ANTM Doc, The BAFTAs & Punch The Monkey

Summary

My Therapist Ghosted Me

Podcast Episode Summary

• Episode Title: ANTM Doc, The BAFTAs & Punch The Monkey
• Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
• Date: February 27, 2026
• Duration: Approx. 45 mins

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Overview

This episode delivers classic MTGM energy as Vogue and Joanne dive into the viral America’s Next Top Model (ANTM) documentary, their reactions to the BAFTA awards, and the internet’s new obsession: a troubled Japanese monkey called Punch. Expect candid reflections on the toxic past of reality TV, tales from live shows and award ceremonies, and the duo’s irrepressible, affectionate banter as they skewer themselves, each other, and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Updates & Gigs

• Joanne’s Comedy Marathon: Joanne shares her experience of performing nine shows in a row at The Olympia and expresses gratitude for her lively Irish audiences.

  • “I was going in last night thinking it might be quieter, Sunday crowd and all, but they were BANG up for it – I’m very lucky!” [01:53 - 02:33]

• Weather and Spring Vibes: Vogue notices a break in the endless rain:

  • “There was a distinct spring in everyone’s step, and I thought I could live here again... the rain had me ready to emigrate.” [03:12 - 03:43]

2. Rugby Matches & Social Scenes

• Vogue attended the Ireland vs. England rugby match at Twickenham, sharing a luxury box with Chris O’Dowd and Emily Atack. The pair joke about their lack of involvement in the actual sport.

  • Chris O’Dowd “heckling” English fans: “Stick to the fox hunting!” [05:39]
  • On rugby vs. football fans: “In rugby there’s less violence... in football, people absolutely batter the shite out of each other if you’re on the wrong team.” [05:56 - 06:08]

• They reminisce about brief flings with footballers, lamenting lackluster chemistry, then celebrate Joanne’s achievement of five sold-out 3Arena shows.

• “My Therapist Ghosted Me sold five nights at the 3Arena, that’s a pretty big deal, like!” [10:00]

3. ANTM Documentary & Reality TV Reflection

• The main segment breaks down the explosive America’s Next Top Model docuseries—the shocking behind-the-scenes practices, Tyra Banks' role, and the culture of early 2000s reality TV.

  • Joanne sets the historical context:
    “The early noughties for reality TV was the most toxic time in the history of reality TV, in the history of the world—bar guillotines.” [14:03]

• Infamous Incidents & Criticism of the Show:

  • Shandy's Story – A contestant is exploited while blackout drunk, with the show filming her distress and aftermath rather than intervening.

    • “She was quite clearly past the point of consenting... and instead of stopping this, they just allowed it to happen.” [16:44; [17:32]]

  • Body Image & Diversity – The show enforces damaging standards, e.g., telling women to close tooth gaps or lose weight, and hypocrisy around diversity.

    • “They ripped four of her teeth out! And then recreated fashion shoots to trigger contestants—one woman had to pose with a gun after her mum was shot.” [18:43]

  • Blackface & Race-Swapping Shoots – The hosts express horror over these past challenges, and Tyra’s stubborn lack of remorse.

    • “She got white models to do blackface… thought she was being diverse. To say she missed the mark—understatement!” [19:30]
    • “She’s sticking to her guns. There’s some things she regrets, but she’s not really apologizing.” [18:10; 21:08]

• Industry Reflection – Both hosts recall their own experiences with the modelling and entertainment industries’ body standards and male-dominated environments.

  • “I’ve been told to lose weight loads of times. Even in Ireland, I was too big for Ireland!” (Vogue) [23:40]

  • On Editing & Blame – They discuss the power of TV editing and Tyra’s tendency to deflect and spin.

    • “Instead of going, ‘I lost my way, sorry,’ she’s opening an ice cream business and putting out another series.” [24:01]

4. Celebrity Encounters & Award Shows

• BAFTAs & “Imposter Syndrome”:

  • Vogue recounts awkward glam moments at the Peninsula, rubbing shoulders at the BAFTAs (Leonardo DiCaprio inches away without her noticing).

    • “He touched my arm and I didn’t even know. Raging! He’d look at me and think: corpse. Because I’m 40.” [31:46 - 32:11]

  • General consensus: attending awards shows is glamorous but exhausting—Joanne prefers to skip the fuss.

  • Joanne marvels at Sophie Willan’s four BAFTAs lying next to her fireplace:

    • “If I ever win a BAFTA, it’s BAFTA first, baby second.” [34:01]

5. Pop Culture & New Obsessions

• Punch the Monkey:

  • The tragic tale of a baby monkey in a Japanese zoo, rejected by his mother and bullied by other monkeys, has everyone emotionally invested.
    • “There’s something about animals… I watched a documentary about a woman in a bin and it didn’t move me anything like watching a monkey get punched in a zoo.” (Joanne) [38:56]
  • They joke about the drama and internet fervor (“Don’t show us this stuff, we can’t cope!”) [40:22].

• Danika Mason's Boozy Broadcast

  • Shout-out to the Australian sports journalist who delivered a live report after “one drink (or six).”

    • “From one lush to another, that’s not a one-drink situation, honey!” [42:24]

  • Vogue admits to her own “pulling a Danika” after a Dancing with the Stars party.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joanne on the Toxicity of 2000s TV:

  “The early noughties for reality TV was the most toxic time in the history of reality tv, in the history of the world—bar guillotines.” [14:03]

• On Shandy’s treatment in ANTM:

  “She was in a blackout, and had she been in her right mind, it’s not something she would have chosen to do. And the producers just allowed it to happen.” (Vogue) [16:44]

• Joanne on past body image demands:

  “The business is notoriously fat-phobic.” [24:01]

• On Tyra Banks' response:

  “She’s sticking to her guns… But it’s more, ‘I’m sorry you got upset’ than ‘I’m sorry I did it’.” (Joanne) [21:10; 24:51]

• On Punch the Monkey:

  “There’s something about animals. I watched a documentary about a woman in a bin, and it didn’t move me anything like watching a monkey get punched in a zoo.” (Joanne) [38:56]

• BAFTAs Imposter Syndrome:

  “He’d look at me and think: corpse. Because I’m 40.” (Vogue on Leonardo DiCaprio) [32:11]

• Joanne on encountering a dream celeb:

