technology to exist otherwise. Do you know what I mean? Like, they have.
David
What's the point of it?
Langston Kerman
They have fucking cameras in your refrigerator now.
Clark Jones
Anything with smart in it. You're being watched.
Langston Kerman
That's solely to watch you.
David
That's equally as bad as my porn intake.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
I don't wanna see. I don't want you to see what I'm grabbing.
Clark Jones
No. Oh, my God.
David
How many times. I don't want you to know how long those tenders from Costco lasted. The way.
Langston Kerman
It's not just what I'm eating. It's the way I eat it.
David
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want you to see what I grab after I grab the tenders.
Langston Kerman
I didn't want to.
David
Pairing it with.
Clark Jones
Yeah. Yo, he don't have no honey sauce left. What is he putting that cup.
David
Why is he eating olives with that?
Langston Kerman
You're looking at something that I wish no one would ever find.
David
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clark Jones
That would be.
David
Yeah. I don't want him to see what my coffee just.
Clark Jones
Just people knowing what I forgot is in my fridge. But they know the whole time. But for 30 days, I don't even know. Oh, yeah, they tangerines.
David
They see how long I went before I went back for that ravioli. But then they see that I went back for that ravioli.
Clark Jones
They see you think about not going back for the ravioli.
David
We gotta worry about these fridge. The more that I'm talking about.
Langston Kerman
I think the fridge is a real threat.
David
That's. Yeah, that's.
Langston Kerman
I think the fridge is a real threat. And I think it has a better camera for capturing your whole embarrassing journey.
David
Damn.
Langston Kerman
As opposed to your. Your phone, which is all up here. They don't even get to see your meat like that.
David
Yeah. Now they know I'm getting juice naked.
Langston Kerman
Sometimes, bro, they're seeing you take a scoop of relish.
David
Oh, man, you.
Langston Kerman
Because you ain't got no more pickles, so you just get a scoop of relish. That's crazy.
David
And they can see that there's times.
Langston Kerman
If ever there was a reason for your job to say, hey, we don't think this is a good fit.
David
Oh, man. It's your fridge habits.
Clark Jones
Some of your fridge habits and that data Is available. It's been sold to companies looking to see whether they should hide it. You're the type to look at the date, see that it's off, shake your head and still just put it back in the fridge instead of throwing it away.
Langston Kerman
And I think that the nasty.
David
You cut off just a slice of pie this big, so nobody knew that you ate some of it, but you did that four times. Yes, yes. Everybody knows.
Langston Kerman
And you had the third slice of pie.
Clark Jones
Then you act like the pie never existed. Like you really try to fool yourself.
David
No, baby, I don't pie.
Clark Jones
We don't eat pie.
David
No, I think we left that at your mom's house.
Clark Jones
You crazy.
Langston Kerman
You're crazy.
David
You're a crazy person.
Clark Jones
Your mama ate pie.
Langston Kerman
You've been staring at that yellow wallpaper too long.
Clark Jones
That's the podcast. Welcome back to your mama ate that piece.
David
Which could mean a lot of things.
Clark Jones
If you.
Langston Kerman
It's a queer friendly podcast. Yeah, I would say.
David
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Clark Jones
Y' all need that network.
Langston Kerman
We need that network. All the my mamas. What this reminds me of, though, is that in certain states currently, you have to be sort of giving your identification over to even consume pornography, which is.
David
How I know I'm not a goose. Sooner. I don't like, you know, like Texas and shit, where you're like, all right, yeah, you gotta.
Langston Kerman
I gotta give you my id.
David
That's crazy.
Clark Jones
You gotta take a selfie. You have to take a selfie or in some state, even in California, to prove that you're over 18.
David
California still let you get on.
Clark Jones
They still let you get on.
David
Or maybe I was grandfathered in certain.
Clark Jones
Certain sites I went to years and years ago. David, we know you.
David
Brother.
Langston Kerman
The money we made off of you get in here.
