Are we slagging Shania Twain?!

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: Are we slagging Shania Twain?!

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally

Date: June 12, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this episode, Vogue and Joanne dive into their classic blend of sharp humor, candid conversation, and unfiltered takes on everything from celebrity stories and showbiz gossip to their own personal mishaps. The main hook centers around Shania Twain’s surprise gig in a London pub, but the chat naturally meanders through themes of fame, aging, PR relationships, “boat girls,” and, in classic MTGM fashion, unusually lively chat about death and embalming.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Pinot Pod Palace and Class Banter (00:00–03:00)

• Joanne teases Vogue about her allegedly massive house, joking about “three or four acres” and staff quarters.
• Quick wit around poshness, uniforms, and coming “up through the toilets” (03:00).

“No, no, things have changed, but you remain the posh one, Vogue.” – Joanne (01:12)

2. Filming TV Shows, Awkward Costumes & Gogglebox (03:00–05:45)

• Joanne shares stories from filming, including soiling costume strings with blue toilet dye (03:00–03:56).
• New show announcements: "Unacceptable" (panel show) and upcoming Gogglebox appearances (04:16–05:29).
• Television as easy work and curiosity about people-watching in supermarkets (05:32).

3. Couponing & Queenpins Movie Chat (05:45–07:25)

• Lighthearted commentary on “extreme couponing,” referencing the film “Queenpins.”
• Reflections on how small-scale scams can snowball into major crimes.

“They end up getting busted by the FBI…it’s really such a good job.” – Joanne on Queenpins (06:41)

4. Family Roasting: Kids’ Unfiltered Insults (07:25–08:28)

• Vogue shares how her children liken her to “Daddy Pig” and comment on her mole.

“Otto turned around and told me that I look like Daddy Pig.” — Vogue (07:30)

5. AI, Instagram Fakes & Designer Furniture (08:29–10:00)

• Discussion about being fooled by AI-generated images online, especially when shopping for home furnishings.

“I keep getting rinsed on AI…write it in the caption!” – Joanne (09:12)

6. Tour Dates & The December Work Calendar (10:00–12:31)

• Joanne plugs her new London comedy date and shares her experiences working Christmas as a carer.
• Jokes about how nobody really works after December 17th.

7. Shania Twain’s Intimate London Pub Gig (13:08–20:07)

• The episode’s topic question: Did Joanne & Vogue "slag Shania Twain?"
• Narration of the buzz when Shania Twain played to 200 people at the Shacklewell Arms pub.
• They muse on why mega-stars do tiny gigs (building press, connecting with locals).

“She looks amazing. For any age I want to be told that I look amazing. If I’m 60 and I look amazing I’d like to be told it.” – Vogue (15:49)

• Funny analysis of “You look good for your age” as actually a backhanded compliment.

“You should be disgusting at this stage. But I’m kind of challenged because I don’t think you’re revolting.” – Joanne (15:53)

8. PR Stunts, “Small Room” Gigs & Ticket Sales (17:13–20:21)

• Joanne suggests doing “build up” gigs herself to sell tickets, joking about playing ever-tinier venues to drum up hype.
• Light speculation about Salt Lake City audiences (“apparently they don’t drink but they all do ketamine”).

“I don’t know if an entire city can sue you but I’m going to say that allegedly they’re all on ket.” – Cat (18:30)

9. On Celebrity, Yacht Life, and “Boat Girls” (20:21–26:07)

• Vogue reminisces about her “peak” DJ-ing days and wild Monaco Grand Prix yacht parties, juxtaposed with her current “mum” life.
• Comedy about failing to be “boat girls” due to their everyday lack of glamour.

“We can’t show up like this on a boat. Look at the state of us. Come on. We’re not boat girls.” – Joanne (26:03) “I’d wear my swimmer togs…and a swimming hat. I’d be ready in my life jacket.” – Joanne (26:12)

10. Lewis Hamilton & Kim Kardashian: PR Relationship? (26:53–31:31)

• Both hosts are skeptical of the rumored romance, calling it “horseshit” and “bollocks.”
• Commentary on celebrity PR relationships and Kim’s awkward interaction with Martin Brundle at Formula One.
• Joanne highlights how real relationships would better prep Kim for F1 events.

“It would literally be like me and you, Joe, scoring in the stalls of Wimbledon…so obviously not a thing.” – Joanne (27:22)

11. Taylor Swift/Harry Styles, Spelling Bee Shame, and Social Media Pile-Ons (31:31–34:36)

• Quick recall of old PR “couples” with zero chemistry.
• Joanne discusses being roasted online after a poor showing on a TV spelling bee – including national pride (“Can the Irish spell?”).

12. Influencer Pregnancy Stunts: Bonnie Blue (35:06–37:38)

• Reluctant coverage of influencer Bonnie Blue’s alleged “golden” baby shower and the drama around her real/fake pregnancies.
• The gang fact-checks using ChatGPT – and poke fun at body image.

13. Embalming Explained: From Listener Q&A (38:04–41:09)

• Email from a listener/embalmer, leading to a surprisingly informative segment about how embalming works in Ireland and how long bodies last.

“Once you’re embalmed and hygienically treated, you are totally free from any diseases… So, like, let’s say someone kisses you and your dad and they have the cold sore…and then someone else kisses you when you’re dead, they might pick up the cold sore…” – Joanna quoting the embalmer (39:35)

14. Career detours: Pathology, Caring & Building Sites (41:00–41:09)

• The hosts reflect on their odd jobs, including publicist work, construction sites, and caring in Alzheimer’s homes.

15. Weekly Recommendations (41:10–42:16)

• Joanne: Recommends Mother of All Cons (BBC documentary/podcast).
• Vogue: Recommends One Little Lie by Charlotte Leonard.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “No, no, things have changed, but you remain the posh one, Vogue.” – Joanne (01:12)
• “You look amazing. For any age I want to be told that I look amazing.” – Vogue (15:49)
• “You should be disgusting at this stage. But I’m kind of challenged because I don’t think you’re revolting.” – Joanne (15:53)
• “It would literally be like me and you, Joe, scoring in the stalls of Wimbledon…” – Joanne (27:22)
• “Once you’re embalmed and hygienically treated, you are totally free from any diseases.” – Joanna reading the embalmer’s email (39:35)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–03:00 – Wine palace, house banter, uniforms, and poshness
• 03:00–05:30 – Filming TV, toilets, and new shows
• 05:45–07:25 – Couponing, Queenpins, and fraud
• 07:25–08:28 – My kids roast me
• 08:29–10:00 – AI and Instagram fakery
• 10:00–12:31 – Tour dates and working Christmas
• 13:08–15:53 – Shania Twain secret gig and “for your age” compliments
• 17:13–20:21 – Pub gigs as PR stunts, Salt Lake allegations
• 20:21–26:07 – Yacht life, “boat girl” fantasies, and reality
• 26:53–31:31 – Kim & Lewis PR theory, grid walk etiquette
• 31:31–34:36 – Spelling bee disaster and internet comments
• 35:06–37:38 – Facebook influencer pregnancy drama
• 38:04–41:09 – Embalming Q&A
• 41:10–42:16 – Recommendations

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Tone & Style

• Breezy, bantering, deeply self-deprecating, and always ready to pivot from celebrity gossip to “deep” (occasionally morbid) life musings.
• The episode is rich with authentic Irish humor, lots of deadpan and vivid anecdotes, undercutting any chance at pretension.
• No topic is off-limits, and segues between high and low culture are rapid-fire and unapologetic.