  “If I ever win a BAFTA, it’s BAFTA first, baby second.” [34:01]

• On embracing life:

  “Life isn’t short; we just waste so much of it.” (Joanne, quoting an article) [30:13]

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Important Timestamps

• 01:53 – Joanne reflects on her live comedy shows and the energy of her audience
• 05:39 – Behind-the-scenes at the rugby match; Chris O’Dowd’s commentary
• 09:44 – Joanne’s 3Arena sell-out announcement
• 13:17 – Introduction to the ANTM documentary discussion
• 15:08–17:32 – The Shandy incident breakdown
• 19:30 – The problematic “race-swap” photo shoots on ANTM
• 24:01 – Industry standards and fat-phobia
• 29:21 – Vogue’s BAFTA prep and imposter syndrome at awards shows
• 38:56 – Punch the Monkey saga & animal empathy
• 42:24 – Danika Mason’s “one drink” debacle

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Conclusion

This episode is a rollercoaster through Irish pop culture, brutal honesty, and the uncanny ability to find comedy in almost any situation. Vogue and Joanne roast the past—and themselves—with little filter; their take on the ANTM documentary is sharp, insightful, and darkly funny, while tales from glamorous (and not-so-glamorous) celebrity encounters offer classic self-deprecating charm. Punch the Monkey and tipsy presenters round off a show that proves no trend or trauma is safe from their wit—or their warmth.

Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[B]

Hello, and welcome to. My therapist ghosted me. Zooming in from two from the uk, one from a conference room in Ireland. Good morning.

[C]

Good morning. This is. I love this. This is very. This morning. Good morning. Good morning. I'm zooming in from a conference room in Dublin.

[B]

I have to be honest, I thought there was 98% chance of. Of this not happening today. Joe, what was your percentage?

[D]

Look, hey, hey, we. We get it done when we can get it done.

[C]

Was. Was I gonna be the floy fly in the ointment?

[B]

Well, you've been even touring for the last three nights. And I was like, this is a bad idea for 10am on a Sunday, on a Monday for Joanne to record because she was working last night.

[C]

I was. And. But, you know, it's hilarious. You were at the BAFTAs last night. And I can tell you now, had I been at the baftas, this would not be happening. But I love that I'm potentially the weakest link. Even though you're at the BAFTAs, because that's how responsible you are, I would be like, I'm taking the week off. If I've gone to the baftas, I might never come back on again.

[B]

I think that you changed me as a person that night in December and.

[C]

Oh, for God's sake.

[D]

Yeah, you gotta leave that alone.

[C]

I've gotta let it go.

[B]

I can't. I can't. I can't let it go. I can't let it go.

[C]

And handbooked you to the radiator.

[B]

Yes, she did. I woke up nude in Joanne's bed, and it frightened me. But.

[C]

But I. I knew I was like, vogue will be online sprightly with her lip gloss, with her lips glossing as usual. But no, but I. Yeah, I was gigging last night. Sorry, just before we start, can I just say I was having a little moment last night of kind of appreciation. I was having a moment of appreciation because I was going into the Olympia last night. So I have, like a chunk of show. I have nine shows in a row. This. This, like, kind of last week and this week, like, it's a heavy chunk.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I was going in last night, obviously, Sunday evening, and I was kind of trying to recalibrate a little bit my energy levels for a Sunday evening. Aud, you know, Sunday evening, they can tend to be a little quieter, a little more reserved. They're not necessarily. They've worked. Exactly. They've worked in the morning. They're not necessarily on a bender. And so I was kind of trying to not rally myself because I can usually I'm pretty good at that. But I was expecting a quieter room and I went out bang lit to the tit, not drunk, but just up for it. And I was like, I am a very lucky woman. These women make my, make my job very easy. They're just always up for it.

[B]

I. But you know what? It's a fun, nice night out. I really like. I don't know if it's since I've become older or whatever. I don't want to go to clubs, I want to go and see amazing shows. I want to go and see comedians and I want to go out and enjoy myself. And that's what you do. You make people just go out and have fun and it's. You don't have to get up. Like, you don't, you don't.

[C]

I appreciate the energy they bring is what I'm saying. And I feel very lucky that they bring us. And I, and I thank them. Now today, let's see how tonight goes.

[B]

Oh, do you have one tonight?

[C]

Yeah, I'm through the whole week.

[B]

Well, come here.

[C]

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

[B]

I don't know if you've been outside today, but there is a distinct turn in the weather. And I mean, when I say on the way to school today, I know it's coming back after midterm, so everyone's like get the into school, booting them up the road and all the parents have smiles on their faces because the kids are going back to school. But there was a distinct spring and everyone stepped and it just, it feels slightly warmer. And I looked outside and I thought I could live here. Whereas the last month I've been like, I can't live here, I can't stay living here.

[C]

Do you mean in the uk?

[B]

Just in the UK and Ireland. The rain, yeah. Has just been, it's been. I know that people get seasonal affective disorder, but like it has been so relentless and not to go on about the weather, but it's rained every single day this year and like that really affects your mood. And when you go out and it's kind of like it's not cold, it's not raining. It's such a nice change.

[C]

It's a stretch.

[B]

So I went to the Ireland England game on the match I heard we won. We absolutely annihilated them. Did we annihilated. And I, and I am one person. I even if because I'm not on the team, so I shouldn't care as much as I do. But like if we had lost.

[C]

Since when are you not on the team?

[B]

I'm actually a hooker on the team.

[C]

Did she get fired?

[B]

Yeah. No. I was on the sidelines this weekend. They said, you look a bit wrecked, you can have the day off. But I went. It was on in Twickenham. And I always think it's a really fun because there's a really good, like, banter between the Irish and the English because we have that, like, rivalry anyway as it is going quite, quite some time.

[C]

I, like you're calling it banter. That's very generous.

[B]

But it is what I will say at the match, it's banter because I was there and like, we were. We were sitting and in front of us was full of English fans. And so there was a lot. There was a few Irish, but not loads where I was. And. And it was just funny listening to all of us. Like the screams when. When Ireland score a try and then the screams when England got the odd one. And we were like, guys, come on. We had to give you something. We couldn't let you go out. Nothing. But in my box was Chris o'. Dowd. You know, Donna Vorter. Chris o' Dowd is the funniest. I didn't know he was as funny as he was. He was just like. The stuff that he was screaming when they were doing, he's like, stick to the fox hunting.