Clark Jones
The screen time alone. But yet, no, there's some where you would submit a photo. And just like with most government conspiracy theories, the first thing to do is to get you used to having a photo submitted to the thing. And that relaxes your. If you're doing. I've never done that. But if you're willing to do, then once it comes out that they've been doing that, you're like, oh, well, it doesn't matter because I gave my photo anyway.
David
No, I don't get my photos for, like, I'll post photos and shit. But like, like, wait, wait, wait for anything like that. AI. When it's like, show us a picture of you in the seventh grade. Bet you won't.
Clark Jones
I hate those photos.
David
I'm never, never.
Langston Kerman
I'm not Participating.
David
None of that. Drop a picture of you in 2004 at 2:35pm on a Tuesday just because.
Clark Jones
My fact is, I bet you won't. I bet you. I bet you won't. Post you at 25 right now.
David
It's always, like, post the hottest version of yourself. That's why people do it.
Langston Kerman
But it's also nasty because we never know the patient zero of that. That chain.
David
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You know what I mean? Like, it's never. Like, a homie is like, hey, y', all, let's just all post our baby photos. It just magically appears in your community as if dropped off by the government, going like, yo, we want to see your baby baby photo so that we can better train this technology to make a fake baby.
David
No, that's a. That. That is a conspiracy. The government is dropping off AI AI prompts in the hood.
Langston Kerman
I think, 100%.
David
Damn.
Langston Kerman
I think they are just collecting our image in every possible form.
David
That's how it feels to me. A lot like those. Especially those timeline ones where it's like, why is this every. Why do you want pictures of me from before I was of age?
Langston Kerman
It's weird.
David
You know what I mean?
Clark Jones
Well, this is one of the big theories. I don't know if I could do multiple theories on here, brother.
Langston Kerman
There are no rules.
Clark Jones
There's no. Oh, that's right. This is the name of the pot.
Langston Kerman
He's on drugs.
David
We smoke drugs on the way here.
Clark Jones
Damn, I wish I came with y'. All. Yeah, it was good.
David
It was. I was like, yesterday, we didn't smoke. And I was like, okay, but then you had it out today. And I was like, all right.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
David
Hell, yeah.
Clark Jones
So there's a theory that, you know how people, like, oh, man, AI ain't shit. Like, they still fucking up the fingers and stuff like that. Yeah. Well, the theory is that they're intentionally fucking up the fingers so people aren't alarmed. Have y' all discussed this before?
Langston Kerman
No.
Clark Jones
Like, the idea of, like, oh, well, people go see. Yeah, I could tell this, AI, look, you got five fingers. Them motherfuckers know how to not have five fingers 100%. But it's just to make people still go about their lives and still stay on the phone, because if AI was naked nailing it, people might be a little more scared.
David
Well, they are nailing it sometimes, though.
Clark Jones
Now they. They are. Sometimes some tricks get through.
David
I get tricked on a regular enough basis that I'm worried.
Langston Kerman
I get tricked.
Clark Jones
The video joints is really getting crazy, but, like, it is Always something like, see, AI ain't shit. I can tell.
Langston Kerman
I had a listener who I'm. I'm very grateful that they did this. I had a listener point out that I had reposted, like, a AI article. Damn, that. Like, it was just this article that made me laugh. It seemed funny. And I was like, oh, that's funny. And then he was like, hey, bro, that ain't even real, just FYI. And, like, I'm very grateful for that. But, like, it truly isn't me trying to be irresponsible. A lot of times I think my relationship with media is like all of our relationships with media, where it is, like, gut reactions to small pieces of information. And that gut reaction oftentimes makes us extremely vulnerable to being tricked in a way that, like, if you read every article and consumed every little detail, maybe you could parse out that these things aren't fully real. But I think to your point, they can't give us the best version off top. You have to give us the beta so that we get comfortable with it. And then. And we all go, ah, it ain't shit. It can't hurt.
Clark Jones
I can read a. I know what AI is with. Cause he got three fingers.
Langston Kerman
Only dum dums would fall for that.