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Takeaways for the Uninitiated

• The show is as much about the friendship and chemistry between Joanne and Vogue as it is about the topics discussed.
• Listeners get a crackling mix of celebrity critique, everyday relatability, confessions of embarrassment, and a rotating door of left-field topics (from executing the perfect PR gig to the best way not to rot after death).
• Shania Twain gets “slagged”—but affectionately, and only through layers of media hearsay.
• The chat is ultimately inclusive, relatable, and likely to make listeners feel like they're in the room with two outrageously honest friends swapping stories over a bottle of wine.

Transcript

[Joanna]

This is a global Player original podcast. It comes and it goes and then it comes back and then it goes for long periods of time and then you consider going back nursing in an Alzheimer's home and then it comes back again.

[Joe]

Lewis Hamilton. Kim Kardashian. I smell bull.

[Joanna]

You should be disgusting at this stage. But I'm kind of challenged because I don't think you're revolting.

[Joe]

What happened?

[Joanna]

I know. At least you had it. I never had that style.

[Joe]

I had it. Where did it go?

[Joanna]

Got married and had kids on.

[Joe]

Yeah. Thank you for renting us your house. Rent free. Joanne. I'm happy.

[Joanna]

The Pino Pod Palace. You're very welcome.

[Joe]

I am disappointed in the price of the parking. 10 or an hour Tenor. An hour?

[Joanna]

Well, now that I'm expensing a giant Pinot palace down the back of the garden, I, I'm, I'm thinking of putting the two story car park down there as well.

[Joe]

You could get one of those car parks in your front garden. I keep mentioning the front garden.

[Joanna]

You know, I mean, it's, I would do. Yeah, it's, it's an area, three or

[Joe]

four acres out there, so I think.

[Joanna]

Three or four acres, my arse. I see what you're right.

[Joe]

It's nine or ten.

[Joanna]

Yeah, I see what you're doing. No, no, things have changed, but you remain the posh one. Vogue.

[Joe]

I tried to look around this house and I got too tired. It was too expensive.

[Cat]

I ended up in the staff quarters. I don't care how I got there.

[Joanna]

Yeah, how you got out, I don't know. That's where, that's where I sent you there.

[Joe]

She let Phyllis out.

[Joanna]

Joe sent you there. That's. I said, please come through the staff quarters, Joe. He came through the front door. I was like, excuse me, how embarrassing. There's a staff entrance is down the back and it's another postcode down the road. So awkward when the staff come through the front door, isn't it?

[Joe]

I, Joe, come on now. Remember your place.

[Joanna]

Where's your uniform? Jo, I gave you a penny to wear. Why are you wearing your own. Why are you wearing your own clothes?

[Joe]

Can you. I, I, I know, I'm aware of people that do give people uniforms.

[Joanna]

Pennies.

[Joe]

Yeah, no, like full uniforms. Yeah, they're friends of my, like, parent, My friends. Friends. My parents. Did I say that?

[Joanna]

Oh, no, I think you said friends of your parents.

[Joe]

Yeah, friends, my parents. That's what I mean, friends, my parents. But like, they're very, very wealthy and

[Joanna]

they gave their staff costumes to Wear full outfits.

[Joe]

Like full.

[Joanna]

What kind of outfits? Like, like chicken suits and stuff.

[Joe]

No, like stuff that you would have seen on that movie Richie Rich. You kind of go in, you're like

[Joanna]

oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Like the proper. Like what you would assume not, not a sexy version of a made out, but just.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well listen, I. When I was cleaning toilets in Colony Castle Hotel, which you know, was

[Joe]

one

[Joanna]

of my favorite jobs, I've come up,

[Joe]

you know, you could come clean.

[Joanna]

I've come through the toilets. I've come through. I've come up through the toilet, Joe. I had an apron and Penny and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[Joe]

Well, at least you're not getting toilet on your own clothes, you know what I mean?

[Joanna]

Exactly.

[Joe]

No, we were filming something else this weekend and every time I went to the toilet I was like. I honestly was like, have I wet my pants? Because it's a possibility at this stage. I was like, why am I wet? What? And I kept feeling like I was wet. And the toilets like were full of this blue dye as well and they, they did reek now. They were very bad smelling toilets. Then eventually towards the end of the second day of filming I realized that the garments they had given me kept falling in the toilet every time I sat down and it was wetting the back of me. So it wasn't. It was a nice thing to know. It was.

[Joanna]

She was dragging a tail of fecal matter around there all weekend and she didn't know.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know I didn't piss myself,

[Joanna]

but I had piss all string on the costume they gave us. That's what we will say. And her string was full of Mount Blue. I know. You were the talk, you were the talk of the town, everyone. We'd see you coming and we would dispatch quickly.

[Joe]

Stay away from. Don't get too close.

[Joanna]

I'll tell you what, we can say we were filming because it's out today, it's out tonight at 9 o'.

[Joe]

Clock.

[Joanna]

Is that a drum?

[Joe]

I'm kind of taken aback by how quickly it just came out. We only filmed it yesterday and they're like oh yeah, it's out on Friday. I was like pardon.

[Joanna]

Cuz we're so used to filming stuff like and it coming out maybe in a year's time or six months time, eight months time, or potentially never if it's dog.

[Joe]

Well that's. Sorry. That's why your show, you just filmed, what was it, what's it called?

[Joanna]

Unacceptable.

[Joe]

Unacceptable tlc.

[Joanna]

Unacceptable TLC out June.

[Joe]

I was surprised that that was Such a quick turnaround because it feels like you only. Like you only did that in the last few months. Like, that's still quite a quick turnaround.

[Joanna]

July 5th.

[Joe]

Oh, she's birthday party.

[Joanna]

July 5th, 9:00pm Is it party.

[Joe]

Party.

[Joanna]

Oh, party. A party. Okay, so that. Unacceptable. Just. It's a. It's a panel. New panel show with myself as a team captain, Richard Iwadi as a team captain, and at Gamble, where we take unpopular, unacceptable opinions and we argue them too much to the laughter and lulls of the audience and the onlooker.

[Joe]

Well, I'm excited to watch it.

[Joanna]

I'm excited to watch it too.

[Joe]

Now, what Joanne and I are doing this Friday is Goggle Box. Goggle Box. The best job of it is what you think it is. You sit there, they let you watch tv, you talk about it and you eat food.