[C]

And he just was just trolling them, heckling them.

[B]

Stuff he was coming out with was so good.

[C]

I'm a fan of Chris. I like them.

[B]

Do they.

[C]

Do they stick all the fans together? Is it not like the football where they kind of. There's one team on one side and another team on the other.

[B]

Are.

[C]

They're all mashed up, are they?

[B]

We're kind of. Yeah. In rugby because there's less. I think there's less violence. Like in football. People absolutely batter the shite out of each other if you're on the wrong team and they don't like each other. Like, you've seen all those movies and stuff about it.

[C]

Yeah. So the football matches are a little spicier, so they keep the lads separate. And the women, of course, it's a really fun day.

[B]

But I was there and we were in a box and Emily Atak was there. Jody Kidd, who's really good crack. You were invited, by the way.

[C]

Was I?

[B]

You were invited to the rugby because two people said to me that I heard on the pod that Joanne said she wasn't invited, she was invited. We. We invited her ourselves. Who did? Well, Two sets of people invited you, but it went through Rick, so you'll have to pick it up with him.

[C]

I was in Dublin. He would have known I was in Dublin.

[B]

Yeah. So you couldn't go, but you. But it's nice to know that you were invited and you were top of the list.

[C]

It is nice to know I was invited. Yeah. Thank you. That actually does mean a lot.

[B]

So I was down. I was down. We got to do a pitch walk and everything because we were there with a brand and we went and did the pitch walk and then ITV pulled me aside and they were like, vogue, Vogue. Okay. Couple of rugby questions. I was like. And then they were like, Ronan o' Gara or Johnny Saxton? I was like, ronan o'? Gara. And they were like, really? Why? I was like, oh, do you not. Do you mean who's, who's better looking? And they were like, no, no. Who's to be like, shock, Mari, kill. Yeah, who's the better player? I was like, oh, buying murder. That's just, that's just it. Like, like on the pitch, you can't see them all. So, like we're in and out, going, getting the, the little booklet to see who's who because Jesus, they're massive.

[C]

I wouldn't, I would have been like Roy Keane, Ronan Keating. I wouldn't have had a clue.

[B]

They are on the team. They are on the team.

[C]

Yeah. I'm like, whatever, whoever. I do. No, I, I have to say, I think, do I like rugby? I don't know. I think if I to choose team watching rugby or football, and I would choose neither, to be honest. I find them a little. They drag. I'd have to take a lot of Ritalin, but I would probably go football.

[B]

I liked the vibe of a rugby match. I liked it. They had like really nice food and everything there.

[C]

Yeah, I'm Southside Dublin. I should really be choosing rugby, but I think I'd go football. I prefer the, I prefer the, the men involved, if that's the diplomatic way of saying it. I find rugby, man, a little problematic at times.

[B]

Well, I, I, Well, I mean.

[C]

And I'm not into those broccoli ears.

[B]

Football footballers are kind of problematic as well at times, actually.

[C]

Yeah, you're so right. I can't believe I just chose. Yeah, they're both. They're all toxic bricks, aren't they?

[B]

The only. If we're going on looks and looks alone, I would say probably the footballers are slightly better looking species. But like, I, I'm terrible. I'm like who's the better looking team?

[C]

Sorry, you've just reminded me I hooked. I hooked up with a footballer once.

[B]

Did. Oh, me too. Was it the same one? Oh, God, no. I know who yours was. Yeah, I forgot.

[C]

They were not the same. They're not the same person. Thank God. We share a lot, but not that much.

[B]

Yeah, we would share that given half the chance.

[C]

And I wouldn't say he was the best behaved person. Nice guy, but probably a little, you know, footbally.

[B]

My. Yeah, my guy wasn't as footbally as your guy, but had been footbally in the past, but I think had turned a corner. Yeah. And was less footbally, but he was actually really sound. But there was nothing. We didn't click.

[C]

Yeah, we didn't. Me and my footballer didn't really click either. Well, I mean, obviously we did in the moment and then we unclicked and moved on for the last.

[B]

Clicked for a minute. It was like you put Lego together, you're like, oh, wait, that doesn't fit.

[C]

Yeah, it fits for now, but in the stark light of day, there's no more fitting. Disconnect, abort mission, go home.

[B]

Sorry. Joanne McNally. If anyone would like to go and see Joanne McNally in the 3 Arena in December, tough luck. She sold out the 3 Arena in December. December 12th is gone. We can't go see her. We can't sell those tickets anymore.

[C]

But you know, what's gas, right? So Vogue being very sound. She was like, oh, my God, like, I can't believe we sold it three. Blah, blah. And then I was like, folk, we sold out five. Isn't that mental? And I'm not a big one for sentimentality or taking stock in any way. It's actually kind of a flaw of mine. I just kind of scurry on and move on to the next thing. But I was like, it's quite a. My therapist goes to me, sold like five nights in the 3Arena. That's. That's a pretty big deal.

[B]

You see, I sit with that a lot because it's in my toilet at home. I frequent that area quite often. So I have. I put up. Yeah, I put up all the posters because, like, it's like, that is like. I honestly. I might put it on my headstone.

[C]

It's quite easy on my own. I managed one together. We did five.

[B]

Well, it's a fantastic achievement and I think that you should be very proud. And a female comedian headlining the 3Arena. More of that, please. Well done.

[C]

Yeah, epic. Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you. So much. But like I say, I will be

[B]

there but I'm not buying a ticket because there are none left to buy because I was planning on buying loads but now that there's none left to buy, I'm going to have to ask you for them.

[C]

You were going to buy loads, were you?

[B]

I was actually going to buy loads. Like you wouldn't believe how many I was going to buy. Up to 50.

[C]

Well, I bought a. A tube of bear by Vogue yesterday and like I, as always, I'm deeply resentful.

[B]

That's your I don't want.

[C]

I have a phone number to your finances at all.

[B]

You have a phone number on your phone and all you have to do is send a text. But you forget I can't you any more than that.

[C]

A 247 tan hotline. My God. Like I, I especially because it's been such a long winter. I am translucent at this stage. I mean it's. I can see my pancreas through my own skin.