David
Meanwhile, you're about to get deep. Faked into a crime here, bro.
Clark Jones
Easily.
Langston Kerman
Somebody the other day was posted, and it's been a meme going around of that dude, that dude who's in police, like, custody. And it's Michael Winslow. Steve Gutenberg, he's going crazy. Gurgaon, brother. He has made a new car sound.
Clark Jones
This car ain't even out yet.
David
That's how I know his AI dog.
Langston Kerman
He learned to do Tesla.
Clark Jones
His eyes are bugging like this now.
David
He's like, I'm back.
Clark Jones
I found it.
Langston Kerman
No, it's a picture of a dude in police custody who is, like, in theory. And he's got a whole fucking, like, plate in front of him.
Clark Jones
Oh, yeah, a hamburger.
Langston Kerman
And there's a pizza.
Clark Jones
I did see that.
David
I haven't seen that.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's just like, everybody's sending the meme around being like, you know, this nigga told.
Clark Jones
He told on.
Langston Kerman
You know, he told on everybody in the neighborhood, whatever. And then now it's. If you look at it, it's AI. It's not even real, bro.
David
And that's like dropping off the prompts, like, because you don't know the accounts even that it comes from. Oh, you know what I mean? So it's like, who is the first person to be like, take this seriously as a picture.
Langston Kerman
And even the picture, you would really have to be digging into it to notice that it's AI. One of the biggest clues is that he has a full large pizza, but then he has two pizza slices in front of him. The full large pizza is still, it has no slices, it has no slices removed. But if you're not playing fucking puzzles.
David
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
You're just looking at a picture and going like, well this looks real.
Clark Jones
And most people just want to get that joke off so they don't even care either. And then it's the second level of like, yeah, people parsing through. Oh, that's AI. AI is still not, it's still beta because look, you could tell, look at that right there. But we've already invested now we don't see AI as a threat yet anymore because you solved the big AI photo thing. But it's already, already around and we're already kind of comfortable with it.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, I, I've, I've been in arguments with a few people who have sort of said like, oh, I, well, I use it for my job. Like, it, it is good for research inside of like the work that I do. And I, I, I fully understand its potential as a resource and an aid. But I do think it's dangerous even for us to be fucking with it.
David
Yeah, I think so too. I, it, it makes me feel old fashioned. Yeah. You know what I mean? But you're just, just like this not to, this is our undoing for a lot of things. Even if you, for a lot like this, we're gonna, 20 years from now what this time period, we are gonna look back and be like, damn, I think we, we did that to, Even if we did that to ourselves.
Langston Kerman
Even if you're not of the position that like the technology is going to eventually wake up and kill me.
David
Right. No, I, even if that's not your biggest fear, it's gonna outsource my relevance and the need for me.
Langston Kerman
And you are empowering, you are empower of people to ascend so far from us that like we are never even going to be able to escape slavery.
David
Right?
Langston Kerman
Like we are going to make ourselves slaves if we don't at least go chill.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Well, the thing that freaked me out the other day was just like knowing for a fact if there are children in the future who study stuff, like, I'm going to be one of those generations. We're going to be one of those generations that people look at. Like, man, how the fuck they let that happen? Like. And there's nothing I can do about it. The 60s. I mean, everybody has something.
Langston Kerman
True.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
But I really feel like they're gonna judge us hard. Like, they're gonna come down on us hard for the shit that we let slide, man.
David
Yeah.
Clark Jones
They're also gonna wanna be one of those.
David
They're also gonna be like, you could just go to the store and buy bottles of water.
Clark Jones
That part too.
David
You guys were just. You just waking up, baby.
Clark Jones
Bathing in it all the time. We've had some good times.
David
We've had luxuries that they aren't gonna have.
Clark Jones
That's true. But they gonna judge us pretty tough. Like, I never thought I would be a part of a lie for, like, a man. I would have never been a slave type of commentary.
David
Well, that's. Cause everybody's getting dumber, though.
Langston Kerman
That's true.