[Joanna]

I finally got you to sit down.

[Joe]

I was thrilled. Well, I could sit down because I knew I was working, so I felt like I was doing.

[Joanna]

Yes, fine. Yeah. I've kind of dragged Vogue into my bedrock life. But it's a job now, which is fantastic. So, yeah, we're on Goggle Box this Friday and next Friday.

[Joe]

Yeah, Channel four.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah. If anyone's arsed when you watch people

[Joe]

doing basic things, it's like, I'd love to do a show where you just go around and, like, you stay at a till in a supermarket and you just see what people have bought, like each different person coming here. Oh, that's what you got. Oh, my God, you got that. I wondered who bought those fairy cakes. You know what I mean? I'd love to see what people do with their shopping. Do that.

[Cat]

We have the infrastructure to do that. You could commentate.

[Joanna]

Yeah, but do we have the interest show?

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Did you never watch Extreme Couponing? Oh, my God, what a load of shite. I could never get enough of that show, really. Like, these people and the amount of money they save, but they literally have, like, storage rooms in their house full to the brim of all this additional stuff. And there's some nice extreme couponers who basically extreme coupon and give it all to charity.

[Joanna]

I mean, I can see the appeal. There was a great film about couponing with your one. Your man's wife. Clear it up. Shepherd's wife. What's her face.

[Joe]

Oh, Kristen Bell.

[Joanna]

Kristen Bell had a what, Joe? What was the name of it about

[Joe]

Cook funning Queen pins.

[Joanna]

Oh, it's brilliant. So basically they end up.

[Joe]

I won't spoil it.

[Joanna]

Well, maybe I will, actually.

[Joe]

You Know we discovered yesterday. I don't care if anything gets spoiled.

[Joanna]

Like to know the ending of everything. She's unspoiled. The queen painting where they. They're coupon. Two women couponing and then they realize that they can fake coupons. And then they set up this big fraudulent coupon ring and it ends up like. They end up getting like busted by the FBI and stuff. But it's really. Isn't it such a good job you watched it?

[Cat]

I've not seen it.

[Joanna]

I think it's on Netflix. It's brilliant, America.

[Joe]

Really funny about like small crimes like that. They get really bothered by.

[Joanna]

No, this was like they end up taking like billions.

[Joe]

Oh, did they? Yeah.

[Joanna]

This was no small crime.

[Joe]

Oh, I have.

[Joanna]

This was like.

[Cat]

This was like proper million dollars.

[Joe]

$40 million.

[Joanna]

Okay. Billions was an acceptable far.

[Joe]

Close enough.

[Joanna]

40 million.

[Joe]

Yeah. No small crime with no tax.

[Joanna]

That ain't no small crime, baby.

[Joe]

Yeah. My kids have been insulting me all week long this week.

[Joanna]

Go on.

[Joe]

Otto turned around and told me that I look like Daddy Pig.

[Joanna]

Daddy Pig.

[Joe]

He said I have. He said. He said I have the same dummy as Daddy Pig. Daddy Pig hasn't been to the gym in a while. And the whole joker and Kevin's quite mean to Daddy Pig. Look at Daddy Pig.

[Joanna]

Daddy Pig.

[Joe]

Daddy Pigs. A ball.

[Joanna]

Well, tell Theodore Daddy Pig.

[Joe]

It was Auto.

[Joanna]

Tell Otto Daddy Pig is hoarding his successor. So if he keeps talking like that, he's going to be forgotten about and never seen again.

[Joe]

I'm looking at things that I've put in my. Gigi was wondering when I was going to cut my mole off. Yeah, we had a long chat about that. And she said, and what if. What if you had one here and it was green and had hair coming out? Would you cut it out then? But why are you not cutting out the one there? Why won't you get rid of it?

[Joanna]

Oh, my God.

[Joe]

I know.

[Cat]

She's been reading the Daily Mail comments.

[Joe]

They've just been insulting me left, right and center. And the last thing I found was I found a 200 foot lazy river for your back garden.

[Joanna]

What?

[Joe]

Remember we were talking about getting you a padding field? Did you see the 200 foot lazy river on Instagram?

[Cat]

Look like AI?

[Joanna]

Oh, don't tell me.

[Joe]

Please tell.

[Cat]

I think it was because I don't.

[Joe]

Why would that be AI? It was only like. It was just like a snake paddling pool.

[Cat]

Yeah, but it fit into their garden perfectly and round all of their plants.

[Joe]

Joe, that. Yeah, I know, but that was because they were they set it up.

[Cat]

I'll look into it, look into it.

[Joanna]

I. I got, I got stung by a panda the other day. Who? You know these ones that the, the Chinese coopers around. Well they're like Panda recognizes the voice of his old zookeeper and of course I love that stuff and. But he actually ran up and like jumped into the zookeeper's arms and I was like, huh, do pandas jump into.

[Joe]

I was like oh God, I've done it again.

[Joanna]

Do you know what? Actually I keep getting rinsed on AI Because I'm trying to get furniture for the house, right? So I need a couple of bits. Like I need like a kitchen table and stuff. Yeah. And I keep getting stuck on designers accounts and they're like oh no, that's a, what's it called? A prototype. They're like, it's AI I saw this stunning chrome kitchen table with these matching seats and I was like that is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And I, I contacted your man, he's like oh, that's AI. And I was like write it in the caption.

[Joe]

But why does. Yeah, why does he have it on his Instagram if it's AI?

[Joanna]

Cuz he's trying to drag people in with prototypes. And then he's like oh yeah, no that doesn't exist. But like here's a car.

[Joe]

Yeah, but it can't. Can you just get someone to make it for you?

[Joanna]

I'd say, but I like I, I probably could but like you know, I'm not Michael McIntyre. I don't have that kind of money.

[Joe]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Joanna]

Can I talk about something please?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Joanna]

Sorry, I have another plug. Sorry, we're plug heavy today. I have added an extra new London date. Okay, okay, I know it's not even.

[Joe]

It's only one day. Please get it right.

[Joanna]

It's not exciting anymore. I realize that. December 16, London Hammersmith Apollo Pedophi. On sale now. Well, it's on sale this Friday. What date is this? Friday, it's today.

[Cat]

This Friday is the 12th of June.

[Joanna]

12th of June. Or no, no sorry, it's on sale today. Wednesday. So sorry. By the time this goes out it will be on sale.

[Joe]

This is it's date. How does she get through this tour?

[Joanna]

December 16th. On sale now. Think of me as your Christmas party. It is a Wednesday. But I don't care. It's December.

[Joe]

It's December, everyone. The days don't matter and world shuts down on December 17th. There's no work on December 17th.

[Joanna]

I work. Perfect.

[Joe]

That's when I finish work. December 17th. No one wants to get back to emails. Don't insult people by going into the office. Get wrecked at your own show.

