Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me
Episode: "An Almost Halloween Special, Lily Allen and The Louvre"
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: October 31, 2025
Episode Overview
Vogue and Joanne deliver their trademark mix of playful honesty and unfiltered chat in a loosely Halloween-themed episode that covers everything from midlife crises and dog lookalikes to a deep-dive on Lily Allen’s headline-stealing breakup album and a jaw-dropping heist at the Louvre. Expect gossip commentary, self-deprecating humor, and memorable anecdotes – all with that special off-the-cuff energy these two bring.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Is This Really a Halloween Special? (00:24–01:04)
- The pair joke about the episode’s "Halloween Special" title, with Joanne quipping, "I think I am deceased. Calling this a Halloween special is a bit of a stretch."
- Light bickering and jokes about being on tour, family support for shows, and the challenges of timing live performances.
2. Dog Doppelgängers & The Afghan Hound Saga (01:45–03:13)
- Ongoing banter about Vogue’s past hairstyle resembling an Afghan Hound, linking it to a recent Outlander magazine cover.
- Joanne: "If you were a dog...it would be Afghani Houndy." (03:03)
- Vogue recounts spotting a real Afghan Hound in Chelsea and feeling a “deep similarity” but notes how much upkeep such dogs require.
3. Midlife Crisis Reflections & Therapy Antics (04:11–06:07)
- Vogue describes anxiety after drinking and efforts to set boundaries: "I've decided now that I will drink. But I'm only having a couple. That's my tipping point." (04:49)
- Both discuss the cycle of booking therapy sessions only to feel better by the appointment, but still attending after paying.
- Joanne: "I had a terrible habit of...when the clouds clear...you're back at the game." (05:37)
4. Parenting Ethics: Faking Competition Wins For Kids (06:11–07:13)
- Vogue confesses to faking a phone call to convince her daughter Gigi she’d won a coloring competition, including ordering the promised prize from Amazon:
- Joanne validates her: "It's Gigi. She has to win everything or it's gonna make your life really difficult." (07:13)
- The women muse about which awards they’d want to win; Vogue: "An Oscar. An Oscar!" (07:34)
5. The Lily Allen & David Harbour Drama – A Deep Dive (08:20–18:30)
Album as Therapy, Open Marriages, and Celebrity Realness
- Joanne obsessively breaks down Lily Allen’s new album, its tabloid fallout, and the complexities of the Allen-Harbour split.
- Joanne: "The Lily Allen drama rolls on. My God, the Lily Allen drama rolls on." (08:40)
- Fascination with Allen’s candid songwriting: "It is...a masterpiece in female revenge." (09:03)
- Open marriage theme:
- "She even says it herself. Trying to be a modern wife and just not being able to figure it out. Also, he broke the rules in an open marriage. Who the fuck opens their marriage? Oh, my God." (10:36)
- Vogue reflects: "You have to unlearn jealousy. How the does anyone unlearn jealousy?" (10:59)
Album Details, Pain, & Power
- They debate whether Allen’s album is a true “revenge” album, referencing specific songs about betrayal, dissatisfaction, and heartbreak.
- Joanne on sacrificing for love: "She basically sacrificed herself for mental health and her own happiness because she loved him." (16:26)
- Joanne gleefully recounts the “sex palace” incident from Allen’s lyrics: "100 Trojan condoms, lube, butt plugs. Yeah." (17:12)
- Playful speculation about Halloween costumes inspired by the scandal: "Halloween parties as David Harbour this year with a bag full of butt plugs and Trojan condoms. Mark my words." (17:24)
6. The Wild World of Celebrity Rebounds (18:30–24:58)
- Vogue presents a "listicle" of celebrity rebound relationships:
- Sophie Turner & Chris Martin, Gigi Hadid & Bradley Cooper, Jennifer Lopez, Taylor Swift, Pete Davidson ("He's literally like a pinball machine," 24:25)
- Joanne’s advice: "Rebound your tits off. Rebound. Ping, ping, ping...spin that vagina." (24:41)
7. The Louvre Heist Outrage (25:47–30:16)
- Nodding to viral news, they dissect the ease and swagger of a recent, real art heist at the Louvre.
- Joanne: "Three lads basically walked into the Louvre...robbed the crown jewels in seven minutes...They dressed as construction workers...on e-scooters. It's the most Gen ZX thing I've ever seen." (27:01)
- They fantasize about what happens to stolen art and jewelry: "Is there some new lotto winner sitting in our kitchen wearing Napoleon's crown? Just drink a Prosecco?" (28:13)
- Laughing at the lack of security: "I'd say I would have found it harder to rob Claire's Accessories than these lads did." (29:13)
8. China’s Crackdown on Influencer Free Speech (30:47–32:08)
- Vogue shares that China now requires degrees for influencers to discuss topics like law, medicine, or finance:
- "Not for long, my friend...Oh, no, in China, you now have to have a degree if you want to talk about something." (31:09)
- Joanne jokes about her own (lack of) qualifications for standup in China.
9. Halloween Plans & Parenting (33:43–37:41)
- Plans for trick-or-treating with kids, costume choices ("This year I'm just going as a full length dress vampire," 35:37), and thoughts on the practicality of modern parenting.
- Joanne teases Vogue’s rumored pregnancies, joking about “testing her urine” daily.
10. Self-Reflective Close and Missed Scary Stories (37:53–38:35)
- Episode closes with both hosts joking that they’d prepared ghost stories, but got sidetracked with the “David Harbour and Lily Allen” drama:
- Joanne: "What would I say? I am problematic. I am problematically obsessed with adultery. And I'm sorry." (38:22)
Memorable Quotes
- Joanne (08:40): "The Lily Allen drama rolls on. My God, the Lily Allen drama rolls on."
- Vogue (10:59): "You have to unlearn jealousy. How the does anyone unlearn jealousy?"
- Joanne (24:41): "Rebound your tits off. Rebound. Ping, ping, ping... spin that vagina."
- Joanne (27:01): "Three lads basically walked into the Louvre...on e-scooters. It's the most Gen ZX thing I've ever seen."
- Vogue (35:37): "This year I'm just going as a full length dress vampire. I'm taking the kids around."
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Halloween (non-)theme, tour updates: 00:24–01:13
- Afghan Hound resemblance & dog banter: 01:45–03:13
- Midlife crisis and therapy chatter: 04:11–06:07
- Faking kid wins, motherhood hacks: 06:11–07:13
- Lily Allen album + drama deep dive: 08:20–18:30
- Rebound relationships celebrity listicle: 18:30–24:58
- Louvre heist and art theft speculation: 25:47–30:16
- China influencer regulations: 30:47–32:08
- Halloween costumes, trick-or-treat parenting: 33:43–37:41
- End: Scary stories not told & pod sign-off: 37:53–38:35
Tone and Style
Conversational, irreverent, and deeply personal, with plenty of playful bickering and honest admissions about self-care, relationships, and the absurdities of modern life. The hosts' willingness to overshare and poke fun at each other (and themselves) makes these topics relatable even when the stories veer into the wildly tabloid or celebrity-centric.
In Summary
This episode is classic "My Therapist Ghosted Me": what begins as a supposed Halloween special becomes an uproarious ride through personal revelations, pop culture scandals (especially the Lily Allen–David Harbour breakup), and a very British-Irish perspective on everything from celebrity rebounds to museum security. It's packed with zingers, confessions, and the kind of half-serious advice only a best mate would give.