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[C]

Gotta talk about the elephant in the room. Vogue, the talk of the town, the big story. As you know, we take the heavy stories. America's Next Top Model three part documentary series about the TV show that started in 2003, invented and hosted by Tyra Banks and the chaos and toxicity toxicity of the show. Have you watched it?

[B]

I watched it the day it came out and I finished it by the following day.

[C]

It is strap it to my veins

[B]

insane viewing now I. But I had like in a way I kind of, I feel like a hypocrite by being so shocked and appalled by a lot of the things I'm saying because we did used to watch it and we loved it and the landscape was different back then but some of the things are just so wildly out there. I have no idea how they got away with us.

[C]

Joe. Like firstly. So to break it down. Joe. I'll explain it to Joe, because that's your kind of our.

[B]

You haven't seen it, Joe. Right.

[D]

I have watched it secondhand whilst I was working over the shoulder of my wife who was watching it.

[C]

So the early noughties for reality TV was the most toxic time, I'd say, in the history of reality tv, in the history of the world. BAR GUILLOTINES and this was America's Next Top Model. Tyra Banks wanted to kind of, kind of show the behind the scenes. She also wants to kind of have a more diverse modeling plane and stuff, which I think she did in fairness achieve. I think she did do a lot for diversity. That would be my, my take on it from what I've read. But at the end of the day it was a reality TV show. So she was really going in and like causing chaos in these girls lives and she was like taking a woman from Walgreens and turning her into a Runway model. And this was what the dream was going to be. And they went off for like, I think there was like 25 series or 24 series.

[B]

Yeah, it was a lot of cycles

[C]

as the series went on. Obviously the way it is all, it's like porn. It gets progressive. Starts out with a bit of missionary. Next thing it's a woman, a donkey and a lift. You don't know what's going on. And this is the same. The couple of things that were like shocking looking back. But like you say at the time you were like, it is what it is.

[B]

I think that that was the worst one was what happened to that girl Shandy. She was 19 at the time. So. She was, she was 19 at the time. And they had done a shoot with all these male models and then the male models invited back to the apartment and they were going to have wine together. And so they all started having wine and they're in the jacuzzi together. And she said that she hadn't really ever drank that much before. She was from a really small town, quite innocent really.

[C]

She was like 19 going on 15. She kind of said that herself. But she was tipped to win it. She was the. She was the perfect rags to riches story. As in she was. She had the. She was so. Is gangly. Can you say gangly? She looks like a supermodel of the time. She really did.

[B]

Yeah, she did. And she was like, she just lived this like really quiet life. She was like a little bit like kind of Geeky in her own way, but like beautiful looking. And she was working in Walgreens and then they kind of scooped her up and they gave her this gorgeous blonde hair and like she was doing really well. Her shots were incredible. Anyway, so the guys are coming over, they're all drinking booze. She's 19, she's never really drank that much, so she's 19, so she shouldn't be drinking either in America anyway. And. But I think that they were in Europe at the time, so you can imagine she hadn't drank that much. And anyway, she said she hadn't eaten and she got really, really pissed. And she had a boyfriend at the time and starts kissing this fella in the Jacuzzi and think one thing leads to the next and they're in the shower together. And there was a rule on the show that if you were in the bathroom on your own, they couldn't film it. But because she was in the bathroom with this man in the shower, basically getting it on, they were filming it, but like she was quite clearly like paralytically drunk and then they were filming her in the bed with him and

[C]

like she was past the point of consenting.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you know what I mean? She was in a blackout, basically.

[B]

Yeah, she was in a blackout. And had she been in her right mind, it's not something she would have chosen to do. And the producers, instead of stopping this, and this is all people, older people, cameraman, everything like that, instead of stopping this, they just allowed it to happen. And basically she, she, the whole thing happened and then the next, not even the next day, I think once she sobered up, she was really upset. Balling horn. They wouldn't give her a phone to call her boyfriend. She was like distraught. She couldn't believe what had happened. Humiliated, like all those kind of things. And then, and then eventually she said she was going to leave. So they're like, oh, okay, fine, you have your phone. So they film her bringing the boyfriend and she's literally on the ground crying in a feal position and they're filming it and the guys at the end were like, sorry we had to film that. But like, just no care for her at all.

[C]

They filmed her ring in the ring in the model and been like, have you, are you. Did you use protection and all? Like, they filmed everything. So pretty. Ty Banks was never supposed to be in the documentary at all. Apparently it was supposed to be Ms. J. Alexander's documentary about their life post stroke and their kind of part in America's Next Top Model. And then she got wind of it being involved and she was like, sorry, she got wind and was like, I need to be involved.

[B]

But even with that thing with that girl, she literally sat there and she's like, oh, I didn't get involved in the production side of things. It's like, it's your show. You absolutely were involved. And I just. The thing about it was, I understand the landscape back then was different, but she's so unremorseful in this.

[C]

She is grim. Like, she's sticking to her guns. She's sticking to her guns. There's some things that she does say she regrets. She regrets going mad at Danny. Remember, she's like, we were ready for you. But apparently she had loads of other shit that they cut from that. But she said, and your one, Danny, is in the documentary. She's like the fiercest one, because she's like, I'm taking none of this. She forced Danny to close up a gap in her teeth, which Donnie didn't want to do, and to this day regrets it. And then two series later, Tyra actually extended someone else's gap in their teeth. Like, you know, all this stuff, like, they were all kind of, you know, treated very badly.

[B]

Like, four of those. This girl, they ripped out four of her teeth.

[C]

Joanie. And she says to this day, like, she has a kind of an overbite and stuff. And then there was another girl that they. They would also recreate fashion shoots to trigger them. So, like, one woman, one of the young women, had to do a fashion shoot with a gun. She got shocked because they knew her mother had been shot. They were trying to trick. I listen, it's dark.

[B]

Sorry. Did you see the shoot where they were recreating, like, eating disorders and they had a girl, the model, sitting on the toilet with sick on her mate.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Looking like she'd just been vomiting. It was like, how the idea. But I don't remember those ones. I never. I didn't watch it like that full on. I don't remember seeing that. I remember seeing the homeless shoot where they dressed up as homeless people and

[C]

used actual homeless people in the shoot. And one of the models was. Had been homeless. I mean, but the bit where I actually, like, pulled the COVID over my eyes in shock was when she got white models to do blackface and black models to do white face. I'm pretty sure. Well, she certainly got. She was certainly getting black models to be painted as Korean women and white models to be painted as black models. And it was. She thought she was trying to show this kind of diversity is all colors and shades are beautiful, that kind of thing. But I mean to say, she missed the mark. And one of the J's was like, I do not want to be involved in this shoot.