[Cat]

If you're listening back to this episode at Christmas and it's December 24th or 5th and you're working today. I'm sorry.

[Joanna]

I'm sorry.

[Joe]

Well, you might be getting double pay. You might be getting double.

[Joanna]

They're probably getting double.

[Joe]

You're saving lives.

[Joanna]

Well, sorry, Joe. Sorry. I know, I know you're looking at me saying that's not a fair thing to say. When I was a carer in an Alzheimer's home.

[Cat]

Pauses for effect.

[Joanna]

Pauses for effect.

[Joe]

What a. Oh, my God, she's such a kind woman. We thought for a moment.

[Joanna]

Thank you. You might say that again. I was talking over you. Get that clean.

[Joe]

What a lovely, caring woman. I'd say that they. Okay.

[Joanna]

Yeah. And I loved my job because that's the kind of person I am.

[Joe]

How long did it last? Be honest. How. How long were you there?

[Joanna]

Three years. I did it for a college.

[Joe]

What do you mean you did it for college?

[Joanna]

For a couple years of the long ass degree that I did.

[Cat]

You love it?

[Joe]

Loved it.

[Cat]

When the tour's over, perhaps I could

[Joanna]

go back volunteering maybe. And I loved the. A night shift now. It was heavy work. All the nurses, their backs are wrecked because they're lifting. Like, even though you have to hoist and stuff. It's really heavy work and it's very repetitive work. I will say, I think three years, it was. It was kind of. I think it was like two and a half. I think that was my max. Anyway, my point was, when I was being an incredibly kind person, I worked Christmases. Like I would have worked Christmas Eve, Steven's Day and all that jazz. I'm just saying I'm one of the people.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Joanna]

Do you have a local pub?

[Joe]

No, John. Well, I do. I have a pub that's near me.

[Joanna]

Yeah. Yeah. You don't know.

[Joe]

They actually do a nice margarita. I've had one there.

[Joanna]

My suggestion is you need to be more engaged in your local publicans, newsletters and community notice board because much to the shock and astonishment of the locals of the Shackle. Well, Arms. Yeah, I think it's in E. I'm

[Joe]

desperate to know where you're going with this.

[Cat]

East London Duston, of course, it's into.

[Joe]

Very cool.

[Joanna]

Yeah. Much the astonishment of the locals down the Shocker while arms. They were offered tickets, 200 tickets. 200 lucky ticket buyers of the local pub at the shackle. Arms.

[Joe]

200.

[Joanna]

Got to see none other than Shania Twain.

[Joe]

Really?

[Joanna]

Yes. Shania Twain sold 200 tickets in the Shackle Arms.

[Joe]

She played the Shock.

[Joanna]

Twain played the Shockwell Arms.

[Cat]

Praise be.

[Joanna]

Praise be.

[Joe]

Now, I don't.

[Joanna]

I think she could. Hello.

[Cat]

Don't you want to think carefully before you say what you think carefully.

[Joe]

I will think. Listen, I've got no shade towards Shania Twain. It's not. I didn't say it. I didn't see her in real life.

[Cat]

Lord and Lady Savior.

[Joe]

Well, I didn't see her in real life, so. Actually, this is not coming from my mouth, the horse's mouth. This is coming from a lot of other people's mouth.

[Cat]

I heard, you know, the horse. This horse was there. Do you mean in Hyde Park? I heard it's perfectly good.

[Joe]

Okay. How many drinks have you had?

[Cat]

That is irrelevant.

[Joe]

Yes. And also because you were. Because you were like that. You were. Your. Your. Your. Your mouth was wetted by. And the chorus were brilliant. But I heard. Well, sorry. So I didn't say it. And also I heard that about class. Who. I heard it about class debris as well.

[Joanna]

Sorry, I have to look up for my notes here to confirm. Are we slacking?

[Joe]

I'm not sure. I am not. I would dream of slagging Schneider Twain. I'm just passing on the information that was given to me by the papers and by. Well, but sometimes people are a bunch of moaners. And maybe she was brilliant. I don't have a personal opinion because I didn't see her.

[Joanna]

Well, I will say, as someone who works in the performing arts myself, you know, we're not always. You know, there's days where we're not fair on our best, I would say. And, you know, talent is sporadic.

[Joe]

I'm very sporadically talented.

[Joanna]

Sparks. It's sporadic. It comes and it goes and then it comes back, and then it goes for long periods of time, and then you consider going back nursing in an Alzheimer's home, and then it comes back again, and then you've spent all your money, and then it goes.

[Joe]

Talent all the time. It's exhausting.

[Joanna]

You can't. It's sporadic, you know, and. And it's a journey. But anyway, whatever about whether she was good in High park or not, these 200 people got to see her. And I mean, I looked at the videos. Like, she looks. She literally. That woman is immortal. She's like Cher and those sandwiches from Tesco and cockroaches. She will never die now. She's. She is only 60. She looks phenomenal. And I know we don't like to talk about women looking good at their age. I can't bear that term. But in the same breath I'm going to say it. She looks amazing. For any age I want to be

[Joe]

told that I look amazing. If I'm 16, you look and I look amazing, I'd like to be told it.

[Joanna]

Yeah, but not for. I hate the four year age because that discredits you. Basically saying you should be disgusting at this stage. But I'm kind of challenged because I don't think you're revolting. That's what that says to me. You look great for your age is like, you should be at a bin now, but you're not. And now I'm confused cuz I think maybe I want to ride you. That's what it says to me.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Cat]

Anyway, when does that start for women? When do people start saying, oh no, I got.

[Joe]

No, no. Yeah, come on. Oh my God, you're 40. Yeah, yeah. It is actually kind of rude. I do, I do find it rude when people are like that.

[Joanna]

But like 40.

[Joe]

But like when you think about what we used to think of 40 year olds when we were in our 20s, I thought 40 year olds were literally like on the way to the nursing home.

[Joanna]

Yeah. I know that I'd be hoisting you in and out of your bath.

[Joe]

Yeah, I was getting ready to get bathed by Joanne. I was looking forward to it. Anyway, I'll missed a spot.

[Joanna]

I'll bring us back to the shock. Well, arms please.

[Joe]

You missed a spot down there. Yeah, go again. I'll get my kicks wherever I go.

[Joanna]

I'm not putting your tampon in vogue. You're perfectly able to do it yourself.

[Joe]

You went through the menopause.

[Joanna]

I've seen it.

[Joe]

I post partial.