Clark Jones
And louder at the same time.
David
Yeah. Just like, educate it is.
Clark Jones
This is really pissing you off?
David
I just. Sometimes.
Clark Jones
This is the maddest I've ever.
David
This always happens in here where we're. And then I just, like, sit and think about it and I'm like, everybody's not even. Everybody's stupid. Just like, dang, what's. Cause you gotta stay positive.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
There was an era where I think I found myself feeling like everybody's stupid. And I think I'm a little past that now. Where it's almost like we are all victims. Because, like. Like I said, I'm falling for some of the same things that I was calling people stupid for three years years ago, five years ago, whatever it is.
David
Well, those things just caught up to you. That's. Now you gotta think about it.
Langston Kerman
And that's what I'm saying is like, we're all just vulnerable to the fucking. To whatever can come down the pipeline and shit. It just sucks that you're choosing happiness. I'm choosing.
David
Okay.
Langston Kerman
I'm choosing peace. I think I'm choosing to focus on the things that I can control, which is so small.
Clark Jones
Oh, yeah.
Langston Kerman
That it almost would feel crazy to take on these larger problems because they are going to kill us regardless.
Clark Jones
Oh, man. Yeah. The evolution of the black male college graduate of, like, thinking you can fix everything.
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Clark Jones
One day you'll be that with age. Like, you know, our parents generation thought it was a physical thing, like I'll be Superman, but we just like intellectual. How I may not change the world, but I'll spark the brain that does. It's like I don't care about none of that anymore. I just want to Talk to people who.
David
I'm gonna be honest, I never thought that personally.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. But even There was never, like, a point in your life where you were like, I think I could be in the right sort of, like, rooms and relationships that would lead to positive sort of change in my world.
Clark Jones
I could see him thinking about how that never happened.
David
No, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think if there was really a time where I had put myself in that place.
Langston Kerman
And I don't mean it in an accuser's mind.
David
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm really thinking, like, I was really just trying to get right for a very long.
Langston Kerman
For sure.
Clark Jones
I understand that.
David
You know what I mean?
Clark Jones
Individually.
David
Yeah, yeah. Or just like, damn, I just want my shit to not be fucked up.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David
Like, how can I get my situation?
Langston Kerman
How can I not be on this couch?
David
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. So a long time it was like, man, if I could just figure out how to get. Get my shit to get me and my family or whatever in place. You know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
And I. I think to that point, that is all, in my opinion, the. The greatest danger of the AI wave, right, is that they are pushing us into a position as people where we have so little resources that we can't even think about world building.
David
Right?
Langston Kerman
And, like, changing our circumstances. We will become reliant on the technology for our. Our very existence. And in that way, we keep feeding a beast that ultimately we could have fought off, but they just took too much from us to be able to, like, really be able to do something about it.
David
But is there a breaking point of what you can take from people? That's what I wonder where.
Langston Kerman
It's like, I think they're gonna find out.
David
Does it get real French out here? Like, they got it. We don't. What's up? Like, how far does it. How far does it go? Cause, I mean, America seems to be propped up on this. Like, it's really the idea that people still feel like they could get it. Right.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
David
That's how they perpetuate this. But if you push people far enough down, I do think there comes a breaking point where it's like, not everybody's gonna be thinking they could get it.
Langston Kerman
Like they used to, but the French had swords.
David
They do. We got guns.
Langston Kerman
I'm saying we got a gang of guns. I'm saying what they got is better than a gun. They got lasers.
David
They got. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Clark Jones
You know what I mean?
Langston Kerman
They got Bombs, or. I'm saying they. The. The royal they that we are speaking of that threaten our lives.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Are playing a version of war games that the French couldn't even imagine, which is why they could get their heads cut off. The rulers of the.
David
Right. Because. Oh, yeah, it was a more even playing field.
Clark Jones
It was way more.
David
We could bum rush the castle.
Langston Kerman
They said square up. And they won the fight.
David
Yeah. Yeah. Because of numbers. But now it's not really based on numbers.