[B]

He was saying about the race swap shoot. He was like, I just don't want to be involved in this. But you were involved in it, and then you were involved in the next one when they did another one. So they did one already on, and then they did another one, and he was still involved in it. So he can sit there now and say, I just never wanted to be involved in any of that. But, like, you did, if you really didn't want to be involved at the time, you could have pulled yourself out of it.

[C]

Well, it was kind of his job. Like, he did say. He was like, tyra said to me, trust me, I will sort this all out. Just go in and do your job, and I will fix it all in kind of the interviews at the end and the judging at the end, and I will. I will look after it all. And I think she genuinely thought she was being a maverick and kind of trailblazing through race issues in the modeling world. And look, obviously, as two white women, it's not really our place to speak on race in the modeling world. But it did seem. I was literally like, as this. It was so awkward to watch. It was so awkward. But two things. One, why is she wearing a jacket in the interview? She looks like she's on the run. The costume is bizarre.

[B]

Two, who, Tyra? Yeah.

[C]

That camel coat she's wearing. Utterly bizarre choice. Anyway, that's the least of our worries. But it's the. She's kind of sticking to her gun. She's saying, you wanted it. It's your fault. You're the reason we kept pushing the Gap thing. She said she's apologized to Danny, but she was told that that was just the way it was going to go. Danny's like, bullshit. You know, you used me. And then. And she's like, look, call me on my. That's fine. But you just remember, you're gonna get caught in your shit too, one day. And I hope that you deal with it with the same dignity as I've dealt with it. And then she's like, I want an ice cream business now. And then, at the very end

[B]

of

[C]

nowhere, she's like, well, wait to see what we're gonna do on cycle 26. And announces a new series.

[B]

Our shit is not as smelly as Tyra's. Everyone gets called out in their shit. But her shit was so bad. But like, even, even like how she had to get rid of the Jays and Nigel Barker when she was told to do that by the network and then the network ends up getting rid of her and replacing her with Rita Orr and the show. Yeah, I don't remember that. We must just. I don't think, I don't know how much of that we would have got at home. I don't think we would have gotten all the stuff that the Americans got.

[C]

Well, like everything. There's no way I'm gonna watch 20 something series of anything. Do you know what I mean? My attention span just wouldn't allow it. Everything kind of runs its course. And I think that's why she was locked into all these like extreme. The pressure was on, you know, because the models did say they were like, look, to be fair, we think at the start she just started out trying to do something positive and then she just completely lost her way. But like, remember Chacho and plugging the Vaseline and all? Like she was giving everyone a car and she was like Vaseline for everyone and everyone's just getting a bejeweled pot of Vaseline. Like there's a lot of hypocrisy there. And then she brought Shandy on her shot show and showed the scene of her having sex in the shower and she didn't want to see and she's never watched it. She. She's lost her, she's lost her one of herself. It's all very, it's a little Ellen Degeneracy. It's like you got mean for the sake of tv.

[B]

It is an absolutely incredible watch. And the TV show, it went onto a fading network and it was their biggest hit and it was massive, massive, massive. She was always trying to make it bigger and better and more different and push boundaries. But like was like, like, I'm not in no way is this anyway like that because I actually really enjoyed it. But imagine me standing on Grafton street now in a bikini selling an ice cream. Like, that just wouldn't happen now. But like back in the day that was our bread and butter. That was our job.

[C]

Yeah, well, I, like, I wish, I wish it had been mine. Sadly I didn't have the body for it. But yes, I'm, I'm agreeing with you. Like, I was also an ice cream model back in the day. I'm like, God, it was so tough being that hot when we were young, wasn't it?

[B]

But in the industry though, like I've been told to lose weight loads of times. Like, and when I went over to Lond, they're basically like, you're a fat. You're. There's no way you're going to be modeling at all over here. And that was very much said to me. Like when I moved over there, even in Ireland, I was too big for Ireland.

[C]

But like that's the, that is the, the business is notoriously fat phobic.

[B]

But the.

[C]

One of the women on the modeling show as well, she'd like, she was kind of a, like she was thin by normal standards but maybe not like model thin, which is kind of greyhound thin. But they kept her, her storyline was that she was, was putting on weight, that she wouldn't stop stuffing her face with bagels. And the, the editing would make it look like she was eating different bagels throughout the day, but it was the same bagel. Like she just ate one bagel a day. And then so me. Her photo shoot was gluttony and they dressed elephants like it was just non stop. Like I say different time, but that only gets you so far. Different lens. I agree with that. But have some compassion when you're presented with it now and be like, you know what, that. Yeah, yeah, it was. I apologize for this and I apologize for that. I lost my way. Instead of going, I sell ice cream in Australia now and I'm putting on series 26.

[B]

But also it's good to remember that like with TV, like you don't see everything in real time. Like even with shows that I'm done, I'm a celeb. Anything like that, like all of it is edited in a specific way for a specific reason.

[C]

So like what are you trying to say? Vogue.

[B]

No, I'm not trying to say anything. I'm just trying to say, well, and even in I'm a celeb, you're filmed 24 hours a day. They can't possibly show everybody 24 hours of footage in a day. It's a 45 minute show. Like so everything gets edited.

[C]

I look forward to seeing cycle 26. Tyra. What else can we say? Can't wait to see what you do next. One won't be apologizing anyway, that's for sure.

[B]

She's got a vote.

[C]

She apologizes. Like Vogue.

[B]

She's actually slightly. I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna learn a thing or two from Tyra.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sorry you feel I've done something wrong.

[B]

But I mean I sent Penny a message. I sent Spenny a message the other day. And I was like, do you know what? You're actually right. And he sent back the message. You're right with those big guys. I was like, it's not about anything serious.

[C]

But he's like, there's a crack. She's cracked once. Maybe I can shut down.

[B]

She's turning a corner.

[C]

Yeah. She's agreed that Cole's Law is out of date. It's stage one. It's stage one.

[B]

Even at the Brits, the vlogging didn't stop. I went around with the camera. I've gotten all the backstage bits. I got as many famous people as I could.