[Joanna]

You have a concussion, folk. You have a concussion. You can put in your own tampon. Anyway, back to the shocker. Well, arms, if you don't mind.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

So there was huge excitement among the locals and one guy was saying he's like. I assumed it was a scam but he went anyway. Which I liked because I was like, that's a bit of me, that's a bit of me now. Thought it was a scam, paid the money anyway and went and yeah, she put on a great show. And I was like, I think it's press because I think she has a big stadium show to sell and it's really smart move. Move like Ed Sheeran does it as well if you pop into your local. He does, yeah. But I think he's doing other stuff in the Devonshire and stuff in Dublin in town. But like I was thinking if, for if you're not selling. But the problem is. So I'm not really selling tickets in Salt Lake City but if I like if I put in 200 seats in the shock of all arms, I think my, I think my venue in LA are in Salt Lake City is 200 seats. So I think I'd have to do like a five seater build up or like just basically perform to the queue

[Joe]

and Wendy's drunk and watch the Housewives of Salt Lake City and then get onto your agent and say I want to do a show in Salt Lake City.

[Joanna]

No, there was no reason for me going there.

[Joe]

I think you went last time. Did you go last time?

[Joanna]

No, I've never been to Salt Lake City.

[Joe]

I can't wait to see what it's like.

[Joanna]

Apparently they're all on ketamine.

[Joe]

Really?

[Joanna]

Apparently they don't drink but they all do cash. That's what I heard.

[Joe]

Did I tell that was a very large generalization? Cuz Cat, are you sure it's not shrooms Cat? Cat's cat's pretty dark. Like you can't piss and stuff.

[Joanna]

No, it's definitely cat. They're cat. They're cat gals.

[Cat]

I don't know if an entire city can sue you but I'm going to

[Joanna]

say that allegedly they're all on cash.

[Cat]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

Speculation heard and like I have no interest in cash up. I'll say that right now.

[Joe]

I have no, I actually have no interest in cash.

[Joanna]

I thought this is so exciting. It's a really good way to get press to go to a small room because then you're like oh my God, what's this superstar doing? And from now on because I don't really pay attention to my community board in my pub I'm too usually busy like ordering and stuff but from now on I'm like, you could look at it and be like it could be pub quiz Monday, half price curry Tuesday, Madonna Wednesday. I mean keep an eye on the Tim Bobbin community now.

[Joe]

Keep an eye. I'll keep an eye. But this is a very rare occurrence. This is like I don't know.

[Joanna]

I don't know.

[Joe]

Well if it goes I just, I feel like, do you know what, I'm surprised because it's not like she needs like she'll just sell tickets anyway. She doesn't need this for selling tickets.

[Joanna]

Well she, I think it's to build up a bit of like a bit of excitement.

[Joe]

You know, but it's like nice community vibes you like. I feel like you can be like touching the person that you love.

[Joanna]

We could see Bono down in gales.

[Joe]

That noise. By the way, everyone is work being done outside. They are just. They are just cutting back some of Joanne's forestry at the front.

[Joanna]

I've decided to build into the neighbor's garden. I've asked for no permission.

[Joe]

Something.

[Joanna]

Anyway, Shania, you looked fab and apparently she did a great job. Great job in the shock of all arms and also great promo for the shackle.

[Joe]

Well, Chenoya Twain Shackle.

[Joanna]

Well, I bet she got changed in the toilets.

[Joe]

I mean she got a lot of press.

[Joanna]

I think it's such a good idea. But I'm trying to figure out how I make it work for me in North America because I'm trying to sell 200 seaters so I just don't know how small I can go to get bread.

[Joe]

10 cedars to MI.

[Joanna]

10 seaters.

[Joe]

That does look great.

[Joanna]

A bus stop.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

Drum McNally live from a bus stop in Salt Lake City.

[Joe]

Joe, she looks like that one from selling Sunset. Chrishell.

[Joanna]

She does. She looks like just a really hot woman.

[Joe]

Yeah, very attractive. She's always been attractive.

[Joanna]

Do you ever hear the story about her garage? Used to do it in the stand up. But the. When she did the three. When she did the three are you know what? It was the point back in the day, Shania. And she was flying around the place because she wants to fly. So she put herself on strings and off she went. Something I'm considering doing myself.

[Joe]

I don't know why you don't fly. I think that that would be a really good idea.

[Joanna]

I looked into flying, but when she flew, when she came back, someone had stone or shoes.

[Joe]

Stop.

[Joanna]

I suggested, I said, gorod, maybe you take the hit in this and we shoot you out of a cannon.

[Joe]

She looked at the people with the. With the restricted view. They won't complain then just shooting friends

[Joanna]

and family out of a cannon. Shoot you up to the restricted view.

[Joe]

Come on.

[Joanna]

Next. Stack them and rock them.

[Joe]

Did you watch the Formula one this weekend? No, I just. I love Formula one because I remember when I was younger my dad used to always watch Formula one and like I'd go out in a bender and I'd come home and I'd be really quite theory. So I would just lie in the sitting room with them and just like. I wouldn't watch it. I just hear the noise. Yeah. I'd be like, oh, this is nice. The fire would Be on. I'm like, it's okay. It doesn't matter what you did yesterday. Forget about it. The Formula One song.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But I feel like it's having another moment. I feel like loads of people. It used to be kind of an older man's sport, and now I feel like people are getting back into it. But I've liked it for my whole life. I love the noise, but I think it's a really, like, fun thing to watch on tv. But it was obviously in Monaco this weekend, which is an amazing one to go to. I once. This kind of freaked me out because, you know, when I remember things. So I remember I went to the Monaco Grand Prix. I used to DJ at the Grand Prix. I DJed Kuala Lumpur, I DJed Melbourne, I DJed Monaco. And then I remember, and I felt really embarrassed about Monaco because I went with somebody and we went absolutely bananas. We were staying on a boat, on the track. So staying on, like, a proper yacht. Yeah. In a room. Ended up getting absolutely deranged. Ended up on your man Flavio Briatore's. Yes. He used to be. He's like this billionaire, and he used to go out with Naomi Campbell. Why we were on the yacht, I don't know. I remember it was very strange. Like, it was really dark and loads of people were in all different corners. And I was like, this feels weird as to why we're here.

[Joanna]

God, I really wish we'd have been close back then. I mean, I feel like I've very much gotten the. I know the pared down version. Like, I could have been in Monaco.

[Joe]

What?

[Cat]

She's in her Purple Dragon era.

[Joanna]

She's in her Purple Dragon era. You're so right, Joe. And then she's dangling stories about yachts in Monaco in front of us.

[Joe]

I only remembered.

[Joanna]

But anyway, she's like, you want to come to Gigi's passing zoo? No, I want to go to Monaco and get up on a yacht.

[Joe]

I'm ashamed of this story. I feel really bad. So when you're in, like, they close all the roads, obviously, at a certain time in the morning. So, like, at 6:00am, I'm like, walking back across over to the yacht that I was staying on. I don't remember who owned it. We were, we were. We were. It was with a brand. I was a part of. The deal was that I was staying on this yacht and it was really amazing. And we'd watched quality. I was yachting, we were watching qualifying, which was the day before, and then it was the day of the Race, which is a really exciting day, but, like, I'd obviously stumbled in at like 6 or 7 in the morning, trying to get in before they closed the road. Didn't see the race.