Langston Kerman
I don't think that we're in a position to be able to like, square up against the U.S. government.
David
Yeah. But I. I also don't know what happens if everybody decides to. If like, you can get enough people to decide.
Langston Kerman
And maybe that changes because it.
David
Because. Because then it becomes like, oh, now it come all comes out in the open. They're openly oppressing the people. You know what I mean? Now maybe outside aid comes in. Maybe it becomes like more of a conflict than it would have been. I don't really know though. Me neither.
Clark Jones
I'm not a front. Front line. Like, I'm more tactical intelligence anyway. So it's like, you don't want me.
Langston Kerman
In that tower over there.
Clark Jones
That's right. You mean like. Like aim, then shoot? Like, I would do that to defend myself, maybe, but I just don't think my set of skills will be helpful in whatever needs to be done, brother.
David
You're not talking to Rambo.
Langston Kerman
He trying to talk himself out of getting drafted.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
We weren't recruiting you.
Clark Jones
Hell yeah. I'm just. I'm saying why I can't like, y' all saying, like, this stuff that would need to happen and guns and lasers. I'm just like, man, I'm just gonna be like. I'm gonna just lay here and.
Langston Kerman
Well, that's why I think I'm finding peace. Is that like. I think when it comes down to it, they got a satellite in the sky that can blow my brains out from right up there now. You know what I mean?
David
Let me just take this trash out.
Langston Kerman
I'm just gonna take the trash out.
Clark Jones
I'm gonna just throw these plastic bags away.
Langston Kerman
I'm throw em away.
Clark Jones
That's. You still have power.
Langston Kerman
Suck it.
David
Let's go to a break.
Clark Jones
We gotta get a break.
David
Right on that. We'll be back with more, Clark.
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More.
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No.
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Look at your neighbor and say, he's a meat stretcher. He'll stretch your meat. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise him. Won't he do it all the time? We're back.
Langston Kerman
This was a meat stretcher episode, I would say. And. And that was a very apt button to press.
David
Thank you.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, now you. You're really on your shirt. Clark. We have a voicemail that we would like to listen to together. This is from one of our faithful listeners, and they'll tell you all about it.
Clark Jones
Boom.
Voicemail Caller
Hey, what's going on? Langston and David? David, this is the Vault calling out of Brooklyn. I've called twice before. You've clowned me twice before. So I'M gonna try to keep this in a way where you will not be able to clown me.
Langston Kerman
Okay?
Voicemail Caller
Anyway, I just finished listening to your latest episode, and I know we got discussed it a lot. We've discussed the Disney Afternoon block, and it's something I thought about for a very long time. Darkling Duck is father's. Father's knows best. Right? Like that old 60s TV show. And, like, 60s Batman tailspin. That's Moonlighting, right? Bonkers. Do y' all remember Bonkers? I do remember that's a spin off of who Framed Roger Rabbit. But that's like those cop shows back in the days. Disney Afternoon were, like, all cartoons, but they were based on TV shows from those times. Also, do y' all remember the slew of black tv, like, black cartoon shows that we used to watch as a kid? Like classic 3000 siege? What was that? CJ and Jamal? Was it C Band Jamal or whatever?
Langston Kerman
Yeah.
Voicemail Caller
I'm so high. I hate what I do. But yo, shout out, y'.
Clark Jones
All.
Voicemail Caller
But Dead ass. I was really sitting there thinking about those cartoons, and I'm like, they are always related to a weird TV show from back in the day. I know. I just jumped from topic to topic. That is so wild. I'm about to get clown so hard. But yo else been in particular is moving Moonlighting, Dead ass. And like, DuckTales is the one that gets me. DuckTales is the one where I really can't pinpoint what the TV show is related to. And then Gargoyles is also one of the outliers because Gargles is crazy. Gargles was.
Clark Jones
Wow.