[D]

So you're only allowed to talk about that on this podcast if you call it by its correct name.

[B]

My vlog is called what does she even Do? It's on vlogging.

[C]

No, you're vlogging vlogs.

[B]

Oh, guys, I can't do the vlogging. It's really embarrassing. It's bad enough that I'm going around vlogging. Okay, fine. I was vlogging at the Brits at the Baptist. Do you know what? I have such good friends as, well. I met my friend outside Nursery Town. She was like, oh, my God, you're at the Baptist. I thought, what were you nominated for? I'm like, I was at the film Baptist between Joanne thinking I'm nominated for a Brit and then think I'm nominated. I'm like, I have the greatest friends. Everyone needs friends. Like, I have that. Just think that I'm winning awards for

[C]

D. You have a lot of strings to your bow. You have a lot of bows and a lot of strings. You're bold and well strung.

[D]

You're a well hungry now. You could get some sort of YouTube award. It's possible for the vlogs.

[B]

I could it. Well, thank you very much. We'll check out the vlog. It's all on there.

[C]

Can I just say we've added an Extra Perth on April 23 at 6.45pm and an extra Sydney on April 28 at 6.45pm do you know who's also going to Australia?

[B]

Who?

[C]

Garage. Is he check out Gar Farley as well. If you haven't seen him with me or you've probably seen him on your own, he's fantastic.

[B]

I have been threatening for years to get ready in a hotel room like I've seen everybody else do. Instead, I stay at home and there's three children crying around my feet. I never get nice pictures. I never get nice videos. And I just feel like a stressed Mess when I leave. Well, the Peninsula Hotel offered me a room to get ready in yesterday.

[C]

Fair play.

[B]

Fair play to them. I will. I was. I couldn't actually stay the night because I have three children that I had to bring to school on Monday morning. And I was. You know, when you're not. You're not happy to get, like, Luis. So basically what happened was Luis and my manager was in the hotel with me, so she took the room for the night. And I've never been more like. I wasn't happy for her at all. I was not.

[C]

Hold on. Can your kids not make their way to school once?

[B]

Joanne? We considered it. When I walked into that hotel, I was like, those little. They can just. Can they miss the day? Can they just fend for themselves? And I think they don't have a

[C]

school bus like we used to have.

[D]

They've done it so many times.

[C]

How high end is this school? Surely they should have a little. A bus or a little jet for the babies.

[B]

There's quite. There's quite a lot of roads. I can't really trust them. Yes, but like, you thought. I was furious. Imagine what Spencer was like when I said, we're not staying there. The room got so much used. So Alice, who was doing my hair, who's doing my makeup, she stayed. When we went to the baftas, she enjoyed the room for the day while we were at the baftas, sending me pictures from the bath. She was watching Gordon Ramsay in the bath in this hotel room. So it, like, got used so much. But it was. It was so nice to get ready there and to just be calm and relax.

[C]

This is my issue with award shows and why I. I was gonna say why I don't really get involved. I mean, it's obviously because I'm also not nominated for anything, but I. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of fanfare, it's a lot of grooming. It's a, you know, it's a whole. It's a whole. But it's obviously the lead up to choosing clothes and stuff like that. I find in my old age, I'm cba, as the kids would say. I just couldn't be arsed.

[B]

But, like, I have had to try and pry myself out of CBA because I literally, like, I have this new man. I'm like, no, I don't want to do that. I go to bed at 8 o'. Clock, I'm not going in. I'm not doing. Yeah, I don't care what anyone thinks. And I literally Am like, you have to go out and do something. I can't just. I'll just wither away and die at home. I had to. I had to just step out a little bit, even if I had no, no and no real reason to be there.

[C]

I was reading something the other day and it was saying, life isn't short. We just waste so much of us. We just waste so much of it. And it's. It's so true. I waste so much of it. And when I read that article about it, you know what? I. I texted my friend Anya because we've been threatening to do this years. And I was like, we're doing ayahuasca this summer, Anya. So we're going away. We're going to do ayahuasca in July. So expect epiphanies and bees now.

[B]

This better not go. We're going on holidays in July, you know.

[C]

Yeah, no, no, I have Spain booked in.

[B]

I have it all.

[C]

Booked in. July is. July is holidays and spirituality and epiphanies.

[B]

So I'm standing at the. There's loads of photo walls that you go to. So I'm standing at the photo wall and I just feel like. I just feel like such a SAP. I just do. And spending was like, would you just relax? And I was like, oh, my God. Cringe, cringe, cringe, crunch, crunch. Because you're there. And like, Kate Hudson's. And like, Benicio del Toro. Joanne. Oh, my God, you've got to go out with him. He is hot.

[C]

Stick him on the list there.

[B]

I would. I'm putting him top of your list now. Benicio del Toro, the accent, he seems like he'd be a bit of crap crack. You've seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

[C]

But.

[B]

So I'm standing in the photo wall anyway, and because I was shitting myself, I was just like. Because I know I have to do it, but you're. You're cringing because you're kind of like. Like an imposter there, in a way. And Spenny was like, darling, darling. And I was like, shut the up. I was just, like, trying to stay in the zone. Darling, don't. And anyway, we got onto the photo and he was like, babe, like, you didn't turn around. Leonardo DiCaprio was half a foot away from me. We were. He touched my arm and I didn't even know.

[C]

I was kind of surprised he was there. I has. Is that, like, a normal thing? I. I didn't. I was like.

[B]

I think he was quite a big deal to have there. There. But, like, I was just raging because I was. Like, I was. I know he'd look at me and think, a corpse. Because I'm 40. But, like, I just really wanted to see him up close. But then at the end of the night, I was standing right beside him again. He can't take it away from him. He's right.

[C]

Yeah. I saw a really funny meme the other day, was like, Leonardo DiCaprio. Distance himself. Distances himself from the 21st century since it turned 21. And he lost out to your man Robert Arameo, who I cannot believe is from Yorkshire. I was convinced he was Scottish. He was in in your eyes with Eve Hewson, which was a fantastic film. He played a Glaswegian and he plays a Glaswegian in that film that he won the Bachelor. But congratulations to Robert Romeo, because he won over Leonardo DiCaprio. And I wouldn't say Leo was expecting that.

[B]

No, but he won over Leonardo DiCaprio and he won over Timothee Chamele. But he also. So he came up on St for us. He won the Rising Star Award. So he won the bafta. Rise. Rising Star. And he came up and he was

[C]

like, oh, my God.