[Joanna]

Didn't see the race.

[Joe]

I'm so over. I know. I'm ashamed. I thought.

[Joanna]

Sorry. I thought this was going to be way worse.

[Joe]

I find that so embarrassing that somebody kindly invited me to stand on a yacht and watch the race and I couldn't even get out of bed.

[Joanna]

You watched. You're watching Formula One from a yacht? Yeah. This is the beautiest thing I've ever heard.

[Joe]

I don't. Well, what's. Do you know what I was thinking? What's happened? Why has my life gone downhill so fast as well? What happened?

[Joanna]

I know. At least you had it. I never had that style.

[Joe]

I had it. Where did it go?

[Joanna]

You got married and had kids.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

I'm sorry, that's. And I. That is. No, I mean, I'm sure there's married women with kids also getting deranged on yachts, but, I mean, you can't live that life forever. Also, it was a job. Sadly, it's not your life.

[Joe]

I think. Odd. We wouldn't be.

[Joanna]

We wouldn't be filming this in the Pinot Pod Palace. We'd be filming it in your yacht in Monaco.

[Joe]

I feel like it. It feels like. Remember that time I said I didn't like flowers and then people stopped giving me flowers and I really didn't like it. Maybe because I had gone on the yacht and I didn't like being on the yacht.

[Joanna]

Yes.

[Joe]

So I would like to say that I. I liked it. Yeah. And I'd go back.

[Joanna]

I like. She likes us.

[Cat]

This is a pro yacht podcast.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. We're pro yacht.

[Joanna]

Yeah, we're pro. We are. We're very much pro.

[Joe]

And you know what? Actually, it was the first and only time I've ever stayed in a yacht. And, like, it's not going to happen very much in my life, so I'm. Maybe I should be happy that I just stayed in bed.

[Joanna]

Did you shag anyone for a job? I heard that's what goes on in those yachts.

[Joe]

No. I had a partner at the time.

[Joanna]

Who cares about them. No matter.

[Joe]

Well, it was.

[Joanna]

You're on a yacht.

[Joe]

He was there all the time.

[Joanna]

Apparently they used to hire really hot actresses and they'd go out and kind of like, everyone kind of just big. Have big orgies on the yacht.

[Joe]

Will we. Are we turning into. We want to be boat girls.

[Joanna]

I don't Think.

[Joe]

I don't know if I'd be good. I don't think we'd be.

[Joanna]

If it got me a couple of ticket sales in Salt Lake City, I'd do it.

[Joe]

Listen, I'll boat.

[Joanna]

Yeah?

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm not. This is no shade to you or I. It's no shade. I just think you have to be a classier girl to be a boat girl. I don't think. I think we're a bit bloke.

[Joanna]

I've got. Sorry. I've got a bit.

[Joe]

Look, we can't show up like this on a boat. Like, look at the state of us. Come on. We're not boat girls.

[Joanna]

I'd wear my swimmer togs.

[Joe]

Oh, my God. One of those hats. Yeah.

[Joanna]

And a swimming hat. I'd be ready. Like, you know, am I. Am I My life jacket. I'd be ready. I'm honestly not just gonna go.

[Joe]

What's it called? The Tender. The Tender. Juan's on the tender. Sitting with her with her goggles and her hat on.

[Joanna]

Am I ready to go? Ready to ride my way?

[Joe]

Will you put the slide out, please?

[Joanna]

You've actually. You've actually. The three tickets that had been sold for Salt Lake City, they've actually rescinded.

[Joe]

What I wanted to know about the Formula One. Lewis Hamilton. Kim Kardashian. I love Kim Kardashian. I smell. I don't believe it.

[Joanna]

It's such horseshit, isn't it?

[Joe]

Such bollocks.

[Joanna]

Such horseshit. It actually annoys me. It annoys me now that they think

[Joe]

that we're that stupid.

[Joanna]

Yeah, it annoys me.

[Joe]

I have not seen it, like. You see little. They've the only, like, kind of, like, thing you see of them, like, touching each other. Like, it's very, like. It's like kissing your brother or sister.

[Joanna]

It would literally be like me and you, Joe, scoring in the stalls of Wimbledon to get up to get a pop shot. It'd be so obviously not a thing. We just.

[Joe]

They haven't even done that properly, though. They've done like a peck.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It's like you'd be getting, like. If you're at the start of a relationship, you should be like. You should be at least down to the neck. Swallow the whole headset. They're barely kissing.

[Joanna]

Who. Who in that industry comes out publicly with your boyfriend after three minutes?

[Joe]

You don't. And they've been friends for years, supposedly because.

[Joanna]

Sorry, do you remember I. I saw him on Raya, remember?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

I mean, that isn't it. That isn't anything to do with the story. I'm just throwing it in there. We didn't match. We didn't match. But I feel like maybe he wanted to. I just said it's not a career. You know, he'd be traveling all the

[Joe]

time for the yachts. That was our in.

[Joanna]

I think Lewis Hamilton. I don't know what his deal is, but I think it really. And I was getting really worked up about it last night because they looked really smug and they're like, oh, look at the little people thinking we're in a relationship. How much? Also, that's what you do when you need breath.

[Joe]

Look at the little people.

[Joanna]

Look at the stupid little people thinking we're in a relationship and they're obsessed with us. They're all taking photos of stupid little peasants. That's what it feels like.

[Joe]

And also, I am one of those peasants.

[Joanna]

Yeah, obviously, we are having a look. That's what's so annoying about us.

[Joe]

But you can't stop yourself how much.

[Joanna]

Like, usually those PR relationships are because you need pr. What. In what world does Kim K. Need any more press?

[Cat]

We're probably legally required to say that all of these views are your own and that we have no evidence to back up the claims that you're making.

[Joe]

I have. I have a lack of evidence. Do you think that's what I have?

[Joanna]

He's gonna sue us for defamation. Your relationship's alive.

[Joe]

It is Lewis. Yeah, right. I'm too busy picking his outfits for. I say.

[Joanna]

But what I did find interesting was Kim K. She's swanning around the Formula one, whatever, blowing kisses to Lewis. The whole thing absolutely reeks. But then this guy, Martin Brundle, who I was not familiar with.

[Joe]

Ah, okay.

[Joanna]

Now it made me laugh.

[Joe]

Martin Brundle is like. He is like, the king of F1.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, Kim K. Couldn't give a flying fandango who Martin is. So Martin does these, like, impromptu interviews where he just goes up and obviously he's like, you know, he's kind of flexing his muscles and he thinks he's the man, the man of the moment.

[Joe]

If you're going to be on the grid and, like, you're, you're, You're. You're famous enough for Martin Brundle to come up to you. Like, you've got to give him a little bit of time. Like, what's that other. The footballer. And Bepe nearly didn't. Didn't like, talk to him. Because if you don't talk to Martin Brundle, you really like you, yourself.