Voicemail Caller
Gummy Bears, too. Gummy Bears is a weird outlier, but a couple of the other ones. And Goof Troopers, just black single father trying to raise his child to the best of his ability. And his dad. Oh, in the Goof Troop movie. Okay, was, was, was, was. Was Pete and Peg broken up? Because where's Peg at? Did they get a divorce? Remember the wife? Anyway, y' all go clown me, and then I'll just listen to the podcast on. Laugh at it later. Peace out, y'.
Clark Jones
All the best man.
David
Peg was fine. Shout out to Peg.
Langston Kerman
Shout out to Peg. And shout out to Devon from Brooklyn. You. You could have ended that voicemail a lot earlier, man.
Clark Jones
He is from the same neighborhood in Brooklyn as Jordan Rock.
Langston Kerman
For sure.
Clark Jones
I thought that was him playing the character. I'm like, why is Jordan acting like his name?
Langston Kerman
You didn't have to keep going as long as you did.
Clark Jones
It was a lot of.
David
It was a lot of cartoons. And I remember them.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, you just listening stuff. You remember.
David
Oh, yeah. See, Baron, I was big sea bear.
Langston Kerman
And Jamal, I like Seabear and Jamal. I did feel when asked about DuckTales for me, different strokes.
David
Oh, yeah. Because they were little poor kids coming into the rich kids room.
Langston Kerman
Coming into a rich man's house and experience rich people's stuff.
David
Yeah. Experience theirs. Tales of daring. Do bad and good luck tales.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.
Clark Jones
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Langston Kerman
Great song.
David
Oh. Oh, man.
Clark Jones
Like unforgettable. Okay. That's unforgettable. Dark wing is unforgettable.
David
Danger out still find you.
Langston Kerman
Yeah. Yeah.
David
That was. They were going crazy. Yeah.
Langston Kerman
It really went nuts. That was back when they really were investing in the theme songs. Yeah.
David
It was like there was money into it because Darkwing Duck was great. Great too. Yeah. It was like very.
Langston Kerman
That show let's let's get Dangerous.
David
I think that was actually the weather.
Clark Jones
Trouble you called dw. That's hard. That's a hard ass line that went.
Langston Kerman
Craig.
Clark Jones
Trouble you called dw. I wish my name was like David Washington. When there's trouble you call dw.
David
That's why that show was. That's so black. Right.
Langston Kerman
I think the theme song makes a big determinant in whether or not black people consume more of it.
David
Tailspin was a reggae song like Tailspin.
Langston Kerman
O y O. I think that's why black people fuck with the Golden Girls.
Clark Jones
Ooh. Because. Oh, yeah.
David
Yeah.
Langston Kerman
Theme song. Right away you're like, I'm willing to watch. And then you're like, oh, no, they're funniest.
Clark Jones
Shit.
Langston Kerman
This is great.
Clark Jones
But remember when the Internet revealed that the X Men song was just a Whitney Houston song?
Langston Kerman
I did remember.
Clark Jones
What'S. I'm your baby tonight from me. I'm your Wolverine night.
David Bore
Yeah.
Clark Jones
Or whatever they were saying. Melody.
Langston Kerman
I will say that this is all. If we can connect it back to Devon's question it to me just more speaks to the way that we are constantly trading media. We are exchanging things that you like with things that you might like in a different form.
David
Right.
Langston Kerman
So like, it's easier to be like, oh, you fuck with this kind of show. We'll do it in cartoon. And then we'll do. We'll do a theme song, like a song that you like. And we'll just give you things that you like to make you sort of feel familiar and close to it. And I'm not always mad at that.
David
I'm not mad at it. But it does you do need to create new things.
Langston Kerman
I agree.
Clark Jones
Is anything new?
David
I think that people have tried to make new things. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I think that mentality is kind of making us knocking us off our square a little bit where it's like, you do have to try to make new good stuff though, I think.
Clark Jones
I mean, it's just so easily. It's so easy to research anything now that we can't just throw certain. And everything has a way, you know.
David
Everything has influences and stuff like that. But I'm saying that need to move forward creatively.
Clark Jones
Yeah.