[B]

I just. I didn't expect this. I haven't written a speech. I haven't written a speech. And he's like. And then, like, literally five minutes later, he comes back up and he wins Best Actor. And he was like, what the hell?

[C]

Oh, come on.

[B]

What's going on? He did prepare, prepare to fail.

[C]

Come on.

[B]

I would be the same, though. You think you jinx yourself.

[C]

I think if you're up, like, you. Come on. Just something, you know. No, you gotta have a little line ready to go. Stick something to chat. GPT on your way up means. Do you know that. Do you know Sophie Willen? She's a friend of mine. I did taskmaster with her. Yeah, I was down at hers recently. She has four baftas.

[B]

Shut up.

[C]

Four baftas from the series. She wrote Alma's not normal. Four baftas. And I went down. She just had a baby. And I wanted to photo with the BAFTAs, but obviously I had to do one with the baby. So I didn't get one with the bafta. Baftas. I said manners would suggest I need to go baby first, bafta second. And then I forgot about the baftas. She's four baftas just sitting beside her fireplace.

[B]

I tell you what, if I ever win a bafta, it's BAFTA first. Baby second.

[C]

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

[B]

Sorry, Jessie Buckley. Won best actress. I love her.

[C]

Yeah, she's great. She's gonna get an Oscar, I can tell you. I'm. I, I think that's, I think that's even, I don't even. I bet the bookies aren't even taking bets on that at this stage.

[B]

I'd say it's just, just, well, Timothy Chamalay, I don't know if I'm saying his name right. Timothy Shamlay, is that right?

[C]

Just call him Tim.

[D]

That is what you always call him. It's Timothy Chalamet.

[C]

Same as I can't. Jacob Watts his face to this day. Elordy a Lordy. And even I had, I had a dream about him last night. Now it wasn't. Yeah, I've, I've been really w. By the Wuthering Heights of it all.

[B]

How did you get to have a dream about him? How did that work?

[C]

And it was weird because you, I was. Hold on, I'm to going to get the names.

[B]

We need to know what happened last night before you fell asleep. What was the sequence? How could it be repeated? Do you remember what happened, Joanne?

[C]

What you mean you want to dream about him too? So I was, I was Alison Oliver in the dream. So Alison Oliver is the amazing Irish actress who plays Izzy Isabella in the In W. I was her, but I was me. You know, dreams always make sense and I was.

[B]

Is she the one with the horse reins that I've heard, yes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't, it wasn't that now I was, there was no, there was no bondage but me and Jacob, there was a vibe and we were kind of scoring and I, I don't know. Look, I've been very taken with him. He's 28 years of old. I, I, 28 years of age. I really need to move on. I've gone fully out on but I mean Margaret Robbie's 35 and she. Do you know that Margaret Robbie used to drink in Infernos and Clapham?

[B]

Yes. I imagine bumping into her there. Sorry, Jacob Lord, he's 28. I'm sorry, he's. That's, I, that's allowed. I'm 40. I'm. If Spenny and I break up and Jacob Elordi is around, he's 6 foot 5, 28, it doesn't matter. You want like.

[C]

And he's 28, he's probably not even finished growing yet. He could probably get to 7 foot

[B]

3, 6 foot 7 by the end of this. But do you know who's the biggest ride ever. Is Paul Mescal's girlfriend.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, my. Isn't she's a singer, right?

[C]

Gracie.

[B]

Gracie Abrams.

[C]

Was Paul Mescal really on his phone or was that. Was that a bit.

[B]

Guys, it's three hours long.

[C]

Oh, my God. I had to take a Richland to go and see the Crucible at the weekend in Dublin, and it was fantastic. Gina Costigan, a friend of mine, was in, and she was absolutely brilliant. And actually, I texted Gina to congratulate her after. And who did I text text? Your Aunt Gina. Yeah, by accident. Who never came back to me.

[B]

Yeah, because she probably thought you'd lost the plot. She's like, I'll let her off. I'll leave her time to delete it.

[C]

I said, congratulations on stealing the show and the Crucible, Gina. So she was like, excuse me.

[B]

Yeah. Meanwhile, time was just sent.

[C]

Gina, the actress, was like, that rude came, and she never even commented on the fact that she'd watched me on stage for three hours. Have you seen the AI that they did to me on the thumbnail?

[B]

I was like, God, I did a great job in my makeup that day. I didn't have a Clue.

[C]

We are AIs within an inch of our lives now. This was not our creative choice. However, I don't hate it.

[B]

I am desperate. It's my favorite thing on the Internet right now is Punch the monkey, who was a monkey that was born in a zoo in Japan. And basically his mother. I figured out why his mother abandoned him and didn't want him. And I kind of put. Yeah,

[C]

sorry.

[B]

His mother was like, Sandra, okay, can

[C]

I ask a question? How can you choose it? Said she showed a lack of interest in raising him. Like, how can he just choose to bail out of raising your monkey baby? She kicked him in the same enclosure. No, no, she wasn't. I don't think she was kicking him.

[B]

No, they were all. They've all had a little go. So he's this little baby monkey, and basically his mom didn't want him at birth, but there were reasons the mother didn' want him. Because she's a young mother, first of all, education. Yeah. She. She wants to. She needs to go out there and

[C]

start working, living her travel. Yeah, she's got the priorities.

[B]

He was born during a heat wave, so that's a really high stress environment for.

[C]

For.

[B]

For monkeys. And they just feel like they have

[C]

to for anyone else.

[B]

And so I've been pregnant.

[C]

I mean, heat wave. If I gave birth in a heat wave, there's no there's no way in hell I'm keeping it, I can tell you that.

[B]

Talk to Gigi for three week. She was born at the end of July. I said, I'm not looking at her until it gets colder.

[C]

Mommy's tanning. Mommy's tanning.

[B]

Yeah. But they basically said that the monkey wouldn't survive in a usual environment. So the mom was just like, see you later. It's a heat wave. You can just. And anyway, so there's this monkey at. The world has fallen in love with them because basically the other monkeys keep hitting them and scrapping them. So the zookeepers gave him.