[Joanna]

Well, she. I. I mean. Well, anyway, the story is that kid that Martin tried to talk to her and she. She just kind of looked through him like the way that she does, where she's just kind of looking around like she doesn't see him. And then the security kind of pushed him away and he was like. And normally people have a quick chat with us, not our Kim. She just kept on going. And I was like, that's even more evidence that you're not going out with Lewis Hampton. If you were, you'd understand the situation.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

You're just there to throw your weight around. But it made me laugh at Martin because I was like, that's. I'd say Martin was kind of humbled by that now, you know, I don't

[Joe]

think he does get humbled.

[Joanna]

Someone. Just because someone walks past you, like, imagine Hillary Clinton walked out the path there and I was like, Hillary.

[Joe]

Hillary Clinton is not like, all dressed up for. For a grid walk at the Formula One. If you're going to do the grid walk, you've got to like, God, I'd be thrilled if Martin Brundle came up to talk to me.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Martin Brundle would literally push me to the side. Did you see as well?

[Joanna]

Like, what would she even say to him?

[Joe]

I don't think she would know what team Lewis Hamilton's on.

[Joanna]

Yeah, of course. She'd be like, go, Reds,

[Joe]

go red.

[Joanna]

He scored a goal. I'm. Listen, I'm taking the picture.

[Joe]

I. I love her, but remember, I interviewed her. Like, she's very specific about how she's interviewed and how she's looked at. So, like, she likes to face on and, like, maybe Martin was going a bit to the side and she's gonna reach that stage in her career where she. But. But if they were together and if they spent a lot of time together, surely Lewis knowing she's coming to the Grand Prix would be like, by the way, you're gonna. There's a fellow called Martin Brundle. You should probably have a chat to him where everyone else. Everyone will think you're a dick.

[Joanna]

Yeah, I know. No, no, they don't. This is all. It's Faux News. Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm so glad you think.

[Joanna]

Oh, yeah. It's absolute. It's up there. Do you know what? It's up there. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Taylor Swift held in hands with Harry Styles back in the day, when I say it was like two cats holding hands, the. And they were filled. They were popped. Walking around Some park. And I was like, oh, here, Come on. Like, there was just no sexual chemistry. She got lover. This was back before she kind of had a stylist. And she was wearing, like, you know, kind of like, flat and a little bag across her front and kind of a long gray coat. And he was wearing. Back when he. Before he kind of popped. And he was wearing his little check shirt, and they were holding hands, kind of looking away from each other. Like, it was just.

[Joe]

Just.

[Joanna]

It was just so obvious.

[Joe]

I think, though, if you were going out with Harry Styles, you kind of would be embarrassed all the time because he's such a. She'd be like, hello.

[Joanna]

No, this was like, back before they. He hadn't really. There was no. He wasn't like, Harry Styles. Sorry, I need to address.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

My spelling bee. Shame.

[Joe]

Oh, did you see the video? It was better than. It was actually better than I expected.

[Cat]

Better even than the way that you told it.

[Joe]

And I was actually gonna revote it. And I thought, I won't do that to her. She might get offended.

[Cat]

It was remarkable.

[Joanna]

The spelling bee. So this I.

[Joe]

Or I. Or to.

[Cat]

To refresh.

[Joanna]

Sorry. I told the story of the podcast. When I was in Australia, I did a TV show called Spelling Bee with Guy Montgomery. And I had said in the podcast that I. I was like. I found it hard. I was a bit. Bit shocked. And I couldn't spell caterpillar. And I was.

[Joe]

There's a couple of things you couldn't smell.

[Joanna]

But they have now shared the video with the caption, can the Irish spell? So leaving the whole national spelling ability

[Joe]

dragged us all down with you.

[Joanna]

Yeah. On me. So of course the comments are popping off, being like, she's nothing to do with us. Blah, blah, blah. Of course. Yeah.

[Joe]

I haven't looked at the comments.

[Joanna]

Yeah, absolutely rinsed. I'm like, I'm not in charge of the entire nation's spelling abilities.

[Joe]

I'm so glad that she. I'm glad it's not me. For some, for once, they're not saying mean things about me. It's her. She is. She's dragging us down, everyone.

[Joanna]

So I was like, do you not, like, read question mark? Yes, I do read. I do read. But nothing I've read of late. Had had a caterpillar as a main character. So I didn't. I haven't seen that word written down in a very long time. And the wolf thing, they rough. They were like, what sound does a dog make? Spell rough. And I was completely thrown because I. I don't. We don't use that word rough for dogs. Rough to me is. Or O U G H. Yeah. So I was like, I think you mean woof. And of course, I got that wrong as well.

[Joe]

Much to the uff.

[Joanna]

Or uff. Yeah. But again, like, what books am I reading with the word rough? That's a child's book.

[Joe]

Do you know what, Ann? Caterpillar is a child's book. So I actually.

[Joanna]

Exactly.

[Joe]

That was unfair.

[Joanna]

And I hadn't had the garden at that stage, so I wasn't familiar with caterpillars again. Now, of course, I have two dates, too.

[Joe]

I would sue them.

[Joanna]

Do you reckon? I think I feel it's defamation.

[Joe]

Yeah. I think you get a few Bob.

[Joanna]

Surely Kanjuam McNally spell would be a fairer caption than Can Irish people spell?

[Joe]

It was just. It was more this. It was more the smoke, the smokedness at the start.

[Cat]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, we. We have the same language. Okay.

[Joanna]

I actually have a degree in English guy. Anyway, I. I just. The captions a lot and I do feel they could maybe tone it down.

[Joe]

There's something that I was going to say to you that I must. I'm surprised I'm bringing it up, but I was so disgusted by it. Bonnie Blue and her golden baby shower.

[Joanna]

Do you know what? I was actually. Last night, I was writing my little notes. I said, you know what? No, I'm actually not gonna give her the time.

[Joe]

I actually said. I said, joanna, love that. Now I will. I will have a little note.

[Joanna]

I'm actually sick of her. I'm not gonna give her the time. I was like, I'm not gonna give her the time of day, but go on.

[Joe]

Well, my baby showers on Saturday and I just. I'm a bit concerned that people are going to be disappointed.

[Joanna]

Are you going to reveal a plastic bump?

[Joe]

Well, nobody's gonna piss on me.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Unless it's myself.

[Joanna]

Now, hasn't she since admitted it's all a fake pregnancy?

[Joe]

There was a fake pregnancy before this pregnancy, but I think this pregnancy is actually a real pregnancy.

[Joanna]

I think this one is fake as well. Joe, can you fact check us there, please? Yep.

[Joe]

Jesus Christ, it's exhausting.

[Joanna]

She loves the pure stone. She's actually. I've just put her down to being sociopathic.

[Joe]

That's not. Well, no, she's not.

[Joanna]

Well, no, I think she's perfectly.