David
Necessary.
Langston Kerman
I agree with the need. And I do think that there's something nasty in putting this in the hands of like some bad motherfuckers.
David
Suits. Suits. Yeah, like non creative suits.
Langston Kerman
You didn't. You didn't want the best for me when you mimicked this other thing. You're just mimicking the other thing to take advantage of me. That's not nasty. But I do think that, like, there was an innocence of the 90s where like, people were just being like, yo, it would be fun if we did different strokes, but with ducks.
David
Right?
Langston Kerman
And then they did. And I. I'm grateful.
Clark Jones
That pitch meter.
Langston Kerman
Yeah, it's different strokes, but ducks.
Clark Jones
You. But you. Yeah. They didn't sell it till they mentioned something that already existed. What about that.
Langston Kerman
That episode where Arnold gets molested?
David
No, no, no.
Langston Kerman
We're not going to do that with the duck. No, no, no.
Clark Jones
The ducks don't wear pants anyways, so it's kind of weird.
Langston Kerman
It'd be too easy.
David
Oh, man.
Clark Jones
All right.
Langston Kerman
I think we did it. Yeah.
David
I think we did it.
Langston Kerman
Clark, this is great.
Clark Jones
I'm filled up.
Langston Kerman
Hell yeah.
Clark Jones
I'm sated.
Langston Kerman
You're filled to the brim. And that's all we ask. And could you tell the people where they can find you? What cool shit you got?
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Okay.
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David
At the same time we talk sometimes. It felt mean.
Clark Jones
I wasn't even being mean.
Langston Kerman
It felt.
David
It felt reductive.
David Bore
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Clark Jones
I felt unseen, felt unheard, unheard My goodness unweighed.
Langston Kerman
I was coming from a warm place.
Clark Jones
You have no warm place.
David
I know no warm place.
Langston Kerman
I said please. I said make these Big Macs be.
David
See, there it is.
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You didn't want me to be this way.
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Cool guy jokes 87 on Instagram. I currently have nothing to promote.
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I love the honesty of 2025.
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In this engaging and hilarious episode, comedians Langston Kerman and David Gborie are joined by fellow comedian Clark Jones for a wide-ranging discussion centered on one of the most entertainingly paranoid Black conspiracy theories: “Porn sites secretly take photos of users to blackmail you later.” Through their trademark blend of wit, honesty, and tangents, the trio unpacks everything from digital surveillance anxieties, AI mistrust, “gooning,” and childhood nostalgia, to the economics of plastic bag hoarding in Black households. The episode also features playful riffs on rap memory loss, cartoon theme songs, and the ever-present threat of smart technology.
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:05 | Patreon announcement & banter about Cornel West photo | | 06:44 | Aging & nostalgia: rap recall, white girls rapping | | 09:15 | Plastic bag hoarding in Black homes | | 20:41 | Main conspiracy: “Porn sites secretly snap photos…” | | 21:08 | Clark’s “O face” database theory | | 27:47 | Gooning, goon caves, post-nut clarity | | 56:20 | Techspot article: malware that snaps webcam during porn use | | 58:21 | “Anything with smart in it, you’re being watched.” | | 61:15 | ID/selfie requirements for porn sites, state-level laws | | 64:12 | Is “bad AI” a psy-op strategy? | | 68:07 | AI and media trust, accidental reposting of AI content | | 69:20 | Generational self-critique/"People will judge us for this…" | | 79:07 | Listener voicemail: Disney Afternoon, cartoons & Blackness | | 83:41 | Why Black audiences love certain theme songs |
The episode remains casual, irreverent, and heartfelt, with the trio riffing freely, making each other laugh, and shifting seamlessly between sharp social commentary and outright silliness. The hosts’ camaraderie and Clark’s dry, observational humor create a welcoming feel even as they swing from jokes to Six O'Clock News-level paranoia.
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“We just turn on each other in every comment.” – Clark (33:56)
“We are exchanging things that you like with things you might like in a different form.” – Langston (84:37)
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