[C]

It's awful. Like, it's like. And you know what the gas thing is? The vulnerability of animals. Like, I. I was this weekend, I watched a documentary about a woman who was found dead in bin and it didn't move me anything like watching a monkey get punched in a zoo. Now I know that I feel very sorry for the woman in the bin. I'm just saying there's something about an animal because the absolute vulnerability of them, it's. I would be terrible on the Serengeti. I wouldn't last a second. We're not able. For the animal world. It's too much.

[B]

I just think as well, because he's going over looking for a hug, which makes it worse. Like, he's not looking for food. He has food.

[C]

I assume they called him Punch after he got punched. They didn't call him Punch first and just set him up for failure.

[B]

I know they didn't set him up for failure. They've been trying to make it work. That's why they gave him that teddy from ikea. So they gave him a monkey teddy, which he's using as a bit of. As a bit of comfort. And he drags it around. Some of the monkeys have been trying to take the teddy away from him. You are.

[C]

And he didn't even hump the orangutan. That shows great strength. I've never seen an animal have a teddy like that and not hump it.

[B]

What a guy. But also he got a little hump hug off one of the monkeys. He did get a little hug, but

[C]

then he's been accepted. Now we can all sleep again.

[B]

Before he accepted, he got. He got beaten up again. Did he?

[C]

Since what? Since we went on air?

[B]

Yeah. Well, it just keeps happening. I mean, their animals. Somebody offered 250 grand to take him and they're like, no, this is like, he'll be fine. Like the zookeepers have to keep reminding people that he's gonna be okay, but it's.

[C]

Don't show us this stuff. We can't cope with this. Also they're like, oh, it's fine. He's mentally strong. He's not mentally strong. He's shaking. Attached to an orangutan teddy bear from ikea.

[B]

He's not.

[C]

That's not showing resilience. That's like watching someone dangle off the side of a bridge and be like, oh, yeah, they're very positive about their future. It doesn't make any sense.

[B]

So basically what they're saying is because he had no maternal guidance to help him, like infiltrate the group, that they're all being a bit mean to him and beating them up. Like, I'd. I'd love to have punch at home, but I love this story. I feel like it's going to have a happy ending because they have to make it have a happy ending. If they turn around and say Punch is been punched to death, everyone's going to be absolutely raging and we won't forget it.

[C]

I think it's just the monkey world. I think we just need to accept that that's how they roll. Also, do you know what it made me? It made me appreciate the talent of making Irish nicknames. Punch is very lazy. If that was an Irish monkey be called like Toble around Tony or something like, like on his Tony, you would have had something a little bit more creative than just punch.

[B]

My mom calls Neil Billy cuz he's her idol. Billy. No mates.

[C]

Oh yeah, fine, that makes more sense.

[B]

Neil actually has loads of friends, but sometimes she'll just turn around if he's doing something on his own. You okay there, Billy?

[C]

The guy, the biggest gaslighter in H. Sandra Wilson.

[B]

Well, Alexander, you know, Alexander gets called Ray because he's her ray of sunshine. I'm like, who the is Ray?

[C]

It's ridiculous. Sandra. You need to start loving your children equally, Sandra. That's what I would say to her if I met her. Final, final honorary mention, if you don't mind. I found a new. A new role model. Her name is Danika Mason. She is an Australian sports reporter. Joe, are you aware of Danika and the great work she's doing and the great work she's doing for sports, Danika Mason. For Danika, very well respected sports journalist. She's over at Report. She's over in Milan reporting on the Winter Olympics and she's doing these live, you know, coming to you live from blah, blah, blah. Well, and she'd taken a drink as we'd Said, day in the business, she

[B]

taking a lot of drinks.

[C]

Well, she's saying she taking one drink. I said, dan, from one lush to another, that's not a one drink situation, honey.

[B]

That's a six. That's a six drinker.

[C]

I would say she was slurring her words, talking about iguanas making no sense

[B]

with the price of coffee. The price of coffee in America and Australia. I was like, oh, my God, please, no tan.

[C]

And then, of course, once they closed off the report, they're like, oh, she's seen. Seems tired and fatigued, exhausted, as we'd all. That's usually the real. But anyway, she came on after the next day and she apologized, and she's like, you know, it's not the standard I hold myself to. And then she's like, I hadn't had any dinner. It was all very girl Matt. She was like, I'm really high up in the altitude. Like, no dinner. And it was ill to what? I was like, tanika. And then she said, but I take full accountability. This is. This is Tyra Coded. You haven't really taken full accountability yet.

[B]

You had a nice time, you had a nice time. That's all that matters.

[C]

Days. You had a nice day and then you remembered. I remember once, I remember when I was doing that run of Vicar Streets, 1 Vicar street, somehow didn't get put in the calendar, which is, you know, it just didn't get. I woke up that day and I was. It was just. I, I, I am like. I'm like your man from Anchorman. Yeah. Robert Ron Burgundy. If it's not. If it's not in the calendar, I don't go.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I got. I've been out on a boozy lunch with my friends, and I got a call from the stage manager to be like, where are you? And I was like, I'm living my life. Where are you? And she's like, you're on tonight and no more than Danika Mason.

[B]

You hot? Hot.

[C]

There was. It was. It was touch and go. It was touch and go. Through no fault of my own. It was touch and go. But, yeah, so I feel you, Danika, and I'd like to personally invite you to Pedophile in Australia because I feel like you're a bit of me.

[B]

I think it should be good. Crying. She remember, I did Dancing with the Stars in Australia, and you're meant to do your leaving interview. And I, I pulled a Danika. I got really pissed and I said, yeah, I stayed up to, like, three in the morning, and I was like, well, I can't. I can't leave here in an hour to go to a TV station. I'm completely deranged. So I was like, the best thing to do is not to go on telly, which I felt like was the best thing to do. But then, like, everyone turned against me and they were like, this disgrace. And then in Ireland, they were like, oh, great, great. You're just. You're just, like, letting them all think that that's what we're like over here. And I was like, oh, Jesus.

[C]

That's so not like you, though. No.

[B]

No. Well, you know what happens when once. That's why I don't like to start having a drink, because if I have a drink, there might be a lot more drinks after that drink. So I kind of avoid it.

[C]

That's it for this week, as always. You can check my tour out in dramaguy.com and you can check vlogs. Vlogs out on vlogging. Vlog.com. joe Adwell has nothing to offer. Okay, thanks, everybody. See you next time.

[A]

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