[Joe]

Well, I don't think. I think she's perfectly fair to call her sociopathic because sociopaths are extremely intelligent. Like CEOs, like. No, she's not. I'm not. She's not. She's not.

[Joanna]

Sociopath. No, you're thinking of.

[Joe]

I'm psychopath.

[Joanna]

Psychopaths, yeah. Sociopaths are just. Just people who just don't have a lot of empathy for stuff. I mean, in fairness, they are the freer people. If you weren't burdened by how other people thought of you or cared, you can.

[Joe]

I'd rather be a psychopath than a sociopath.

[Joanna]

Really?

[Joe]

Psychopaths are really intelligent. Spenny has a show coming out about psychopathy. Yeah, I mean, it's like. It's kind of fascinating to learn about.

[Joanna]

I wouldn't be thrilled if you were a psychopath.

[Joe]

Well, I know people who are psychopaths

[Joanna]

that are really like, sound.

[Joe]

I really admire them. Yeah. Not all psychopaths are murderers. A lot of murderers are not psychopaths.

[Joanna]

No, no, I know, but.

[Joe]

No, she's. Did you find out, Joe?

[Joanna]

I'm gonna ask Chachi BT Chachi BT Hello. Is Bonnie Blue's new pregnancy real or fake? Thank you. At the moment, nobody outside Bonnie Blue and her medical team can independently verify whether she's genuinely pregnant. She has a history of pregnancy publicity stones, including a previous fake pregnancy claim that she later said she. More recently, she's continued to insist that she's actually pregnant and has been posting photos and videos that some media outlets say appear consistent with the real pregnancy. Now, I will say she does actually look like. As in she looks pregnant. She looks kind of like she's got fuller in her face and stuff, you know, like. Yeah, Sorry, Bonnie, if that's a mean thing to say. I'm just trying to. Trying to figure out if you're pregnant or not.

[Joe]

But also, like, do I look fuller in the face?

[Joanna]

No.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Cat]

Good save.

[Joanna]

Christ. I had to open the double doors to get you in.

[Joe]

Daddy Pig. Oink.

[Joanna]

You're using my facial spray. That was full when you came in. Two squirts. It's empty. That's a bigger head. That was full. That was up to there.

[Joe]

Okay. Will we end on our embalmer big time.

[Joanna]

I'd love to.

[Joe]

Okay. So we basically were talking about embalming and how it could it make you less aged. And we and a bomber got in touch over the last couple of weeks and we have been emailing her back and forth about some embalming bits and bobs. Yeah, she has emailed us back.

[Joanna]

I'm so excited now.

[Joe]

I asked her a weird question. It might be too dark to put in the pod, but I was interested in it. Her name is Called Briden Music. And she is. She's a folk artist. She's based in Sligo, and she's also an embalmer. So here's some of the questions. Do people actually get still getting bombed in 2026? The majority of people in Ireland are embalmed. It's not an exclusive thing, but we refer to it as modern embalming, as we're not embalming like the Egyptians used to, which was to fully preserve the body we embalmed for temporary preservation. I think I'd like to be fully embalmed.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Like the Egyptians. That makes me less scared of death, I think, because then I know I'm not just gonna rot.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

How. How do some people last longer or look better than others? Depends on what stage of decay they're at when they begin embalming, and also how concentrated the solution is.

[Joanna]

We should start bombing and bombing you now.

[Joe]

Why me? Why do I have to die first?

[Joanna]

Well, it just. Because if we get you now in the way that you are now, then you'll look better for longer and I'll

[Joe]

be ready to be laid out.

[Joanna]

Exactly.

[Joe]

Okay, here is the. Do you remember I was talking about Amber loving kissing dead people?

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So once you're embalmed and hygienically treated, you are totally free from any diseases. You are totally disinfected. The only problem which we saw during COVID is that your body then becomes a surface area where people touch and kiss. And if they have the virus that. So, like, let's say someone kisses you and your dad and they have the cold sore, and then someone else kisses you when you're dead, they might pick up the cold sore from your skin from the other person.

[Joanna]

I've never had a culture in my life. I do.

[Joe]

I know. No, you might. In death. You might in death. She said that she likes when we talk about death as well. So there you go.

[Joanna]

I want to know about, like, the weirdest, weirdest thing. She's embalmed. I want to know.

[Cat]

She did say she's open to more questions.

[Joanna]

Oh, grass. Okay, fine, fine.

[Cat]

Two way. I'll give her a ring now.

[Joanna]

Yeah, I'll give her a ring. Our weekly embalming section. Our weekly section on death wouldn't be too bad, you know?

[Joe]

Do you know what I think?

[Cat]

The more you talk about fiance is a forensic pathologist. She finds out how people died.

[Joe]

Sorry. Do you know.

[Joanna]

Sorry. So was the woman who married that murderer.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

And that Netflix, wasn't she?

[Joe]

Did you know Alan from RTE is a pathologist. He studied pathology for seven years.

[Joanna]

No, I didn't know that.

[Joe]

Yeah. I find that fascinating that people have just had these other lives. Pathology. I don't. I just. I don't love death.

[Joanna]

Well, I. I was a carer in an Alzheimer's. Were you? I've had an. I've had.

[Joe]

Yeah. Did you ever work in pure. I think you'd be good at this.

[Joanna]

Then I went into. And then I went into. Before. And then I worked as a publicist.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't feel like I speak about my building site work enough. Will we do our recommendations?

[Joanna]

Yeah, let's do our wrecks.

[Joe]

Okay, you go first.

[Joanna]

So there's a. I now I'm not saying this and I suppose I don't know why I have to say this. I knew this story before I'd listen to a podcast on it. There's a podcast called Believe in Magic that I think the BBC sounds did. But now Mother of All Cons, they've turned it into a documentary called Mother of All Cons on the BBC player which I know is annoying because you can't get it in Ireland, but if you have a vpn. Is it a vpn?

[Joe]

A vpn, yep.

[Joanna]

It's well worth a watch. It's about. It's one of my favorite topics which is women pretending they have cancer.

[Joe]

Okay. My. My recommendation is from an author called Charlotte Leonard. Her book is on pre order. She. I gave a quote for it because she asked me to read it and I loved it and I don't always give people quotes but it was such a brilliant book. It's called One Little Lie and her Instagram is Charlotte Leonard and you can pre order it on there but it's out in the next three weeks and it's very good, I have to say.

[Joanna]

Right.

[Joe]

I really enjoyed it.

[Joanna]

Also, if people watch Mother of All Cons, please email in and tell me what you think. It is nuts. It is a journey. It is a roly poly roller coaster.

[Joe]

Well, thank you everyone for listening. I just don't trust you on.

[Joanna]

I just don't trust anyone anymore.

[Joe]

Oh, I never did. Yeah, Only people that I know for a long time.

[Joanna]

That's it. Hammersmith Apollo on sale now December 16th.

[Joe]

That was a great plug there.

[Joanna]

Thank you.

[Joe]

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