Transcript

A (0:02)

This is a Global Player original podcast.

B (0:06)

Hello, and welcome to. My therapist ghosted me. Zooming in from two from the uk, one from a conference room in Ireland. Good morning.

C (0:14)

Good morning. This is. I love this. This is very. This morning. Good morning. Good morning. I'm zooming in from a conference room in Dublin.

B (0:24)

I have to be honest, I thought there was 98% chance of. Of this not happening today. Joe, what was your percentage?

D (0:33)

Look, hey, hey, we. We get it done when we can get it done.

C (0:36)

Was. Was I gonna be the floy fly in the ointment?

B (0:39)

Well, you've been even touring for the last three nights. And I was like, this is a bad idea for 10am on a Sunday, on a Monday for Joanne to record because she was working last night.

C (0:49)

I was. And. But, you know, it's hilarious. You were at the BAFTAs last night. And I can tell you now, had I been at the baftas, this would not be happening. But I love that I'm potentially the weakest link. Even though you're at the BAFTAs, because that's how responsible you are, I would be like, I'm taking the week off. If I've gone to the baftas, I might never come back on again.

B (1:08)

I think that you changed me as a person that night in December and.

C (1:13)

Oh, for God's sake.

D (1:15)

Yeah, you gotta leave that alone.

C (1:16)

I've gotta let it go.

B (1:17)

I can't. I can't. I can't let it go. I can't let it go.

C (1:21)

And handbooked you to the radiator.

B (1:23)

Yes, she did. I woke up nude in Joanne's bed, and it frightened me. But.

C (1:28)

But I. I knew I was like, vogue will be online sprightly with her lip gloss, with her lips glossing as usual. But no, but I. Yeah, I was gigging last night. Sorry, just before we start, can I just say I was having a little moment last night of kind of appreciation. I was having a moment of appreciation because I was going into the Olympia last night. So I have, like a chunk of show. I have nine shows in a row. This. This, like, kind of last week and this week, like, it's a heavy chunk.

Summary

My Therapist Ghosted Me

Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title: ANTM Doc, The BAFTAs & Punch The Monkey
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: February 27, 2026
Duration: Approx. 45 mins

Overview

This episode delivers classic MTGM energy as Vogue and Joanne dive into the viral America’s Next Top Model (ANTM) documentary, their reactions to the BAFTA awards, and the internet’s new obsession: a troubled Japanese monkey called Punch. Expect candid reflections on the toxic past of reality TV, tales from live shows and award ceremonies, and the duo’s irrepressible, affectionate banter as they skewer themselves, each other, and pop culture.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Updates & Gigs

Joanne’s Comedy Marathon: Joanne shares her experience of performing nine shows in a row at The Olympia and expresses gratitude for her lively Irish audiences.
- “I was going in last night thinking it might be quieter, Sunday crowd and all, but they were BANG up for it – I’m very lucky!” [01:53 - 02:33]
Weather and Spring Vibes: Vogue notices a break in the endless rain:
- “There was a distinct spring in everyone’s step, and I thought I could live here again... the rain had me ready to emigrate.” [03:12 - 03:43]

2. Rugby Matches & Social Scenes

Vogue attended the Ireland vs. England rugby match at Twickenham, sharing a luxury box with Chris O’Dowd and Emily Atack. The pair joke about their lack of involvement in the actual sport.
- Chris O’Dowd “heckling” English fans: “Stick to the fox hunting!” [05:39]
- On rugby vs. football fans: “In rugby there’s less violence... in football, people absolutely batter the shite out of each other if you’re on the wrong team.” [05:56 - 06:08]
They reminisce about brief flings with footballers, lamenting lackluster chemistry, then celebrate Joanne’s achievement of five sold-out 3Arena shows.
“My Therapist Ghosted Me sold five nights at the 3Arena, that’s a pretty big deal, like!” [10:00]

3. ANTM Documentary & Reality TV Reflection

The main segment breaks down the explosive America’s Next Top Model docuseries—the shocking behind-the-scenes practices, Tyra Banks' role, and the culture of early 2000s reality TV.
- Joanne sets the historical context:
  “The early noughties for reality TV was the most toxic time in the history of reality TV, in the history of the world—bar guillotines.” [14:03]
Infamous Incidents & Criticism of the Show:
- Shandy's Story – A contestant is exploited while blackout drunk, with the show filming her distress and aftermath rather than intervening.
  - “She was quite clearly past the point of consenting... and instead of stopping this, they just allowed it to happen.” [16:44; [17:32]]
- Body Image & Diversity – The show enforces damaging standards, e.g., telling women to close tooth gaps or lose weight, and hypocrisy around diversity.
  - “They ripped four of her teeth out! And then recreated fashion shoots to trigger contestants—one woman had to pose with a gun after her mum was shot.” [18:43]
- Blackface & Race-Swapping Shoots – The hosts express horror over these past challenges, and Tyra’s stubborn lack of remorse.
  - “She got white models to do blackface… thought she was being diverse. To say she missed the mark—understatement!” [19:30]
  - “She’s sticking to her guns. There’s some things she regrets, but she’s not really apologizing.” [18:10; 21:08]
Industry Reflection – Both hosts recall their own experiences with the modelling and entertainment industries’ body standards and male-dominated environments.
- “I’ve been told to lose weight loads of times. Even in Ireland, I was too big for Ireland!” (Vogue) [23:40]
- On Editing & Blame – They discuss the power of TV editing and Tyra’s tendency to deflect and spin.
  - “Instead of going, ‘I lost my way, sorry,’ she’s opening an ice cream business and putting out another series.” [24:01]

4. Celebrity Encounters & Award Shows

BAFTAs & “Imposter Syndrome”:
- Vogue recounts awkward glam moments at the Peninsula, rubbing shoulders at the BAFTAs (Leonardo DiCaprio inches away without her noticing).
  - “He touched my arm and I didn’t even know. Raging! He’d look at me and think: corpse. Because I’m 40.” [31:46 - 32:11]
- General consensus: attending awards shows is glamorous but exhausting—Joanne prefers to skip the fuss.
- Joanne marvels at Sophie Willan’s four BAFTAs lying next to her fireplace:
  - “If I ever win a BAFTA, it’s BAFTA first, baby second.” [34:01]

5. Pop Culture & New Obsessions

Punch the Monkey:
- The tragic tale of a baby monkey in a Japanese zoo, rejected by his mother and bullied by other monkeys, has everyone emotionally invested.
  - “There’s something about animals… I watched a documentary about a woman in a bin and it didn’t move me anything like watching a monkey get punched in a zoo.” (Joanne) [38:56]
- They joke about the drama and internet fervor (“Don’t show us this stuff, we can’t cope!”) [40:22].
Danika Mason's Boozy Broadcast
- Shout-out to the Australian sports journalist who delivered a live report after “one drink (or six).”
  - “From one lush to another, that’s not a one-drink situation, honey!” [42:24]
- Vogue admits to her own “pulling a Danika” after a Dancing with the Stars party.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Joanne on the Toxicity of 2000s TV:

“The early noughties for reality TV was the most toxic time in the history of reality tv, in the history of the world—bar guillotines.” [14:03]
On Shandy’s treatment in ANTM:

“She was in a blackout, and had she been in her right mind, it’s not something she would have chosen to do. And the producers just allowed it to happen.” (Vogue) [16:44]
Joanne on past body image demands:

“The business is notoriously fat-phobic.” [24:01]
On Tyra Banks' response:

“She’s sticking to her guns… But it’s more, ‘I’m sorry you got upset’ than ‘I’m sorry I did it’.” (Joanne) [21:10; 24:51]
On Punch the Monkey:

“There’s something about animals. I watched a documentary about a woman in a bin, and it didn’t move me anything like watching a monkey get punched in a zoo.” (Joanne) [38:56]
BAFTAs Imposter Syndrome:

“He’d look at me and think: corpse. Because I’m 40.” (Vogue on Leonardo DiCaprio) [32:11]
Joanne on encountering a dream celeb:

“If I ever win a BAFTA, it’s BAFTA first, baby second.” [34:01]
On embracing life:

“Life isn’t short; we just waste so much of it.” (Joanne, quoting an article) [30:13]

Important Timestamps

01:53 – Joanne reflects on her live comedy shows and the energy of her audience
05:39 – Behind-the-scenes at the rugby match; Chris O’Dowd’s commentary
09:44 – Joanne’s 3Arena sell-out announcement
13:17 – Introduction to the ANTM documentary discussion
15:08–17:32 – The Shandy incident breakdown
19:30 – The problematic “race-swap” photo shoots on ANTM
24:01 – Industry standards and fat-phobia
29:21 – Vogue’s BAFTA prep and imposter syndrome at awards shows
38:56 – Punch the Monkey saga & animal empathy
42:24 – Danika Mason’s “one drink” debacle

Conclusion

This episode is a rollercoaster through Irish pop culture, brutal honesty, and the uncanny ability to find comedy in almost any situation. Vogue and Joanne roast the past—and themselves—with little filter; their take on the ANTM documentary is sharp, insightful, and darkly funny, while tales from glamorous (and not-so-glamorous) celebrity encounters offer classic self-deprecating charm. Punch the Monkey and tipsy presenters round off a show that proves no trend or trauma is safe from their wit—or their warmth.

ANTM Doc, The BAFTAs & Punch The Monkey